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Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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my name is Nol.

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They call me Ben. We're joined as always

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with our super producer Alexa's code name

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Doc Holiday Jazz. Most importantly,

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you are you.

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You are here.

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That makes this the stuff they

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don't want you to know. You

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know, as everybody is wondering,

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gosh, are the guys going to get political today?

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Because we sure love it when they do

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well.

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The uh, the uh, we see.

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Yeah.

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Former President Donald Trump, just by way

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of a cold open, had this

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trial about classified docs. It

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has been delayed indefinitely.

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I was going to get through the porn star bribery one

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first, right, you know, order

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of operations in all things.

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A slaughterhouse cleaning company

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just got fined for knowingly

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using child labor. Because

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apparently we're back in the early days of the industrial

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Revolution. They're just for cleaning

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it, Ben, just for cleaning it, Matt,

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They're they're fine. Was six

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hundred thousand and forty nine hundred

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and forty nine thousand dollars. So I

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guess justice or

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just us. That is an early

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hip hop shout out to very few people

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who recognize it.

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We got hip hop shout outs galore coming later on

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the episode too.

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Right today, we are diving

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into stories of brain

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worms. We're going to end

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with a meditation on something

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that's very important to a lot of us listening this

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evening. We're going to learn

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about, as you said, Noel, some

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hip hop updates. Does art

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imitate life? Does life imitate

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art?

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If?

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Sue to what degree? And before

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we do any of that, this

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is our cold open. Stay tuned, folks.

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Tornadoes

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and we've returned, and

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boy howdy are

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the winds spinning around and giving us

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some interesting things to talk about some terrifying

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things. In fact, I guess

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we can start with just the fact that

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tornado season this year is kicking

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off to be intense and

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dangerous and happening

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more eastward than it normally would.

3:16

Do you think they align that with the rollout of Twisters

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the movie coming soon to a

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theater near you.

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Natural Disasters is viral marketing?

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I think so before we could tell you, though, Matt,

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because we are an inter we do have

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an international audience. We are a global

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show. Is it true

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that tornadoes tend to occur

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most often in the US in

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a normal season, or is that a misapprehension.

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Well, tornadoes can't only occur

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in the United States, but they happen most frequently

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here, and for a long time. Historically,

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tornadoes occurred in the central

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part of the United States, a

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place that is known as Tornado Alley,

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although that ali isn't quite

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what it used to be, and it wasn't really

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true actually for the entirety

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of the existence of the thing called Tornado Alley.

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It's actually a much larger swath

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of the United States. So if we

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take a look at our US maps, especially

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if we live outside of it, look at

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this thing look at the center, really

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look at Oklahoma and the states surrounding

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Oklahoma.

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Well, it likes some flat right Like it certainly

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helps if it's a really flat part

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of the country.

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The plains are a really great place for

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these types of winds and storms

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of the things that create tornadoes.

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But the whole point here is that Tornado Alley

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is becoming much much bigger, and it's moving

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eastward. So if

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okay, we have to think about some meteorological

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stuff. Everybody winds, the

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prevailing winds that go across

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the earth above the United States,

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they move from west to east. There's kind of two

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of them that snake around a little

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bit, and those winds

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cause storms in general to

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move across the contiguous United States

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that same direction, from west to east,

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and generally tornadoes

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follow along parent storms. Like

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imagine just a giant thunderstorm,

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and then a tornado occurs with that little

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twisting wind of that cyclonic wind

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that begins high above the

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earth, and then as it moves down and it

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touches down on the earth, and that's how you get a tornado.

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Today we're going to talk about some weird stuff

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happening with those storms.

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The first thing we're going to talk about today that was

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strange occurred on April thirtieth.

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It's something called an anti cyclonic

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tornado. Guys, what do

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you think that is?

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Is it like a reverse tornado?

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Is it antimatter?

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Well?

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Yeah, I don't know.

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It sounds really scary though.

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Whatever it is, it's literally just

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a tornado that's spinning in the quote

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wrong direction.

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That's okay.

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So I was FROs right, I said, you're absolutely right.

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Okay, cool, you're absolutely right.

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Neither the wind.

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So most tornadoes that happened

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within the United States turn in a counterclockwise

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way, but an anti cyclonic

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tornado turns clockwise. That's

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all it means, guys. But it's only one

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to two percent of all tornadoes that

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have ever existed, at least that have been on

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record.

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Wait, so, if a tornado is turning clockwise

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sucks things into the eye, does

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the anti tornado push

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things outward?

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Kind of Nope, no functions

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in the same way.

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It's just very interesting turn it.

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So for many of us listening

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along this evening, the question

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would be, is it something related

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to hemispheres such that

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you know, toilets right, the

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anecdotes flush in a different direction

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in the southern hemisphere. Is there any sand

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to.

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That, Yes, the northern hemisphere.

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Cyclonic things like tornadoes

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do share this. So it's not just the

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United States, as anybody above the equator

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to the north, you're going to see these counterclockwise

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spinning storms. In the South, you're getting the others.

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But for some reason this undecided to

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be strange. But that's not the

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only thing strange about it. Not only was

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it spinning the wrong way, it came

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to an almost complete stop. Like

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imagine a huge storm moving

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across a tornado forms it touches

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down. Now instead of that tornado following

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along with the storm, the storm keeps

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moving, but that tornado just chills in one

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spot and wreaks havoc in one

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general area.

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A stationary twister.

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A stationary twister exactly,

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very very strange, very uncommon.

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It's a weird thing that occurred, right and as

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tornadoes are probably heavily in your

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news feeds with all of the craziness that's

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been going on at the end of April and

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starting into May, as we are guys in the

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middle of tornado season. It's

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gonna last another month or two. More

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weird things are happening with tornadoes.

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For example, the first ever tornado emergency

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on record in Michigan was just

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issued on Tuesday, as we're recording

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this on Wednesday, so that's

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Tuesday, May seventh, which

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is pretty crazy. It's the first tornado

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emergency on record for Michigan. That

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was That comes from the National Weather Service, the

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NWS, which is part of the NOAA,

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the National what is it, Oceanic

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and Atmospheric Administration.

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I think that's right, yeah, Noah

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for sure. Do you think they wrote it like they

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had the acronym because of the Noah and

8:24

the arc and the weather and all that, and then created

8:27

the things after the fact, or it was just a happy

8:29

coincidence that it spelled out Noah.

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Bob Ross happy accident.

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Okay.

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I love that because if it was, if it were

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on purpose, they would have added something

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like that's true pop, it's true hemispheric,

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you know, so with

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an h.

