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I'm Jason Hartwood, and with me again is
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Jacob Litten. Today we are talking about
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the Lion Schedule. Alright
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Jacob, I'm going to let you have the floor on how you want to start
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this.
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I'm amped for this one, man. Looking over the
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schedule. I wish the season was starting right now.
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It's kind of what happens. Uh, this is all we have in the off
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season. You got the draft, the schedule comes
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out, all the what ifs until training
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camp. What is your first impression?
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What do you think of the schedule when you first look at it?
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My first impression is, are the Lions
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ready for primetime? And I don't mean that
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as, are they ready to play well. I mean it
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as, we're playing a lot
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of nationally televised games.
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It's weird. Just two years ago, we were
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looking at all one o'clock games. So,
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now we only have, what, four?
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Well deserved change. looking at it
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though, we have the 11th
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toughest schedule, which we knew about that
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ahead of time. We knew going in who we were
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going to play. The way that everything laid out,
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the way the NFL laid it out, I
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really think they did us a favor this year. And
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you know, most of the time we don't really get those
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favors. They did us a solid for the most
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part. They have a list of
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the games by miles traveled, and
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we are actually towards the bottom of that list.
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So the difference between the number one team
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and the number 32 team is something like 20,
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000 mile difference.
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Wow.
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that's huge
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Does that include, like, international games?
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yes. We don't have any international games.
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The furthest away I think we have to go is the 49
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ERs, and that's not till the end of the season. There's only three
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games outdoors.
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yeah, I looked at it, it was like 14 of the first
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15 are indoors,
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and I think that's good for golf. I
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think he plays better indoors, so
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I like that.
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Even when you look at the Thursday games though, so
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we play the Thursday games back to back and
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our game before the Thanksgiving game
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is, uh, against the Indianapolis colt. So
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that's not a very far drive. We're not getting on a
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plane too far away or anything playing on a short
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week. I'm excited about the schedule. I
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think that we can, you know, obviously, regardless
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of where we're at, I feel like we can do really good this year.
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But after looking at the schedule, I feel great about it.
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Yeah, I looked at the schedule, and of course
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you don't like to see the early week bye.
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It's like one of the first things I think you look
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at either is where are my
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primetime games, or, where is
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my bye. When you mention those
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Thursday night games, that
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kind of gives us a little late bye, because,
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after the second Thursday
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game. The week after Thanksgiving, play
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the Packers, then we have 10 days off.
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It's not a full bye week, take
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it when you can get it. I mean, I'm glad
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that they gave the Lions that Thursday
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after Thanksgiving, if they're going to give them another
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Thursday game. So they're not playing two
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short weeks in there. So
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right. That's what I'm saying. They're doing us favors.
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Yeah, well,
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Finally, we just get the,
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we get the scraps every year. Throw
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us wherever they can. One o'clock, one o'clock, one
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o'clock. No prime time games. And,
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you know, Flip the switch.
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Finally getting the recognition we deserve.
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Yeah, well, when you get to the NFC
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Championship game, and you
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only add to your team, I mean, we've
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lost a couple players, but you've added
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to your team pretty substantially., it's
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looking good. The NFL, they schedule for around
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a lot of things, you know, Taylor Swift concerts or whatever,
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so.
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Yeah.
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What do you think is like the toughest stretch
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in this schedule that you see?
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Well, you know, you look at that 49ers
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game, it's gonna be a difficult game. And then when
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you see the game surrounding it, I feel like the toughest
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stretch is gonna be the final couple weeks
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of the season. If you look at the last five
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games that we play, three of them
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are going to be divisional games and
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it's going to be Green Bay. We've got the
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Chicago game finished out against the Vikings.
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In between that we play the bills and the
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Niners. Those are all going to be
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tough games. They're all back to back. Which,
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you know, speaks to what you said earlier about the early bye week,
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we don't have a bye, we don't have a break before that's coming
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up. Some guys are gonna be hurt, it's
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a long season, there's
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gonna be playoff implications, obviously
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it depends on how the season's going at that point,
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but right now when you're looking at it, those are all
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huge games.
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They've really backloaded our division schedule,
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and our division's going to be tougher
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this year, and that's what I saw,
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I was like, oh man, four of the last six
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are in the division, and
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The games that they gave us that are non divisional
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games are not gimme games.
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Um, I mean, I think the bills are going to
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probably not going to be as good as
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last year. They took quite a
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few losses out of their team, Stefan Diggs
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being the biggest, they lost Gabe Davis
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too. It's going to be interesting to see what their
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offense, is like, you could have
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Josh Allen making even more mistakes.
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Kind of curious to see how that shakes out,
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but then you got that 49ers matchup.
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So that's in the middle there. So you're
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hoping that the division is, you know,
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we're hoping we got it mostly lined
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up by then because it's going to be a tough little stretch
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there.
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Uh, that's hard to do when most of your
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divisional games are that late though
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Yeah, I agree. I agree.
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I think another tough stretch is,
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week six through ten. You got five five
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games during that stretch, four of them are
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on the road. You got at Cowboys
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at the Vikings. So that's your first divisional
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game. You got the Titans in the middle.
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Um, probably the easiest home game
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on the schedule. Then I'm expecting
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at least out the gate here, then, you're
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at Packers at Texans.
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So, I mean, that's, that's a tough stretch too.
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When you go four to five weeks on the road in
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the NFL, It's going to be something that the boys are going to
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have to fight through
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Right.
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the Lions play well on the road though. They, they
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played well on the road last year.
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The fans travel real well.
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like making them have home games, it's going
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to be hard at the Cowboys
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to, to have a home game cause their Cowboys
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fans always come out. Divisional
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games, Vikings, I don't think that we had
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as many show out out there Packers
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game. We pretty much own that stadium last
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Right. Right. We showed out for Green Bay,
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not really in Minnesota.
