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Ep 2:  Wheel of a Thousand Questions: Steelers Roster Post 2024 Draft

Ep 2:  Wheel of a Thousand Questions: Steelers Roster Post 2024 Draft

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Ep 2:  Wheel of a Thousand Questions: Steelers Roster Post 2024 Draft

Ep 2:  Wheel of a Thousand Questions: Steelers Roster Post 2024 Draft

Ep 2:  Wheel of a Thousand Questions: Steelers Roster Post 2024 Draft

Ep 2:  Wheel of a Thousand Questions: Steelers Roster Post 2024 Draft

Thursday, 2nd May 2024
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0:14

Decease. The Steelers standard on

0:16

Steelers Nation Radio and podcast

0:19

on Steelers dot Com.

0:22

This wheel, it feels we're in Vegas right now.

0:25

It's just so colorful and Vegas

0:28

this year. They are back

0:30

to back years now with a Vegas trip. Do

0:32

you think that the Steelers like petition the league? They're like, they

0:34

don't worry about bringing the Raiders out to Pittsburgh. They can

0:36

return though. You know what, we'll move the return trip down

0:38

a year or two or three or four. We'll just keep coming

0:40

to Vegas. Well, fine, really, it's fine. It's fine,

0:43

Roger, don't twist an arm. Trust me. It's

0:45

gonna be a home game out there for us anyway.

0:46

Are you less concerned now

0:49

with the Raiders playing

0:51

as a rotine now that they're not in

0:53

Oakland?

0:55

What do you mean like because that used to be

0:58

because that used to be the black hole out in Oakland for.

1:00

And that used to be like the trap game for the Steelers that couldn't

1:02

win in Oakland.

1:03

Well, now they got two straight wins against the Raiders.

1:06

They beat them in.

1:09

Vegas. That's not like a

1:11

home team. That's not a home fielding Vanda.

1:13

The black hole is not existing. Anymore.

1:15

Yeah, I was there last year. You couldn't

1:17

believe I was up. I was in the

1:19

upper bowl.

1:20

It's so nice, isn't it. There was beautiful.

1:22

It's just.

1:24

It's like Vegas like everything.

1:26

Yeah. Character

1:30

Anyways, there was a play

1:32

where Jimmy g got slammed and

1:35

he got hobbled, hilarious.

1:36

And I looked around.

1:38

I was like, oh, he's he might not

1:41

come back out like it was like third down. And

1:43

I looked around for a Raiders fan to ask,

1:45

because I don't know who's your backup quarterback right

1:47

now.

1:48

I couldn't find a Raiders fan. It was all

1:50

Steelers.

1:51

Hell yeah, That's how it should be out there, and that's

1:53

how it is for almost every team that goes out to play the

1:55

Raid. But I'm feeling

1:58

like, Viva Las Vegas in here with this wee. Let's

2:00

spin this wheel. Do you ever play the money wheel

2:02

by the way at the casinos? The little money Okay,

2:05

forget it? Then? All right? I mean like you want

2:07

to put a little wager on this wheel? Right now?

2:09

You know where we could go to put a

2:11

little wager on a game. We'll go to David Busters.

2:14

Now do you see that? Yeah?

2:16

I don't think we should be mixing those crowds. I don't think

2:18

we should be crowded crowd

2:21

degenerate gambling. You know what the best game

2:23

was a David Busters. You heard David Busters

2:25

like three weeks ago?

2:26

Did you realize I was there, like back

2:28

in October. I think it was great. But they didn't

2:30

have the game I loved growing up. You know

2:32

that game where you could like get a horse,

2:35

train the horse, and like race the horse.

2:38

No, I know the horse race

2:40

game where you take a gun and shoot water at a target

2:43

and the horse cross. Yeah, that's

2:45

a little simpler than one. Sorry,

2:47

I must be playing much

2:50

more game that's more of like a Kennywood

2:53

game than a David Busters game. You got a problem

2:55

with Kenny Woods anti pits?

2:57

Come on, do you hear about the guy who's suing Kenny

2:59

Wood?

3:00

Now that's anti Pittsburgh. All right, let's

3:02

spin the wheel. Let's see what our first question

3:05

is going to be. Oh, yeah,

3:08

nice spinning. I

3:10

had to.

3:13

First spin of the day.

3:14

That arm is loose? All

3:16

right? Justin fields over

3:19

under two and a half rushing touchdowns

3:21

this season.

