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Ep 2:  Ranking the Best First Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Ep 2:  Ranking the Best First Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

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Ep 2:  Ranking the Best First Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Ep 2:  Ranking the Best First Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Ep 2:  Ranking the Best First Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Ep 2:  Ranking the Best First Round Draft Selections Made by the Steelers

Tuesday, 9th April 2024
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0:08

It's the Steelers Standard on Steelers

0:11

Nation Radio and podcast on

0:13

Steelers dot Com.

0:16

With the draft just seventeen days

0:18

away, I thought it would be fun on

0:20

this show to take a look back in the anals

0:22

of Steelers history.

0:24

I don't know if that's how I think it is. I

0:26

think it is the annals.

0:28

Nope, I think it's anals okay of Steeler's

0:30

history and give you

0:33

who we think our best first round picks

0:35

ever?

0:35

Were our best second round

0:37

picks Everwhere do you get how this is going? Our best

0:40

third round picks ever? And if you couldn't figure it out,

0:42

our best fourth and fifth and say, oh, it's so

0:44

treenius And.

0:45

I'm excited for our best fourteenth round

0:47

picks. Now, we're only going up to seventeen fifty

0:49

modern and.

0:52

Modern draft rules is what we're playing

0:54

by. Before I get to that, though, the NFL

0:56

Instagram page does a

0:58

little cool thing now where they just do slide

1:01

shows of draft classes. What do

1:03

you think about this twenty twelve quarterback

1:05

draft class? They just post RG three right

1:08

Andrew lumber two pick number one Cousins,

1:10

whoa you're doing all over place? Kirk Cousins was round

1:13

four pick one oh two.

1:14

I don't know who else is there?

1:16

Oh Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, round

1:18

three, pick seventy five. You're

1:20

missing another top ten pick though, in the first

1:23

round at a quarterback?

1:24

Was it from the Bills?

1:25

EJ? Manuel? Nope? Then I don't Can

1:27

you give me the team Dolphins? Was

1:30

it? Ryan Tanner's?

1:31

Ryan Tanner picked number eight? And

1:33

then one last notable quarterback from that class?

1:36

What can you give me?

1:37

A team super Bowl MVP.

1:40

From twenty twelve?

1:43

He's a quarterback and he was a Super Bowl MVP. I

1:48

don't know.

1:48

Nick oh, Nick Boles?

1:51

Wow, round three pick eighty

1:53

eight by the Philadelphia Eagles.

1:57

I mean, yeah, it worked out pretty He's got a statue

2:00

wild draft.

2:01

Class or anything about though.

2:02

Andrew luck undoubtedly the best of all

2:04

of them, but a shortened

2:06

career.

2:06

Yeah, haven't we looked into that? Didn't

2:09

we once know that? Like the draft

2:11

classes from like twenty

2:13

thirteen on or twenty

2:16

Yeah, maybe even twenty twelve because Andrew

2:18

lucks out of the league. RG three's out of the league. Kirk

2:20

Cousins has moved around

2:22

a lot, Foles has moved around a lot. Russ

2:24

has now moved around, like the

2:27

quarterbacks in like the last decade

2:29

plus are like all

2:31

on different teams, like no one has stayed

2:34

with their team for like loger.

2:36

Matt Waiamson says it all the time, there's a missing

2:38

middle of the pack when it comes to quarterback

2:41

quarterbacks. Yeah, the Russell Wilsons, the

2:43

Dacks, the lux

2:45

that should have been RG three, Like they should be

2:47

ascending into the end of their prime

2:50

right now but still at their prime and they're

2:52

just not. So you have this big gap between like the Brady's

2:54

and the Rogers and the Bens and the Mannings

2:57

to the younger generations of the

2:59

mahomess and the Allen's and the Jackson's

3:02

and the Pickets.

3:03

Fun to do plurals of guys

3:05

with last names ending in s Jackson,

3:08

Jacksons's all example.

3:12

But yeah, Andrew luck Indy career shortened.

3:15

Yeah RG three with Washington, I

3:17

mean just a terrible mismanagement of him by making

3:19

him play on that bad acl and

3:22

on that turf by

3:24

the elder Shanahan ruined

3:26

that career. Uh Tannehill, Okay,

3:29

Russell Wilson, Hall of Famer, Nick

3:32

Foles, super MVP, and Kirk Cousins at

3:34

the moment, Kirk Cousins.

3:35

The best of that bunch right now

3:37

in the NFL.

