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Brought to you by the all New Toyota
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Corolla. Welcome to
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Stuff you should know from House Stuff
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Works dot com.
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Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm
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Josh Clark, and there's Charles Bryant
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Chuckers. You might know him. An Sure, there's
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a w in there somewhere at sure for the
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Wayne. Yeah, named after Wayne
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coyn Right,
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No, we talked about that before. Yeah,
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John, Wayne, how are
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you doing. I'm great, man, Um,
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I am all over this
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NASA activity. Oh yeah,
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yeah, good because it seems
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like i'll we hear about NASA these days is how they're
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having to shut down uh
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space programs, Right, that's
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the other stuff is cool. Well, that's the impression
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I have is that they're kind of taking their
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um, their field of vision
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the mountain to outer space and turning
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it planet word towards Earth. Why
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not, That's where all the people are that
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are buying Big Max. Right. Well,
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if if space exploration is
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going private, you got the
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Elon Musk's and the
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Richard Branson's of the world saying we
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got this, NASA, you go
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do something else with all of your high tech remote
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sensing equipment, then it
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makes sense that NASA would say, Okay, we'll
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become the watchdog guardian of
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the planet. And that's what they've they've
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become. Plus, also, if you're the United
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States using NASA's remote
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sensing equipment on Earth, is a dynamite
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cover for intelligence gathering? Well
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yeah, I mean you have all sorts
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of satellites carrying out different functions,
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but really all of them are taking pictures
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of the Earth, highly
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detailed ones too. You want
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to know about Russian troops formation
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as NASA yet
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of volcano? Sure? If
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you want to know what kind of sand way? Uh,
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Julian Assange had today, asked
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NASA, Well, that's NASA. Everyone
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knows that what Juna fish is, That
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what his thing is. Sure every day,
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that's how he keeps his white main white.
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Him and Michio Kaku. Yeah,
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the white mullet. Actually it's not so
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mellody. It's just more of a main main
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for sure. Both of them have a main, a
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big helmet of hair. So chuck
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um. But I
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guess the question we've posed today I
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feel like we need to answer is can
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NASA predict natural disasters?
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I think we can go ahead and answer and say not yet. Right,
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But now that again, they've
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kind of mothballed space
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exploration to an extent. I mean
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we're still hitting Mars. Yeah, yeah, we're not. They're
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not mothballing it, but they're they're they've
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reached the point where they're like, Okay, we've got all this really
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good equipment, let's start monitoring Earth
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a little more because there's a lot of questions we have.
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Um. Now, they've reached this point where
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since the beginning of twenty one century, they've started
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conducting missions. They have planned ones that are
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just being started now, some
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that are coming in the next couple of years, and from
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all this data they'll be able to analyze
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it and start to be able to predict natural
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disasters. So they have this whole
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like toolbox. I guess if you wanted
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to go into like corporate buzz speak of
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of programs and missions that they're carrying
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out that will help them predict natural
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disasters pretty soon. That's right, not
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the low hanging fruit, right, they're
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just trying to reach out and play together with
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the Earth in the same in the same space,
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in the same space. Maybe Java storm
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boy at the corporate talk, Yeah,
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we shunned that at all costs here, Um,
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all right, so let's talk about this. We talked about remote
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sensing. That is UM
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basically detecting energy reflecting
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from something UM when
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it's pointed out in space, like when you're
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looking for new planets, it's
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pointed out in space. When you pointed on Earth,
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it's a heck of a lot closer, right,
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And to get more detail. And they're they're using
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different kinds of UM detectors.
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They're detecting different kinds of energy I should say,
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like microwave, radiation, X
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rays. It's not just like using
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your peepers. That information
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can be translated into something we use our peepers
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to look at, but for they can
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use this equipment to sense all sorts of different
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stuff. Yeah. And like you said, it's UM. It's
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like mounted on aircraft or it's part of
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a satellite or is a satellite and
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um, yeah, it's all up. They're looking
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back at you right now, yes, the wave.
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Yeah, or it's looking at the Earth where
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we're just the insignificant tiny
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specs crawling around on the Earth. Yeah.
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And this is this is a kind of a big deal. You
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know, it makes sense, it's sensible what they're
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doing. It's a smart thing. To do with NASA's
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department, but it also
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really is, um, we're
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at the threshold of like a really big
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change in our understanding
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of our planet, you know, Like I think there's
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kind of a lot of assumptions that people make about
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our understanding of the planet that are just totally incorrect.
