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This is the Steelers standard on
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Steelers Nation Radio and podcast
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on Steelers dot com.
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Pittsburgh Steelers have probably the
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richest history of draft picks
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in NFL history,
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and that isn't exclusive
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to one round. We've done this project
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for the weeks leading up to the draft
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now, where we've been looking at rounds one, two, three, four,
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five and determining the
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all time great players from each round
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in Pittsburgh Steelers history. And we've got
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like seven Hall of famers already. You
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know, they have picked a Hall of Famer in every
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round one through five in
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their history of the NFL and wild just
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a spoiler alert, there would be
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a number six round pick that well
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would make the Hall of Fame if he wasn't
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say.
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He's not even l yet.
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No, he's not. Numbers
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wise, performance on the field wise, he absolutely
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is a first ballot Hall of Famer,
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honestly, but he's also a first
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ballot psychopath of a person.
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Yeah, so probably not gonna get in.
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We'll get to him in.
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A second, but before we highlight
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the Steelers' sixth round picks, we'll do sixth round
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first, then we'll get the seventh round. Here are
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some popular sixth round picks in
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NFL history for you. Recently
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retired center of the Philadelphia Eagles, Jason
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Kelsey was picked in the sixth round. I
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want to talk about a goat getting drafted.
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There's that Steeler. We'll talk about him later. Antoine
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bethea defensive back from the Indianapolis
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Colts. This
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is weird that this guy would be on this list. I don't
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remember him playing for the Patriots. I remember his time
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in Tampa Bay. Tom
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Brady, Yeah, I guess that's
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pretty decent.
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In fact, do you remember who the number one overall pick
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was for that year? Quarterback?
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I don't tell me the fun fact Chad Pennington
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okay career, but not Tom
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Brady.
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He was an okay and Adam Marshall was
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okay with Do.
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You remember who his wide receiver was in Marshall? Randy
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Mouse, Mark.
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Bolger quarterback, West
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Virginia local guy M. H. Pitt
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never recruited him, went to West Virginia. Shove
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it up Pitt's butt in the background. I think he threw for like
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seven touchdown passes in that game. He
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was the guy who came in after Kurt Warner in
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Saint Louis and was pretty good for a couple
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of years. Mark Boulger, but a seventh round pick there.
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Matt Hasselback, quarterback for the Green Bay
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Pack drafted. We
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were familiar with him in this time with the Seattle
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Seas Old Super Bowl. Fell seventh
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round pick.
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Castleback.
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Really good career considering he was a seventh round
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pick. I mean, became the guy for Seattle. Do
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you remember the amazing h Coin
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toss though in overtime when he was playing the Packers when.
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He says we're going to get the ball and we're going to score.
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And pick six like first play.
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Let's see here a couple linemen,
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Oh, Terrell Davis Mney
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back for the Denver Broncos. Hall of famer, Yeah,
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hall of famer, MVP, just
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a totally great player.
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For Denver.
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Here's another one of those Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll get
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to him in a second. Mark Rippion, quarterback
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of the Washington Well, they used to be
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called something else, the Washington football team now.
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Jovachek tight end for the Saint Louis
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Cardinals. Let's see
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here, any other name of
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note in the seventh round. Make
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sure that the old heads don't get mad at me. Here.
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That's pretty much it.
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I mean, you got a bunch of black and white pictures that I'm looking
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at, so forget that, all right. The
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Steelers in the sixth round, it
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gets a little bit thin when you get to the sixth
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and the seven.
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Seventh round especially was real.
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Sixth round, sixth round was surprisingly
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things fell into place for me.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Seventh round just you know, just pretty
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tough. I'll say this.
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One guy in the sixth round that didn't make my list, Dwayne
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Woodriff the Judge, played
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a long time with the Pittsburgh Steelers, never made
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a problem, never made an All Pro, but people.
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Remember doing wood drift and they know who he
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is.
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I got to sit down with him for one of those Steelers
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alumni nights. Awesome guy the Judge.
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Yeah, don't break any crimes around
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him.
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Christumtu Mafala didn't
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make my list, but a here time name
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and here at Pittsburgh Steelers ever like
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the best name in the history of Chris.
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Come on, you know how to say it, It rolls off your time.
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But to read it
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is even hard.
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Yeah, you can't read it. You gotta just know it right.
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What a bst that guy was. Chris Katu
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guard drafted in two thousand and five by the Steelers
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in the seventh round. Not a bad pick. A
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lot three years they played, it played a decent
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amount name that you'll remember. Jonathan
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Dwyer in twenty ten. Love Jonathan
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Dwyer, beefy, beefy guy him
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and like that that due of him and Isaac
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Redmond. We're just tough running
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back.
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It's just funny, man. Like some of these names you remember,
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and some of them you have.
