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[phil]: hey hey this is this sounds on final show the only show on the internet

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[phil]: in the world in the universe that will make your fucking ears bleed this week

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[phil]: we've got the news we've got really expensive fucking vinal according to mike which is

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[phil]: going to be fun will be right back [phil]: hey hey what is going on my name is phil bowyer as always from across

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[phil]: the vast open sea where the vikings once ruled is my brother from another mother

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[phil]: professor rock star extraordinary r mike sinson mike let singer of all bands past present

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[phil]: in future the fun is going on in this brand new year it's twenty twenty

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[phil]: three can you believe it it's twenty twenty three

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: mother sucker

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: that's all i had to say i mean ship already

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[phil]: already [michael_c_svensson]: fuck and were only getting younger

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[phil]: that's [michael_c_svensson]: aren't [phil]: true [michael_c_svensson]: we [phil]: yeah i mean [michael_c_svensson]: or that's that

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: that is true [phil]: yeah i mean [michael_c_svensson]: well

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[phil]: i mean [michael_c_svensson]: i can't believe [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: it i mean i mean a couple of years ago were sitting here we could

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: go outside because of carved we can go to shows who couldn't go through theaters

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[michael_c_svensson]: and movies or whatever [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: and i couldn't play shows with

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[phil]: why [michael_c_svensson]: my bands and all of a sudden fuck me we are like three years later

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[michael_c_svensson]: and we're still here [phil]: hm [michael_c_svensson]: and we have to deal with

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: this ship every day [phil]: uh [michael_c_svensson]: so i'm thinking we're digging

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[phil]: ah [michael_c_svensson]: deep in to music this year even deeper were going deep deep

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[phil]: we're going balls [michael_c_svensson]: deep under [phil]: deep [michael_c_svensson]: cover [phil]: bitches [michael_c_svensson]: i always wanted to say

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: that well since you know this year twenty twenty

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[phil]: h [michael_c_svensson]: twenty three it's hard to say what the fuck

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[phil]: i know it is [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

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[phil]: it's the future [michael_c_svensson]: especially in english [phil]: yeah

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[michael_c_svensson]: what the fuck i have to i have to learn english at some point fuck

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[phil]: well how [michael_c_svensson]: doing [phil]: do you how [michael_c_svensson]: a [phil]: do you say [michael_c_svensson]: show [phil]: it [michael_c_svensson]: in [phil]: in [michael_c_svensson]: english [phil]: sweet satan swedish

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[michael_c_svensson]: she get sugar [phil]: sugar pray okay

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah you see [phil]: okay well there you go there you go there's

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[michael_c_svensson]: there [phil]: your [michael_c_svensson]: we go [phil]: swedish lesson for the for the year so far

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[michael_c_svensson]: ah [phil]: and if you already know [michael_c_svensson]: so [phil]: swedish

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[michael_c_svensson]: far [phil]: sorry [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: tough ship

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah and if and if there was an english teacher out there who can teach

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[michael_c_svensson]: me to to speak proper english please let me know hook

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[phil]: ah [michael_c_svensson]: me up o d m or something i don't know i don't know where we're

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[michael_c_svensson]: to go from this but but still i'm thinking that twenty twenty three is a

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[michael_c_svensson]: year where you are going to see a lot of change on on the sansominal

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[michael_c_svensson]: podcast [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: and fil have some tricks up our sleeves and and if you have followed the

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[michael_c_svensson]: show you [phil]: no [michael_c_svensson]: know i've made my one of my dreams

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: come true i'm [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: opening up a record shop real live one where you have to visit me so

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[michael_c_svensson]: it's called the sansavinal record story it's going to open

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[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: up [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: during the fall so

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: pay close attention to this

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: podcast us a lot of cool ship coming up

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: well to i mean we're talking about vinal records on this show called on on

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[michael_c_svensson]: bina of course and there's a lot of stuff that

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[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: i've been doing [phil]: by [michael_c_svensson]: buying up stacks

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[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: of vinal records for for this shop and i came across

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: some pretty expensive records that i actually didn't

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[phil]: no [michael_c_svensson]: know that they were that

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[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: expensive [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: because there is a lot of stuff

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: that's been going [phil]: no [michael_c_svensson]: on with

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: price settings and so for last year i've been told

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[phil]: m well [michael_c_svensson]: so i had in the ball park i knew

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: that they were expensive so when i went on disgogand asked some friends i i

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[michael_c_svensson]: was shocked actually [phil]: m

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[michael_c_svensson]: so the first one i'm going to show you here

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[phil]: m give a

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[michael_c_svensson]: even [phil]: dose [michael_c_svensson]: though well [phil]: let

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[michael_c_svensson]: let's not go there just going to show it and the reaction from

