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Ep 3:  Ranking the Best Sixth and Seventh Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Ep 3:  Ranking the Best Sixth and Seventh Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

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Ep 3:  Ranking the Best Sixth and Seventh Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Ep 3:  Ranking the Best Sixth and Seventh Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Ep 3:  Ranking the Best Sixth and Seventh Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Ep 3:  Ranking the Best Sixth and Seventh Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Tuesday, 23rd April 2024
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This is the Steelers standard on

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Steelers Nation Radio and podcast

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on Steelers dot com.

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Pittsburgh Steelers have probably the

0:19

richest history of draft picks

0:22

in NFL history,

0:25

and that isn't exclusive

0:28

to one round. We've done this project

0:30

for the weeks leading up to the draft

0:33

now, where we've been looking at rounds one, two, three, four,

0:35

five and determining the

0:38

all time great players from each round

0:40

in Pittsburgh Steelers history. And we've got

0:42

like seven Hall of famers already. You

0:45

know, they have picked a Hall of Famer in every

0:47

round one through five in

0:49

their history of the NFL and wild just

0:52

a spoiler alert, there would be

0:54

a number six round pick that well

0:56

would make the Hall of Fame if he wasn't

0:58

say.

0:59

He's not even l yet.

1:00

No, he's not. Numbers

1:03

wise, performance on the field wise, he absolutely

1:05

is a first ballot Hall of Famer,

1:07

honestly, but he's also a first

1:10

ballot psychopath of a person.

1:11

Yeah, so probably not gonna get in.

1:13

We'll get to him in.

1:14

A second, but before we highlight

1:16

the Steelers' sixth round picks, we'll do sixth round

1:18

first, then we'll get the seventh round. Here are

1:20

some popular sixth round picks in

1:23

NFL history for you. Recently

1:25

retired center of the Philadelphia Eagles, Jason

1:27

Kelsey was picked in the sixth round. I

1:29

want to talk about a goat getting drafted.

1:33

There's that Steeler. We'll talk about him later. Antoine

1:36

bethea defensive back from the Indianapolis

1:38

Colts. This

1:40

is weird that this guy would be on this list. I don't

1:42

remember him playing for the Patriots. I remember his time

1:44

in Tampa Bay. Tom

1:48

Brady, Yeah, I guess that's

1:50

pretty decent.

1:51

In fact, do you remember who the number one overall pick

1:53

was for that year? Quarterback?

1:55

I don't tell me the fun fact Chad Pennington

1:58

okay career, but not Tom

2:00

Brady.

2:01

He was an okay and Adam Marshall was

2:04

okay with Do.

2:05

You remember who his wide receiver was in Marshall? Randy

2:08

Mouse, Mark.

2:09

Bolger quarterback, West

2:11

Virginia local guy M. H. Pitt

2:14

never recruited him, went to West Virginia. Shove

2:16

it up Pitt's butt in the background. I think he threw for like

2:18

seven touchdown passes in that game. He

2:21

was the guy who came in after Kurt Warner in

2:23

Saint Louis and was pretty good for a couple

2:25

of years. Mark Boulger, but a seventh round pick there.

2:29

Matt Hasselback, quarterback for the Green Bay

2:31

Pack drafted. We

2:33

were familiar with him in this time with the Seattle

2:35

Seas Old Super Bowl. Fell seventh

2:38

round pick.

2:39

Castleback.

2:40

Really good career considering he was a seventh round

2:42

pick. I mean, became the guy for Seattle. Do

2:44

you remember the amazing h Coin

2:46

toss though in overtime when he was playing the Packers when.

2:48

He says we're going to get the ball and we're going to score.

2:51

And pick six like first play.

2:54

Let's see here a couple linemen,

2:57

Oh, Terrell Davis Mney

3:00

back for the Denver Broncos. Hall of famer, Yeah,

3:02

hall of famer, MVP, just

3:04

a totally great player.

3:07

For Denver.

3:08

Here's another one of those Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll get

3:10

to him in a second. Mark Rippion, quarterback

3:12

of the Washington Well, they used to be

3:14

called something else, the Washington football team now.

3:17

Jovachek tight end for the Saint Louis

3:19

Cardinals. Let's see

3:21

here, any other name of

3:24

note in the seventh round. Make

3:26

sure that the old heads don't get mad at me. Here.

3:29

That's pretty much it.

3:30

I mean, you got a bunch of black and white pictures that I'm looking

3:32

at, so forget that, all right. The

3:34

Steelers in the sixth round, it

3:38

gets a little bit thin when you get to the sixth

3:40

and the seven.

3:41

Seventh round especially was real.

3:42

Sixth round, sixth round was surprisingly

3:44

things fell into place for me.

3:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:47

Seventh round just you know, just pretty

3:49

tough. I'll say this.

3:51

One guy in the sixth round that didn't make my list, Dwayne

3:53

Woodriff the Judge, played

3:56

a long time with the Pittsburgh Steelers, never made

3:58

a problem, never made an All Pro, but people.

4:00

Remember doing wood drift and they know who he

4:03

is.

4:03

I got to sit down with him for one of those Steelers

4:05

alumni nights. Awesome guy the Judge.

4:07

Yeah, don't break any crimes around

4:09

him.

