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Ep 2:  Ranking the Best Second Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

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Ep 2:  Ranking the Best Second Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Ep 2:  Ranking the Best Second Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Ep 2:  Ranking the Best Second Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Thursday, 11th April 2024
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This is the Steelers standard.

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On Steelers Nation Radio and podcast

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on Steelers dot com.

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We are about to deliver you are top

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five second round picks ever by the Pittsburgh

0:20

Steelers, and then of course shine a light on all

0:22

of the great second round picks that the Steelers have had.

0:25

You can really field a team of

0:28

all time greats for a lot of franchises with just

0:30

the second round picks that the Pittsburgh

0:32

Steelers have made in their franchise history. I

0:35

mean, there's five Hall of Famers, it's insane

0:37

that were picked in the second round by your Pittsburgh

0:39

Steelers.

0:40

If you look at the first round, there were nine,

0:44

uh yeah, it's four famer.

0:46

One of them was Lyne Dawson's not really the Steelers,

0:48

and then one other was like nineteen

0:51

thirty.

0:51

Let's count it though.

0:52

So that's fourteen drafted Hall of Famers

0:54

in the first two rounds for your Pittsburgh

0:56

Steelers in their history.

0:58

But before we get there, some news from the AFC

1:00

North.

1:00

Nick Chubb and his

1:03

uncertain future has prompted the

1:05

Cleveland Browns to negotiate in adjusted

1:07

contract with their running back. The

1:10

reworked deal has lowered his base

1:12

salary to of eleven

1:14

point seventy five million dollars with

1:17

a chance to earn it back

1:19

the incentives. NFL

1:21

networking insider Ian

1:24

rap Report was the first to have this. You

1:26

know, Chubb suffered that knee injury last year

1:28

to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and

1:30

he's twenty eight years old, so there obviously

1:33

is some question about what

1:35

his ability is going to be once he bounces back from

1:37

this injury, and the cost

1:39

of Nick Chubb was more geared

1:42

towards a healthy Nick Chubb, not one that

1:44

is clouded with this potential injury problem.

1:47

So good on Chubb for

1:52

agreeing to this reworked deal.

1:54

And the thing I like about it, and

1:58

I know Steelers fans this is going to be you feel queasy.

2:01

The thing I respect about it respect

2:04

for a Browns player, Jeez, he

2:08

and the team the Browns

2:10

allows him to earn all of that money

2:12

back that he reworked through incentives. So

2:16

if he doesn't come back the same

2:19

because of this knee injury,

2:21

then the.

2:21

Money makes sense for the

2:23

Browns to pay him.

2:25

If he comes back and he's Nick Chubb again, then

2:28

they're still going to pay him what he's worth because he'll

2:30

earn that through the incentives that he has, So

2:32

you're betting on himself. The Browns are

2:35

allowing him to get that money back.

2:37

But there's a nice contingency in place

2:39

just in case he's not ever the same person.

2:42

Which is possible.

2:43

I think it's likely after a knee

2:45

injury like that at age twenty eight going on twenty nine.

2:48

He's a really tough nose tough

2:51

it's sure, it's a it's

2:53

a tough style to duplicate after an

2:55

injury like that. So, but

2:58

that doesn't mean that I don't think Nicki going to be a gret running

3:01

back next year. Like I still think he could

3:03

be a top ten yeah.

3:04

For sure if if he can come back.

3:06

There's no doubt. He's been as consistent

3:08

just as any guys.

3:09

Just don't know if.

3:10

He's going to be like you know, Fringe, Derrick

3:12

Henry, Christian McCaffrey good, like he has been

3:14

when healthy.

3:15

First like maybe you see him drop from top

3:17

five to like top ten, top twelve.

3:21

Which in six seasons he's haid six and

3:24

eleven yards and forty eight rushing touchdowns

3:26

and he's played in twelve or more games every year except

3:28

for last season. So, like I say,

3:31

consistent, Yeah, he's he's one of the

3:33

best running backs of this generation, of

3:35

this era.

3:36

Yeah, it is a shame that he went down

3:38

like that because this this is a potentially

3:42

career altering injury.

3:43

Yeah.

