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notice, six month after the Hamas

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terrorist attacks, the Us ramps up pressure

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on Israel over a near famine in

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Gaza. An immediate ceasefire is essential. is

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Israel any closer to a deal

0:56

to free the hostages or end the

0:59

war? World Food Programme Director Cindy Mccain

1:01

on the Crisis in Gaza and the

1:03

parents of hostage only or neutral

1:05

are here ahead and on alert as

1:08

Israel and the United States prep for

1:10

a significant attack by Iran in the

1:12

Middle East Congress debate sending more

1:14

aid. To allies with our speaker Mike

1:17

Johnson's job on the line can be

1:19

pass it. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike

1:21

Turner isn't It was shitty. Donald Trump

1:23

cashes in with big donors to try

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to catch up the President biden money

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on a politician running. hey, rich people

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want one but with warning signs for

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each candidate who will struggle more with

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swing voters this fall or political panel

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is coming up. Along

1:46

the example in Washington Dc with the

1:49

State of Our Union is frankly heartsick

1:51

news this morning out of Israel as

1:53

the region March Six months since those

1:56

brutal Hamas terrorist attacks on October seventh

1:58

against Israel killing twelve hundred. The taking

2:00

more than two hundred fifty people. Hostages

2:02

Israeli military now says it is withdrawn

2:04

forces from the southern Gaza Strip. Though.

2:07

Quote significant force remains in other areas

2:09

of Gaza. That. As an

2:11

Israeli officials whole scene in this morning

2:13

that an Israeli delegation is expected to

2:15

join hostage release and ceasefire negotiations. In

2:18

Cairo, Egypt. All of that as

2:20

Israelis anger. Over. The roughly

2:22

one hundred hostages' still in captivity

2:24

spilled onto the streets of Israel

2:27

last night. Demonstrators demanding the resignation

2:29

of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Over.

2:31

His handling of the war and his

2:34

failure in their view to sufficiently focus

2:36

on bringing those hostages home. Meanwhile.

2:39

In Gaza. The brutal tall

2:41

continue was in the Israel Defense Forces

2:43

war against Hamas, which embeds within the

2:45

populace. Israeli. Attacks have resulted in

2:47

the deaths and injuries. A tens

2:49

of thousands of innocent Palestinians and

2:52

aid organization say all. Two point

2:54

two. Million. People in Gaza

2:56

do not have enough to eat with half

2:58

the population on the brink of starvation. Here.

3:01

In the United States, the desperate conditions in

3:03

Gaza and President Biden support for Israel in

3:05

the wake of the Hamas attacks. Of.

3:07

Damage to standing with his progressive

3:09

coalition and this week. President.

3:11

Biden raise the pressure on anti Israeli

3:13

government to allow more aid. To.

3:15

Enter Gaza. Joining. Us now

3:17

is the Chairman of the House Committee

3:20

on Intelligence Congressmen My Turner of Ohio

3:22

I'm Congressman. Thanks for joining Us Mr.

3:24

Chairman! I want to start on the

3:26

news. This morning, Israeli military says it

3:28

has withdrawn some ground forces from Khan

3:31

Yunis in Southern Gaza, though a significant

3:33

force remains in other parts of Gaza.

