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What contacts written or otherwise have

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you had with Dean Jenkins since the 31st

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of October two thousand and six

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Did you have raised any emails in the

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days after the robbery? Isn't it

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going to plead guilty? Jills

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sitting in a cold wood paneled room,

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legs crossed, foot tapping impatiently

0:46

on the floor. Beside

0:48

her is her Federation rep and Allied

0:50

Peter Dickinson. And across

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the table, two detectives from Kent

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Police. It's nearly

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four PM and forty minutes of

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interrogation has felt like forty

1:01

hours.

1:02

I felt a bit frustrated because I couldn't help

1:04

and I liked to help, but I genuinely

1:07

couldn't give them the answers that they wanted me

1:09

to say, you know, everything I said

1:11

was no or I

1:13

don't know. Because I didn't know.

1:16

It's very easy for people to say she shouldn't

1:18

know. And people have said that she shouldn't know

1:20

and she must've

1:21

known. But I didn't know.

1:23

And I felt like I was a suspect definitely.

1:27

Jill's only agreed to do this interview because

1:29

she thought she might be arrested. And

1:32

now she's having to bat away suspicion with

1:34

what little information she can offer, but

1:36

it's getting hard. They're asking

1:39

her about things she can't prove. Like

1:41

Dean's current state of mind and

1:43

if he's planning to plead

1:45

guilty. I'm

1:46

thinking to myself, why are you asking me what's gonna plead? You've

1:48

got enough evidence to charge him? The

1:51

cops tell Jill they want her to make

1:53

a formal witness statement to be

1:55

submitted as evidence in court

1:57

against Dean. And what happens

1:59

in the courtroom won't be a secret. The

2:02

story of Dean and Bob is already the talk

2:04

of the town, but Gilles managed to

2:06

stay out of the public fray. Revealing

2:08

that Dean was in Kahoot with a police sergeant

2:10

well. That would be the cherry on the

2:13

cake for the press. Surprise,

2:16

surprise, Peter knows what this would mean for

2:18

Jill and he's having none of it. Peter

2:21

was saying to

2:21

them, she's not making a Sargent. And for the moment,

2:23

unless

2:24

anything changes, We

2:26

will stick with that. When you make

2:28

a witness statement, you

2:30

are now in the judicial process. So

2:32

I'm thinking endgame. This

2:35

goes to court. Jill is a witness

2:38

in court. And whatever comes

2:40

out of their relationship and there could be

2:42

some Sargent in there with

2:44

press. So I'm thinking ahead

2:46

to I don't think this is a good

2:48

idea. They weren't too happy

2:50

about that. They took that as

2:52

not cooperating.

2:57

The interview ends just as it began.

3:00

With no one feeling satisfied. The

3:02

police give Jill her mobile phones back, and

3:04

Jill hopes it's the last time that she's on

3:06

this side of police interrogation. But

3:09

she's not out of the woods yet. The

3:12

detectives have been analyzing her

3:14

phone data and they call her up with

3:16

a new bombshell. They

3:18

tell Jill that Dean isn't just wanted for

3:20

that one Halloween bank robbery. He's

3:23

wanted for five. They've

3:27

been able to place him at the scene of the crime

3:29

of several high profile bank robberies

3:31

because he would regularly make a call before

3:33

or after to the same number. And

3:36

whose number was that? It

3:39

was chills.

3:42

Shit. Jesus Christ, this

3:44

just looks like I'm involved. Of course, it

3:46

does. But

3:48

whatever he was, he was on the end of a phone and

3:50

he sounded Amalie to me. Jill's

3:53

brain is frozen. Trying

3:55

to process what sounds like a solid case

3:57

to bang her

3:58

up. Anyone looking in a go, well, she's

4:00

got to be involved. He's ringing her

4:02

before or after these robberies, so I could see exactly

4:04

how it looked. So I was

4:06

trying to plead my innocence. The

4:09

cops aren't interested in Jules, please.

4:11

Instead, they seem to see them as an opportunity.

4:15

He said if he doesn't plead guilty

4:17

to these four, then

4:20

we will use phone records to say he's

4:22

been calling you. We will place

4:24

him by using your phone

4:25

records. So you tell Dean, we're gonna

4:27

keep digging. I'm

4:29

like, why you Sinfield me in this.

4:31

I don't wanna be put in the middle. Don't

4:34

drag me into it. I'm about to give this.