3:38

Yeah, what a crazy draft class that was in twenty

3:40

twelve. All good picks, i'd say,

3:43

but none of them really home

3:46

runs except for russ right, I mean Russe would be a home run.

3:48

Really the best quarterback?

3:49

You want to you want to do this, you want to test this theory

3:51

on like the or not test the theory, but prove

3:54

Williams's theory about the middle of the pack.

3:56

Twenty thirteen.

3:57

Well, I'll go one. I'll go a couple

3:59

of years back, starting in twenty ten.

4:01

Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Jimmy Clausen,

4:04

Colt McCoy all

4:06

out of the league. Twenty eleven. The

4:08

year before that, Andrew Look draft class,

4:10

Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert,

4:13

Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton had

4:15

the best. But it's already out.

4:17

Cam Newton had the best.

4:18

Oh yeah, probably, yes, sorry not probably?

4:21

Yeah? Did he won an MVP?

4:22

Kaepernick gone? TJ

4:24

Yates, Tyra.

4:25

Taylor, the Yates of Hell. Tyra Taylor still

4:28

all right?

4:28

Twenty thirteen. E J Manuel so I was one

4:31

year off terrible Geno Smith terrible,

4:33

Mike not terrible, but Mike Glennon, Mark,

4:35

Matt Barkley, Landry

4:38

Jones. We only know that name because he was drafted

4:40

by the Steelers twenty two.

4:41

Drafting Quarterbacks twenty fourteen

4:43

period.

4:44

This is every quarterback take, I know, like

4:46

we're not even leaving out like the number one

4:48

pick that was great, like.

4:49

Twenty fourteen Blake Bortles, Johnny Manziel,

4:52

Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr Okay,

4:54

Jimmy g Okay, Okay,

4:56

aj mccaren, Buzz zach Man. I mean

4:58

those guys Bus but Zachberg.

5:01

But they're just like Els never play. They're

5:03

just sec guys who are on great teams that got

5:05

back up there right all right.

5:08

Twenty fifteen Jameis Winston, Mariota,

5:11

it was the only in Trevor Simeon are the only

5:13

big names from that tract.

5:14

They were they were swinging and missing.

5:17

Miss twenty sixteen Jared Garf,

5:20

Garf, Garf, Gofft, Carson

5:22

Wentz. Wentz was good at the time, yeah,

5:24

but already on his like fourth or fifteen.

5:27

Paxson Lynch, Christian Hackenberg.

5:30

We only know because of Pennce.

5:31

Christian Hackenberg who couldn't break a huddle when he went to

5:33

the New York Brissette.

5:35

That's a decent not decent, but like we're about

5:37

the career backup guy, Nate Sudfeld.

5:40

And then you got to be getting to Mahomes soon, right, all

5:42

right?

5:42

Well, now twenty seventeen, if Mitch

5:44

Trubisky bus Mahomes,

5:47

Deshaun and then the other to

5:49

Shawn. Actually the first

5:52

the brown silk was DeShawn Kays out of Notre

5:54

Dame, CJ.

5:56

Bethar, Josh Dobbs, Okay, Nathan

5:58

Piederman, your

6:01

guy twenty eighteen,

6:03

Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, and

6:05

Josh Allen. But Josh Rosen, things

6:08

are starting to turn though, twenty seventh. Sl

6:11

I mean Sam Donald, Josh

6:13

Rosen.

6:14

No, no, no, There's always going to be swings and missus in every

6:16

draft class. But there was three or four years there

6:18

where there wasn't even.

6:19

A oh that was longer we really

6:21

went to because twenty seventeen had

6:23

Mahomes right, and it also had Mitch and desha.

6:26

But it has Homes. Twenty eighteen had Allen

6:28

right and Jackson.

6:28

So twenty sixteen through like twenty eleven.

6:31

There was there was barely any quarterback.

6:33

Yeah, and the good ones like Andrew Locke

6:36

retired, but now I feel like Cam Newton retire.

6:38

Now I feel like recently though, we're getting really

6:40

good ones. I mean, pickets, draft pass aside,

6:43

if you want to, Okay, we'll go, so we'll we'll

6:45

keep going. Twenty eighteen also had made some Rudolph

6:49

twenty nineteen Kyler Murray, eh Jones

6:52

and Dwayne Haskins rip of course,

6:55

Drew Locke backup, Jared

6:58

Sidham, back up, Gardner Minshew. Technically

7:00

a good packup was picked, but technically

7:02

a backup.