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so we'll see, if the fans are still going
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to be out traveling, you know, that'll be interesting
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to see how that goes. It was amazing. What
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the fans said last year, uh,
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you know, home and away, but especially the
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way it was really noticeable. And
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when you can hear let's go lions, chance
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and NFL stadium on the road,
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that's pretty special.
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Right. You'd like to hear
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Yeah, for sure.
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know, the Vikings might have a different quarterback that week
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as well.
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what I was thinking, too. with the Vikings
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and the Bears, we got them late,
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and I would have much rather had them early. Or
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at least one of their games early with their rookie
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quarterbacks. Now, I don't know about J. J. McCarthy.
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I don't know when, you know, it's much more likely
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he's going to be in towards the end of the season than
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the beginning of the season, at least in my opinion.
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Caleb Williams is going to start out the gate. I mean, he's a
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starting quarterback already. J. J. McCarthy,
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I, I'm not convinced that he's going to
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be the quarterback straight out the gate. I think
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that they're Darnold, and
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then depending on how their season
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lines up,
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Right. Depends on how it's shaken out.
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the more losses rack up. The quick air
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J. J. 's gonna be out there it's gonna be hard
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to root against J. J. McCarthy.
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Yeah. Right. I know. One of those things,
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you want him to do well, but you want the team
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to not do well. He
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can throw for 500 yards a game, just let
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the Vikings lose. Now, once that Viking's uniform's
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on, you gotta, you gotta forget about the Michigan
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yeah, I know we, we root for Ohio
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State players like Taylor Decker when
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they got the Lions jersey on. We forget about that
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and, it goes the other way too, you get a Michigan
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man and another, jersey
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the love's still there, we just don't want you
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to win the game.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's right. No injuries.
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You can play well, that's fine, just, you know,
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as long as we come out on top.
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So is there anything else that you think is a tough stretch
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or, um,
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Not really, you know, those are the ones that jump
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out to me.
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yeah.
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I agree with what you said, you know, you got the Cowboys game,
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you're playing at Houston,
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uh, you know, you may
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have some easier games in between
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on paper right now, um,
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but you know, even like you said about the Vikings, we don't
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know, that could be, Darnold
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could be on his last breath of air, he might
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need to come out with a big game to keep the starting job, we
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don't know, maybe he's already lost it by that
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point,
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Yeah. Those divisional games right there and that
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stretch are on the road. And I don't care
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who's the starting quarterback. I don't care what's
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going on. Those are just tough games.
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Divisional games are always you know the opponent
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so well, and you know, you're
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playing them, at least two times a year, unless
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you get them in the playoffs or something like that, say,
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JJ, you know, that might be his
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first start, let's say, because, Sam Darnold's
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not working out, or whatever, you have very
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little tape, or know what, you know, Kevin
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O'Connell's gonna do with JJ,
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you don't know what, they're gonna, they're gonna let
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him run, are they gonna do some RPO
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stuff, are they just gonna let him rip it
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to, cause, I mean, JJ's got a, a
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heck of an arm, we saw it at Michigan, and,
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he could, he can gun it
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didn't get to unleash it a whole lot, but it's, it's
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there,
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it's there, but, and, honestly,
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you got amazing wide receivers
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in Minnesota, you know, Justin
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Jefferson topping the list,
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right, great spot for Jada to be in.
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Once again, we want you to lose. I
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want you, I want you to win rookie of the year,
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but I want you to lose,
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alright, has laid
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it down
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get a draft pick in the middle of
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the round. So it's not even that good for next year.
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What was your biggest surprise with the schedule?
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I think going into it, I
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really thought the lions Cowboys
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was going to be a primetime game. They
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made it America's
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game of the week or whatever, you know, it's a four
10:04
25 game, but
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you know, you look at it after what happened last year,
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controversial ending, Two really
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good teams. They show out really well. The ratings
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numbers do good when we're on TV, it'd be the
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battle of America's teams. You
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know, they're calling the lions, America's new team, the Cowboys,
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America's old team. I really
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thought that that was going to be a primetime game,
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Yeah, I was kind of surprised about that too.
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I'm wondering if one of the networks just had, you
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know, wouldn't give up the game. I don't know how much
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say they have on that,
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but I fully expected
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that to be at least a Sunday night football
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game. It could have been a Monday night
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right? it. just seems like it
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was built for primetime.
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Yeah, I don't know. Or maybe the NFL just didn't
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want that to showcase that just so that all that
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stuff from last year got brought
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You had their mistake. They don't want to be reminded.
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So, I would like to talk about my biggest surprise. I
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was actually, surprised that we're starting out
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with the two of the playoff games back to back.
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Especially the Stafford game.
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I thought they would give a little more time for that to breathe,
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but apparently Danfall wants to bring that storyline
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right back up. Um, I don't know if you know
11:08
this or not, but Stafford used to be with the Lions
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and Goff used to be with the Rams.
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Oh No, that makes sense
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now
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I just found that out late last year when we
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hit the playoffs, you know? No, seriously, they're
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gonna wanna hit that story again. I just
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don't think it's gonna hit as well. Just 'cause it,
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was at the end of last season in the playoffs,
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so it's kind of interesting that they threw that right
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out. I, I understand the
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intrigue in that game. I just thought if they're
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gonna put it on Sunday night football, I thought that they might put
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it a little bit. Later in the year and
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let the, that story breathe
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a little bit, and then following it up with the Bucks
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game. We played the Rams and then
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the Bucs in the playoffs. It's interesting. We're playing them
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one and two right away.
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Might as well put the 49ers third and just
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relive it,
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they could have, done that right. And that would have been really
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weird. I was also kind of surprised that they
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waited till week 17 to put the 49ers.
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I would think they'd want that a little bit earlier, but maybe
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they're counting on, Lions and
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the 49ers being a top two team, and maybe we're fighting
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for the one seed or, you know,
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one or two seed, in that game. Yeah,
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I just thought that they might put it a little bit earlier,
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because say one of us is out, say some
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quarterback for either team gets injured,
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that game may not hit as well. late in the
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That didn't stop them from scheduling Aaron Rodgers
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with six primetime games.
