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Now We're Cooking. It is a podcast about

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Dang Cook. I

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recorded a lot of episodes ahead.

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I thought I had enough and I did,

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but I recorded some of them the

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wrong way. So what I'm doing is

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this week, this day, this

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fine Thursday, you're

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Now we're cooking about orgasm with

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Kath Barbadaro. This

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this episode.

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Well, you know, when you live on nothing

2:12

is ever over. We've all been in that situation

2:14

where we say things that we regret. We've

2:17

all got the regrets from time to time.

2:19

Something slips out. And you stop and you

2:21

go, why don't my brain even. Hey,

2:25

now we're cooking. I've

2:27

been recorded a day. Now we're cooking

2:29

in like a week show. I think that's how I

2:31

post it. It's a podcast about Dang Cook.

2:34

This week, we'll be talking about the first

2:36

three episodes of because there ain't

2:38

no fucking way anybody gonna watch all

2:40

the episodes of tour guys. My

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co host my my guest

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or co host, whatever we're calling it this

2:47

week, is Kath Barbadoro, somebody

2:50

that I have Tourgasm ed with.

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So -- Yeah. -- I thought it would be very

2:54

fun for me and her to

2:56

watch the first three episodes

2:59

of Tourgasm and then talk

3:01

about how fake it is. It's the fake it show

3:03

I've ever seen.

3:05

It's so fake and also

3:07

I just when you said,

3:09

like, we only watch the first three because

3:11

who could watch the whole thing. When

3:13

I found out there were nine of these,

3:16

I was blown

3:18

away just by how

3:20

this whole thing should have been a

3:23

twenty eight minute short film.

3:25

Like, the entire tour. I

3:27

guess you could have done a hour

3:29

and forty five minute documentary

3:32

made Yeah. If you put other episodes

3:35

were, though. You know? If yeah.

3:37

Like, if they had put more

3:39

actual stand up comedy in.

3:41

It could have been yeah.

3:44

Like a concert film, you know, like,

3:46

Did it I mean, the comedians of comedy came out,

3:48

like, the year before this, which, like, I know

3:50

you've had people on this on this

3:52

Dan Cook retrospective who were, like,

3:54

really into Dan Cook. I was the comedians

3:56

of comedy person. So, like, that was

3:58

the one that I watched. And

4:00

I had never seen any of this. I mean, I knew I

4:02

knew Dan Koch. I thought he was fine. Like, I didn't

4:05

hate him or anything. So I I mean, I

4:07

kinda hate him now. I

4:09

don't think I hated him. Don't

4:11

think I hated him before I started now. We're

4:13

cooking. Like, I think I always

4:15

felt like he's a

4:17

case of one of those people who

4:20

who gets very popular and then

4:22

for some reason ever Nickelback. He's

4:24

fucking nickelback. Nickelback is

4:26

not like the worst fucking band

4:28

in the world. I mean, I don't I

4:30

like some of their songs actually. How

4:32

are you reminded? Yeah. I did that. Sorry. I'm just

4:34

I I play it all the time. So

4:37

but all of a sudden, everybody just decides

4:39

this thing sucks. And you

4:41

actually said something to me in

4:43

the DM's about kinda

4:46

you were into the alt comedy thing

4:49

and, like, that is

4:51

why that that

4:53

like, you didn't ever have to turn on Diane

4:56

Cook. You know, like like

4:58

that he was not gonna be in your

5:00

wheelhouse, I guess. Yeah.

5:02

Like, I I didn't I mean, I probably

5:05

because, like, that was a signifier of

5:07

being an all comedy fan a little bit. Was

5:09

having was not liking Dan Cook, but it's

5:11

just, like, those are separate

5:13

streams of comedy that,

5:15

like, I didn't because I'm I'm like,

5:17

he's touring in in orgasm and it's

5:19

all colleges. Right? Yeah. And it's

5:22

two thousand five. I think he was

5:24

doing this. I'm a little bit

5:26

younger than that. So, like,

5:29

the the crest of the Dan Cook

5:31

wave I'm just a

5:33

little bit younger than and didn't really

5:35

have to, like, deal with.

5:37

Because, like, I don't know, people in my high school didn't really

5:39

care about comedy in general. No. But So,

5:41

like, Yeah. And I still does.

5:43

It's a great day. Right. So

5:46

yeah. So it didn't really, like, come up. And

5:48

also, he's from Boston and something

5:50

that I thought was interesting about. This is all these guys are

5:52

from Boston. And so, like,

5:54

I mean, I grew up really close to Boston,

5:56

so I feel like there's a little bit of that, like,

5:59

he's not like a hometown hero,

6:01

but like, I don't know, I feel like I have

6:04

and watching this particularly

6:06

Gary Gullman. Like, he just reminds me

6:08

of, like, people that I know.

6:10

Gary Goldman honestly reminds me one of my uncles.

6:12

Like, there there's

6:15

just some, like, familiarity to it because they're

6:17

all like New England people that

6:19

I don't know. I'm like,

6:21

when I'm watching this, And there's

6:23

not a lot of Dan Cook material

6:25

in this, like basically none.

6:27

It's him making noises

6:30

and running around and singing,

6:32

I love grilled cheese, which, like, is

6:34

what his material is. I fucking

6:36

oh my god. I literally cut me

6:38

out. Wrote that as a note or

6:40

anything, but was

6:42

I just I I put

6:45

myself in the position of the

6:47

guy that he made

6:48

sing. I love grilled cheese. And

6:51

I just wanted to I would I

6:53

would oh my god. I don't even know what I had to

6:55

punch him in the nuts maybe or something. Like,

6:57

I was such an oceanic

7:00

of what a person in an

7:02

audience does. You know what I

7:04

mean? Just and and I'll say

7:06

this in in in vicious circle.

7:08

Yeah. Vicious circle. Me and

7:10

John watch that. And

7:13

there's a scene in in vicious

7:15

circle where a guy a very

7:18

clearly very drunk guy in an arena.

7:20

He's performing in the round which we

7:22

decided is the world's dumbest thing for a

7:24

comedian to do.

7:25

Insamedly bad. It's so bad. Stupid.

7:28

Like, awful

7:30

to see your comedian's back. Also,

7:33

like, I I just feel

7:35

like when I'm performing on stage,

7:38

I would feel so

7:40

vulnerable if there were people behind

7:43

me. Like, the whole point is that

7:45

you're relating to an audience that

7:47

is that you are looking at and that

7:49

is looking at you, which obviously you can't

7:51

do when you're performing in a dames coop

7:53

sized arena like, I

7:55

mean, these colleges aren't that big, but, like, his

7:57

fucking Madison Square Garden or whatever. You can't do

7:59

that anyway. But especially having people

8:01

behind you, it's just, like, the

8:04

physical sense of

8:06

threat, I would know. Like,

8:08

your adrenaline is up when you're on

8:10

stage. If there's people, it's just bad.

8:12

It really also encourages bad

8:14

behavior in the audience, which --

8:16

Yeah. -- I I the in that

8:19

because if he's not looking at you,

8:22

then I I

8:24

don't know how and and by the

8:26

way, for the people that decide to

8:28

watch the stuff that I'm reviewing,

8:31

whoever filmed the vicious circle didn't

8:34

I've I'm very

8:37

concerned that he didn't even know it was in

8:39

the round. Like, that's

8:41

the thing that worries me

8:43

the most. But, like, it is, like, I don't

8:45

want people behind me because I don't

8:47

want them talking

8:49

And -- Yeah. -- feeling like they're

8:52

like behind me. And Your

8:54

whole thing, if if you're on stages,

8:56

you're supposed to be manipulating the energy

8:58

of the audience. You can't do that if

9:00

you can't see them. Like and

9:02

they're Not only can you

9:04

not see them, but they're not looking at your

9:06

face, the thing that is emoting

9:09

And it's just insane to me.

9:11

I know there's jumbo trunks or whatever, but, like,

9:13

it's it doesn't work. It was also

9:15

so funny on on vicious

9:17

circle because a guy is

9:19

very drunk. And --

9:21

Yeah. -- and they left it in,

9:23

which I think was such dumb

9:25

shit. But a guy's super drunk.

9:27

He runs up to the stage.

9:30

And he's like, hey, man, you're doing great or

9:32

some shit like that. He was just

9:34

a guy's trash. And Dane he

9:36

handled him so fucking

9:39

well that there was a

9:41

point when I was watching

9:43

it, that I was like, Oh,

9:45

maybe Dan Cook is, like,

9:47

really great. But then, you know, you

9:49

watch the material and it all sucks. You know

9:51

The material is bad, but I

9:53

do think he is talented. Like

9:55

and this show is so free of

9:58

material. It's really hard to make that, like, evaluation.

10:00

Even for James Cook who is, like, sort of famously

10:03

not about his material. This has, like,

10:05

even less. But he is, like, he is a

10:07

charismatic performer. He has a

10:09

very specific voice

10:11

and perspective. This kind of like it's

10:14

like, like,

10:17

frat guy, but, like, kinda weirdly,

10:19

like, he has sort

10:21

of like a Jim Morrison y, like, lizard

10:23

y thing about him.

10:25

Like, it's a specific thing.

10:28

And III think a lot of people

10:30

have emulated it and not done it as

10:32

well as him. I it's not

10:34

my thing. I don't like it, but

10:36

I can recognize that, like,

10:39

it is a it is a specific talent

10:41

and, like, he you know, he's a

10:43

comic who started in Boston at a

10:45

time when, like, that was a really good

10:47

place to be doing and starting comedy.

10:49

Like, he did learn. I mean and

10:51

again, like like Robert

10:53

Kelly, I feel his way about too. Garbage material

10:55

just like an absolute trash. But, like,

10:57

as a guy, I get why

10:59

people responded to that guy. Yeah.

11:01

And, like, he is

11:03

somebody who, like, if I saw him in a

11:05

movie just like being himself or something,

11:07

I'd be like, great. But, like, I

11:09

absolutely don't wanna hear that guy's material. But,

11:11

you know, it well, you know, and

11:13

IIII mean,

11:15

you know, we gotta go back when you

11:17

said you were the alt comic person.

11:19

Well, this is the period

11:21

of time. Were on maximum into

11:23

Opiant Anthony. So --

11:25

Mhmm. -- Robert Kelly is

11:27

general is the reason I watch

11:29

this. And I

11:31

think it had this I

11:33

I got this feeling watching it before.