3:44

Yeah, So that brings me to Cam

3:46

Hayward. Now, now he didn't get injured

3:48

last year, but he did. But

3:50

yeah, he didn't end his season. He was able to finish

3:53

the season healthy, played in the playoff game against the Bills.

3:55

Well, healthy might be playing

3:57

it a little fast and loose, he was probably playing.

4:01

But the effectiveness of

4:03

Cam, whether that be because of the lingering

4:06

aspect of the injury that he suffered early in the

4:08

season, or whether it just be due

4:10

to his age. He

4:13

also is getting paid an amount and

4:15

taking a cap hit on that isn't

4:18

commasurate with what the Steelers should

4:20

be paying him for what he can give them. Now,

4:23

I think a reworking of the

4:25

contract is inevitable.

4:29

I mean, sixteen million dollar base salary

4:31

due to Cam with a twenty two million.

4:33

Dollar cap hit.

4:35

I'm sorry, but it's just not worth that

4:38

much. You

4:40

want Cam to be here next year. You certainly

4:42

don't want to move on from him be

4:44

too big of a hole to fill. He's still an effective

4:47

player, just not that effective

4:49

for that price.

4:51

Yeah, it's tough.

4:52

It's surprising to me though, that we're two weeks

4:54

away from the draft and a rework

4:57

is still not done or

4:59

even seems to at least

5:01

publicly, you know, being acknowledged

5:04

that it's being pursued.

5:08

I don't think it needs to be public.

5:10

Maybe maybe it doesn't have to be, but I tip

5:14

their hand it doesn't have to be. But I'm

5:16

just saying, you know, there's no there's no.

5:18

Noise at all towards it happening, and

5:20

it won I wonder if it is or not, and I

5:22

think it should. I think it would be the right move. Obviously,

5:26

it's a two way street. Cam Heyward has to agree to

5:28

it. I don't see why he wouldn't

5:30

though.

5:31

No, I don't see why I wouldn't.

5:33

But like not everything Cam does is also

5:35

like flash right, Like Cam's

5:37

not a flashy guy.

5:40

So what do you mean?

5:41

Like you? So, I don't think like just because we're not hearing

5:43

it that it doesn't mean that it's not happening.

5:45

Like Deontay Jonathan, there's no even

5:47

lash to.

5:48

A restructured contractor I'm just saying, like there's no

5:50

even reports of like, hey, the Steelers are thinking

5:52

about doing this, or hey the Steelers

5:54

are talking to the agent.

5:56

Like like you hear that from

5:59

time to time. Just these beat reporters

6:01

have to do their job. Three sixty five.

6:02

What how

6:06

important is it to you that this deal gets done

6:08

before the draft?

6:09

Not that important. I just think it's important that it gets

6:12

done before camp starts. Yeah, I

6:14

think it's curious that it's not happened yet.

6:17

Maybe that's just me.

6:19

I think maybe they're saying that this isn't a

6:21

leyre in draft mode.

6:23

I think is what's happening.

6:27

Perhaps perhaps you're right. We'll

6:29

see.

6:29

Time will tell TWT As

6:31

the kids like to say, all right, let's take

6:33

a look at these second round picks all time

6:35

by the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like I said, there's

6:37

five Hall of famers on this

6:39

list.

6:41

We'll give you our top five in

6:43

a.

6:43

Second, but just to give you the Hall of Famers, you've got

6:45

Ernie Stoutner, who also is

6:47

one of.

6:48

Three retired numbers for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

6:50

John Henry Johnson picked just a

6:52

couple of years after Henry Stautner as a fullback

6:55

mate to the Hall of Fame.

6:56

And then of

6:58

course the other you know

7:01

very well, Jack Ham, Jack.

7:03

Lambert and Dermaldi Dawson,

7:05

aall Hall of famers coming from

7:07

that second Pittsburgh Steelers,

7:10

and Jack cam and Jack Lambert not

7:13

just Hall of famers but arguably some

7:15

of the.

7:15

Best at their specific

7:18

positions too.

7:19

And Lambert being a part of that iconic

7:22

nineteen seventy four draft class. Ham,

7:26

i'd say people are saying, is what people say

7:28

all the time, is the best draft class of all time.