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Do you think he'll make four plays this year or do
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you think he'll get up to five?
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How hilarious would it be if on the fifth
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play, it's the other league?
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Oh my God. I don't want to see anybody
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that I ever wish, right, right now, and I
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mean,
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injuries on anybody,
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being ironic, wouldn't it be just,
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it would be crazy. And then Mike North who writes
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a schedule would be saying a lot of expletives
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to himself. Like we did it again. We've
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just
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right?
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again. At least, um,
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for Jets fans, they won't have to see Zach
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Wilson in there.
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Yeah, right. I'm sure they're happy with
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Yeah, I'm sure they are. What was
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worse, seeing Aaron Rodgers go down or knowing that
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we gotta go right back to Zach Wilson.
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That probably honestly made it a little worse. They're
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like, oh No, we suck again.
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Oh, I'm sure it was. So is there
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any other surprises that you saw on the schedule
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or something that just like was a
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little head rattling?
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I was kind of hoping we would get to
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see Caleb Williams in the barriers week one.
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I thought that would have been a good opening game,
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Mm hmm. Yeah, that could have been Sunday Night Football.
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Caleb Williams on his first game.
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Number one, draft pick and everything,
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Lions have had bad luck with, you know,
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rookie quarterbacks in Week 1. Not since
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the Dan Campbell era, but I'm just remember Sam
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Darnold.
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Monday Night Football.
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That was Matt Patricia's first game, I believe.
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a sign of things to
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Sign of things to come. And I remember Matt
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Ryan's first game was against the
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Lions, and he threw a touchdown
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pass on, I don't know if it was the first
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play, but it was very early in the drive. It
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was like a 50 yard play and it
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was like the beginning of the season and, you know,
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at that time you're so full of hope, the
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Lions, and then it just like
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gets dashed right away.
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then. It was false hope. Now we have legitimate
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hope.
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Now I know the difference. I didn't know the difference back
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then. I just knew. I was like, we're starting
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out zero and zero. We're, this is going to be the year.
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This is what a real football team
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feels like. I don't think it's hope. It's reality
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that, you know, we're a good team.
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I think we've gotten better than last year
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and we made to the NFC championship last
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year. It doesn't mean that, you know, you're
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going to get to the super bowl. Just cause you got better,
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but definitely doesn't hurt.
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right.
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I'll be a Debbie Downer here on the schedule.
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Looking at all the teams that we face what is
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the team that you think that we're going to lose
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to that should be a win?
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I had to think about that really hard because obviously,
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you know, as a Lions fan, you're like, we could win this game.
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We could win this game. You know, I go through down here,
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you know, the one that kind of jumped out to
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me is at Indianapolis
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in November. And here's
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why. The Sunday game
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we're at Indy, then we have a short
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week, then we come home Thanksgiving
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against the bears. I feel like, especially
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late in the season, on top of just the
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mobile quarterback thing, if Anthony Richardson,
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he might be having a really good season at that point. Mobile
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quarterbacks give us, uh, you know, fits
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in the past. Hopefully we've alleviated
15:20
that by then, but it's a short
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week. It's one of those things. Some
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guys are going to be banged up. They're not going to be a hundred
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percent. Maybe we're looking forward
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to the bears. We're looking at the divisional game. You
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know, some guys might not get as many snaps as
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they usually do, or they might just not play
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at all just to play it safe. Let's set them out
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this one. That's the one that I'm looking
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at. We, we should beat the Colts
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full strength. We play the Colts week one. I think
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we beat them nine times out of 10 without
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issue late in the season with the other
15:49
factors. That's the one that I'm thinking maybe
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they can pull an upset there.
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Just to touch on the Anthony Richardson
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thing, we're going to see him and
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we're going to see CJ Stroud, uh,
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next year. We're going to see a lot of young
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quarterbacks, because not only that, then in our
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division, you know, possibly seeing JJ
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and definitely seeing Caleb Williams. Beyond
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just like watching for football be interesting,
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just as an NFL fan, just
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to see those guys. Depends if
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Anthony Richardson can make it that far. I mean, he hasn't
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even finished a full game. He
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hasn't played a full complete game in the NFL yet.
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So, you know, he's got to prove that
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he can, you know, make
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it through injury wise.
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right. Well, and it's later in the season. He could be fully
16:31
healed and ready to go, or, you know, he could
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already be aggravated and car to be out again.
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You can have all the talent in the world, the old
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adage, you know, the best ability is
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availability. It doesn't matter how talented
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you are if you're not playing. we'll see how that goes.
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My loss that should be a win
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is like very early, week three,
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Arizona. We're going to be playing two.
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Playoff teams right away.
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We're going to have to travel, over to the West coast,
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Kyler, Murray, mobile quarterback
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everyone's says, Oh, lions struggle
17:01
with that. Everyone struggles with the mobile quarterback.
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That's why teams want mobile quarterbacks.
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I just feel like depending on
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what Marvin Harrison, you know, how their connection
17:10
with Kyler Murray is, just that first
17:13
road game, you've got to go on the West
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Coast. You've just had two playoff
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teams. It could be
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just a recipe for disaster and
17:21
early on. Um, But
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I fully expect Dan Campbell to have
17:26
his boys ready, but sometimes those games
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just happen. So that's, that's the one that
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I'm looking at and I'm like, yeah, they
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should win this game. I look at all the games,
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I'm like, yeah, we should win, you know,
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all
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That's the problem as a Lions fan, especially when the team's
17:41
good. You look at every game and it's like every game is winnable.
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Yeah, I mean, it's just feel like if you're a Chiefs
17:46
fan, you got Patrick Mahomes. Every
17:48
game, we should win every game because we have Patrick
17:50
Mahomes. NFL is a tough league. Any
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team can beat any team and it happens all the time.