11:36

I was like, oh, this is fun, you know. It's

11:38

a bunch of guys having a good time going

11:40

on tour. Or whatever, you know, at the

11:42

time. I think it and I'm gonna

11:44

bring this up a little bit. I think

11:46

it prevented me from doing stand up for

11:48

another five

11:48

years. Watching

11:51

Jay Davis work that much. Oh,

11:53

worked that much. God. It made me just

11:55

like I can't do this. There's no fucking

11:58

possible way I could do this. Working out

12:00

the kill him with kindness

12:01

joke. And -- Yeah. -- I just see

12:03

That was rough. I had to put a lot of that

12:06

on mute because it was it was painful for me to

12:08

watch watch him try to

12:10

nail down a real garbage

12:12

bit. Not a joke. And

12:14

also, like but But,

12:16

like, I feel like this

12:18

show, the people have described

12:20

in in in the past. I didn't even take this

12:22

back to wrestling because you watch wrestling

12:24

too. You know what I'm talking about. People used

12:26

to always talk about how WWE

12:29

wrestling was Vince McMahon playing

12:31

with his

12:31

toys. Is is the way that

12:34

I I you see that. And it's like, he has

12:36

all these guys. He's just sort of

12:38

mashed them all together. I

12:40

got the vibe that was Dan

12:42

Cook playing with his toys. I

12:44

really felt like you

12:47

seeing at this time, you could see

12:49

the, like, sort of, psychology of,

12:53

like, he got the biggest

12:55

room, which hey, it's

12:57

his tour. He he can have the

12:59

big room, but also,

13:01

like, he planned it seems like

13:03

he planned all of that outings,

13:05

which misery. That's just misery to

13:07

me. Awful. Yeah. Do an

13:09

outing.

13:10

That's like the fake a shit. I but

13:12

I agree with you, like, I think this

13:14

is this was totally cast by

13:17

him. But, like, I kinda wish it

13:19

was I feel like if because

13:21

he was doing that, there there

13:23

should have been more of it. Like, the

13:26

the most compelling thread I found in

13:28

in this, which was not really explored.

13:30

Maybe it is forward in the nine

13:32

other episodes because, like, holy

13:34

shit, nothing happens in this. Like, I can't

13:36

overstate how little happens in

13:38

it. But when Dane is

13:40

talking about how Robert Kelly is trying to

13:42

steal this show every night, that's

13:44

interesting to me. Yeah. The fact that he brought this

13:46

guy who is a veteran who is,

13:48

like, somebody who, like, growing up in New

13:50

England and liking standup. I knew who he

13:52

was. Like He also with

13:54

Opiant Anthony, he With Yeah. Yeah.

13:56

He was a he was, like,

13:58

a a very regular opinion,

14:00

Anthony God. Like, as in if

14:02

Jim Norton was out doing something. It

14:04

was when I didn't come in and and

14:06

cohost. So And he's like,

14:08

he's somebody who I don't know the

14:10

the relationship between the two, but I'm

14:12

gonna guess from what I know

14:14

about Boston stand up and stuff. Somebody probably

14:16

Dan looked up to and is now more successful

14:18

then. Yep. Like, that's a really

14:20

interesting dynamic. And then you have Jay

14:23

Davis, the, like, Noovie, who's

14:25

maybe, like, in a little bit over his

14:27

head. And then you have Gary Goldman who's

14:29

going through this sort of thing of,

14:31

like, Is this even really my audience? Is this

14:33

even really what I wanna do? I don't feel connected

14:35

to my material. Maybe I only

14:37

find that stuff interesting because I do

14:39

end up. But, like, that to me is so much more compelling

14:41

than, like, them fucking

14:43

riding segues and, like, fault tapping each

14:45

other and making Jay Davis

14:47

cry. Like, Well, I don't

14:49

know. Okay. Now

14:51

I think that that

14:53

is the Jay Davis

14:55

stuff. These guys

14:57

are not good actors. And

14:59

I can't play all to

15:01

orgasm because HBO Max

15:03

blocks it. From from me

15:05

playing it. But I will say

15:07

that I can't find

15:09

any information on Jay Davis.

15:12

Number one. So Yeah. I don't know if he does

15:14

stand up anymore. He can't he can't possibly

15:16

do anything because if you Google

15:18

them, then nothing comes up. And when you

15:20

go to the Wikipedia,

15:23

his name's not blue.

15:25

Like, I will quit. For

15:27

sure, doing standup. And

15:29

I mean, being on the

15:31

road for thirty days with these guys, I probably

15:33

would have quit too. At

15:38

that point in your at that point in your career, and

15:40

it feels like Dane said, Bobby,

15:42

you I

15:45

cast you, Bobby, to be an asshole to

15:47

to -- Yes. -- fun of people and

15:49

the goof up. Right. It wouldn't be me. The hazing

15:51

of the veteran comic of the

15:53

newbie, the classic -- Yeah.

15:55

-- and Gary Goldman, I got you

15:57

because you have

15:59

a different vibe, but, like,

16:02

he III

16:05

found myself like because

16:07

okay. I'll I'll I'm gonna bring this up

16:09

now. I gotta bring this article up

16:11

now. I have a daily beast

16:13

article where Gary Goldman's talking

16:15

about his time on orgasm. And

16:21

I'll I'll tell you one

16:22

thing. Number one,

16:24

he didn't he left in the

16:26

middle. And now he beg him

16:28

to come back. Like, he was like, I just don't I don't

16:30

wanna fucking do this. This is not.

16:32

Which -- Yeah. -- you fucking I

16:34

totally get it. And

16:37

and just saying it's not for me because the

16:39

audiences aren't for him.

16:41

But like he said, he

16:43

was miserable and a lot of what

16:46

we've actually been talking about

16:48

now has is

16:50

is sort of some of the

16:51

stuff. He goes He

16:54

didn't wanna ride horses, I'm guessing.

16:56

No. And so he said this

16:59

is an edited excerpt of the of a

17:01

conversation. So where were you in

17:03

your career at that time? When you ended

17:05

up getting the opportunity to be part of

17:07

that tour and what ended up being a

17:10

reality show because they didn't know was they

17:12

hadn't sold the show. Dan Cook did

17:14

-- Yeah. -- really super hit

17:16

until after the

17:18

show had been filmed. And

17:20

the the the shocker, I

17:22

I hate that. That makes me

17:25

Naming we didn't even talk about that.

17:27

Naming the show

17:31

Stocks. Thumbs down.

17:32

Yes. It's not really mad. It's

17:35

down for me. But

17:37

if we're saying, okay. He

17:39

named the Tourgasm, and

17:41

that sucks. He has the what he calls

17:43

the

17:43

sufi, but it's what we

17:46

called the shocker. Right.

17:48

Today, the guys would do

17:50

you'd take a picture and a guy would be like

17:52

or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait.

17:54

You know, and and at first, it was called

17:56

two in the pink, one in the stink, but

17:59

people didn't that. So they changed it to a

18:01

doctor. And they cooked

18:03

fucking trademarks that. And and I

18:05

was told by

18:08

somebody that comedy in

18:12

LA, that that flag was

18:14

flying over the comedy store

18:16

when they Drew Spears went there.

18:18

And he he said that flag flew

18:20

over the comedy store for a very long

18:23

time. Understandable. He

18:25

didn't show at the last factory, then they took

18:27

it down. They're Oh, and they took it down. That was

18:29

the last strong. Yeah. Yeah.

18:31

So Wait. What did Gary Goldman

18:33

say? So he goes, I'd just been on last

18:35

comic standing. So I'd done some TV and

18:37

was selling tickets on my own.

18:39

But the interesting thing was that it

18:42

dissipated really quickly. I

18:44

was sort of back where I started after

18:46

the show went off the air, It was short lived. I

18:48

mean, it was pretty much a summer

18:50

involved of being the flavor of the month and

18:52

then just going back to really

18:54

hustling to sell even a small amount

18:56

of tickets. And it was frustrating

18:58

because all I wanted to do was be able to

19:00

tour and get out and earn my living

19:02

as a stand up com comedian. And

19:04

it was next to impossible. It was a real struggle, so

19:07

that's where I was. I had

19:09

just come off last comic standing maybe

19:11

six months prior and were shooting

19:13

Tourgasm. But it was on spec as they

19:15

say in show business, which they don't give

19:17

you don't get paid to do it. They're

19:19

getting paid for the tour. Right.

19:22

Paid for the But not to have your life

19:25

filmed all the time on tour, which,

19:27

like, I I've toured with you.

19:29

We had a great time there

19:31

were certainly moments where each of

19:33

us got cranky. Like, imagine

19:35

how amplified the crankiness would have

19:37

been if people were sticking cameras in our faces.

19:39

And we all genuinely like each other

19:41

unlike these people who are somewhat randomly

19:44

associated. Yeah. I mean,

19:46

randomly associated through one

19:48

guy that is so clearly in fucking charge.

19:50

The Bossier in

19:52

says Dane Cook Torgasm on

19:54

this side. Right. But yeah.

19:57

I don't know. It would one

19:59

thing you don't see in

20:01

the three episodes that we watch,

20:04

nobody fought with Dan Cook. They

20:06

were very Yeah. Yeah. The omen had, like,

20:09

a Bobby Kelly would, like would,

20:11

like, like, physically

20:14

kinda jostlem, like,

20:16

in a big brother way, but

20:18

there was no pit no ball

20:21

busting, no None of that none of

20:23

that stuff. Absolutely not. But Dane

20:25

did some really nasty

20:27

shit in the episodes we watch.

20:29

When I say really nasty shit,

20:31

I I The one I wanna bring up is Jay

20:33

Davis is doing his

20:35

taxes on the

20:37

bus, which Listen. You're

20:39

fucking driving forever. It

20:41

doesn't yeah. It doesn't fucking

20:43

like, you don't have to be engaged

20:45

and I know you're doing a t they're doing

20:47

a TV show, and I fucking get

20:49

it. You know? But, like, they didn't have

20:51

to just be like, you don't wanna be engaged

20:53

with each other, whole fucking time.

20:56

And why not just let a guy sit down

20:58

and do his fucking taxes? Let it

21:00

do his taxes. The other two of you can

21:02

talk, they can film them,

21:04

then you guys can get a break and,

21:06

you know Yeah. Dan comes in.

21:09

Dan comes in and dumps water on the

21:11

dude's taxes. And

21:13

I didn't I didn't notice that he dumped water on

21:15

them. Oh my god. That's so evil.

21:17

He walked through. What a fucking monster?

21:19

He caught it. There was a bottled he

21:21

had a bottled water next to him

21:23

on the table. And it didn't have

21:25

the cap on. And apparently, I think there

21:27

was a rule that you had to put the

21:30

cap on your bottled water while the while the bus is

21:32

moving. And Dave's like, oh,

21:34

see. And he's like, and there's like a

21:36

little moment of that and then

21:38

Dane walks away, turns around, and

21:40

dumps the bottle on the guy's taxes.

21:42

What a fucking asshole.

21:44

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That

21:47

guy doesn't He he he's like, oh, shit. Hey.

21:49

Come on. That's messed up, dude.

