0:01

It's. Only a kick. A

0:05

jump. A block.

0:08

It's only a serve, it's

0:10

only attack. or oh, run,

0:12

it's only for the fade.

0:16

After all, it's only

0:18

pressure. You got this?

0:20

Adidas? It's

0:26

Friday, April fifth. No one put

0:28

be be in a corner until

0:30

now. You start here: The

0:35

biden. White House tells Israel we've had

0:37

it. We are willing to reconsider our

0:39

own policy approaches here. This is as

0:41

close as you get to a straight

0:43

up diplomatic threat. Special Counsel Jack Smith

0:45

stares down the judge in the Trump

0:48

Documents case judge can just kind of

0:50

backed up will explain why this entire

0:52

trial now hangs in the balance. And

0:54

how did a crew of criminals walk

0:56

away with thirty million dollars in cash?

0:58

The idea of the right gear to

1:01

get in through the roof to go

1:03

undetected The to not set off the

1:05

alarms. The bizarre case unfolding in

1:07

Los Angeles far away from any

1:09

bank vaults. From

1:12

A B C News this is Start

1:14

here. I'm bread milky. When

1:23

you look back at early October

1:25

in the wake of the worst

1:28

terror attack and is really history,

1:30

it was clear how much President

1:32

Joe Biden wanted to support Israel.

1:34

Like that was clearly his instinct.

1:36

We will continue to have Israel's

1:38

back as you work to defend

1:41

your people. Immediately stood square in

1:43

Israel's corner and yet as the

1:45

civilian deaths skyrocketed is Israeli troops

1:47

made it virtually impossible for gardens

1:49

to feed themselves and as American

1:51

calls for basic humanitarian allowances. Went

1:54

unheeded. You could see biden

1:56

slowly but surely backing away.

1:58

leadership. Your I

2:00

say this humanitarian assistance cannot

2:03

be such through consideration. Or.

2:05

Bargaining chip. Protected and saving

2:07

innocent lives has to be priced. The

2:10

last couple of months have exposed a

2:12

little to. Plus the Biden White House

2:14

now has for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu

2:16

and one an Israeli airstrike killed seven

2:18

aid workers. This week it finally put

2:20

what was once a steadfast alliance on

2:22

the shakiest ground we've seen in decades.

2:25

Well, yesterday Biden and Netanyahu appeared to

2:27

speak for the first time since the

2:29

strikes in the some the simplest like

2:31

a reconciliation with more like an oath

2:33

of Make Them A D C T

2:35

White House correspondent Mary Bruce's. With us merits

2:37

do we know what was said in this meeting? What

2:40

happened here? Where. We actually have

2:42

a pretty good sense of what was

2:44

said in this tense roughly thirty minute

2:46

conversation. as it has been described us

2:48

as being very direct, very businesslike, very

2:51

professional on both sides. That's a lot

2:53

of buzz words, They make no mistake,

2:55

there was a real shift in tone

2:57

here and President Biden. a shift in

2:59

tone and potential policies from this White

3:02

House. President Biden bluntly told Prime Minister

3:04

Netanyahu that he has to take concrete

3:06

steps to address civilian harm and humanitarian

3:08

suffering, or risk the U. S changing

3:11

course. We are willing to

3:13

reconsider our own policy approaches year.

3:16

Depending upon what the Israelis do or don't

3:18

is. This is really the first time

3:20

the we're seeing the U S and

3:23

this president essentially trying to leverage Us

3:25

support to influence Israel's conduct in. This

3:27

war bread a some or we talking about threats

3:29

now of that puts sort of policy wise these

3:31

are threats from the Us towards Israel. Yeah,

3:34

I mean look, the White House has made

3:36

very clear if they are not changes to

3:38

Israel's approach to this, it is very likely

3:41

that the Us is going to change our

3:43

approach. Characterized as cause of this

3:45

I would characterize this call is

3:47

very direct. And in the briefing here

3:49

yesterday there were a lot of questions about

3:51

what this looks like as you can imagine,

3:53

especially what exactly is the Us looking. For

3:55

there are things that need to be done.

