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What a good father he is.

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He is a good dad.

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Take them dad.

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We'll miss him for sure. And just hear filling filling

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shoes as it were. We got Chrispy in the back.

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Boys.

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How we doing fan Tabby Loso?

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Yeah, yeah, I can't complain. Draft We did this draft? Yeah,

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Draft Week players.

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Yeah, they have a lot of players.

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Trading.

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Yeah, they just acquire a ton of picks next year.

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Uh No, today's there's a press conference with who's all

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going to be on this press conference panel? We got Steven Jones, Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy and Will McLay.

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For this one today.

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Lunch provided, that's all I know.

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Lunch Yeah, lunch.

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Provided, which is a yeah, that's that's new. But yeah,

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so we'll we'll hear from them today. Obviously they won't

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give too much as far as draft strategy goes. But

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certain things that I'm I'm curious about to address is

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are they open for business and trading back? Do they

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want to acquire a Day three pick? You know, what does that kind of look like for them?

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Uh?

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And their conversations up there in the building. So excited

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to see what comes with that. And then man, draft time,

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I'm excited. Man, It's yeah, it's one of my favorite times.

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It's sure time to shine, right, It's just my favorite

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time of the year.

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Well, we got news and notes to get to kind of first off, before we get into the draft stuff.

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Uh.

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Dak Prescott, he had some comments this week or I

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guess last week. I kind of wanted to get into

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that as far as his future goes in Dallas. He made some comments about that. John, did you want to

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kind of kick us off? And yeah, tell us what he said?

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So Nick and I were both there and I don't

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know if this jumped out to you immediately when it happened.

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But the way he talked about not being nervous or worried, feared,

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I don't feel fear. I don't fear about whether it's

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you know, his futures with the Cowboys or something. And that's the first time I ever heard him kind of

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talk like that. I like, I liked it from his

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perspective because it just shows you that he's dug in

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and that I mean, he's a competitor. So I did

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it just he is so used to always saying exactly

2:50

whatever the right thing is or whatever, you know, towing

2:53

the company line, and for him to say that, that

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was the first time that I've ever been around him where I was like, oh, yeah, he's ready for He's

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ready for the a If if you guys think that

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you're better off without me, well maybe maybe maybe we'll

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find out.

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Now.

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Of course he didn't say that, but that's I mean, you read in between the lines. I thought that was

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that was pretty interesting, that part of it, and then

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the other part is just the whole. Yeah, he's talked

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to Jerry Jones about the contract, but haven't had quote,

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real talks. Yeah, And that one to me was a

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little surprising, just because that's all we talk about is

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just DA contract, CD contract, MIC A contract, and you're

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just thinking, well, no, they're they're having these conversations everything,

3:27

and the fact that they're not really having any substantial

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conversations it just I mean, I said this before free

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agency started. I know you've said it way before then,

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but just like every day that goes by, it's more

3:38

and more likely that he's going to play out this final year of this deal, and that's just gonna be wild.

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I mean, yeah, there's gonna be a lot of pressure on him, but there was pressure on him before for

3:46

that last deal and he broke his ankle pretty significantly

3:51

and still got that deal. So that doesn't mean that

3:54

he's not going to be with the Dallas Cowboys. But

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I think that, I think that right now is just

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more than ever you have to start thinking about that being a possibility. I know a lot of Cowboys fans

4:03

probably don't want to think about that. I mean, if you're a Cowboys fan, you're used to whoever is your

4:08

franchise quarterback. They don't wear anybody else's jersey, you know, Yeah,

4:13

they don't go anywhere else.

4:14

When was the last time a quarterback left the Cowboys

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like it's still still in good standing. I guess as

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far as his career, I don't think there's a like a good one. I don't think there's been one. Yeah, yeah,

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was that fist pump? Like a yes fist pump or like a darn fist place Listen.

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Like you mentioned, I foresaw that he was going to

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have to play in his fifth year, and it's still up in the air. But I like the fact that

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they're making him seemingly leaning towards him playing on his

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last year of his contract. I like it because all

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the respect in the world to Dak Prescott, great human being.

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He's been a good player for the Dallas Cowboys. But ultimately,

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your goal and your mission every year for every single organization,

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all thirty two teams, is to win a Super Bowl.

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That's your over archie go.

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Now, everything else underneath that umbrella is pretty much like

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pats on the back or progress. It's either pat on

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the back, Hey, good job got to the first round or guess what, you know, we got further than we

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got the year before, so we're heading in the right direction, right.

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Those are really the two boxes that get checked every single year. But if your ultimate goal is to win

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a super Bowl, and you're serious about winning a super Bowl,

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then you have to take the regular season work kind

5:24

of out of the picture.

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You really have to separate.

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Your emotional your emotional ties to an individual and the

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success that they've had during the regular season, and you

5:34

have to look and say, during the postseason, what have

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we done?

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And when you look at.

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Tony Romo's career here, which you moved on from him,

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he was two and FoEI in the playoffs, correct Dak

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Prescott's two and five as.

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It currently stands, there's not much difference there.

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Well, they're one difference though, I will say with Romo

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and Dak is that Tony Romo could still be the

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starting quarterback of this franchise for all we know if

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his if his back could hold up good, we don't know that, he wouldn't still be here right now. So

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his his health kind of forced the hands. So the

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idea that well, they're just not gonna put up with this, We're going to move the next one.

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We haven't really seen that from them.

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I understand that, and I totally agree with you. His

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tenure here got cut short because of the succession of

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Dak Prescott based upon an unfortunate situation with with Tony Romo.

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The thing is, the record at that point in time

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remained the same. He was two and four in the playoffs.

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Right now, Dak Prescott's two and five. So as an organization,

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regardless of how outstanding of a citizen he is, how

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how how much of a great model he is for

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the organization and great spokesperson, great human being, great regular

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season demon right killing it runner up to MVP? Does

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that get jewelry on your finger? And has it gotten

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jewelry on your finger? And if that is the ultimate goal,

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then why would you not put somebody's back up against

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the wall. Say, before I reward you, I have to

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actually reward you for performance.