3:35

How. Significant is this move. I

3:41

think job you're silly things are

3:43

some efforts to respond to the

3:45

White House's i'm of vocal criticism

3:47

of the operations of of Israel

3:49

in and gossips you know I

3:51

do indicated or jake this is

3:53

the six months or demarcation knows

3:55

the horrific attack that occurred October

3:57

Seventh and and the subsequent. Declaration

4:00

by Israel that they would enter

4:02

Gaza for the purposes of eliminating

4:04

Hamas today or the Palestinians in

4:06

Gaza remain a hostage just to

4:08

Hamas and Hummus has not been

4:10

eliminated. We've seen I think and

4:12

overconfidence of Israel are both on

4:14

it's intelligence both when it failed

4:16

to see October Seventh and when

4:18

it went into Gaza to eliminate

4:20

Hamas that has been as a

4:22

part of the the out dog

4:24

com that we've seen of the

4:26

both has have hazardous and dangerous

4:29

military operations have resulted. In an

4:31

unacceptable civilian deaths and certainly or

4:33

the quite the food crisis he

4:35

described this comes as more negotiations

4:37

for a ceasefire in release the

4:39

hostages are beginning. Does. This

4:41

move by Israel to withdraw some some

4:43

troops from Gaza does make you more

4:45

optimistic. The news that Israel is sending

4:47

delegation to Cairo. And out

4:50

what is your position on the

4:52

urgency of the ceasefire With the

4:54

return of hostages. Were

4:58

dead. The Cia Director Director Burns has done

5:00

an excellent job in in my shuttle

5:02

diplomacy and trying to bring all of the

5:04

parties together to get of the of

5:06

the hostages released and to get a

5:08

ceasefire. And quite frankly it seems that

5:10

almost President Biden has been asleep at the

5:13

at the wheel as he has not

5:15

responded to the crisis as it's unfolding a

5:17

now making public statements criticizing Netanyahu criticizing

5:19

his rule of when this has been been

5:21

going on for sometimes Director Burns has

5:23

has tried desperately to get a cease fire

5:26

and suggest the hostages released. I think he's

5:28

done an excellent job selling the last

5:30

ceasefire and hostage to that were released were

5:32

have resulted in of his efforts. I'm

5:34

I think damn near by. I put a

5:37

great deal of faith in the work

5:39

that he's doing and I'm certainly hopeful that

5:41

that will result in both houses is released

5:43

and a ceasefire. so additional humanitarian aid

5:45

to get the Palestinians. Meanwhile the U S

5:47

is actively preparing for Iran or to

5:49

strike ah after Israel killed. A

5:52

high ranking Iranian military officials are

5:54

who wrote were at a diplomatic

5:56

facilities in Damascus, Syria. Can. You

5:58

be any more specific about

6:00

the nature of the threat

6:02

from Iran. Are Americans in

6:04

danger? Why

6:07

think got a pair of American to

6:10

marry remain in danger Member By I

6:12

Bring in proxies have continued to attack

6:14

Us troops in the area again with

6:17

the by demonstration being slow to respond

6:19

and ultimately responding to those attacks. And

6:21

course United States has moved additional capabilities

6:24

and assets in the area to deter

6:26

Iran from entering into or this conflict

6:28

directly with Israel. Although their proxies mass

6:31

which the conflict is is directly with

6:33

and Hezbollah continues to be a threat

6:35

to Israel I in Lebanon. And

6:37

but I as he can. What we're seeing

6:40

here is certainly the the Consulate in Syria

6:42

was a legitimate targets from or for Israel

6:44

because I ran certainly as the source of

6:47

which all this is coming at the same

6:49

time it it still is very unwise as

6:51

we work as we're trying to put pressure

6:53

on Iran to keep them out of this

6:56

conflict both with us presence and with our

6:58

response. The tax on Or and troops. The

7:01

certainly does escalate the issue throughout

7:03

the entire reason western to Ukraine

7:05

and issued that's Important to you

7:07

are and your fellow Republican chairman.

7:10

Michael Mccaul who runs The Fourth or Smitty

7:12

are times when the call me to come

7:14

at this week about what he says sounds

7:17

like Russian propaganda from from some conservative media

7:19

are and why it's so difficult to explain

7:21

to republican voters why supporting Ukraine as important

7:23

he told to yeah see quote I think

7:25

Russian propaganda has made it's way into the

7:28

United States unfortunately and it's infected a good.

7:30

Chunk. Of my party's base, he singled out

7:32

primetime shows and conservative channels. You agree with

7:34

them and and how big is this problem?

7:39

Though it is it's obsolete. A true

7:41

we see directly coming from Russia attempts

7:43

to mask communications that are anti Ukraine's

7:45

and pro Russia messages some of which

7:47

we even here being added on the

7:50

house floor. I'm in their members of

7:52

congress today who so incorrectly say that

7:54

this conflict between Russia and Ukraine is

7:56

over Nato which of course it is

7:58

not have been are potent. Having made

8:00

it very clear both publicly into his

8:03

on population that his his of view

8:05

is it as an A of have

8:07

a much broader claim of Russia or

8:09

to Eastern Europe and including claiming all

8:11

Ukraine territory as as Russia's now to

8:13

the extent that this propaganda takes hold

8:15

it makes it more difficult for us

8:18

to really see this as an authoritarian

8:20

vs democracy battle which is what it

8:22

is present. She of China's of fiber

8:24

put himself of identified as such willing

8:26

to stand up for democracy We need

8:28

to make certain that. That we know

8:31

of. That authoritarian regimes never stop when

8:33

they when they start and aggression. Ukraine.

8:36

Needs our help and assistance now and

8:39

this is a very critical time Us

8:41

Congress to step up and provide that

8:43

eight Speaker Johnson said leadership is in

8:45

trouble if he puts a bill funding

8:48

a Ukraine providing easy brain on the

8:50

floor. Corny Marjorie Taylor Green, a your

8:52

colleague from Georgia who's already threatened emotions

8:55

of Eight, vacate on how worried should.

8:58

Speak. Or johnson be. I

9:02

don't think she's had any risk. I

9:04

think that that would dinner with but

9:06

people been referring to as the Chaos

9:08

Caucus. Those individuals who are seeking attention

9:11

for themselves and trying to stop all

9:13

of the important work in in Congress

9:15

are now seen ab as merely disruptive.

9:17

Hakeem Jeffries minority leader on the Democratic

9:19

side has made it clear or that

9:21

the Democrats will not join with efforts

9:24

to unseat Johnson as we this year

9:26

approaching the election undertake the most important

9:28

work of Congress and which courses are

9:30

you make you certainly. Fund the Government

9:32

make certain that the sub National security packages

9:34

pass on course that are formed. Surveillance Of

9:37

Reauthorization Act Passes Yeah, let's talk about that

9:39

because Speaker Johnson announced this weekend that the

9:41

house is gonna vote. On. That for

9:43

for Us surveillance bill are the could

9:46

reform and extend authority for spy agencies

9:48

are for them to be able to

9:50

conduct surveillance of foreign intelligence on. Domestic.