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Like, for example, I would have guessed
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that meteorologists and climatologists
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knew how tropical storms
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form. They do not, uh,
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And from using things like well,
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there's actually a project that was carried out
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in the summer of two thousand ten UM
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that was dedicated to studying
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this is called grip genesis
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and rapid intensification processes.
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And for a couple of a couple of
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months, some NASA scientists flew around
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on a Gulf Stream jet and took
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really precise measurements of what
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they believed were the beginnings of tropical
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storms to see how they form exactly.
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Yeah, And the goal with pretty much everything
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that we're going to talk about today is early detection.
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Because you can't stop a hurricane,
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you can't stop a volcano or an earthquake.
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But like the old saying, that's right,
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but if you know it's coming, then you
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can get people out of
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the way. You can thwart some of
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them to some degree. Yeah, Like anybody can
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point to a hurricane be like, oh, there's a hurricane.
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By then it's a little too late. If you can point
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to the very beginnings the
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cradle of the hurricane, the formation
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of a tropical storm. Now you're talking
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about time that you have to warn
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people, like you, guys need to get out of here. Yeah.
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And there is one really cool program they've had
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going since two thousand two called
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GRACE. There's gonna be a lot of acronyms
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today, by the way, the UM
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the Gravity Recovery and Climate
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Experiment, this is my favorite one. It's
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it's really cool basically what they're doing.
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All right, Well, let's step back a minute. Let's talk about
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Newton. Okay, gravity depends
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on the mass of an object. In
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the case of polar ice caps, the
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mass is changing. So if the mass is changing,
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the gravity is changing. Right. So when
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when the polar ice caps melt
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and turn to water and then flow towards the equator,
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um they are
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often so big that they left
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it in depression on the
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Earth's surface. Once they're
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gone, that depression could be filled
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in the mantle can fill back in in the area,
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changing the mass in that particular
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part of Earth and hence changing the gravity.
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Right, Yeah, it's one estimate
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has between two thousand and ten and two thousand and eleven
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UM, the Greenland ice Shield lost
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two hundred and twenty four giga
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tons of mats. So
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not only is that going to change the land formation in the mass,
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it's gonna make the sea level rise
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at a rate of about point seven millimeters a year.
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That's going to change the makeup of the Earth. Um.
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And so they have a couple of buddies,
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Tom and Jerry that are
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in orbit satellites, twin satellites
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about a hundred and thirty six miles
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apart from each other. Do you know why they're called Tom and
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Jerry because they're chasing each other and then only they're
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on the same orbit exactly a polar
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orbit. Yeah, it's very cute. So they're constantly
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going from the North pole to the South Pole
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um as the Earth spins below
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them, right, that's right. And um
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they're taking they're they're
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taking measurements, two different types of measurements,
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but they're precisely separated from
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one another, and they're on precisely the same orbit,
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so they can. Really what they
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produce every thirty days is a full map of
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the gravitational field of Earth. Yeah,
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and they've Nanasa. They always work
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with other people, it seems like, which is a good thing to work
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with people around the world. But they worked with a
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company in Germany to develop UM
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an ultra precise distance measuring
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system that basically can
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measure within the precision what they say is one
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tenth of the width of a hair. That's
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pretty precise. Yeah. So basically these
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things are flying U and between
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the two they're measuring the distances and
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discrepancies between these two
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identical twin satellites,
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and that's information is being relaid back
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analyze. Yeah, because the upside of this is number
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one, the Earth is not a perfect sphere. We
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know that. I can't remember what we talked about that in
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oh maps. Yeah potato.
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Yeah, in the
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the the gravitational field is not
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perfectly round either. It's lower
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in some places, higher in other places.
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The force of gravity um. So yeah,
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it's formed what was
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coined the Potsdam gravity potato.
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And if you look it up now there's some pretty
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cool UM artists rendering of
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what the Earth's magnetic field looks like and
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as a three dimensional model. Yeah, it's
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very cool. Um, so check that out. And that's
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been updated dramatically
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in the last couple of years thanks to this GRACE
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project. Yeah, and the ultimate goal
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basically is to measure this
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gravitational field over time see
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how it's changing with kind of accuracy we've
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never had before, which will in turn inform
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us on climate related uh
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drunk right, I mean and
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and is it just a correlation between
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mean, like ice caps melting in a change in a gravitational
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field, or does that ice cap melting trigger
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that change in the gravitational field, which in turn has
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some other effects. So, um,
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there's a lot of I think understanding
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we can gain from knowing what the
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gravitational field is changing,
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how it's changing. Yeah, do you like using
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your GPS to get somewhere, Well,
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then this kind of information can go
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on to help GPS because basically
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it's just gonna improve the trajectories
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of these UH satellites
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and everything is just more specific. It's like a hundred
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times um
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more detailed than they've
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ever had before. So that's gonna
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help everything out from detecting climate change or
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temperature and in like potential
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hurricanes and stuff too, like getting
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you to McDonald's,
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right, you know, which is pretty important
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by the way, chuck. Um uh,
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the tropical storms. You want to how they think they
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form? Now? Um,
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well, I'm gonna tell you. So. The speed of
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waves on an ocean, um, if
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it matches the speed
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of the movement of some air
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above it, and an umbilical cord
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of warm, humid air can
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get into this little pillow sandwich.