3:21

Oh, I'm going over on that.

3:23

I wanted to be over.

3:24

I wanted wanted to be over.

3:27

Here's the thing, though, I

3:29

think if it's like first and goal, second and goal,

3:31

third and goal from the one, maybe

3:34

even from the two, Yeah, you got

3:36

a good chance for Justin Fields to come in and punch that

3:38

baby in or at least be

3:40

an option for that. Maybe it's not. Maybe

3:42

it's Justin Russell

3:44

Wilson's still really, really,

3:47

really good in the red zone. Though, Like,

3:50

I'm not necessarily sure that

3:52

the Steelers, who I do

3:54

expect to have some packages in for

3:57

Justin Fields to run and utilize him

4:01

once you get into that twenty yard line. Bucks,

4:04

I ain't so sure they're gonna be willing to take Russ

4:06

out of the game as willy nilly, especially

4:08

when the guy who would be coming into, you

4:10

know, do run

4:13

pass options and play action with the

4:15

running back and handle

4:17

the football has a lot of career

4:19

fumbles back in his days

4:22

in Chicago. So that's

4:24

the only thing I'd say about this is if

4:26

you're gonna get the rushing touchdowns from Justin Fields,

4:29

I think they're gonna be like in close vulture

4:31

kind of touchdowns. I don't see him

4:33

going and maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there'll be a couple of

4:35

these, like forty yard run that he

4:38

breaks off to the house, or you know he

4:40

comes in at the fifteen yard line and runs

4:42

it in like once they get into the red

4:44

zone. I really think Russell Wilson's probably

4:47

gonna be in ninety nine point nine percent

4:49

of the time. That being said, in

4:51

an NFL season, what do you get

4:53

like five or six opportunities to punch it in from the one

4:55

yard line in any given year. So

4:58

I do think that he will go over. I

5:00

think he's gonna be the quarterback, sneak.

5:02

Quarterback like fourth and one teams

5:05

don't do that, but I think something zoom.

5:07

I feel like he's gonna be. And I think you smart

5:10

for him.

5:10

To Besett was

5:13

when he was on the Colts,

5:15

right, Okay, Matt Ryan came out

5:18

in Matt Ryan, so they had set oh

5:20

Man, Russell Wilson.

5:21

Some would say not as old as Matt Ryan. Yes,

5:24

I think it's just smart.

5:26

Also when you look at how Russell Wilson is smaller

5:28

than Justin fields, like just Justin fields can

5:30

just fall forward and get that first down. So I

5:33

bet you that there's enough opportunities for him

5:36

to go over this two and a half rushing touchdowns,

5:38

even if it is just kind of push pushy, you

5:40

know, read option at the one yard line

5:43

type of runs. So I'm gonna go over to and

5:45

I think that again, like we said it should be over,

5:47

you should want it to be over because

5:50

we've said countless times. No,

5:53

Justin Fields is such a great talent. You

5:55

don't want to just sit him on the bench and

5:57

have him Maybe.

5:58

That's why Danny Smith was saying maybe involving

6:00

the teams.

6:01

Yeah, but you just don't want him to have to sit there for

6:03

seventeen games and not doing nothing, not

6:05

do a single thing for your offense. Because Wilson's

6:08

been healthy all year. Good. I want Wilson to be healthy

6:10

all year. But you

6:12

have two talented of a player to not utilize

6:14

in any in a capacity, especially

6:16

with their running game.

6:18

Yeah, I'm with you, and that's why I went over as well.

6:21

I think you'd be holding yourself back if you don't

6:23

get him involved in those short yard options,

6:26

especially when you're near the reds or near

6:28

the end zone, because, like you said,

6:30

Tom, I expect those

6:32

rushing touchdowns to come when they're in

6:34

scoring position, not like on

6:37

a crazy he goes in there,

6:39

not.

6:39

Like a Josh Allen playoff type of run against

6:41

the Steelers. But I almost

6:44

completely forgot it. It was a crazy run although

6:46

they didn't do it, and he they didn't seem like they

6:48

wanted to tackle him at all in that play. But you get

6:50

my drift like nothing.

6:51

It's not goods coming from the fifty yards on the top ten

6:53

Rea. But even though you saw him

6:55

doing in Chicago.

6:57

Oh yeah, he has the capability of doing

6:59

it. I just I don't. I don't know if I'm gonna bet on that because

7:01

he's gonna have so few opporatis.