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You're leading the witness a little bit. Obviously, no, there

7:08

are no rings on his finger. But I also think that was Dax Prescott's job to take. I mean, if

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it was what the Cowboys intended, if it was Paxton

7:16

Lynch on this roster, I think Tony Romo would still

7:19

probably be the quarterback in some capacity. I don't think

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he overtakes Tony Romo in that position. But because you

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had Dak Prescott on the roster. He took that job understood,

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he really did. As painful as that for me to say,

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as much as I left Tony Romo a little bit more context if I could on yeah, on the on

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the day last week and his availability. So first off,

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the event was for the Children's Cancer Ball on gala

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Dak Prescott and Troy Yeigman or co chairman's of the

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of the Cancer Fund. And there was fifty to seventy

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five kids that walked and over one hundred that were

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able to come back and you know, participate in the

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festivities after participating in previous years. So a really good

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cause overall. I wanted to be sure and hit that.

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Hey Romo ended up being there too.

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Roma was there too, which was very fascinating seeing all

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three of them together like that. It is very fascinating,

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especially given the context of all of them as well.

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But a couple of more things, uh, Dak Prescott has

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had a meeting with Jerry Jones in recent weeks. He

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was able to tell us and just he said that

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there's not any gray area. So at least whatever the

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understanding is, Dak Prescott and Jerry Jones are on the

8:24

same page as far as where this contract, where these

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contract negotiations stand, he said, I talked to Jerry, so

8:30

I understand where we are. Obviously Jerry's mentioned the same,

8:33

so there's not any gray area in that sense. We

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had a great conversation that put us aligned and where

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we are in this moment. And he made he said,

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in the moment now, focusing on now. That was kind

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of the theme around his availability in my eyes, and

8:47

he's maintained that he has kept that same ridic rhetoric

8:51

throughout his career. He said, you could go back to earlier in my career when there wasn't a contract in play.

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I'm a guy who focuses on the now, what I can do in this moment. Yes, yes, there's something you

9:00

can pull from that, but also I think it's it's a little bit more ambiguous when you look at it

9:04

with the context, given the fact that he's entering a

9:06

final year of his deal, and also the fact that

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you go back and you look at his previous availability,

9:11

which was for the same cause a couple of months ago.

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I believe it was early March, right before a free

9:16

agency started there at North Park. I think it was around early March, and he was like, I'm confident we're

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gonna get a deal done.

9:22

You know.

9:22

There's that's that's where that's where we stand. You know, I'm confident it's gonna happen and the team needs it,

9:26

so you know we're gonna get it done. To now,

9:29

Hey man, I'm just living in the now. You know, when when talks get here, they'll get here, you know.

9:33

And so it's like it's it's a little bit more more ambiguous and you kind of read between the lines

9:37

in that sense, and you wonder where and when this

9:39

conversation might happen. And then yeah, the final quote that

9:43

he gave on the last question, I'm not gonna say I fear being here or not right now.

9:47

It's with the Dallas Cowboys.

9:49

After the season, we'll see where we're at and if the future holds that, if not, we'll go from there.

9:53

So yeah, it's it's fast standing he is standing on

9:58

business and another another thing, I want to be sure

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and hit with CD apparently, you know, preparing to hold

10:04

out for a new contract. He was also asked, hey,

10:06

will you still be able to get working with CD if that holdout takes you into training camp, et cetera.

10:11

He said, we'll get some work in. I've been in communication with CD. Maybe a deal gets done, and if

10:16

it doesn't, I guarantee that we'll still find a lot of time to get the work that we feel comfortable.

10:20

One note on both of these topics with Dak Prescott

10:23

and CD Lamb is that the Reliant Home run Derby

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is next Wednesday, and both of them are expected to compete,

10:28

So there's could be a lot of headlines that come out of next week.

10:31

For sure, the.

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Home runs will not be the headline.

10:33

I'll tell you that, no, no, not quite.

10:36

I also kind of wanted to touch on he made

10:39

a few comments regarding the Cowboys offseason moves or lack thereof.

10:43

Did you kind of want to touch on that a little bit?

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Yeah, he had.

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I didn't really put it on this in this quote

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box that I have here, but that was another thing

10:52

that he had talked with with Jerry about a couple

10:54

of weeks ago, and that was kind of playing into

10:56

there's not any gray area, so he understands where the

10:59

organization is at. He understands where things are at. He said,

11:02

He's focused on the guys in the locker room and

11:04

what he can do to pour into them over the course of the off season. So I mean that was

11:09

that was you know, a typical deck answer and good sense.

11:11

Yeah, for sure.

11:12

So another topic that we have h Stephen Jones is

11:15

on the fan discussing offensive line. He discussed Trey Lance

11:19

a little bit, another thing that you touched on last

11:21

week at length. But I kind of wanted to get your thoughts on this now that he actually said it

11:25

onto the record. You know, this is out there for the world. With Mike Zimmer in the building. Obviously, the

11:30

defensive scheme is going to change a little bit, and he said, we're going to be relying on a three

11:33

linebacker system. Bigger in the middle and uh less of

11:37

the uh uh yeah, just bigger in the middle basically.

11:40

So he said more, he said, more three linebacker as

11:43

opposed to two linebacker and three safety.

11:46

That's yeah, true, true, as pretty much a base defense.

11:50

Yeah, but how four down, four down, three linebackers.

11:56

Historically, if in the last two or three years, I'm

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not talking NFL has changed the entire.

12:02

League, NFL has changed personnel.

12:04

So if you are going to be in a more

12:07

traditional type setting where you have four down, three linebackers,

12:11

you better have some you better have some dbs, and

12:14

you better have some great covering outside linebackers. Because the

12:18

game of football has changed. It's eleven personnel. It is

12:20

eleven personnel. And for those that don't know what eleven

12:22

personnel is. One tight end, one running back, three receivers.