7:30

Ham can be argued as the best outside linebacker

7:32

ever, but it's just such a different outside

7:35

linebacker than the modern

7:37

day.

7:38

He was a coverage guy.

7:40

He had a ton of interceptions for a linebacker,

7:44

but certainly his versatility has

7:46

him in that goat conversation. I

7:48

mean, Joe Green when we talked about the first round yesterday,

7:50

is the goat defensive tackle. It

7:53

can very easily make that argument. And

7:55

then Jack Lambert, you know, as far as that interior

7:58

linebacker is concerned, one

8:00

of the more iconic ones for sure, but

8:04

I think there's some guys that you would say has probably pasted

8:06

him as far as the

8:08

goat conversation is and unfortunately

8:11

you hate to say it, but

8:14

the one that's coming top

8:16

of mind played for your trival

8:18

and is their marquee players?

8:21

Is there me and Joe Green in ray Lewis

8:23

and ray Lewis.

8:26

But still it's incredible that like with

8:28

Ham and with Joe Green, like

8:32

there's two players that to this day I can really

8:34

put forward to strong argument that they are the goats

8:37

at their position.

8:38

Yeah, it's you're right,

8:41

bys A.

8:42

Maybe the outside linebacker was the same

8:44

position, but Ham played it so differently.

8:48

Is it maybe a different way of saying that.

8:51

I mean, Lambert is a true inside guy.

8:53

But.

8:55

God, they're they're just both so good

8:58

and to be on the same team and the

9:00

same essentially the same position is insane.

9:03

Well, I guess you could say the outside linebacker

9:06

is different now compared to what it was is because

9:08

those guys are really playing, like you said, in

9:10

the second level, compared to outside

9:12

linebackers.

9:12

Now we're just called edge rushers.

9:15

Yeah, exactly.

9:17

All right, let's give some like notable

9:20

names here from there's a lot before

9:23

we really drill into the guys that

9:25

we think deserve five through one rankings.

9:28

Obviously, we mentioned the Hall of famers Jermini

9:30

Dawson, Jack ham, John, Henry Johnson, Jack

9:33

Lambert, and Ernie Stottner.

9:35

Five of them just so impressive.

9:39

Terry Hanerdy nineteen sixty nine second round

9:41

pick, backup quarterback for some

9:43

of those Super Bowl teams for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

9:46

Okay, as you work

9:48

through the you

9:50

got Carnell Lake in nineteen eighty nine,

9:53

could definitely crack our top five.

9:55

I don't think that would be a surprise.

9:57

Nineteen ninety two Levon Kirkland All

10:00

Pro Team and two Pro Bowls. Chad

10:02

Brown in nineteen ninety three, hell

10:04

of a second round pick, made two All

10:06

Pro teams for the Steelers. About

10:08

nineteen ninety five second round pick Cordell

10:10

Stewart slash

10:13

the third best quarterback in Steeler's history.

10:15

As we as a week

10:18

or two we've gotten we we went, we

10:20

went and did.

10:20

The research, and that's the conclusion.

10:22

We gave Cordell Stewart the third best quarterback

10:25

ever taken in nineteen ninety five

10:27

in that second round. Uh,

10:30

then you've got Marvel Smith

10:32

in two thousand, Kendro Bell in two thousand

10:35

and one, Antoine Randall l

10:37

in two thousand and two. That's a hell of a pick.

10:40

Brian McFadden, Ricardo Cokeley, Coley,

10:45

remember Cokeley. Yeah, now we're starting to get into our

10:47

era. Yeah, Bran Great.

10:49

McFadden's defining moment was that two thousand

10:51

and five Divisional round game against

10:53

the Colts. Once the Colts got the ball back

10:56

after the fumble Manning

10:58

Peyton Manning, I think I'm back to back plays

11:00

targeted Reggie Wayne in the corner

11:03

of the end zone, and McFadden was a

11:05

rookie, broke the playoff at

11:07

least once, if not on back to back plays

11:10

end zone targets.

11:11

Crazy as a rookie.

11:13

To do that against Peyton Manning and Reggie

11:15

Wayne insane.