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No they sound like Dwyer play
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no, no, no, I know Dwyer's like, but some of these names
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sound like they were created on Madden, like a like a
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random name generator.
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Like Dwyre, I believe.
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Twenty fourteen, I know Dan mccallers.
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I can't forget Dan McCullers. But
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then also in twenty fourteen, Jordan's and Walt
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I have no idea that that idea is.
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But mccallors you remember because
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he was that guy that somehow just stuck around.
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There forever twenty fourteen to twenty twenty.
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He was there for six years. Anthony
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Chickelow in twenty fifteen, we remember him, but
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also in twenty fifteen, Notarious Walton,
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No I had no idea who the hell that guy is.
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I'm sure like Dale Lawley and Boba Everett.
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Oh, I remember twenty sixteenth pick in the sixth
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round, Travis Feeney. And then, of course we
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could forget twenty seventeenth six round pick Colin
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Holba uh
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Ulyssias Gilbert in twenty nineteen and Isaiah Bugs
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in twenty nineteen. We I do remember those guys.
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No sixth round pick last year for the Steelers. The most
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recent sixth round pick on the team's roster Connor
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Hayward. Okay, sixth round pick
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in twenty twenty two, all right, brother,
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So for number five on my list, Yeah,
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I went into the wordback
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machine. Okay, I'm talking
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nineteen fifty one NFL
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draft, the Steelers picked a guy by the name of
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Dale Doddrel. His position
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is listed as MG whatever that
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means, and linebacker. Dale
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Doddrel made a first team All Pro for the Steelers
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in nineteen fifty four. He was two second
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team All Pro nods in nineteen fifty two
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in nineteen fifty five as well, made
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four Pro Bowlers, and he was a Steeler
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from nineteen fifty one to nineteen fifty nine.
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I have no idea about Dale Doldrel, but that
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seems to me like a pretty damn good six
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round pick to have that kind of a resume,
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and he was a career steeler, So if that's what gave
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me the nod, even though I have no idea who he is. You
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want me to put a Kimoyatu a Fumatuma follow
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on there, Sure, I'd love to, But
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you can't tell me that Doddrel, even if he was playing in the
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fifties, wasn't a better player than those two guys were,
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right, all right?
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Now that we got that guy out of the way, Okay, let's get
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her names that everybody knows.
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I got twenty thirteen.
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MG, I still came.
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Looked that up.
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Twenty thirteen six
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round pick.
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Vince Williams.
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Love it?
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What did he want to? Vince Williams
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Actually, as he would like to be.
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Remembered, still kind of wish that he
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was playing. Maybe not now,
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Yeah, he was thirty six now, but
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in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two kind
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of needed Vince Williams. But
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good for him for being able to walk away from the
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game when he
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was ready for it and before he
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caused a lot of damage, I'm sure to his body.
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The thing that Vince Williams really excelled
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at started around twenty seventeen.
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Eight sacks on the season from the inside
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spot, then four and a half the next year. He was
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a bullet.
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He also was doing very well tackles
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for losses.
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You know there was a time in like twenty nineteen
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he was at one point well
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on into the season, leading the league and taggles for
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loss.
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Vince Williams was never a great linebacker.
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I'm not trying to make him out to be one, but
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he was a solid starter and
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for a six round pick, that's all you can ask for. And
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I think what's so impressive He started
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eleven games in twenty thirteen as a rookie.
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A rookie, sixth round pick started
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eleven games for the Pittsburgh
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Steelers at the inside linebacker position.
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So you want to talk about getting a lot of
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value for a player, Oh yeah, Vince Williams
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for sure.
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And just a fan favor too. Don't
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know anyone in Pittsburgh that disliked Vince
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Williams. Still a great Twitter follow as well.
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Definitely ultimate fan favorite.
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Checking in at number three here for me nineteen
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eighty six round pick mister
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Oakin punch Elkin, Yeah,
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it has to be. Two time Pro bowler for
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the Steelers, spent
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majority of his career in Pittsburgh.
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That one game he played for
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the.
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Green Bay Packers, just one game he
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played in nineteen ninety three.
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We forget about that, though. We neuralized
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that from our memory.
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He was a Steeler from nineteen eighty all the way up until
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nineteen eighty two, a
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starter for the team since nineteen eighty three
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up until the end at nineteen ninety two, Two
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time Pro Bowl or eighty eight and eighty nine.
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His on the field performance absolutely
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merits him being a part of the top five six
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round picks of all time.
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But then on top of him being.
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Exploding into even more of a.
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Steelers icon post career just
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solidifies it.
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I mean, he was also a two time Pro Bowl, That's what
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I mean.