4:39

Do you puts down the phone, a single

4:42

question playing on repeat, a

4:45

question that only Dean can answer. Five

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something but the bad boys that

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makes you

6:08

Jill finds herself in a position not

6:10

unfamiliar to countless wives, girlfriends,

6:12

mothers, and sisters before her.

6:15

Being pressured to help the cops

6:17

nail a loved one. And when

6:19

Dean calls Jill the next day, he

6:21

can't get a word in edge ways. Jill's

6:24

got the bit between her teeth and there's no

6:26

time for his bloody Rao

6:27

Sargent. If you've done them, you plead guilty

6:30

to them because I am not going to court. But

6:32

Dean seems confused.

6:34

He's been caught for Yes.

6:36

But five, he was adamant to

6:38

me that he'd never done them. He hadn't been involved and

6:40

it was just pure coincidence. Dean

6:43

swears the cops to her.

6:45

This is orders deploy and she just

6:47

has to trust him. He was saying that

6:49

you got it wrong. Nothing to do with me. And

6:51

they're just trying fix me up. Dean

6:53

says the coppers are just getting lazy. They've

6:56

stopped one robbery, but wouldn't it be nice

6:58

and tidy if he could take the fall for

7:00

the other four too? Because

7:02

of the way I knew the police would

7:03

work, they'll try and clear up as many crimes as

7:05

they can on the system 4 the detection

7:07

rate.

7:08

So it wasn't uncommon to

7:11

see people who are in custody for an offense and get

7:13

them to admit to a shed

7:16

load of other offenses. Which when

7:18

you stop and think about it is a pretty bloody

7:20

awful state of

7:21

affairs. But Jill doesn't have

7:23

time to think about it because she's not

7:25

getting off this phone until she gets the answers

7:27

she wants from Dean. Dean

7:30

doubles down on explaining himself all

7:32

over again, how he'd got into

7:34

debt, how he needed the money so that he

7:36

could set up a new life with Jill. The

7:38

big move to Wales, the dream, the

7:40

family they'd been planning together. He

7:43

really had done it for now,

7:46

the dream was ruined by a terrible

7:48

terrible mistake. But just

7:51

one, not five.

7:53

And he said that that's why I needed the money to

7:55

be able to set up down with you. Dean's

7:59

tone, the sound of his voice, ease

8:02

his jail suspicions. She

8:04

knows this man. I'd

8:07

never seen a dangerous sight

8:09

to him.

8:10

So I just thought that was the police

8:12

exaggerating things just to make me

8:15

come out with what they thought I had. Jill's

8:18

also reassured by something else that the

8:20

cops let slip. Dean has no

8:22

previous convictions. In

8:24

fact, he'd never been in trouble with the

8:26

law. Jill's seen and booked

8:28

her fair share of criminals over the

8:30

years, and she's used to long Rao sheets.

8:33

Things different, It's not normal

8:35

behavior. Is it to go and do all those half robberies

8:37

and have no criminal record that is not normal

8:39

at all? I was like, well, see,

8:42

this is ridiculous. How does anyone

8:44

have no previous record and then go and get involved in all

8:46

these armed robberies? I know enough to know

8:48

that criminals normally start petty, crying,

8:50

younger, and then they move up and move up and move up their Sargent.

8:53

Not him. He's not bad person.

8:55

He's just got involved with the wrong Sortland

8:58

he's done this off the wall thing. And because

9:00

there was no criminal record, it was like, well, He's

9:02

not a criminal then was he? When

9:04

I was dating him, he wasn't a criminal.

9:14

Sixty miles away, the Ken detectives

9:17

pull up at the Marriott hotel in

9:19

the city of Swansea on the Welsh coast.

9:23

It's a bland Rao brick building that's major

9:25

selling point is that it's ineffective, predictable,

9:28

and positioned along the marina. The

9:30

cops are here to meet Andrew

9:32

Curran, Jill's brother, on

9:34

neutral ground. I

9:37

always felt that I grew up

9:39

in the shadow of my brother. He's

9:42

a big I am. He talks

9:44

a good job. I earn this much Wondery. I earn

9:46

that much and he comes Sortland my parents sit

9:49

there and lap it all

9:50

up. Now that Jill's in

9:52

the mess she's in, her relationship with her

9:54

family has been getting increasingly anxious.

9:57

They don't approve of Dean, or

9:59

her decision to stand by him. Andrews,

10:03

he used car and he's

10:05

of interest to the police because of the car that

10:07

he sold Dean, the blue Jaguar.