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But, you know, my lines
17:57
should win, like you said, 9 times out of 10 they
17:59
should beat this Arizona Cardinals team. It'll
18:01
be interesting. It just depends on how
18:03
Kyler's playing. he put down
18:05
the controller long enough to work with Marvin.
18:08
Yeah. Week three, they're probably already gonna be
18:10
getting in their flow right at least after
18:12
that one, too, you got the long, a little bit
18:14
of a longer break, cause then, uh, you follow up
18:16
that game Monday night against the Seahawks,
18:18
and then that leads right into the bye
18:20
Yeah, that is nice that
18:22
you get the buy after the Monday night game,
18:25
so that you get a, get
18:27
a break. So you don't have that short week. So you've got
18:29
Right.
18:30
week and then into the short week and I'm
18:31
we only have the one short break, just that
18:34
Indy, to Chicago.
18:35
So now we're going to hit the big topic. This
18:37
is what I'm really looking forward to talking about. We're going to talk
18:39
about our top five games that we're looking forward
18:41
to this season. Jacob and I have not
18:44
shared with each other
18:46
what our lists are. We're going to go from five
18:48
down to one. We're just going to talk about
18:50
the games and we'll just kind of go all the way down to one.
18:52
Do you want to start or do you want me to start Jacob?
18:54
You can go ahead first. I have a feeling
18:56
that we, we may have the same five
18:58
games on this list. Maybe in some sort of variation.
19:01
I think we probably, at least
19:03
three of these five are gonna be the same.
19:05
so?
19:05
there's no way the number one game is not the same for both
19:07
of us.
19:09
have a feeling about that, but we haven't talked, so that'd
19:11
be
19:11
No, I don't know.
19:13
I put the Jaguars game number one, am
19:15
I am I right? Am I in the ballpark?
19:17
I bet you did. They didn't make top 10.
19:19
did they make the top 17 though? Okay.
19:22
somewhere, somewhere near the
19:23
Okay. I was just making sure preseason game
19:25
didn't jump it. I didn't know we are playing the
19:27
chiefs in preseason. So,
19:29
Yeah, right.
19:31
so number five for me,
19:33
I have the bears on Thanksgiving, week 13.
19:36
the same number five.
19:36
Do you? All right, cool.
19:38
swear.
19:39
that will be a good
19:41
game and I'm hoping we can break our streak of
19:43
losing on Thanksgiving day. Especially
19:45
it's a division game. Last year was our. Tough
19:48
pill to swallow losing to the Packers again,
19:51
we're in a national audience. We want to prove
19:54
ourselves. We want our respect The quickest
19:56
way to get a respect is to win on national
19:59
TV when you're the only game
20:01
in the nation when a lot of the nation's watching you
20:03
because you're the first game on Thanksgiving so
20:05
I I Looking forward to
20:07
see, the Bears. I fully expect
20:10
them to be,, better this year. I
20:12
mean, their receiving court is,
20:15
it could be number one in the league,
20:17
really, to be honest with you. I, uh,
20:20
you know, you have the rookie passer thrown
20:22
to them. So who knows? Personally,
20:24
Caleb Williams is, not one of my favorites.
20:27
The games that I watched him play wasn't
20:30
overly impressed with him. The fact that the Bears
20:32
picked him is automatically a curse
20:34
for any quarterback. Uh, they
20:36
still haven't had a 4, 000 yard passer in
20:39
the history of their franchise.
20:42
So, you know, that doesn't bode well. So,
20:44
I'm, I'm looking forward to seeing Caleb Williams on,
20:46
Thanksgiving Day. hopefully we're
20:49
enjoying our turkey with a lion's win.
20:50
That's a big storyline for that
20:52
too. Cause that's our first we're welcoming Caleb
20:55
Williams, the number one traffic to Detroit,
20:57
and he's got to play on Thanksgiving, which is historically,
21:00
you know, that crowd gets, it gets crazy every
21:02
week, but on Thanksgiving, especially they're,
21:05
they're hungry for a win. It is deeper
21:07
into the season, obviously. At that point,
21:09
he's either still going to have a lot to prove, or
21:11
they're going to have a playoff spot on the line. So
21:13
he's got to play well that game. That's
21:15
a huge game for the Bears, which makes it a huge game
21:18
for us. They think they have a quick turnaround,
21:20
and they think they can contend for the division.
21:22
We need to show them that they can't, and that it's
21:24
still ours.
21:25
Yup.
21:26
Side note, Swift, uh, you know, DeAndre Swift
21:29
is now in Chicago. He
21:31
is the seventh highest paid running back. So
21:34
it would be very nice, you know, assuming
21:36
that he actually isn't injured and he's going to play that
21:38
far into the season. Uh, it would be nice
21:41
to shut him down and, uh, let
21:43
DeMo score a couple more touchdowns on the Bears.
21:47
yeah, my quick prediction, uh,
21:49
the end of the game, Caleb Williams drives
21:51
him down, throws it to DeAndre Swift in the
21:53
corner of the end zone, and he drops
21:56
it. Oh, wait, we already saw
21:57
Yeah, we've seen that
21:58
Yeah, we've seen that happen, and it was,
22:01
you know,
22:02
at Ford Field
22:02
It did. It was right at Ford Field,
22:05
and it was Yeah, that
22:07
was terrible. If you don't
22:09
know what I'm referencing, it's DeAndre Swift's
22:11
first game of the Lions, week one, playing
22:13
the Bears. Stafford finds him
22:16
wide open, like, it's probably less
22:18
than 10 seconds in the game or whatever. We
22:20
have one more play after that because he just
22:22
dropped it. I
22:24
started with number five, I'm gonna let you start with
22:26
first on number four.
22:28
Uh, so yeah, my number four, the next one I have,
22:30
uh, on my list, I'm looking forward to is
22:32
going to be the home game against the Seahawks on
22:34
Monday night football.