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Like, even if he didn't broadcast and we were just
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doing this research, we'd have been like, yeah, Ton Jokum was probably
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a top five pick in the sixth round, but just
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he became even larger than just his on field
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persona because his off the field persona was so great
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and definitely, And you've all heard this
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before, and when he passed
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away, unfortunately, everybody had nice
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things to say about him, because no one has a bad thing
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to say about the guy. It
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was all true too. I mean, like the coolest
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guy to work with, the nicest guy. Funny,
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yeah, fun really funny.
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I was like, my, I think and you would
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agree with this.
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We all we always say, like, the first experience
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you get working here was with touch and Wolf
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was tounch of wolf in sand and working
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with Touch of Wolf. It was just funny
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to hear those guys go back and forth and to
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hear them rip each other. It wasn't
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just like one was giving in one was take they
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were both. It was just like it was
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legitimately like being in a locker room. As
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as corny as that is to say, that's
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what it felt like, all right.
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Now, Number two and number one are legit
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stud players, Okay, I mean I'm talking
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top line. These guys should have been picked, not
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first round, top ten players.
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Greg Lloyd nineteen eighty seven, Yeah, number sixth
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round pick, number two. I
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mean he was a runner up for the Defensive
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Player of the Year in nineteen ninety five. He was third place
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in nineteen ninety four. Both of those seasons
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he was a first team All Pro, and in nineteen
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ninety three he was the first team All Pro. So three years
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straight as the first team All Pro, and from
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nineteen ninety one all the way up to nineteen ninety five he
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was a Pro Bowler in each season. Greg
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Lloyd had a peak for real ninety one to ninety
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five, and then he kind of got hurt in the ninety
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six season, only played one game, came
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back, wasn't the same, spent
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that one year in Carolina to end his career in nineteen
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ninety eight. But my god,
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what an absolute steal
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of a sixth round pick, and in
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most teams history this
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caliber player would by
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far be their best sixth round pick ever.
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I mean, yeah, if there wasn't a guy
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who league wide might
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be considered borderline Hall of Famer just because
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of you know what he's
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on off the field. But Greg
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Lloyd is just an awesome guy. Two things
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I'll always remember, because I wasn't around to really
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watch him, was a sideline
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interaction between him and coach Kward just getting
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fired up. And then when
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they won the AC Championship
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game against the colts him in the locker
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room saying, this is what we came for. I
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mean we were here a year ago, we're back.
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We did it. And then you can hear everyone
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in that Apua room cheering him on.
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Greg Lloyd and Kevin Green. Yeah,
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what a tandem that was.
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I mean, that's just that as that is
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just one of many chapters
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in the long lineage of Steelers
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linebackers.
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Yeah, and those two are really unique because they didn't
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win, Like, those two are really.
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And they're just they are
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that just because they didn't win doesn't mean they're less
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talented. They are as good
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as linebackers get in the NFL.
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They are both Hall of famers. I
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mean, how rare is it to say that at
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any point in your franchise?
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Is history not?
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But Green is
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wit?
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Is it?
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No?
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I mean he didn't have that long of a career. Yeah, not
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hurt Green, Yes, but it's
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okay, I'm a little upset he
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could be a Hall of Fame.
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Let's say that he should be.
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Okay, your Hall of Fame caliber,
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We'll say, how.
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Let's make it more accurate. Two first team All
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pros in a in a three years.
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How often is it that you see
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if franchise get one
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of those players, let alone two at the same
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position playing at the exact same
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time. And that's what the Steelers have done
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their entire history for the last
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fifty plus years.
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You can only feel two starting outside linebackers
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in your all time team. That means guys
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like Lloyd Green the left
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off the list. I mean, I
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know who's starting, TJ and James?
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Yeah yeah, Oh no,
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TJ and Hammer oh Man. See
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like I had it in the vein of pass rusher. I
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wasn't even thinking about Hammer because of his unique.
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So what would you So you would put
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TJ and James like up front and then lead
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Hammer Lambert kind
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of.
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Second, I'm moving Ham to the inside.
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That's what I'm doing on my all time.
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No, you can't. I did it? You
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got no.
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I like though, it's
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unbelievable the caliber players you're leaving
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off of an all time out.
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Well, Like, here's what like, here's the like, here's
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the issue is that, Okay, do
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you only put two members of your defensive
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lineup front? If you're gonna put
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two edge rushers, two defensive linemen, three linebackers
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force for for secondary
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guys, Like, it's impossible.
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Who are you gonna put in your defensive Viney, You're only pick
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two.
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The B team would be maybe one of the best
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defenses. Yeah, three of the NFL. All
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right, number one sixth round pick in
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the history of your Pittsburgh Steelers.
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It can't be anybody other than twenty ten sixth
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round pick Antonio Brown.
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Yeah, what do you want to say?