9:53

Soil it's it's known as Pfizer. Other have

9:55

been abuses in the past. I know this

9:57

has been a consensus is an issue with.

10:00

New and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Or Jim Jordan

10:02

you have different views on this. Are you gonna

10:04

vote for this latest version of the fires Of

10:06

Bill and you think it will have the votes

10:08

to pass? A

10:12

zillion I was doubled. The intelligence committee was

10:14

instrumental in drafting the building's going to the

10:16

house floor and project I proceed. You be

10:18

raising this issue because it's this is. A

10:21

Surveillance. Surveillance of foreigners who are

10:24

abroad or they are. But we're

10:26

not surveilling foreigners and United States

10:28

We're not surveillance of Americans And

10:30

I says those individuals who says

10:32

of warrantless search of Americans.are just

10:34

not telling the truth. These are

10:36

foreigners abroad. Their a select group

10:38

of individuals who are national security

10:40

threats. If you're an American and

10:42

your corresponding with Isis yes if

10:44

worth dub before spying on Isis

10:46

your communications are going to be

10:48

captured Him you would want us

10:50

to that All Americans. Would want us

10:52

to try to to make certain that we

10:54

keep ourselves safe from these terrorists outside terrorist

10:57

groups organizations Are we are not spying on

10:59

Americans Is not a warrantless surveillance program. This

11:01

is foreigners who are broad. Only.

11:03

And this needs to pass and you think it

11:05

has devoted? well? I

11:09

think it does on your well. I think

11:11

that the those who mischaracterize this are small

11:13

compared to those who understand that. this goes

11:15

to the heart of our ability to get

11:18

intelligence that allows us to be a to

11:20

keep Americans safe or this is not a

11:22

warrantless surveillance of Americans. Are it as Chairman

11:24

of the House Intelligence Committee Congressman My Turner

11:27

of Ohio thank you so much are pretty

11:29

good time. Take.

11:32

They have missed. in the wake

11:34

of the world's emphasis in the

11:36

attack. how much aid is getting

11:38

into Gaza? is more going to

11:40

be able to come in? Record

11:42

of the World Food Programme: Cindy

11:44

Mccain join me next and later.

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podcast. Back

13:05

to say that The Union six months

13:07

ago Today with six months ago today

13:09

when more than two hundred fifty Israelis

13:11

and others were kidnapped. And. Taken hostage

13:13

by Hamas and other terrorist groups. And

13:16

several of those hostages are dual

13:18

Israeli American citizens, including twenty year

13:20

old. Oh. Mare Neutra is the grandson

13:22

of holocaust survivors. Born on Long Island, he

13:24

decided to take a gap year and join

13:26

the Israeli Army. Sort. Of our our

13:28

parents Ronan and or know new and their

13:31

other son. Daniel Arms.

13:34

Thank. You again, you know I've I've I know

13:36

of no Feel like I've known News As Now

13:38

for six months. And it's it's. horrible. I

13:41

can't imagine how you're feeling on the six

13:43

month anniversary on what's going through your mind.

13:46

I continue with sitting here. Take

13:48

six months later and. Having

13:51

to experience the terror everyday everyday

13:53

to will wake up with saying

13:56

what are we doing. To.

13:58

Bring our Sunday com. We

14:00

feel that way fanning day by day and

14:02

six month mark. We can believe that while

14:05

you're not failing, you guys are doing everything

14:07

you can. I've and I can even count

14:09

how many times have interviewed you bite, But

14:12

certainly our leaders are failing and Lm. There

14:14

are people in the streets of Israel

14:16

are critical of Netanyahu and his government

14:19

for not being focused enough on the

14:21

mission of getting hostages. but I'm. However

14:24

comfortable you are, you agree with them. Bringing

14:27

the hostages Facts of the the top priority

14:29

it's of. The. World's Top Rarely ever

14:31

a little freddie escalation in the region

14:34

said the opening ascent the sentence saying

14:36

in a release the Hostages. You

14:38

know any any sentence of any the amount

14:40

of cease fire without release the hostages is

14:43

a death sentence to them. As

14:45

far as what's going on in as wrong. You.

14:47

Know there's a broad range of everyone

14:49

feels that more needs to be done.

14:52

Every one is demanding more from the

14:54

government's. In L

14:56

It people and Sam and different families

14:58

have different perspectives on how to achieve

15:00

that and that's what we're saying. Can

15:03

you? What do you want people at home watching right

15:05

now? What Do you want them to know? About

15:07

your brother. All.

15:10

My brother is a strong.