4:10

Christumtu Mafala didn't

4:13

make my list, but a here time name

4:15

and here at Pittsburgh Steelers ever like

4:19

the best name in the history of Chris.

4:24

Come on, you know how to say it, It rolls off your time.

4:27

But to read it

4:29

is even hard.

4:31

Yeah, you can't read it. You gotta just know it right.

4:34

What a bst that guy was. Chris Katu

4:37

guard drafted in two thousand and five by the Steelers

4:40

in the seventh round. Not a bad pick. A

4:42

lot three years they played, it played a decent

4:45

amount name that you'll remember. Jonathan

4:47

Dwyer in twenty ten. Love Jonathan

4:49

Dwyer, beefy, beefy guy him

4:51

and like that that due of him and Isaac

4:53

Redmond. We're just tough running

4:56

back.

4:56

It's just funny, man. Like some of these names you remember,

4:58

and some of them you have.

4:59

No they sound like Dwyer play

5:01

no, no, no, I know Dwyer's like, but some of these names

5:03

sound like they were created on Madden, like a like a

5:06

random name generator.

5:07

Like Dwyre, I believe.

5:08

Twenty fourteen, I know Dan mccallers.

5:11

I can't forget Dan McCullers. But

5:13

then also in twenty fourteen, Jordan's and Walt

5:16

I have no idea that that idea is.

5:18

But mccallors you remember because

5:20

he was that guy that somehow just stuck around.

5:22

There forever twenty fourteen to twenty twenty.

5:24

He was there for six years. Anthony

5:26

Chickelow in twenty fifteen, we remember him, but

5:29

also in twenty fifteen, Notarious Walton,

5:31

No I had no idea who the hell that guy is.

5:34

I'm sure like Dale Lawley and Boba Everett.

5:36

Oh, I remember twenty sixteenth pick in the sixth

5:38

round, Travis Feeney. And then, of course we

5:40

could forget twenty seventeenth six round pick Colin

5:43

Holba uh

5:45

Ulyssias Gilbert in twenty nineteen and Isaiah Bugs

5:47

in twenty nineteen. We I do remember those guys.

5:50

No sixth round pick last year for the Steelers. The most

5:52

recent sixth round pick on the team's roster Connor

5:55

Hayward. Okay, sixth round pick

5:57

in twenty twenty two, all right, brother,

6:00

So for number five on my list, Yeah,

6:04

I went into the wordback

6:06

machine. Okay, I'm talking

6:08

nineteen fifty one NFL

6:11

draft, the Steelers picked a guy by the name of

6:13

Dale Doddrel. His position

6:15

is listed as MG whatever that

6:17

means, and linebacker. Dale

6:20

Doddrel made a first team All Pro for the Steelers

6:22

in nineteen fifty four. He was two second

6:25

team All Pro nods in nineteen fifty two

6:27

in nineteen fifty five as well, made

6:30

four Pro Bowlers, and he was a Steeler

6:32

from nineteen fifty one to nineteen fifty nine.

6:34

I have no idea about Dale Doldrel, but that

6:36

seems to me like a pretty damn good six

6:38

round pick to have that kind of a resume,

6:41

and he was a career steeler, So if that's what gave

6:43

me the nod, even though I have no idea who he is. You

6:45

want me to put a Kimoyatu a Fumatuma follow

6:48

on there, Sure, I'd love to, But

6:50

you can't tell me that Doddrel, even if he was playing in the

6:52

fifties, wasn't a better player than those two guys were,

6:54

right, all right?

6:56

Now that we got that guy out of the way, Okay, let's get

6:58

her names that everybody knows.

7:02

I got twenty thirteen.

7:04

MG, I still came.

7:06

Looked that up.

7:06

Twenty thirteen six

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round pick.

7:09

Vince Williams.

7:10

Love it?

7:12

What did he want to? Vince Williams

7:15

Actually, as he would like to be.

7:16

Remembered, still kind of wish that he

7:19

was playing. Maybe not now,

7:21

Yeah, he was thirty six now, but

7:24

in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two kind

7:26

of needed Vince Williams. But

7:29

good for him for being able to walk away from the

7:31

game when he

7:33

was ready for it and before he

7:35

caused a lot of damage, I'm sure to his body.

7:38

The thing that Vince Williams really excelled

7:40

at started around twenty seventeen.

7:43

Eight sacks on the season from the inside

7:45

spot, then four and a half the next year. He was

7:47

a bullet.

7:48

He also was doing very well tackles

7:50

for losses.

7:51

You know there was a time in like twenty nineteen

7:54

he was at one point well

7:56

on into the season, leading the league and taggles for

7:58

loss.

7:59

Vince Williams was never a great linebacker.

8:02

I'm not trying to make him out to be one, but

8:04

he was a solid starter and

8:08

for a six round pick, that's all you can ask for. And

8:10

I think what's so impressive He started

8:12

eleven games in twenty thirteen as a rookie.

8:15

A rookie, sixth round pick started

8:17

eleven games for the Pittsburgh

8:19

Steelers at the inside linebacker position.

8:22

So you want to talk about getting a lot of

8:24

value for a player, Oh yeah, Vince Williams

8:26

for sure.