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Very nice, Oh guys, I didn't even

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mention. On that same day, on April

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thirtieth, there was another very

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odd thing that occurred almost

8:52

simultaneously as the anti cyclonic

8:55

tornado. There was a tornado

8:58

that instead of moving from west to east

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as we talked about which is the way they

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go. This one started moving

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that way from west to east and

9:06

then stopped and then turned around

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and went back on the same exact route

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that it had come from where it was

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spawned, So it like did

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a double whammy on the ground.

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Matt, I do have to ask you know, I saw a movie I

9:19

went saw Civil War in the theaters the other day, and the

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previews included a

9:24

preview for this new Twister reboot,

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Twisters in the spirit of alien and Aliens.

9:28

I guess it's time there two. But

9:31

they were like, weren't there two in the first one anyway?

9:33

But is there any truth to this idea of

9:36

like storm chasers and people

9:38

that like invent these weird things that could shoot

9:40

up inside the twister and get

9:43

photography or map them in

9:45

some way using like tech, Like I

9:47

just I literally all I know about this world

9:49

is what I saw in the movie with Bill Pullman

9:51

and the flying cows. I didn't know if you

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had run across anything like that in your research

9:56

on the topic.

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Well, yeah, if you go back to our Discovery

9:59

days and and just follow along

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with Discovery, they've got shows

10:03

about people who do that very thing, who

10:06

who build custom vehicles,

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customer drones.

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Things.

10:10

Got I got close

10:12

to uh riding in one of those

10:15

very weird vans, but

10:18

the satellite dishes and little BIPs and

10:20

bobs and yeah, yeah, just in rejected.

10:22

Yeah, there is some that's a

10:25

little bit uh, you know,

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move a fide right for a bit

10:29

embellished. But that stuff is real

10:31

and does exist. As far as my understanding,

10:34

I just had to to some degree.

10:35

But I just it's not my wheelhouse, y'all.

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O, you got no worries, man, do a search

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for something called Tornado Intercept

10:44

Vehicle one.

10:46

It is one of the most badass vehicles

10:48

you'll ever see. It's developed

10:51

so that it's a you know, a vehicle that travels

10:53

on the road with wheels, right, But then it's

10:55

got I don't even know, I

10:58

wasn't going to say buttressed sides, but

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it's got the edges that go

11:02

all the way down to the ground so it can kind

11:04

of sit down on the ground where

11:06

wind can't get underneath it and pick

11:08

it up the way a traditional vehicle would

11:11

be lifted.

11:12

Maximizing a lower center of

11:14

gravity is part of it, right, Oh

11:16

yeah, you want to have beat

11:18

me here, doc, You want to have a real on those

11:20

things.

11:22

In a way, what are tornadoes if

11:25

not kind of weaponized gravity? Am

11:27

I right? Hot take there?

11:30

Yeah?

11:30

Well yeah, yes, I

11:33

mean a lot of other

11:35

forces to weaponize,

11:39

just gravity.

11:40

Okay, I'm

11:42

clearly an expert.

11:43

What is crazy?

11:44

You know?

11:44

Storms in general, we don't think about them, maybe that

11:46

often we I think we all share maybe

11:48

a love of a good thunderstorm. Right,

11:50

we talked about that before, like when when there's

11:53

when there's electricity flashing

11:55

off above us and the power

11:58

of the sound waves that ripple through.

12:00

I don't know if there's something pretty dope

12:02

about that.

12:03

Oh, it's intense. It's intense,

12:05

and it really makes you, I mean not to sound cliche,

12:07

but realize how small we are,

12:10

how we're all just sort of somehow,

12:12

you know, hanging on to this spinning rock

12:14

and could be sucked off into space at

12:17

any moment or you know, set

12:19

on fire. Right, yes, solar

12:21

rays, yes.

12:23

I guess on behalf of the audience again,

12:25

what gives is this a

12:28

break from previous patterns?

12:30

It it appears to

12:32

be so, and if so, do meteorologists

12:36

have a conclusion on as to why

12:38

this might be occurring? Oh?

12:39

Yeah, they said, who knows ah, and

12:41

then they got in their storm shelters just like the rest of

12:43

us did. No, They've got a bunch of ideas

12:46

about what's going on. A lot of it has to do with

12:48

change record heat levels. We're

12:51

on track to have the second

12:54

hottest basically period during

12:56

a tornado season. There's all

12:58

kinds of really interesting information. If

13:00

you want to look it up, you can. You can find an article

13:02

from fizzorg titled what's with

13:05

the recent wild tornadoes? Experts

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way in. Lots of good information

13:09

in there. But the weather experts

13:12

over at Acuweather are predicting that

13:14

there will be somewhere between twelve hundred

13:16

and fifty two one three hundred and seventy

13:18

five tornadoes across the USA

13:21

in the year twenty twenty four. And

13:23

you know, we're just inside the season

13:25

right now, but it's definitely above

13:28

the historical average. And you

13:30

can check out some places where gosh,

13:33

the record number of tornadoes in

13:35

April, or like the historical

13:37

record number of tornadoes in April. I think

13:39

we hit number two this past April

13:42

with around three hundred storms

13:44

that produced tornadoes or three hundred tornadoes

13:46

that were produced in storms. Guys

13:49

I didn't realize that in twenty eleven

13:52

there was an historic outbreak

13:54

like number one with a bullet on there,

13:57

and it had over seven hundred

14:00

tornadoes in April.

14:03

So it's just getting worse every year progressively,

14:05

is what you're saying.

14:07

No, no, no, twenty eleven had

14:09

over seven I'm sorry, this year had around

14:11

three hundred.

14:12

Oh I'm sorry. I what's the deal with

14:14

predicting twelve fifty to thirteen seventy

14:17

five?

14:17

Okay, so I'm talking about just the month

14:19

of April here, Okay, got you got, you got your and

14:22

Aci Weather's talking about the entirety of the tornado

14:24

season.

14:25

So all the April is typically a

14:27

stormy month, right, I mean it's sort of a wet,

14:29

a wet month.

14:30

April is the cruelest month, said

14:33

Selliot.

14:34

Well, you know it's fun. I don't know if you guys think about

14:36

this, but like when I picture sort

14:38

of a scorched earth, barren apocalypse

14:41

world, I often picture unhinged,

14:44

chaotic, deadly storms

14:46

raging at all times. You know,

14:48

And maybe that's something that I've picked up from sci fi

14:51

or whatever, But you do have to wonder if

14:53

this is going to escalate? Is this going to be the

14:55

kind of thing. This is going to be a new problem that we

14:57

have to contend with. And like, figure,

15:00

okay, oh geez, we've got another deadly,

15:02

you know, tornado that's coming out as a better kide

15:05

in our bunkers or whatever.