15:12

Friendly. Amazing guy! He's

15:15

really funny guy. Ah,

15:17

And so many people have reached out to

15:19

me from his youth group from school, from

15:21

so many different places, hundreds of people to

15:24

switching out us to Tom tell us how

15:26

much he means to them. And

15:28

he's really a person who built communities

15:31

around him. and without him, these communities

15:33

are last. We. Don't know what to do without

15:35

him. I'm

15:37

Prime Minister Netanyahu has come under. A

15:40

lot of criticism of for how is conducting

15:42

the war. On. Gaza. Do.

15:45

You see this. I am A

15:47

is it's political for you. It's

15:49

not theoretical your your son is

15:51

in nozzle. I'm. Do

15:55

at what are you have? Thoughts on

15:57

the war, the pressure from Biden on

15:59

an attorney. Though. It's.

16:02

Stuff you're not when a political

16:05

people and we're putting our a

16:07

difficult spot. We we met farming

16:09

senator now. Ah, about

16:11

ten days ago. Although the

16:13

first time you man, I'm not my first

16:15

on on the first time and my job.

16:18

We. Feel that the parade is on

16:21

a we're not sure the parrot is

16:23

our rights our. There's no question the

16:25

war must be one and and Hamas

16:27

must be eradicated. But. They. Are

16:29

hostages are running out of time and

16:31

six months in. Yesterday. Was

16:33

just announced that one additional hostage

16:35

was was announced, dad and his

16:38

body was brought back to Israel

16:40

in. Ah, I'm a just

16:42

you know we are constantly on the

16:44

that. Of. Fear.

16:47

And. And the urgency.

16:49

It's not clear whether the

16:51

Israeli administration. Has. Defied

16:54

already right? know? How

16:56

do you maintain hope? The

16:58

just of his. That's. What he

17:01

needs from us in only we have

17:03

to imagine that he is holding up.

17:06

On and that he's waiting to be

17:08

rescued. A time as of essence

17:10

you know every day. Is.

17:13

Known. As. A death sentence to them. Really

17:16

Daniel, Keep this is your older brother. your

17:18

browser. I'm I have a brother. I know

17:20

how close mother's can get. Tell

17:23

me something about. Omer.

17:25

That. Our. Viewers around the

17:27

World war remember when they hear his

17:29

name gimme a details of that a

17:31

brother wouldn't. Ah,

17:34

Well. I. Guess I could

17:36

tell you that in the past few years he's

17:38

been really busy. I mean, I he

17:40

was always super involved with like sports and

17:42

youth groups and all that on. So he

17:44

was in a home all the time and

17:46

of course saturday draft into the Army. i

17:49

think at the same all that often but as

17:51

soon as i did he would always come home

17:53

and first thing he would do is just completely

17:55

smother mean bad vibe wouldn't let me sleep to

17:57

fall asleep on top of me and that's where

18:00

He's this really big and strong guy, but at the

18:02

same time he has this really soft core. He's

18:05

just this big, bear-like hugging guy.

18:08

We really need him.

18:12

Omar Nutra. We hope that he comes back soon.

18:14

We hope that the priority is put on getting

18:16

the hostages out, a priority

18:18

by Biden, Netanyahu, Qatar,

18:21

Egypt, and even the

18:23

people at Hamas. I hope that they bring him home

18:25

soon. Thank you so much for joining us. We have

18:27

to remember that everything can

18:29

end if Hamas gives back the hostages

18:32

and puts on the weapon. This whole

18:34

war can end. So

18:37

all the pressure on Israel, yes,

18:39

Qatar, of course, Egypt, but at

18:41

the end of the day, Hamas needs the

18:43

food. The war would end today if they

18:45

gave the hostages back and lay down their

18:48

arms. Agreed. Thanks so

18:50

much for being here. Next time with Omar.

18:52

Okay? Next time with Omar. Israel

18:54

is set to open a new humanitarian passage into

18:56

Gaza after that horrific attack that killed seven aid

18:58

workers from the world's central kitchen. To

19:01

move that has threatened to slow the already meager

19:03

flow of aid into the devastated region. And joining

19:05

us now is the executive director of the World

19:07

Food Program, Cindy McCain. Cindy,

19:09

Ambassador McCain, good to see you. Thank you for joining

19:11

us. Israel has also approved opening the

19:14

Eretz Crossing from Israel into northern Gaza

19:16

to get this desperately needed aid in.

19:18

How important is opening that crossing for

19:21

you and your workers with the World

19:23

Food Program? Will

19:25

that help hold off this

19:27

famine that you've set as imminent? Well,

19:31

there are two entrances. It's there at

19:34

Ashford. And all

19:36

of that is very important. We

19:38

need to get food at scale up

19:40

north. But

19:42

with that said, we

19:45

continue to get not trucks just in

19:47

up the defense roads, but up the

19:49

beach roads, but also through the various

19:51

entrances. We need more,

19:53

though. This just isn't enough.

19:56

And as you know, we're literally on the

19:58

brink of going over the edge. over the

20:00

cliff with famine and not being able to

20:02

recover from it. So Secretary Blinken

20:04

praised the move by Netanyahu to

20:06

open Eret's Crossing, but he said, quote, the real

20:08

test is results. When

20:10

do you expect your trucks will be able

20:13

to move through the Eret's Crossing? Have you

20:15

seen any tangible evidence yet on the ground

20:17

that more aid is going to get in?