21:52

Like, it's like, that

21:54

is beyond fuck. That is,

21:56

like, hit a person, fucked

21:59

up. Absolutely, in

21:59

my

22:00

opinion. Yeah. So Well, that's

22:03

serious. He goes, Dane was just

22:05

filming it on his own, and I guess plan to

22:07

either sell it to his fans on his website

22:09

or sell it to a network. And then by

22:11

the time that tour was over, was

22:13

the flavor of the decade. I mean, people

22:15

were going crazy to try and

22:17

work with him. And so he sold

22:19

it to HBO and they produced a series

22:21

out of all of his foot that looking back on

22:23

it, I had no idea anybody was

22:25

ever going to see it. So I was

22:27

happy to be miserable the

22:29

entire time. And then

22:31

they asked what his reaction was when he saw it

22:33

and he said, I remember thinking to

22:35

myself, had I known anybody was going

22:37

to see it? I wouldn't have been

22:39

so miserable and maybe I would have been on

22:41

better behavior. But in the moment, I

22:43

just thought it was kinda cool. And again, I was

22:45

hoping it would help me sell tickets. Robert

22:47

Kelly and I went on a tour after

22:49

it aired, but the show was about

22:51

Dane and we didn't sell that many tickets,

22:53

which I wanna say

22:55

that, like, that is

22:57

sort of the business of

23:00

comedy that you get

23:02

these Where like you

23:04

do something and a bunch of people see

23:06

you and you're like, that's it. I did it. And then it

23:08

just dissipates. It

23:10

doesn't. But something like this isn't

23:12

going to make it so you sell tickets for the

23:14

rest of your career. And

23:16

And, like, it never was like that, but it

23:19

at any the dream of it

23:21

ever being like that, Dan

23:23

Cook was the last ride of it. Like,

23:25

that's two thousand five was

23:27

the end of that. Was the end of I on

23:29

Letterman and now I can tour comedy clubs

23:31

for years. Like, it's

23:33

it's gone by then.

23:36

And I mean, that's, like, kinda what spurred

23:38

the rise of of all

23:40

comedy was, like, it

23:42

was that Like, the club comedy was

23:44

getting tiresome, but also there wasn't money

23:46

in it. Like, the reason all comedy

23:48

became a viable form of comedy was because

23:50

all this stuff went away. Like, because

23:52

touring rock clubs ended up being

23:54

something that could you could make about as

23:56

much money doing like

23:58

regular clubs at and much more fun

24:01

and and the

24:04

the the the comedy club stuff

24:06

in any city. I don't know what it

24:08

is in I I know what it is

24:10

here. And I remember when I

24:12

was doing stand up in two thousand

24:14

eleven, I was like, well, how do I how

24:17

do I get to do this at the funny

24:19

bone? Because that seemed like the place you had to

24:21

get to. And I remember talking to

24:23

the person saying, well, you

24:25

gotta you gotta go in and you try out in front

24:27

of one guy. You don't -- Yep. --

24:29

you're doing your material in front of

24:31

one guy. It's not like you're in

24:34

a room. And then he decides whether he thinks it's

24:36

funny, and then then

24:38

you can work the club. And I'm just like, I'm

24:40

not fucking doing that.

24:42

They're doing that. Yeah. That guy thing. So

24:44

I can perform so I

24:46

can perform in a mall. And the

24:48

other side of the mall is the

24:51

buck goal. And I'm supposed to fucking do

24:54

anything to get.

24:55

To get twenty dollars. Yeah. Like

24:57

fuck this. Yeah. So doing I

24:59

mean, I like doing that? I I started in clubs,

25:02

like, I I have I have a soft spot

25:04

for the comedy club, like, the the

25:06

classic two drink minimum. I I like

25:08

them, but they

25:10

are not they are certainly not

25:12

a breeding ground for innovation or,

25:15

like, vital, you

25:18

know, forms of of the art form or

25:20

whatever. But yeah. Well,

25:22

it's also relating to that. It's

25:24

so interesting when And

25:27

I'm sorry if this is, like, too shop talking about comedy. But, like,

25:30

when Jay Davis

25:32

is working on that terrible bid,

25:34

it. Yeah. And we see it we see a bomb a couple times.

25:36

And then one time he does it and

25:38

he totally blanks. He just, like, forgets

25:40

what he's talking about on stage.

25:43

And he acknowledges it and he goes back he

25:45

acknowledges it to the audience and sort of tries to

25:47

play it off and it doesn't really work. And

25:49

then he goes back to talk to Dane

25:51

and Dane's like, never tell them

25:53

that. Like, never acknowledge that it's

25:56

material. Like, don't don't

25:58

let the because then it ruins the

26:00

illusion of of the act. Like,

26:02

it's so weird because it's like so the

26:04

opposite of, like, literally

26:06

this parallel form of comedy that is happening

26:08

at the exact same time that has

26:10

ultimately become much more popular

26:12

and has aged much better than

26:15

this, which is the,

26:18

like, attempt to, like, remove all of that

26:20

artificially. Like, All

26:22

comedy was, like, going up with a notebook and talking

26:24

about what happened to you that day. It's, like, the

26:26

complete which, like,

26:28

that don't get me wrong. That also can

26:30

suck. Like, I also I I think the

26:32

thing that I'd appreciate about Dan Cook

26:34

is that he is a he is an

26:36

entertainer in a way that I think a lot of alt

26:38

comics are not and, like,

26:41

I I have a lot of

26:43

respect for that part of the business

26:45

because, like, that is what I I think

26:47

it's, like, kind of the same reflection I have

26:49

for professional wrestling. It's, like, you're

26:51

putting on a show. Like, you're not this

26:53

isn't about, like, your creative

26:57

aspirations being met. Is about you entertaining people who, like, paid for

26:59

a babysitter. Like, that that's

27:02

what this is. If Dane's saying,

27:04

like, hey, don't ever let people

27:06

know you blanked or or what?

27:08

Oh, he's wrong. He's absolutely wrong. It's

27:11

material. It's like that is like people

27:13

thinking that when you go to a pro wrestling show,

27:15

you think it's Right. Right.

27:17

Exactly. It's Exactly.

27:19

It's like it's like not acknowledging

27:21

that you botched a move or

27:22

something. It's like so stupid

27:25

Yeah. I don't say I it's just,

27:27

like, everybody in the room knows it's fake.

27:29

We're there to watch a thing,

27:31

like a performance. And that's what -- Right. -- they

27:33

end up is and

27:35

I don't think it hurts at all

27:38

to acknowledge something like that. I

27:40

think it actually helps way

27:42

humanize you because I've lost my place

27:44

a few times. Like, where you're just like,

27:46

I don't fucking know what I was just saying there and then

27:48

just moved on and said something

27:50

about it and people are

27:51

like, oh, yeah, that's cool. Like, it's not

27:54

like People don't care. No. Yeah.

27:56

It's like I

27:58

think to me, what I try to think about

28:00

is like, people

28:02

came to watch it because they

28:04

want it to be good. They don't want it to be

28:06

awkward and uncomfortable. And

28:08

so if you make a

28:10

mistake or you lose your place or you, like,

28:12

acknowledge or if you break the fourth wall

28:14

or whatever, if it's in the service making

28:16

people more comfortable, it's the right move.

28:18

Because, like, people are not gonna laugh

28:20

if they're not, like,

28:23

feeling like they're in good hands. Unless you're doing

28:25

like an anti Kaufman thing or something. But

28:27

like if they just feel like you're an amateur,

28:30

they're gonna be on the edge of their seat and they're not gonna have a good time.

28:32

So, like, yeah, that's been something. Such

28:34

an interesting thing that he says there. It's

28:37

so counter to, like, every

28:39

instinct that I have as a performer. That's been

28:41

something we've been talking a lot about,

28:45

like, on the on the Patreon

28:47

about, like, how how

28:49

this stuff how when you go

28:51

in to do a performance in front of

28:53

people, because we're we're concurrently

28:56

right now, I'm recording

28:58

both this and another series called

29:00

Gut Shot, where we

29:03

watch Gutfeld Yeah.

29:05

Monologues. The jokes, and they're bad. They're

29:07

the jokes are so bad. And

29:09

they die. The audience doesn't

29:12

laugh. Right? And we've

29:14

been talking about a lot

29:16

about, like, when you

29:19

go see a show, You

29:21

sit down in the seat and you

29:24

absolutely one hundred percent want it to be

29:26

good. You don't you will give

29:28

them every fucking license so that when

29:30

you leave, you can say I

29:32

went and saw this show last night

29:34

and it kicked ass. You

29:36

know what I mean? It's not good. You want it

29:39

out. It makes

29:41

you feel good in your decision making, and it's

29:43

also like, if you're

29:46

doing comedy and it's not going

29:48

well, that becomes the

29:50

audience's problem to deal with. And

29:52

that sucks. Like it becomes their

29:54

responsibility to fix.

29:56

If you can't fix it because you're eating

29:58

shit, that's on them now.

30:00

And that's like awful. You really don't want

30:03

that. Yeah. So it was the j thing.

30:05

The j them doing,

30:07

like, okay. So We have a

30:09

young comedian. He's just

30:11

getting his shit started. Let's

30:14

give him some advice, which I

30:16

would have fucking hated if I

30:18

that's

30:19

why he quit comedy. I would have been like fuck

30:22

you, dang good. You go

30:24

out there and humped the fucking

30:26

stool and you're telling me your

30:28

process. I don't fucking care.

30:30

Everybody's process is different.

30:32

But, like, that is the

30:34

kind of stuff that kept me from doing stand

30:36

up. I I joke walk around, but

30:39

like, Opiant Anthony

30:41

and I don't know how good I am at performing

30:43

or whatever. But, like,

30:45

Opiant Anthony making fun of

30:48

people for bombing or whatever

30:50

was a big like, I can't bomb.

30:52

It'll be so bad if I bomb. If I go

30:54

do stand up and I bomb, it'll be the worst

30:56

thing that ever happened to me. And

30:58

then, like, seeing

31:00

or hearing because with Opie and

31:02

Anthony, it was you did hear, like, a

31:04

lot of very successful comedians talk about

31:06

their process. That was sort of one of

31:08

the first places that people

31:11

were having comedians talk about their

31:13

process. They didn't even do that on

31:15

Howard

31:15

Stern. And, like, you don't hear it and you'd be like,

31:17

I don't know if I I don't think I have

31:19

the skills to do this. I'm not

31:21

I'm not this kind

31:24

of I don't have this

31:26

kind of skill. And then watching a guy like

31:28

Jay Davis go and do

31:30

his his Killam entitled joke,

31:32

and it just doesn't get

31:34

anything. Was just like,

31:36

I I don't know if I could ever live

31:38

like that. I don't know if I could I

31:40

think I'd have to die

31:42

and, you know, I've talked about my first

31:44

time doing a open

31:47

mic. The second I was done,

31:49

I ran out the door, got in my car and

31:51

drove home. I didn't even

31:53

look at

31:53

anybody. And I think

31:56

that's the the difference. First of all,

31:58

I think you're a very good performer. But

32:00

I think that's the difference between you have

32:02

found your medium. Your medium isn't stand

32:05

up because I shit

32:07

the first time I did an open mic. And

32:09

my first instinct was when can I do another

32:11

open mic? I need to get better at this.