3:58

There are too many civilians being killed. The

4:00

rift to aid workers is unacceptable. Now

4:02

we have certain aid organizations that are

4:04

we considering whether they're even going to

4:07

be able to us continue operations in

4:09

Gaza? Lol. Famine looms. The White

4:11

House spokesman John Kirby made it clear

4:13

that they want to see a dramatic

4:16

increase in humanitarian assistance, opening up additional

4:18

crossings, and overall reduction in the violence

4:20

against civilians and certainly against aid workers.

4:22

That is what they are looking for

4:25

Netanyahu to do. The question is what

4:27

happens if he doesn't. Yeah, of wolves

4:29

with I want that answer. What happens if he

4:31

doesn't Because it's up to ignore the fact mary

4:33

that just this week's the same week that our

4:36

government is saying they're very upset about this or

4:38

government's also sending weapons to Israel's I mean is

4:40

that on the menu? what could change. Yeah,

4:42

it's a good point. Look, despite

4:45

the President's ramped up rhetoric, increasing

4:47

frustration and outrage despite his strong

4:49

condemnation. The. President has resisted calls

4:52

to limit or condition Us military assistance

4:54

to Israel and as you noted the

4:56

administration just this week approved the delivery

4:58

of thousands of more bombs that was

5:00

part of a previous agreement. Is the

5:03

President threatening to withhold a to Israel

5:05

is they do not make these changes

5:07

that I pressed the white as on

5:09

this directly me what happens if Israel

5:11

doesn't meet President Biden demand. Is

5:14

the President threatening to withhold. Aid

5:16

to Israel if they don't make these changes.

5:18

Not surprisingly, the White House isn't going

5:21

into detail just yet. For President made

5:23

it clear that our policies with respect

5:25

to Gaza. Will

5:27

be depended upon our assessment.

5:30

Of how well the Israelis make

5:32

changes and implement jesus as to

5:34

to make the situation in Gaza

5:36

better for the Palestinian people. And

5:41

the White House as they are hoping

5:43

and expecting to see some kind of

5:45

announcements are changes years. In the coming

5:47

hours and days, they are really ramping

5:49

up the pressure on Benjamin Netanyahu. Any

5:52

sort of a dustups you'd imagine with us

5:54

some some surf adversarial countries is your that

5:56

language But never never with Israel. or I'd

5:59

marry Bruce. Covering the White House. Thank

6:01

you so much Thanks man! It's

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8:25

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8:28

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8:30

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8:32

anything he ever did in office. Presidents

8:34

have to be given total immunity. They

8:36

have to be allowed to do their

8:38

job. This has been shot down by

8:41

judges at several levels of remember. there

8:43

is one federal case the has to

8:45

do only with the stuff he did

8:47

after he left the White House. Federal

8:51

prosecutors are in possession of an audio

8:53

recordings. Were former President Trump appears

8:55

to acknowledge having classified documents as

8:57

resurrected of they'd let us know

8:59

it's head of the Seattle area

9:01

is that ingested? If Trump has

9:03

pleaded not guilty to thirty seven

9:05

pounds related to classified documents, found

9:07

it is more Lago estate. Well

9:09

after he left office member, the

9:11

government tried for months to get

9:14

these documents back and finally resorted

9:16

to reading his own. The indictment

9:18

describes the documents spread out in

9:20

boxes across Marla: Go in a

9:22

bathroom or borrow. A shower. We

9:24

did absolutely nothing wrong. Take a look

9:26

at the Presidential Records Act. We did

9:28

it by the book. Perfect. For all

9:30

these reasons, this case has the potential

9:33

to be perhaps the most straightforward of

9:35

them all, and yet for the last

9:37

few weeks is really bizarre back and

9:39

forth as been happening between Special Prosecutor

9:41

Death Smith and the Judge Judge Eileen

9:44

Ten and seem to be signaling that

9:46

perhaps Trump was allowed to hold on

9:48

to whatever documents he wanted to simply

9:50

because he was once the President's yesterday.