11:17

Yeah, great return on that second round pick, almost

11:19

immediately never made an All Pro orp Pro Bowl, but certainly

11:22

remember the second round pick in a great podcast

11:24

host now too. Yeah, Lamar wouldleag twenty

11:27

seven. What a great second round

11:29

pick. I had his jersey fifty

11:31

six.

11:32

You always brag about that jersey because everyone always

11:34

has the sevens, the forty three,

11:36

and.

11:36

Especially on those teams ninety two and forty three.

11:39

Yea, So I felt like fifty six was kind of sneaking in the

11:41

back door there, although he was just as

11:43

freaking good, like what fifteen sixteen

11:45

sacks?

11:46

Yeah, him and James Harrison

11:48

that year that DBO

11:50

one DPOI I think

11:52

he had like seventeen sacks that season,

11:55

but Lamar was pretty close behind.

11:57

And then one year later in two thousand and eight, line

11:59

of lead taking the.

12:00

Second could be put

12:03

up there as one of the all time worst ones.

12:05

But not a first round pick, so not but

12:08

as far as the second round, do you remember who was taking in the first round

12:11

that year? No,

12:13

don't sheat

12:14

uh.

12:17

Another offensive team? Yeah,

12:19

how about that?

12:20

Actually I did cheat, but I also did

12:22

see that recently that those were the one two picks

12:24

in two thousand and eight. Wamph Menden

12:27

Hall did okay for a couple of years, and men in Hall got

12:29

but I never forget.

12:30

Do you remember when ray Lew was like his

12:33

sure on his shoulder, Yeah, it's

12:35

right in the middle, so and.

12:39

Like miked up version of that, or I don't even know if he was miked

12:41

up, but you could just hear like the crack.

12:43

Mendy wasn't even playing like.

12:46

I broke his shoulder, Like I just broke this

12:48

dude' shoulder.

12:49

Feel bad for Mendy didn't play it all the Super Bowl

12:51

year and.

12:51

Then was lost because

12:54

of what you just said there. Yeah, uh

12:56

so after lying a swede. Jason

12:58

Worlds was picked in twenty two.

13:00

He was a lot, but then retired very

13:02

early.

13:02

It's never really had it health wise.

13:04

I mean again the early retirement. Yeah, I think

13:06

four years, five years. I think he would have eventually.

13:09

Yeah, Jason Worlds guy, Yeah,

13:11

like.

13:11

A ten sack maybe kind of guy. Yeah.

13:14

Marcus Gilbert not a bad second round

13:17

pick at all. Mike Adams pretty

13:19

good, bad second round pick in twenty twelve, then

13:21

Lev Bell and twenty thirteen, great second round

13:23

pick, A two time All Pro at

13:26

one point could have been argued as the best

13:28

running back in the NFL. Steph two

13:31

a at twenty fourteen. So twenty thirteen, twenty

13:33

fourteen, bang bang two first

13:35

round caliber. I could

13:37

argue top ten caliber players that

13:40

you snuck away with in the second round.

13:43

For sure, and I think would debates.

13:46

The people outside of outside of

13:48

Pittsburgh would debate Seth, but people

13:50

who.

13:50

But I know him every week. He was to.

13:55

San Quez Golsen in twenty fifteen is swinging to

13:57

miss on a corner, there Sean Davis and swinger

14:00

to miss some of the defensive back. Then you

14:02

get Juju bad not a bad

14:04

one. Then you get James Washington in twenty eighteen.

14:06

Just never worked out for him here, I

14:08

like James wasathingon Chase

14:10

Claypool in twenty twenty.

14:13

We never mentioned this on the show. Did

14:15

you see that Chase Claypool. The

14:17

CFL Saskatchewan rough

14:19

Riders have claimed his rights, so if

14:22

he does not get signed by an NFL.

14:23

Team, he has to say he and he.

14:25

Wants to play in the CFL. Then Saskatchewan

14:27

has the first right.

14:28

Okay, that's fine, but

14:31

did he just get a visit with.

14:34

That's great he visited, But I'm just saying, Jacob,

14:36

this man had double digit touchdowns his rookie

14:38

seas insane, and now he is getting

14:40

offer sheets from the CFL.

14:43

That falloff is unbelievable.

14:45

And will forever have the clip on the Brandon Marshall podcast

14:47

when he was like, I'm a top three wide receiver in the NFL.