32:13

I was And, like, that's the

32:15

Okay. So you did feel that. I got, like, three laughs,

32:17

four maybe five laughs. I don't know. I

32:19

did get laughs. And I was, like, oh, I

32:21

think I can do this. But

32:25

just didn't want to

32:27

talk to anybody in the place.

32:29

I wanted to just I see. Wait. I

32:31

I think I was still pretty

32:33

embarrassed that I did. It. And

32:35

-- Yeah. -- it is shameful. That is

32:37

that is true. Well, I know it's

32:40

weird because, like, you do

32:42

you get up there and there's a light shining in your face.

32:44

You can't see the audience a

32:46

lot of times, which was really hard

32:48

for me because I was like, I think

32:50

I'm supposed to look at

32:52

the Where do I look to see

32:54

where they're reacting to stuff? Like,

32:56

I had heard all of this stuff on,

32:58

like, opiate, Anthony. I was trying to,

33:00

like, apply that to doing an

33:02

open mic, which is a totally different thing

33:05

than what they're talking about. And

33:07

also, I don't think there was ever

33:09

gonna be a time where I was

33:11

gonna do like the kind of

33:13

comedy that Bob Kelly does.

33:15

That's just like not. Sure. Yeah. I

33:17

am, you know, or that Jim Norton does or

33:19

any of those guys do. It's

33:21

not That's not the kind of guy I am. That's not

33:23

kind of stuff I do. III

33:26

think I'm better at maybe telling

33:28

stories than I am at just writing

33:30

jokes. Although, I forget some jokes. I mean, I

33:32

just it's just I think if you wanted

33:34

to, you would be a very good standup, but I think

33:36

you have found your thing -- Yeah. -- like

33:38

and it's it's a little different.

33:40

You know, I like I I certainly think you could. You're

33:42

very funny or good performer, but yeah.

33:45

I think you I think you're factoring. But

33:48

stuff My thing is -- Oh, go ahead.

33:50

-- but stuff like this, it this

33:52

is pre Mark Maran's show

33:55

too. Yes. This stuff was

33:57

so mystified. And this

33:59

was supposed to be a look behind the

34:01

curtain, and it's a wildly

34:03

unrealistic tool. It's

34:06

so fake in so many ways. I do before I move

34:08

on, I do wanna say the thing that

34:10

watching this, the

34:12

thing that if I had seen this

34:14

at the time, I think would have put me off stand

34:16

up. Wasn't so much that? I think,

34:18

like, bombing a hundred percent

34:20

feels like you are dying. It feels like you are physically

34:22

in the throes of death. It's very

34:24

scary, but then it happens a

34:26

few times and you

34:28

realize it you don't actually

34:30

die and it's it's okay. It's funny. It's

34:32

yeah. It's funny. Like, it's never happened to me.

34:34

I'm like, oh oh, man. But

34:36

it makes you One of the biggest, like,

34:39

You know? One of the greatest

34:41

joys you can like, one of the best

34:43

gifts you can give comedian friends is bombing

34:45

in front of them. It is a beautiful

34:47

full gift you can give your

34:49

your friends. But my thing that would

34:51

have prevented me

34:54

from doing makes you feel like you can handle anything. I'm sorry. The

34:56

worst possible scenario you

34:58

live and it feels good. So

35:00

yeah. It does

35:02

make you feel like tough. It gives you a thick

35:04

skin. That's how I feel about roast too. Roast give you

35:06

a thick skin. Yeah. I'm happy. I've

35:09

I've done them. But the thing that I

35:11

don't think would have bothered me. I don't watching Jay Davis is like tough, but it it

35:13

wouldn't have deterred me. I think

35:16

what would have deterred me was the way they

35:18

treat him. Like,

35:20

I'm really lucky in that I started

35:22

in a scene that didn't really have a lot

35:24

of that. At the time I started, it

35:28

it didn't have a lot of that energy to it, which like a lot

35:30

of smaller scenes do have, like Boston

35:32

is notorious for people

35:34

like that. And I think if

35:36

I'd been, like, hazed in that way, I

35:38

would've quit. I would've just been, like, these people

35:40

suck. I don't wanna be

35:42

around them. This is like

35:44

nasty. I'll just write or like I'll take

35:46

a sketch class or something. I won't do open

35:48

mics because these people are

35:50

mean. And I I need to

35:52

do my taxes. Like, don't pour water on the water on my fucking taxes,

35:55

dang good. Yeah. I

35:58

can't yeah. The hazing stuff has always irritated me.

36:00

It's one of the other reasons why I

36:02

felt like I want I went around the

36:06

line. By not doing -- Yeah. -- open mics after, a year.

36:08

I did a year of open mics and some

36:10

shows and then was like, I'm not

36:13

gonna do this. And then I

36:15

decided to do my thing, and then that's what ended up with me on

36:17

stage was, like, none of the it's

36:22

very like, especially in Columbus, I guess. So

36:24

I can't speak to any other

36:26

scenes, obviously. And this isn't a

36:28

big scene, but it does

36:30

feel like you

36:32

just get the vibe that nobody really likes you. And especially

36:34

the kind I get I

36:36

I always felt like the kind

36:40

of comedy I do,

36:42

the the sort of jokes, which is

36:44

it's still roughly kind of the same

36:46

thing, was stuff that

36:49

at that time fucking nobody was doing this, whatever

36:52

dirtbag stuff that they call it. You

36:54

know what I mean? In two

36:56

thousand eleven, that

36:58

that wasn't a style that

37:00

you did. Yeah. There was nobody doing

37:02

shit. There wasn't anybody talking about

37:04

payday advances and and doing, like, real

37:07

hard drugs and shit like

37:09

that. And like, the

37:12

other comics seem to really not like me. Like, not wanna

37:15

talk to me, not wanna spend any

37:17

time, you know, getting to know me

37:19

or anything like that. And

37:22

then one of the last nights I did it, I

37:24

we were sitting at a table and a

37:26

guy walked up to talk to us,

37:28

to to meet me and Brad

37:30

and because we've been around for a few months at

37:33

this point, for, like, six months at this point.

37:35

And he's like, hey, how you guys doing? We sit there,

37:37

and we have a conversation. And

37:41

it seemed like we were, like, having fun, just chatting with each other, joking

37:43

around. It was pretty fun. And then

37:45

he got called up on stage,

37:47

and he said, everything.

37:50

Like, he was just doing his material

37:52

to to -- Yeah. -- to get a

37:54

conversation. And I was like, I can't That's so bleak. This.

37:56

Yeah. This is not for me. I

37:58

didn't wanna end up like that. I didn't I

38:00

mean, and I also don't think I wanted

38:02

to end up like Bob Kelly. Or

38:04

or any of these people who

38:06

seem profoundly unhappy? Yeah. I mean,

38:09

it is like it it's

38:11

interesting to see And

38:14

and it's it's also interesting because, like, I don't I don't know Gary Gorman very well,

38:16

but I do know him a little bit. And

38:18

I, like, I know he is,

38:21

like, a really fanatical guy

38:24

about, like, comedy process and stuff.

38:26

And like that, like,

38:28

to my experience of touring

38:30

with comics, is a lot

38:32

of really boring shop talk

38:34

about that stuff. Because that's

38:36

what we're interested in. Like, that's what

38:38

we like. And these guys, like,

38:40

don't seem to ever talk about comedy. Like, they don't seem

38:42

to really enjoy what they're doing.

38:45

I mean, like, Dane

38:48

gives a couple sort of, like, faux introspective

38:50

interviews about it, but they're

38:52

all, like, really vague and weird.

38:54

Like, he's, like, I know something's

38:58

happening on this tour. I don't know what.

39:00

And it's like, what are you talking

39:02

about? That

39:02

was so funny.

39:03

But the rest of them, like, maybe

39:05

they just cut it out because it's boring, but like none of these guys really

39:07

seem to enjoy the act

39:09

of doing comedy. As much as they sort

39:11

of reference the fact that

39:14

they do, they don't behave like people who do.

39:16

Exactly. The clip I wanted to

39:18

play on here wasn't about

39:20

comedy process or anything, but

39:22

it was what

39:24

I found to be the most interesting part of what I was

39:26

watching, and it was the very poorly

39:30

acted pornod discussion.

39:32

Oh my god. That was

39:34

-- Yes. -- all the conflict between them

39:36

and this was so fake and weird

39:39

and pointless. Like, not interesting. To me again,

39:41

the interesting conflict would have been Bobby

39:43

Kelly's trying to steal the show. Like,

39:45

that's interesting conflict,

39:47

not mad we're talking about porno and so we're gonna

39:49

be mean to him and then he's gonna fake

39:52

cry. Well, I think also if we're gonna be

39:54

fair to

39:56

bobby he's way different than the other.

39:58

He is the most Yeah.

40:00

Like, he's an original

40:02

way different thing than everybody

40:05

else on this tour. And him

40:07

touring colleges is nuts to me. Like,

40:09

I remember that I used to

40:12

hear Patrice O'Neil talk about

40:14

college gigs. And I'm

40:16

like, why is he doing college

40:18

gigs? Like, that seems like it would just

40:20

be the worst possible place

40:22

for him to perform. And he

40:24

hated it, or you hear Bill Bird doing it? And

40:26

you're like, wow. That is

40:28

fucking crazy. And that's how this

40:30

felt with Bobby Kelly feels like he's

40:32

in that world. Of, like,

40:34

he's a club guy. He's a club

40:36

comic, and he is

40:38

that kind of aggressive you

40:42

know, he has that kind of aggressive style. Dan Cook doesn't do that.

40:44

That's something No. Cook is almost like

40:46

I know they didn't show much

40:49

of it, but it's I

40:51

mean, Dan Cook, I will say this. He's a much dirtier comedian

40:53

than I remember him being. I did --

40:55

Yeah. -- I had no

40:58

Very sexual. Oh,

41:00

yeah. Tons of it. Just and,

41:02

like, some real nasty stuff too. Like,

41:04

in vicious circle, some of his material

41:08

is like, you know, the you couldn't say that

41:10

now. Yeah.

41:12

Well, I like, the thing

41:14

I was thinking about I tweeted this

41:17

the other day when I was watching it because it's, like, truly what I

41:19

remember about comedy at that time was

41:21

that, like, you could

41:23

get like, a standing Ovation or applause break. If you

41:25

were just, like, a handsome,

41:28

like, straight but a little bit of

41:30

feminine, like, your t shirts are tailored type

41:32

of guy, who just

41:34

said taint a lot. People would go

41:36

insane. Like, if

41:38

you talked about your taint and didn't

41:40

seem embarrassed about it, people would be like,

41:43

tearing their hair out for you.

41:45

It was crazy. Dane was

41:47

like Dane is such

41:49

a weird thing because when you

41:51

start thinking about, like, what his material

41:53

I don't know, like, I would call it

41:55

a beat, I guess. You know, the

41:57

stuff I cover on

42:00

ten street fighter or whatever I'm

42:02

doing. That's that's the beat.