20:21

Well, there are certainly meetings that have been

20:23

had, and I'm aware of some of them,

20:25

and I know that there's plenty more going

20:28

on right now. Please

20:30

remember this, though, and so our viewers

20:32

understand. WFP stands ready. We have right

20:34

now amassed outside on the border food

20:37

for 1.1 million people for three months. We

20:41

just need to get it in. That's

20:43

why these crossings are so important, and

20:45

more crossings are needed, as you know.

20:48

You've been sounding the alarm about this crisis,

20:51

especially in northern Gaza, for months now. Why

20:54

do you think there has been such a

20:56

holdup getting the aid into Gaza? Is it

20:58

because of security concerns that weapons might be

21:00

smuggled in? Is it punitive

21:02

because the October 7th attacks were

21:04

so horrific, the hostages still remain in

21:07

Gaza? What is the reason for the blockade

21:09

as it's been? Well,

21:13

from our experience, we've just had

21:15

difficulties getting through the checkpoints. When

21:21

the Israelis take a look at the trucks and

21:23

x-ray them, that's done in a very efficient and

21:25

effective manner. It's just once

21:27

we get in, and many times, either

21:31

the right foot's not talking to the left foot. It

21:34

just depends. Of course, you've seen the examples

21:36

of when we were looted very heavily. People

21:39

are desperate, and you and I both know you

21:41

would do anything to feed your children. We

21:44

have to remember this is an

21:46

insane thing that's going on,

21:49

and it's something that we as

21:51

humanitarians must be able to get in

21:53

with our humanitarian principles and deliver aid

21:56

in such a way. to

22:00

Gaza, also extremely limited for journalists.

22:03

So can you paint a picture based on what

22:06

you've seen or based on what your aid workers

22:08

have told you about just how dire the crisis

22:10

has become? What

22:12

is the impact of the food shortage, especially

22:15

for children? Well

22:18

children are dying as we speak

22:20

and those that are not dying

22:22

or haven't died yet are so

22:24

emaciated and lacking so much

22:27

in the way of important nutrients at this

22:29

particular time in their life cycles. If

22:32

they do live, they'll never recover from it. So

22:35

it's much more than just getting food in. It's

22:38

about the kind of foods that we get and

22:40

making sure that we can get certainly foods for

22:42

adults, but most importantly those for younger children

22:44

who really are in desperate need of

22:46

nutrients right now. There's

22:48

this news this morning that the Israeli military says

22:51

that they're withdrawing some ground forces from Kanyunas

22:53

in southern Gaza. Would this mean anything

22:55

significant for the World Food Program or other

22:57

aid workers? Would it make it easier to

22:59

get food to people who need it? I

23:04

really don't know. I don't

23:06

understand the implications of the

23:08

withdrawal yet and obviously I'm not

23:10

privy to those decisions and

23:13

those discussions at all. What I do know

23:15

is that without the ability to gain access

23:17

and to be able to get our food

23:19

in and get it in at scale, more

23:21

importantly, more people are

23:23

going to die and die at a much faster rate. You

23:26

have just reached the one-year mark as the

23:29

executive director of the World Food Program. I

23:31

know you've been doing a lot of other

23:33

important work in other places around the world

23:35

such as Sudan and Haiti. What

23:37

are your hopes for what needs to

23:40

be accomplished in those places during your

23:42

second year on this job? Well,

23:46

I'm hoping that the world does not

23:48

lose track of these countries

23:50

that are in such desperate need.

23:52

Right now Gaza is getting all

23:54

the attention and understandably. We cannot

23:56

forget Sudan, DRC Congo,

23:59

Somalia, Yemen, Haiti,

24:01

as you mentioned. These are parts of the world

24:03

that are literally on the brink of causing

24:05

some even larger food crisis than are

24:08

already happening right now, and

24:10

I speak specifically to Sudan on that. Cindy

24:13

McCain, thank you so much for being here, and thank

24:15

you, as always, for the work you do. Thank

24:17

you. Donald

24:20

Trump has a new line of attack to try to

24:22

provoke President Biden. Should Biden take the bait? My panel's

24:24

going to be next. We

24:29

have an empty podium right here to my

24:32

right. You know what that is? That's for

24:34

Joe Biden. I'm trying to get him to

24:36

debate. I'm calling on Crooked Joe to debate

24:38

anytime, anyplace. We'll do it any way you

24:40

want, Joe, so that

24:42

we can discuss in a friendly manner the

24:45

real problems of our country. In

24:48

a friendly manner, he says. Welcome back

24:50

to State of the Union. Donald Trump

24:53

pledging to debate, quote, Crooked Joe, anytime,

24:55

anywhere, anyplace. My panel joins

24:57

me now. Congressman, if

24:59

you were advising President Biden, should

25:01

he take debate? This is

25:03

obviously going to be a campaign tactic. They even

25:05

printed out little signs to

25:08

try to make him look strong

25:10

and Biden look afraid to debate him. First

25:13

of all, the person who is usually challenging for

25:15

debates is the one who is losing, just in

25:17

politics. That's true. It shows that

25:19

Trump is not as confident. The second thing is

25:22

Biden won those two debates the last time. I

25:24

mean, you remember the first debate. Trump was so

25:26

over the top. He didn't come off as likeable.