8:26

And just a fan favor too. Don't

8:29

know anyone in Pittsburgh that disliked Vince

8:31

Williams. Still a great Twitter follow as well.

8:34

Definitely ultimate fan favorite.

8:35

Checking in at number three here for me nineteen

8:38

eighty six round pick mister

8:41

Oakin punch Elkin, Yeah,

8:43

it has to be. Two time Pro bowler for

8:45

the Steelers, spent

8:49

majority of his career in Pittsburgh.

8:51

That one game he played for

8:53

the.

8:53

Green Bay Packers, just one game he

8:55

played in nineteen ninety three.

8:57

We forget about that, though. We neuralized

8:59

that from our memory.

9:00

He was a Steeler from nineteen eighty all the way up until

9:02

nineteen eighty two, a

9:05

starter for the team since nineteen eighty three

9:08

up until the end at nineteen ninety two, Two

9:10

time Pro Bowl or eighty eight and eighty nine.

9:13

His on the field performance absolutely

9:15

merits him being a part of the top five six

9:17

round picks of all time.

9:19

But then on top of him being.

9:22

Exploding into even more of a.

9:24

Steelers icon post career just

9:26

solidifies it.

9:27

I mean, he was also a two time Pro Bowl, That's what

9:29

I mean.

9:29

Like, even if he didn't broadcast and we were just

9:31

doing this research, we'd have been like, yeah, Ton Jokum was probably

9:34

a top five pick in the sixth round, but just

9:36

he became even larger than just his on field

9:39

persona because his off the field persona was so great

9:41

and definitely, And you've all heard this

9:43

before, and when he passed

9:45

away, unfortunately, everybody had nice

9:47

things to say about him, because no one has a bad thing

9:50

to say about the guy. It

9:52

was all true too. I mean, like the coolest

9:54

guy to work with, the nicest guy. Funny,

9:56

yeah, fun really funny.

9:58

I was like, my, I think and you would

10:00

agree with this.

10:02

We all we always say, like, the first experience

10:04

you get working here was with touch and Wolf

10:06

was tounch of wolf in sand and working

10:08

with Touch of Wolf. It was just funny

10:12

to hear those guys go back and forth and to

10:14

hear them rip each other. It wasn't

10:16

just like one was giving in one was take they

10:18

were both. It was just like it was

10:20

legitimately like being in a locker room. As

10:23

as corny as that is to say, that's

10:25

what it felt like, all right.

10:27

Now, Number two and number one are legit

10:29

stud players, Okay, I mean I'm talking

10:31

top line. These guys should have been picked, not

10:33

first round, top ten players.

10:37

Greg Lloyd nineteen eighty seven, Yeah, number sixth

10:39

round pick, number two. I

10:42

mean he was a runner up for the Defensive

10:44

Player of the Year in nineteen ninety five. He was third place

10:46

in nineteen ninety four. Both of those seasons

10:48

he was a first team All Pro, and in nineteen

10:51

ninety three he was the first team All Pro. So three years

10:53

straight as the first team All Pro, and from

10:55

nineteen ninety one all the way up to nineteen ninety five he

10:57

was a Pro Bowler in each season. Greg

11:00

Lloyd had a peak for real ninety one to ninety

11:02

five, and then he kind of got hurt in the ninety

11:05

six season, only played one game, came

11:07

back, wasn't the same, spent

11:09

that one year in Carolina to end his career in nineteen

11:12

ninety eight. But my god,

11:15

what an absolute steal

11:17

of a sixth round pick, and in

11:21

most teams history this

11:24

caliber player would by

11:26

far be their best sixth round pick ever.

11:27

I mean, yeah, if there wasn't a guy

11:30

who league wide might

11:32

be considered borderline Hall of Famer just because

11:35

of you know what he's

11:37

on off the field. But Greg

11:39

Lloyd is just an awesome guy. Two things

11:41

I'll always remember, because I wasn't around to really

11:44

watch him, was a sideline

11:46

interaction between him and coach Kward just getting

11:48

fired up. And then when

11:51

they won the AC Championship

11:53

game against the colts him in the locker

11:55

room saying, this is what we came for. I

11:57

mean we were here a year ago, we're back.

11:59

We did it. And then you can hear everyone

12:03

in that Apua room cheering him on.

12:04

Greg Lloyd and Kevin Green. Yeah,

12:07

what a tandem that was.

12:08

I mean, that's just that as that is

12:11

just one of many chapters

12:13

in the long lineage of Steelers

12:16

linebackers.

12:16

Yeah, and those two are really unique because they didn't

12:18

win, Like, those two are really.

12:20

And they're just they are

12:23

that just because they didn't win doesn't mean they're less

12:25

talented. They are as good

12:28

as linebackers get in the NFL.

12:30

They are both Hall of famers. I

12:32

mean, how rare is it to say that at

12:35

any point in your franchise?

12:36

Is history not?

12:37

But Green is

12:40

wit?

12:40

Is it?

12:41

No?

12:41

I mean he didn't have that long of a career. Yeah, not

12:43

hurt Green, Yes, but it's

12:45

okay, I'm a little upset he

12:47

could be a Hall of Fame.

12:48

Let's say that he should be.

12:50

Okay, your Hall of Fame caliber,

12:52

We'll say, how.