14:50

And then do you remember when he was like doing his like video

14:53

game stream like

14:55

after that Brown's loss or something

14:58

or another. The bad

15:00

performance by the Steelers, and it wasn't

15:02

a great showing by him, and he

15:04

was just like, yeah, I mean I don't care.

15:06

I'm still really good. It's like, are you

15:09

are you sure about that?

15:11

No?

15:11

He just got he just I

15:14

forget where this

15:18

is? Oh Seattle.

15:20

I think he planned a visit to Seattle

15:23

and might sign with the Seahawks.

15:25

And I guess if he doesn't, he'll

15:27

go.

15:27

To saskatchetoan Saskatchewan sasketcha

15:30

sasketchetune. That was

15:32

ignorant of you to

15:34

say that, what is this gotch a tune like the like

15:36

a, I think you're thinking of

15:39

Saskatoon. Maybe You're

15:41

Canadian ignorance is.

15:42

Showing, all right.

15:43

Pat Freiemerth was taking in twenty twenty one in

15:46

the second round TBD on

15:48

that one.

15:49

Still like still TBD, I still like it, Still like it.

15:51

George Pickens, We're getting into the TBD category

15:54

now.

15:54

But these are too young, That's why.

15:55

And then I really like last year's two second round

15:57

picks, County Bet and Joey Portery.

15:59

Pat Pickens Benton Joey.

16:03

Could be a nice four year run,

16:05

four player run, three year run, four

16:07

player run. On second round

16:09

picks all right, let's melt these guys

16:11

into their top five.

16:12

Now.

16:13

I think you gotta go with the Hall of Famers,

16:15

except I'm gonna leave John Henry Johnson off

16:18

just because I don't want to put all these

16:20

like default Hall of famers on it. I

16:22

want to have at least some fun. I want to have some debate here

16:25

on the number five spot. And

16:27

the reason why we go Ernie Stottner

16:29

instead of j H J is

16:33

because people can still wear j H Jay's

16:35

jersey number.

16:36

They can't do that for Ernie Stottner.

16:39

So that's the tiebreaker. I

16:41

put Lambert probably at one, right.

16:43

Yeah, maybe Ham was a better overall player

16:46

when you really think about it, But come

16:48

on, Lambert's the Steelers. That's illustrated

16:50

cover or Ham to Ham two.

16:53

It's the Jackson one two for sure, it's

16:56

that sports illustrated cover.

16:57

It's yeah, teeth all messed up.

16:59

Its teeth just got there.

17:01

He me and Joe Green was

17:03

the was the Steelers.

17:05

But Jack Lambert like the poster boy.

17:07

You could say, oh he was just he

17:10

embodied what it really meant to be a

17:13

pittsburgher. It looked like it looked

17:15

like he was working in the steel Mill and then would just

17:17

clock out and come.

17:18

Yeah, that's what people loved that. They felt

17:20

Pittsburgh yan.

17:23

All right, so those two are are one two, you.

17:25

Put in Dermoni three. I feel like you have.

17:27

To Maybe you should

17:30

default of Stoutner though, just because he's got the jersey

17:32

number retired.

17:33

Yeah, but.

17:35

Dermani Dawson, Ernie

17:38

Stoutner made one All Pro team, nine Pro Bowls, but

17:40

it was a big deal to make the Pro Bowl back in those days,

17:42

so nine of them was a huge thing.

17:45

Dermani Dawson was a.

17:46

Sixteam All Pro. Yeah,

17:48

I'm going to Demonti at three. I

17:51

think it was better than than Stautner. But Stutner

17:53

was a great player. So Stautner comes

17:55

in at number four obviously. So you got the two jacks.

17:57

You got Ham and Lambert in whatever

17:59

order you want. But we go Lambert first.

18:01

Than Ham, then Dawson and Stautner.

18:04

You know, it's funny, It's like you debate one two the

18:06

order, but you know who one two is. Then you debate the

18:08

order three four, but you know who three four is. Number

18:11

five is where it gets a little bit. Yeah, I wonder

18:14

I think we could have different ones, and

18:16

I think that's okay.

18:18

I'm gonna tell you some guys that just missed for me. I

18:22

think, you know, this

18:24

might just be me.