15:06

Well, shout out to hurricanes, right, Shout

15:09

out to the people getting

15:11

priced out of Florida and parts

15:13

of the Gulf because insurance

15:16

is increasingly not messing

15:18

with them. I think also

15:19

on one note that will be important

15:22

for people in the region loosely

15:24

known as Tornado Alley or however it becomes

15:26

defined in the future, is that it

15:29

seems like, and Matt correct me here if

15:31

i am If I'm off base, tornadoes

15:34

are clustering more often,

15:36

Is that correct?

15:37

Oh geez?

15:38

Yeah, Like, imagine one single

15:40

storm that rolls through that's huge, right,

15:43

that covers maybe a large part

15:45

of let's say, Alabama. Ben, what

15:47

you're talking about with clustering, it's like that

15:49

storm is producing multiple tornadoes,

15:52

and then they are also interacting in weird

15:54

ways, like they're getting really close to each

15:56

other. Those two weird

15:59

tornadoes that we talked about, the one that was spinning

16:01

clockwise and the other one that went back on its own

16:04

track. Those were that was the same

16:06

storm, and they were happening happening almost simultaneously

16:09

in the same part of Oklahoma.

16:11

WHOA, but bro, what happens if an anti

16:13

and a regular tornado meet?

16:15

Does it cause like a time space

16:18

rifts or like, I mean, that just seems like really

16:21

deadly equal and opposite

16:23

forces. I just wonder if that creates

16:25

something new or spawns something.

16:27

I don't know. I'm sorry if I'm this has got my imagination

16:30

running wild.

16:30

As you can sell unsure one day we

16:32

will find out. Uh yeah,

16:35

it does feel like a weird coincidence because

16:38

Twisters, the movie from Universal Slash

16:40

Warner Brothers, is getting a ton of press and doing

16:43

a lot of promo right now. So actually,

16:45

I mean, of course, right it's tornado season. Somebody

16:48

somewhere in a marketing room was

16:50

like, hey, this is great. Oh my god, you

16:52

see how many how many people are googling tornadoes

16:55

right now?

16:55

Yeah, we happened to the death and destruction.

16:58

Let's piggyback on that movie.

17:01

Yeah, but there are rumors and all kinds

17:03

of stuff going around that they're somehow related. Obviously

17:05

they're not pretty sure Universal

17:08

Pictures doesn't have a weather machine

17:10

unless they do, and if

17:12

you hear about that, please let us know. But

17:14

if you do want to pay attention to the weather around

17:16

you and what's going on this year, cannot

17:19

recommend enough that National Oceanic

17:21

and Atmospheric Administration NWS

17:24

site. It is SPC dot

17:27

NOAA dot gov, and

17:30

that is the Storm Prediction Center and it gives

17:32

you well in advance of

17:34

where potential storms would be. It's

17:37

a lot in the same way many of us would probably

17:39

use, like the Weather Channel app

17:42

or one of those any other weather app but

17:44

this thing is super robust and super

17:46

cool. Highly recommend. All right

17:49

with that, we are going to break

17:51

from these storms and we will be right

17:53

back with more strange news.

18:01

And we're back, as promised

18:03

with the hip hop Beef of the

18:05

Century, y'all, man, I wish

18:07

the century. I don't know. Maybe

18:10

I don't know. How's hip hop been around for a century.

18:13

This seems is a pretty big one, dude. I don't know, Tupac

18:16

it is.

18:17

It's approaching big levels.

18:19

I would thank you. Let's just

18:21

get there, because I feel like.

18:23

For anybody who doesn't who

18:25

is it read onto hip hop or a fad Nolan

18:29

sounds like you're talking about two very

18:31

specific people, Oh Absol.

18:32

Freaking lowly Kendrick Lamar and Drake

18:35

a ka Aubrey Graham,

18:37

which I didn't know until I started

18:39

following the story famously. You know, a

18:42

multi platinum, gajillionaire

18:45

hip hop artist. I

18:47

kind of hesitate to call him exclusively

18:49

a rapper an MC. I

18:52

think of him a little more as a singer sometimes than

18:54

a pop star. He does have rap chops, but

18:56

he also was revealed to have had ghost

18:58

writers, which is a big no no, a

19:00

big way of getting clowns in the hip hop community,

19:03

because the strength of your rap

19:05

abilities depends and your prowess

19:08

as an MC you'll you know, bend your

19:10

super student of hip hop largely

19:12

entirely depends on people

19:15

believing that the lyrics are coming from you

19:17

and they reflect your worldview and your

19:20

understanding and your wit and

19:22

your ability to turn phrases

19:24

and to you know, they call them ciphers because

19:26

if you read these things on paper, a lot of times

19:29

there's a lot of hidden meaning. And sometimes

19:31

these things are going past you so fast you got

19:33

to listen a couple of times to catch all of the little

19:35

nuances in there, so.

19:37

Struck a chord and it's probably a mind

19:39

or very clever.

19:40

So Kendrick Lamar, who I would definitely call

19:42

a rapper. I think he's one, you know, and you

19:44

know, I mean, maybe I'm showing my bias, but I'm definitely

19:47

team Kendrick here. I think he is probably

19:49

one of the best rappers of our generation.

19:52

He's clever, he's got that worldview.

19:55

He uses different interesting musicians

19:58

and production. I think to pimp Butterfly is

20:00

just like a fabulous record through and through.

20:03

Drake has some very catchy songs, but I would not

20:05

call myself a fan of his, and I would

20:07

not necessarily put them in the same caliber

20:10

with each other, but just the same Drake

20:13

who is mega, mega, mega famous. It has been for

20:15

a lot longer than Kendrick has been, though Kendrick is

20:17

mega famous now as well. Kind of gave

20:19

Kendrick his starting away by including him

20:21

on his Club Paradise tour

20:23

back in the like kind of mid ought to think

20:25

it was maybe twenty fifteen, and

20:27

also included asp Rocky, which

20:30

he was another star who was very big with

20:32

this Plant and.

20:32

Doc requires us to point out that Kendrick

20:35

Lamar literally has a pullet, so.

20:37

He does have a bullet. No

20:39

slouch, man, this guy. You know, if you listen

20:41

to Pimpa, Butterfly and then Good Kid,

20:43

Mad City, like, I mean, the guy's got

20:46

stuff to say. And I honestly,

20:48

sometimes when I'm listening to him, it's like

20:50

reading My Angelou poetry or something like. It's

20:52

incredibly stirring and moving

20:54

and it makes me feel away. Drake's

20:57

you know, it makes me feel a way too, but it's a little

20:59

more. It's like, oh, this is cute, this is fine.

21:01

I like that hotline bling or whatever. I

21:03

like God's Plan, That's a cool track. But point is, Drake

21:06

gave Kendrick kind of his start, and

21:08

ever since then there was a brief period where they were kind

21:10

of copastic, and then you

21:12

know, literally it's been raging going

21:14

on, gradually getting worse and worse for

21:16

about ten years. There have been these

21:19

like beefs, these kind of snipey back and

21:21

forth between them that at first were kind of more subtle.

