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1:05

Okay, so two weeks ago, we talked

1:07

about the philosophy professor

1:11

at that New York University who,

1:13

he got suspended, right, for what he Yeah.

1:16

Uh, you know, said, and if you're

1:18

curious as to what he said, go back a couple of

1:20

weeks and listen to that episode. But

1:22

anyway, we have,

1:24

uh, I think more philosophizing to do

1:27

here because I ended up on this website

1:30

and maybe this happens to you, but you,

1:32

you, you're looking at something and

1:34

then you, you end up

1:36

on some other website and you don't really know

1:38

how you got there and then you start reading that

1:41

and

1:42

yeah, I love going down the rabbit

1:44

holes. Yeah, it

1:45

is, it's a rabbit hole for sure. That's

1:48

what happened here and I ended up on

1:50

weareteachers. com

1:52

and it's philosophical questions

1:54

and they had a bunch of different categories and

1:57

I've got like 10 here and I thought we could

1:59

roll through these and I think some of these are kind

2:01

of fun to think about, others are a little

2:03

more weighty, I

2:05

guess you would say. Mm hmm.

2:07

But. Yeah, so here

2:10

we go. Do you feel like philosophizing?

2:12

Absolutely. If

2:14

it was possible to live forever,

2:17

would you want to?

2:20

I don't think so. I think

2:22

at some point you'd just get worn out.

2:25

Wouldn't you? I would think so too, yeah.

2:28

I think that, and also, if

2:30

everybody else that you know isn't

2:33

also living, then you're going

2:35

to experience a lot of loss.

2:37

A lot of loss, I thought about that. And

2:39

what condition am I going to be in? What

2:41

is that?

2:44

Sometimes I'm barely making it as it is. Right.

2:48

So, yeah, am I just going to be shriveled

2:50

up? And,

2:54

uh, what is the condition

2:57

of the world gonna be like, like

2:59

in a hundred years, two hundred

3:01

years, and am I, am I allowed

3:03

to just off myself and end it after

3:05

like two hundred years or something, or do I

3:07

just keep going and going, so yeah, I don't know

3:09

that I would do that. I

3:11

would like to think I could get out if I wanted

3:14

to.

3:15

Alright, number two, what

3:19

is the biggest issue in our society

3:21

right now? Ooh.

3:23

If you had to pinpoint one thing.

3:25

Man. That's

3:28

tough. And

3:30

by the way, I've looked at these, but I haven't really

3:32

thought about them at all. I

3:34

don't really know. I

3:37

have a lot of problems with, I got a lot of problems.

3:40

I know! We have so many problems.

3:42

I mean. Yeah. I'm gonna talk

3:45

about poverty,

3:47

homelessness, violence.

3:51

Yeah,

3:55

there's a lot. There's probably something there.

3:57

If we solved that problem,

4:00

then other problems could get

4:02

solved. I don't know what that might

4:04

be. Maybe a

4:07

lack of empathy. People

4:10

just not caring. Maybe

4:12

that would do it. I don't know. Maybe

4:15

that's naive, too. I'm not sure.

4:17

I don't know. That's a good point, though. You're

4:20

not talking about addressing

4:23

any of, well, you are, but

4:26

like all, any of the things that I just said,

4:28

it's not about attacking those. It's saying,

4:30

Hey, there's a bigger underlying issue.

4:33

Yeah. Is yeah. If people just don't

4:35

care about the homeless people or the poverty,

4:38

then nothing's going to get

4:40

done.

4:41

There's a lot. In this country,

4:44

um, that is,

4:47

I don't know if this would probably help it too.

4:50

And I don't know how you solve this or

4:53

even if it's a problem to be solved, but out

4:55

of sight, out of mind, like

4:57

if you're living in a gated community

5:00

in a, you know, a million dollar house,

5:03

how often do you confront poverty,

5:06

crime, homelessness?

5:09

Yeah, it's just, uh, you

5:11

don't know about it, or you can just put it

5:14

out of your mind because you never witnessed it, so you don't

5:16

really see those as major

5:18

problems in society. Very

5:21

true. I was just about to say that specifically

5:24

related to the crime aspect,

5:26

or violence, is if you're not

5:28

in an area where you're subject to that,

5:30

then you have the attitude

5:33

that it always happens to somebody

5:35

else. You know, it's not here,

5:37

so why do I need to be that concerned

5:40

about it? But that's

5:42

true for all of those things.

5:44

OK, next, do

5:47

you think it's important to conform

5:49

in society?

5:52

To an extent, but

5:54

that's... OK, I

5:56

do like to blend in, as

5:59

in, I don't want to be that standout

6:01

person that everybody's looking

6:04

at for whatever reason.

6:06

I don't feel that need and I don't

6:09

want that. So

6:11

there is some degree of conformity

6:15

that I have, but at

6:17

the same time, you

6:19

know, we would never get anywhere if

6:22

everybody did that. We need

6:24

those people. I'm okay not to

6:26

be one of them, but I'm okay

6:28

that we have some of them that

6:30

are like, hell no, I'm

6:32

not doing that, you know,

6:35

just because everybody else's that doesn't

6:37

mean I have to. And you

6:39

get people like that and it

6:42

can promote good change.

6:44

Yeah, I like the way you stated that. I think I'm the exact

6:47

same way. I, I don't

6:49

want to be noticed. That's

6:51

the worst. Like if I, if

6:53

I walk into a room and everybody turns and looks

6:55

at me, no, I don't want that. I don't want to stand

6:58

out. Yeah, I

7:00

don't want to stand out like that. But

7:02

I tell you what, I'm going

7:05

to sound like an old person here, but

7:07

as I've gotten older, I've

7:09

learned to appreciate more

7:12

the people who are their true

7:14

selves, individuals, and

7:17

they're not conforming to

7:20

whatever it might be. They're

7:22

being their own person and they're comfortable

7:24

in their own skin and they're doing their own thing.

7:26

And to me, those individuals

7:29

are a lot more interesting

7:33

than a

7:35

lot of the people you're going to find, you know,

7:37

who are doing pretty much what everybody else is

7:39

doing. And I'm

7:41

doing pretty much what everybody else is doing. And like

7:44

you said, I'm okay doing that, but I'm glad

7:46

that those other people

7:48

exist for

7:49

sure. Yeah, and

7:51

I think, to me, it makes a difference,

7:53

too, about why those people

7:55

are doing what they're doing. Sometimes,

7:59

you know, especially with younger people, you see

8:01

it more out of rebellion. Yeah.