18:27

Thinking that he's kind

18:30

of playing that what if game with him, but Steph two it. I'm

18:32

tempted to put him there, but he just didn't play long

18:35

enough. I didn't see these guys

18:37

as much because I was.

18:39

A wee baby, the widow baby

18:41

it's widow Andy Away, both.

18:46

Of those two monsters, but just

18:48

never really part of my you know, stee it. But

18:50

I'd still just based on the

18:53

ability to go back and look at things historically,

18:56

I'd put them in front of Steph to it for sure

18:58

on my list. Carnell, Yeah, great,

19:01

safety, gotta think about putting safety, safety

19:04

and corner.

19:07

But I think I'm gonna put at number five.

19:09

Uh no, flash, you go flash here.

19:12

His name is Slash. First of all, I said

19:14

you should flash, should flash.

19:17

Good Lord, you're bad. It's

19:20

okay, I forgive you. Slash

19:23

is not on.

19:23

My top is my Wow.

19:25

I'm gonna go love Bell. I'm gonna

19:27

put level on Bell.

19:29

I think maybe the Bob Labriol will slapped me in

19:31

the face for putting him in front of people like Cornell

19:33

Ake and Levon Kirkland and Chad Brown.

19:35

But I'm gonna go Leve.

19:37

Bell Rocky eggsit aside.

19:40

I think those relations

19:42

are getting smoothed over a bit here. I

19:45

think, quite honestly, love Bell desperately,

19:48

desperately, desperately wants to get that Hall

19:50

of Honor Bomp wants to get that Hall of Honor recognition.

19:52

So he's starting to try to play as nice as he can with

19:54

the Steelers all this time, all

19:57

this time about I come back. It's for one team,

19:59

almost dealer. I regret not signing

20:02

there back in the day. Blah bah bah blah

20:04

blah.

20:06

I think that relationship is getting smoothed over

20:08

there.

20:08

I don't think it is.

20:09

You don't know.

20:11

He's been to the facility. They've invited him back to

20:13

the facility. He's he's hung around. I

20:16

think they're I think they're cool. What

20:19

is there really to be upset with him

20:21

about other than money

20:23

and the negotiation side of

20:25

things?

20:26

Like he was always a nice guy.

20:28

I heard that.

20:29

You know, he was almost too nice as far as an interview

20:31

was concerned, because he'd tell you exactly what you wanted to hear,

20:33

Like people would say they'd ask him one question and he'd

20:35

answer it one way, and then another reporter would ask him

20:37

a different question that would demand a different, different

20:40

answer, but would be counter to what his previous

20:42

answer was, and he would give that counter answer.

20:46

Like it's not like an Antonio Brown level meltdown

20:48

when he left.

20:49

It was.

20:49

It was really strictly just business

20:52

handled very poorly. But strictly

20:54

just business handled poorly. I'm gonna

20:56

put let Bell at number five here. I

21:00

say all the time that you know, just based

21:02

on me watching since

21:04

nineteen ninety nine two thousand when I

21:06

came online, I've

21:09

never seen a running back like Bell. I've never seen

21:11

someone with that kind of style, with that

21:13

kind of grace when he was running with the football.

21:16

It was like a ballet watching him in

21:18

the back.

21:18

But only five years playing with the

21:21

team.

21:22

And then you're teasing us

21:25

for the entirety of what would have been your six

21:28

saying, oh, I could come back at the end

21:30

of the first month of the season. Oh, you know what,

21:33

I'll come back after the byeway halfway through, you

21:35

know what, I'll come back after Thanksgiving, Like,

21:37

okay, I'll come back at the end of the year.

21:39

If you guys make a playoff push.

21:41

See you're still bitter, and it's okay. You can still

21:43

be bitter.

21:44

We're still within like the statute of limitations.

21:46

I'm

21:48

a bigger man than you. I can I'm

21:51

more mature than you are. I can move past these

21:53

things faster. I will let you have

21:55

the time that you need. Though I understand it still

21:57

hurts. It's not fresh, but the wound

22:00

is still not

22:02

fully healed.

22:03

But I just have a hard time

22:05

putting anybody else at number five when I think

22:07

about just how dominant he was and

22:10

how incredible

22:12

the style that he played that

22:14

position was.