7:03

He's going to start for the Raiders.

7:04

I think Tracey McSorley backup to

7:06

a backup. Twenty twenty Joe

7:08

Burrow, This is where it gets really good.

7:11

You're right, yeah, I'm listening.

7:13

He looked like you were falling asleep there. Joe

7:15

Burrow Tua, Herbert Jordan

7:17

Love, Jalen Wow, what might

7:19

be? Twenty twenty as

7:22

Joe Burrow to a tego by looa justin

7:24

Herbert Jordan Love, Jalen hurts.

7:27

Yeah, that's a pretty good on. Twenty twenty

7:30

one is where we kind of get back because

7:32

it's Kenny uh No, Trevor

7:34

Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin

7:37

Fields, Mac Jones.

7:38

Trevor Lawrence is not that good. I'm gonna

7:40

I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna be planning much.

7:41

I guess they're real and Justin Fields kind

7:44

of we don't know yet. We're optimistic

7:46

in Pittsburgh, but league wide everyone's kind

7:48

of unsure.

7:49

Now we know the rest, we don't need to read the rest of them. No, we don't

7:51

need to go into it. Don't happened twenty twenty two, and then

7:53

c J. Stroud last year.

7:54

But how about twenty twenty one when everyone was saying that's

7:56

a generational draft, ass with five

7:59

guys going in the first round.

8:00

The year before twenty twenty one was the real generation?

8:02

Twenty twenty, Well, we'll probably look back on and

8:04

say, how that's the new version

8:07

of the Eli Phillip. Yeah, Ben, that's the year

8:09

that you wanted to get at quarterback.

8:11

And the Bengals, the Dolphins, the Chargers,

8:14

the Packers, the Eagles all

8:16

hit and how about that? And they all have features

8:18

Burrow to Justin Justin

8:21

Herbert, Jordan Love, Jalen Hurts were the five

8:23

quarterbacks taken earliest.

8:26

They were all they were the top five quarterbacks in that draft

8:28

class and they all hit.

8:31

Sorry, go let's get off the quarterback

8:33

tangent now and let's get back to what we were planning

8:35

on doing. The all time top five

8:38

for first round selections as

8:41

Pittsburgh's for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

8:44

Before we get to that, though, just some fun

8:47

ones to throw out there. You

8:49

know, nineteen fifty seven, they picked Len Dawson.

8:51

Pretty damn good player, but not for the Pittsburgh

8:53

Stlers Steelers.

8:54

But's just wild that they picked him, and too

8:57

bad for his alumni, the Purdue boiler

8:59

Makers. You lost in the National championshiping last

9:01

night.

9:02

I just what could they have

9:04

done? There's nothing to anybody. Yukon's

9:07

just that good. I mean, yeah, they lost, Yukon

9:09

lost.

9:09

I mean I'm in Indiana, guys, so I'll take any chance I

9:11

can get to.

9:12

Okay, but Yukon lost percent

9:14

of its players last year and they still won. They won the national

9:16

title by even more of a dominance stretch than

9:18

they did last year. It's we're

9:20

in the midst of a dynasty.

9:21

In college basketball.

9:23

My favorite trivia question maybe involving

9:26

anything doing ye with the Steelers. The first

9:28

first round draft pick by the Pittsburgh Steelers, number

9:30

three overall.

9:31

Yeah, you tested me on this and I didn't know, but

9:33

we had definitely talked about it before.

9:36

It was William Shakespeare, Yeah,

9:38

not the author now running back

9:40

from no different.

9:41

I think he was born a little bit after the

9:43

other William Shakespeare.

9:45

And how about this too, just to tell you, like

9:47

what football was in nineteen thirty six to nineteen

9:49

forty six, Like their first one, two, three,

9:52

four, five, six, seven, eight, nine

9:55

first round picks, there was two years in that

9:57

stretch they didn't have first round picks, I.

9:58

Think because the World War. But

10:02

that's how far back we were going.

10:05

For their first round picks.

10:07

Their first nine to one running backs

10:09

are fullbacks every single time.

10:11

A different league.

10:12

Yeah.

10:14

The first quarterback that the Steelers took

10:17

was Bobby Lane out of Texas.

10:19

Another great quarterback, but not for

10:21

the Steelers.