22:35
Alright.
22:37
primetime, uh, early on in the season,
22:40
especially after last year, you
22:42
know, we were riding the high from the chiefs win
22:44
and really felt like we
22:47
were going to win that game going into it.
22:49
There was a pick six late in the game. We ended
22:51
up going into overtime and we
22:53
kicked it to them in overtime. We never even got the ball back. Right.
22:56
no, they,
22:56
think we even got to drive in overtime. We got it in the
22:59
Gino took them right down, and they, it wasn't even
23:01
like, really even a, With
23:03
Lions defense did not put up a fight
23:06
in that last drive, which was totally different
23:08
than like the last Half
23:10
of the fourth quarter in that game
23:12
that Lions defense finally took over.
23:14
Ancelone sacked, Smith I think down
23:16
around the one but then the Lions came back
23:18
and In really weird fashion. They just
23:21
played it really conservatively and Just played
23:23
for the field goal essentially to tie it up to go
23:25
to overtime like you said that was a deflating
23:27
game I was at that game
23:29
up until the Rams game that was the loudest,
23:32
that I had ever heard Ford Field.
23:34
It was so loud in there. Everyone was
23:36
so ready because, like I said, we had just
23:39
beaten Chiefs Week 1. The previous
23:41
year's champion. It was the first home game.
23:43
Anticipation was probably all time high
23:45
at that
23:46
Oh, it was, it was awesome. And then
23:48
people weren't wearing ski masks because the CJGJ
23:51
said the thing about the villains.
23:52
Look forward to that game because they,
23:55
they've really had our number. Looking
23:57
back on it, we haven't beat the Seahawks since 2012.
24:01
That's a long time. And there's been, you know, a
24:03
lot of games in between that time too. Um,
24:06
seem to play them every year now. Um,
24:09
right. We had a close loss. Uh, well,
24:11
you know, last year we had the overtime loss the year before that
24:13
was really high scoring
24:14
Yeah.
24:15
but we lost that one too,
24:16
That was just going back and forth. That was a
24:18
track meet. That was crazy.
24:20
right now. We just, you know, it seems
24:22
like we always, uh, come out on the other end
24:24
of that, on the wrong side
24:26
of it. You know, we just don't, don't do
24:28
enough to get the job done. So I'm looking forward to that one.
24:31
I w I want to put them away this year.
24:33
So I'm gonna go to my number four. mY
24:35
number four is different this time. It's
24:37
actually the Cowboys, week six.
24:40
Got that revenge game. Definitely the secondary
24:43
is gonna be better. Maybe we can keep CeeDee Lamb
24:45
down. Fully
24:47
expect Aiden Hutchinson to get three sacks
24:49
because he seems to always get three sacks versus
24:51
the Cowboys. I'm ready for it. I'm
24:53
ready to win this game. Just put them down.
24:55
I think they're just gonna come out and just say, you know, we're
24:58
not going to let it go down to the last play of the game this time.
25:00
We're gonna, we're going to go down there and beat you.
25:03
if you had to guess, when's the last time you think we
25:05
beat the Cowboys?
25:06
uh, last time we beat the Cowboys.
25:10
Wow. Um, was
25:13
it the Stafford game? Was
25:15
It was 2013
25:17
Stafford with a sneak at the one
25:19
yard line.
25:20
Yeah.
25:20
was the last time the lions beat the Cowboys. The
25:22
Cowboys was actually, that was my number three. Um,
25:26
but you know, it's. Similar to the
25:28
Seahawks in a sense where it feels like every time we
25:30
play them They have our number and we just can't
25:32
get over that hump The difference
25:34
between them though is that we seem to have a lot of
25:36
close games against the Cowboys and there's
25:38
a lot of You know different
25:40
things that keep happening where we just keep coming
25:42
out on the wrong end of it The pass interference
25:45
thing in the playoffs, uh, you know,
25:48
the controversial call
25:50
last year. I just hope that they
25:52
throw Taylor Decker the ball. I don't care
25:54
if it's for the first down, like on second
25:56
down, just throw him the ball at some point. Get
25:59
the man the ball.
26:00
Do you think that they just fool everybody and
26:02
they just, you know, throw it to Skipper? And be
26:04
like, I, I actually did report this time,
26:06
you know? Heh heh heh. They just,
26:09
Yeah, I don't know who else, man. They could go
26:11
with anybody. Just make everyone eligible. Everyone
26:14
report eligible. Just confuse the, you
26:16
know, the referees. They'll have to give it to
26:18
us this time. They'll just have to, and they'll be like, All
26:20
right.
26:21
they can't make a mistake twice. They'll have to give
26:23
us this one.
26:24
that's right.
26:26
Hey, they owe it to us, right? We get one cheat
26:28
during the Cowboys game.
26:30
yeah. We get one free hall
26:32
pass. I like it. I get
26:34
it. Let's petition it. Roger Goodell, get on the phone.
26:36
We're going to use our one cheat right now. So
26:39
you just told us your number three is, Dale's
26:41
Cowboys. So I'm going to move on to mine.
26:43
mine is the opening game, week one Rams,
26:46
Sunday night football. I'm.
26:48
Jack to start the season on Sunday Night
26:50
Football. That is really
26:52
cool. I mean the only thing that tops that in my opinion
26:55
is Getting that Thursday
26:57
game like we did last year. Hopefully
26:59
next year it's Thursday at home cause we've
27:02
won the Superbowl, it's going to be so loud
27:04
in there. The Jarek off chance are
27:06
going to be going crazy. I
27:08
really feel like it's going to be
27:11
a playoff atmosphere. I'm getting goosebumps
27:13
now just thinking about it. You're having Stafford
27:16
in there. I like Stafford, but just
27:18
like how we can't root for J. J. and we can't
27:20
root for McDonald over in Seahawks,
27:23
can't root for Stafford, um,
27:25
in
27:25
Not when we're playing him.