10:11

It was being driven by one of Dean's

10:13

lookouts the night he was arrested. But

10:16

when they get inside the hotel, the

10:18

detectives find that Jill's brother starts

10:20

spilling all sorts of tea. Like

10:25

the time Dean came on holiday, we're Jill and her

10:27

family with several thousand pounds stuffed in

10:29

envelopes. The pops quietly

10:31

note the date, just

10:34

days after one of the robberies they're

10:36

trying to pin on him. And

10:39

when it comes to the Rao, well,

10:42

Andrew confesses. Dean

10:44

was a little late with the payment. By

10:47

the Kymie coughed up, the money was deposited

10:49

into Andrew's accounts in cash. Two

10:52

days after another Rao story.

10:58

In the middle of making his statement, Andrew's

11:01

phone rings. It's

11:03

still. According

11:05

to the detectives, Andrew picks

11:08

up the phone and speaks to his sister. He

11:10

doesn't tell Jill who he's with.

11:13

The pair talk for a Sortland when Andrew

11:15

puts the phone down, he tells the cock that

11:17

Jill's been pressuring him not to cooperate

11:20

that she's angry with him for telling them about

11:22

Dean's cash. It's

11:25

a claim that the cops say Andrew made

11:27

several times to them and it takes them

11:29

by surprise. Why

11:31

would you allegedly do something like Jill

11:35

doesn't know it yet, but her brother

11:38

seems to be landing her in all sorts

11:40

of hot water. Jill's

11:43

brother declined to take part in this podcast.

11:45

And when asked, he said he had no memory of

11:47

this moment. What

11:50

certain is at the time, the detectives

11:52

from Ken make a note of the phone call

11:54

and Jill's brother's claims, and they're

11:56

becoming increasingly concerned

11:58

that Jill is trying to obstruct their

12:00

investigation. It's

12:03

not a good look. It's a police

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12:08

now allegedly intimidating them.

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While the cops might be starting to question Jill's

13:49

motives, she's not pausing for one

13:51

second. Instead, she's pressing on

13:53

with Dean, full speed ahead. They've

13:56

been together for a year now and what

13:58

a year it's been? Half of it

14:01

spent jet setting going on expensive dates

14:03

and the other half with Jill visiting

14:05

Dean in prison. It

14:07

wasn't a normal relationship by any stretch of

14:09

imagination. So it was about making it as

14:11

good as we could until the time

14:14

came that he was released

14:16

It was constant letters, phone

14:18

calls, he would call me. She doesn't

14:21

ask him about the robberies or even

14:23

how long he thinks he might be in prison. Dean

14:25

doesn't bring it up either. Instead,

14:28

they focus on their plans together as a

14:30

family. In the perfect little house,

14:33

in the dream life that Dean has promised her.

14:35

A bit of magical thinking on both sides, but

14:37

it gets them through the days. And

14:40

when they find out they're having a boy,

14:42

Dean's thrilled. They decide

14:44

to call him frankly a good London name,

14:47

and Dean's streaming of what the future

14:49

might hold for the three of them.

14:51

This is amazing. I could be free

14:53

of all this shit done involved

14:55

in and have an amazing life somewhere

14:57

else where I can just go on

14:59

and be no be the old thing,

15:03

not the lie,

15:05

the cheat, the you know, this is an

15:07

open fresh start where wouldn't have to lie and just

15:09

be me.

15:11

Any outsider listening into their calls

15:13

would assume they were simply in a long distance

15:15

relationship. But every so often,

15:18

reality would sink in. Every

15:20

time, Jill makes the long journey to prison

15:22

and finds herself staring at the barbed wiring

15:25

concrete walls all over again. Once

15:28

a month only is torture.

15:31

They have to settle for old fashioned love

15:33

letters

15:34

Some might even call it romantic. Just

15:37

got off the phone with you. I love the

15:39

sound of your voice. It makes me so happy

15:42

to hear you. My wish, you,

15:44

me, Frankie, and girls walking

15:46

on Sandy Beach.

15:48

And Till's reply When

15:50

you love someone, you're sacrifice. You'll

15:53

give it all you've you won't sing

15:55

twice. By the way, This is a

15:57

direct quote from a Valentine's Rao sent

16:00

Dean in two thousand and seven. It's

16:02

also a direct copy from the classic

16:05

love song when you love someone

16:07

by Brian Adams. You

16:09

risk it all. No matter

16:11

what may comes. When

16:13

you love someone, you'll shoot for the

16:15

moon. Put out

16:17

the sun when you love someone.