9:52

this Judge. Bit surprising. New ruling. it's an

9:54

Ab sees Alex Malin is here to help

9:57

assorted all our Alex Before we talk about

9:59

this ruling yesterday. Can. You to back

10:01

up unexplained the legal back and forth

10:03

Hear Ye bread. So basically former President

10:05

Trump's attorneys and started to introduce this

10:08

idea that Trump should be immune from

10:10

prosecution in this case because the idea

10:12

that under the Presidential Records Act this

10:14

act that basically governs once President's leave

10:17

the White House, how they hand over

10:19

records to the National Archives That under

10:21

that Trump actually should have been protected

10:23

from prosecution over these classified documents that

10:26

he brought home to is Marla Go

10:28

States because by bringing them home. He

10:30

has designated them as his personal effects Now

10:32

Special Counsel Smith has obviously said that this

10:35

is an absurd argument and are Also,

10:37

they say that this is one that he

10:39

only adopted long after he was found to

10:41

be in possession of records that he should

10:44

not have had once they began their

10:46

criminal investigation into him. So we get to

10:48

this point where now Judge Tennis hearing arguments

10:50

on Trump's motions to dismiss L about a

10:52

month ago in a hearing and she

10:54

actually did seem to accept the idea that

10:57

there was no way that should be able

10:59

to dismiss the case. On those grounds

11:01

now move forward two weeks later

11:03

and she this is this really

11:05

unusual order where she basically says

11:07

i've once both parties and this

11:09

tastes for a present me with

11:11

a hypothetical jury instructions that were

11:13

really sympathetic strangely to this idea

11:15

that Trump may have had a

11:18

case here that T did designate

11:20

these highly classified records as his

11:22

personal a fast as it really

11:24

perplexed a lot of legal experts

11:26

who had been looking at those

11:28

arguments where she seemed to a

11:30

dismiss. This argument because this is what

11:32

like were people start going oh see almost

11:34

It's almost seems like the judge your wants

11:36

to dismiss this get like that was that

11:38

the tea leaves that a lot of people

11:41

were reading here that he was sympathetic to

11:43

Trump? Yeah and obviously this is a Trump

11:45

appointed judge and she has in many cases

11:47

throughout the entirety this tastes you know issued

11:50

strangely favorable ruling giving Trump's team or ago

11:52

extended time and we also note that she

11:54

has not said a new trial date in

11:56

the taste she supposed to the states is

11:59

actually supposed to go to trial in mates

12:01

and he is as the parties for alternate

12:03

trial days but she still has yet over

12:05

a month later not set another trial date

12:08

up in so basically the special counsel I

12:10

think had reached is boiling point after getting

12:12

these proposed jury instructions from her if really

12:15

was overly sympathetic in their minds to this

12:17

really what they view as an outlandish argument.

12:19

From. Trump's team. So what we saw

12:21

from Jeff Smith earlier this week was

12:24

an extraordinary finally where they took Ten

12:26

into task in a way that they

12:28

have not done in this case before.