21:24

We're sort of buried. You'd only know if you were a true

21:26

hip hop head and you were really digging for this stuff.

21:28

They get asked about it in the press. Oh was that

21:30

line meant for Kendrick? Was that line meant for Drake?

21:32

Et cetera. But something

21:34

happened, and I could tell

21:36

you what the timeline is. But there are people that

21:39

are more qualified to do this. If you look up on

21:41

YouTube Kendrick versus Drake, there are people that have

21:43

hour and a half long dissections

21:46

of the whole history of this stuff, going

21:48

lyric by lyric, pointing to exactly

21:50

who was talking about who, when and in what

21:52

song. I'm not going we're not gonna do that here,

21:54

but in the last I guess month

21:57

or so, it's just heated up to the point where now

22:00

it seems as though the

22:02

outcome of this could well be somebody

22:04

getting hurt in to

22:07

your point, been in Tupac Biggie fashion.

22:10

It is gotten to the point now where Kendrick

22:13

and Drake, Kendrick Lamar and Drake

22:15

are sniping at each other

22:18

so directly and with such

22:20

a level of kind of research and

22:22

like airing of dirty laundry. That's

22:24

not just the old school hip hop beef style

22:27

of you know, I've had

22:29

sex with your girlfriend or whatever, like

22:31

you're a terrible rapper, you know, whatever you got,

22:34

no no style,

22:36

whatever, you're a clowns. It's beyond that.

22:38

It's like Kendrick Lamar is openly

22:41

accusing Drake aka

22:43

or I guess Aubrey Graham aka

22:46

Drake of having a secret daughter,

22:49

of being a pedophile.

22:52

I mean, it's the hook of one

22:54

of his songs. It says, what

22:56

does you say? Certified lover boys, certified

22:58

pedophile And it's one of the most repeatable

23:01

parts of that song, which by the way,

23:03

is a stone cold banger and could actually

23:05

be played in clubs. It is a

23:08

dancy, fun song and

23:10

it's intense to what he's actually saying in it.

23:12

But it's called not like Us, if I'm

23:14

not mistaken, And on the cover art

23:17

that he put out on Spotify and all the streamers,

23:19

it's an aerial shot of Drake's house

23:21

in Toronto, Canada's compound

23:24

with these little signs, little graphics

23:27

that are used to mark sex offenders, where

23:29

sex offenders live all over the

23:31

property, like on the roof.

23:32

And this is this if true,

23:34

would not, for the record, would not be

23:37

the first time someone successfully

23:42

punked Drake a little bit. I

23:44

would draw the president to the earlier

23:47

pusher t push a t album.

23:50

Push came out with Story Addon, and

23:52

if it were not for the intervention

23:55

of a former guest on our show, Jay

23:57

Prince, Push would have continued

24:00

with that beef. So it's like it's

24:02

a long time coming. I think. No. Also,

24:05

the I don't want to derail us,

24:07

but I know the timeline. It's tricky.

24:10

I think for a lot of people. Uh,

24:12

the first foray in

24:14

this would be that that song

24:17

he did with Future metro boomen

24:19

on that we don't Trust your album.

24:21

But even before then, Kendrick Lebar

24:24

dropped like a god Verse on a

24:26

song called Control.

24:28

That's the one where he calls out as contemporaries

24:31

including j Cole, including

24:33

I think Tyler the creator, including

24:36

Walle and there

24:38

were maybe two or three others, but including Drake.

24:40

And but here's the thing. The funny thing about

24:42

that is Drake is kind of famously sensitive,

24:45

and all those other guys that

24:47

he dropped their names, they all took

24:49

it and try It's like it's the game, you

24:52

know, you got to talk, a big game. You gotta talk,

24:54

you know, have this swagger and but

24:56

but Drake is his interviewer. He's like, man,

24:58

I didn't think that was cool thought that was gonna mean.

25:01

I mean, I'm exaggerating a little bit.

25:02

I don't know.

25:03

I sounded

25:06

like a plunk, you know.

25:07

Yeah, did we talk about how this all started?

25:10

Well, that's the thing, though it's not entirely clear,

25:12

I know. And then the most tell me what you think, because

25:14

it really is it's along the

25:16

thing. The song we're talking about was back

25:18

in twenty eighteen or twenty sixteen,

25:20

I believe, right been the control.

25:24

They collaborated together, I think first in

25:26

twenty eleven. But

25:28

but yeah, what's the what's the.

25:30

Wors I'm looking at the Forbes article

25:32

that you posted in our in our dock here

25:35

and they go.

25:35

The most recent timeline. But the reason this is so complex

25:38

is there are little barbs and things trick you

25:40

know, kind of trickled, sprinkled throughout the

25:42

history of these two guys being in the public eye.

25:45

After they had a kind of a quiet

25:47

falling out, and then it seemed like for

25:49

years Drake kept trying

25:51

to like make nice with Kendrick and then also

25:54

do little things to kind of piss him off. But

25:56

Kendrick just seems to be just righteously

25:58

indignant, and it seems to know something

26:01

and was gonna be quiet about it, but then Drake

26:03

couldn't keep his mouth shut. But let's talk about the

26:05

current timeline, Matt, are you talking about the

26:08

First Person Shooter?

26:10

Yeah, Drake and j Cole doing

26:12

a collaboration called First Person Shooter,

26:15

And according to Forbes, j

26:18

Cole just says, Hey,

26:21

the big three at some point in this song,

26:23

I guess are himself,

26:25

Drake, and Kendrick Lamar. And

26:28

that seems like a positive

26:31

thing to me, I guess, but I don't

26:33

know.

26:34

Kendrick responded when he beat

26:36

me here, Doc, the big three is

26:38

just big me, which is very is

26:40

very hip hop.

26:43

It a million percent. But

26:45

again, I you know, Kendrick isn't

26:48

above that. That's part of the

26:50

game. It's part of like, you know, the way you establish

26:52

yourself as being the best. If that's truly what you're

26:54

interested in, you know, that's that's part

26:56

of it. He clearly is interested in that. But he's also interested

26:58

in political action. And know again, I really

27:01

think so much of Kendrick's work is like poetry,

27:03

you know, and hip hop, and it's its best

27:05

for him should feel like that, I think in a lot

27:07

of ways, but I do find it interesting

27:10

that that is

27:13

Jake Cole was part of this and that he

27:15

participated in that. And then he dropped

27:17

a disc track but then like deleted

27:20

it because he was like, you know what, y'all can

27:22

have this. I'm out, this is too

27:24

much for me.

27:25

I felt icky, basically is what he said.