25:28

So I'd say, sure, debate him in the proper

25:31

time in the fall. And I

25:33

think the president would do very well. What do

25:35

you think? You know, for a president

25:37

who talks about democracy and how important

25:39

democracy is, I think he should absolutely

25:41

debate him. The American people deserve to

25:43

see our two presidents who are running

25:45

for president debate on the world stage.

25:48

That's democracy in action. And so absolutely he

25:50

should debate him. But at this point, Biden

25:52

is not committed to debating him. He has said,

25:55

I mean, noting the

25:58

performance in the first debate last time. What? We

26:01

level set here. Yeah, go level set. Whatever

26:03

that means. This is the likely

26:05

Republican nominee who refused to debate

26:07

in the entire primary process.

26:10

True. Why? It

26:12

doesn't calculate a decision he didn't need to at that moment. It

26:14

wasn't necessary for the former president to debate against people

26:16

who were polling at 20%, 10%, 50%. What

26:18

would he be afraid of? What would he be afraid of? We

26:21

know what the strategy was. Hold on one second. But

26:24

also this president, this former president,

26:26

has refused to debate in the

26:28

typical presidential commission debate system. He

26:30

has pulled out of that. So

26:32

what exactly is he asking for?

26:34

We know that this is just

26:36

a campaign tactic. The congressman is

26:38

right. When

26:40

somebody is doing this, we've all been on

26:42

campaigns where this is a tactic. Typically

26:45

means you're losing. We know what he's doing. I

26:47

don't think President Biden is afraid of debating

26:50

him. But there'll be a time for that,

26:52

typically, post-conventions in the fall

26:54

where people are really focused and tuning

26:56

into the election. I don't think the

26:58

president is scared of anything. He just

27:01

sees what Donald Trump is doing and

27:03

it's a gimmick. Stephanie is right,

27:05

though, that generally speaking, you can tell

27:07

campaigns behind when they say they're calling

27:09

for 400 debates against Congressman X, right?

27:12

That is normal. But Trump isn't behind.

27:14

He's ahead in every national poll. He's

27:16

ahead in most battleground states. If the

27:19

election were held today despite 91 indictments

27:21

for federal trials, he's still ahead. That

27:24

says a lot. And the fact is that

27:26

President Biden is imaging support among African-Americans, among

27:28

youth, young voters, among other voters of color.

27:30

They're not excited about him. And then when

27:32

you throw in the slew of independent candidates,

27:35

RFK, Cornel West, Jill Stein, it doesn't

27:37

look great for the president in terms

27:39

of his path of winning the election.

27:41

So let's just have a consensus. Yes,

27:43

he moderates the debate. Donald Trump. There

27:46

you go. That sounds good. President

27:49

Biden isn't the only presidential candidate getting

27:51

votes, though, right now. There are, as

27:53

you noted, there are these third party

27:56

candidates, Robert Kennedy Jr., Cornel West,

27:58

Jill Stein, others, that threaten the election. Biden,

28:00

but we should know voters in the Republican

28:03

primaries are also turning out to vote for

28:05

people that are not named Trump. A Washington

28:07

Post analysis found that nearly one in five

28:10

Republican primary voters across four contests

28:12

Tuesday voted for an option other than

28:14

Mr. Trump since Nikki Haley dropped out of the campaign

28:16

after Super Tuesday on March 5th, an average of 17%

28:20

of those voting in Republican contests have voted against

28:22

Trump compared to 11% voting against

28:24

Biden. If you exclude low turnout caucuses

28:26

in deep red Southern States, Trump is

28:28

seeding an average of 20% since

28:32

Super Tuesday. There's still a lot of, yes, there

28:35

are dissatisfied Democrats out there and we see the

28:37

protest vote, but there are even

28:39

more dissatisfied Republicans. Look, it's early

28:41

in the process. So I, sure Michael and I

28:43

were talking earlier and these

28:45

people will absolutely come home for Donald

28:48

Trump. Donald Trump just had his largest,

28:50

biggest small dollar donations

28:52

in March, grassroots small

28:54

dollar donations. You know, the American people

28:57

are waking up to the fact and

28:59

they're, they're seeing and feeling, they believe

29:01

that our judicial system is

29:03

sort of rigged, right? Against Donald

29:05

Trump. Like law fair. Well, for

29:08

example, the judge won

29:10

merchant in the hush money

29:12

case. Donald, his daughter,

29:14

his daughter for

29:17

crying out loud raises money for Adam

29:19

shift and Kamala Harris using

29:22

the ploy that we will

29:24

lock up Donald Trump. Go ahead.