12:30

They pointed out that if she continues

12:32

to hold this position they would seek

12:34

review or appeal her before the Eleventh

12:36

Circuit Court of Appeals and reminder that

12:38

bread that they have actually done this

12:40

twice before successfully back before Trump as

12:42

even indicted When Ten and appointed a

12:45

Special Master to review all the materials

12:47

that the F B I had seized

12:49

from our. Logo and A use the

12:51

exact same arguments to overturn her. Then

12:53

she was again during that same period

12:55

sympathetic to this idea that you know

12:57

what if you designated some of these

12:59

effects as personal that should be reviewed

13:01

by the Special Masters and they are

13:03

essentially in this argument. Taking. Back

13:05

to her the fact that she was already. Overturned

13:08

by the Of Eleventh Circuit Court of

13:10

Appeals and they will use that same

13:12

opinion to overturn her again if necessary

13:15

if she does not change course. Okay,

13:17

Wow. Okay, so so. Miss

13:20

people think this judge seems to like be

13:22

on Trump's side from everything they've seen. Then

13:24

the judge says hey i want you to

13:26

give me like simple jury instructions It's as

13:28

I just miss people were like oh she's

13:30

looking for a reason to be like these

13:32

jury instructions or bad on actually gonna toss

13:35

this whole case. I day think that the

13:37

judges almost looking for a reason to make

13:39

life easier on Trump They come back and

13:41

say we're going to challenge your logic, your

13:43

judicial logic. What happened yesterday so yesterday bread

13:45

just can't just ten a backed off. Tenant

13:49

issues this order. Finally, that does reject

13:51

prompts efforts to try and throw out

13:53

the case based on the Pr It

13:55

but again, bread In this order. She'd

13:57

rebuke Smith, the Council smith for his

14:00

finally earlier this week and essentially says

14:02

that that their demand to her to

14:04

try and state her position over whether

14:06

the Pr race is gonna play any

14:08

role in jury instructions. She calls that

14:10

demand unprecedented an unjust and she says

14:12

that she's nectar to do that. She

14:14

says at this stage in the litigation

14:16

of it's not appropriate for her to

14:18

take a position either way. But she

14:20

also says that if those special counsel

14:22

wants to appeal or up to the

14:24

Eleventh Circuit's they're more than welcome to

14:26

do so. And now we're at an

14:28

hour of through impasse. Brad. Because once

14:30

this gets into the jury instruction

14:33

lane that becomes on appeal for

14:35

Jack Smith. So I think he's

14:37

now presented with this decision where.

14:40

While. The same time judge can and

14:42

seems to be temporarily backing off of

14:44

this idea that Trump had any claim

14:46

of percent ownership of these documents. She's

14:48

also saying that know down the road

14:50

this will potentially come up as an

14:52

issue again and is that sustainable for

14:55

Jack Smith? Is this something where he

14:57

a police he could have success going

14:59

to the appeals court in advance to

15:01

try and basically have them order her

15:03

not to bring this issue up again

15:05

and events trial against very very high

15:07

bars for all of this for them

15:09

to had any success. In doing so

15:11

because it's just very rare for an appeals

15:13

court to really step in at this stage

15:16

of a trial or the case and overrule

15:18

a judge while they're trying to get this

15:20

towards trial. was white, had legal analyst sang

15:22

estimated just can't seem to back off your

15:25

but it also ensures that this case continues

15:27

on with her on the bench. Alex and

15:29

Emma thank you. Think about. It.

15:34

I often find myself. Thinking of Los Angeles

15:37

is like the bank robbery capital of

15:39

world. Nothing about movies like Point Break.

15:41

I'm going to. Say

15:44

das, We want our know what we're

15:46

for. The facts, money, not so much

15:48

and the setting makes sense because this

15:51

is a huge sprawling place with tons

15:53

of bank freeways to speed away on

15:55

and that forget movies. In real life

15:57

we've seen some of this country's most.

16:00

During get Away and some of the

16:02

deadliest police shootouts stemming from holdups we

16:04

yesterday we learned a group or criminals

16:06

in L A was able to walk

16:08

away recently with thirty million dollars without

16:10

a shot fired as it wasn't even

16:13

from a proper bank. A D C

16:15

Alec Stone is based in Los Angeles.

16:17

Alec this a thirty million dollars in

16:19

Haslett. What Where do you think get

16:21

that much money. This. Is the

16:23

thing? Brad, It is incredible to

16:26

find out that this went down.

16:28

Nobody knew about it for twelve

16:30

twenty four hours after it happened

16:32

on Easter Sunday. That. It was

16:34

so quiet. what happened in so

16:36

well planned it seems that they

16:38

were able to go when completely

16:40

undetected, take upwards of thirty million

16:43

dollars and leave, and nobody knew

16:45

at. this is at a facility

16:47

owned by of a worldwide company

16:49

called Garda. Which. Is a

16:51

money handling company. You see their

16:53

armored cars all over the the

16:55

roads. They advertise Volt services that

16:58

they say they will safely and

17:00

securely store accompanies cash that they

17:02

will count at the day will

17:04

do all the accounting of it's.