12:53

Let's make it more accurate. Two first team All

12:55

pros in a in a three years.

12:57

How often is it that you see

12:59

if franchise get one

13:02

of those players, let alone two at the same

13:04

position playing at the exact same

13:06

time. And that's what the Steelers have done

13:09

their entire history for the last

13:11

fifty plus years.

13:12

You can only feel two starting outside linebackers

13:14

in your all time team. That means guys

13:16

like Lloyd Green the left

13:18

off the list. I mean, I

13:21

know who's starting, TJ and James?

13:23

Yeah yeah, Oh no,

13:25

TJ and Hammer oh Man. See

13:28

like I had it in the vein of pass rusher. I

13:30

wasn't even thinking about Hammer because of his unique.

13:32

So what would you So you would put

13:34

TJ and James like up front and then lead

13:36

Hammer Lambert kind

13:38

of.

13:39

Second, I'm moving Ham to the inside.

13:41

That's what I'm doing on my all time.

13:42

No, you can't. I did it? You

13:45

got no.

13:45

I like though, it's

13:48

unbelievable the caliber players you're leaving

13:50

off of an all time out.

13:52

Well, Like, here's what like, here's the like, here's

13:54

the issue is that, Okay, do

13:56

you only put two members of your defensive

13:58

lineup front? If you're gonna put

14:00

two edge rushers, two defensive linemen, three linebackers

14:03

force for for secondary

14:05

guys, Like, it's impossible.

14:07

Who are you gonna put in your defensive Viney, You're only pick

14:09

two.

14:09

The B team would be maybe one of the best

14:11

defenses. Yeah, three of the NFL. All

14:14

right, number one sixth round pick in

14:16

the history of your Pittsburgh Steelers.

14:18

It can't be anybody other than twenty ten sixth

14:21

round pick Antonio Brown.

14:22

Yeah, what do you want to say?

14:25

I mean, first, I want to say. At

14:27

the beginning of the episode, we highlighted some of the

14:29

more famous sixth round picks

14:31

around in the league. Jason Kelsey's one

14:34

of the best centers ever. Tom Brady is the best

14:36

quarterback ever. AB could be argued

14:38

as one of the best wider seis ever. Very

14:41

very diamond in.

14:42

The rough picks in the sixth round

14:45

around the NFL.

14:46

Well, they're considered diamond in the rough because those are

14:48

all time greats and they

14:51

should have been taken in the first round, if not their first

14:53

overall pick. But like, those

14:55

are three names compared to millions

14:58

or hundreds of things outs.

14:59

That's a great point.

15:00

Like, yeah, that don't

15:02

even make.

15:04

Don't make any team at all.

15:06

Looking at AB's Pro Football Reference page is always

15:09

just such an I.

15:09

Don't like to do it. Tom, He's I

15:12

don't like to do it, you know you.

15:14

We always talk about, like would you ever go

15:16

back and watch Super Bowl forty five highlights?

15:19

No?

15:20

Because I can't remind myself of what could

15:22

have been if for sharn Mennenhall doesn't

15:24

fumble up but doesn't fumble that ball. I

15:26

can't go back and force myself

15:29

to watch Antonio round highlights because of what

15:31

could have been if he

15:33

doesn't get concussed by Vonteze perfect.

15:36

He stays normal, he stays it doesn't

15:38

have to be the best team it ever, but doesn't become

15:40

the worst teammate of all time?

15:43

What could have been?

15:45

From twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen, he had six

15:47

hundred and eighty six catches for nine hundred

15:49

and forty five yards and sixty seven

15:51

touchdowns. He almost had

15:53

ten thousand yards receiving and

15:56

just a five year window.

16:00

I don't like to talk about it.

16:02

He won AP First Team All Pro

16:04

one to three four straight years

16:07

from twenty fourteen to twenty seven teen.

16:08

I believe he was unanimous one of those if

16:11

one of if not more than one of those

16:13

years.

16:13

Second Team All Pro. In twenty thirteen, I

16:16

made the Pro Bowl in all of those seasons, was

16:18

the runner up for Offensive Player of the Year twice

16:20

twenty fifteen and in twenty seventeen,

16:23

and he was third place and Offensive Player of the Year

16:26

in twenty fourteen. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer

16:28

based on performance, the

16:31

best pick of the Steelers

16:33

in the sixth round, for sure. I

16:35

just hate to see how

16:37

tragically that career ended and how you

16:40

know, you'd almost

16:42

want to feel bad for him a little bit because it

16:44

was just such a total implosion, like it was nobody

16:47

else's fault but his own. But he's

16:49

also just a very bad person. He doesn't pay people

16:51

that he owes money to. That's

16:54

like his own children.

16:55

That's like, you know, one of the least offensive

16:58

things he's done to his children, and it's

17:00

bad.

17:00

He's exposed himself publicly countless

17:02

times. I mean, his

17:05

behavior is bad, his language is offensive.

17:07

Like, you stop short of really feeling too bad, because

17:10

again, it's all.

17:11

I feel bad for the people of Pittsburgh who

17:15

didn't get a championship out of that guy when

17:17

he was at his prime.

17:18

Yeah, that was a waste.

17:19

And then he left and became an even worse person.