10:22

Nailed it though, I mean just absolutely

10:24

nailed that draft pick. Yeah,

10:27

the Steelers drafted Bobby Lane, but

10:30

he didn't play for the Steelers until

10:33

nineteen fifty eight. He was sent to Chicago,

10:35

then the New York Bulldogs, and then he played with

10:38

the Detroit Lions and won

10:41

three NFL championships with the Detroit

10:43

Line, and then he came to Pittsburgh at the

10:45

end of his career. But

10:47

you know, it's just funny. You get Ben, you get Terry. They'll

10:49

be on our lists, I'm sure as their top five. But like then,

10:52

there's two other Hall of Fame quarterbacks that technically

10:54

the Steelers did draft too, with Dawson

10:56

and Bobby Lane. Okay, I'm just gonna

10:58

read some names off to you that aren't on my top

11:00

five list, and okay, this is just going to illustrate

11:03

to.

11:03

You how low.

11:09

Alan Fanica did not make my top five

11:11

Hall of Famer. Rod Woodson

11:13

didn't make my top five Hall of Famer

11:17

and again sorry to his Purdue boiler Makers.

11:21

Lynn Swan didn't make my list.

11:24

Hall of Famer the YEP.

11:26

And then the guys like Lynn Dawson

11:28

and Bobby Lane obviously and Bill Dudley, the

11:31

nineteen forty two first round pick, number one overall

11:34

pick. Bill Dudley was a running back

11:36

out of Virginia. None of those guys really

11:38

made the cut. Then there's always

11:40

guys like who aren't Hall of Famers, but Louis

11:42

Lipps.

11:46

You got Cam Hayward, Keith Miller, got TJ. Watt,

11:49

Lawrence Timmins, Marquise Pouncy,

11:52

David de Castro, Chayzer,

11:55

super.

11:55

MVP, s Antonio Holmes.

11:58

Chazier is such a what if? Really

12:00

really strong first round picks from the Steelers.

12:03

Now they picked number twenty this year. They've

12:06

picked number twenty twice in

12:08

the history of Kenny.

12:11

I remember that. I remember one

12:13

was Kenny. I could not tell

12:15

you.

12:15

The other one.

12:16

There was Darryl Simms. He was

12:18

the defensive tackle. He only played for

12:20

four seasons, two in Pittsburgh,

12:23

two in Cleveland.

12:24

And that's it. Not the

12:26

best track record.

12:28

Number twenty, Trade

12:31

back.

12:32

Up or trade back all right?

12:35

Number five for me, I put Franco

12:37

Harrison at number five. It came

12:39

down to Franco or Rod for me

12:41

as.

12:41

My last guy.

12:42

It's tough to admit Franco time.

12:45

That's exactly what it was.

12:46

And I was like, Rod was

12:49

so great, arguably

12:51

the best corner in the NFL. Ever,

12:53

you could put him into the debate with Deon Sanders,

12:55

I think, and might be able to win the debate.

12:58

Franco was great, but I don't think he's that.

13:00

In that category when it comes to running backs,

13:03

but he is in that category when it comes to the Steelers.

13:05

You know, as I was sitting there, going Rod Franco,

13:07

Ron Franco. One guy won

13:10

a Super Bowl with the Ravens and

13:13

course with Franchise. The other guy is

13:15

famously credited to being

13:18

the catalyst to the team winning by the teammates

13:20

back then, including mister me and Joe Green,

13:22

who's at the top of both of our lists.

13:23

We don't even have to spoil that. So

13:27

I had to give the nod to Franco.

13:28

Just too important for the Steelers to not have him at

13:30

least in the top five.

13:33

Number four, I have Troy Paulamaler

13:36

checking in.

13:36

Yeah, pick number sixteen in the two

13:38

thousand and three

13:42

draft out of USC, one

13:44

year prior to Ben Roethlisberger.

13:46

I mean, how about this for a run of first round picks two thousand

13:48

and three, Troy two thousand and four, Ben two thousand and five,

13:50

Heath two thousand and six, Santonio, I

13:53

don't win your Super.

13:53

Bowl right there.

13:54

I mean, like you said, Troy and Ben,

13:57

Hall of famers, Keith and Santonio.

13:59

No, but that's four members in a row

14:02

of the Steelers Hall of Honor.

14:04

Yes, and San Antonio obviously

14:06

a Super Bowl m v P as well. But

14:08

back to Troy Palm, you know, I think he's the best defensive

14:11

player that we've seen.