29:27

Look, I don't trouble keep raising

29:29

small dollar money on that absolute that judge needs

29:31

to recuse himself from that. Here's the

29:33

thing that the Republicans haven't come to

29:35

terms with abortion rights, the right to

29:37

choose matters. That's why they underperformed in

29:39

2022. That's why you're going to lose

29:41

a lot of suburban women and suburban

29:43

men. And this, the Florida decision where you've

29:45

got a six week ban that the judges

29:47

have upheld and you're going to have ballot

29:50

initiatives. I think the polling is overestimating the

29:52

support again. What do you think is going

29:54

to matter more? I mean, let me, let

29:56

me, let me, let me rephrase that. How

29:59

Much do you think that. The idea of these

30:01

investigations is actually going to help Trump not

30:03

just with his base but maybe with swing

30:05

voters are Independence is ahead of think is

30:07

gonna help now things odors, I mean the

30:09

polling shows If he is actually. Found

30:12

guilty and any of these cases.

30:14

the election mills significantly to President

30:16

Biden. I mean, nobody is really

30:19

questioning whether the former President you

30:21

toss money to cover something up

30:23

and in the. Pre and Twenty

30:25

sixteen election concerning standard an officer thank

30:27

you so we can help us that

30:29

wasn't sure which one of us up

30:32

there were committing a couple other on.

30:34

If you know the voters don't have an

30:36

open question on that, he did do that.

30:38

Now he thing held accountable for it, but

30:40

that's not the only thing he's being held

30:42

accountable for if he if guilty and any

30:44

of these cases he isn't always about. It

30:47

and these people probably wouldn't be

30:49

with him anyway. His deep magda

30:51

base. Don't. Care about the full. Court

30:54

cases. They do think the justice system.

30:57

Is. Weaponized against them. Those aren't

30:59

the far biden voters. And those

31:02

arts, those aren't technically trump voters,

31:04

either. Or later they my way and they they might

31:06

Robert Kennedy Jr. Voters in his remark on one is that

31:08

your position on this because we had of with a. Focus

31:11

Group of Runner on the other day on

31:13

our show. and what about somebody runs Focus

31:16

Groups Saying that that she's actually those actually

31:18

think that maybe he's gonna hurt or rpg

31:20

your skin's is might hurt Trump more. Than.

31:22

It hurts or. Five. And

31:24

then just.on Friday Arc a junior raise the

31:27

possibility that the attack on the Capital Ones

31:29

and were six twenty one One was not

31:31

a true insurrection. he said quotes. It's quite

31:33

clear that many of a generous it's protesters

31:35

broke the law in what may have started

31:37

as a protest for turn into a rice.

31:40

I've not examine the evidence and detail, but

31:42

reasonable people including Trump opponents tell me there

31:44

is little evidence of a true insurrection. I'm

31:46

concerned about the possibilities, the political objectives motivated

31:48

to vigor of the prosecution of the junior

31:50

six defendants, their long sentences in their hearts,

31:53

Treatments one can as. I do a post

31:55

Donald Trump annoy sanford. Still be disturbed

31:57

by the weaponization of government. Against him

31:59

with them, the company or if you know I mean.

32:01

Some. People believe have an arcade you use

32:03

a democrat. he's not a conservative or Trump's

32:06

if I do what he is. Frankly, Trump

32:08

supporters are not going to abandon their guide

32:10

and walk off a cliff as admit getting

32:12

Donald Trump back into the White House. Not.

32:14

here's a bit of math here. So Twenty

32:16

sixteen, Donald Trump won the election eighty eight

32:19

percent national Republican support and Twenty Twenty receive

32:21

ninety four percent to President by ninety six

32:23

percent. If present abides is a decrease below

32:25

ninety four percent of Democrats support nationally. Trump

32:27

can maintain that ninety four percent from twenty

32:29

twenties. He absolutely gets back into the White

32:32

House and a current mass today. Show case

32:34

of that path does exist. Somewhat worried about

32:36

our of cake. So. The only

32:38

reason President Trump one in

32:41

twenty sixteen is because of

32:43

third party candidates and sees

32:45

himself has admitted that Rfk

32:47

helped him. Canada. See

32:49

this time ago. Now as of

32:51

now the only way he will

32:53

win is if a third party

32:55

is taking those away from President

32:57

Biden. because let's be real present

32:59

a former President Trump space. Is.

33:01

Not going to grow. It is what it

33:03

is. He has. No, he's hit his ceiling.

33:06

For. Rfk. You

33:08

know I mean. Yes,

33:11

I guess in the past season a democrat

33:13

I don't know what he is now other

33:15

than a conspiratorial. As. A liar.

33:18

At the now we know concerned. That I mean, I

33:20

think he's trying to have it was. A very very

33:22

well on the policies. With someone who

33:24

was there on gender issue for Rfk,

33:26

I have talked about that as protests

33:28

when people are indulging the capital's whether

33:30

hitting police officers. I mean there should

33:33

just be consensus that's wrong is and

33:35

sad Get both Son of. In

33:37

our cities across the country as well. Works well

33:39

for being here is loneliness of the game.