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: fail well you know this is a band called song garden and this is yeah

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[michael_c_svensson]: i know [phil]: that [michael_c_svensson]: this [phil]: that [michael_c_svensson]: is [phil]: there [michael_c_svensson]: the [phil]: is no garden of sound like when i think of a sound garden this is

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[phil]: not [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: what i think of [michael_c_svensson]: no

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[phil]: it [michael_c_svensson]: ut [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: all the other normal people out there i don't know this is the the album

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[michael_c_svensson]: called [phil]: at [michael_c_svensson]: bad molder finger from nineteen ninety one

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: there's a lot of good stuff on this record but

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[phil]: now [michael_c_svensson]: nowadays you'll

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[phil]: have [michael_c_svensson]: have to pay between one

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[phil]: yeah

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[michael_c_svensson]: hundred up till two hundred dollars

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[phil]: what [michael_c_svensson]: for [phil]: the [michael_c_svensson]: this one [phil]: fuck for that [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

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[phil]: for [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: that [michael_c_svensson]: yeah you

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[phil]: jes [michael_c_svensson]: see [phil]: well okay [michael_c_svensson]: yes

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[phil]: i mean [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: why [michael_c_svensson]: oh

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[phil]: it can't be for the music so why is it limited run or what oh

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[michael_c_svensson]: come on man [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: you see and the other one who this is actually an album that you really

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[michael_c_svensson]: like [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: an also a shocker for me when it comes to price setting

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[phil]: oh yes [michael_c_svensson]: queen's rise peris operation mind crime

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[phil]: great [michael_c_svensson]: also [phil]: record [michael_c_svensson]: from [phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: nineteen eighty eight it's a great record

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[phil]: ah [michael_c_svensson]: i agree [phil]: but [michael_c_svensson]: but this one between fifty and hundred dollars

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[phil]: okay that i can see that i can see

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[michael_c_svensson]: going going back like [phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: three four

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[phil]: o years [michael_c_svensson]: years you can [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: easily find this one for like twenty thirty

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[phil]: he [michael_c_svensson]: dollars easily [phil]: yes m

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[michael_c_svensson]: easily at the lowest it's fifty dollars i think the highest it's over hundred dollars

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[michael_c_svensson]: so [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: between fifty and hundred just to make sure that

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: we're [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: on [phil]: dad [michael_c_svensson]: the right track but [phil]: now these prices that you're quoting are they

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: for original pressings or just

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[michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: okay [michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: all right so these [michael_c_svensson]: there [phil]: are for [michael_c_svensson]: are [phil]: originals

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[michael_c_svensson]: original [phil]: got okay [michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: regardless

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: regardless of country [michael_c_svensson]: uh

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[phil]: or like we're talking [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: for in the case of queen's rike us

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[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: right [michael_c_svensson]: m yes [phil]: okay

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[michael_c_svensson]: there [phil]: their [michael_c_svensson]: is between like let's say ten to thirty dollars

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[phil]: okay [michael_c_svensson]: this is european pressing

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[phil]: okay [michael_c_svensson]: mostly of the stuff that i am going to show her what is european pressing

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[michael_c_svensson]: otherwise [phil]: the bit [michael_c_svensson]: i will say it's [phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: it's a u s pressing

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: so but there is not a big difference between

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[phil]: ah [michael_c_svensson]: these bands [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: when it comes to two pressings from different countries

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[phil]: we should do an episode on on that record we've never done queens

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: on the show [michael_c_svensson]: oh no we haven't

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[phil]: no we [michael_c_svensson]: fucking [phil]: haven't [michael_c_svensson]: hell [phil]: and [michael_c_svensson]: oh

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[phil]: in that that record [michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: especially that that's a great the warning well the e p the warning and this

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[phil]: one are my three favorites from queen's rike so

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: cool

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[phil]: so yeah i think we we [michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: we need [michael_c_svensson]: and [phil]: we need [michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: to [michael_c_svensson]: got [phil]: talk [michael_c_svensson]: some

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[phil]: about this one oh [michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah and i got some stories

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[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: about jeff tate [phil]: okay cool

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[michael_c_svensson]: and his wife [phil]: and his wife [michael_c_svensson]: and his wife [phil]: oh

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[michael_c_svensson]: and their manager [phil]: okay

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[michael_c_svensson]: some good stuff [phil]: wow [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: or gay stay tuned

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah and this one [phil]: ay [michael_c_svensson]: i don't know if you know them it's a swedish band

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[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: from gothenburg called ever grey

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[phil]: uh seems familiar [michael_c_svensson]: yep

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[phil]: but i'm going [michael_c_svensson]: they [phil]: to have to say no [michael_c_svensson]: yeah they've been around for quite