14:12

Yeah, I think that's kind of hard to argue.

14:14

It's hard.

14:15

I mean, there's a lot of James

14:18

is a great defensive player, TJ.

14:20

I think t J. Watts the one who can

14:22

really given him.

14:24

But I still think Troy.

14:25

Just so dying. I mean, but so is TJ. Though,

14:28

so dynamic, so unique Troy

14:30

both they both are different

14:33

ways. TJ that unique, I mean backing

14:35

down passes, getting dropping into coverage

14:37

as a as an edge rusher.

14:40

Over the line of No, he's not

14:42

that, That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to be he has

14:44

you would be like Troy. His

14:47

fingertip catches on

14:49

inters.

14:51

Though, sure, those those fingertips

14:53

grabs by Troy hair the work

14:55

of art. But TJ.

14:58

Watt's ability to jop but as

15:00

he's rushing an offensive

15:04

and intercept line balls of the line

15:06

of scrimmage. I think they're

15:08

both incredible Players's

15:11

brother do that?

15:12

I see Max Crosby do that. Sometimes

15:14

I see Miles Garrett do that.

15:16

Yeah, yeah, I don't see Miles Garrett doing he does.

15:19

He does well, I mean, take off your blinders,

15:21

he does. But Troy Palamoney just

15:23

was. I mean, you hear the stories from the

15:25

Brady's and the Mannings of the world, being like, he's never where he's

15:28

supposed to be, but he's always exactly where he has to be.

15:30

He like, it's just.

15:32

The sixth

15:35

sense he had on the football field, yeah,

15:37

is second to none.

15:38

And I think

15:41

you know.

15:41

You you'd look at the two Super Bowls, the defensive

15:43

Player of the Year Hall of Famer. I

15:47

think it was pretty obvious for me that

15:49

my second defensive

15:52

player on this top five list and

15:56

of only two, would be Troy palm Yeah.

15:59

I mean, we just discussed how

16:01

hard it was leaving Rod Woodson off, and if

16:04

Rod Woodson never left Pittsburgh.

16:06

Maybe it's a different story.

16:07

It's I think it is different, and

16:10

that's not the way history ran its course.

16:13

But Rod Wilson still beloved in Pittsburgh

16:15

despite winning his one Super Bowl with the Ravens

16:19

in Baltimore. But the

16:21

fact that he left and Troy stayed

16:23

for two played in a third

16:26

and as you said was as dynamic

16:28

as ever. Hard to leave

16:30

him off this list, and it's hard to leave

16:32

any guy off this list, to be honest. It's

16:36

we're talking about maybe the most successful

16:39

franchise in NFL history

16:41

in the entire course of the league. Not

16:44

just like how the Patriots were the best

16:46

team from two thousand to twenty twenty,

16:48

or the Chiefs are the best team from twenty

16:51

seventeen until whenever Patrick Mahomes

16:53

leaves Kansas City. We're talking

16:55

about over the course of the entire history

16:58

of the league. The Pittsburgh Steelers are probably

17:01

probably the best

17:03

and most successful team.

17:05

In league history.

17:07

So it's hard to leave a guy off this list.

17:09

But it's an honor. And if you make it.

17:11

Number three to me in this first

17:13

round is one of only

17:15

three first overall selections,

17:18

Pittsburgh Steelers.

17:19

Are you going Terry or Ben?

17:20

Well? Terry? Ben wasn't picked first. Oh Ben wasn't

17:22

dummy, so.

17:24

It would obviously be Terry Bradshaw nineteen

17:26

seventy number one overall. Pick out a Lazon

17:29

a tech won for Super Bowls.

17:31

You know the rest, the blonde Bomber.

17:33

This is I think this is one of the greatest

17:36

debates in Pittsburgh sports

17:38

history.

17:39

Terryer Ben terror Ben.

17:40

Because Mario

17:43

and Sid I think is the only comparable

17:45

one, and I think majority

17:48

will go with Mario. But

17:51

Terry and Ben poses a legitimate

17:53

People.

17:53

Are more split on that.

17:54

Yeah, No, I think it's I mean, lem

17:56

you is better than Crosby.

17:57

It's just yeah, it's a different level.

17:59

You could say that some people will make the

18:01

case for Sid, especially what he's doing at

18:03

eight thirty six putting forty

18:06

goals.

18:06

But it's yeah, you can't.

18:08

I'm not. I'm not disagreeing. We can't beat the mistee.

