How did Mike McEvoy deal with his internal panic about "the elephant in the room" that is climate change? Lisa has a chat with Climate for Change's National Program Manager about how his journey from a child looking at a poster of a pygmy possum led him to (as an adult) putting his hand up to run for Local Council. After he was elected he realised that change needs to be social in order to create higher-level action, and he has been building the social movement through C4C's Climate Conversation Program ever since. More information can be found on the Climate for Change website or Instagram. 

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