27:27
when we're playing him and not when we're good.
27:29
Bowl. He won his. No, the
27:31
hell out of the way.
27:32
exactly. It's our time
27:33
That didn't make my list, but only
27:36
really because, you know, the
27:38
playoff game last year, the huge storyline
27:40
when Stafford came to Detroit and everything,
27:42
Goff got his revenge, we moved past them.
27:45
Now, it felt like an afterthought, but
27:47
you're right, it is Sunday night football. It's
27:49
week one. It's a big deal. And of
27:51
course they're going to be talking about Stafford coming back. He's
27:54
gonna want to beat us, especially
27:56
after last year, uh, you know,
27:59
it's right back into it. Like you said, playoff atmosphere,
28:01
really. I mean, you have
28:03
high hopes for the season for both of us. You want the playoffs,
28:05
you, you know, you want the Super Bowl.
28:08
This is how it starts, just like the playoffs last
28:10
year.
28:10
He did not like getting
28:12
booed. Safford did not like getting booed
28:15
last year. I don't know what he thought
28:17
was going to happen coming in on the playoffs.
28:19
We're not going to be throwing out the red carpet for
28:22
him. I mean, I still like
28:24
Safford, but. You're the opposing
28:26
quarterback and we're going for our
28:28
first, you know, playoff win
28:30
in, 30 years. So
28:32
get out of the way. It's Jared
28:34
Goff's team now. I mean, I'm sure that was hard
28:36
for Stafford to hear everybody chanting Jared
28:38
Goff. He wanted that
28:40
and you know, frankly, he deserved that during
28:43
our time
28:44
Right, right. That's the thing
28:46
that's tough is, you know, he did play
28:48
his heart out for a long time and just,
28:50
you know, didn't get the right people around him, wasn't able to
28:52
make it happen. So, you know, he's
28:54
got to have some level of jealousy there to see
28:57
The support for golf and the team and everything.
28:59
Yeah, I don't know if I would even say it's,
29:02
jealousy for me might be the wrong word,
29:04
it's just, I really wish
29:06
this would have happened for me, it's not
29:08
like I'm jealous of Jared Goff, it's just that,
29:10
he wanted it, and he frankly
29:12
deserved it, he played hurt, he was
29:15
a tough you
29:17
know, it, it's just a shame it
29:20
didn't work out for him,
29:22
Right. He
29:24
had the full support of Detroit when he was here.
29:26
yeah,
29:28
But, you know, once you leave, you know,
29:31
well, I mean even when he left he
29:33
had the full support of Detroit It was you
29:35
know, the Detroit Rams. I mean,
29:37
right, right. For the Super Bowl,
29:39
I'm rooting for him I was rooting
29:41
for him at that point, you know,
29:42
100 percent. I don't know anybody
29:44
that wasn't. We
29:45
Yeah, we all wanted to win and
29:47
mine had nothing to do with the fact
29:49
that I placed a hundred dollar bet You On
29:52
the Rams to win the Superbowl the night of
29:55
the Matthew Safford trade and I
29:57
won 1, 200 bucks mine had nothing to do with
29:59
that. No, I, I just knew
30:01
that that was the lion's luck at that time. We're going to trade
30:04
this guy and he's going to go win his Superbowl.
30:06
And it happened.
30:07
That was a safe, a safe bet then.
30:10
the tightest turn since that point, and partly
30:12
because of that trade getting, the capital
30:14
and getting our quarterback.
30:16
Let's move on to, uh, your number two game.
30:20
Uh, my number two game, I actually have the Green
30:22
Bay Packers at home in week 14.
30:24
Okay.
30:25
The last time they came to Detroit,
30:27
it didn't end very well for us. Up until
30:29
the Thanksgiving game last year, it kind of felt
30:32
like the roles were reversed. We spoiled
30:34
Aaron Rodgers last game as a Packer. We
30:37
had beaten him the game before that as well.
30:39
Uh, the season was going
30:41
better for us than it was for them. Actually
30:44
I felt confident going into that Thanksgiving game.
30:46
We had already beaten them earlier. You know how everything
30:49
was going. It's like, I think we've got this
30:51
one in the bag. I think I'm going to have a pretty good
30:53
Thanksgiving.
30:54
Yeah. Not only did we beat them, we
30:56
beat on Thursday Night Football. We, I mean, we pretty
30:58
much crushed
30:59
It, right. It was a great game for us. They
31:02
come into our house on Thanksgiving and it
31:04
just felt like nothing was going right. It
31:06
just, Didn't seem like it was Lions
31:08
football. They came out right away. They scored
31:10
that touchdown. I think we
31:13
answered, but then it was just like all downhill
31:15
from there.
31:16
Well, Jared Goff, they had that weird thing where
31:18
Jared Goff, like, threw a pass, but
31:21
they called it a fumble, like, you know, it's
31:23
like, it's like one of those plays
31:25
where everyone just stops and then the only one that
31:27
runs is the guy that just grabs the football
31:29
and the only reason he's running is because the whistle hasn't
31:31
blown and he's like, oh. Okay, and then
31:33
he
31:34
they don't blow the whistle because they don't want to ruin it and
31:36
then they look on replay and say well You know,
31:38
it's not really enough to overturn it. So we
31:40
just handed them a touchdown
31:42
That's what I hate about that.
31:44
Like, I understand why they let the play run. Because,
31:46
like, what if it is a fumble? The problem
31:48
is, you need, you know, convincing evidence
31:51
to overturn it. if you weren't gonna
31:53
call it in a fu like, it's like
31:55
one of those 50 50 plays. You
31:57
know, if you're not going to, if you weren't going
31:59
to call it a fumble first, then,
32:02
you know, then the evidence wouldn't be
32:04
there to overturn it. But because you called
32:06
it a fumble because you're too afraid to,
32:09
you know, be wrong, then.