17:22

And then won a Super Bowl Super Bowl ring elsewhere

17:24

with a quarterback who he now also hates,

17:28

hates Tom Brady loves Ben though we

17:30

all of a sudden loves Ben all

17:33

right.

17:33

The seventh round some highlighted

17:35

or some players that deserve highlighted around

17:38

the NFL as far as seventh round picks. Our concerned.

17:40

Julian Edelman, wide receiver for the England.

17:43

Hall of Famer.

17:43

In your eyes, nah, No, he's

17:46

like in the hinde for me.

17:49

I put Hines above him. But I'm saying, and

17:54

one time Super Bowl MVP. That's

17:56

correct.

17:57

Marcus Colston, wide receiver for the Saints too.

17:59

Yeah, I remember Marcus Colston.

18:01

He's a good, solid, pretty good

18:03

mister hovit himself. Ryan Fitzpatrick Fitzmagic

18:06

two thousand and five, the Saint Louis Rams picked

18:08

him.

18:09

That would not be the last team that he played for.

18:11

No, And he's great on teams.

18:14

He's great on Thursday Night football too.

18:16

Yeah, he's got a personality.

18:17

I like it.

18:18

Well, we saw that.

18:18

You remember when he was in Tampa Bay and

18:21

he he came out there like he was looking

18:23

like Connor McGregor, like with the.

18:24

Change button or he wasn't

18:26

even wearing a shirt like a suit jacket.

18:28

And remember when he was done playing, he went

18:30

to a Buffalo playoff game a couple of years ago

18:32

in the freezing cold shirt off going

18:35

nuts in the stands. Donald

18:37

Driver nineteen ninety nine, Green Bay Receivers,

18:40

great wide receiver for the Green Bay Packers, Super

18:42

Bowl winners, super Bowl champion. Yes, let's

18:45

see here. Jamal Anderson, picked

18:47

by the Atlanta Falcons, had

18:50

an All Pro season. He had

18:52

one thousand and forty six

18:54

yards in his all Pro season and fourteen touchdowns.

18:59

I mean this guy one of the best, one

19:02

of the best tight ends ever and really a pioneer

19:04

for the tight end position, like was ahead

19:06

of his time. Shannon Sharp Baby

19:09

Hall of Famer seventh round pick nineteen ninety

19:11

by the Denver Broncos.

19:12

Love what he said in his Hall of Fame speech,

19:15

saying, how how

19:17

fortunate am I to be a Hall of

19:20

Famer And no, I'm not even the best

19:23

member football playing member.

19:25

Of my family.

19:25

Sterling if Sterling never got

19:28

hurt, Starling was so good and like.

19:30

And so so.

19:30

Part of Shannon Sharp's Hall of Fame speech

19:33

was saying, sir, like this is for me

19:35

in Sterling, Like this is not just an

19:37

end, Like he really paid tribute

19:39

to his brother.

19:41

Shannon Sharp is a funny guy.

19:43

He's a good, good cool guy club.

19:45

I mean, I like I like Shannon Sharper because we

19:47

grew up with him on the CBS

19:51

NFL cover. Right now he's kind of graduated,

19:53

and then he went too for a little bit, and

19:55

then now he's back on ESPN, and

19:58

now there's yeah.

20:00

Three time Super Bowl champion too, twice

20:03

with the Broncos. And then yeah,

20:06

Shandon Sharp one of the all time great players

20:08

in the NFL. Also one of the all

20:10

time great clips when he's playing for Bronco and there in New

20:12

England and he calls the phone, Yeah,

20:15

get the National Guard down here,

20:17

because we are beating the Patriots.

20:19

Ass they need the God, they need

20:22

the Army, send them down, like

20:24

they cannot stop us. Great

20:26

player, all time trash talker too,

20:29

and just personality, maybe

20:31

potentially the greatest athlete ever taken

20:33

in the seventh round. Bo Jackson

20:36

nineteen eighty seven Los Angeles Raiders.

20:38

Well that was the second time he

20:40

was drafted exactly.

20:42

Yeah, just gonna get there. He jumped my gun.

20:44

Sorry, he was taken first overall

20:47

in nineteen eighty six Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

20:49

People rather be like Bo Jackson was incredible

20:52

at Auburn. How was he taken in the seventh round?

20:55

Well, he refused to sign with

20:57

the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with a

20:59

falling out out with the team. He instead said,

21:01

screw you, I'm gonna go play baseball for the Kansas

21:03

City Royals. But then that didn't

21:06

stop the Raiders in the seventh round from taking him.

21:08

And what a great call that was by the what

21:11

was it by then? The Los Angeles Raiders. You

21:13

gotta check me. You never know.

21:16

They came back and forth.

21:18

I know.

21:18

So Bo Jackson, what a great seventh round

21:20

pick.

21:21

Guy that Steelers fans are familiar

21:24

with, but is not on our list because

21:26

he was not drafted by the Steelers. Kicker

21:28

Gary Anderson by the Buffalo

21:30

Bill. He's in nineteen eighty.

21:31

Two second best kicker in Steelers history.

21:33

I think he's still playing, by the way. Gary Anderson, Yeah,

21:35

he played for a long until like two thousand and four, second

21:39

best Steelers kicker.

21:40

Ever behind Ray Drilla.

21:43

Roy Drilla.