22:15

So My friends and I have this ongoing

22:18

joke in our group when

22:21

Lev first left, this is like

22:23

in the peak of like Lev had been with the Jets

22:25

for like two years now, and Ab had

22:27

won his Super Bowl with the

22:29

Buccaneers.

22:30

At this point, we have a running joke.

22:32

We took a poll, an anonymous

22:34

poll, who's the worst person

22:37

worse worst person between

22:40

Ab and Levey on Bell and of

22:42

like the twelve guys in this group text

22:45

eleven voted Lev, or

22:47

eleven voted Ab.

22:48

One voted Lev. And

22:53

it was an anonymous.

22:54

Pole and no one or the one

22:56

person who voted lev has

22:58

yet to confess to it because

23:01

it's so ridiculous, and we have

23:03

like a running joke of like anytime an

23:05

argument gets heated, it just falters

23:07

back to who voted for live because

23:10

it's just such a ridiculous thing to say. I

23:14

would have been the one who voted for eleven your group two,

23:16

the worst person between

23:18

eleven and Antonio Brown, just

23:20

to mess with you guys. Yeah, okay, all

23:22

right, who's your five? You think love's good?

23:24

Or are you gonna go?

23:25

Maybe you know who else? I didn't mention it in my guys,

23:27

that just made it or La Yeah,

23:29

Lamar is right there too.

23:31

I might say Lamar because

23:33

what.

23:33

About Antoine Randul?

23:34

Just for throwing the past the That's

23:38

what I mean, and he

23:40

he threw the.

23:41

Past day Hines Ward.

23:43

That's a great call by Al Michaels too.

23:46

I think as he saw that

23:49

as Antoine was coming back on the end

23:51

around and Hines was running towards the end zone,

23:53

he says, as the ball is in mid Air's like

23:56

he played quarterback in college

23:58

and now he's on touch showing in the

24:00

Super Bowl.

24:01

Ow, Michaels is so good. You

24:05

have to choose before.

24:06

We end the I'm gonna go Randol

24:09

for what he did for this team.

24:10

You still hate on Bell.

24:12

Also, a Randol caught

24:14

a I believe it was either a touchdown

24:16

or a two point conversion in Super Bowl forty five

24:19

when he came back with the team. Do you remember that he

24:21

like left for a couple of years and then came back.

24:24

But just to be clear, you're not going with randowill going with a

24:26

Michigan man.

24:26

And I.

24:29

But a Michigan man. Yeah, And Lamar

24:31

is great. Yeah, Lamar was great. Lamar

24:34

was great. And that not the longest career,

24:36

but for four years he was great.

24:38

No, a little bit longer than that. He played until

24:40

like the end of like the Lebaux era.

24:42

I want to say, eleven and a half, sex and eight, nine,

24:45

thirteen and a half, ten and ten, nine

24:47

and eleven and then four and twelve,

24:50

five and thirteen.

24:51

You start to dip, but still play.

24:53

With in twenty

24:55

eleven when he had nine sacks, he played ten

24:57

games, come on, and then he got hurt and

24:59

then I think that's when kind of was that twenty ten

25:01

or eleven two eleven was when he got

25:04

hurt.

25:04

So that was the t year. Maybe if

25:06

he's out there for the tea healthy.

25:10

Who knows he.

25:11

Did come back to play in that Tebow game in twenty eleven.

25:14

Maybe he's not.

25:14

Maybe he's not fully healthy. I mean he

25:17

recovered a fumble in that game.

25:18

Okay, I love giving

25:21

more credits than my number one is great.

25:23

I love I love Lamar Woodley for sure.

25:25

All right, Round three coming at

25:27

you on Tuesday.

25:29

Some pretty good players in that round too.

25:31

There's a Super Bowl MVP in that

25:33

round too, So we'll get to

25:36

round three next week when we come

25:38

back.

25:38

We are continuing.

25:39

Our power

25:42

rankings of.

25:44

Position groups around the NFL, and we stop

25:46

at defensive tackle today, so we'll

25:48

give you our top ten, plus some guys that

25:50

just didn't quite make the cut at that position.

25:53

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