7:02

I mean, as the wheel at let me see, let me

7:04

look back.

7:05

The wheel says yes, any rushing

7:07

touchdown, regardless of length. Right,

7:10

that's right, So it could be one from fifty who knows.

7:12

All right, it's beIN the wheel again. All right, here we

7:14

go, all

7:20

business on. That's been Faltanu

7:23

and Fraser.

7:24

Oh both start week one?

7:27

Neither start week one, or choose

7:29

the one that does start week one.

7:30

Well, I'll

7:33

say at the minimum, Zach Fraser.

7:35

Starting week one. I'm going both. They're both gonna

7:37

we'd love to see that. I think it's gonna happen

7:40

there has been a decree from ownership

7:42

that we need to win now.

7:44

This is this is not cutting time now

7:46

for the Steelers. There's just no

7:49

way that my may second brain can

7:51

fathom. We go through mini camp,

7:54

training camp, and we end it with Dan Moore

7:56

looking like the better tackle than Troy Faltanu

7:59

ain't gonna happen. Those two are going to

8:01

start at tackle, Fraser's going to start at center.

8:03

The offensive line will have some growing

8:06

pains for sure, but hopefully

8:08

by November, early December, January,

8:11

they really gel their

8:14

starting to acclimate themselves

8:16

to the NFL. Hopefully they don't hit that

8:19

rookie wall, which I'm risking with starting them right away

8:21

from week one. But I think they're

8:23

both gonna start.

8:23

Man.

8:24

I know that the

8:26

obvious take is to say, well, they both should start,

8:28

and we both want them to start, but I just

8:31

I'm genuinely saying I also

8:33

believe the Steelers are going to start them both.

8:36

Well, let's let's just say this to

8:39

begin with counting out any possibility

8:41

of neither starting.

8:42

That's worst case scenarious.

8:44

Fraser's a lock. I think that's worse.

8:46

That means someone's getting hurt, right, Yes,

8:48

if if neither of them start, correct,

8:50

I said, at the minimum, Fraser starts because you

8:52

have legitimately no other center

8:55

on the roster.

8:56

The only obstacle is.

8:58

Dan Moore junior.

9:00

And I want to believe you, Tom, I

9:02

want to say this team means it when

9:04

they say they want to win now and they're gonna

9:06

put the best team on the field that they have. But

9:11

I've seen them do this too many times in the

9:13

past, where they hold the better player back

9:16

and they say, we're gonna go with the other

9:18

guy that's been here, done that for

9:20

us, just to make

9:22

things easier on the transition from

9:25

college to the pros. Like, there

9:27

was no way you could

9:29

argue to me that broder Jones was less

9:31

any less than of a version of Chuuk

9:33

sikor for Dann Moore junior, there was

9:35

no way you could argue to me that

9:37

Joey Porter junior was any version

9:40

less than of a Levi Wallace and Patrick

9:42

Peters. Yeah, but

9:46

what happened. Joey

9:48

didn't get his first start until midway

9:50

through the season, and same for Broderick

9:53

Jones.

9:54

Do you think Rodier Jones a little bit earlier only

9:56

because of injury?

9:57

Do you feel like that well injury. Well,

10:00

I guess because because

10:04

of the Jukes thing. Okay,

10:07

but don't you get kind of a sense that last year, at least

10:09

in their mind, they probably felt like they were dealing from a little

10:11

bit more of strength than those positions, Like they

10:14

felt like they could get away with not

10:16

starting JPJ because

10:18

of Pat Pete and Levi Wallace.

10:19

Well, do you not feel I mean, what's changed.

10:22

It's still the same guy. It's still Dan Moore Junior.

10:24

We're not talking about an entirely different position

10:26

here, right, But they like danmore Junior, That's

10:29

what I'm saying.

10:30

So that's what I mean. So like they feel

10:32

like, Okay, I get what you're saying.

10:34

You're coming back at me there for just being so confident if

10:36

they like Dan Moore Junior so much, Yeah, I get you. I

10:38

get you. Like it's risky for me to go out there and say,

10:41

oh yeah, I'm so confident right now that they're both gonna

10:43

start. I know how much they like that guy.

10:45

I just feel like they've done it before. They did it last

10:47

year.

10:48

I saw that do it with this specific player,

10:50

Dan Moore Junior starting over Broader

10:53

Jones.