42:04

And I never I don't

42:06

feel like Dane has But

42:08

if he did have

42:10

one, he's he's a fucking sex

42:12

comic guy, which is -- Yeah. -- and

42:14

I think you know,

42:16

you you don't wanna I I don't like,

42:18

he was so popular with

42:21

young women and I think, you know, that's

42:24

the hardest group of people to get in

42:26

the stand up community.

42:28

Like, I'm not trying to I

42:30

I mean, you would know. But like

42:32

stand up comedy nerds or people that are in way

42:35

into stand up and have to go to

42:37

a stand up gig. Are

42:39

most like, it seems like

42:41

mostly dudes. So I think that's

42:43

another thing to throw in there about

42:45

the backlash against Dan Cook. It

42:47

might yet have also been a lot like the

42:50

backlash against boy bands and shit

42:52

like that where or He

42:54

was appealing to women. He was

42:56

people like women found him sexy, which is also, like, that's also

42:58

sort of a classic

43:01

thing that that male comics talk about with hecklers

43:03

is, like, when they get a male heckler, it's

43:06

often a guy with a

43:08

date who feels threatened by

43:10

the fact that they're making

43:12

the woman laugh. Like, that's

43:14

they're and they're trying to sort of assert

43:16

themselves. And so I could

43:18

definitely see that being an element of the day

43:20

in bath a glass. It's like, oh, this guy's

43:22

making all our all our women laugh

43:25

and he's cute and, like, yeah, his t

43:27

shirts fit really well. I just his tailored

43:29

t shirts really make me laugh. Oh, he's so

43:31

funny. I I like,

43:34

there's some I I got the notes of what happened, but there is stuff

43:36

where I am just like,

43:38

what the like, why

43:42

why I I guess, like, why

43:44

were they? I'm I'm

43:46

trying to see if there's any oh, yeah.

43:48

They ask in

43:50

that Gary Doleman article, they're they're like, I mean, it was also a very

43:52

broy vibe on that, but so I'll

43:54

I'll go to the thing, actually. Now that

43:57

not what so he goes They

44:00

wanted to they wanted to see Dane. Goldman goes, they wanted to see

44:02

Dane. I mean, show business is humbling on its

44:04

own, and then you get these extra

44:08

special humblings. And so it was fun

44:10

to be out on the road with Bob Kelly. We had a really great time. We'd been waiters

44:12

together growing up in Boston doing comedy,

44:14

so we had a really long history

44:18

together. But it was really

44:20

humbling. I was really trying to come to terms with the idea of being sort of

44:22

a Robin or a Scottie

44:24

Pippen to Dane's Batman or

44:28

Michael Jordan, which that said, because Goldman is by far the

44:31

most talented person on that. He's the only

44:33

one that has bits in this that

44:35

are still funny. Like,

44:38

Yeah. And what do you mean? He's drunk. I

44:40

liked that. I don't know We do. Because

44:42

he's like, I don't drink and he goes up

44:44

drunk. So

44:47

he goes I mean, so he

44:49

goes, yeah, which doesn't exactly fit you as I

44:51

know you now. So I'm wondering if you didn't

44:53

fit very well in that scene. He's like, right.

44:55

Yeah. The interesting thing is that I look like

44:58

a bro. Visually, you fit in

45:00

great. Yeah. Physically, I'm a bro, but

45:02

internally, I'm more of the guy who works at the coffee

45:04

shop and reads Cam us late

45:06

into the

45:06

night, which is very funny thing to say for anybody. I

45:08

mean Have you ever seen there's

45:11

this amazing bit? actually watched it because it

45:13

reminded when I saw Gary Goldman on this side, it reminded me,

45:15

do you know Chris Fleming? The

45:17

comic, he was

45:20

totally curling her anyway. He's very funny.

45:22

But he's very he's very

45:24

androgynous. He's a Boston comic who's kinda

45:26

like a generation below these guys.

45:29

He's like around my age. And

45:31

he's friends with Gary Gollman,

45:33

and he tells the

45:36

story about He moves it Chris

45:38

Fleming moves to LA, and Gary Goldman's like, I'm gonna introduce you to some

45:40

other comics from Boston who live in LA,

45:44

you know, you're new to town. We'll hang out. We'll have some common ground. Whatever.

45:47

And Chris Lemming says he's like, Gary

45:49

Goldman looks like an adonis, but on the inside,

45:51

he's like, balance the ash and

45:53

it's all just like like, trumpety, you

45:56

know, like, ethereal noises or whatever. But

45:58

anyway, so Gary Goldman's like, come to my

46:00

we're having a party this Sunday, come to my

46:03

friend's house. And it turns out the party is

46:05

the Super Bowl, and the house is

46:07

Dane Cook's house. And Chris

46:10

Harding tells a story about being

46:12

so uncomfortable that he

46:14

purchased on the armrest of

46:16

Bilbur's seat. It's like

46:18

just sort of like daintily perched

46:21

and tries to not make any sudden

46:23

movements so people forget he's there. And it's

46:25

very funny. That's an incredibly crowd.

46:27

I also wanted to say in

46:29

episode one of this. It

46:32

opens with with words on the

46:34

screen. Well, first of all,

46:36

it opens with the

46:38

most two

46:40

thousand five music combination of --

46:42

Yes. -- rapper.

46:43

Wolf mother. Yeah. It is

46:46

very two thousand

46:48

five. But It opens

46:50

with this this on the screen.

46:52

In two thousand five, Dan Cook

46:54

solidified his place in

46:56

comic history when his CD retaliation

46:58

skyrocketed to number four on the Billboard

47:00

charts, making it the highest charting

47:02

comedy album in twenty

47:04

five years. That same

47:06

year, Dane invited three

47:08

comics all at different stages of their

47:10

careers on a sold out tour

47:12

across the United States. This

47:14

is Tourgasm. I

47:18

hated. This is orgasm.

47:20

III just it

47:22

it's funny because he made the goddamn show. Is -- Yeah.

47:24

-- is the situation. What like, all

47:27

that stuff was written because

47:30

he wanted

47:32

to have that on. I can't believe HBO picked

47:34

up the show because it is not fucking

47:36

good. It

47:37

is. It's so bad. It

47:39

seems really homemade. Nothing

47:42

happens in it. There's

47:44

no, like, storyline. It's

47:46

very light on the

47:49

actual stand up. Like, it's not a stand up concert

47:51

film. It's so strange. I do

47:54

just two two thousand five reminded me that, like,

47:56

watching this, I was, like, I think This

47:58

contains the most two thousand five image

48:02

possible, which is Dean Cook riding a

48:04

segue. That is the most two

48:06

thousand five

48:07

a thing has ever been. What was that? Scene I had

48:09

a thought about too that I wrote

48:12

down. So Dane, they're on the

48:14

segue scooters

48:15

No. They're on scooters. It's not segues. In the first episode

48:18

In the first episode, they're riding, like, razors

48:20

scooters. Yeah. Motorized razors scooters.

48:24

And Dane Dang

48:26

gets knocked off the scooter by Bobby, which

48:28

is very funny. I mean -- It is. --

48:30

Bobby's job to to

48:32

actually do that.

48:34

But then when it's

48:36

over, Dane

48:38

is like, I think I broke a rib.

48:40

I think I'm hurt. And then just

48:42

walks over to Jake Jay Davis and knocks

48:44

him over. Yeah. And

48:46

it was such a like, holy

48:48

fuck dude, this is not all

48:51

in good fun for you.

48:53

That, like, actually made

48:55

you mad. Right. You need to

48:58

you're like monkey that needs to reassert its dominance. Like, I

49:00

gotta go pick on someone else. It is

49:02

very directly

49:04

yeah. I noticed that too.

49:06

Team. Reminded -- Yes. -- seeing a

49:08

teen boy when you would be hanging when I would

49:10

be hanging out with my friends and we'd

49:12

all be fucking busting balls and

49:14

doing whatever the fuck we're doing, you know, get schoolboying people

49:17

and and -- Yeah. -- running up behind

49:19

get just the stuff that

49:22

teenage boys do. The Atomic Elbow,

49:24

Dusty Rhodes, Atomic Elbow, was there

49:26

was a whole school year where you

49:30

you couldn't walk down the hall without somebody running a wrap

49:32

running behind you and going, like, doing their

49:34

arms and saying, dusty, and

49:36

it just not going ahead. And

49:39

when you do that, but when that there would be certain

49:41

people when that happened to them that they'd be

49:43

ready to fucking

49:44

go. That would be ready to

49:46

get into a fight. And Dane

49:49

And Dane Cook could get an

49:51

He is he is thirty

49:53

three years old. In two thousand

49:55

five. Jesus. He's thirty three years old. Well and that's

49:57

the other

49:58

thing is his girlfriend comes at

50:00

the end of episode three. I

50:03

did look it up she was

50:05

twenty three years old

50:05

too. Oh, yep.

50:06

Two. We'll

50:06

be because we know what his

50:09

girl like, his he His taste.

50:11

But the album, he's dating

50:14

when she was

50:15

fifteen, I think, is what? Yeah. But the the math that's been

50:17

worked out, which is wrong. That is actually It's

50:19

a dang cookie. It's

50:22

really up. Yeah. If a fifty year old man was trying to date my daughter,

50:24

it would not make me feel

50:26

four three years

50:27

ago, if a fifty three

50:29

years ago. We tried to take my

50:32

daughter three years ago. That would

50:34

have been a problem. So

50:36

then on the bus, When they do get

50:38

into the porn fight, that is when you

50:40

first realized, like, they they planned

50:42

all this shit. Like, I have

50:44

a doc coming out

50:46

called Yelp stompist that I think will be out by the

50:48

time this even airs

50:50

on means, where -- Nice. --

50:52

where they came with us on

50:54

the road to

50:56

the hellfire tour. It was us,

50:58

the Sams from district

51:00

center. Much better name than than Thank

51:03

you. Much better. And then the troubleies.

51:06

We don't know what you got. This is the first time we've this

51:08

is the second time we've met the troubleies.

51:11

But we just spent one night with them. We went to a gig

51:13

they put on and we hung

51:15

out. And this

51:18

tour I I guess

51:20

it's good. I'm not I can't. There's no

51:22

way I'm gonna be able to watch this documentary. First

51:24

of all, it's gonna be me standing

51:26

around smoking, and it's gonna make me wanna

51:28

get back to smoking again. Is

51:31

are you carrying around your big

51:33

box fan in this in this documentary? The

51:35

Hell yeah. The band is in the

51:37

car, the cigarettes, All this stuff I

51:39

do on tour is all

51:41

fucking there. But like Oh,

51:43

yeah. We didn't have to they never

51:45

made us do

51:47

anything. At all. Yeah. Like, they never said, hey, guys. Well, that's you

51:50

you guys are naturally entertaining and

51:52

have rapport with one another, and you

51:54

don't need to be coached into like,

51:59

saying things. Yeah. Now and then they

52:01

would be like, hey, how do you feel about this? Or how

52:03

do you feel about that? Sure. And then you just say

52:05

how you feel and move

52:08

away. And he would take other some of us

52:10

on the out at a separate time

52:12

and and film us and film us

52:15

you know, all drugs and shit like that.