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It forms this protective pouch
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and from there a convection
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current can start and form
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into a tropical storm, which can then form
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into a hurricane. That's what they learned
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from the GRIP program. Man, it seems like they
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would have known this stuff before then, you think,
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so, you know, but we're talking like two when
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they're I don't even think it's been
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proven. I think that that's what they think based on
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the data from the two thousand ten experiments. Yeah,
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aren't they still analyzing that stuff? Alright?
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I imagine like that's got to be a pretty
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good field to get into
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now and in the next like five ten years,
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analyzing NASA data.
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Yeah, and just anything to do with the climate probably
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anything, Yeah, things that's changing. It's gonna
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be gangbusters. There's a lot of money in the
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weather. Um.
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All right, so that's tropical storms and hurricanes.
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We didn't talk about the GPM project.
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Um. Yeah, that they're working with UM.
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NASA's working with Japan and
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they're NASA, which is called the
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Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency
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or JACKSON, and that
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is a Global Precipitation measurement
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and they are using satellites to observe
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all kinds of participation precipitation
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patterns all over the world. And
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basically, like before, we can only
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place these things in certain
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spots that were easier to get to, and you can't place them
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out of the ocean, and you can't place them in the
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andies because it's too rocky. This allows
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us to study the entire globe for
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the first time. So they're following they're basically
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tracking the movement of water around the planet
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on like a daily, seasonal, a
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yearly basis um. And
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what they hope to be able to gain from this it's a predict
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when floods happened, because apparently a major
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flood happens every day around the
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Earth. Yeah, and a lot
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of times those floods lead to landslides.
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We saw firsthand in Guatemala what happens when
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a landslide comes down. Remember, oh,
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yeah, we were standing there and they said,
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this is literally twelve feet higher than
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it was. Yeah, we were standing on the remains
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of a village that got caught in the middle
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of the night and they're like, there are people down
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there still. Yeah, you could still see the swath that
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have been cut through the jungle on the mountain side.
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Right. So they're hoping, okay, well, if we can figure
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out when a flood's coming, we can
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predict landslides in turns, So by tracking
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global precipitation, that's what they're
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hoping to be able to do with that. Yeah.
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They're also using uh
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L I d a R at the light R Surface
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topography system. This is my second
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favorite one, the list one UM,
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and they're hopefully going to be able to attract
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things like volcanoes, earthquakes, landslide
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us and erosion. But not wildfires.
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No, not wildfires. That's crazy talk.
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That is crazy talk. But it's the same thing as
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with tracking precipitation. As of
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two years ago, we had to physically
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put some sensor somewhere
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and there are places we just couldn't get to, and
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now that we have satellites, we can track that stuff.
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Same goes with this, like we used to have to
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be able to find a fault line, put
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sensors there and then monitor
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that um with with the list
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program. With leader UM,
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they're using lasers to monitor fault
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lines and find new ones that we didn't know were
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there before, track their movement,
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and then use those to predict earthquakes and then
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similarly predict volcanoes. So
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listen to this. Okay.
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The resolution now they have is five
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meter horizontal resolution with a precision
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of four inches. Previously,
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the best data we could get was thirty
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meter resolution with
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a thirty to foot precision,
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So went from thirty two to four inches. That's
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pretty good. They'd be like, give it take
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thirty two ft. Yeah, now let's give it take
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four inches with thanks to lasers, so
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they could possibly detect volcanic
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activity before it happens. Right, And the way that they're
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doing that, you would think, well, they're using thermal cameras.
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You'd be wrong. What they're doing is looking for land
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deformation. Apparently
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before a volcano goes off, that
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land around it literally deforms,
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it swells due to pressure. And
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since we are tracking topography
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now using this UM this program,
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we can say, oh, well that
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that crater wasn't three times
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larger than it is now like
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a week ago, maybe a volcan
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is about to go off. Uh. And
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it's not just volcanoes and natural disasters.