10:53

But it's and you'd

10:56

have to just assume though, that after another year

10:58

of tape and seeing Dan Moore Junior just kind of survive

11:00

out there and not really show

11:03

you anything, that your love

11:05

for him would weaken a little bit. And what

11:07

I was saying were last year it was a little bit more of a position

11:10

of strength than it is this year. Maybe

11:12

it should purely just be based on that, Like, well,

11:14

last year you were trying to give Dan more that one

11:16

more shot. I mean, it wasn't really

11:18

that one more shot, but you know what I mean, Like you were hoping that he

11:21

was going to break out. He did not. He

11:23

played every game and did it below

11:25

the line in almost every game. And

11:28

now you go into this offseason and you say, wait

11:30

a minute, this feels like deja vu again, Like

11:32

it feels like I'm talking myself into maybe Dan Moore

11:34

can break out again. We did this last year and he's not going

11:37

to. So maybe that's kind of where I'm getting

11:39

at, is where it's not as strong in

11:41

their heads as it was

11:43

last year. When when it comes down to Dan

11:45

Moore.

11:47

Maybe that week farther or

11:49

further and further away from Dan

11:51

Orgery's rookie standing

11:54

dog against Miles Garrett more we get away

11:56

from that, the clearer things started to be here.

11:58

Yeah, I would hope so, I would hope so, I

12:00

believe so.

12:02

And then Zach Fraser is just an easy Yeah, it's

12:04

not a question. There's no one else that can do it.

12:06

Like I said, it's worst case scenario if

12:08

you don't see Zach Frasier out there, because that means

12:10

one or two things. When he got hurt or

12:12

b he is way

12:15

less than of a product than you thought.

12:17

He ain't going to be the way though, he's not. This

12:19

kid's not going to forget how to play center. He's been doing it

12:21

for the past four years of his life.

12:23

I'm not even saying forgetting the play center, but maybe

12:25

the adjustment to the pro level really is a

12:28

hard one for I don't know.

12:29

You see those centers that get picked high

12:33

hit a lot in the NFL draft. That position

12:35

very intelligent and just when you're a

12:38

pure center, I just feel like that transition

12:40

to the NFL might be a little bit easier. Someone

12:42

did the math. I want to say. Last six was actually

12:44

on with us earlier this week, and he said, center's

12:46

like low key, like the easier position to

12:48

play. On the offensive line.

12:50

So I saw someone do the math before,

12:52

like leading up to last week, doing

12:55

the math of how often a player

12:57

at a certain position gets picked in

13:00

a position in the first round in the NFL

13:03

draft and how often that position

13:05

works out, And

13:08

it was like center was like had one of the highest

13:11

return rates just because you don't see

13:13

teams go after them a lot. But when they do,

13:15

it's for a sure fire

13:17

kind of guy.

13:19

Yeah, they don't risk it very much because if

13:21

you fail at center in the NFL, there's

13:23

not really an offshoot for you. You don't

13:25

really go to guard, you don't play tag like, it's pretty

13:28

much that or if you're a true center. I

13:31

think the position battle that's going to be really interesting

13:33

at that spot is the backup and training.

13:35

Right, Fraser's gonna go, yeah, the starter, and he's gonna

13:38

run with the ones from day one. But when the twos go

13:40

out there, who's gonna be snapping the football first?

13:42

Probably her big, right, probably her big But I bet you

13:44

McCormick gets a nice little little chance to

13:46

do it. I think that that is

13:49

the one to keep an eye on it. Let comes in if Fraser,

13:51

god forbid, does get.

13:52

Hurt let's think about this too.

13:54

Usually at the end of camp,

13:56

when the fifty three man roster is finalized,

13:58

what is it nine offensive lineman that usually

14:02

so let's just let's just do this really quick.

14:04

Fortanu Fraser.

14:06

Let's do the five starters for Tanu Fraser,

14:09

Broderick, James

14:13

Daniels, and Isaac Samal.

14:15

That's five, Dan

14:17

Moore Junior.

14:18

Probably, Spencer Anderson,

14:20

probably, Nate her Big, probably Mason

14:23

McCormick probably that's nine. Nine.

14:26

So who gets left off? That leaves you without guys

14:28

like Dylan Cook, who

14:31

you know came in and had some kind of signed

14:33

and and then there's guys like Kellen Ditch and

14:36

Joey Fisher and Ryan McCollums. So,

14:38

I mean, Hart, Anderson,

14:40

Hardy. I mean, it's just, you know, nobody's

14:43

that you expect to be released.