8:03

And with, and with older people,

8:06

it is more of what you

8:08

just said, is that they're more comfortable

8:10

with themselves. And

8:12

it's like, hey, I know who I am,

8:15

I'm not like these other people. And

8:18

I'm going to be myself.

8:20

Like you said, they're comfortable with that. I

8:23

like that better than I do the

8:25

rebellion part of it.

8:28

Is there a point where it's acceptable

8:30

to just not care anymore?

8:35

Probably. Depending on what

8:37

it is.

8:38

Well, I see,

8:40

uh, you know, old people out and about

8:43

and it's like they put on the

8:45

first thing they saw in their room,

8:47

you know, it's like a, like, like

8:49

coveralls, like a big old, you know,

8:52

like one piece, whatever,

8:55

a big onesie, a big onesie.

8:57

That's what it is. And they

8:59

just go out and about and they clearly

9:02

do not care. Like their hairs.

9:04

If there's anything left of it is going in 50

9:07

different directions. They just don't give a shit

9:09

anymore. When is

9:11

that acceptable? Because I

9:13

kind of admire that too.

9:17

See, I look at it and go, what

9:19

the fuck? Do

9:22

you own a mirror?

9:26

It's got to be, uh, it's got to be a

9:28

relief to just not give

9:30

a shit what people think.

9:33

No, I see what

9:33

you're saying. I don't know that I'll ever

9:35

be that way. Like, I do care what

9:37

other people think.

9:39

Yeah, I will never be that way.

9:42

Well, and, OK,

9:44

so here's a question. Is this

9:46

about they don't care

9:48

what other people think? Or they

9:50

don't even care what they think? Like,

9:53

I don't care, I don't care what

9:55

I look like. And so, never

9:59

mind what

9:59

everybody else thinks. Yeah, I think it might

10:02

be both. I think it might be both. And

10:04

I always see that, I see posts like

10:06

that on Twitter or whatever, it's like,

10:08

don't bother yourself with what other

10:10

people think. It's like, how the fuck can you

10:12

do that? Yeah. You're

10:15

around people all the time. How can you, how can

10:17

you have the attitude? And I guess some

10:19

people really do, but I certainly don't.

10:22

I definitely, I care,

10:25

but I try to, I don't know,

10:28

care to an extent, I guess is

10:30

what I would say. There's gotta be

10:32

some limit there, otherwise you're

10:34

just like... Letting your life be

10:36

directed by everybody else. And

10:39

then maybe you're not really happy.

10:43

Okay. Uh, the next

10:46

one, do humans treat

10:48

animals properly or do we need

10:50

to improve?

10:52

That depends too. We need to

10:54

improve. We definitely need

10:57

to improve. I always,

10:59

I always had a, I say always,

11:01

as I got older, and I think we've talked about

11:04

this before, I had a problem with the circus.

11:07

You know, yes, it was cool

11:10

to see, but then I was

11:12

like, Ok, nothing

11:15

that's happening out there is natural.

11:17

Right. None of this behavior

11:20

is ok to those animals.

11:23

So what got them

11:25

to do that?

11:27

And then I've heard things about the circus

11:29

where, like, the training that

11:32

the elephants go through, or whoever, is

11:34

just brutal.

11:36

It would have to be. Well,

11:39

and then I think about the zoos, like

11:41

the zoos are for us. They're not for

11:43

them. And how

11:45

horrible would that be to just be caged

11:48

up all the

11:48

time? Yeah, I

11:50

think that's ultimately what I have a problem with

11:52

is when I, when I look

11:55

at this question is animals

11:57

that are cooped up where

11:59

they clearly don't want to be cooped up like

12:01

dogs, dogs, they're not.

12:04

Cooped up, they're loyal to the, you know,

12:06

their humans, their pack. And, and they

12:08

want to be there. They're, they're happy they're

12:10

there and cats will hang around

12:13

if you're feeding them, so

12:15

they clearly want to be there too, but

12:19

stuff you got to put in a cage, that

12:22

can't be a good existence, right? It can't

12:24

be same with fish. You

12:26

know? That's true. And

12:29

then, I don't want to think about this too much because

12:31

I like meat, and I like chicken,

12:34

but the horrific treatment

12:37

of stuff that ends

12:39

up on our plate, again, I think

12:41

about it too much, but that's not

12:43

good treatment. Not by any stretch. No, it's

12:45

terrible. At least the

12:47

chickens never get very old. True.

12:51

They're like, I think they're like

12:53

six weeks old.

12:55

Yeah, it's a horrible existence for only

12:57

a short time. For a short time.

12:59

Yeah. Um, speaking of the

13:02

treatment of animals, it's kind of funny, um,

13:04

so my boss

13:07

was in town last week from Finland,

13:10

and some people here

13:12

took him to a rodeo, and

13:14

I said, so how'd

13:16

you like the rodeo? And he said, well,

13:19

it was OK, but I would say

13:22

there was some stuff that was kind of inhumane

13:24

about it. And then he

13:26

said... Because, I

13:28

found out why the horses buck

13:30

like they do. He said,

13:33

that just doesn't seem very nice.

13:38

Like, yeah, not so much.

13:41

Yeah, and I gotta say,

13:43

every time I see a story, or

13:45

I see a video, where

13:48

a bullfighter is

13:51

gored by a bull,

13:53

or charged, or whatever, I kinda,

13:56

kinda say, alright, good on the bull. Yeah.

13:59

Yeah. It is karma. OK,

14:04

this statement, or this

14:06

question, is kind

14:08

of depressing to me, but I want to see what you think

14:10

about it. What do you

14:12

believe about this statement? Quote,

14:16

everyone dies twice, once

14:19

with their body, and again

14:21

the last time someone mentions their name.

14:25

Oh, wow.

14:26

Yeah. And here's why it bothers me.

14:29

There's going to be some point. Where

14:32

people will not even know who

14:35

you were. That's

14:36

right. They're not going to know

14:38

who you were. Yeah. And

14:40

unless you do something spectacular like

14:42

Da Vinci or Edison or who knows,

14:45

you know, anybody who's invented something or whatever,

14:47

or you're really evil,

14:50

like Hitler, people are

14:52

not going to know who you are. And

14:54

that's kind of troubling to me. I'll

14:56

just be forgotten.

14:58

It is. And think about how

15:00

quickly it can happen, too. Yes.

15:03

I mean, it's about two,

15:05

probably. Two, maybe

15:08

three generations. Yeah.

15:10

And I mean, who do we talk

15:12

about? Our grandparents. Yeah.