12:26

That is primarily what most teams line up in, whether

12:28

it's run or pass. Now, if it's a second and short,

12:31

third and short, yeah, you're gonna come out in a twenty one or twenty two, whatever it might be personnel

12:36

to change up. You know the amount of tight ends and running backs that you have in the backfield. But

12:41

I can't foresee this team turning into a traditional base

12:47

defense in this NFL. And with the lack of picks

12:53

that you have in this year's draft, and the fact

12:56

that most of free agency is gone, So where are

13:00

you going to acquire all these extra assets that are

13:04

going to now feel the voids that you have in

13:07

this new system.

13:08

It was my concern last week.

13:09

It was my concern as soon as they brought Zim Roun staff, I was like, I can't see it. I

13:14

don't know how they get there with the current roster

13:17

that he's walking into.

13:18

So let's frum the tally. What would you need to

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be able to put together a base defense right now? Based on what this team needs, probably two defensive tackles,

13:26

at least one more linebacker another end.

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Yeah, I would say two.

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You need at least two more linebackers because you would

13:34

love over Showing to come back and be healthy.

13:36

Yeah, that's fair. You got pretty healthy.

13:38

I mean, but we had, you know, we have.

13:40

Unfortunately, what happened to Jabrill Cox kind of gave you

13:44

a peek into the window of what could happen when

13:47

Oversheon gets back. You just have to be obviously I'm

13:50

not putting that on him, but that just you have to be realistic about that about what he's coming back as,

13:55

because you would you had a really athletic you know,

13:57

Cox and linebacker. He was a beast fast, and then

14:00

he got hurt and then he came back and he just wasn't that right, whether it was confidence, whether it's ability.

14:05

So you're hoping that that's not the story for overshone.

14:08

So I would like to come into the season without

14:10

the expectation that Overshow is going to be what he was prior to injury, and plan for his replacement and

14:17

in hope for the best, right and then just have

14:19

that extra depth there. So if I'm not factoring overshown

14:22

into it, now all of a sudden you got Damon

14:24

Clark and you got Kendricks.

14:26

That's it.

14:27

Yeah, I think a minimum too and then hope for

14:30

the best basically with overshown and you know, let him

14:34

do what he needs to do to kind of get healthy.

14:35

But you talked about the size up front. You're severely undersized,

14:40

like not just a little bit. Yeah, you are severely

14:43

undersized for not only what mister Jones just said, right,

14:48

Stephen Jones just said about going to a traditional four

14:50

to three seemingly or historically what Zimmer has done with

14:55

a three four. Either way, you are severely undersized. And

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how do you rectify that?

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I don't know.

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M just add more beef, as to add as much

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beef as you possibly can.

15:08

And the draft I think, I think training table is going to change the type of foods are serving.

15:12

It's not gonna be training table, it is gonna be fatting table.

15:15

I mean, you're gonna be able to fill out the roster and get the right body types. The problem is

15:20

that are you going to have quality there because this

15:23

team's gonna I think they're gonna make I don't know,

15:26

two three, four undrafted guys, the guys that possibly make

15:31

this roster just because they're gonna need extra body.

15:34

I can see a linebacker they don't even draft.

15:37

That's a guy that's depth but also special teams that

15:40

makes this roster. I mean it's kind of like last year, like you had a pretty good idea with that when

15:44

they signed TJ. Bass after the draft, Like, yeah, as

15:47

he good as maybe a top three pick, top you know,

15:50

first three round pick, probably not, but he had a good chance of making the roster because hey, look at

15:55

what they need. You know, that's why he signed with

15:57

the Cowboys because it was gonna be a great opportunity to make the roster. I think linebacker you can fill

16:01

out a little bit that way. The defensive tackle, particularly

16:04

the big one technique, that's the one where I'm just like,

16:06

I don't know where you're really finding somebody like this.

16:09

There's not many in the draft either, Yeah, a lot.

16:12

So you're going and obviously you can speak to that all day long. You're going into this season heavily relying

16:18

upon rookies. Let's just call it what it is. Yeah,

16:21

young guys in general, young guys in general, rookies, undraft

16:24

second year guys, you're going into this season heavily relying

16:27

upon it in a year in which you did not get a lot of productivity out of your draft.

16:31

Yeah.

16:32

So if you have this big breakout year two for Mazzie Smith, are you feeling a lot better?

16:36

I feel a lot better. But I mean, we have

16:39

his work to look at, right, That's all we have.

16:42

You know, we can hope all day long.

16:43

We can wish.

16:44

I had a lot of wish sandwiches growing up, you know,

16:46

I wish my sandwiches were actually has some meat on it.

16:50

But there no a lot of times it was just honey and bread, you knows.

16:53

And it's not only that I hate to be I hate to be the downer here on all this, but

16:57

name the last player that really didn't give you anything

17:00

year one and just super ascended the next year. Like now,

17:05

there could be like a little bit in year one

17:07

and then they take the next step in your two. But I'm talking like, you get almost nothing from and

17:11

then year two you're just like, whoa where did this guy come from?

17:14

We're on the podcast, Let's do it.

17:16

I can't think.

17:17

I was at Broadcast boot camp.

17:19

There were offensive linemen there who played against the Dallas

17:23

Cowboys last year. We had conversations on the on the bus,

17:25

you know, lunchtime, and one of the offensive linemen that

17:28

I was with was literally laughing at He was like,

17:33

he didn't even know the name, but I knew he was talking about. He was talking about Mazi at the time.

17:37

He was laughing about it. He's like, man, who was that little dude they brought in here? He's like, man,

17:40

I was moving him all over the dog on field. He was so light in the butt. This is coming

17:44

from somebody who plays.

17:46

Early in the season or late in the season.

17:47

I'm curious because if you say earlier the season, that'll

17:49

worry me more.