14:45

Some of them have been signed as free agents in the twenty twenty

14:47

four draft class. You

14:50

know, the big cut decision, I guess

14:52

would come down to Dylan Cook or Dan

14:56

Moore, right as far as who you want to keep

14:58

it, Dan, yeah, right, because you're keep

15:00

him or or or

15:02

if McCormick can play center,

15:05

and you like Spencer Anderson, as a swing guard.

15:08

Then all of a sudden, ate her big or Spencer Anderson.

15:10

One of those two is on the chopping block. Let's

15:12

say this, I think the starting five ye lists

15:14

that are safe. I think McCormick's pretty

15:16

safe and

15:19

and I think Dan Moore is pretty safe too, So

15:21

that would leave her big and

15:23

big book cook. I think should

15:26

really, you know, take a look

15:28

at themselves before campas I think Dan Moore deserves

15:30

to be nervous too. I'm not gonna would, I would

15:32

think, but I just I'm still buying

15:34

in a little bit to that love that the team

15:37

has from all right, let's spin the wheel again. All right, all

15:40

right, yeah, okay,

15:46

where land so exciting?

15:48

Okay, another rookie question, Roman

15:52

Wilson over two

15:54

and a half pancake blocks

15:57

this season. And let

15:59

me be clear about this because you

16:01

know, when I wrote this last night on the Wheel, it was

16:03

very late and I

16:06

didn't really know how to describe this in such a succinct

16:08

way, so I just put pancakebox. But I'm talking about

16:10

like those blocks that you go viral

16:12

on X right, and people are like, holy crap,

16:15

look at Roman Wilson. Just light this defensive

16:17

back up, I'm gonna go over. I

16:19

think he's gonna really make a name for himself

16:22

early in his NFL career with

16:25

those type of plays, you know, crashing down

16:27

on a defensive end, lighting up a

16:29

defensive back, nice

16:31

little swing pass out to George Pickens on a screen.

16:33

Get Roman Wilson out there to blow somebody up.

16:36

I have a feeling we're gonna see that a lot. Every

16:38

interview I've seen from Roman Wilson, he talks about how

16:40

much he loves blocking and how he is

16:43

part of the game. Yeah, and we've seen it. He

16:45

comes from a place that embodied that.

16:47

You said two and a half, you gonna say,

16:49

over, tell

16:51

me this guy can't get three blocks, three serious

16:54

blocks on a season.

16:56

It just seems to me like that's gonna be his

16:59

identity. Hopefully

17:01

he scores a lot of touchdowns and gets a lot of yards

17:03

too. But I think, you know, when

17:06

people look at that defining trait that separates

17:08

Roman Wilson from other wide receivers, that

17:12

could be a place

17:14

where he really jumps off the page and separates

17:17

like he might not be the best route runner.

17:19

He might not be, you know, going for fifteen

17:21

hundred yards a season. He might not be catching fifteen touchdowns

17:24

this season, but he gets you like nine hundred

17:26

yards, he catches like six touchdowns.

17:28

He never drops a pass, and he

17:31

just lights people up. I mean,

17:33

okay, I'm tip doing around it because I hate player comes,

17:35

but we're Lord just we're

17:38

tiptoeing around here close to Hines Ward.

17:40

It's exactly the guy I'm describing right now.

17:43

Yeah, So hopefully he does blossom

17:45

into at least somewhat of that potential. But

17:48

I'm excited to see and that.

17:50

That harkens back to and this or

17:52

this brings us back to the conversation we had on

17:54

our first episode of the importance of adding

17:57

another receiver, a legitimate number

17:59

two to the receiver room that allows.

18:02

Roman Wilson to do more.

18:03

Roman Wilson like things agreed

18:06

with that, Like he doesn't have to be

18:08

a number two. And maybe if

18:10

so, say there is no additional

18:12

wide receiver, say Omarkan is telling the truth

18:15

and it's Roman Wilson as your de facto

18:17

number two, and then Calvin Austen and company behind

18:20

him. Roman Wilson, I don't know if he's

18:22

able to really make those sacrifices

18:24

to his body as much because

18:26

he's gonna be asked to do different things that a

18:29

slot, a normal slot receiver of

18:31

his stature wouldn't be

18:33

doing in a normal game.

18:35

Now, the question from the wheel is about

18:37

his blocking acumen. I do

18:39

expect a lot out of receiver production

18:42

from Roman Wilson as well right

18:44

away too. I'm excited for

18:46

the type of player that he is. He seems like a

18:48

better version of what Calvin Austen was.