16:20

When you love A

16:26

few months later, on the twenty third

16:28

of April, Jill is on the phone to Dean

16:30

when she starts to sound a little different.

16:33

She said to me, I'm gonna go to the hospital. I think

16:35

I'm in label medical tractions. All

16:38

Dean can do is listen, as jill Wondery

16:41

with the pain of a contraction. He

16:43

fires concerned questions at her.

16:45

Are you okay? Is there anyone there

16:47

with you? How will you get to the hospital?

16:50

Good question.

16:51

But she was like, I'm driving myself. I'm gonna

16:53

go. Dean's left

16:56

to pay laces herself.

16:58

Jill knows she has to do this without him.

17:00

I drove myself to the hospital in labor,

17:03

in the

17:04

Rao. It's Chrysler with everyone

17:06

with us. The car is packed. Jill,

17:09

her Sargent, and her two daughters. Hospital

17:13

bag in hand, Jill strides with

17:15

fierce confidence into the maternity ward.

17:23

I felt strong and determined that Frankie

17:25

was gonna be fine. He was gonna be born, finally be

17:27

no issues, and that I could deal with

17:29

it. At one thirty

17:31

AM on the twenty fourth of April.

17:33

After half an hour of pushing, Frankie

17:36

is born. In

17:44

prison, in Kent, Dean is locked away

17:47

for the night. Lying in the darkness,

17:49

he's woken by the sound of someone whispering

17:51

his name. Dame. Dame.

17:55

He jumps up and looks around, but

17:57

there's nobody there. Straining

18:00

to listen, he senses that the voice

18:02

belongs to his grandad who passed

18:04

away a year

18:05

earlier. The pater familiar

18:07

of the family and the man being called

18:10

the governor. It's vivid.

18:13

I knew that he was Sortland

18:16

then literally

18:17

fifteen seconds and then flap

18:20

opened on the door.

18:22

Dean looks up at the guard at his cell

18:24

door.

18:24

He said, you have a baby boy.

18:27

You have a pretty healthy. In

18:31

a side ward of the hospital, chill

18:33

is falling in love all over again,

18:36

gazing down at little Frankie's crumpled

18:38

up newborn face, And even

18:41

though Dean isn't there, Frankie has

18:43

his likeness.

18:44

For Jill, it's more than enough.

18:47

I

18:47

remember

18:48

looking at him and going, oh, do you know what?

18:50

This is all with it.

18:52

You've now had the girls. There was a

18:54

part of Dean there that was mine.

18:57

When Dane calls, he's desperate

18:59

for news.

19:01

Tell me everything. I need to know everything, so

19:03

my mind can paint his own picture

19:05

of what actually

19:06

happened. I didn't know what he looked

19:08

like. You know, it's madness. Matt and

19:10

his girlfriend had come out and he looks he's actually

19:12

like me.

19:15

That night, Dean writes Jill a letter.

19:17

It's full of pride and

19:19

joy and plans for the

19:20

future. He tells her.

19:23

I love you more than I could ever say.

19:25

I am today and forever the proudest

19:27

man there is. I worship the ground

19:29

you walk on Sargent. Frankie

19:31

is the luckiest boy too. A

19:33

perfect family wrapped around

19:35

him, keeping him safe until daddy is

19:37

home. Despite everything

19:40

that's happened and the fact that you're in prison and

19:42

all of this stuff, you've

19:44

sent me that letter and we have a son.

19:47

It just said everything to me and that's what I needed.

19:49

I wanted to assure her that everything

19:52

was gonna be okay and assure her

19:54

that this is good this is a good

19:55

thing. And you know what? I'm

19:57

gonna come to Wales. I will be there. I'm gonna

19:59

do that just to support what she'd been through to make

20:01

it right.

20:02

That was Dean. That is not

20:04

Dean with a shotgun against someone's head

20:07

telling them to open the

20:08

till. That is the Dean. And the only

20:10

Dean I knew Dean

20:13

makes

20:13

Jill a commitment. He's going

20:15

to make things right. I'm

20:17

gonna make it easier for you, don't

20:19

need to get you dragged into this, so I'm just gonna plead

20:21

guilty because I don't want you to be put through anymore

20:23

shit, so I haven't done them. But

20:25

just to make life simple, and now

20:28

all that bother should move

20:30

away from you.