21:44

Oh, I was gonna say, Bossie, but

21:47

I'm.

21:48

I'm keeping a tangent. I'm

21:50

keeping an eye on Boswell this year. Them

21:52

bringing in Matthew right this early. That's

21:55

not necessarily just like.

21:57

We're gonna bring in an extra camp leg kind of thing.

22:00

Not to say that there's a competition. I'm just saying, like they're

22:02

wondering. You have

22:04

to wonder how long couple of last

22:07

year and with just the kickers in general, like,

22:09

you have to wonder how long he had to be prepared,

22:11

because it can get already.

22:14

Three games could go.

22:16

They weren't ready. But right before they

22:18

brought in Boswell, who was that guy, Scoby,

22:21

Josh Scoby.

22:23

He cost them that year for sure, for.

22:26

He cost them at least two games that year.

22:28

One was the Baltimore game. I

22:30

remember vividly. He missed

22:32

two field goals in regulation. I think a third

22:35

in overtime could have put

22:37

the Ravens away like three different times.

22:39

And then I think there was another game early on that

22:41

year, and then.

22:42

They brought in somebody else who

22:44

also wasn't great, and

22:47

then they brought in Boswell, and

22:49

then that's all she wrote. And

22:51

do you remember they brought in Scope because

22:53

preseason Sean Sweesm

22:56

got hurt and he was I believe

22:58

out for the year, and so they said,

23:00

well, we have to bring in somebody.

23:02

They brought in.

23:03

Scoby didn't work

23:05

out, then Boz did, and then

23:07

I guess Sean Sweeum retired

23:10

because.

23:10

I don't remember swee did retire.

23:12

He got hurt.

23:13

Do you remember Sweehen really got a bad injury or something.

23:15

I just said that.

23:16

I just said that he got hurt pre season,

23:18

and so that's why they had to bring in Scoby.

23:21

But then they brought they brought in bos. It was like, we

23:23

can't go back to swe.

23:24

He's looking up Sweerom there when you said that. Yeah,

23:27

yeah, I think that's exactly how the timeline went down.

23:30

And now it's been ever since, aside from

23:32

a few Matthew rights sprinkled in there.

23:34

Because so maybe

23:37

you know Sewn Sweetsum, you

23:39

hate to see him go down, but maybe it was the right.

23:41

It was destiny because

23:43

you got to bring in Boz. You had

23:45

to suffer with Scoby before

23:48

you can enjoy the

23:50

highs of Boz. Do you remember when Boss tried

23:52

to do that uh on side kick against Baltimore.

23:54

Did it again and when he was at Rice he did it successfully.

23:57

Well, he did not do it and

23:59

he kicks it behind his back. Yeah, he did not do

24:01

it against Balton. It's very bad.

24:03

When it doesn't work out, it looks really bad.

24:05

All right, seventh round pick for the Steelers. There's

24:09

not really many.

24:09

Guys to highlight outside.

24:11

There's one guy the top five.

24:12

Well, well there's one guy specifically.

24:14

You think that number one isn't in the top Well, yeah,

24:16

the number one guy in the Hall of Honor

24:18

for sure.

24:19

I think we might be thinking of two different people though.

24:22

Oh there's two

24:24

guys.

24:24

I think that were very clearly.

24:26

Okay, well, let's get one to Let's get to

24:29

the honorable mentions again.

24:30

Like I said, there's not really many, so I'm just gonna be like the guys that are

24:33

active right now. Corey Trice and Spencer Anderson,

24:36

Oladokain and Mark Robinson are active. Presley

24:39

Harvin in twenty twenty one is still active, but he's not a Steeler.

24:42

Tyler Mattakaevich in twenty sixteen still

24:45

active. Nick Williams twenty

24:47

thirteen pick, still active

24:49

player.

24:49

I'll tell you this, don't remember the name Nick Williams,

24:53

right, and then you know, I just don't

24:55

see any other guys that are really worthy

24:57

of an honorable mention, because if I

25:00

wanted to mention them, I would have put him in my top five.

25:02

It's a little bit thin when you get to

25:04

this point. So number

25:06

five for me and number four for

25:08

me are draft picks that were really

25:10

good NFL players. Jacob just

25:12

not s maybe a little bit

25:15

with the Steelers with one of these guys, but

25:17

not like known as

25:19

a Pittsburgh Steeler. Number five for

25:21

me is a Q Shipley. Okay, Steelers

25:23

picked him in two thousand and nine with

25:25

the seventh round pick. And I completely

25:28

understand. Aq Shipley. You know, never

25:30

played a snap for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He

25:32

never suited up in the Pittsburgh Steelers, and from they traded

25:35

him away to the Colts. But

25:37

he was a really good seventh round pick. I

25:39

mean, he started in this league from twenty twelve up to

25:41

twenty twenty. He's a local kid. So

25:43

maybe that's given me a little bit of bis and putting him

25:45

in here and again, like I'm saying, there's

25:47

just you know, I know he never played

25:49

for the Steelers technically, but he was

25:52

their draft pick. You're in the seventh round

25:54

now, things are getting a little bit thin. That's

25:56

why I put him at number five because he is a

25:59

right clearly one of the top five best

26:01

players taken in this section of the draft,

26:03

even if he didn't end up being a Steeler that much.