27:27

He said it was goofy. And then later

27:29

leaks would reveal because people

27:32

often act hard, but we have to understand

27:34

a lot of them are just kind of gossipy

27:36

gusses. So word

27:39

came out of course that he

27:41

got. He got kind of

27:43

the equivalent of a school

27:45

shooter letter that says, hey man,

27:47

you were always nice to me. Don't go

27:49

to class tomorrow. And he pulled it

27:51

out and he said, Jesus, you know, I felt

27:53

like it was goofy. So shout out to j Cole.

27:56

It appears he made the right choice. He's

27:58

a he's a adominal

28:00

and see Kendrick is a

28:02

phenomenal mc drake

28:04

is a quite successful hops

28:06

and chainer, you know, and

28:10

j Cole, I like the picture of he's

28:12

somewhere with his family, you know,

28:14

he's by a beach, he's got his shoes

28:16

off, he's listening to Lo

28:20

fi instrumental beats to study

28:22

too.

28:22

You've got cucumbers on his eyes. You know, he's

28:25

living his best life.

28:26

Wait, Doc says he's literally

28:28

at the beach. A picture dropped on May

28:31

eighth.

28:31

That's fantastic and you love to see

28:33

that. And I gotta say, there is part of

28:35

me that's a little disappointed in

28:37

Kendrick to kind of get in the

28:40

mud like this. I always did sort

28:42

of think of him as sort of like being the

28:44

bigger man or whatever. But honestly,

28:46

if what he's saying is true, and

28:49

these are allegations, obviously we don't want

28:51

to get sued. We're not saying we know anything,

28:53

you know, unequivocally about Drake

28:56

being into little kids or whatever.

28:58

But like he's dropping these allegations.

29:00

He's talking too, like that. One of his responses

29:03

was like directed at one of Drake's

29:06

sons, like talking directly

29:08

to him about how your father is

29:11

trash and he is at war with himself.

29:13

And it's like deconstructing,

29:15

like Hannibal Lecter, making the guy on the

29:17

next cell swallow his own tongue

29:20

kind of stuff.

29:21

Talking to Drake's parents and a million

29:23

So there's also allegations

29:26

like okay, without getting

29:28

into into the discourse

29:31

here, because I know we're getting to the real life consequences

29:33

in a second right. The

29:36

Drake response to these

29:38

allegations. The primary grievances

29:41

on both sides are the allegations

29:43

that Kendrick Lamar because

29:46

why he assaulted his wife songs

29:49

like mister Morale or whatever. And then

29:52

there's also the idea that

29:54

Kendrick Lamar, we've never met either of

29:56

these individuals they are The

29:59

argument is that he is escalating

30:02

the long standing allegations

30:05

that the pop star Drake may

30:07

have been grooming children

30:10

sliding into DMS, as is

30:12

the parlance of our day, specifically,

30:15

I think stranger things.

30:16

Millie, Bobby Brown, there's

30:19

some unfortunate did

30:22

not age well, Hella it didn't look good that day.

30:24

It's bad news where he's I believe in

30:26

Canada and has a girl up on stage.

30:29

This is in his early days, and he's kind of,

30:31

you know, being handsy and fondling her

30:33

as part of his act sort of, and then he asks

30:35

old. She says she's seventeen, and

30:38

he sort of says, damn, like, you look

30:40

like that and you're seventeen. But then he continues

30:42

and apparently in Canada the age of consent

30:44

is seventeen. That's still freaking

30:47

gross and weird. I think he was like twenty three or

30:49

something. And he's

30:51

done a lot of damage to himself.

30:54

In one of his responses, he kind

30:56

of outs himself by dropping Millie

30:58

Bobby Brown's name, when Kendrick

31:00

never did that, and just saying

31:03

something to the effect of, I couldn't

31:05

be a pedophile. I'm too famous for that, and

31:07

if it was true, I'd already be in jail. Well,

31:10

we know that's not the case from any number

31:12

of situations where famous people have

31:15

carried on for a very long time doing

31:17

very horrible things. So he's either clueless

31:19

or I don't know, just it has no

31:22

sense of how that reads. Is really tone

31:24

deaf or the.

31:25

Other conspiracy And this is something

31:28

that was pretty common in forms at the

31:30

beginning. You know, a lot of rap

31:32

is just like wrestling, right, it's very k

31:34

faith.

31:35

So you got to be a heel sometimes, you know, Right.

31:38

So is there any sand in

31:40

your opinion nol to the idea that

31:42

this was orchestrated in

31:45

order to bring hip hop back to prevalence.

31:48

On say, the billboard charts are

31:50

in the AA.

31:51

Well, that's an interesting point, ben in speaking of the Billboard

31:53

charts. You know, when I think of rap beefs of

31:55

this level, maybe this is sort

31:58

of a modern rap beef because it's with the

32:00

age of streaming. This stuff can

32:02

be made available instantly. But

32:04

these songs are charting, you know, like in

32:06

a big way. Kendrick songs specifically.

32:08

I don't think any of drinks are, but Kendricks

32:11

are charting. And I believe the

32:14

one of them, the most recent one,

32:16

maybe it was Euphoria. He has four,

32:18

but it got let's see the

32:21

most. It's the most streamed song

32:23

by an American hip hop artist

32:26

in the history of Spotify. It's

32:29

got I think in a single day. I think it

32:31

did like seven million streams in a

32:33

single day. So that's a big

32:35

deal. But lasting to

32:37

your question, and then we'll move on to

32:40

some of the consequences and then and then hit a break.

32:42

But I was thinking that too.

32:44

A lot of you know, the folks that are

32:46

really following this. There were certainly allegations

32:48

of this was some sort of manufactured

32:51

beef, but at this point it's

32:53

gotten so nasty and personal

32:56

and like this level of specificity

32:59

and like, I don't know. I

33:01

don't think it is. I think this is very, very

33:03

real. And Kendrick Lamar, whether

33:06

it's a righteous quest on his part,

33:08

is trying his damnedest to ruin

33:11

Drake's life, and

33:13

I think he is largely succeeding because

33:16

the Internet, by all accounts, has

33:18

ruled that Kendrick is the winner

33:21

for the most part. I think in his final

33:23

disresponse, it almost feels

33:26

like Drake's waving a white flag a

33:28

little bit. And there was an attempt

33:30

on his life at his home

33:33

in Canada, the aforementioned sprawling

33:36

compound. One of his bodyguards

33:38

was severely injured in a

33:40

drive by shooting, you know. And

33:43

I believe one of Drake's flagship

33:46

stores He's got this like brand Ovo,

33:48

was spray painted with the words

33:51

He's not like us or not like us.