20:31

Without fuss, Dean plead

20:33

guilty to all five robberies. And

20:36

to Jill, this apparent act of

20:38

selflessness seems strange.

20:41

She's not used to people standing up for her.

20:44

Where I got to stand by him and do the right thing because

20:46

I can't just abandon him now. When

20:52

the day of the sentencing arrives, all

20:55

Jill can do is wait at home anxiously

20:57

with little frankie. With so much

20:59

media at the trial and as a serving

21:01

officer, she can't be seen to be

21:03

publicly supporting Dean no

21:05

matter how much it hurts. Instead,

21:08

that responsibility falls on the shoulders

21:10

of his mom, Joyce, and sister Debbie.

21:13

They arrive early at May and Rao court

21:15

and part themselves up in the lobby. They're

21:18

dressed up smart. To the

21:20

halls of spectators passing by,

21:22

the Jenkins women might come across a

21:24

little, steely. But

21:26

underneath, their nerves are shot.

21:29

Out of the corner of her

21:30

eye, Debbie spots detectives Andy

21:32

and Lynn.

21:34

The thing about and Lynn, you

21:37

know, they're coming here, hello, Debbie. You'd make

21:39

them tea, coffee, whatever, and chat.

21:41

And they were so nice. As

21:44

the opposing teams lock eyes, Debbie

21:46

recognizes an opportunity and she gives them

21:48

a smile and a big wave. Hi.

21:52

and Len walked past without even a flicker

21:55

of

21:55

acknowledgement, blank. Foot

21:58

Locker writes whole bloody idiot, were

22:01

you coming in drunk here in my house with

22:03

your arsenal tie? They

22:08

all file into the courtroom, a

22:10

wood panel space with the crown insignia

22:12

of the line and the unicorn sitting above

22:14

the judge's large Rao leather

22:16

chair. It's

22:19

standing room only as the public

22:21

gallery is packed with burley

22:24

firearms officers. This

22:26

is an important case for the force.

22:29

It's not very often that the police shoot someone

22:31

dead. So when it happens, it's

22:33

important that justice is seen to be done.

22:36

Bob might be dead, but Dean

22:38

still needs to be buried. The

22:41

police with the guns and Sortland they were

22:43

all big feathers with their Sortland

22:45

they pushed in. Dean's family

22:47

are in a shot of the cops. Debbie's

22:50

ears burn when she hears someone whispering.

22:53

Who were they? And one of them said,

22:55

might be another one of his birds. And

22:57

I remember turning around men and saying,

23:00

I was fucking sister.

23:03

In the Jenkins family, there are no

23:05

such thing as birds. Only

23:07

women you do not want to cross.

23:12

Firmly scouring at the rude men

23:14

in big coats, Debbie Watches as her brother

23:16

is led into the courtroom. Ever

23:19

the rebel, Dean's refused to wear a suit.

23:22

He's in a white t shirt, jeans, and

23:24

white trainers. Having

23:28

already plead guilty to all five charges

23:31

against him, all that's left is the

23:33

sentencing.

23:34

Dean's final Sargent, The

23:36

words are read by an actor. Sometimes,

23:40

robberies are viewed in terms of

23:42

the division into which they fall. In

23:45

my judgment, each of these armed

23:47

robberies falls at the top of

23:49

the Premier division. They

23:51

were planned with military precision.threats

23:55

of violence were not just uttered, but they

23:57

were carried out. On each of

23:59

these robberies, sworn of shutdowns

24:01

were

24:01

taken, the most frightening weapons

24:04

of offense. A

24:06

lot of people listening will say, you're

24:08

sick, you're horrible, you're

24:10

nasty. And then

24:12

what?

24:13

It has been prayed on behalf of you

24:16

deemed Jenkins that you had

24:18

financial problems with your business and

24:20

that you had gotten to substantial debt

24:23

that is the background to the commission of

24:25

these

24:25

offenses. It is unusual

24:28

for a man turning 4 to

24:30

suddenly go on a free of grave

24:33

crime. How many years

24:35

is Dean gonna get? Debbie

24:37

can't work it

24:38

out. Dean's face was so a depend.

24:41

I was looking at him and trying to do the

24:42

math. I knew he was doing the same. I

24:45

knew he was doing the math as well.