15:15

That we would have known. And

15:18

so maybe we talk about those grandparents

15:20

to our kids, who'd

15:22

have been their great grandparents, but

15:26

are our kids going

15:28

to continue talking about their great grandparents?

15:32

Probably not. I don't talk

15:34

about my great grandparents, I mean,

15:37

hardly, well, I did

15:39

know one of them, but

15:41

that would be the only reason.

15:44

Yeah, but for the most part

15:46

that doesn't happen. Most people

15:48

don't know their great grandparents or

15:50

have very, you know, faint

15:52

memories of them. Yeah. And

15:54

really couldn't tell you much about them at all.

15:58

So you're talking three generations at the

16:00

most, which means within

16:03

what, 70

16:05

to 100 years after you die?

16:08

Yeah. That's, that's

16:09

it. That's it. Next

16:12

one. Should everyone have to be an organ

16:14

donor?

16:16

No. You shouldn't have to. Cause

16:19

then you're forcing me to do, you're forcing

16:21

me to do it. I think,

16:24

morally, it's a great thing

16:26

to do. Yeah,

16:29

but morally, ethically,

16:33

both, I guess, yeah, kind of

16:35

both. So the reason I included

16:37

this is I recently saw this

16:39

about Singapore. Singapore

16:42

has a law that like

16:45

the default position is you are an

16:48

organ donor. Like you're,

16:50

you're on the list.

16:52

You're an organ donor, so your

16:54

organs will be donated when you die,

16:57

unless. You

16:59

like sign something and say, I don't want that

17:02

to happen. But if you do that,

17:05

you're put down on the bottom of the list

17:08

for people who need an organ transplant.

17:12

Yeah,

17:12

that'll make you think twice. That

17:14

will make you think twice. What do you think about that?

17:18

I think I might like it. That's

17:19

fair. I think that's fair. Like,

17:22

hey, if you don't want to give up, why would you expect

17:24

somebody else to give up?

17:26

Yeah, I think I like that. So

17:29

I don't think I'm in favor of, hey, you got to be an

17:31

organ donor. I'm in favor

17:33

of like they do it. The default

17:35

is, yeah, you're an organ donor, but if you don't

17:37

want to, then we're going to put you down on the list.

17:39

And if you need a new,

17:41

whatever, sorry, you

17:44

know, you didn't want to give your organs to anybody,

17:46

so. Right. Why should anybody

17:48

give up theirs? And how many

17:50

people would change their mind or want

17:53

to change their mind? Can they change

17:55

their mind? Yeah.

17:58

One time decision. That's it. I know.

18:01

Well, because then you think if

18:03

you need an organ, are

18:06

you necessarily qualified

18:08

to be an organ donor later?

18:11

I don't know that. And I don't

18:13

mean the organ that was donated to

18:16

you, but let's say I

18:18

need a kidney. And so I get

18:20

a kidney, but after I die,

18:23

could they use my heart,

18:27

my, you know, some other organ,

18:30

and I don't know if they can,

18:32

if you receive, if you've already received

18:35

an organ, but that's

18:37

what I'm saying, that would make you wonder,

18:39

like, can I change my mind and say,

18:41

oh, since I need something, yeah, I'll

18:43

be a donor, right? Or

18:46

does it even matter?

18:48

I wonder how long they've been doing transplants.

18:51

Do you know? Like

18:53

ballpark? Are we talking like 50

18:55

years? Or has it been more recent?

18:58

Wasn't the first heart transplant done

19:00

in like, late 60s?

19:03

I was gonna say 50s or 60s.

19:06

So, unfortunately, that's

19:08

a little longer ago.

19:11

Yeah, again,

19:14

I'm thinking 60s. I'm thinking like, oh, that's

19:16

40 something years ago, right?

19:18

No. I know. OK, here we go. 1954.

19:22

The first heart

19:22

transplant?

19:23

No, the kidney was the first human

19:26

organ to be transplanted successfully.

19:28

Oh, well, successfully. Successful.

19:32

Yeah.

19:35

Poor bastard. Yeah.

19:38

Before that. So I,

19:40

I actually just talked to someone recently

19:44

who donated a kidney. And

19:47

I was like, so

19:49

they slap it on the table,

19:52

took it right out. So

19:55

I was like, so the person that

19:57

that kidney went to, they

20:00

didn't like neither one of their kidneys

20:02

were good. They had like 5%.

20:05

Functionality. Oh, wow. Total.

20:08

So, I mean, they were bad, bad

20:11

off. But anyway, I was like,

20:13

so what? They take those

20:16

two kidneys out and put

20:18

this new one in? They're like, no.

20:20

They actually put the put, give

20:22

them a third kidney.

20:24

Yes. They leave them in.

20:26

I didn't know that. Yeah, I read that

20:28

not too long ago. Yeah. Isn't that

20:30

wild?

20:31

Yes. They said they like tee

20:33

it off where? The

20:36

one kidney, or I mean, two

20:38

kidneys feed the bladder

20:40

on one side and then one kidney on

20:42

the other, and the, the

20:44

functionality then of the two

20:47

bad kidneys might improve a little

20:49

bit because of the good

20:51

kidney that they got. So

20:53

then they're working on better

20:55

than one kidney's worth of.

20:58

Functionality. That is amazing.

21:01

Which means then they're better off than the

21:03

person who donated the kidney I

21:05

know. Yeah. Who's now just working off of Wine

21:08

That seems kinda wrong, but yeah.

21:10

Yeah. It's true. Okay.

21:14

What makes something, and, and

21:16

there are two questions here. The two that

21:18

I have, they're kind of closer related. What

21:21

makes something right and something

21:23

wrong? Ooh,

21:26

that's heavy.

21:27

Yeah, that is heavy. Well,

21:29

and we've kind of talked about this before, I

21:31

mean. I think religion

21:34

drives a lot of people's opinions

21:36

on that. For

21:39

sure. And, and so I

21:41

would say from that, whether

21:43

you are religious or not,

21:45

a lot of your determination

21:48

of right and wrong is

21:50

still driven by that

21:52

because of all the other people

21:54

in society that are getting it from

21:57

that.

21:59

I was going to say, my answer to

22:01

this now, and I'm not quite sure what

22:03

it is, but my answer to this now

22:06

is going to be very different than

22:08

it was 30 years ago.

22:12

Even less than that, because yes, it

22:14

was based on religion.