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I mean, first, I want to say. At
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the beginning of the episode, we highlighted some of the
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more famous sixth round picks
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around in the league. Jason Kelsey's one
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of the best centers ever. Tom Brady is the best
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quarterback ever. AB could be argued
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as one of the best wider seis ever. Very
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very diamond in.
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The rough picks in the sixth round
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around the NFL.
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Well, they're considered diamond in the rough because those are
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all time greats and they
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should have been taken in the first round, if not their first
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overall pick. But like, those
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are three names compared to millions
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or hundreds of things outs.
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That's a great point.
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Like, yeah, that don't
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even make.
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Don't make any team at all.
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Looking at AB's Pro Football Reference page is always
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just such an I.
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Don't like to do it. Tom, He's I
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don't like to do it, you know you.
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We always talk about, like would you ever go
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back and watch Super Bowl forty five highlights?
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No?
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Because I can't remind myself of what could
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have been if for sharn Mennenhall doesn't
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fumble up but doesn't fumble that ball. I
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can't go back and force myself
15:29
to watch Antonio round highlights because of what
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could have been if he
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doesn't get concussed by Vonteze perfect.
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He stays normal, he stays it doesn't
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have to be the best team it ever, but doesn't become
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the worst teammate of all time?
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What could have been?
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From twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen, he had six
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hundred and eighty six catches for nine hundred
15:49
and forty five yards and sixty seven
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touchdowns. He almost had
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ten thousand yards receiving and
15:56
just a five year window.
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I don't like to talk about it.
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He won AP First Team All Pro
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one to three four straight years
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from twenty fourteen to twenty seven teen.
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I believe he was unanimous one of those if
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one of if not more than one of those
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years.
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Second Team All Pro. In twenty thirteen, I
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made the Pro Bowl in all of those seasons, was
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the runner up for Offensive Player of the Year twice
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twenty fifteen and in twenty seventeen,
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and he was third place and Offensive Player of the Year
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in twenty fourteen. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer
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based on performance, the
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best pick of the Steelers
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in the sixth round, for sure. I
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just hate to see how
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tragically that career ended and how you
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know, you'd almost
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want to feel bad for him a little bit because it
16:44
was just such a total implosion, like it was nobody
16:47
else's fault but his own. But he's
16:49
also just a very bad person. He doesn't pay people
16:51
that he owes money to. That's
16:54
like his own children.
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That's like, you know, one of the least offensive
16:58
things he's done to his children, and it's
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bad.
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He's exposed himself publicly countless
17:02
times. I mean, his
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behavior is bad, his language is offensive.
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Like, you stop short of really feeling too bad, because
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again, it's all.
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I feel bad for the people of Pittsburgh who
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didn't get a championship out of that guy when
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he was at his prime.
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Yeah, that was a waste.
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And then he left and became an even worse person.
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And then won a Super Bowl Super Bowl ring elsewhere
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with a quarterback who he now also hates,
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hates Tom Brady loves Ben though we
17:30
all of a sudden loves Ben all
17:33
right.
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The seventh round some highlighted
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or some players that deserve highlighted around
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the NFL as far as seventh round picks. Our concerned.
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Julian Edelman, wide receiver for the England.
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Hall of Famer.
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In your eyes, nah, No, he's
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like in the hinde for me.
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I put Hines above him. But I'm saying, and
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one time Super Bowl MVP. That's
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correct.
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Marcus Colston, wide receiver for the Saints too.
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Yeah, I remember Marcus Colston.
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He's a good, solid, pretty good
18:03
mister hovit himself. Ryan Fitzpatrick Fitzmagic
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two thousand and five, the Saint Louis Rams picked
18:08
him.
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That would not be the last team that he played for.
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No, And he's great on teams.
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He's great on Thursday Night football too.
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Yeah, he's got a personality.
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I like it.
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Well, we saw that.
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You remember when he was in Tampa Bay and
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he he came out there like he was looking
18:23
like Connor McGregor, like with the.
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Change button or he wasn't
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even wearing a shirt like a suit jacket.
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And remember when he was done playing, he went
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to a Buffalo playoff game a couple of years ago
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in the freezing cold shirt off going
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nuts in the stands. Donald
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Driver nineteen ninety nine, Green Bay Receivers,
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great wide receiver for the Green Bay Packers, Super
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Bowl winners, super Bowl champion. Yes, let's
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see here. Jamal Anderson, picked
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by the Atlanta Falcons, had
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an All Pro season. He had
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one thousand and forty six
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yards in his all Pro season and fourteen touchdowns.
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I mean this guy one of the best, one
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of the best tight ends ever and really a pioneer
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for the tight end position, like was ahead
19:06
of his time. Shannon Sharp Baby
19:09
Hall of Famer seventh round pick nineteen ninety
19:11
by the Denver Broncos.