52:18

And it was like

52:20

watching this, I was like, why

52:22

couldn't they just do that?

52:25

Why did they have to -- Yeah. -- and and when

52:27

they get into the argument about

52:29

porno, it really made me so

52:31

they get into an argument

52:33

where Dane and Bobby

52:36

are and well, Gary kind

52:38

of, but not really, are talking about

52:40

porno. And they ask Jay what

52:43

his favorite porno is. And it was

52:46

fairly obvious that he was told

52:48

to say that he doesn't like

52:50

porno. I I just don't

52:52

think that it didn't feel like his heart was in

52:54

because they were like, well, why why don't you

52:56

like porno? He's like, oh,

52:58

it's just I don't know.

53:00

What are you supposed to say? We're gonna talk about

53:02

porno the whole time. We're talking about it for

53:04

twenty minutes. What are we gonna do? Talk about it

53:06

for another twenty five minutes.

53:08

Like, that's the conversation. And then he

53:10

gets Bobby yells at him and

53:12

says, no. It's talking about

53:14

sex. We're just talking about

53:16

reminding me other than we

53:18

like chicks. And I was like that. It's two

53:20

thousand five baby. Yeah.

53:22

Yeah. Yeah. But it's so

53:24

funny because it's

53:26

like it's that is so two thousand five, and I feel like that is kind of

53:28

the Dan Cook thing where it's

53:30

like, we're we're reminding you that we all

53:32

like chick's but also all of

53:34

this is like a little bit gay. Like,

53:36

we're trying to show you that we're

53:38

progressive by allowing this to be a little

53:40

gay, but all in the

53:42

service of reinforcing our heterosexuality. It's very

53:44

weird. We gotta remind people that we

53:46

like chicks, man, and he's like, I'm trying to

53:48

be celibate. Would, first of all,

53:50

that was

53:52

I think this Oh, that was like the fake ish shit ever, where he's

53:54

like, no, I don't watch porn because, like, how

53:56

are you gonna find the right girl? If you're

53:59

watching for. It's like, why are you talking about?

54:01

He was talking about that. He was very --

54:04

Absolutely. -- to do that. To make the

54:06

show, to

54:08

put friction on the show. And

54:10

then him and Bobby get into an

54:12

argument. And one of

54:14

if you ever if if you wanna watch this,

54:16

if you wanna follow along with us,

54:18

all I can say is that, like, when they make up from

54:20

this fight, it is truly the

54:22

fakest thing I've ever seen. Yes.

54:26

Was so bad. Yeah. Bobby's like, oh, fine. I won't bust your balls anymore,

54:28

which by the way, if somebody said that,

54:30

I mean, I'd be like, good. Don't I

54:34

don't I don't like

54:34

it. It's not

54:35

fun. That's the thing. Like, I don't know.

54:37

I mean, obviously, I, like, tease my friends

54:40

or whatever,

54:42

but,

54:42

like, if you're in comedy and someone

54:45

and anyone like does

54:47

this implication that you have to put up with

54:49

that kind of shit, you don't. don't

54:52

get to talk to you that way if you don't want them

54:54

to. Like, especially people you're not actually

54:56

friends with. That is not a requirement.

54:59

It's so bizarre. I I think that attitude

55:01

has mostly gone away, but,

55:03

like, it it was there for a long time. I

55:05

mean, it was there when I

55:08

started, and sometimes you just have to be like, no, you don't get to dodge me that

55:10

way. What the fuck? Absolutely not.

55:12

So an episode two, the thing that piss

55:14

me off.

55:16

Was when they fly from

55:18

North Dakota to New Orleans

55:21

-- Jada. --

55:24

betrays the absolutely cheating.

55:26

Premise of the show. Like, they all

55:28

flew separately across the country.

55:32

Hey. Like, that's

55:34

that's nothing. And then they go

55:36

the North Dakota stuff where they're riding the

55:38

horses is just so

55:40

boring. There is a bizling

55:44

fucking. There's nothing happening. The the That's when I

55:46

looked it up and saw there were nine episodes, and

55:48

I was like, why? Why is the

55:50

side episodes? I mean, where is this in

55:53

here? a tough time with his horse.

55:56

That's the whole everybody else is like, hey,

55:58

we're out. And it's not

55:59

even that funny and he's not

56:01

being funny about it. It's just something that's

56:03

happening. He's miserable.

56:06

I did say

56:06

Jay Davis looks like a number thirty

56:09

one radio market DJ. So if anybody else

56:11

He does. Maybe that's what he's doing

56:13

now. Yep. Maybe. Yeah.

56:16

Also, here's

56:18

another thing. They super mic the

56:20

audience for the TV show in --

56:22

Mhmm. -- I mean, we're wrestling fans.

56:24

We know how that works. If

56:26

you don't

56:28

You gotta mic the audience, but the goal

56:30

is to mic the audience in a way

56:32

that people can't tell you mic the audience. Not

56:36

Yep. The loudest pop I've ever heard in my entire

56:38

life for

56:39

danger. Not. I

56:42

wish I can play that pop. It's the

56:46

loudest it's just the loudest audience of all time, and it's

56:48

because the mic is in the middle of the fucking

56:50

room. Yeah. In the

56:52

middle of the audience, it's so

56:54

frustrating. But

56:56

yeah. They go to Bourbon Street where there's a part where they're

56:58

in Bourbon

56:59

Street, Kathy, when they're talking to these

57:01

girls, and Bobby's like, oh, we're I

57:04

had to I had to, like

57:06

I I don't know if I muted it or,

57:08

like, that I was so uncomfortable during that.

57:10

I couldn't couldn't stand it. But

57:13

anyway, lean it for for our listeners. The girls

57:15

are kinda flirting with them and asking them

57:17

where they're going. Likely because it's dang cooked

57:19

or they have they

57:22

see the camera. Because a lot of times if you're walking around with somebody with a camera,

57:24

everybody stops and looks at you. My

57:26

neighbor has never talked

57:29

to me and time I've lived here.

57:31

He's talked to Katie again. I think he's

57:33

a friend of me, which is a thing

57:36

that happens in my

57:38

life because received as

57:40

being surly at times.

57:44

And when we're doing that

57:46

hellfire Tourgasm fucking

57:48

got I I we

57:51

pulled up. I got out of the car

57:53

and I was being filmed. Walking into

57:55

my house and my neighborhood's

57:55

like, what's that all about? My neighbor's like,

57:58

what are they filming you? And I had to, like,

58:00

explain it.

58:02

That guy's never been interested in me, not even for one fucking

58:04

second. So -- Yeah. -- chances

58:07

are people saw them being

58:10

filmed. And then started to

58:12

flirt with them. And then Bobby goes, we're

58:15

gay. And they act

58:17

like it's so uncomfortable because they're

58:19

like, oh, we're gay. And then when they walk away, Dane's like,

58:21

I can't I can't believe we don't

58:23

wear gay. So

58:26

that's what I mean about it. It's like,

58:29

It's like being homophobic was

58:31

like progressive somehow. Then,

58:34

like, it's such a weird,

58:36

like, inside

58:38

out calculus of words like acknowledging

58:40

that people are gay is funny.

58:42

I it's so weird.

58:44

It's very strange. But, yeah, that

58:47

that whole thing just I I died

58:49

a little bit. I couldn't watch it. I was, like,

58:51

watching it through my fingers. Well, and then

58:53

I have to well, there's

58:55

the climbing gym which is another -- Yep. -- another fucking

58:57

outing. I'd be so mad --

59:00

Yeah. -- so mad if someone's like,

59:02

alright, get

59:04

off fucking tour bus that you're probably all achy because, like, tour bus

59:06

beds are tiny and weird. Now you have to

59:08

go climb a wall with Dane

59:10

Cook. Six. With the guy who

59:12

is who

59:14

is, like, humbling you every night because

59:16

everyone who you're performing

59:18

for is just killing time until

59:20

he comes out And now he's,

59:22

like, the fascist of your tour

59:24

bus. Mhmm. An awful

59:26

awful. And he's I I was the

59:28

fastest at climbing. And he's like, let me if

59:30

I can break my record. And they're all standing

59:32

there watching them climb. And you're just

59:34

like, fuck. Wow. Man, he's

59:36

showing that he's the fastest climber. It's

59:39

like motherfuckers. They can't afford a physical trainer. I

59:41

could break. Yeah. If

59:44

any of them had a trainer, they'd

59:46

be able to at least try to pull up, but he's just showing can do it. And

59:49

that happens something happens later on

59:51

in episode three. But I I wanna say

59:53

that quote that you had,

59:56

I I quoted that all the way at the end episode two, where he

59:58

goes, torturing is having an

1:00:00

effect on everyone. I don't know

1:00:02

what it is, but you can see

1:00:04

it happening. I

1:00:06

don't know what the effect is, but there is an effect. What

1:00:08

the fuck are you talking about? Yeah.

1:00:10

I'll I I wanna tell

1:00:14

I talk about a a little let down I had real quick. They did

1:00:16

do a Chicago show in episode

1:00:18

three, and I was just crossing

1:00:20

my fingers for a man cow appearance.

1:00:22

Like, I thought Yeah. Man

1:00:24

cow. I didn't go on fucking man.

1:00:26

I'm sort of surprised there hasn't been any

1:00:28

morning radio. Because like you said, this is kind

1:00:30

of pre Dan

1:00:32

Cook being Huge. But, you know, if it's colleges, you

1:00:34

don't need to. And,

1:00:36

Bobby, because it's all it's all, like,

1:00:38

closed. I think there's

1:00:40

also that frot relationship with more like, Bob

1:00:42

Bob Kelly, I don't think, would be welcome

1:00:44

on a lot of morning radio

1:00:46

shows. It's probably a yes

1:00:50

of the opiant Anthony stuff. Yeah. And

1:00:52

also they don't wanna piss off opiant

1:00:54

Anthony because they're sort of, you know --

1:00:56

Right. -- they

1:00:58

have this thing and they have a big

1:01:00

audience and they can turn people

1:01:00

on. So a lot of times, a lot of these guys didn't do morning

1:01:03

radio. They wouldn't do something

1:01:05

like ManCal because

1:01:08

Right. It's a competition. Yeah. And

1:01:10

It's just like that that to me

1:01:11

is like what do I think about. And he's not really

1:01:14

he's not

1:01:16

doing like, classic road comedy

1:01:18

touring in this at all, which as

1:01:20

you said, it's like very unrealistic for a lot

1:01:24

of Going from college to college and the tour bus isn't really like this, but,

1:01:26

like, when I think about sort of

1:01:28

the, quote unquote, the road,

1:01:30

it's like, you go to the place

1:01:32

where the comedy club is and then you do their local

1:01:34

boarding radio show to promote it. Yes. Like,

1:01:36

that's that's the the

1:01:38

your daily schedule. Like, the MC

1:01:41

wakes up at four thirty in the morning to

1:01:43

drive you to the radio gig and then you sleep

1:01:45

until it's time to go to the Comedy Club and

1:01:47

then you perform, which like I guess,

1:01:49

when you do colleges, you don't need to do that because it's

1:01:51

all the students. Yeah. Well, Dan

1:01:53

gets on a private jet to go to New

1:01:55

York to do five minutes at

1:01:58

MSG. And see it down there. And then he flew back to Michigan

1:02:00

to do the show. Now the reason I'm bringing

1:02:03

that up is,

1:02:06

they they put the camera on Bobby, Jay,

1:02:08

and Gary, and have

1:02:11

them saying, if Diane Cook doesn't

1:02:13

get here, they're gonna riot. We're

1:02:15

gonna have real trouble if Dane is gonna

1:02:17

get here. Yeah. A big

1:02:20

fucking problem, which that's

1:02:22

some Dane

1:02:24

psychology that that was added into the show. But also the theme with

1:02:26

Barry Katz, he's

1:02:28

ever been an agent, but Bobby. And for some reason,

1:02:30

he just tells them they're not putting in a hundred percent.