32:12
I'm not saying it's an easy job, but I,
32:14
I don't think it's exactly fair the
32:16
way that's, you know, that's the way that's
32:18
called, I'm obviously mad
32:21
in that particular play just because it costs
32:23
alliance, but it's just, I, I
32:25
just doesn't sit well with me, that,
32:27
that kind of call, um, I get why they have to
32:29
do it, but there's, there's a better
32:31
way to, there's a better way to officiate that,
32:34
in my opinion,
32:35
if you replay that like in
32:37
real time and try to
32:39
make that judgment call I think probably more often
32:42
than not you say it was an incomplete pass But
32:44
you know, they call it a fumble on the field just cause they,
32:47
you know, if they don't get a good angle or whatever, they let
32:49
replay take it over. Well, then you
32:51
go to replay and you have to overanalyze everything in
32:53
slow motion and then you really can't tell. So
32:55
like you said, it's 50 50 on the fields
32:57
of fumble. They had to let it go.
32:58
right. That play, the way it was
33:00
happening so fast, I'm not
33:02
fully convinced it was a fumble right now
33:05
Right. I mean, it's one of those that
33:07
it could have gone either way though. And then, you know,
33:10
we just, came out on the wrong end and it really, I
33:13
mean, outside of that, so golf
33:16
got sacked, I think like four times that
33:18
game, he lost three fumbles.
33:21
Including that one that was kind of controversial. We
33:23
lost two other fumbles. It
33:25
was like, uh, I think it was later in the game.
33:28
He tried to run for a first down. They tackled me, dropped
33:30
the ball. It's like, man, he finally
33:32
tried to run for it. And this is what happens. It
33:34
just, you know, just everything
33:36
just wasn't turning out. It was all going their way.
33:39
We didn't sack Jordan love one time.
33:41
We didn't get much pressure on him. They,
33:44
you know,
33:44
than the first game because the first
33:46
right.
33:47
out the gate and they had his number
33:51
This is just another one of those games that I have
33:53
circled. This is another revenge game. A
33:56
game I feel like we can win and we should win.
33:58
And now that it's, you know, this is week
34:00
14. So potentially there's a lot on
34:02
the line with the division at that point, depending
34:05
on how everything goes earlier. Going to be a huge game.
34:07
It's Thursday night football again,
34:09
Yep, only game on we're gonna be listening to al
34:11
michaels kirk herb street, looking
34:13
at his thursday night schedule. He's got a little bit better
34:16
schedule so hopefully al michaels can stay up
34:18
this time because he Seemed to be getting
34:20
quite bored last year at certain points during the
34:22
during the season, but
34:24
That's why I worry about you. So it's almost
34:26
midnight right now. I can't believe you're
34:28
Yeah, I know. I know. That's all right.
34:30
I took a nap today, so I'm good.
34:32
right.
34:34
Uh, so, I do not have
34:36
the Packers. It's my number two game. Uh,
34:38
the next one, I went with a Sunday
34:41
Night Football game on number three. I also
34:43
went with a Sunday Night Football game on number two, the
34:45
Houston Texans game. When I was a kid,
34:47
Monday Night Football was the thing. That was
34:49
what you were looking forward to every week. Now,
34:52
to me, it's Sunday Night Football. I don't know if it's because I'm
34:54
older, but it seems like they
34:56
get more Premier matches than
34:58
the Monday Night Football game anymore. Seeing
35:00
C. J. Stroud up there, we talked
35:02
about getting to see a lot of the young, quarterbacks
35:05
this season. I'm excited to see, um,
35:07
Nico Collins, another Michigan person we
35:10
root for outside of this game. I
35:12
just want to see this Houston Techens team because I,
35:14
I really equate with what's going on down there
35:16
really strongly with, uh, The lions,
35:19
you know, a team that just
35:22
couldn't seem to ever put it together. The
35:24
Sean Watson thing looked like it was going to just
35:26
destroy them. And, somehow,
35:29
you know, they, they lucked out, you know,
35:31
Bryce Young went to Carolina and
35:34
they got CJ Stroud.
35:36
Not unlike the Hutchinson thing for us.
35:39
You're right.
35:40
I mean, sometimes those things just work out, you
35:42
know, whether they're meant to be or.
35:46
lions.
35:48
I don't have, a lot of other teams I root for,
35:50
and mine kind of change on and off, just
35:52
based on who's playing for them, but
35:54
I, I do like the Texans, and outside
35:57
of this game, I hope they do well, um,
35:59
but that's kind of why I'm playing for them. Particularly
36:01
glad to see this Sunday night football. This is
36:03
going to be a heck of a game. I'm really looking
36:06
forward to this game. Uh,
36:08
so it's going to be, you know, we're going to have
36:10
our hands full, you know, another quarterback
36:12
that can run. I don't think CJ Stroud, like
36:15
that's not his primary game, but he can't
36:17
take off and you have to be aware of that. Uh,
36:20
they got great receivers down there.
36:22
Their defense is playing solid. I'm looking forward
36:24
to it. I'm looking forward to Lions proving that, they can
36:26
hang. So even if they got to go on the road
36:29
on Sunday night football.
36:30
Yeah, that was a good pick.
36:32
It was hard I think your Packers game, as
36:34
we talk more about these games, it was like, man,
36:36
I'm really looking forward to that game
36:38
right. right. We can just
36:40
circle all these games, man, I'm ready.
36:42
So, let's go to number one. I'm pretty sure that
36:44
both of us have the same number one, but maybe not.
36:46
There's no way we don't have the same number one. You
36:49
know. As soon as the schedule came
36:51
out, you know who we wanted. we want the 49ers.
36:53
We do.
36:54
We want that Monday Night Football, that Week 17.
36:57
We want the Redemption for the game we should have
36:59
won last year. We had it in the bag. Let
37:02
it slip away. If you're a Lions
37:04
fan, that has to be the game that you're looking at. We,
37:06
we want the Niners. We want that back.