26:07

So that's my number five.

26:09

Then at number four, this

26:11

was one that was really really hard for

26:13

me to choose. There's two

26:16

guys that I think could be on this list.

26:18

You could have David Little, the linebacker

26:20

taken in nineteen eighty one by

26:22

the Pittsburgh Steelers, played his

26:24

entire career here nineteen eighty one

26:26

to nineteen ninety two, so very

26:29

solid starter, made one Pro Bowl

26:31

in nineteen ninety Other

26:34

than that.

26:34

Was just kind of like, you know, solid

26:37

sure.

26:37

So David Little, for sure is

26:40

somebody that I could see being

26:43

added to your list and I wouldn't push back on you.

26:45

And then the other guy going even further back

26:48

is Dick Hoke, the running back. Played

26:51

his entire career again with the Steelers nineteen sixty one

26:53

to nineteen seventy played

26:55

in that kind of forgotten era of Pittsburgh Steelers

26:58

football where they were really bad. Was

27:01

there for one year with me and Joe Green in

27:03

that transition made a Pro Bowl in nineteen sixty

27:06

eight. You picked

27:08

Dick Coke David Little. I think

27:10

either one is a solid number four choice. They played

27:12

a long time as a Steeler, made

27:14

one Pro Bowl each other than

27:17

that, there's really nothing to write home about though. But

27:19

I mean, again, for a seventh round pick, you got, Yeah, you

27:21

got David playing for ten years.

27:24

You got Dick Cokee playing for nine.

27:25

That's that's all you can That's I mean,

27:27

you get three years out of a seventh

27:29

round pick, you feel pretty good about it.

27:32

Oh even a year or

27:34

two.

27:35

Of like special out like a rookie

27:37

contract. Yeah, that's that's all

27:40

you That's all you can ask for.

27:42

All right.

27:42

Number three for me is still active

27:44

in the end.

27:45

So this is fun because I think we could

27:47

go a lot.

27:47

Of places with but go ahead,

27:49

Well, to me, it's it's Calvin Beacham

27:51

coming in at number three.

27:52

I like it because the

27:55

longevity for Dodgers

27:57

with the Steelersburg.

28:00

He spent four years with Pittsburgh, four years with Arizona,

28:02

four years or three years with the Jets, and he has

28:05

a year in Jacksonville, that's where

28:07

he went after his time in Pittsburgh.

28:10

But the fact that he is still playing

28:12

in the NFL. He's still on the Arizona Cardinals,

28:15

still signed to that team.

28:18

Again, kind of going back to what we were saying with

28:20

David Little or Dick Coke, like those

28:22

two made a probo Kevin Bach have never made a Pro Bowl.

28:25

But the fact that you were

28:27

picked in that seventh round

28:30

and have been playing for over

28:32

a decade now in the NFL and

28:35

most of that time being a starter. Wasn't a starter last

28:37

year in Arizona. But he's gonna be thirty

28:39

five years old. I mean, that

28:42

is so damn impressive. Like, sure,

28:45

you know, you get the Brock parties that is

28:47

probably playing himself into being one of the best seventh round

28:49

picks out. Yeah, for sure. And it's

28:52

impressive to see that kind of short term

28:55

explosion out of him. But it's still

28:57

just as impressive to see the sky Beacham carve out this

28:59

kind of or for him.

29:00

He's played in one hundred and sixty three games

29:03

as a seventh round pick. We just said, if

29:05

you can play a year or two as a seventh round

29:07

pick, that's solid. He's played in over one

29:09

hundred and fifty games in his career.

29:12

Truly remarkable. And then finally number

29:15

two and number one, number two you

29:17

got.

29:19

I want you to say it first.

29:21

I want you to say. I'm gonna say,

29:23

Tyler Bakevich.

29:24

No, you weren't shut up.

29:25

I wasn't.

29:27

Go ahead, I'll put Brett Keesl

29:29

at number two?

29:31

Should I put Ray Mathews?

29:34

Should I?

29:35

Should I put Ray Ray at number two?

29:37

Yeah?

29:38

Yeah, I'll do that because Keesl's

29:41

our era.

29:42

Yeah, that we know and

29:44

love.

29:45

But Ray Matthews might have been a better player

29:48

than Brett Keesel say. That's

29:50

all I'm gonna say. Both really

29:52

great players, especially for seventh

29:55

round picks. I mean, you can't

29:57

ask for more than what those guys gave you in

29:59

there careers. Ray Matthews

30:01

made it to two Pro Bowls, played

30:05

for the Steelers between

30:07

nineteen fifty one.

30:09

And that's all I gotta say. Like

30:12

Tom, like.

30:13

In nineteen sixty he played for the Cowboys

30:16

for one year, You're right, I mean, what

30:18

am I doing? Why am I going only back to the fifties

30:21

with my guy?

30:22

Like I understand, you have to preserve history.

30:24

You have to honor your past.

30:26

And Matthews probably the first

30:28

best running back in Steelers.

30:29

Is he in the Hall of Honor.

30:30

Yep, yeah, okay, oh he just got

30:32

in his past.

30:34

Year, not this past year, but recently.

30:36

Yeah.