24:48

But Dean gives nothing away. He

24:50

leaves everyone in the courtroom to make up their

24:52

own minds. Please now

24:54

stand. Dean

24:57

Jenkins, The sentence is

24:59

one of seventeen years in

25:01

prison building.

25:06

How long? How long?

25:09

Seventeen years.

25:11

That's a hard one to swallow. As

25:14

hard pull 4 anybody swallow. The

25:16

judge asks Dean if he's got anything

25:18

to say, but in true Dean form, he

25:20

simply clears his throat and stands

25:22

with his back straight. And

25:24

I said, thank you very much, Anna.

25:27

I appreciate your time. Back

25:33

in

25:33

Wales, Jill hears the news from

25:35

Debbie and Joyce.

25:36

Believe me. That's a massive

25:39

sentence. That's actually more than a murderer would

25:41

get. Even with time served

25:43

and time off for good behavior, frankly,

25:45

will be at least eight years old before Dean's

25:48

released. But Jill doesn't

25:50

seem overly shocked. She

25:52

always knew Dean was likely to get a hefty

25:54

sentence, even with his guilty

25:56

plea. Instead, she

25:58

fixates on a seemingly insignificant

26:00

detail. The news that the cops

26:03

thought that Debbie was one of Dean's birds,

26:05

not a bird, not an old bird, or

26:07

a new one, one of, suggesting

26:10

many. This is the second

26:12

time the cops have suggested that Dean had

26:14

multiple women on the go, and it's

26:17

narrowing away at Jill. She can't

26:19

let it go. And Sogel

26:21

makes yet another questionable

26:23

decision. She decides to call

26:25

up Lynn Johnston. One of the detectives

26:28

from Kent, and there was

26:29

only one question I wanted to accept.

26:31

It's not about the jail time or the bank

26:33

robberies or the shooting. I

26:35

just need to know were there any other women? And

26:38

he said, I can't answer you

26:40

that question. I said, I need to answer. I just

26:42

need to know were there any other

26:44

women? Lewy jill down

26:46

hard. Jill's a serving

26:48

police officer. The father of her

26:50

child has just been sentenced to seventeen

26:53

years in prison after pleading guilty

26:55

to five armed

26:56

robberies. And all she's worried about

26:58

is whether or not had a bit on the side.

27:00

I was solely interested

27:02

in did he love me?

27:05

Had he had a different life,

27:07

a separate life up in Kent

27:10

with his wife? Was it all

27:12

a big joke to him that I was a sergeant

27:14

and he'd gone out of his way

27:15

deliberately? That's why he kept the relationship

27:18

going. I wanted to hear it for myself.

27:20

Lewy gives Jill nothing,

27:22

but when he puts the phone down, he decides

27:24

to inform the professional standards department

27:27

at Jill's 4. To let them know

27:29

that Sargent Evans has been trying to use her

27:31

position to get intel on her bank

27:33

robbing boyfriend. And

27:36

that's just the most recent of Jill's indiscretion.

27:39

Disobeying their orders not to see Dean,

27:41

allegedly attempting to silence her

27:43

brother and refusing to make

27:45

a witness statement herself. Kempson

27:48

have been weighing up whether or not to arrest

27:51

Jill for obstructing their investigation,

27:53

and they've been feeding all this back to

27:55

Jill's force.

27:58

Suspicion grows like mold and

28:00

yields office.

28:01

What do you know? What do

28:03

you know then? A view

28:06

starts to form that she might be vulnerable

28:08

to corruption, a potential bank

28:10

cop. And with the news

28:12

of Dean's guilt spreading, hushed

28:14

words start to be muttered around the station.

28:17

What was she involved in something like that for?

28:20

This is not good, is it? Fingers

28:22

begin to point at Jill. A

28:26

mounting case of professional misconduct

28:29

is stacking up against her. She's

28:31

not fit to be at least Officer. Preoccupied

28:35

by rumors of Dean's alleged infidelity,

28:38

Jill has failed to notice that her

28:40

job is hanging by a thread,

28:42

and she's not the only one in trouble,

28:44

because another storm is brewing at David

28:46

Powers Amalie. A sex

28:48

scandal to rival the tale

28:51

of the officer and the bank robber.