22:17

So why don't

22:19

you lie? Well, because

22:23

God says not to lie, you're

22:25

supposed to tell the truth. Uh,

22:27

why don't you curse? Because

22:29

the Bible says you're supposed to have, you

22:31

know, clean language or whatever the hell it says. Whatever

22:33

the fuck it says. Don't

22:37

commit adultery because the Bible says not to. Like,

22:39

it was all based on stuff

22:41

in the Bible. And now, if you don't

22:44

believe in that anymore, then what

22:46

does that leave you with? And I

22:49

don't know. It's different for every

22:51

type of quote unquote sin,

22:54

every wrong that there is, I think.

22:56

I mean, Why don't

22:58

you lie? And we

23:00

talked about this a couple of weeks ago, I think,

23:02

but it's okay to lie sometimes,

23:05

right?

23:07

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Like

23:09

who doesn't when it comes down

23:12

to, for example, protecting

23:14

someone's feelings. Right. You know,

23:16

Hey, do I look good in this? Whatever

23:19

I'm wearing. Yeah, it looks great. Yeah.

23:23

Um, but then, you know, why

23:25

don't you lie under most circumstances? Well,

23:28

you know, 30 years ago it was because

23:30

God says not to, but now it's like, well,

23:32

if you, if you lie here,

23:34

then, you know, people aren't going to trust

23:36

you. And, you know, there's, there's all sorts

23:38

of issues with that and just whatever.

23:41

I don't know. It definitely gets more complicated

23:44

if you can't just fall back on

23:46

a religious. text

23:49

to say, well, it says

23:51

not to. So then that's that.

23:53

Yeah, it does. Because the religion

23:56

part makes it so black and white.

23:59

It's black and white for sure.

24:00

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're,

24:03

you're doing the wrong thing because

24:05

it says it right here and you're going

24:08

to hell because you did the wrong thing. So

24:11

then do you want that? All right.

24:13

But. You know, then, I've

24:15

heard other people talk about it, like, and

24:19

you and I have mentioned this too,

24:22

is If you are only

24:24

doing the quote unquote

24:26

right things because

24:28

the Bible says do this

24:31

or don't do that, are

24:33

you really a good person anyway?

24:36

Because, you're only,

24:38

yeah, because you're only doing it out

24:41

of threat. It's

24:45

the threat of being punished.

24:47

And how about saying, I'm

24:49

gonna do the, you

24:52

know, the good thing, the right thing,

24:54

because it's the good or right thing to

24:56

do, and how that gets determined

24:58

is all, I would

25:00

say that even is different in

25:02

different circumstances, because you could

25:04

say, well, is it OK to lie

25:07

in this circumstance? Well, if it

25:09

protects somebody's feelings, you could,

25:11

you know, come up with your own justification

25:13

for that. Mm hmm. But then... You

25:16

know, is it okay to kill somebody?

25:18

How about that? Well, if it's

25:20

just out of anger, then you

25:22

could be like, well, no,

25:25

because you know, you're taking their

25:27

life and all that kind of stuff,

25:29

but what if you're doing it in self defense?

25:32

Does that change things? To

25:34

a lot of people it does.

25:37

What if you're doing it proactively? Killing

25:41

them proactively? Yeah. What if

25:43

you knew the person that you're going to kill

25:45

was going to kill 10 people?

25:48

What if you knew they were going to shoot up a school? Yeah.

25:53

I mean, I think it's okay to take them out. I

25:55

mean, if I knew that... But the Bible says thou shalt

25:57

not kill.

26:00

Right. If I knew that

26:02

for a fact, then yeah, I would say,

26:05

yeah, what's the difference?

26:08

Okay. And then the next one, again,

26:11

as I said, it's closely related, but

26:13

what makes a crime a crime?

26:17

Yeah, very closely related.

26:21

I think, um, I think a lot of

26:23

our laws get based on

26:25

the, the welfare

26:27

of society. Yeah.

26:29

You know, is there a harm

26:31

to other people, society

26:34

as a whole, things like that.

26:36

And I think that's a lot of where the

26:39

good or bad, right or wrong can come

26:41

in. Did I, am

26:44

I causing any harm? Am I doing

26:46

something that's going

26:48

to bring about some kind of

26:51

badness to somebody,

26:54

something, some environment,

26:56

whatever?

26:57

Uh, my first, I

27:00

think this was the first class

27:02

of, of my criminal law course

27:04

in law school, one of

27:06

the first things the professor said,

27:09

he asked, What

27:11

is a crime? Mm-Hmm. And

27:14

we went like, I swear

27:16

it felt like 15 or 20 minutes where we

27:18

were shouting out answers, saying, Nope,

27:21

nope, no, no, whatever. And finally

27:23

you said a crime is whatever

27:25

a legislature says is a crime. That's

27:27

it, It's like whatever they said

27:29

is against the law. That's what it is.

27:32

And it kind of makes me think. Two

27:34

weeks ago, talking about the professor,

27:36

and he said, OK,

27:39

for those of you who didn't listen, so here's

27:41

what he said. He said, uh, if

27:44

a man has sex

27:46

with a willing 12 year old girl,

27:48

that's not morally wrong,

27:51

although he said it should be criminalized.

27:54

And you and I were talking about this, like,

27:56

how does he not see that as a moral wrong,

27:59

yet it should be criminalized? And

28:02

so where's that line? Because we have some

28:04

laws that are clearly, I would

28:06

think the vast majority of people would say immoral,

28:09

like murder, uh,

28:11

but then we have other things that are clearly

28:14

not immoral, but I think

28:16

it's still good that they Are

28:19

laws, right? They're, they're made into a crime.

28:22

Like, right. I don't know. I mean,

28:24

there's a bunch of 'em. Like, we don't want people running Running red

28:26

lights. Running red lights, yeah. Yeah.

28:28

Jaywalking. Um,

28:31

there's a bunch, as you said, whatever's good

28:33

for society. It's

28:35

interesting though, what, where that line

28:37

is and what legislatures have decided

28:39

is not good.

28:42

It really is. And talking

28:44

about those people who don't conform,

28:47

it's really interesting when they come

28:49

along and try to move that line.

28:52

Yeah, yeah. Like, is the line

28:54

in the right place?

28:56

Yeah, absolutely.

28:58

Those kinds of conversations just fascinate

29:01

me. To talk about the

29:03

whys and the hows, and well,

29:06

who decided this, and should it

29:08

have been decided, and OK,

29:10

so it's been this way for hundreds

29:13

of years, thousands of years. Should

29:16

it be changed? I mean, think

29:18

about, think about homosexuality

29:21

being a crime, has

29:23

been for thousands of years.

29:26

And now that gets challenged.