17:51

Yeah, there's no way he was light early in this later.

17:56

But he was like, but the way in which he was talking about it was like, why is he out here?

18:02

And that was disturbing to me.

18:03

Obviously when you're having good conversation, but obviously as a Cowboys.

18:07

Analyst, I'm like, Ooh, that's not good. That's not good.

18:11

So if that's who you're relying upon currently, obviously you're

18:15

hoping that he puts on more way obviously you're coming. You're hoping that he comes in with a different mindset,

18:18

has a lot greater impact. We can hope, hope all

18:20

day long. But just going up, that's the reputation that

18:23

he currently has around the NFL, and guys are confident

18:28

going against them.

18:28

So I'm saying you're relying heavily upon him.

18:31

To make a one hundred and eighty degree change in

18:34

size and effectiveness, as well as trying to fill voids

18:37

with other guys who, as we know today, are unproven.

18:42

I'm seriously going through my head right now.

18:43

Don't know if you're looking it up, but like I'm going through my head right now the entire not that

18:46

I wasn't listening. I was just no if I'm going through like all the draft picks and like I'm thinking

18:50

all the Trayvon Diggs, Micah Parsons, Drawn Blands, all these

18:54

guys showed you a flash in year one. They showed

18:57

you something where you're just like, no, no, no, no, there's there's probably there's a little bit more there. I'm not

19:01

saying that you can't all of a sudden just be

19:03

like especially defensive tackle is a position like that where hey,

19:08

you might not see the best of the best of

19:10

that player year one, year two. It takes them some time.

19:13

So this is certainly a possibility here. I'm just going

19:16

off of the Cowboys track record of drafting generally. The

19:19

players that have contributed, you've you've known pretty early on,

19:22

oh yeah, there's something here. We saw flash heck, I

19:25

thought last year a training camp and even before that

19:27

preseason game, you saw some of that from de Marvion overshow,

19:30

And that's what made me think, oh, no, no, no, this dude's a rookie, but I can see him being

19:33

part of packages because we saw little flashes here or there.

19:36

I'm not saying he's gonna step in and be something.

19:39

There's something exactly, yeah, And that was what kind of

19:41

disturbed me about the conversation that I had with some of these players that were at the same event. It

19:45

was the fact that I didn't even hear the word fight or resilience or he got that dog or you know,

19:50

it was not even associated with his effectiveness of play,

19:53

but just like yeah, like I was able to move him,

19:55

but like, yeah, that boy fights, Like there was there was none of.

19:58

That just lighten lightening the butt.

19:59

Right now, what I'm doing is going through this photo that they posted at that boot camp to try to

20:03

figure out who Isaiah's talking about.

20:06

All right, well, let's take our first break, Chris. When

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23:02

All right, we got to get into the NFL Draft.

23:04

It's this week.

23:04

It's just let's get it.

23:07

What's wrong with that?

23:07

Man?

23:08

Come on?

23:08

All right?

23:10

I was looking at Twitter this week. A really good question.

23:13

I'm sorry X this week refuse really good topic brought

23:17

up by at John Machoda trade up or trade down?

23:20

Oh yeah, he's good. Give him a follow on ask that do you expect the Cowboys to pick.

23:24

At twenty four or would you trade up or trade down?

23:27

So I said this on the Draft show yesterday. This

23:30

is this is my feeling as of today, Tuesday, April

23:33

twenty three to ten twenty five am this. This could

23:35

change your quote right now, yeah, in the moment, as

23:39

of now, I think I think if one of three

23:44

guys are on the board at twenty four, I think they pick at twenty four. If either of those three

23:47

are off the board, I think they trade back. This is just this is just my opinion. Troy Faltanu guard

23:53

slash tackle out of mister standback Washington there.

23:56

Yeah, I don't think he'll be there either.

23:58

JC Latham tackles slash guard out of Alabama, third year guy,

24:02

and then Graham Barton tackle guard center out of Duke.

24:07

I personally have a little bit more pessimism than I

24:10

think most when it comes to either of those three guys being on the board. I give it like a

24:14

thirty percent chance that at least one of them will be on the board. That's kind of what I feel

24:17

right now. If none of those three guys are on

24:20

the board, I don't think they pick at twenty four.

24:22

I think they're para shooting back and getting on the

24:25

phone with Baltimore at thirty or Casey at thirty two.

24:29

You also got San Francisco at thirty one. Also, wouldn't

24:32

be surprised if they trade out of the first round entirely. I mean, they need to pick up some extra capital

24:36

that not having that fourth round pick not only does

24:39

that hurt, but they don't pick until the end of

24:41

the fifth So they're going from eighty seven on day

24:44

two in round three to one seventy four on day

24:48

three in round five. That's eighty seven picks in between

24:51

that you're just watching go by. There's a lot of really good talent there. For me, I feel like the

24:56

Day three talent obviously it is at the top, but

24:58

I feel like it's really top heavy. I feel like once you get into round six, round seven, you're starting

25:02

to reach a little bit more than you would in past years.

25:04

In round six.

25:05

In round seven, they need to pick up an early

25:07

Day three pick, and I think the best way to do that trade back six, seven, eight, nine, ten spots

25:12

in the first round or go back into the second round and get that extra pick.

25:15

Would it hurt to get out of the first round

25:17

for you just oh no, no, no, I'd I'd be

25:20

completely okay with it, especially if you could pick up two picks along the way. Yeah, just kind of based

25:24

on trade packages and things of the sort, you could get a third and a fifth, you know, if trading

25:29

back into the trading out of the first round. But

25:32

I mean even trading back to thirty two with Kansas City,

25:35

you run the opportunity of getting a third and a fourth. So it's I think picking up those extra picks.