19:12
Love what he said in his Hall of Fame speech,
19:15
saying, how how
19:17
fortunate am I to be a Hall of
19:20
Famer And no, I'm not even the best
19:23
member football playing member.
19:25
Of my family.
19:25
Sterling if Sterling never got
19:28
hurt, Starling was so good and like.
19:30
And so so.
19:30
Part of Shannon Sharp's Hall of Fame speech
19:33
was saying, sir, like this is for me
19:35
in Sterling, Like this is not just an
19:37
end, Like he really paid tribute
19:39
to his brother.
19:41
Shannon Sharp is a funny guy.
19:43
He's a good, good cool guy club.
19:45
I mean, I like I like Shannon Sharper because we
19:47
grew up with him on the CBS
19:51
NFL cover. Right now he's kind of graduated,
19:53
and then he went too for a little bit, and
19:55
then now he's back on ESPN, and
19:58
now there's yeah.
20:00
Three time Super Bowl champion too, twice
20:03
with the Broncos. And then yeah,
20:06
Shandon Sharp one of the all time great players
20:08
in the NFL. Also one of the all
20:10
time great clips when he's playing for Bronco and there in New
20:12
England and he calls the phone, Yeah,
20:15
get the National Guard down here,
20:17
because we are beating the Patriots.
20:19
Ass they need the God, they need
20:22
the Army, send them down, like
20:24
they cannot stop us. Great
20:26
player, all time trash talker too,
20:29
and just personality, maybe
20:31
potentially the greatest athlete ever taken
20:33
in the seventh round. Bo Jackson
20:36
nineteen eighty seven Los Angeles Raiders.
20:38
Well that was the second time he
20:40
was drafted exactly.
20:42
Yeah, just gonna get there. He jumped my gun.
20:44
Sorry, he was taken first overall
20:47
in nineteen eighty six Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
20:49
People rather be like Bo Jackson was incredible
20:52
at Auburn. How was he taken in the seventh round?
20:55
Well, he refused to sign with
20:57
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with a
20:59
falling out out with the team. He instead said,
21:01
screw you, I'm gonna go play baseball for the Kansas
21:03
City Royals. But then that didn't
21:06
stop the Raiders in the seventh round from taking him.
21:08
And what a great call that was by the what
21:11
was it by then? The Los Angeles Raiders. You
21:13
gotta check me. You never know.
21:16
They came back and forth.
21:18
I know.
21:18
So Bo Jackson, what a great seventh round
21:20
pick.
21:21
Guy that Steelers fans are familiar
21:24
with, but is not on our list because
21:26
he was not drafted by the Steelers. Kicker
21:28
Gary Anderson by the Buffalo
21:30
Bill. He's in nineteen eighty.
21:31
Two second best kicker in Steelers history.
21:33
I think he's still playing, by the way. Gary Anderson, Yeah,
21:35
he played for a long until like two thousand and four, second
21:39
best Steelers kicker.
21:40
Ever behind Ray Drilla.
21:43
Roy Drilla.
21:44
Oh, I was gonna say, Bossie, but
21:47
I'm.
21:48
I'm keeping a tangent. I'm
21:50
keeping an eye on Boswell this year. Them
21:52
bringing in Matthew right this early. That's
21:55
not necessarily just like.
21:57
We're gonna bring in an extra camp leg kind of thing.
22:00
Not to say that there's a competition. I'm just saying, like they're
22:02
wondering. You have
22:04
to wonder how long couple of last
22:07
year and with just the kickers in general, like,
22:09
you have to wonder how long he had to be prepared,
22:11
because it can get already.
22:14
Three games could go.
22:16
They weren't ready. But right before they
22:18
brought in Boswell, who was that guy, Scoby,
22:21
Josh Scoby.
22:23
He cost them that year for sure, for.
22:26
He cost them at least two games that year.
22:28
One was the Baltimore game. I
22:30
remember vividly. He missed
22:32
two field goals in regulation. I think a third
22:35
in overtime could have put
22:37
the Ravens away like three different times.
22:39
And then I think there was another game early on that
22:41
year, and then.
22:42
They brought in somebody else who
22:44
also wasn't great, and
22:47
then they brought in Boswell, and
22:49
then that's all she wrote. And
22:51
do you remember they brought in Scope because
22:53
preseason Sean Sweesm
22:56
got hurt and he was I believe
22:58
out for the year, and so they said,
23:00
well, we have to bring in somebody.
23:02
They brought in.
23:03
Scoby didn't work
23:05
out, then Boz did, and then
23:07
I guess Sean Sweeum retired
23:10
because.
23:10
I don't remember swee did retire.
23:12
He got hurt.
23:13
Do you remember Sweehen really got a bad injury or something.
23:15
I just said that.
23:16
I just said that he got hurt pre season,
23:18
and so that's why they had to bring in Scoby.