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They can also monitor erosion
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and top soil loss, basically anything on
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the Earth that's interesting they
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can like really accurately closely monitor.
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Now and this said
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two thousand sixteen, is it already underway?
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Um? No, it's two thousand
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thirteen. Chuck. Now
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that says it was gonna launch in two thousand sixteen, but it's
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already Is it already going Okay?
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I think it's launching in two thousand sixteen. Okay,
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so this is just the plan, you're right, Yeah,
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I know they have a lot of like this just started,
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like the UM I think it
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might have been the Grace Program
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started in two thousand two and it's been going
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on. It is the Grace Program, the one
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with Tom and Jerry. Right, Yeah, that was right,
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and it had its tenth anniversary in two thousand
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twelve. I think that might have been the first project
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like this and now NASA's throwing
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like everything into this stuff, and we're just
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at the at the forefront, at the very beginning
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of this kind of thing. This is a very timely episode.
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Frankly, it's actually um
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they have. In fact, I think these new probes are
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even newer than the List program, right
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that NASA is proposing to launch, the
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one we were just talking about with the volcano deformation.
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Yeah, yeah, um this is a pair
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of satellites that monitor little bitty changes
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in the surface. And um,
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I guess it's a funding thing because I don't think these
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two are even uh, I
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think they're still just like in the proposition phase.
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So I guess we should say, like then they will
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be doing this, this is coming yeah, and like this
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particular project. Yeah, and the precipitation when
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his launches in February of next year.
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So it sounds as though these things are already happening.
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But I think it's just like this is how it's gonna work.
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It sounds as though they're already happening because of
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us. The tents
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were using that's right, we're using present,
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we should be using future perfect. One
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of the problems with the satellites, though, is um
17:43
and with lasers, is clouds right?
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Because clouds get in the way. It's got to be
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a clear day to use most of this stuff. Hold
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on, I know you love talking about clouds. I
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do too. But before we go any further, what do you think
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about a message break? That's great? Okay,
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So back to clouds. They caused
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trouble with lasers and with satellites.
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Yeah, so that you gotta count on clear days.
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So it's not like these things are humming seven.
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Weren't you surprised finding out
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that clouds are still an impediment to lasers?
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No, I would have thought, like, I mean, the projects
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we're talking about, so like, gee, whiz, that
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can't cloud I thought
18:27
that. It just seemed kind of like, well, what are
18:29
you guys gonna do about that? Because that's a pretty big obstacle.
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Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, maybe
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they could have an anti seating
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program, Oh yeah,
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to disperse clouds. Nice. Um,
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so, chuck, NASA doesn't need
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to turn its back fully on space, like we
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said, it's still carrying out the
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Mars mission. Um,
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what was after that? Are they going to Saturn?
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I don't know, Saturn Uranus?
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Maybe they're they're
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exploring some moon I can't remember,
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remember it's what They haven't turned their back on space,
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and they don't need to because there's a huge threat
19:04
from space bearing down on us
19:06
constantly. That's right near
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Earth objects, which I feel
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like we should do a podcast
19:12
just on near Earth objects. If
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you want to get here then some
19:17
medium, go watch
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the movie Armageddon done. Although
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that is deep impact in armagedding. We're
19:25
both um, while fanciful,
19:28
not too far off, and that there are objects
19:31
that come near the Earth and we think if
19:33
we can detect them soon enough, that there is
19:35
existing technology now that can throw these things
19:37
off course. Right, and Earth is constantly
19:39
being bombarded every day about a hundred
19:42
hundred tons of material
19:46
like rain down on the Earth. We're talking
19:48
little particles, things that break up
19:50
in the atmosphere, um, mostly
19:53
like comment dust and stuff. Right,
19:55
Um, But there are
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uh NASA estimates about a
20:00
thousand objects
20:03
that could collide with Earth that are
20:06
kilometer or more in diameter.