29:29

I just thought of this, like in

29:31

my religious upbringing and I, maybe

29:33

it was this way for you, but you

29:35

weren't supposed to drink, no drinking,

29:38

no smoking either, because

29:42

there's a verse in the Bible that says

29:44

you're supposed to treat your body as a

29:46

temple, right? And I thought

29:48

about George, his mom

29:50

saying, came

29:52

home and he's treating his body like an amusement

29:55

park. But

29:59

that was the verse in the Bible

30:01

where you're not supposed to do anything like

30:04

harmful to your body. And I

30:06

remember even thinking as a kid,

30:08

well... We put other stuff in

30:10

our body that's clearly not good

30:13

for it, so what is that

30:15

line? I don't know, just, I just

30:17

thought about that.

30:18

Well, and that's why gluttony, I

30:20

mean, gluttony can be more than just

30:22

food. There you go. But, it certainly

30:25

applies to food, and being

30:27

one of the Seven Deadly Sins is like,

30:29

well, what if you're just morbidly

30:31

obese? What

30:34

have you done to your body?

30:36

Speaking of that, I need to watch the movie Seven

30:39

again. I haven't seen that in a long

30:41

time. It's a great movie. It is.

30:43

That is fantastic. Mess

30:45

you

30:45

up,

30:46

too. Yeah, no kidding.

30:49

Um, alright, last one here.

30:53

Have you ever had any paranormal

30:55

or strange experiences? that

30:58

you couldn't explain. Hmm.

31:02

I don't think so. I

31:06

don't really think I have.

31:08

I'll just say this upfront. I don't believe

31:11

I don't believe in, in ghosts.

31:14

I don't believe in spirits, none

31:16

of that stuff. I

31:18

think everything can be

31:21

explained somehow,

31:24

but there was one time

31:27

where I was at somebody's house.

31:30

And I had a friend

31:32

who was sitting at a desk

31:35

at a computer and

31:37

I was just standing behind him.

31:40

I don't know, I was doing

31:42

or whatever, but we had been talking and I'm just

31:44

standing behind him. And then

31:46

I hear a sound and it went like this,

31:51

like that.

31:53

And he, he turned around

31:55

and looked at me. And

31:59

I was like, what? And he

32:01

said, why'd you do that? I said,

32:04

I didn't do that. And then we both

32:06

freaked and we ran out of the room. So

32:09

I don't know, still,

32:11

you know, what in the world that was. But it was freaky.

32:14

You know, it was, uh, it was...

32:17

disturbing at the time,

32:19

but that's the only experience I think I've had

32:21

that would

32:22

qualify. Yeah. No,

32:25

I can't think of anything like that.

32:28

And I'm sure if something had happened, I would remember

32:30

it. I've always had, you know,

32:33

sounds or whatever that you wonder, what

32:36

was that? Where'd it come from? Why did that happen

32:38

right now? Whatever. But yeah, I'm

32:40

sure those things could have been explained

32:42

one way or the other. I think

32:45

one thing that disturbs

32:47

me From that standpoint

32:50

of, I don't know if spirit's

32:52

the right word, but if

32:54

you, if you think about like

32:56

uh, Einstein's

32:59

premise, energy

33:02

and mass are

33:04

interchangeable, then

33:07

what happens to the energy

33:10

that we have when

33:12

we're gone? Where does that

33:14

go? Good question.

33:17

All you got, our mass is

33:19

still here, but we

33:21

are more than just mass. We've

33:24

got that energy and what happens

33:26

to it? And I

33:28

think, well, could that energy

33:30

have hung around? Does it do something?

33:33

And I'm not saying I believe in that either,

33:35

but it's just been an open question to me.

33:38

Like. It's just what

33:40

happens and are we ever going to know?

33:43

Are we ever going to know? No.

33:45

Well, I say we, I don't mean

33:48

we like after we die, are

33:50

people on earth ever going to know

33:53

or are they, is there ever

33:55

any way that they could figure anything out

33:57

like that? Well,

34:00

okay. I'm saying no, but.

34:03

Who knows if humans

34:05

are still around in like 500 years, a

34:07

thousand years, who knows what advances they

34:10

will have made. And I, you know, I don't

34:12

know from what I know now,

34:16

I just, it'll forever be unknown.

34:19

Yeah. You know, and we've talked about

34:21

the talking about advances and

34:23

we've talked before about the

34:26

advances that we've had just in the last,

34:28

you know, 100, 150 years

34:31

compared to 150,

34:34

000 years before that. And

34:37

I think about, holy

34:39

shit, what advances

34:42

are there going to be just in the next

34:44

50 years, 100 years,

34:47

that's going to be so

34:50

exponentially more

34:52

than what we've done in this last 50

34:54

to 100 years. It makes me panic

34:57

to know that I won't get to experience

35:00

it. I know, yeah. That I wanna know.

35:02

Yeah, we're gonna miss out. Yeah, I wanna know, what

35:04

is it, what are we gonna be able to do?

35:06

What are we gonna have? I mean,

35:09

think about the people that died even

35:12

40 years ago. They

35:14

never experienced cell phones. I

35:17

know. And so, like, just

35:19

in that short amount of time, look

35:22

how the world has changed just from that

35:24

standpoint, and the internet, and computers,

35:26

and, and they didn't, even

35:29

40 years ago, they didn't experience

35:31

those things, and that scares the shit

35:33

out of me. Like, what are,

35:35

what are we gonna have that I don't know,

35:38

and I wish we had, and, it's

35:40

crazy.

35:42

I know it. It's troubling.

35:44

Well, hey, maybe there is something

35:46

after we're dead and we can just float around and

35:49

find out what's going on. Mess

35:51

with,

35:51

mess with people's technology. Well,

35:54

definitely. See? Is

35:56

that what's happening when your computer glitches?

35:58

You have to

35:59

restart your phone and God damn

36:01

it, it's another spirit.

36:03

I know.

36:08

Do you like spicy

36:09

food? I

36:11

do when I can stand it. And

36:14

standard as in, I want

36:16

it to be enjoyable. I don't like pain.

36:19

Yeah, I can handle a little bit

36:21

of spice. I don't

36:23

like sweating through my meal. I don't

36:25

want that. No. That's

36:27

a miserable experience. Not

36:30

to mention what it's going to do to you when it hits your stomach

36:32

and starts working its

36:34

way through tearing through your intestines.