37:08
It's going to be an important game. What could happen
37:11
is we face them week 17. We may be facing
37:13
that same team in a couple of weeks in the playoffs. We
37:15
need to show them that, we're top
37:17
dog. We're going to beat you. And. Your
37:20
place just like we should have beat
37:22
you in your place in the playoffs, you know We
37:24
just had a terrible third quarter worst
37:26
third quarter
37:28
Right.
37:28
that team struggle with frankly all season
37:31
that third quarter. I hope that's
37:33
something that they really find the solution to
37:35
this year I don't know what it is. I don't know if it was
37:37
something that just was a coincidence I'm not
37:40
sure but our
37:41
If it's the other team making better adjustments
37:43
or something and just takes us till the 4th to kind of,
37:45
you Adjust to that, you know,
37:47
I'm not sure exactly but you're right. It just seems
37:49
like we were we
37:52
were a good fourth quarter team, but not third quarter
37:54
and one of the times it just
37:56
was too much to overcome
37:58
Yeah, I don't know if their philosophy changed. We got this other
38:00
team where we want them and then they just
38:03
either on offense took the foot off the gas because
38:05
they didn't want to make a mistake or
38:07
I have not, I couldn't
38:09
pinpoint it and obviously they couldn't either because
38:11
they would have fixed the problem. I don't
38:13
know if it was something just internally, they just didn't plan
38:15
well. Cause the Lions use
38:18
that in their first drive in the first quarter.
38:20
Pretty good. They're usually go down
38:22
and they put up a fight on
38:24
that. If they don't score, they're at least getting a couple of first
38:27
downs and you know,
38:29
and you get a score. You, you putting
38:31
the pressure on them. Same thing in the third quarter, man.
38:34
That other team, like in that Saints game, when they
38:36
came down, Saints score, you know, we,
38:38
we. Pretty much controlled it, but then the
38:40
other team scores. And if you go three
38:42
and out, or you don't get a
38:44
couple of first downs and their team scores
38:46
quick, that's 14 points real fast.
38:49
And then the pressure starts to mount, you know,
38:51
and that's, that's tough. It
38:53
is. And especially when you're, you know, if you're not
38:55
playing in your home stadium, you
38:57
know, it really compounds because then the
38:59
crowd just like that you've taken out of it
39:01
because you've dominated the first half all of a sudden
39:03
back in it. And it's a different game at that
39:05
point. So I think, let's
39:08
not have a bad third quarter in this week
39:10
17 match. Let's just do
39:13
like we did in the first two quarters and just dominate
39:16
the heck out of that team. we were so close to the
39:18
Superbowl. I mean, so close.
39:21
close. Felt like
39:23
we were going to make it there.
39:24
Lot of people thought we weren't going to hang with the 49ers
39:26
to begin with. There was a lot of talk about, you
39:28
know, okay, this is the end of the road of the Lions.
39:31
They've hit the 49ers. So
39:34
it made it extra tough that we just like said,
39:36
no, man. The first half we're like, no,
39:39
we belong here and we belong
39:41
to be in the Super Bowl. We're a top team. And then
39:43
just, be a helmet bounce and
39:45
amazing catch. And then, Jameer, fumble
39:49
Right afterwards that was
39:52
hard pill to swallow
39:53
I think for any NFL fan though, if you're looking
39:56
at the schedule, like which games are exciting,
39:58
which ones are you looking forward to? I think most
40:00
people really want to see lions
40:02
and 49ers.
40:03
That's why it's a kind of a shame that it's all the way
40:05
at the back end of the season You know, it's all
40:08
it seems like so long away
40:10
You know when the season starts it'll come up quick enough
40:12
because the season always seems to go by super
40:14
fast I'm sure that
40:16
all the Lions players. They know
40:18
they were looking for when are we playing the 49ers?
40:21
When the schedule come out they want to know when
40:23
are we playing the 49ers? I'm sure you
40:25
know
40:26
get that one back.
40:28
So, all right, so we
40:30
went through our top five, a
40:32
few differences in there. I don't know how I don't have the
40:34
Packards in my top five because I just
40:36
like seeing them lose so much, even when they're not
40:38
playing the Lions, so,
40:41
It's fun to hate on the Packers.
40:43
The last thing that I really want to comment is every
40:45
year the Lions, Media team, which
40:47
is an awesome group, they always put
40:49
out something real cool, do a scheduled release
40:52
video. I watched it, you watched
40:54
it, we haven't talked about it, so I don't even know what you thought
40:56
about it, Did you like it?
40:57
I thought it? was good. I mean, it was nothing
40:59
too over the top. Some of the teams went really,
41:01
like, above and beyond with some of the things they did.
41:03
Uh, but you know, ours was just classic. The
41:05
two comedians from Detroit
41:08
going over it. Uh, It was funny.
41:10
It was quick. I thought it was good.
41:11
Yeah, I liked it too. I think last year's
41:14
topped it. I like the video game
41:16
and the AI voices. That was really unique
41:18
and just Some of the stuff they let Brad Holmes
41:20
and then Campbell say I was surprised
41:22
in that in the video last year that
41:25
was really funny, but I've watched it
41:27
like this current this video two
41:29
or three times and at first I guess I was
41:32
just kind of disappointed because I thought last year's
41:34
was so creative but the
41:36
more I watch it it's really funny, and
41:38
then Tim Robinson yelling about
41:41
the fanatics, giving out the the
41:43
jerseys early.
41:44
Yeah, right, right. Those
41:55
guys are funny and it's cool. They're from Detroit.
41:58
They're Lions fans
41:59
So it's it's obvious that they're huge Detroit
42:01
sports fans it's nice that you
42:03
know, they that they want to do this stuff
42:06
so I think that's About it unless
42:09
there's something you need to add in there.
42:11
No.
42:12
All right. I want to thank everyone for listening.
42:14
I hope you enjoyed yourself have
42:16
a great day and go Lions!
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