23:21
But then they brought they brought in bos. It was like, we
23:23
can't go back to swe.
23:24
He's looking up Sweerom there when you said that. Yeah,
23:27
yeah, I think that's exactly how the timeline went down.
23:30
And now it's been ever since, aside from
23:32
a few Matthew rights sprinkled in there.
23:34
Because so maybe
23:37
you know Sewn Sweetsum, you
23:39
hate to see him go down, but maybe it was the right.
23:41
It was destiny because
23:43
you got to bring in Boz. You had
23:45
to suffer with Scoby before
23:48
you can enjoy the
23:50
highs of Boz. Do you remember when Boss tried
23:52
to do that uh on side kick against Baltimore.
23:54
Did it again and when he was at Rice he did it successfully.
23:57
Well, he did not do it and
23:59
he kicks it behind his back. Yeah, he did not do
24:01
it against Balton. It's very bad.
24:03
When it doesn't work out, it looks really bad.
24:05
All right, seventh round pick for the Steelers. There's
24:09
not really many.
24:09
Guys to highlight outside.
24:11
There's one guy the top five.
24:12
Well, well there's one guy specifically.
24:14
You think that number one isn't in the top Well, yeah,
24:16
the number one guy in the Hall of Honor
24:18
for sure.
24:19
I think we might be thinking of two different people though.
24:22
Oh there's two
24:24
guys.
24:24
I think that were very clearly.
24:26
Okay, well, let's get one to Let's get to
24:29
the honorable mentions again.
24:30
Like I said, there's not really many, so I'm just gonna be like the guys that are
24:33
active right now. Corey Trice and Spencer Anderson,
24:36
Oladokain and Mark Robinson are active. Presley
24:39
Harvin in twenty twenty one is still active, but he's not a Steeler.
24:42
Tyler Mattakaevich in twenty sixteen still
24:45
active. Nick Williams twenty
24:47
thirteen pick, still active
24:49
player.
24:49
I'll tell you this, don't remember the name Nick Williams,
24:53
right, and then you know, I just don't
24:55
see any other guys that are really worthy
24:57
of an honorable mention, because if I
25:00
wanted to mention them, I would have put him in my top five.
25:02
It's a little bit thin when you get to
25:04
this point. So number
25:06
five for me and number four for
25:08
me are draft picks that were really
25:10
good NFL players. Jacob just
25:12
not s maybe a little bit
25:15
with the Steelers with one of these guys, but
25:17
not like known as
25:19
a Pittsburgh Steeler. Number five for
25:21
me is a Q Shipley. Okay, Steelers
25:23
picked him in two thousand and nine with
25:25
the seventh round pick. And I completely
25:28
understand. Aq Shipley. You know, never
25:30
played a snap for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He
25:32
never suited up in the Pittsburgh Steelers, and from they traded
25:35
him away to the Colts. But
25:37
he was a really good seventh round pick. I
25:39
mean, he started in this league from twenty twelve up to
25:41
twenty twenty. He's a local kid. So
25:43
maybe that's given me a little bit of bis and putting him
25:45
in here and again, like I'm saying, there's
25:47
just you know, I know he never played
25:49
for the Steelers technically, but he was
25:52
their draft pick. You're in the seventh round
25:54
now, things are getting a little bit thin. That's
25:56
why I put him at number five because he is a
25:59
right clearly one of the top five best
26:01
players taken in this section of the draft,
26:03
even if he didn't end up being a Steeler that much.
26:07
So that's my number five.
26:09
Then at number four, this
26:11
was one that was really really hard for
26:13
me to choose. There's two
26:16
guys that I think could be on this list.
26:18
You could have David Little, the linebacker
26:20
taken in nineteen eighty one by
26:22
the Pittsburgh Steelers, played his
26:24
entire career here nineteen eighty one
26:26
to nineteen ninety two, so very
26:29
solid starter, made one Pro Bowl
26:31
in nineteen ninety Other
26:34
than that.
26:34
Was just kind of like, you know, solid
26:37
sure.
26:37
So David Little, for sure is
26:40
somebody that I could see being
26:43
added to your list and I wouldn't push back on you.
26:45
And then the other guy going even further back
26:48
is Dick Hoke, the running back. Played
26:51
his entire career again with the Steelers nineteen sixty one
26:53
to nineteen seventy played
26:55
in that kind of forgotten era of Pittsburgh Steelers
26:58
football where they were really bad. Was
27:01
there for one year with me and Joe Green in
27:03
that transition made a Pro Bowl in nineteen sixty
27:06
eight. You picked
27:08
Dick Coke David Little. I think
27:10
either one is a solid number four choice. They played
27:12
a long time as a Steeler, made
27:14
one Pro Bowl each other than
27:17
that, there's really nothing to write home about though. But
27:19
I mean, again, for a seventh round pick, you got, Yeah, you
27:21
got David playing for ten years.