36:40

That reminds me, have you seen the movie

36:42

Along Came Polly? No,

36:46

I haven't seen that one. It's got,

36:48

uh, it's got Ben Stiller and Jennifer

36:50

Aniston and Philip Seymour Hoffman

36:52

in it. Uh, and he's,

36:54

they're all good in it, but Philip Seymour Hoffman is

36:57

hilarious in it. But anyway, he's

36:59

uh, he's got, Ben Stiller's got Irritable

37:02

Bowel Syndrome, and

37:05

uh, he's meeting Jennifer Aniston,

37:07

Polly. And, uh,

37:09

she suggests the restaurant and he

37:11

wants to be, you know, he wants to, to

37:14

date her. He likes her. So

37:16

she mentions the restaurant and

37:18

it's called Al Hafez and

37:23

they show him and he's got this plate of

37:25

just shit, whatever. I don't know what it

37:28

is. And he's just pouring sweat

37:30

and he's just, his bowels are just

37:32

disintegrating. Discharging.

37:37

Yeah, they're going to discharge.

37:39

Um, and, you know what,

37:42

I just thought of this, uh, at

37:44

Thai restaurants, usually it's like this,

37:46

like they have different levels, like they'll ask

37:48

you how you want it

37:50

prepared, and like, one

37:53

is like the absolute hottest, and then usually

37:55

it goes to like three or four, but

37:57

there's, that's not a standard. I've been at

37:59

some Thai restaurants where I order three

38:01

and it's like nothing, and then I

38:03

order three at another one and I'm,

38:06

I got the whole sweat going while I'm eating

38:08

it, so, yeah.

38:09

Duh. Yeah, that's a frustrating

38:11

thing, but I always, anything like

38:13

that, I start on the low side. Yeah.

38:16

Better safe than sorry. I'd rather be

38:18

unhappy with it because it's not spicy

38:21

enough than the other way around. Definitely.

38:24

The reason I ask is because

38:26

we now have a new Guinness record

38:29

for the hottest pepper

38:32

in the world. Well,

38:34

that's what we need. Yeah,

38:36

I know, yeah, that's exactly what we need. The

38:38

previous record

38:40

was the Carolina Reaper

38:43

pepper, and,

38:45

uh, peppers are measured, I guess anything

38:47

spicy is measured in Scoville

38:50

units, have you heard of those? Yeah.

38:52

That's, yeah, so. That's

38:55

how you measure how spicy something is,

38:57

and I'm not exactly sure how they do it, but whatever.

39:00

Uh, the Carolina Reaper

39:02

pepper was 1.

39:04

64 million Scoville units.

39:07

Mm hmm. This new pepper

39:11

is 2. 693

39:13

million. Oh

39:14

my gosh. Yeah.

39:18

Just for comparison, a

39:21

jalapeno... Is

39:23

between 2, 000 and 8, 000, which

39:31

I can eat, I

39:33

can eat a jalapeno maybe two

39:35

at a meal. And I'm talking about

39:37

just a slice, of course, not the whole damn

39:39

thing. But I

39:41

can eat a couple of those and I'm, I'm okay.

39:44

Like I do need to like drink

39:46

some water, eat some chips or whatever when I

39:49

do it. I can't imagine putting something

39:51

that hot in my

39:52

mouth. I can't either. And

39:54

I don't even understand why.

39:57

Why would you? I,

39:59

um, I ate something

40:02

one time that was called

40:04

Satan's Blood. Oh,

40:06

Jesus. And I

40:08

don't know, I think I looked

40:10

it up one time after that, and it was some

40:14

insane number on the scale,

40:16

but it was,

40:19

I was at work, and this guy

40:21

came in to me and said, Hey, we've

40:23

tried this. Do you want to try it? Well,

40:25

his face was red and his eyes

40:27

were kind of watery. I

40:29

was like, okay,

40:32

I will. And so I go over

40:34

there and they had little salting

40:36

crackers and they put a dot

40:39

of it in the middle of the

40:41

salting cracker. And I was like,

40:43

wait, really? That's it? That's what

40:45

caused. You to have

40:48

the problem that you did. He was like, yeah,

40:51

okay. So I ate

40:53

it and right

40:56

after I ate it, I started

40:58

tingling. And

41:00

then for me, when I eat

41:03

something hot, the top of my head

41:05

gets hot, you know, like you're going to sweat.

41:08

But it's like a chimney. So,

41:12

I started getting hot and

41:14

needless to say, it escalated

41:17

from there. But I found out

41:19

when I was about five minutes into

41:21

it. My face was red,

41:23

I had tears running down my face.

41:26

I was drinking, I

41:29

don't remember if we had milk. Subpar

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41:34

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41:37

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41:40

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41:48

It had already been 15 minutes.

41:50

Oh, so I wasn't seeing the

41:52

worst of it. Oh man.

41:54

Oh my God. It got so

41:56

bad. That's horrible.

41:59

Yeah. How long did you feel

42:01

it? At its height?

42:03

About 15, probably

42:06

15 to 20 minutes. And

42:08

then I know I continued feeling it after

42:10

that, but after that it was like, OK,

42:13

I can deal with this. There was a

42:15

time where I was like, what

42:17

the hell am I gonna do? How

42:19

do you ride this

42:20

out? So,

42:24

Ed Curry is

42:26

the guy who invented this. He is the founder

42:28

of Pucker Butt Pepper Company

42:32

in South Carolina. Um,

42:35

he's describing, so Pepper X

42:37

is, uh, the name of this new pepper. He's

42:41

describing eating it. He said, quote,

42:44

There's an intense burn that happens immediately.

42:47

Then your head kind of feels like, oh no,

42:49

what's going on? And then your body

42:51

just starts reacting. You get it in your arms,

42:53

you get it in your chest. It

42:56

has no real throat burn like the

42:58

Reaper, but that comes on later

43:00

when you're in pain.

43:04

Later. That's, that's

43:06

what you need is just to have it worse

43:08

later.

43:09

Yeah, exactly. So, with

43:11

your thing, I think that would freak

43:13

me out as much as the pain itself

43:16

is how worse,

43:18

how much worse is this going to get and how long

43:20

is, am I going to have to deal with it?

43:23

That's what I was afraid of. So,

43:29

I came across this article. Those

43:31

called Texans that

43:34

are unique to the Lone Star state.

43:37

Alright, so we have our

43:39

opinions about Texas.

43:41

Yeah, this isn't really gonna make it much

43:43

better. You know, I've taken those

43:45

quizzes before. Maybe you have too. Like

43:47

how Texan are you? And

43:49

I'm not very at all. Like I just,

43:52

I don't, I definitely don't check all the boxes

43:54

when it comes to the Texas stereotypes, but I'm

43:56

interested in this list. Yeah.