29:12

When she gets back to her desk inside

29:14

the Haverford West Police iliation. Jill

29:16

keeps her head down and gets on with her

29:18

tasks. She's been shoved onto an

29:20

administrative desk job in the back office, and

29:22

she's sorting rotors for the week ahead. Still,

29:25

Jill feels relatively securing her job,

29:28

and that's because despite everything, she

29:30

still has the support of her boss, the

29:33

top dog in the 4. Achieve constable,

29:36

Terry Grange. With

29:40

icy blue eyes and pointy elephant

29:42

ears, Harry has the look of someone

29:44

who never has to explain his authority.

29:47

There was a bit of a dictator Amalie is

29:49

a bit harsh, but he's very strict.

29:51

X military,

29:53

he does the right thing but not always

29:55

in the right way.

29:56

Fortunately for Jill, Peter has

29:58

Terry's Rao.

30:00

I could go into his office unannounced. Right?

30:03

The two men have the kind of understanding that

30:05

only two Maverick cops could share.

30:07

When I first met him, went up

30:09

to his office and he asked me, don't your homework

30:11

on me? I said, yeah. That's fine.

30:14

He said, so let me tell you. Don't

30:17

ever embarrass me

30:19

in public. Say whatever you want

30:21

in this room behind closed doors. If

30:24

we're out in public, and

30:26

you stab me in the back.

30:29

You will see me taking the knife out

30:31

of my back and he put

30:33

his arm behind his back took the knife then

30:36

he rubbed it across his throat and he said,

30:38

and I will cut your

30:41

throat with it. That's

30:43

what he said.

30:44

Right? Now, I quite respected

30:46

Sortland so

30:49

bloomed a very special relationship.

30:52

A perfect fusion of professional understanding

30:55

and occasional death threats. And

30:58

with Peter's help, Terry's made

31:00

it clear that Jill has his support.

31:03

He

31:03

made it quite clear to me. He

31:06

was very very supportive.

31:08

As long as Terry has her back,

31:10

let the others gossip all they like.

31:12

Sargent Jil Evans is gonna keep on

31:14

working, keeping the peace during working

31:17

hours, calling her bank robber boyfriend

31:19

in the evening, everything is

31:21

perfectly ordered. Until

31:28

There's a great list of knocking tonight, that Terry

31:30

Grange was well known in police and political

31:32

circles. He was an outspoken character.

31:34

But in his own words, tonight, he has wrongly allowed

31:36

his personal life to interfere with his

31:38

professional duties.

31:40

Oh, shit. He's under investigation for

31:43

alleged financial irregularities. Independent

31:46

police complaints commission is also investigating mister

31:48

Range for the misuse of the police national

31:50

computer.

31:52

On the nineteenth of November, just seventeen

31:55

days after Dean was sentenced, Jill's

31:57

boss and guardian angel, Terry

31:59

Granger, is gone. It

32:01

turns out, Terry's been using

32:03

police credit cards to fund an illicit

32:05

affair, paying for meals hotel

32:08

rooms. Terry's also been using

32:10

his police computer email address

32:12

to send Rao emails containing,

32:15

quote, inappropriate comments and

32:17

sexual innuendo. Including one

32:19

intriguingly entitled Irish

32:21

Sausages. Terry's

32:23

affair came to light after things went

32:25

sour with his secret lover. She

32:28

reported him to the authorities, and

32:30

before you could cook an Irish sausage,

32:32

he was out 4 into a

32:34

sudden and premature pure

32:36

retirement. It

32:38

was a huge story, huge, huge story.

32:40

Terry Graves Lewy. And then all of

32:42

a sudden, the press were down fishing for

32:44

things about Terry Grange, trying to drum

32:46

up a

32:47

story, and that's when

32:49

the wheels come off really. Suddenly,

32:53

little old dented powers police force is

32:55

in the glare of a massive media

32:57

spotlight. And the cop

32:59

with the bank robber boyfriend carrying on as

33:01

if nothing has happened is smack

33:04

bang in the middle of that spotlight.

33:10

A few days

33:11

later, Jill sitting in her office and

33:13

the phone rings.

33:14

And I went, eleven.

33:16

And voice said

33:17

Just the I want to speak to you.

33:19

I'm from the same newspaper.

33:21

And, of course, my immediate reaction was

33:24

Or how did you get my number or

33:26

my name? What happened? How did you get through to

33:28

me? We've been directed through to you

33:31

to talk about what happened to you.

33:33

Sorry. How did you get my number? How did you come through

33:36

to me? Well, we ran headquarters and

33:38

we got through to the police authority

33:41

by mister Granger. And his demise.