20:08
It's point six two miles in diameter,
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and that if any one of these impacted Earth,
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which they do about every ten thousand
20:16
years, it would be what's called a global
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catastrophe. Actually, good news,
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buddy, that is every several
20:22
hundred thousand years, So
20:25
what comes down every ten years? About every ten
20:27
thousand years, asteroids um larger
20:29
than about a hundred meters could hit
20:31
the Earth and that would just be like a local
20:33
disaster. So it would be like a one the
20:35
size of a football field. Yeah, and that
20:37
I mean, that's not great if you're near it, but
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it's not like a what they would
20:42
call a global disaster, like the end of the world
20:44
type scenario. And that's one that's like a kilometer
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in diameter. Yeah, And it says every several hundred
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thousand years or so. I feel like, yeah,
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what are the chances that that's going to happen the next
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like forty years? I don't know, aren't we
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like on a when was the last one? It was
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about a quarter
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of a million years ago, wasn't it. I
21:03
don't know. Was it the one that formed the
21:06
chit club creator? I
21:08
don't think I've pronounced that correctly, but you know
21:10
what I'm talking about people who are familiar with that
21:13
or they do. But the point
21:15
is we need a lead time on the
21:17
stuff. Chee Club, the
21:19
Chicken Club. It's a there's an X in
21:21
there, but it's a. It's it's in Mesoamerica.
21:24
So the X is like a hawk. Oh, it's pronounced
21:26
cutulu. No, it
21:29
was close oak,
21:32
it's like that. But there's
21:34
a chi and I believe a club
21:37
afterwards. So I'm just gonna say, chee club
21:39
creator. But I think that was longer
21:42
ago than a hundred thousand years ago, that extinction
21:44
event. Yes,
21:47
okay, Well, the good news is if we have a
21:49
little bit of lead time, like a few years,
21:52
supposedly there are things that
21:54
we can do to knock these asteroids
21:57
off course, like what
22:00
one is. Using nuclear fission
22:02
weapons, you set it off and
22:05
the trick is you don't want to blow this thing up, no,
22:07
because then you might have a lot of problems.
22:10
Yeah, that's even worse. But um, it
22:12
would just set it off course. And even
22:14
if you set something off course by a few millimeters
22:17
over the course of years, that could be enough. So
22:19
it's not like they're looking to knock at miles away
22:21
or anything, although in the movies that's
22:23
how they do it. Yeah, and the movies that's how
22:25
they did do it. I think, of course, we may mind
22:27
them, which we talked about. Yeah, asteroid
22:30
mining, um and
22:32
tracking these things has actually become
22:34
something of a crowdsource thing. There's
22:37
NASA has this um All
22:39
Sky Fireball Network that
22:41
sounds so not real, yeah, but
22:43
it is. It's a real program they have where
22:46
they have cameras that are connected to the Internet
22:48
that are constantly filming the night sky.
22:51
Most of them are along the Eastern Seaboard.
22:53
We got one here in Georgia, yeah, and Alabama,
22:56
HASM, Tennessee. Um. They're
22:58
they're grouped in clusters. Um.
23:00
And actually, if you want to propose
23:03
your location as a place to
23:05
host one of these cameras, typically
23:07
they're like on schools or
23:09
things like that, Yeah, you can.
23:12
You can submit an application and if
23:14
there's there's really just like four criteria.
23:16
It's like there can't be a lot of light pollution
23:19
or a light nearby, and that rules me out.
23:21
You have to be able to um, you
23:23
have to be connected to the internet,
23:26
like a couple of a couple of other things.
23:29
Um. But it's it's like you can
23:31
get a camera set up and be part of
23:33
the All Sky Fireball Network. That's pretty
23:35
cool. I think the plan is to eventually have fifteen
23:38
of these in place, and
23:41
um, I guess tracking
23:43
fireballs, Yeah, which were good,
23:45
good things to keep TAM's on for sure, you
23:48
got anything else? No, that's all the news
23:50
about NASA. I
23:53
wish NASA would sponsor US man, that'd be awesome.
23:55
Yeah, talk talk about someone we could stump
23:58
for NASA. Yeah,
24:00
sure, let's let's do it. NASA.
24:02
What's your problem? You guys have deep pockets?
24:05
Yeah? Uh, let's see. If
24:07
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Oh do you hear that chime? Man,
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it's like two thousand nine? All
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right, dear guys and Jerry.
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It just got home from another eight hour car trip with my
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to the stuff you should know. Yeah, this
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moved to Atlanta, Kenna
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saw last August, and
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we make pretty frequent trips to our hometown of
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wonder if they know that you can fly there
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introduced me to the Podcas asked on her first trip down here, and
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I have to admit I didn't have much hope. I'm
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in long hours with Netflix, and he
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is a self tart programmer who loves biographies
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when he told me what the show was, I was thinking,
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great, I'm gonna feel dumb and bored. But we
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gave it a try. Anyway. I also have to
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one or two episodes, I told
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believe it or not. He's right, believe
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what I mean now, I recommended everyone.
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I can't even conceive of how we would
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