33:54

And you know, that's the thing is because Kendrick

33:57

has always sort of come off as like a an

34:00

artist of the people, you know, hence the

34:02

Pulitzer. I guess he's speaking to speaking

34:04

to an experience that can is relatable in

34:06

some ways. Drake, on the other hand,

34:08

has always been a little bit more champagne poppy

34:11

vibes and like look at my mayback and all

34:13

that stuff. So I think in

34:15

calling it not like us, he's

34:18

calling him out, saying you're a phony, you

34:20

know, you're you're out of touch, you know, and

34:22

you're on the level of like compares

34:25

him to Jeffrey Epstein for Christ's sake. I mean,

34:28

it's not good. Oh sorry, and that that free

34:30

I did. I already say that phrase was spray painted. And

34:32

I just feel like these are the you know, unless Kendrick

34:34

comes out and says, don't do this, y'all. But it

34:36

could be like the badger's already out of the bag, right,

34:39

I don't know, Ben, where do you see this going? Do

34:41

you see this as? I mean, to me, it feels like it

34:43

could end in somebody getting

34:45

hurt real bad.

34:46

But so I also think it

34:48

is uh, it is successfully

34:51

distracting a lot of people from chaos

34:54

abroad.

34:55

Well sure, and Sean

34:57

Combs, I really wish we knew, Uh,

35:00

who's that guy we always look to for advice?

35:02

Oh yeah, joh rule Man.

35:04

I wish we knew what he had to say.

35:06

One person who we do know what

35:08

he has to say is I guess friend

35:10

of the network Questlove Amir Questlove

35:13

Thompson, who has this to say

35:16

on his Instagram. Famously outspoken,

35:18

absolute hip hop head, very

35:20

very very smart, very thoughtful guy, multiple

35:23

published books, Oscar winning documentary

35:26

filmmaker, and incredible musician.

35:28

He has this to say, Nobody won the war. This

35:31

wasn't about skill. This was a wrestling

35:33

match level mud slinging and takedown

35:35

by any means necessary. Women and

35:38

children and actual facts be damned.

35:40

Same audience wanting blood will soon

35:42

put up rip posts

35:44

like they weren't part of the problem. Hip

35:46

hop is truly dead.

35:48

Oh rip post is nice little

35:51

wordplay from Uncle quest

35:53

post.

35:55

So I don't know, I think that we give Quest the last

35:57

word. That's a pretty excellent summation

35:59

of all of this. And again I'm almost

36:01

a little disappointed in Kendrick for going there.

36:04

But if his goal is to expose

36:06

something that might be

36:08

even more egregious and

36:10

despicable than we even know, then maybe

36:12

that's the choice he had to make, was to get in the mud.

36:15

You know, I don't know, maybe he's got a worm in his

36:17

brain. Oh, let's hear about that.

36:19

After a quick break and a word from our sponsor,

36:28

and we have returned, Doc,

36:30

could I get a little patriotic music.

36:33

Perfect, My

36:36

fellow Americans, as you may

36:38

or may not know, there is an election

36:40

upon us. There is always an

36:43

election upon us. Sometimes

36:45

the choices don't look too great.

36:47

But what if you may be asking

36:49

yourself, there was something that appeared

36:52

to be a different option

36:55

from the usual false

36:57

dichotomy of Democrats

36:59

and Republicans in strides

37:02

Robert F. Kennedy Junior.

37:05

That's correct, folks, the child

37:08

the scion of the

37:10

RFK of Old who

37:12

was assassinated by Sir Hans

37:14

Sirhan, possibly with

37:17

some intervening variables,

37:19

one of Mitch, which may have been de

37:22

Tora. Check out our episode

37:24

on drugs' weapons. Also check out

37:27

an interesting interview with Robert F.

37:29

Kennedy Junior quite recently when

37:32

he said that he experienced

37:35

memory loss in brain fog and twenty

37:37

ten, went to get treatment and

37:39

was told by doctors that

37:42

a parasite eight part of his brain,

37:45

that worm a part of his brain

37:47

and then died. He's fine, he's

37:49

still in politics.

37:52

He's got some controversial views.

37:54

He's married to Cheryl Hines,

37:56

who plays Since we always want celebrities

38:00

at the forefront of real issues. He's

38:04

he's married to Cheryl Hines, who plays

38:06

Larry David's ex wife in the amazing

38:09

show Curb Your Enthusiasm, Ben.

38:11

Does this not strike you as disqualifying

38:14

type stuff? I mean, I know we've

38:16

put to bed the whole idea of age limits and

38:18

stuff, but a worm ate my brain and

38:24

part okay, and maybe I'm espousing

38:26

some slightly wacky ideas

38:29

just seems a little oh boy, that's kind

38:32

of scary. Well.

38:33

I think we can gain some insight when we

38:35

know the context around where those claims

38:37

came from when he made those claims

38:40

and why.

38:41

I think because.

38:42

They were made during his divorce proceedings

38:45

and it was a big, messy, expensive

38:48

divorce that he was going through. And

38:51

I would argue, and I can't prove this, you

38:53

guys, that he was attempting to

38:55

show that his future

38:57

ability to make money. Like

39:00

when you're going through divorce, it's

39:02

often like, well, how much money are you going to make

39:04

in the future versus how much money you made before?

39:06

And the way the couple lived together

39:09

financially, right, I think

39:11

the brain thing, they're like, oh

39:13

man, I don't know, I'm not going to be good at any of

39:16

this stuff anymore because amate my brain was

39:19

a ploy to basically pay less

39:21

money to his soon

39:23

to.

39:23

Be xy, similar to the Alex

39:25

Jones claims about how eating chili

39:28

just had some deleterious effects.

39:30

Yeah, let's jeez. Yeah, Let's go

39:32

to a New York Times and the Alex

39:34

Jones cop is actually not

39:36

not too far off base compared to how

39:39

RFK Junior is seeing or

39:41

portrayed in mass media. Let's

39:43

go to a New York Times article that

39:46

came from a while ago

39:48

May eighth, twenty twenty four. This

39:51

is something that gets brought up

39:54

a lot. The journalist Suzanne

39:56

Craig reviewed depositions

39:59

from that twenty twelve divorce.

40:02

Matt, thank you for the context there and the title

40:04

of this New York Times review or

40:06

the title of this article is. RFK Junior

40:09

says doctors found a dead worm

40:11

in his brain. Previously

40:14

undisclosed health issues that

40:16

just conveniently disclose

40:19

themselves when they

40:21

are helpful. He

40:24

said, he talked

40:27

with some of the countries top neurologists,

40:30

and many of those folks

40:32

had either treated or spoken to his

40:35

uncle, Senator Edward

40:37

Kennedy before that guy died

40:39

of brain cancer. So

40:42

here's the issue is this.

40:44

First off, he is alive, he is

40:46

in fine health. He is hail

40:49

and hearty at this point.