27:24
You got Dick Cokee playing for nine.
27:25
That's that's all you can That's I mean,
27:27
you get three years out of a seventh
27:29
round pick, you feel pretty good about it.
27:32
Oh even a year or
27:34
two.
27:35
Of like special out like a rookie
27:37
contract. Yeah, that's that's all
27:40
you That's all you can ask for.
27:42
All right.
27:42
Number three for me is still active
27:44
in the end.
27:45
So this is fun because I think we could
27:47
go a lot.
27:47
Of places with but go ahead,
27:49
Well, to me, it's it's Calvin Beacham
27:51
coming in at number three.
27:52
I like it because the
27:55
longevity for Dodgers
27:57
with the Steelersburg.
28:00
He spent four years with Pittsburgh, four years with Arizona,
28:02
four years or three years with the Jets, and he has
28:05
a year in Jacksonville, that's where
28:07
he went after his time in Pittsburgh.
28:10
But the fact that he is still playing
28:12
in the NFL. He's still on the Arizona Cardinals,
28:15
still signed to that team.
28:18
Again, kind of going back to what we were saying with
28:20
David Little or Dick Coke, like those
28:22
two made a probo Kevin Bach have never made a Pro Bowl.
28:25
But the fact that you were
28:27
picked in that seventh round
28:30
and have been playing for over
28:32
a decade now in the NFL and
28:35
most of that time being a starter. Wasn't a starter last
28:37
year in Arizona. But he's gonna be thirty
28:39
five years old. I mean, that
28:42
is so damn impressive. Like, sure,
28:45
you know, you get the Brock parties that is
28:47
probably playing himself into being one of the best seventh round
28:49
picks out. Yeah, for sure. And it's
28:52
impressive to see that kind of short term
28:55
explosion out of him. But it's still
28:57
just as impressive to see the sky Beacham carve out this
28:59
kind of or for him.
29:00
He's played in one hundred and sixty three games
29:03
as a seventh round pick. We just said, if
29:05
you can play a year or two as a seventh round
29:07
pick, that's solid. He's played in over one
29:09
hundred and fifty games in his career.
29:12
Truly remarkable. And then finally number
29:15
two and number one, number two you
29:17
got.
29:19
I want you to say it first.
29:21
I want you to say. I'm gonna say,
29:23
Tyler Bakevich.
29:24
No, you weren't shut up.
29:25
I wasn't.
29:27
Go ahead, I'll put Brett Keesl
29:29
at number two?
29:31
Should I put Ray Mathews?
29:34
Should I?
29:35
Should I put Ray Ray at number two?
29:37
Yeah?
29:38
Yeah, I'll do that because Keesl's
29:41
our era.
29:42
Yeah, that we know and
29:44
love.
29:45
But Ray Matthews might have been a better player
29:48
than Brett Keesel say. That's
29:50
all I'm gonna say. Both really
29:52
great players, especially for seventh
29:55
round picks. I mean, you can't
29:57
ask for more than what those guys gave you in
29:59
there careers. Ray Matthews
30:01
made it to two Pro Bowls, played
30:05
for the Steelers between
30:07
nineteen fifty one.
30:09
And that's all I gotta say. Like
30:12
Tom, like.
30:13
In nineteen sixty he played for the Cowboys
30:16
for one year, You're right, I mean, what
30:18
am I doing? Why am I going only back to the fifties
30:21
with my guy?
30:22
Like I understand, you have to preserve history.
30:24
You have to honor your past.
30:26
And Matthews probably the first
30:28
best running back in Steelers.
30:29
Is he in the Hall of Honor.
30:30
Yep, yeah, okay, oh he just got
30:32
in his past.
30:34
Year, not this past year, but recently.
30:36
Yeah.
30:36
He was in uh one
30:38
Pro Bowl for Brett Keesl in twenty ten. And
30:41
like, here's the thing.
30:42
If Keyslo super Bowl rings for Beth
30:45
if Keisa was playing in today's era
30:48
where the fans vote on the Pro Bowl,
30:50
you're.
30:50
Telling me what voting
30:53
Keyesel every damn year.
30:56
Kesill played only five games in two thousand and
30:58
two after being drafted in the seventh round, normal
31:00
for a seventh round pick. Then he missed the entire
31:02
twenty two thousand and three season due to an injured
31:05
shoulder. The fact that he was able
31:07
to rebound from just playing five games in two
31:09
years in the NFL and be
31:11
a bench piece for two thousand and four two thousand and five
31:13
before eventually starting from two thousand and six on incredibly
31:17
done.
31:17
I mean, just.