18:10

I'm not disagree with you. There are people who could

18:12

argue it. But I think that's

18:14

why the more tantalizing discussion

18:17

I have is Terry or Ben.

18:19

And we lean Ben.

18:20

But before we get to Ben, I mentioned

18:23

Terry Bradshaw was one of three first overtall picks by

18:25

the Pittsburgh Steelers.

18:25

The other one was Bill Dudley. Can you name the third?

18:28

If you can, I will straight up give you one hundred dollars,

18:30

Like I'm not even kidding, I'll give you one hundred dollars, right?

18:32

Was it?

18:33

Was? It one of the two guys we already mentioned

18:35

was a bid.

18:37

No no, no, no, no, they

18:39

will never get this.

18:40

Can you give me Let's give you a nineteen forty.

18:42

That's in nineteen fifty six. Yeah, okay, I'll

18:44

give you one thousand dollars. It can get it.

18:47

Ernie Sattner came around that

18:49

time. Nope, was he even

18:51

our first round pick?

18:52

I don't know. I'm not seeing him right now. Then

18:56

I have known it was Gary Glick.

18:59

Gary Glick, the defensive back out of Colorado

19:01

State, taken first his tenure with

19:03

the Steelers in nineteen fifty six. Gary

19:05

Glick played for the Steelers for three years nineteen

19:08

fifty six through nineteen fifty nine,

19:10

and then he went on to play for Washington Baltimore

19:13

and he won an AFL championship with

19:15

the San Diego Chargers in nineteen sixty

19:17

three. I have a question, all right, Rather, I'll

19:19

do a fourteen career interceptions in the seventy

19:21

one games played. He was also nine for twenty

19:23

five on field goals. Apparently he liked to kick the ball

19:25

too.

19:26

How many people not named Bob Labriola

19:29

can answer that question correct?

19:30

Oh, he would have known in a second.

19:31

I'm saying not name Bob Labriel, me and

19:34

you.

19:34

Now, yeah, you'll never forget.

19:35

I mean I'm gonna forget it eventually.

19:37

Gary Glick is such an easy name.

19:38

I remember, all right. So number two

19:41

was Ben Roethlisberger. For me, I

19:43

have him in front of Terry. I know Terry's got

19:45

imaged in the Super Bowls, but Ben Roethlisberger,

19:48

the statistical output

19:50

is just so overwhelming. Different eras,

19:52

of course has to be taken into account. But

19:56

Ben just put up numbers that

20:01

really blue. Terry's out of the water, and

20:05

I honestly give

20:07

a little People will be out there and be like, oh, the game

20:09

was tougher back then. Athletes

20:11

are better than they ever are as

20:14

each year progresses, They're they're evolving

20:16

as people. Ben was playing

20:18

against tougher competition, i'd say, more

20:23

developed competition than Terry Bradshaw

20:25

was. So I give them not

20:27

to Ben pick number eleven

20:30

overall in the two thousand and four draft out of Miami

20:32

of Ohio. I mean, I

20:34

think he's the best quarterback in franchise history.

20:36

But like you were saying, the debate

20:39

is probably I'd actually

20:41

say it's probably sixty forty in favor of Terry.

20:43

For the majority of people saying he's in favor

20:46

of Terry.

20:46

Yeah, I think it is. But

20:49

I'm on that forty percent. I think Ben is the

20:51

better quarterback and I think he is the franchise

20:54

crown holder.

20:58

Yeah, I don't know if I agree with

21:00

that majority sixty percent, And

21:03

you, I think agree with me. Correct?

21:05

You stand by me?

21:07

What that you're in the forty I.

21:09

Just said I think Ben's better. Yeah.

21:11

Are we biased?

21:14

I don't think we are, because what's

21:16

there to be biased against?

21:18

Terry? Bradshaw's our quarterback too? Yeah,

21:20

I know we didn't see him, but.

21:21

I mean you could also say that Terry had better

21:23

weapons for the course of his career

21:25

with Lynn Swan and Stalworth.

21:27

Yeah.

21:27

I mean, and then he had a

21:29

Hall of Fame center for what

21:32

the entirety of his time in Pittsburgh.

21:35

Yeah.

21:35

Ben had Ben in kind of two acts in his career

21:37

too, the winning Super Bowls act and then

21:39

the pistical monster on the fantasy quarterback

21:42

runs that he had with ab Leve

21:44

Bell, Martavis Bryant, Mike Wallace. I

21:47

mean, you'll never forget the two

21:49

games back to back five hundred yards plus

21:52

six touchdowns.