40:51

But the story still brings

40:54

some questions to people. Now we know

40:56

that we know that, for instance, acidic

41:00

worms can prey on any

41:03

number of organisms

41:05

or animals. It's actually one

41:07

thing that's kind of distressing pre

41:10

hibernation. You can see a lot

41:12

of bears here in the United States

41:14

with tapeworms literally trailing

41:17

out of their butts like parachute cord.

41:19

Oh yeah, yeah, because

41:21

bears eat a lot of raw approachure.

41:24

Ben, Is this one of those nematodes like

41:26

in that story that Matt brought about the woman

41:28

that had like the ten inch worm

41:30

extracted out of her brain or what kind

41:32

of worm are we talking here?

41:34

Yeah, this would be according

41:36

to the guests as people were making this would

41:38

have been most likely what's called a pork

41:41

tapeworm larva. The

41:44

doctors had not who were speaking

41:46

with The Times, had not treated

41:48

mister Kennedy. They were therefore

41:50

speaking in general terms. One

41:53

person that I really enjoyed reading

41:55

about in this specific

41:57

New York Times article doctor Clinton

42:00

in White, who was a professor of infectious

42:02

diseases at the University of Texas

42:04

Medical Branch in Galveston and said,

42:07

Hey, microscopic tapewormegs

42:09

are sticky. They can easily transfer

42:12

from one person to another. Once

42:14

they're hatched, the larvae can travel

42:16

throughout the bloodstream and end up in

42:19

quote all kinds of tissues. However,

42:22

it is unlikely that a parasite

42:25

would eat a part of the brain.

42:28

Unlike tapeworm larvae and the intestines,

42:31

those in the brain stay pretty

42:33

small, about a third of an inch,

42:36

and bad news for some folks. A

42:38

third of an inch is kind of small.

42:40

Well, that's food for thought. Ben bought

42:43

for foods. Ben

42:47

was literally him saying that I had diminished

42:49

earning power, so I want to pay less

42:51

child support. Now this is coming back to bite him

42:53

in the butt. Is this going to have any real world impact

42:56

on his political aspirations.

42:58

That's an interesting question. Yeah,

43:00

because around the same

43:03

time there was also

43:05

the claim that he suffered from mercury

43:07

poisoning the souphold hat

43:10

or disease. Yeah, it

43:12

just eating too much fish, according to

43:14

the deposition. That's his Alexyally,

43:17

yes, yeah,

43:19

we know that mercury poisoning can

43:21

lead to neurological disturbances

43:23

and issues with memory. There's

43:26

a great summation of this, by the way, in

43:28

the Hill by the journalist

43:30

Lawrence Fororza, which also named

43:33

checks the New York Times article. And

43:36

so this guy, as he said, Nolan,

43:38

just can't get a break in the deposition.

43:41

He said, I have cognitive problems.

43:43

Clearly, I have short term memory loss.

43:46

I have a longer term memory loss.

43:48

It affects me. And that's interesting

43:51

because we have to ask

43:54

if this guy should be president,

43:58

right, if if he should

44:00

be running a campaign. Now,

44:02

there's a lot of you know, as

44:04

we all know, unfortunately, the

44:07

United States on paper

44:09

is a meritocracy. In practice

44:12

it often ends up being dynastic.

44:15

It ends up being something very close

44:17

to, unfortunately, an

44:19

aristocracy, something that would shame the

44:22

founders of this country to realize.

44:25

Even the ones, well maybe not the ones wanted

44:27

George Washington to be the monarch, but

44:30

they're all dead.

44:31

George Washington always had a bit of a kingly look

44:33

too, didn't they is.

44:35

Fortunate, to be honest, a

44:38

little bit, right. That was all propaganda.

44:40

He was very tall for his age.

44:42

Yeah, clearly

44:44

their intent was was evidence

44:46

in the way that he was you know, photographed

44:49

and then wasn't he also Kennedy

44:51

one of the people that was calling for Biden to prove

44:54

that he wasn't like having cognitive

44:56

decline, like to take some sort of test or something.

44:58

And now this and respect doesn't

45:01

make that look particularly fair

45:05

or you know, reasonable.

45:06

And to be fair, we have not met Robert

45:09

Kennedy Junior ourselves. He

45:12

is as of the time in this recording,

45:14

he is seventy years old. I

45:16

believe his birth his next birthday will

45:18

be in twenty twenty five. But he's

45:21

also been associated with

45:23

things that would be considered controversial

45:27

in terms of like he's very anti

45:29

vaccination for COVID

45:31

perhaps in general.

45:34

Proposed to have vaccination for brain worms.

45:37

Well he's against it. That

45:41

guy eats pork brains and eggs

45:43

every morning. I'm kidding, but

45:45

that is just so you know, folks, if you're not from

45:47

the US, that is a thing people eat,

45:49

especially in the Southeast right now.

45:51

My parents were into it. My Grandpapa

45:53

would make it, called it brains and eggs, and

45:55

I had it a couple of times and it ain't bad. It's

45:57

good, yeah, but it doesn't have what's

45:59

it called prions. It can have

46:02

these parasites if it's

46:04

not treated correctly. There

46:08

you go.

46:08

And for people who believe

46:11

that there are dangerous

46:14

or hidden her conspiratorial effects

46:16

of COVID nineteen vaccination rollouts,

46:19

he is considered one of the leading

46:22

sort of faces of that argument.

46:24

He's also linked. He's also one of the people

46:26

will link vaccines and existence

46:30

on the autism spectrum. He

46:33

is also speaking of rap beef.

46:36

This is like old guy rap beef. He's

46:38

taking shots at Joe Biden, Bill Gates,

46:41

everybody's favorite Anthony Fauci,

46:44

which is just such a ridiculous name to say,

46:46

and it rhymes with everything, which

46:48

is why I Founducauci. He

46:50

shows up at a lot of hip hop. But

46:54

with this again we have to ask

46:56

two great points there are raised here which

46:58

are perhaps can tradictory. One

47:02

the idea of motivation for

47:05

making these claims. We're not saying

47:07

the guy is lying, you know, and

47:09

we do know that people do get parasites

47:12

in their brain. But I

47:14

really appreciate the points we've raised here

47:16

too about what's it called ability

47:19

to serve. That's the thing that happens

47:21

whenever you run for totus. Mainly

47:24

right though, I assume without

47:26

verifying it, and I assume without verified

47:29

that a lot of members of Congress are also

47:31

required to, you know, have a physical

47:34

We've seen some members of Congress

47:37

who probably should

47:39

have retired before they did.

47:41

Going to our palse Scooch's earlier point

47:43

about maybe an age limit on serving, I

47:46

don't know, what do you guys think? Do you guys

47:48

think this was fully just a ploy in

47:51

that deposition, like the way someone

47:53

would like I mentioned in previous

47:55

thing, the way someone will show up with glasses

47:58

or maybe a neck brace during

48:00

a court case. Do you think make

48:02

it better?