25:40

I think that would be huge, especially if you can sneak one into the top one hundred so that you

25:43

can still get a top one hundred pick. And I

25:45

feel like they could still get a quality offensive lineman

25:47

there in the early thirties to mid thirties. Maybe not

25:50

the guy that they could get a twenty four, obviously, but I think they could still get a guy in

25:54

the early to mid thirties that can contribute immediately on

25:57

the offensive line, or just go ahead and get the number one linebacker in the class. So that would I

26:01

think those are the options, and certainly everything that's being

26:04

talked about up there, for sure, John, it was your question.

26:06

So yeah, so I think they're gonna do everything possible

26:09

to trade back, but obviously you need a partner, and so that'll be the key thing.

26:12

So at the Athletic we do.

26:15

A couple different mock drafts throughout this time of the year,

26:18

and we just did our final one yesterday, and so

26:21

every writer picks for their team. And my whole goal

26:25

was to get out of twenty four, just to see what else would be there if you move back.

26:29

And I tried.

26:31

So hard to get a trade back with so many different teams, and the only one I could get was

26:35

with Kansas City, and all I got was their third

26:38

for it, and I did it. And I will tell you this right now, if you get all the way back.

26:42

To thirty two.

26:43

Man, you're gonna get nervous about those offensive linemen. And

26:46

here's the thing. If you go back thirty two plus

26:48

a little bit more, and let's say you get out of the first round, then your first pick and your

26:52

your draft could be like Junior Colson or Jonathan Brooks.

26:56

Like, are you fine with that?

26:57

Yeah, you would have to be.

26:58

I think if you're going back to the mid second round, I think the hope would be that Edrin Cooper or

27:03

Peyton Wilson is one of those top two linebackers. I

27:07

this kind of based on hearsay. I think there's a

27:10

little bit more preference with Cooper just because there's not

27:12

as many medical concerns. But I think you could still

27:16

get back in those mid thirties and then you try to address offensive line later in day two, which you're

27:20

running that risk. But there's some good tackles there in

27:22

the second round and third round that you can move around with and you can be flexible with. But it

27:27

sounds like Kansas City is probably the most likely partner

27:30

because they need a receiver, and I think there could

27:34

be a drop of a couple of receivers just based

27:36

on other positions being valued a little bit higher here

27:38

in the first round on Thursday night, And if there's names like Brian Thomas Junior and Xavier Worthy and ad

27:43

A Ni Mitchell, Lad McConkie still available there at twenty four,

27:46

then it would not surprise me if Buffalo or Kansas

27:49

City get on the phone with the Cowboys to try to go ahead and move up to twenty four take

27:53

that receiver before the other one does it. Because both

27:55

of those teams are receiver needy right now, you would have to assume both of them are taking one.

28:00

Not to give away too much because the mock draft

28:02

comes out tomorrow morning.

28:03

But so I did that thinking the.

28:05

Same thing, and they didn't take a receiver.

28:08

Kingsley Sue Matteah and I was like yes, And I

28:11

was like, Okay, this is not good.

28:13

This is not good. Like I'm already regretting this, like

28:15

moving all the way back.

28:16

Yeah, because I'm fine with the trade back. But I

28:20

got to get an offensive lineman out of it. That just me personally, because this team's drafted very well offensive lineman.

28:26

They and honestly, when I say that, it could even

28:29

be a guard, like it needs to be an offensive lineman.

28:31

For me personally, I don't know if you guys feel differently, but I was saying that last year during the season

28:34

that I felt strongly at their first round pick would be.

28:36

An offensive lineman.

28:37

And that's before you know they lost obviously Tyron Smith

28:42

and Tyler be Ottish.

28:43

So uh yeah.

28:45

It's tough though, because you don't want to move back too far and then all of a sudden, you know

28:48

you're kind of wiped out of this clump of players.

28:50

And I think that's I bring that up because I think that's the way that they'll look at it too,

28:54

is that there will have to be a group of

28:56

players where they're like, all right, we got these five

28:58

or six guys, we can move back five or six

29:01

spots because we know we'll get.

29:02

One of these guys.

29:03

Whereas for me, I was just like, let me just

29:05

move back because it's an exercise. I just want people

29:07

to see what could potentially be there if you move all the way back to thirty two and it gets

29:11

kind of thin, man, Yeah, it gets kind of thin

29:14

back there.

29:14

Isaiah, stand trade forward, trade back? Stand Pat, what do

29:19

you think stand back?

29:21

I think I'm on the mindset of Nick I think

29:24

that they have a handful of guys that they would grab,

29:27

but if they're not there as much as they will

29:29

want to pick at twenty four, I think you have

29:32

to look at your roster. Then you have to look

29:34

at your salary cap, and you have to look in and say, how many players can we get for the

29:39

least amount of money. That's really what this decision is

29:42

coming down to. Either we get a really good, really

29:47

good impact player who's just sitting there that we really want,

29:50

or dang it.

29:51

He's gone. They're gone.

29:54

We got to add value now because you know, I

29:56

got twenty bucks and I got five kids defeet you

30:00

know what I mean.

30:01

Like, that's the situation they're in.

30:02

They have a little bit of money, and they got

30:05

to try to get as much as they can for that amount of money. So sometimes you got to go discount,

30:08

double check, and you got to go find you some

30:11

value with more picks. And even though that's not the

30:13

most popular thing, that's the responsible thing. And I think

30:16

that as hard as it is for the front office

30:20

right now, for the Cowboys, I think they're doing the responsible thing just holistically as an organization, and it's not

30:25

fun for fans. And it's not cool, and it doesn't

30:28

make headlines, and it doesn't add it doesn't equal up

30:30

to the going all in and all that jazz stuff

30:33

that everybody expected. But as they're doing the responsible thing

30:38

by waiting guys out, making guys prove it, holding on

30:42

to as much money as they can, trying to get

30:44

their books back in order, they're not just continuingly swiping

30:47

their credit card.

30:48

What's the move there on twenty dollars feet five kids?

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What would you do?

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Listen here?

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It's not none of our sponsorsa up.

31:00

Yeah, you've stressed that, all right.