33:41

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33:43

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33:50

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34:25

ever politics is always like to say

34:27

that whatever raise they're right. Running at

34:29

that moment is the most important election

34:31

of our lifetime. This.

34:34

Election could actually be true. Genius!

34:36

Not as far as I've seen. An

34:38

Anchor for reads. The card is off

34:40

author the also the author of a

34:42

great brand new book called Age of

34:44

Revolutions, Progress and Backlash from sixteen hundred.

34:47

To. The Present which debuted this week on the

34:49

New York Times bestseller list. That number two

34:51

are I pretty much the of the number

34:53

one in your book. You call this time

34:55

quote perhaps the most revolutionary period in human

34:57

history. I want to ask you about that

35:00

because this Us slice. Of. That

35:02

is really interesting. Recent polls show Donald Trump and

35:04

Joe Biden in the neck and neck raised in

35:06

battleground states. I think in a way to the

35:08

January Six, Twenty twenty one attack on the capital

35:10

lot of people. Would. Have been surprised

35:12

that then. That. We're at

35:14

this point today. How

35:16

do women. Are

35:19

will living through. One of the

35:21

biggest called for backlash is that

35:23

we've seen in history as as

35:25

it is a backlash against or

35:27

thirty years of accelerating globalization, accelerating

35:29

technological change, a huge identity revolution

35:31

and it's left a lot of

35:33

people feeling deeply unnerved when I

35:35

tried. What I saw in my

35:37

book is that that form the

35:39

steaks Now is this broad called

35:41

for Backlash with says you know,

35:43

stop This world I want to

35:45

get off and Donald Trump is

35:47

riding that wave. What? The

35:49

Biden people don't seem to recognizes

35:51

that this is fundamentally a new

35:53

called for war, this still waiting

35:55

for the economy to improve and

35:58

hoping that that will lift. In

36:00

our as a bit as it has

36:02

traditionally. but the problem is we're in

36:04

a revolution. appeared. it's a break from

36:06

history where it's all. it's all these

36:08

cultural issues now was Three Journal poll

36:11

last week. Jake said our number one

36:13

issue on people's minds. His immigration

36:15

immigration is is the core of this

36:17

new called for War. So.

36:20

We. Got these new economic numbers as week the

36:22

show. The economy is definitely strong, even if

36:24

a lot of Americans. Don't. Feel that

36:27

way. Although polling suggests a lot

36:29

of them feel like their personal

36:31

economic situations good, but they're worried

36:33

about the economy's writ large. Why

36:35

are voters more focused on immigration?

36:37

Van. It's. The economy stupid, which

36:39

used to be what people said about

36:41

politics really all depends on how well

36:44

pocketbook issues are going. With

36:46

the it's a great question it isn't

36:48

just biden by the With this break

36:50

between how people felt about the economy

36:53

and what the president's approval ratings were

36:55

had begun began with Obama that the

36:57

economy did boomed under Obama, the his

36:59

approval ratings never really went up of

37:01

down for up until before coven or

37:04

presided over pretty good economy. His his

37:06

approval ratings never been much and and

37:08

the reason it as I try to

37:10

show in the book is that what

37:12

you had over the last thirty or

37:14

forty years is a. Decline in the

37:17

poor importance of economics. Partly maybe because

37:19

we've become a kind of mass middle

37:21

class society. And the rise of all

37:23

these what would our social scientists got

37:25

Post materialistic issues it used to be.

37:27

You could predict where somebody would would

37:30

be polling will be voting based on

37:32

you know, how rich they wore, their

37:34

place in the economy. Today.

37:36

It's it's your views on what

37:38

I call the three G's god

37:40

guns and gays or that is

37:42

the strongest predictor of how you

37:44

would vote. So today obviously mark

37:46

six months since Com Os attacked

37:48

Israel. And now in

37:50

the retaliation for that in the effort

37:53

to eliminate some answers as humanitarian crisis

37:55

mounting gods ruff Gaza, Israel's vowing to

37:57

open this new. Fade route after

37:59

pressure from. President Biden. What?

38:01

Do you expect the next six months to look like? Do

38:03

you think this war will end in that period? I.

38:07

Think it has to end our

38:09

at some point. the the really

38:11

crucial issue is whether Israel is

38:14

thinking about what the political structure

38:16

is gonna look like after that

38:18

and is their strategy right now

38:20

helping to create a stable political

38:23

structure that has no Hamas and

38:25

it but is still stable enough

38:27

that Israel does not after engage

38:29

in another decades wrong occupation of

38:32

Gaza fighting insurgencies, fighting militants and

38:34

I worry that they're not thinking

38:36

enough. About that you know this as

38:38

an emphasis totally understandable to to destroy

38:41

Hamas. But while you do that, you

38:43

have to be thinking about the day

38:45

after We learned that in Iraq and

38:47

Afghanistan to our detriment. And as President

38:49

Biden as I think correctly, said, Israel

38:52

should learn some of the lessons from

38:54

the United States has mistakes. Fareed.

38:56

Zakaria. The book is age of Revolutions.

38:58

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39:01

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