31:19
You have to be wired to be at Beach
31:22
him, to be at Keesel. There's gotta
31:24
be a different wiring because
31:26
so many people for six rounds
31:28
quoite on you. You're not good enough, we don't want you,
31:31
and you have to prove
31:34
yourself almost all over again. And they've done it successfully,
31:36
Beach, I'm still playing Kesel's Steelers
31:39
Hall of Honor, a consummate Steeler
31:41
who will forever be remembered.
31:43
So yeah, like to me, that's that's
31:45
and I understand it's harder,
31:47
Like there weren't as many people around in the fifties
31:50
that are still around today watching this team, so you
31:52
can't really say, like, oh, the people in the
31:54
fifties who were around would remember
31:56
Ray Matthews just Keyesel.
31:59
It's personality too.
32:01
It's the off, it's the once he retired
32:04
legacy that adds to it. He's still
32:06
very involved with the organization. He's
32:09
still doing things with the team. He shows
32:11
up the training camp like he
32:14
is a larger than life, larger than
32:16
just on the field production kind of guy.
32:18
And for him to do it as a seventh round pick speaks
32:21
even more volume to who he is.
32:22
Yeah, he was just at the Paling game, like right
32:24
a week ago with him and Paul Malo because they were at
32:27
Melbourne and Russell Wilson mel
32:29
Blunt's charity thing that roast
32:33
maybe I think charity roast well,
32:36
regardless they were in town, they went to famous there's still
32:39
intricral members of the Pittsburgh community.
32:42
I can't.
32:42
Yeah, I got no problem with the switch of Brett
32:44
Keesel in.
32:45
Front of him, cannot do it.
32:46
But I think Ray and Brett are clearly one and two
32:48
when it comes to Nola. For Tyler, manakeeva Cho still
32:51
playing.
32:53
Yeah, he was in Buffalo last year.
32:54
I do remember that, still a solid special teams player.
32:58
Didn't know this about joke, but.
33:00
Like Manna Kaevitch is still in a good seventh
33:02
round pick's made
33:04
that could have been like a solid honorable mansion.
33:08
Didn't know that he that Keysel going
33:10
back to him went to a junior college, snow college
33:13
before going to BUYU.
33:16
Wasn't probably very book smart. I'm just gonna assume
33:18
that happens a lot with these
33:20
players. You know, you just need to get the grades up a little
33:22
bit before you can go dominate in the NFL.
33:25
D and in D one. Yeah, he
33:27
got his way, he found his way into a D.
33:29
One squ What a great seventh round pick.
33:31
I mean, there are people out there that
33:35
maybe grew up in the eighties,
33:37
like maybe just missed on the seventies, like getting
33:39
to watch those teams that grew up
33:42
in the eighties, nineties and now have seen the two thousands
33:44
seas and there's probably some people out there that
33:46
say Brett Kezel is one of my favorite all
33:48
time steals.
33:49
Oh for sure, he's a favorite. There's no question he's
33:51
fans favorite.
33:53
And you're not just talking about like now, I'll
33:56
I'll reverse on what I was trying
33:58
to say earlier. Now I'm not try to talk
34:00
about like just guys like watching
34:03
him on the field get a sack,
34:05
Like how you mentioned that the celebration. There
34:08
are people out there that say one of my favorite players
34:10
to watch was Brett Keizel.
34:13
Well, that'll do it for us.
34:14
In our series of Pittsburgh Steelers
34:16
All Time rounds, rounds one through seven.
34:19
Also shout out to Calvin Beacham too, Like that's
34:22
just a great career for a seventh round
34:24
pick.
34:24
And it has not ended yet. It will continue into
34:27
twenty twenty four. Draft starts
34:29
on Thursday, eight o'clock. We're
34:31
on the air at seven, not me and him, but snr's
34:34
coverages on the air at seven. You
34:36
got Williamson, you got Lolly, you got Perzuda,
34:38
you got du Lac, you got Tom Bradley, you got
34:40
me, you got wet.
34:41
I mean everybody.
34:42
Everybody's checking in, and.
34:43
Then everyone's back on Friday and Saturday.
34:46
Friday. As long as the draft is happening,
34:48
SNR is on the air, and I.
34:49
Believe there's a preview show Wednesday
34:52
Night's.
34:52
Ryan DV DV with Lollly Williamson
34:54
and Persuda.
34:55
So and then there's a no show on Monday.
34:58
So we got it all for you here on SNR
35:00
are the best draft coverage you can get. Very
35:02
excited for it to start on Thursday. We'll be back on
35:04
Friday to recap the first round pick and
35:06
continue to preview rounds too through
35:09
seven's I'm
35:12
excited. I'm excited for this draft. Thursday
35:15
at eight o'clock in Detroit, it all kicks
35:17
off. He's Jacob brec Do. I'm Tom Opperman.
35:19
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