43:59

I've said very few of these, but it

44:01

is interesting. All right. So

44:03

the first one. Is all

44:05

hat, no cattle. Oh

44:07

God. Yeah. I've heard that. I

44:10

hate that. Yeah. Yeah.

44:11

So that's just like, you're talking

44:13

a big game and you've got nothing to back

44:15

it up.

44:16

It's like all bark, no bite. Yeah.

44:19

Yes, exactly.

44:21

I've heard it plenty. I say plenty.

44:24

I don't know. How

44:26

have I come across it? Because people

44:28

that I know

44:30

personally don't say it. I've probably

44:32

heard it more on like a show

44:34

or something. I've heard, uh,

44:36

yeah, I've heard like politicians

44:39

say that. Like, I know Texan

44:41

politicians love to throw that around because

44:44

it shows how Texan they

44:46

are. Yes. They're trying

44:48

to out Texan their opponent or whatever.

44:50

Right.

44:53

OK, the next one, Bless Your

44:55

Heart. Now, it

44:57

made a distinction here about that

44:59

because that is also just a

45:01

generally a southern phrase,

45:05

but it was pointing out That

45:08

the Texan version of

45:10

it, different than just the,

45:12

the Southern part, is

45:14

more of the, the jab

45:17

at somebody, like derogatory,

45:21

it's like a, bless your heart.

45:23

If you say it in just the Southern way,

45:26

it's like, oh, you poor thing. Like

45:29

you're, you're kind of taking pity

45:31

on them. I

45:32

always took that to mean, uh,

45:35

at least when I heard it, um, not

45:38

necessarily taking

45:40

a jab at somebody, but more or less

45:42

saying. This

45:44

is all I'm going to say about that, and I really don't

45:46

give a shit, either way, what's going on

45:49

with you. So, bless your heart.

45:51

Like, that's, and then that's it. Like,

45:53

whatever. That's kind of how I took

45:55

it. Yeah. And I think, yeah,

45:57

so, this says, bless your heart, can

46:01

mean an expression of pity, like,

46:03

I'm sorry to hear that. However,

46:05

half the time it's used as a condescending,

46:07

two faced sort of insult. For example,

46:10

if a Texan meets someone rude, boastful,

46:12

or otherwise entirely out of touch, The

46:15

person might have a slow head shake

46:17

and a bless your heart coming their

46:19

way. I've never heard it used

46:21

that way.

46:22

That's funny. Well, it's kind of like a,

46:25

wow, you poor, you poor bastard.

46:27

Poor bastard. Yeah. Yeah.

46:31

All right. Third one is Coke.

46:35

And I didn't know that that was so much

46:37

a Texan thing as it could be a Southern

46:39

thing, but

46:40

I thought that was more Southern.

46:42

It says, although Texans seem,

46:44

tend to say Coke, they don't always mean

46:46

a Coca Cola, cause it could refer

46:49

to a carbonated beverage.

46:53

So obviously, we

46:55

go ask for a Coke, and what's

46:57

the common thing that'll come back to you

46:59

is Pepsi OK. Pepsi OK.

47:01

Yeah.

47:01

So there's that. Yeah.

47:07

Um, alright, the next one, number

47:09

four, is corn fed.

47:12

Oh, I've heard that, yeah. People in

47:14

Texas may refer to corn eating

47:17

horses or corn fed boys.

47:19

I've heard that. Talking about

47:21

people, we're talking about people, right?

47:25

Yeah, just, uh, not too long ago,

47:28

we were behind a car. that

47:30

had an Iowa license plate. And

47:33

I asked my son, I said,

47:36

look, uh, do they look like they're from Iowa? And

47:38

he said, well, what does a person from Iowa look

47:40

like? I said, well, they're going to be white

47:42

for sure. And they're, they look corn

47:45

fed and he laughed you guys. So what

47:47

does that mean? I said, well, they're going to be, you know,

47:49

kind of beefy, hardy looking like.

47:51

Yep. So this says,

47:54

corn fed boys, which tends to

47:56

mean that the person or critter

47:59

in question is big, tall,

48:02

buff, broad shouldered men are

48:04

often referred to in this way. Yeah.

48:07

There you go. There you

48:08

go. All right.

48:10

Number five. Fixin

48:13

to. Oh

48:14

yeah. Yep. I said that

48:16

growing up, but I've, I've long

48:18

since ditched that from my vocabulary.

48:21

I'm not sure if I've completely

48:23

ditched it. I would kinda like to think

48:25

that I have, but I would have, other

48:28

people would have to tell me. I don't

48:30

know if I still say that or not. I'm

48:32

gonna pay attention now. Alright.

48:36

Alright. I'm fixin to say number

48:38

six. Alright,

48:42

this one is, is kinda funny.

48:44

You'll, you'll hear it. It's

48:47

J E E T, J

48:49

E T, as one word.

48:52

Jeetjet? Jeetjet? That's

48:54

a question. Oh, jeetjet. Yes, did you eat yet?

49:00

That's a, that's a little extreme,

49:03

but yeah. That's when I would shake my head and say, bless your

49:05

heart.

49:06

Yep, exactly. You can't

49:08

talk,

49:08

right? Can you? Did

49:09

you eat yet? Did you eat yet? Yeah.

49:12

Yeah, that's, that one's rough. I

49:15

definitely don't do that. I run

49:17

it together. I mean, everybody runs

49:19

words together. Yeah. I'd

49:22

say, did you eat? Did

49:24

you eat yet? Jew, Jew.

49:26

Yeah. Jew, J E W.

49:31

Okay, it also mentions

49:33

this as a, kind of a corollary

49:36

to it, um, the phrase

49:38

may be fall, may be shortly

49:40

followed by squeet, or

49:43

squeet, squeet, squeet,

49:45

squeet, oh no, I don't

49:47

run that together. Jesus, that's

49:49

terrible. Somebody said that

49:51

to me. I'd ask

49:52

what? Yeah, what the fuck

49:55

are you talking about? Alright.

49:59

Uh, the next one, what I think

50:01

this is number seven, might,

50:04

could, the

50:06

phrase, might could in a Texas

50:08

conversation is one of those slang

50:10

terms that are actually longer than

50:12

the original. When a Texan

50:15

says, I might

50:17

could get that done or

50:19

I might could do it. The phrase

50:22

is a stand in for maybe,

50:25

like, maybe I could, I

50:27

might could get, I might could, I

50:29

don't say that. I don't

50:32

either, I don't think I've ever heard that, Micah.