21:53

He had five hundred yards and one.

21:54

I think he had five hundred and both.

21:56

Now I think he had like three hundred and eighty something.

21:58

Still ridiculous numbers. It was Kenny

22:00

Pikett season in a game in two games.

22:02

Oh, I guess you can say one game.

22:04

Yeah, So I just

22:06

give that tip of the captain Ben Roethlisberger

22:09

when it comes to that category.

22:10

And finally, the number one.

22:12

Is the man means it's the number one player

22:14

in franchise.

22:15

It's number one playing franchise history. The

22:17

fourth overall pick in nineteen sixty

22:19

nine NFL draft out of North

22:21

Texas, of course it is.

22:23

Me and Joe Green.

22:24

My favorite, my favorite like

22:28

little party trick or fun fact

22:31

in sports history is Joe

22:33

Green is so dominant and

22:35

so influential of an NFL

22:37

football player or football player in general,

22:41

that North Texas University

22:43

named their team after him.

22:46

That's my favorite sat or that's my favorite fun

22:48

fact ever.

22:50

Fourth overall pick in that nineteen sixty nine draft

22:52

class, the Eagles picked Leroy Keys third

22:54

overall, a running back out of Purdue.

22:57

He's a college Hall of Famer, but he only let

23:00

about four seasons with the Eagles, one more with the Chiefs

23:02

and then fell off. The Falcons at number two,

23:05

picked George Cunns, offensive tackle, a

23:07

Notre Dame.

23:07

He made a Pro Bowl.

23:08

Not bad okay, but three time

23:11

first Team All Pro two in seventy two, seventy three, seventy

23:13

five.

23:13

Not bad player, just not in the Pro Bowls

23:15

back then, meant something.

23:17

Not in the Hall of Fame like me and Joe though. The

23:19

number one overall picking mean Jones.

23:20

Year nineteen sixty nine. You know

23:23

who it is, but do you is it?

23:24

Can you stow back? Nope?

23:27

Juice real OJ Simpson

23:30

first overall. I'll say the Bills

23:32

didn't make a mistake there. How

23:34

could they have known what was going to happen in the future. Well,

23:38

was one of the best running.

23:39

And he's it's not like he fizzled out

23:41

like he's. He played as

23:43

dominant as anyone had ever seen

23:45

a running back play. You could argue maybe

23:48

besides Jim Brown, right,

23:50

I mean, Jim Brown is the greatest

23:52

running back of all time. But up

23:54

to that point was OJ Simpson number two?

23:57

O J Simpson?

23:58

Yeah, in coming out of college at USC

24:00

was right, just a slam dunk pick.

24:04

The Bills can sleep at night. But the other two

24:06

teams passing.

24:07

On Joe, the Falcons and the

24:09

Eagles.

24:10

Eagles, Yeah, that's tough for them.

24:11

I mean you can even say that Bills might

24:15

second guess their pick.

24:16

Well, Joe Green won the rings.

24:19

OJJ did MVP

24:21

in nineteen seventy three and was amazing.

24:23

Yeah, now I I I

24:25

I mean again, you'd have to reference

24:27

the NFL Living Encyclopedia, Bob

24:30

Labriola. But at the time

24:33

oj was such a cons you

24:35

could have said, by the time he retired, O J. Simpson

24:37

was the second best running back to ever live.

24:39

Yes, and and by the time he retired, and

24:41

in that draft class, he was just like the I

24:43

mean, he was sure.

24:45

There was no question about.

24:47

Like, you're taking O J. Simpson? All

24:49

right, Thursday, we'll

24:51

we do in the second round.

24:52

Have to do a little bit more research and dig into that,

24:54

but we'll be giving you our best five second

24:57

round selections in Pittsburgh Steelers

24:59

history for the draft.

25:01

When we come back, though, we're going to look at this year's

25:03

draft.

25:03

We're going to talk about the quarterbacks up at the top

25:05

of the draft board, talk about

25:08

big time playmakers as well to keep an eye

25:10

on. But the fun thing that we're gonna

25:12

do is I got one of those things where you've

25:14

got fifteen dollars in your pocket,

25:16

you gotta build a roster consisting

25:18

of a quarterback around about two wide receivers

25:21

and a tight end. So we'll do that when

25:23

we come back on the Steelers standard

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