31:02

I got another post from x year from at Nick

31:06

Harris DC, A really good person to follow, who is

31:08

one player, regardless of round, Gray, that you're most confident

31:11

will be in a Cowboys uniform by the end of the week.

31:13

Yeah, there was an overwhelming consensus, and I honestly I

31:17

was thinking about putting a little disclaimer out on the

31:20

tweet before I sent it out. You can't say Jonathan Brooks,

31:23

but I didn't, and everyone just said Jonathan Brooks. So

31:26

Jonathan Brooks out of Texas a running back. I mean,

31:28

every mock you look at has him pinned to the

31:30

Cowboys at fifty six running back from Texas As I said,

31:34

he's from Howlettsville, originally down in central Texas. He's a

31:37

top five rusher all time in Texas high school football history.

31:41

Almost want to stay championship at AT and T Stadium back

31:43

in twenty twenty, but went to the University of Texas,

31:46

sat behind Roshawn Johnson and b John Robinson for two

31:48

years and then got his opportunity to start last year.

31:51

Man super productive almost six yards per carry, but he

31:54

tours ACL late in the season against TCU. It was

31:56

late November. Had his ACL surgery performed by doctor Dan Cooper,

32:01

who is the Cowboys team physician. So the Cowboys have

32:04

more medical intel on him than arguably any other team.

32:08

With that being said, it's probably kind of caught up

32:10

by now because when he goes to the Combine, when

32:13

he goes on these thirty visits, they can evaluate him

32:16

to the very needle of where that surgery kind of

32:19

was performed. So a lot of other teams have that

32:22

same information, but the Cowboys they just kind of had a leg up and doing the homework on him. They

32:26

met with him at the Combine. I believe and know

32:30

for sure. They brought him in for a thirty visit, so they have definitely done their homework on him. I

32:34

think the only concern that you run there is will

32:37

he be there at fifty six. There has only been

32:40

one draft in the modern draft era that has seen

32:43

the first running back come off the board after pick

32:47

fifty six, So you would have to assume that that

32:50

would need to happen again this time around, because it's

32:53

between Jonathan Brooks and Trey Benson out of Florida State.

32:56

To my right, Johma showed us Florida State seminals. One

33:00

of those two guys will most likely be the first running back off the board. And if it's Brooks, does

33:04

he get to fifty six? You know, there's there are

33:07

other teams that have brought him in for thirty visits. The Panthers they pick at thirty three, and at thirty

33:11

nine they brought him in for a thirty visit.

33:13

I believe the Packers as well. You could also look at.

33:15

The Eagles being a sneaky contender there for Jonathan Brooks's

33:18

there's some there are some teams in front that you

33:20

would kind of have to sweat out not picking Brooks

33:23

but I think that's the safest pick right now. It

33:25

was like going into the draft last year, Demarvin Overshown

33:28

was It was kind of the one that everyone was

33:31

looking around like, Okay, this one just feels right right,

33:33

and he ended up happening.

33:34

There in the third round.

33:35

It feels a little bit of the same, But I

33:38

don't think there was as many concerns with Overshown last

33:40

year about him getting picked before whatever that pick was

33:42

last year.

33:43

I think there's a little bit more with Brooks.

33:45

You hear something I.

33:46

Do, Sorry, okay or nuts just asking mainly for the

33:51

fan here. Do you think picking up Royce Freeman changes

33:53

your strategy at all at drafting a running back at two?

33:56

No, I don't believe.

33:56

So I think you still need to go get an RB one. Think like, think about the signing of Ronald

34:01

Jones last year. Granted, take it a little bit more

34:05

seriously because Ronald Jones had the cases had the issue

34:10

at training camp last year where he was suspended for the first two games. I feel like he never was

34:14

able to get a fair shot as a result of that, and he was dropped as soon as that two game

34:18

suspension was up.

34:19

So I think I think.

34:21

Ronald Jones with a little bit more health and as

34:25

of now a little bit better standing with the league.

34:27

But I think it's just training camp competition and to

34:29

bring a veteran in the room. I mean, that'll help whether there's a rookie in there or not.

34:33

Isaiah, I agree, I agree. It doesn't change my approach.

34:37

It doesn't change my approach. You have to get a running back.

34:40

Do you need to because there's something that say you

34:42

need to running backs in this draft? Do you need to know you need one running back? I think, I think,

34:47

I agree, yeah.

34:48

But you need a But you need a starter, and

34:50

that's what that's what causes you. That's what causes me

34:53

concern because you need a starter at running back, but

34:56

you need to start two starters at offensive line, and

34:59

you need a starter at defensive line. I'm sorry, Yeah,

35:03

that's four four positions, four starters, four starters.

35:07

You can draft a running back and find one and undrafted rookie free agency.

35:09

But if that's the if that's the happen, then.

35:11

But I'm saying, but you need starters, you need a you need a star running back, you need two star

35:17

officeive lineman.

35:18

You can get away with one. Yeah, I'll get away

35:20

argue one. So you can get away with one. At the very least, you need a star.

35:24

You need a big boy office a lineman, and you

35:26

need a big dog on the defensive line. Oh and you need a big boy linebacker. You need a lot

35:31

of big boys in terms of like people to come

35:33

in and play now, not to supplement what you already have.

35:37

You need them to come in and be the guy. And that's what concerns me about this year's draft. You

35:42

need the guy at running back, the guy at office

35:45

of line, the guy at defensive line, the guy at linebacker.

35:49

Yeah, it's realistic.

35:51

I think you need the guy at linebacker. You see

35:54

the guy at linebacker.

35:56

Okay, you might I agree with you.

35:59

You might need the guy run back, defensive tackle.

36:01

I don't necessarily with linebacker, but yeah, I mean still,

36:04

there's there's too many there's too many holes. You need

36:06

a guy on the offensive line as well. So it's like, because as of now, as of today's stance, the offensive

36:11

line would be left tackle Tyler Smith, left guard TJ. Bass,

36:13

center brock Hoffman, right guard Zach Martin, right tackle Terrence Steele.