1:02:33

And, that would be one thing if you saw

1:02:36

them bomb that they that

1:02:38

Right. What you know is that they do some

1:02:40

jokes and in a crowd screen,

1:02:42

You don't hear any

1:02:43

jokes. Right. Like that to me would be the

1:02:46

interesting show if we were talking about

1:02:48

how what's going on on stage

1:02:50

as a affecting the power

1:02:52

dynamics between them. Like, that to

1:02:54

me is interesting. But, yeah, you

1:02:56

don't really see them. And you

1:02:58

also like Also, like, what

1:03:00

is he talking about? Because

1:03:02

all of these people are just there to see Dan

1:03:04

Cook. Like Yeah. It doesn't No

1:03:06

one's gonna yeah. It

1:03:08

does, like, They're all along to do this reality show. It

1:03:10

doesn't matter how they do on stage.

1:03:12

Absolutely. So and

1:03:14

right. If you're it's hard to open

1:03:16

for people

1:03:18

any way. You know? Like, people are there to see one

1:03:20

specific thing, generally. And that

1:03:23

Yeah. I mean, like, if you're

1:03:25

opening for someone Nice and

1:03:28

who has nice fans.

1:03:30

Yeah. And isn't just like

1:03:32

a a

1:03:34

list comedian? Like, I think it's fine. I have no problem with the fact

1:03:36

that, like, nobody is there to see

1:03:38

me. You know what I mean? But I think

1:03:40

opening for Dean Cook in two thousand five at

1:03:42

a college I wouldn't wish that

1:03:44

on anyone. It seems really

1:03:46

hard. The next bit of bullying

1:03:48

here is Jay getting a rash.

1:03:50

Jay gets a

1:03:52

fucking rash. And he has anxiety about it, and

1:03:54

they just keep poking his

1:03:56

anxiety. They gaslight him about his

1:03:58

fucking rash.

1:04:00

For hours apparently. It felt like a nightmare.

1:04:02

But the way the way we're gonna

1:04:04

wrap this up here is

1:04:08

the go cart situation.

1:04:10

They go -- Yeah. -- to a go

1:04:12

cart place. And it's

1:04:16

the most It's insane

1:04:19

because Bobby wins.

1:04:21

He wrecks Dane. He he

1:04:23

ends up wrecking into

1:04:26

Dan Cook. And Bobby wins. He gets the trophy.

1:04:28

And Dan Cook is

1:04:30

pissed. Unlike he's really fucking

1:04:32

pissed. He This

1:04:34

is like a fucking, like,

1:04:36

Kim Jong Un situation where, like, you

1:04:38

gotta let him win. Like, he's

1:04:40

the he's the totalitarian

1:04:42

dictator. You have to let him think he's the best

1:04:44

echo cards. It's just not gonna go

1:04:46

well for you. Otherwise, you're gonna get executed. And they seem like they're they

1:04:49

do try to salvage it

1:04:52

and be like, oh, Dane's just joking

1:04:54

around at the end.

1:04:56

But, like, before

1:04:58

he does he is

1:05:00

pissed off -- He's mad.

1:05:02

-- that he didn't win.

1:05:04

And it was like, that

1:05:07

that was almost like the the point I think

1:05:09

where I decided I don't like Dan

1:05:11

Cook out through this whole thing because

1:05:13

you know what? We

1:05:15

watch Good luck Chuck. It fucking was a shit ass

1:05:18

movie, but it's like whatever, you

1:05:20

know. Well, actually in Good

1:05:22

luck Chuck. Dang

1:05:24

Cook has has his character

1:05:27

fucks like thirty there's a

1:05:29

montage of him fucking thirty

1:05:32

different women. In that

1:05:34

movie that goes on for

1:05:36

a very long time.

1:05:38

But more than you would think like, you're

1:05:40

watching, you're like, It's different women. He's just fucking everything. And it's

1:05:42

still going. Yep. Okay. And

1:05:44

you're like, yeah. Dan Cooks gets a lot of

1:05:46

yeah. We get it. And

1:05:49

then in mister Brooks, he's not

1:05:52

bad. And mister Brooks, I mean, it's

1:05:54

not a good movie. It's not

1:05:56

bad. And he's just a regular guy in

1:05:58

that movie. You know? I

1:06:00

understand, like, I I

1:06:02

get the appeal at the time.

1:06:04

Like, I do. I as a

1:06:06

part, he's care he's

1:06:08

very charismatic. He does as I said, he

1:06:10

has kind of a unique sort of, like, voice and sort of way

1:06:12

about him. Like, I get it.

1:06:15

But, yeah, then see him the way he actually

1:06:18

objectively behaves. And it's

1:06:20

like, your charm is not saving you

1:06:22

here. Like,

1:06:24

this is specifically. Because it is. It

1:06:26

is. Like, when you're thinking about, like so

1:06:28

then I watch vicious circle, and me and John

1:06:30

didn't like vicious circle. Neither one of

1:06:32

us like the special I think what

1:06:34

do you think his best thing is? I think it's probably

1:06:36

retaliation. Right? It has, like Well, but

1:06:38

the best thing bitch's circle is.

1:06:40

Hour and forty minutes is the most insane

1:06:42

length for a comedy special that

1:06:45

I can ever possibly think I

1:06:48

decided to do this, I thought, well,

1:06:50

there will be some episodes where I just have to

1:06:52

watch out comedy special. It'd be forty five

1:06:54

minutes to an hour. And when I saw

1:06:56

an hour forty one, I was like, what the fuck?

1:06:58

This kinda doesn't have an hour forty

1:07:00

one for the material. Even

1:07:02

if you did. You you shouldn't do it all in a row. Like,

1:07:04

that's not enjoyable. Yeah.

1:07:06

But I didn't like that special, but

1:07:08

I I think I kind of thought when

1:07:11

like, well, you you see why people could like

1:07:13

them. Now this is the first

1:07:16

time through this whole

1:07:17

thing where I'm like, I don't think this

1:07:20

guy is is very

1:07:22

likable. I I don't I don't

1:07:24

think he seems like a good guy and

1:07:26

I watched him He's got a

1:07:28

real, like, edge, like a

1:07:30

real unflattering edge to his

1:07:32

personality that that comes out occasionally

1:07:34

and you're like, oh,

1:07:36

you're not You're not as fun as you're pretending to be. And I

1:07:38

watched him on Logan

1:07:39

Paul's podcast. It was one of the things -- Oh. Oh.

1:07:41

-- and like everyone

1:07:44

said, yeah, I watch him on Theo Von's podcast. And,

1:07:46

like, I I truly don't know

1:07:48

that he's ever learned anything in

1:07:51

his entire life. Like, because they

1:07:54

ask him what the backlash

1:07:56

is. And there's just not

1:07:58

a thing in his body that thinks

1:08:00

maybe he had something to do with

1:08:01

it. And Yeah. And it is

1:08:03

it to me, from what I can gather,

1:08:06

I'm not gonna listen to everything he does,

1:08:08

but he was releasing these very long

1:08:10

albums every

1:08:12

year And I just think he burned his material, and

1:08:14

he got to a point. Like so

1:08:16

next week, I'm

1:08:19

doing isolated incident. Which is

1:08:21

a newer one. It was done in front of four hundred people

1:08:24

at the

1:08:28

last factory. And it's supposed to be

1:08:30

the one where he talked about his brother ripping him off and, like, he

1:08:32

gets more personal is

1:08:34

what they say. Mhmm. Now,

1:08:37

that could mean that I end up liking him a little more after it,

1:08:39

but it could also mean that much like this,

1:08:42

when I see more of

1:08:44

him I

1:08:47

like him less. Yeah. Yeah.

1:08:49

Yeah. Maybe if he kept everything

1:08:51

to, like, forty five minutes like

1:08:53

you should with a comedy

1:08:55

set, Maybe we'd be talking about,

1:08:55

actually really good. People need to reevaluate

1:08:58

Dan Koch. I think he's butt. Yeah.

1:09:00

The more

1:09:02

you see him, then Yes. That's the thing. He has this

1:09:04

dark this darkness to him that is

1:09:06

not I mean, a lot of

1:09:08

comics have kind of a

1:09:10

a dark energy to them. But

1:09:13

his is not compelling to me.

1:09:15

It is nine. I think the darkness in

1:09:18

him is I'm very successful. Everybody's jealous because

1:09:20

I'm I'm

1:09:22

successful. And It's teen

1:09:25

boy stuff, like you said. It's

1:09:27

it's total reaction. It's like,

1:09:29

yeah. You're you're jealous of me.

1:09:31

I'm the best. I gotta be the

1:09:34

best. I'm, you know, don't don't challenge

1:09:36

my position. Type

1:09:39

stuff. Like, everything comes from that reaction if I

1:09:41

need to protect my position. You don't know what it reminds

1:09:43

me of in a white now? He

1:09:45

didn't do anything that's bad. I'm just saying. But

1:09:47

I I think he reminds me in a way of

1:09:49

of Bill Cosby, a guy. No. No.

1:09:51

He's a rapist. I'm not saying that.

1:09:53

No. I know what you mean. I

1:09:55

am saying that like Bill Cosby was

1:09:58

a guy who was deemed a family organic com comedian PG.