30:36

He was in uh one

30:38

Pro Bowl for Brett Keesl in twenty ten. And

30:41

like, here's the thing.

30:42

If Keyslo super Bowl rings for Beth

30:45

if Keisa was playing in today's era

30:48

where the fans vote on the Pro Bowl,

30:50

you're.

30:50

Telling me what voting

30:53

Keyesel every damn year.

30:56

Kesill played only five games in two thousand and

30:58

two after being drafted in the seventh round, normal

31:00

for a seventh round pick. Then he missed the entire

31:02

twenty two thousand and three season due to an injured

31:05

shoulder. The fact that he was able

31:07

to rebound from just playing five games in two

31:09

years in the NFL and be

31:11

a bench piece for two thousand and four two thousand and five

31:13

before eventually starting from two thousand and six on incredibly

31:17

done.

31:17

I mean, just.

31:19

You have to be wired to be at Beach

31:22

him, to be at Keesel. There's gotta

31:24

be a different wiring because

31:26

so many people for six rounds

31:28

quoite on you. You're not good enough, we don't want you,

31:31

and you have to prove

31:34

yourself almost all over again. And they've done it successfully,

31:36

Beach, I'm still playing Kesel's Steelers

31:39

Hall of Honor, a consummate Steeler

31:41

who will forever be remembered.

31:43

So yeah, like to me, that's that's

31:45

and I understand it's harder,

31:47

Like there weren't as many people around in the fifties

31:50

that are still around today watching this team, so you

31:52

can't really say, like, oh, the people in the

31:54

fifties who were around would remember

31:56

Ray Matthews just Keyesel.

31:59

It's personality too.

32:01

It's the off, it's the once he retired

32:04

legacy that adds to it. He's still

32:06

very involved with the organization. He's

32:09

still doing things with the team. He shows

32:11

up the training camp like he

32:14

is a larger than life, larger than

32:16

just on the field production kind of guy.

32:18

And for him to do it as a seventh round pick speaks

32:21

even more volume to who he is.

32:22

Yeah, he was just at the Paling game, like right

32:24

a week ago with him and Paul Malo because they were at

32:27

Melbourne and Russell Wilson mel

32:29

Blunt's charity thing that roast

32:33

maybe I think charity roast well,

32:36

regardless they were in town, they went to famous there's still

32:39

intricral members of the Pittsburgh community.

32:42

I can't.

32:42

Yeah, I got no problem with the switch of Brett

32:44

Keesel in.

32:45

Front of him, cannot do it.

32:46

But I think Ray and Brett are clearly one and two

32:48

when it comes to Nola. For Tyler, manakeeva Cho still

32:51

playing.

32:53

Yeah, he was in Buffalo last year.

32:54

I do remember that, still a solid special teams player.

32:58

Didn't know this about joke, but.

33:00

Like Manna Kaevitch is still in a good seventh

33:02

round pick's made

33:04

that could have been like a solid honorable mansion.

33:08

Didn't know that he that Keysel going

33:10

back to him went to a junior college, snow college

33:13

before going to BUYU.

33:16

Wasn't probably very book smart. I'm just gonna assume

33:18

that happens a lot with these

33:20

players. You know, you just need to get the grades up a little

33:22

bit before you can go dominate in the NFL.

33:25

D and in D one. Yeah, he

33:27

got his way, he found his way into a D.

33:29

One squ What a great seventh round pick.

33:31

I mean, there are people out there that

33:35

maybe grew up in the eighties,

33:37

like maybe just missed on the seventies, like getting

33:39

to watch those teams that grew up

33:42

in the eighties, nineties and now have seen the two thousands

33:44

seas and there's probably some people out there that

33:46

say Brett Kezel is one of my favorite all

33:48

time steals.

33:49

Oh for sure, he's a favorite. There's no question he's

33:51

fans favorite.

33:53

And you're not just talking about like now, I'll

33:56

I'll reverse on what I was trying

33:58

to say earlier. Now I'm not try to talk

34:00

about like just guys like watching

34:03

him on the field get a sack,

34:05

Like how you mentioned that the celebration. There

34:08

are people out there that say one of my favorite players

34:10

to watch was Brett Keizel.

34:13

Well, that'll do it for us.

34:14

In our series of Pittsburgh Steelers

34:16

All Time rounds, rounds one through seven.

34:19

Also shout out to Calvin Beacham too, Like that's

34:22

just a great career for a seventh round

34:24

pick.

34:24

And it has not ended yet. It will continue into

34:27

twenty twenty four. Draft starts

34:29

on Thursday, eight o'clock. We're

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on the air at seven, not me and him, but snr's

34:34

coverages on the air at seven. You

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got Williamson, you got Lolly, you got Perzuda,

34:38

you got du Lac, you got Tom Bradley, you got

34:40

me, you got wet.

34:41

I mean everybody.

34:42

Everybody's checking in, and.

34:43

Then everyone's back on Friday and Saturday.

34:46

Friday. As long as the draft is happening,

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SNR is on the air, and I.

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Believe there's a preview show Wednesday

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Night's.

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So and then there's a no show on Monday.

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continue to preview rounds too through

35:09

seven's I'm

35:12

excited. I'm excited for this draft. Thursday

35:15

at eight o'clock in Detroit, it all kicks

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