18:50

There's just so much that's different

18:52

about this offense this

18:56

year that I it's

18:58

gonna pay me. It pays it paid me even

19:00

before the draft, and now with additional

19:03

players via the offensive

19:05

line, Roman Wilson at.

19:07

A wide receiver.

19:08

All I'm gonna do is count down the days until

19:10

we get the training camps. We can actually

19:12

see what this new look with

19:16

a new corodinator, two new quarterbacks,

19:18

the whole. I mean, there was so

19:20

much that could be different about this

19:22

offense, and that's so worth

19:25

talking about because of how bad it's looked

19:27

the last few years.

19:30

It's kind of like when they were really bad at running

19:32

the football and we would be like, well, they can

19:34

only go up from here. Kind of the

19:36

same vibe when it comes to the offense. They were tendan last

19:38

year and the offense was a train wreck, so well,

19:41

they can only go up from there.

19:42

The only thing that was working well was

19:44

the run game, and that only happened,

19:49

and that only happened because they finally woke

19:52

up and said, Okay, yes we should have Roder

19:54

Jones starting because he's a legitimate offensive

19:56

lineman, and all those.

19:57

Lines like Faltano and Frasier are just even

19:59

better. Exactly, it is like they're running. They're

20:01

running, and now you.

20:02

Don't have to rely on just Okay, well,

20:05

if Roger Jones is out there, we'll do better. But

20:07

if he's not, then we're gonna craft

20:09

the bed. And if I just see Mubble's not

20:11

out there either, then it's really gonna be bad.

20:14

I am excited to see what Roman Wilson

20:16

can do from the slot as a receiver

20:18

too, because I think there's a lot of speed there and

20:21

I think that see

20:24

when I hear from people like Matt

20:26

and Dale that he's not the best at breaking

20:28

tackles, that makes it seems like you're

20:31

gonna need a quarterback that can get the ball out to him

20:33

on time in strides catch

20:35

it and go ye and use his

20:37

speed to get away from people. That

20:39

was a huge weakness from Kenny Pickett last year.

20:42

Accurate, don't expected to be a weakness from Russell

20:44

Wilson this year, expecting you know those you

20:46

remember that play against I think it was Tennessee George

20:48

Pickens is coming across the screen and

20:50

just threw it behind him and he couldn't adjust his body to catch

20:52

it. If he puts it in front of him, he might be scoring a

20:54

touchdown. And Wilson will

20:56

see a lot of those moments with guys like Roman

20:59

Wilson this year. Or if he just leads him right

21:01

into it, he's gonna take this ten yard

21:03

pass thirty more yards down the field.

21:06

Yep, all right, it's been.

21:08

The wheel one more time, one more

21:10

time, more time, a

21:17

big span, the last

21:19

one, apparently the last one.

21:22

Will we see Cam Hayward renegotiate

21:25

his contract. I'm gonna lean No.

21:27

I don't think it's gonna happen either. High contract

21:30

renegotiation already happened. Don't you think that

21:32

that's something that they would do? Bang bang, like just

21:34

knock him out, Like all right, alex Is don Cam, can

21:36

you step into my office now and then you

21:38

know, kind of get that ultimate cap space

21:41

together to play with at one

21:43

moment, like unless there's a hang

21:45

up between the negotiations of it. Like,

21:47

I just don't see why one restructure

21:50

would happen, especially

21:52

when I think front offices have like timelines.

21:55

Especially when now we're done with draft.

21:56

Eval so now we're gonna do restructures before

21:58

the draft actually starts. And you know what I'm saying, Like

22:01

there's a real like system.

22:02

Here, especially when Alex Heismith

22:04

is the younger player probably

22:07

right now, more deserving of that money than Cam.

22:09

Made less in his career, right, Yeah,

22:11

a great point. No, I

22:15

don't think it's coming either. I think that he's just

22:17

going to play under the contract that he has. I

22:20

can't blame him for that, Like, look.

22:22

Yeah, it's just something that we've discussed for so long.

22:26

It's just so weird to have these takes as people

22:28

like you and I lay people

22:30

if you will muggle lay because

22:33

someone comes to us right now and they're like, hey, we're cutting your salary

22:36

in half, We're going

22:38

to restructure your deal. It's like that'll kill

22:40

us, Like that is just that completely ruins

22:42

our life. But then we expect

22:44

to go to athletes and be like, yeah, but you're super

22:47

rich, so just put money on the table and leave

22:49

it like you don't need that money anymore.