17:06

The. They hold on the money, they hold

17:08

on to precious metals in their vaults.

17:11

This is a nondescript building in Sylmar

17:13

area of L A where the armored

17:15

cars com at the end of the

17:17

night and they unload with they've got

17:19

whether or not bringing somewhere else that

17:22

goes into the vault and then it

17:24

is believed to be securely in that

17:26

room. Well on Easter Sunday. This.

17:28

Group The Lapd and the F B. I

17:31

say that they got in through the roof

17:33

of this building and they were able to

17:35

bypass the alarm system. In all of this

17:37

is like something out of a movie. They

17:39

bypass the alarm system never set it off.

17:42

Go. Into the vault. He. Had a

17:44

way that from the outside you wouldn't even

17:46

know anybody had been in there. and they

17:48

were able to load up on all of

17:51

that cash. And can you imagine? How

17:53

much weight? Thirty. Million dollars

17:55

in cash? What that would be like?

17:57

I mean, we're talking hundreds of pounds.

18:00

They are to figure out some way to get that

18:02

out of the building. Ended. Be able to

18:04

haul it away. Without. Anybody noticing? nobody

18:06

did. It was a perfect day on

18:08

Easter Sunday. Nobody was around and they

18:11

got away and until Monday morning. When.

18:13

The garden boys came in when into the vault and

18:15

said. We. Got a problem here Nobody

18:18

knew as and police say that there was

18:20

like a whole sound in the side of this

18:22

facilities that these got like owed would do

18:24

they. Blow. Their way in with

18:26

explosives or something. So there are questions right

18:28

now of what that whole lives and and

18:30

we don't totally know what that is. Did

18:32

they blow their way out? Is that the

18:34

way it's kind of looking right now? Or

18:36

when they were done? Say we're outta here

18:38

and and go that way. Or. Is

18:41

something else going on? The issue here is

18:43

Garda. He is Not. Responding.

18:45

To Daddy media questions they're not explaining

18:47

anything and we don't have the F

18:49

B I is now taking over. This

18:51

case is being seen title like a

18:53

bank robbery and as you mentioned L

18:55

A has a history of this. I'm

18:57

in two years ago there was a

18:59

big rig north of L A that

19:01

add maybe a hundred million dollars and

19:03

jewels and it's. Similar. Thing where

19:05

there was a a worker who was sleeping

19:07

in the cab it a rest stops another

19:09

worker was going to the restroom are getting

19:12

a cup of coffee. They. Didn't even

19:14

notice that they got burglarized and everything was

19:16

gone. And they have never found those people.

19:18

They don't think that this is related to

19:20

that, but yeah, here in L A not

19:22

just in the movies it is. It's flashy,

19:24

the way these things go down and in

19:26

these are big dollar numbers were and it

19:29

makes me wonder. alec you just mentioned these

19:31

these examples and none of them are at

19:33

what you'd call a classic bank right? It

19:35

doesn't seem like the ammo is to go

19:37

in through the vault of of the big

19:39

plan name bank. instead it's the bees more

19:41

vulnerable points or in this case I sort.

19:43

Of a private company. Lots of these are pride.

19:46

Bigger numbers, right? You go into a bank. How

19:48

much money are you gonna get you your brain

19:50

aggregate? Thirty million dollars of The Walking Dead. You.

19:52

Know that the General Bank that's on the

19:54

street corner. These. People had to

19:57

know what was in this building. Just

19:59

like it. The big Rig heist two

20:01

years ago. They. Had to know that

20:03

was an unmarked eighteen wheeler. They had to

20:05

know what was in the back of their.

20:08

We're. Being told by law enforcement. At.