36:18

You need some competition in that interior.

36:19

Whether that's putting Tyler Smith back inside, or it's uh

36:23

bringing in a guy like Graham Barton or Cedric Vampur

36:26

and Granger out of Georgia to be able to have a little bit more competition in that interior. But I

36:31

think one thing that could also, man, this would this

36:35

would be a fun topic to talk about after the

36:37

fact if the Cowboys take one of those receivers at

36:40

twenty four that are slipping and I I would hate

36:43

that personally. I just think that's that's a that's a

36:46

bad strategy because you could you could sell that pick

36:48

for a little bit more than probably what it's worth and move back to that Kansas City spot and pick.

36:52

Up an extra pick. You take it back right now.

36:54

I'm telling you what my stance is.

36:56

I'm saying it would be an interesting thing to talk about after the fact if they do take a Brian

37:00

Thomas junior, because yes, this is an instant playmaker, He's

37:03

going to be able to, you know, sit right next

37:05

to CD. But I could also be like, hey, CD,

37:08

we got this other guy that can make plays too.

37:10

You know.

37:10

It's it's one of those senses. There would be a lot of conversations, be able to get the ball to

37:14

him in time exactly.

37:15

That's the question. I'm not for it.

37:16

I'm not for it. Don't get me wrong.

37:17

They're still dude by the name of Cooks here there is, but.

37:19

He's only got one more year left on his deal. You know, you would have to think you have to

37:23

start planning for the future outside of him. I think

37:25

you need to draft a receiver on day three. But

37:28

what if they're like, hey, this guy's here at twenty four,

37:30

we have him, let's say fifteen on our board. Let's

37:33

let's not win a dress it. Let's take the guy. And so they take the guy at twenty four, and

37:37

then they don't they wait till day two to address

37:39

Oh my goodness, I would I would be very upset.

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Let's go, Josh, all.

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Right, let's go.

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Let go.

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Uh Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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I know you have a uh Nick Harris's Top one

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hundred preview coming this week. Do you want to touch

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on that a little bit? Tease it for uh Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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Yeah, be sure and check in with with Dallas Cowboys

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be the smartest person in the room.

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Baby.

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Shout out to ky me and him put on a lot of legwork on that. On that thing, man, look.

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Now, why there's no Washington player on a cover? Hate

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it man? They put an Organ guy right in the middle.

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Whenever we were thinking about like who we should put on the cover, we were like, you know what we

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should not do. We should not put a wash that

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sounds we can piss off.

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Washington guy is definitely going to going to get drafted

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before Organ guy.

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Maybe two guys.

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Yeah, yeah, that's that's valid.

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But uh, anyway, as far as Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Uh,

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we'll be putting out a lot of draft content this week for me personally, putting out a top one hundred

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list as far as and position rankings leading up into

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the draft. Yeah, just kind of preview that as of

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right now, and I think this will probably stand. I have nineteen first round grades and uh, I'll be able

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to touch on those a little bit. I think there

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might be a couple of surprises depending on who you

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ask as far as who's in the second round grades. A couple of guys that I'm higher on than others.

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Andrew Phillips Kentucky corner. I have him as of right

42:05

now thirty four on my stack. I think he's a guy that's an early second round type talent. Haven't really

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heard a whole lot about him as far as going in the second round. Another corner is Kyrie Jackson out

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of Oregon, a press guy who I think is big

42:19

time and has crazy length that I think would work

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in a Mike Zimmer system, although I think he could

42:25

be picked earlier than some imagine really good corner draft man.

42:29

It was really tough to kind of stack these corners

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up because there are so many of all the positions.

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I had more corners in the top one hundred than any other position. So if you're looking for day three

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value to go ahead and go grab a corner, I think there might be some guys there. If you're thinking

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from a Cowboys perspective, if you feel like they need

42:44

to go get a corner on day three, then maybe that's maybe that's the Maybe that's the play there. Corner

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a wide receiver you have to draft one and you

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can only draft one. Which which one are you going?

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Corner?

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For sure?

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Corner corner?

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I just think that the depth there is it's underrated

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to have depth at corner, and I think wide receiver

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we've kind of made do with.

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Or not having guilt round give me like a.

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Fifth or after.

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More so six to seventh, probably a corner, Probably a corner. Yeah,

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I think there's a case to be made for both because outside of Ceedee Lamb and Brandon Cooks this next year,

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you have a lot of unknown behind those two. Granted, yes,

43:23

Jalen Tolbert stepped up and did what he was asked

43:25

to do last year, and there's probably if he stays on the same line in trajectory, there's probably another step

43:29

that he can take. And man, they are relying on

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him to be able to take that next step and be the solidified wide receiver three. Is he ready for

43:36

that type of role?

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Though?

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Then you also have Turp, who I've heard is ready

43:42

to be lined up for a big offensive opportunity next

43:44

season as well, even bigger than what he had last season.

43:47

You also have Jalen Brooks, who was wide receiver five

43:49

on the roster last year and still has an opportunity to step up and be that again this year.

43:53

Greatest camp out of anybody last year.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did have an awesome camp, Yeah

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he did.

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Him and Hunter Luk.

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Honestly, Lipy was awful, like the first three weeks of

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camp and then that Oakland or Vegas preseason game, he

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just exploded. But I think there is a case to

44:09

be made for receiver. But yeah, you look at corner, you look at the depth there, you would have to

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assume you lose to Von Gilmore. He hasn't signed with anybody yet, but you would have to assume you lose him.

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If one of those three guys gets hurt, Digs Bland Lewis,

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then you're you're in a real pickle.

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So yeah, I'm probably with you guys on corner.

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And the depth is so good at corner, I think you can get a guy on day three that can

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be a reliable depth option, more reliable than Naseean Wright

44:32

was all right, we're gonna have to.