22:51

Like you wouldn't have that mindset if we

22:53

were in their shoes. You want to make what you were originally

22:55

agreed to make. So it's

22:58

tough for you know, us to city and be like, I'll

23:00

leave money on the table, come on, do what's best for the team.

23:03

But at the same time, this

23:06

is a business in the NFL, and that is

23:08

part of the business side

23:10

of things, is that when you aren't

23:13

performing up to the contract that we gave

23:15

you in this league, in this line of

23:17

work, we have a right to try to reach

23:19

a new deal with you. We have a right to renegotiate.

23:22

And this would never happen to cam So please

23:24

don't misconstrue. And I'm about the SAM just using

23:26

this as kind of a general example. If

23:29

you can't come to an agreement with us, and if we can't amblicably

23:32

meet in the middle, then you're cut

23:34

like that. Yeah, I know.

23:36

Mark Matten I was listening the other afternoon

23:38

and said when he

23:41

was talking about this, he had said, I know what

23:43

I would do in this situation is exactly what

23:45

you just lined up.

23:46

Yeah, but it would be too knee jerk in this situation because

23:48

you can't cut Cam, there'd be what would you do on

23:50

the defensive line? Right exactly? No,

23:52

I know I'm not saying I would do this. I'm not

23:54

saying I like he said when he Mark's

23:56

saying, like, you know what I would do? Like,

23:59

yeah, I get what you're trying to From a business

24:01

standpoint, that example would be a ruthless,

24:03

you know, runner, a CEO.

24:04

If you writ I think that's what he was saying, is that the Steelers

24:06

would never do The Steelers want to look like

24:08

the good guys. They don't want to

24:11

look like the bad guys that cut like.

24:14

One must clean a house of Twitter and then all of a sudden the app

24:16

doesn't run right. It's like, oh crap, we actually kind of

24:18

needed those players, like you kind of needed those one

24:21

hundred percent. You need Cam Hayward, Yeah, you need them

24:23

so and and hey, if

24:25

i'm his camp, I know that. So

24:28

why am I renegotiating? Right? Yeah?

24:32

And you know I could say cap

24:35

hit this year though, I could say this though

24:37

I love Cam Hayward and I

24:40

don't know if I expect the Steelers to win the super

24:42

Bowl this year. I mean,

24:44

you just have to be pretty honest with yourself.

24:47

You have to be a pretty big Homer to think super

24:49

Bowl or bust for the Steelers in twenty

24:51

twenty four, twenty twenty five. But

24:55

and I would and I would hate to see Cam Hayward

24:58

retire a Steeler without a ring. But

25:01

this is We've been saying this for a while.

25:04

Is this Cam Hayward's last year? Is this Cam Hayward's

25:06

last year? Like this might be it? So in

25:09

the future, maybe looking to next year, maybe

25:11

you you'll get that additional

25:13

CAF space if he retires.

25:15

Well, he's a free agent next year, he's U a FA. So

25:18

that's why I think you have a very nice angle

25:20

to restructure, to sign him to an extension,

25:22

take some of the cap hit away from this season,

25:25

and really help the team out now while letting

25:28

Cam Hayward kind of ride it out as a Steeler.

25:31

That being said, maybe the two

25:33

sides into something. We don't kind of what you were

25:35

speculating there that this might be

25:37

the last ride. So what's the point of renegotiating

25:39

that contract? All right, Well, go

25:42

back in the closet. Very successful round by

25:45

you off in a little bit, and let's go.

25:47

Let's not give it like a toy story two.

25:50

Like it's in the toy chest now, like the speaky

25:52

penguin that.

25:53

Look yeah, on the shelf, that's completely forgotten

25:55

about.

25:55

We'll never forget about the wheel, but I am putting it

25:57

back in the closet. All right. Let's

26:00

look at the gabbronis around the division. We didn't really

26:02

talk about that when we recapped

26:04

the draft. So let's see what those three teams were

26:06

up to. And you know, I've heard some people

26:08

say the Steelers are a pretty

26:11

good contender now for knocking off the Ravens.

26:13

Do you see what Meda Kimes said yesterday?

26:15

I saw what Mena Kimes said. We'll talk about all that stuff.

26:17

Are they really contenders for this

26:19

AFC North division that's on

26:21

the way next on the Steeler standard

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