1:10:00

He yelled at people

1:10:03

who did dirty jokes and

1:10:05

stuff like that. He had this,

1:10:07

like, real darkness inside of him

1:10:09

that whole time where he was

1:10:11

drugging women and stuff like that. And

1:10:13

I don't think Dan Koch is, like, drugging women. I don't I don't think

1:10:15

he's a woman. He's just slimy. Yeah. And

1:10:18

and it's it

1:10:21

it doesn't match his material. He seems like he

1:10:23

does not seem nice. When you watch this

1:10:27

orgasm, it feels like the other three

1:10:30

guys are afraid of him. And it seems like it's mine. Yeah. Well, that's and

1:10:32

that's, like, I I

1:10:34

think that's interesting because I

1:10:36

I agree. It doesn't match his material, but

1:10:39

it's like his material is really dirty. Mhmm. But again, he has this energy where, like, women really

1:10:43

responded to him. Not that they thought

1:10:46

he was, like, a safe person or anything necessarily, but, like, he has this sort

1:10:48

of comfort with himself in

1:10:50

his material and with, like, these

1:10:54

things that are supposed to be really embarrassing that,

1:10:57

like, make him seem very

1:10:59

secure and then you see him

1:11:01

stage, you're like, this is

1:11:03

an extremely insecure person. He's not

1:11:05

disrespectful at all. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

1:11:07

Like, it's it's he

1:11:09

seems like he's projecting this vulnerability that comes with when you're securing yourself. And then you see the way he treats

1:11:12

these people and you're like, this is

1:11:14

a this is a total act. This is

1:11:16

not. Guy

1:11:19

is. Yeah. This is the first time I've seen that in them. So so

1:11:21

we got one last thing left to do

1:11:23

path, and it

1:11:26

is it is how we end every episode and now we're cooking.

1:11:28

And we asked the question, I'll

1:11:30

answer first so you know, are

1:11:34

we cooking? And my answer is, no.

1:11:36

I will never. I will

1:11:38

never watch these three episodes

1:11:41

of this show ever

1:11:43

again. I have no desire to

1:11:45

see the other episodes. However, mate, you said there's nine or

1:11:47

twelve. There's nine. I could never I think.

1:11:49

I could never watch

1:11:51

three times more. Of

1:11:54

this I know and I was telling I was telling

1:11:56

Kate, my wife. I was like, they're twenty

1:11:59

eight minutes too. She's like, why don't you

1:12:01

just watch the whole thing? Because we're we're kinda

1:12:03

talking about it. And I didn't mention this,

1:12:05

Gwen came in the room while I was

1:12:07

watching the orgasm because I was watching it

1:12:09

down in the living

1:12:10

room. I would generally go in my office and watch bad stuff,

1:12:12

the bad stuff I watch. I would go in my

1:12:14

office

1:12:14

and watch or watch out my phones. Into

1:12:16

the bad stuff chamber? Yeah.

1:12:19

And so I went I was out in the

1:12:21

living room, I was tired. I was just trying to relax. I was like, I'll just

1:12:23

watch tourgas. I'm here. She came in a room, and it was during

1:12:25

one of the

1:12:28

performance scenes. And she goes, this

1:12:30

is really not funny. This is really bad.

1:12:34

This is like don't remember seeing it was. It might been during

1:12:36

somebody's material, but then a couple

1:12:38

hours later, she fucking I'm

1:12:42

downstairs playing with my

1:12:44

Legos. And she comes in. She comes in.

1:12:46

She we're we're kinda having a conversation. She was like, you know, sometimes

1:12:48

I think about your job and I'm

1:12:50

like, he's so lucky. He doesn't have

1:12:54

to do anything. It's, like, the easiest job

1:12:56

in the world. And she was, like, when I

1:12:58

saw when I see some of the

1:13:00

stuff you have to watch, I

1:13:02

you, and I know how hard your

1:13:04

job is. And I was just like, well, this is

1:13:06

all I have to do. So it's not bad.

1:13:09

I think

1:13:10

where you should respect me. I'm glad you respect my job

1:13:12

because I had to

1:13:14

watch orgasm. That's very

1:13:17

touching. That's very sweet

1:13:19

of quid. But, Kathy, Are

1:13:21

you cooking? Are we cooking? We

1:13:23

are absolutely not cooking. III

1:13:27

to love if you have any material from this

1:13:30

that you've that you've picked out as your

1:13:32

favorite, but I think my

1:13:34

favorite joke. First of all, I

1:13:37

looked this up on Wikipedia to see how

1:13:39

many of is one

1:13:42

line and it says,

1:13:45

salon dot com writer, Heather Heberlevski, described the series

1:13:47

as, quote, the least worthwhile series to ever air

1:13:51

on HBO. Oh, Luis CK,

1:13:54

which, you know, we know about him now, but I play Sure. I had a clip of him on

1:13:56

Opie and Anthony

1:13:59

where he said, they were

1:14:02

talking about orgasm and he was

1:14:04

like, it sucked it. Nobody liked

1:14:06

it. And and Bob Kelly is

1:14:08

like, in the room too. They're all on

1:14:10

Opiant Anthony and Bob Kelly's like, hey, I'm not gonna say anything. And Louie was like, well,

1:14:13

my show

1:14:16

was on before orgasm. So I got to look

1:14:18

at how great it was dropped off every night.

1:14:20

And then by the

1:14:22

end, nobody was watching it.

1:14:24

It's like a two minute clip.

1:14:27

It's so mean, but it is like the reception to this was not good. will

1:14:31

I end in in my summation of why we're not cooking.

1:14:34

I will end with my the joke that has

1:14:38

I texted this to somebody when it came up because it's just

1:14:40

so perfect, which is Jay Davis

1:14:42

in the first episode says he's

1:14:46

talking about hurricane names Presumably he's talking about Hurricane

1:14:48

Katrina, which is insane. It's just

1:14:50

an added piece of context to

1:14:53

this joke, but he says, He's clearly talking

1:14:55

about how, like, Curt Caves to Train is a nice

1:14:57

name or something. He's like, we should name

1:15:00

hurricanes after

1:15:02

somebody nobody likes. That's we should name after mean people.

1:15:04

We should name a hurricane

1:15:06

after my ex. Yeah. It'd

1:15:10

be called hurricane bitch. Yeah.

1:15:12

How much that's the punch line.

1:15:14

That that's it. Most two thousand

1:15:17

nine joke. I I Hurricane

1:15:19

bitch. Yeah. My ex girlfriend. She's a bitch. Yeah. And and

1:15:21

also just it's perfect because it's coming

1:15:23

out of the nice

1:15:26

guy. To Yes. All of his other materials you see the rest

1:15:28

of the time is all about how nice he is. And the

1:15:30

one other joke you see him do

1:15:34

is hurricane

1:15:34

bitch. I assume he life acres

1:15:36

out, kill them with kindness by the

1:15:39

end. Probably. I hated when

1:15:41

he said said, I'm

1:15:44

kinda like the BTK killer, but I'm

1:15:46

actually -- Oh. -- ELC

1:15:47

killer, and

1:15:49

I'm like, especially because then he spells

1:15:51

out what TLC means. Like, he can't laugh.

1:15:53

He's like, you know, tender love and care.

1:15:55

We're like, if they're not gonna get it,

1:15:57

that's not gonna make them laugh. It's so boss. Left eye

1:16:00

in Chile. We

1:16:00

know it's so bad. Unless you're

1:16:03

talking about killing them,

1:16:05

which is actually you know, I'd I'd listen to that, Joe.

1:16:08

And Maybe that has legs. Yeah.

1:16:10

Who knows? Well Yeah. Cap, I

1:16:12

I loved doing this. It was so

1:16:14

fucking fun. I thought it was really fun

1:16:17

to do with somebody that I've

1:16:19

toured with. Yeah. I am Thank you for having me. My dang cook.

1:16:22

I am naive. No.

1:16:25

I'm a pain in the ass and Kath

1:16:27

did see me carrying my fan and my pants falling down. But You know what?

1:16:29

That wasn't on purpose. I

1:16:32

was just we

1:16:34

we had to run we were

1:16:36

staying at a hotel. The checkout time was eleven and we

1:16:38

thought it was noon and we had to leave fast.

1:16:42

We had to scramble out of the hotel. I think

1:16:44

that was probably the crankiest. No. I have

1:16:46

I have only good memories of

1:16:49

that

1:16:49

tour. That was that was a lot of fun.

1:16:51

I love that fucking tour. I I've even They got to

1:16:53

perform in a wrestling ring. It was awesome. And with that, kicked ass, and

1:16:56

also the the

1:16:58

other thing. We had a wedding at one of

1:17:01

our the At that old blues hall, that

1:17:03

was that was cool. It was so strange.

1:17:05

We had a wedding, and I'm sure the

1:17:07

person that got married listen, but the guy kept

1:17:09

looking at me and Brett the whole time instead of the woman. And

1:17:11

I was like, no, you gotta you're

1:17:14

in love with her, not They

1:17:16

just were standing here. They put the

1:17:18

mic in my hand. Like, they wanted

1:17:21

me to goof on it. Like, wanted me to

1:17:23

come -- Yeah. -- remember because they put a nobody else had a mic. They

1:17:25

put a mic in my end or, like, just say whatever you

1:17:28

want. Yeah. I'm like, I know

1:17:30

what?

1:17:30

I'm like, I'm not gonna comment

1:17:32

your wedding. It's your wedding. Yeah. But it was wild.

1:17:34

It

1:17:34

was a fun tour and it was nothing like this.

1:17:39

And this just absolutely not. The darkness and dang cook. So we're

1:17:41

not cooking. Yeah. And honestly, I don't

1:17:43

know what order these are gonna come

1:17:45

out, but I'll say this. We've only

1:17:47

been cooking one

1:17:48

time. Time. We cooked

1:17:50

once. What was it for? Or is it not? What can you not say? Miss mister

1:17:51

Brooks is cooking.

1:17:54

We were cooked I

1:17:57

You know what? It's hard to find.

1:17:59

You can't buy it in the United States. I had to use a VPN and watch it on Mexico

1:18:04

Netflix. But It's

1:18:06

not bad. He's pretty good. And Kevin Coster is really the star. So Yeah.

1:18:08

Alright. Everybody will be

1:18:10

back next week with something

1:18:15

I don't know what it's gonna be. I haven't written

1:18:17

it out, but this was fun. Thanks

1:18:19

for doing it, Kath. Yeah.

1:18:21

Thank you. Thanks for listening everybody.

1:18:23

I can find you. Goddamn

1:18:25

it. It's all good. You

1:18:27

can find me on my one

1:18:30

of my podcasts one of them is called, what a time to be alive. I

1:18:32

do that with Patrick Monaghan and UI Yun.

1:18:34

I just had Patty on to do gut

1:18:36

shot.

1:18:38

Oh, hell yeah. I'm sure he loved that

1:18:40

whole

1:18:41

podcast. Well, the good thing about

1:18:43

gunshot is you watch it

1:18:45

with me. You you don't have to watch

1:18:47

gut You to in We it it. So But,

1:18:53

yeah, that comes out over a week. We

1:18:55

talk about stupid news stories from the past week. And other podcast is lie cheat and steal, just

1:18:57

a true crime podcast about liar's fraud,

1:18:59

thieves and bullshitters. We

1:19:03

do two free episodes a month and two on our Patreon. I'm Kath

1:19:05

Barbadoro on social media, and I live in

1:19:07

New York, and I do stand

1:19:09

up comedy around New York. So

1:19:11

follow me there. Thank you.

1:19:14

She's great. Everybody likes it. Thanks. Wonderful. Have a good night everybody. Enjoy. Bye

1:19:16

bye.