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I was gonna say real quick, the whole corner thing, like, there's gonna be a good corners available at twenty four.

44:39

The one thing I will say about that is as

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great as it would be to put three stud corners

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all together, can you pay three stud corners?

44:46

You know what?

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I'm saying, can you put that much money you already know you already got the money and Digs, you already

44:49

know that you're gonna pay dround Bland, Like, can you

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really afford to have a first round pickt That's the

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only reason why I don't see that being up.

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Yeah, it won't be a first round for sure. Yeah, I don't think it'll be early pick at all. I

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think it's more so you get a guy on Day

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three and hope he can just be a reliable depth option for you, because man, I think had they had

45:07

reliable depth last season to be able to tell Stefunk Gilmore, hey,

45:12

you can rest this game against the Packers.

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We have a guy that we trust to be able to lock.

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It down and be able to keep true to ourselves schematically,

45:20

then I think there may have been a little bit a different result there. I'm not saying they win that

45:23

game because there were so many problems with that game, but I think there would have been a little bit

45:27

of a difference there.

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I think a difference could have been made.

45:30

But you see how much that the lack of depth

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hurt at times last season, and even when Diggs was down,

45:35

I mean there was a lot of concern early on, like, hey,

45:37

can Bland step up and do this? You're just fortunate

45:40

that you had a first team All Pro waiting behind, So yeah.

45:44

For sure, and if, especially if we don't bring Gilmour back,

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I think that would it would just make sense to have depth there. Overall, any other position groups you kind

45:52

of are looking at, as far as the top one hundred goes.

45:54

I think offensive line if you're looking at if you're

45:57

looking at the Cowboys to take a tackle, I think

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if they wait until round three, it might be too late.

46:03

And that's that's where it gets a little dicey.

46:07

You got Blake Fisher out of Notre Dame, Roger Rosengarden

46:09

out of Washington, who I really love. I think he's awesome,

46:12

and I think he could go anywhere from late first round to late third round. There's a huge range on

46:16

how teams view him. But if either of those guys

46:19

are available there at eighty seven, you haven't taken that tackle.

46:22

I think either of those options could be solid, But after that there is a huge drop off. So getting

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that offensive tackle on Day three, especially if you don't

46:29

have a fourth round pick, my goodness, that would be

46:31

extremely tough, and I think we could go into Day

46:33

three comfortably saying, Okay, Tyler Smith is starting at left

46:36

tackle this season, so that's one thing to keep an

46:38

eye on. Also, you know, taking a guard early on,

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could that possibly, you know, be more realistic than we think.

46:45

You know, that's something to kind of think about as well.

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Do they view some of these tackles as guards. That'll

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be immediate questions that you know we would have when

46:52

they take a lot of versatile guys in this draft.

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But yeah, there's gonna be a lot. There's gonna be a lot. Man, I'm really excited about it.

46:59

Now.

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Final question for you guys.

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I don't want to get into like the actual pick necessarily,

47:04

but first pick Cowboys make in the NFL Draft, what

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position will it be?

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Off the line?

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Offensive line?

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Line?

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Just line, no center, guard, specific off of the line,

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offensive line, easy.

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Boom, I'm gonna say left tackle.

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Oh specific, Yeah, I'll I'll go I'll go safe pick

47:26

here and just say offensive line too. Yeah, Because I

47:29

mean those three guys that I mentioned earlier, you look

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at Troy FALTONO, JC Latham, Graham Barton, and my eyes,

47:34

those are all interior guys. You could put jac Latham

47:36

at left tackle. I think I think that you would have the most flexibility with him. And I'm curious with

47:40

what you think about Troy Faltono. Do you think he could be a left tackle at the next level. I

47:43

think he's I like him inside as well. I think

47:46

he has the mobility in athleticism to try him out

47:48

at left tackle.

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He is a dog.

47:51

But I think if you don't get any of those

47:53

three guys and you're trading back, then you're probably looking

47:55

at a Jordan Morgan out of Arizona, who I also like,

47:58

is a guard.

47:58

You're also looking.

47:59

At potentially, Uh gosh, I'm trying to think a guy

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Tyler Guyton.

48:03

I mean, that would be a tackle option.

48:05

But I'm starting to think more and more that there

48:08

might be a guard that is the first pick, and Tyler Smith is just a.

48:10

Little It's funny.

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It's funny, you said, because if you go back three

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hundred and sixty five days, there was nobody talking about

48:16

Matthew bergeron and you see that those video from that

48:19

draft room come out. Now it came down to Berger

48:21

around and Mazzie Smith and how close it was. And

48:24

I just thought of it when I was reading Dan Bruger's Draft Guy because he compared Jordan Morgan to Matthew

48:28

bergeron and that immediately maybe like kind of like, yeah,

48:32

we wouldn't have thought that last year, but they were really into that whole idea of of going after Berger

48:36

around if they didn't if Mozzie Smith wasn't there.

48:38

So so they're taking bergeron this year?

48:40

Is that what you're saying, maybe maybe check the Athletic

48:43

mock Draft.

48:44

I'm living in the chaos and I'm looking at linebacker.

48:47

I'm looking at linebackers the first pick.

48:48

As a first pick.

48:49

I want to see it.

48:50

Yeah, that would be it would be interesting. They would

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have to trade back. There was the guy.

48:57

There that was worthy of twenty four. I think where worth?

49:03

All right? Boys, you guys, but no.

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There's just not There's not like one of those linebackers

49:07

that there are in some drafter you're like, oh yeah, you know, like like a ro Quand Smith type, you know,

49:11

like that where you're like, well, this is obviously the best guy. That's a bunch of guys that like are

49:14

kind of all in a group that people think will go early mid second round.

49:17

You know.

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So I think if Peyton Wilson didn't have the medical concerns,

49:20

he'd probably be that guy.

49:21

But the medical concerns push him to Day two comfortably.

49:23

Fair enough, our boys. That'll be it for the UH

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