50:34

You know what I have heard though? Used

50:36

to could. Oh, yeah.

50:38

It's something you can't do anymore, but I used

50:40

to could. I used to

50:42

could.

50:44

It sounds so stupid when you bless

50:47

your heart like that. Right,

50:48

right there. Yeah. OK,

50:53

so this is one I'm sure I've heard, but

50:55

I don't think I really knew what it meant. Panhandle

50:58

rain. Do you know what that

51:00

means? I've never heard

51:01

that. No. All right, so

51:04

it is referring to the panhandle

51:06

of Texas, so we're talking far

51:08

northwest, Amarillo, Lubbock,

51:10

all of that. It is referring

51:13

to the dust

51:15

storms that they get. Oh,

51:18

wow. OK. The massive dust storms

51:20

that come through is panhandle rain.

51:23

I've never heard that. I

51:26

have heard the term, but I didn't know what

51:28

it referred to. And then

51:30

here's some other things. This is funny.

51:32

It says, I've heard this before.

51:35

It's so dry I'm spitting cotton.

51:37

Oh yeah, I've heard that. Heard that

51:40

one. Many times, yeah. Um, that's

51:42

a real toad strangler. I've

51:44

heard it as a frog strangler. I've

51:47

never heard that. Referring to

51:49

a, a downpour of

51:51

rain. Oh, OK. Just so

51:54

much rain it would strangle a frog

51:56

or a toad. Huh. Okay. Uh,

51:59

this is funny. Hotter than a honeymoon

52:01

hotel, referring

52:03

to hot weather. I've never heard that.

52:07

Cold as a cast iron commode,

52:09

referring to cold weather. I've

52:12

never heard that. But it paints

52:14

a picture, doesn't it? Yeah. That'd

52:16

be damn cold. Have

52:18

you heard the expression colder than a witch's

52:21

tit?

52:22

No, wait, I don't think

52:24

so. I've

52:25

heard that. I heard that in a movie.

52:28

Yeah. I don't know what that comes from. I've heard

52:31

that in a couple of movies, one from

52:33

when I was young and then I've

52:35

heard it again

52:37

since, and I don't know, I don't know where

52:39

that comes from. What the hell it means.

52:42

I Why is a witch's tit cold?

52:44

I don't know. That doesn't sound good. Uhuh,

52:48

do you know something I heard on the office

52:51

and I can't believe that this

52:53

was on tv, honestly.

52:55

Now that was a nine o'clock show,

52:58

so they definitely got away with

53:00

things on there that they couldn't

53:02

have at like seven or eight. But

53:05

you remember, um, so

53:08

what's his name? He's the, the sales

53:10

guy who was not on there very much,

53:13

but he was the, the nasty.

53:16

He was the one, Todd Packer, Todd Packer,

53:19

yeah, he, there

53:21

was a Halloween episode and he said

53:23

something about why witches

53:25

didn't wear, didn't

53:28

wear panties or underwear or

53:30

whatever he said is so they can grip

53:32

the broomstick.

53:37

I remember that line now.

53:39

I was like... Holy shit,

53:41

how'd they get away with that? That's

53:44

funny. Yeah? Uh

53:47

huh. OK,

53:50

so number nine on the list is

53:53

tank. What do you think of

53:55

when you hear tank? So,

53:59

and we're talking Texas, so not

54:02

just your common.

54:03

I think a tank is

54:06

if it's used, I think

54:09

what's going to be on this list is a tank is

54:11

like a small pond on a farm. A

54:13

tank. Yep. Yeah,

54:14

that's it. Yeah. It says

54:17

is known in Texas as a pond,

54:19

usually man made used for watering

54:21

cattle. Yeah. The

54:24

tank, that's, yeah, that's how I know it is. Like

54:26

it's where the cows would drink from. Right.

54:30

It says tanks are also used for

54:32

fishing and occasionally swimming.

54:36

That's horrific to

54:38

me. Yeah, I know that's, that's

54:41

worse than a lake.

54:43

I know it. Who knows what's gonna be in

54:45

a tank? No,

54:46

that's just on a farms standing water

54:48

that cows have been into. And yeah,

54:51

you're gonna have snakes and who knows what

54:53

else? Yeah,

54:55

when you said tank, at first

54:57

I thought you said taint.

55:05

That was, uh, that was another

55:07

thing that was on the office.

55:10

I had to look this one up.

55:13

Grundle? Rundle?

55:16

Grundle. Oh, Grundle.

55:18

Yeah, do you know that? I don't know what that

55:20

is. No. It's like, taint.

55:23

I had never heard it. Michael said it

55:25

about Toby. Said something

55:28

was worse than Toby's Grundle.

55:30

It's like, what is that? And

55:32

then, it's like, what the

55:35

fuck? Grundle

55:38

sounds like a name. Sounds like the name of

55:40

a witch. Yeah. He called tits

55:43

wrinkles. Wow,

55:47

I don't remember that. That's funny. OK,

55:50

and number ten, that's a whole

55:53

nother can of worms. Yeah,

55:55

I've heard, I've heard that. And,

55:58

and does it actually say nother? Another

56:01

people say

56:02

another. Yeah. Whole nother can

56:04

of worms. You hear her Just

56:06

a whole other can of worms. I

56:08

have said that other, not

56:10

another but that's

56:13

a whole other can of worms. It's kinda like

56:15

we don't need to go there. That's open

56:17

up a whole different

56:19

subject. Yeah. We'll deal with that

56:22

later.

56:22

Yes. Off the table

56:25

it says. Refers to

56:27

a tangent or something

56:29

entirely different from the topic

56:32

at hand. Yeah. Hearing

56:34

that in a conversation may be a good cue

56:36

that someone needs to get back to the main subject.

56:42

That's interesting. So a couple

56:44

of those I've never heard before or a few,

56:47

but

56:47

no, I, yeah, it was a

56:49

little educational to me too. Maybe

56:52

that's because, you know, as you said,

56:54

many times, Dallas is different.

56:57

Right. And this is where we grew

56:59

up. So, I could see

57:01

some of those things being more

57:04

classic, stereotypical

57:07

Texas. And that would probably

57:09

be more like West Texas,

57:12

Southwest Texas. Yeah.

57:15

Yeah. I agree. So much more common

57:17

there. All

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So what did we do? We answered questions.

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We had some good questions.

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I

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59:07

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59:09

uh, the hottest pepper in the world,

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Pepper X. Pick one of those

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It's gotta be, it's gotta be plenty.

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It's

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