20:10

Least this one will know about the other

20:12

one two years ago but this one had

20:14

to have been a crew the it and

20:16

the right gear to get in through the

20:18

roof to go undetected. the to not set

20:20

off the alarms from they had a really

20:22

either do a lot homework or have somebody

20:24

on the inside who knew something. the F

20:26

B I and the Lapd they think they

20:28

are sophisticated but who's behind it they don't

20:30

yet know yeah any other any where the

20:32

word on what is investigation starts to look

20:34

like. Well. The F B I

20:37

is taking it over initially was the

20:39

Lapd who went in and and took

20:41

the reports and said wow this really

20:43

is a burglary now the F B

20:45

I almost like a bank robbery investigation

20:47

other going to begin piecing together they

20:49

gotta figure out something this sophisticated in

20:52

this big it could be global. Said

20:55

to have a group that could pull

20:57

something you know, ocean's Eleven like this

20:59

off. Without. Anybody knowing

21:01

for quite a the that shows you that

21:03

the they got a lot of sophistication and

21:05

our sources are telling us they have no

21:08

suspects. They have no idea who did this

21:10

weather beginning to piece together right now or

21:12

and Alex down there in L. A crazy

21:14

story. Thank you so much you got it.

21:17

Thanks Read. A

21:21

one were quick break for me combat he thought

21:23

that was fishy. well this one will really keep

21:25

your hooked on last thing as next. To

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an end in itself. I need a sense

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they're selling off and I'm Sabrina Pulled. Someone

21:35

who doesn't produce four months of

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toddlers. And best said, We

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mans it out loud would ever need. To

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do. It.

22:06

One last thing. See.

22:09

That are some of the world's

22:11

most resilient creatures, But even for

22:13

them, this is overboard and. This

22:17

week, the Oregon Department of Fish and

22:20

Wildlife revealed that a truck carrying a

22:22

hundred thousand Chinook salmon crashed on the

22:24

side the road to drivers. Okay, some

22:26

of the salmon did die, but this

22:29

truck happened to crash next to a

22:31

creek. The vast majority of the fish

22:33

happened to flop into the water. Which

22:37

is good news right? for most of them

22:39

center going swimmingly book keep in mind be

22:41

Sam and were actually on their way from

22:43

a hatchery to a different river more than

22:45

fifty miles away. The salmon. Effectively ended up

22:48

being dumped into the wrong reverse. This

22:50

matters for a couple reasons. One is

22:52

because the him know how river where

22:54

the resorts be dropped on his part

22:56

of an indian reservation set for years

22:58

has had it's waters diverted by said

23:00

it really build dams so is part

23:02

of this deal with local tribes the

23:04

Us government agreed to always we populate

23:06

their waters with sentiments these ones will

23:08

now be missing. The other part of

23:10

this is remember sin and migrate to

23:12

go out into the ocean but then

23:14

they always remember the river where they

23:16

spent their. Juvenile lies litter on

23:18

the Macys ethic journey, sometimes hundreds

23:21

of miles to lay their eggs.

23:23

So they're traveling several thousand kilometers

23:25

in their lives within the combat.

23:28

And so it's a It's a

23:30

massive migration. Is

23:34

it when they're exactly this age when

23:36

they're known as Smoltz? It matters Weird

23:38

you deposit them out. locals are wondering

23:40

are we have a to have seventy

23:42

thousand Sam coming that to this random

23:45

creek couple years from now at role

23:47

be specific salmon or also known as

23:49

King Salman they can go to be

23:51

thirty two hundred pounds each. A lot

23:53

of this wildlife officials don't think it

23:55

was that from addicts. Next breeding season

23:58

they expect hundreds of extra eggs and

24:00

is random tributary and thousands for you.

24:02

Were in the i'm not a River

24:04

that they say. They do plan to

24:06

increase their shipments to tribal waters and

24:09

keep an eye on this new breeding

24:11

ground for years to come. To

24:15

think about though, any other trucking route

24:17

it's not just next to a river.

24:19

In all these fisher gone some fantastic

24:22

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