33:45

Right. Well, I don't know anything about that. Well,

33:47

no. They didn't wanna talk, but they sort of

33:49

direct us to you. They said

33:51

there must be a good story down in Pembrochure

33:54

with the sergeant and the backrobert.

33:58

God. Paranoid

34:02

questions fire from all directions.

34:05

Who leads her story to the press

34:07

and why?

34:08

The more she thinks about at it. The timing

34:10

seems like more than a coincidence. So

34:13

what have you got? You got a chief constable who's

34:15

allegedly taken funds

34:18

to date his woman on the side.

34:21

And then you've got a police date in

34:23

an armed robber. It's two massive

34:25

stories, isn't it? But as I'm a junior

34:28

In my view, they would push the attention

34:31

towards me to deflect off the

34:33

higher

34:33

ranks. Still. Jill

34:35

knows she shouldn't talk No

34:37

comment. Limun. It's amazing

34:39

story. It's amazing. It's

34:42

happened to me. This is my life.

34:44

Oh, we granted you corporate it. Because

34:46

we're gonna print it anyway. So

34:50

what should Jill do? I mean,

34:52

it couldn't hurt to get her side across?

34:55

Could it? The

35:00

next day, a Frosty autumn afternoon,

35:02

Jill finds herself Rao behind

35:04

a hedge in a supermarket car

35:06

park, waiting to have a clandestine

35:09

meet up with a journalist from the sun,

35:11

Britain's biggest selling tabloid

35:12

newspaper. A wither, of

35:14

course, is her best friend, Jenny.

35:17

We went to come out and to meet him in

35:19

Morrison's car park. I remember

35:21

sneaking behind the hedge.

35:25

It's all very cloak and dagger. The

35:28

two women's scanned the horizon of the supermarket

35:30

car

35:31

park, waiting for their man to arrive.

35:33

We were, like, waiting to see this journalist

35:35

as if we were on some sort of stakeout. Oh,

35:37

you're good. We received his over

35:39

there. Peering

35:42

through the foliage, Jill spies

35:44

a man who could be a journalist Presumably

35:47

he's wearing a trench coat and a large pork pie hat.

35:50

Clamping out of the hedge, Jill walks

35:53

steadily across the car park. The

35:55

journalist greets her with kind eyes

35:57

and a warm smile. You just quite

35:59

sympathetic to me. So this is just awful for you.

36:01

I said, I don't know. Any nerve she

36:03

might feel are put at ease by the journalist friendly

36:06

demeanor. And suddenly

36:08

her story comes pouring out of

36:10

her. The whirlwind

36:12

romance, the horrible discovery, the

36:14

fact that nobody will believe her.

36:16

In a way, it's bit of a relief to actually

36:18

speak to him on somebody from the outside just

36:20

saying, God,

36:21

we feel so sorry for you. And I'm

36:22

like, I

36:24

just didn't know. I just didn't know. This

36:26

is a good thing. Jill can feel it.

36:29

If people could just hear her side of

36:31

the story, it will be obvious that

36:33

she was never involved in the robberies. After

36:36

hiding away for so long, it feels

36:38

like a relief to finally be telling her

36:40

truth. And

36:43

the journalist. What's he thinking

36:46

as Jill spills the beans? He

36:48

must realize he's got a scoop on

36:50

his hands. I mean, You couldn't

36:52

make it up right. And

36:55

he must feel excited when Jill tells

36:57

him the juiciest detail of all.

36:59

The cherry on the cake in this madcap

37:01

story. But after everything

37:04

that's happened, she's still in love

37:06

with Dean. The cop,

37:08

is still in love with the robber. The

37:11

headline almost writes itself,

37:14

and it's a real marmalade dropper.

37:18

Small town gossip is about

37:20

to become national And

37:24

soon, the whole country will

37:26

be playing the role of judge and

37:28

jury. That's

37:30

coming up on stolen hearts.

37:38

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From Wondery and Novel, this

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is episode four of six of

38:18

hearts. Stolen

38:22

hearts is hosted by me, Carrie Godliman,

38:25

and written by Kim MacAskill, Tom

38:27

Wright, and Sinfield. Our

38:29

producer is Tom Wright, associate

38:32

producer, Anna Sinfold, Assistant

38:34

producer, Amalia Sortland, additional

38:36

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38:39

checking by Andrew Schwartz and Wondery

38:41

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38:43

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38:48

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38:50

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38:55

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38:58

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