48:03

They won't release the medical records, right, that's

48:05

a big part of it too, Like they're refusing and

48:07

if I'm not mistaken, His campaign's response

48:10

was that he picked it up in Africa

48:12

or South America or Asia whilst

48:14

doing humanitarian aid work, and

48:17

he says something like the issue was resolved more than

48:19

ten years ago and he is in robust physical

48:21

and mental health. I don't know, can you

48:23

come back from having a worm eat part of your

48:26

brain? Feels like it would change you,

48:28

you know, I don't feel like your brain it

48:31

would grow back. I think it would be a market

48:34

change in your personality depending on the

48:36

severity of it. I don't know. Again, I'm

48:38

no brain surgeon.

48:41

But we do no brain surgeons,

48:43

and several doctors who have treated

48:45

parasitic infections have

48:48

said that this can, to

48:50

your point, permanently damage brain

48:52

function, but you can also have temporary

48:55

symptoms and mount to a

48:57

quote Mountai full recovery. Same

49:00

might apply to mercury poisoning too.

49:02

I suppose, just

49:05

amid us non brain surgeons

49:07

here, I suppose it may be linked

49:10

to the degree of the infection or

49:12

the severity and length

49:14

of time of exposure.

49:17

I don't know.

49:17

You know, he also got

49:19

on a phone interview with The Times,

49:22

and it was right around

49:25

the time he is getting on the time

49:27

he was getting on his first state ballot,

49:30

so his campaign declined to answer

49:33

any follow up questions

49:35

regarding this. Obviously,

49:38

we're not disparaging

49:40

someone. If you have a real health condition,

49:43

we see a medical professional.

49:45

He's I just don't know.

49:47

I mean, honestly, the US

49:49

political system is so obviously

49:52

rigged and the result of such a conspiracy

49:55

at this point that a

49:57

third party candidate already

50:00

a collapse of the current regime is

50:03

just a non starter. I mean, what do you guys think,

50:05

do you think there there's a possibility of

50:07

a real, viable third party candidate

50:10

in a presidential election?

50:12

Hell no, I was gonna say, I

50:14

was gonna say, I hope.

50:15

I would love to believe that, but it just

50:17

I mean, you know what, Okay, Matt, to your

50:19

point, almost logic

50:22

would dictate that now more than ever, given

50:24

the two choices we have are both pretty terrible.

50:26

No, for real? Yeah right,

50:29

so you're no, I'm just laughated down board than

50:31

ever.

50:31

Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, and I'm fully torn on

50:33

this guy. I was in a clubhouse room one

50:35

time when he came in to talk a couple of years

50:37

ago.

50:38

And he's a great speaker.

50:40

He man, if he was up

50:42

at a podium being president, I

50:44

would listen genuinely because

50:46

those Kennedy's presidential for

50:49

sure, I'm telling you, I kind of forgot,

50:51

like what is a president? Sound like, oh wait,

50:53

that's it? Oh man, wow. But

50:55

then you know, you listen to some of the content

50:58

of what we're talking about, or what he's talking about,

51:00

and you go, oh, dear, uh

51:02

maybe okay, I don't know, man.

51:04

Maybe.

51:06

It's one of those It's one of those things about

51:09

also just with full objectivity.

51:12

It's one of those things we always

51:14

have to envy about the stridently

51:16

incorrect. It's just the confidence,

51:19

like starting off with an if

51:21

that makes a lot of sense, all

51:24

right, yeah, yeah, yeah, this guy's great,

51:26

and then they get yeah,

51:28

and then they get to it then and you're like, I

51:32

suppose so, I suppose that

51:34

part's true as well.

51:36

And then they get to that because so,

51:39

and they add now as a result,

51:41

and by the end of it, if

51:43

you're not very careful, it's kind of

51:45

like swimming out from the shore and

51:48

not realizing how the current can

51:50

drag you by water.

51:52

If there aren't too many clicks or steps

51:55

between those different things, you might

51:57

get sucked in the undertow because

51:59

you're like, oh yeah, sure, okay. And

52:01

if you want to believe and you like the person,

52:04

also easier. The cult of personality

52:06

is a very real thing, and it can it's

52:09

very attractive, especially you know, Matt,

52:11

you got I haven't even thought about this. Why isn't

52:13

there a viable third party really

52:16

swooping in right now? Given what

52:18

would feel to me like an opportunity.

52:20

This system does not allow for it.

52:22

I think I think that's what it is. It's set up

52:24

to fail. It's not built for.

52:26

It because money and guns exist.

52:28

I'm just shoking. Oh, but no, you're

52:30

not wrong, But I think it's case in points.

52:33

Speaking of culture personality, I heard

52:35

there's a pretty famous US

52:37

representative from South Carolina

52:40

that is really into RFK Junior.

52:42

Ben, there's some some guy Francis

52:45

Underwood. Is that his name?

52:46

Oh?

52:47

I see, yeah, yeah, that's the that

52:49

maybe the redeeming factor. And I'm glad you brought

52:52

that up, Matt. For people who are on

52:54

the fence about Robert Kennedy

52:56

Junior, if the if

52:58

the slick politics don't convince you

53:01

that maybe you need someone who's even more

53:03

of a professional orator. Kevin

53:05

Spacey, you know him.

53:08

You may have loved Usual Suspects parts

53:10

of the House of Cards. You know he's

53:13

Ryan Singer directed Usual

53:15

Suspects. Well,

53:19

Kevin Spacey has endorsed his

53:22

quote loyal friend, Robert F. Kennedy

53:24

Junior in the upcoming presidential

53:27

elections, So maybe that will

53:29

be the

53:31

path of the who asked.

53:33

For this, Kevin Spacey, who was clamoring

53:36

for ke What does Kevin think about this, y'all,

53:38

because.

53:38

He's clearly Kevin to get

53:40

out of some situations.

53:44

He's got a movie coming out that

53:46

was slammed and it doesn't it didn't look very good.

53:48

Oh there's another movie coming out, it's a

53:50

documentary, and I don't think he's happy.

53:53

I bet he's not. Oh no, he's that.

53:55

That's another example of like exposing

53:58

systematic bad behavior

54:01

and you can't just bolster your way

54:03

out of it, y'all. I'm sorry, I'm just you know,

54:06

I don't know if this is what's happening with Drake,

54:09

but it feels like it could. Feels like

54:11

it could be a lid getting blown off kind of situation.

54:14

Well, as a Canadian national, Aubrey

54:17

does not have the possibility of becoming

54:19

president of the United States. Very

54:22

good point, R FK. Junior

54:24

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54:26

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54:28

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