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[phil]: so [michael_c_svensson]: some [phil]: look [michael_c_svensson]: time pretty popular here in sweden bentoriin the world

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: and this [phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: one it's called hims for the

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[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: broken [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: actually ship my pants

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[phil]: m oh [michael_c_svensson]: uh between one hundred and fifty two like

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[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: two fifty three hundred dollars it's only been printing in like

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[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: a couple of hundred

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[phil]: okay so it's a limited [michael_c_svensson]: copies [phil]: run so that's why

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[michael_c_svensson]: it's [phil]: okay [michael_c_svensson]: a limited [phil]: well [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: okay [michael_c_svensson]: so and this this actually is from like two

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[phil]: no [michael_c_svensson]: thousand and thirteen i think

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: fourteen [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: so and it and i said o what the fuck

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: it's a new record but still the amount

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[phil]: now [michael_c_svensson]: of money jes [phil]: has

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[michael_c_svensson]: and [phil]: my [michael_c_svensson]: but it's it's it's

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[phil]: like [michael_c_svensson]: like a friend of mine who is also collector said it's only worth

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[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: this if people [phil]: right [michael_c_svensson]: pay money

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[phil]: true [michael_c_svensson]: so [phil]: very true [michael_c_svensson]: the price set things are really hard to do and determine the

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[phil]: but [michael_c_svensson]: value of stuff i mean for me

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[phil]: oh

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[michael_c_svensson]: japan is pressing from from them [phil]: you

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[michael_c_svensson]: kiss [phil]: do yeah [michael_c_svensson]: in the early

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[phil]: o [michael_c_svensson]: seventies means more

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[phil]: work [michael_c_svensson]: to me as as as a person that than it does for you because

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: it's a sentimental value for me so

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[phil]: right [michael_c_svensson]: it's it's really hard to know

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[phil]: what [michael_c_svensson]: what's what records are worth

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[phil]: by [michael_c_svensson]: but on [phil]: the [michael_c_svensson]: the other hand it's it's always fun go on diskogson and talk to people about

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[michael_c_svensson]: the value of records nowadays and and well people are paying a ship

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: load of money for records these days and

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[phil]: hm [michael_c_svensson]: it's in u oration also and

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: they [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: are discovering vinal records

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: in a way [phil]: he [michael_c_svensson]: that you and

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[phil]: at [michael_c_svensson]: i i mean we took stuff granted growing up because it was cast tapes and

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[michael_c_svensson]: vinal records [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and seven inch and seven inch singles that that's it we didn't have cads within

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[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: the streaming [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: we didn't have pods and what not so we had to

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: to rely on the physical format

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and and and what not so

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[phil]: people [michael_c_svensson]: people i mean kids nowadays they tend to pay well

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: steep prices for for final record so

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: i don't know i think it's a bit much

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: i'm i'm a sheep skate [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: when it comes to to stuff like

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: that i but but it's it's hard when you paid like

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: when you have like a kiss album from from the early seventies let's say destroyer

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[michael_c_svensson]: and you normally pay

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[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: around like twenty we need twenty five dollars for for that and nowadays you have

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[michael_c_svensson]: to pay between forty and sixty the same album

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and back tracking like five six

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[phil]: you [michael_c_svensson]: years ago it's i mean it's a it's a hundred percent increase when it comes

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[michael_c_svensson]: to to the price settings today so it's it's not but hey i don't know

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[michael_c_svensson]: i don't know what's going on [phil]: yeah you're you're one of those dudes that i think if you were rich you'd

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[phil]: be like [michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: you know how j leno has like this he's got like a thousand different kinds

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[phil]: of cars and stuff like he collects these cars and has like this garage full

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[phil]: of cars [michael_c_svensson]: a [phil]: i think you would have a garage [michael_c_svensson]: hm [phil]: full of vinal records

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: that [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: would be you [michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: you were rich and [michael_c_svensson]: oh

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[phil]: had that kind of money and you'd be spending

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[michael_c_svensson]: without a [phil]: the [michael_c_svensson]: doubt [phil]: five hundred thousand dollars on these records and ship you know m h

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[michael_c_svensson]: well yeah [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: and that's why i

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: am starting a record story [phil]: we [michael_c_svensson]: so i can look at a lot of albums

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[phil]: there you go there you go [michael_c_svensson]: both

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[phil]: and [michael_c_svensson]: at home and in the shop [phil]: yeah and get a discount on records right buy a whole

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: sale [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and then [michael_c_svensson]: you [phil]: you get [michael_c_svensson]: see [phil]: to discount you get them cheap

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh man [phil]: there you go [michael_c_svensson]: all right so that's it

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[phil]: that's it that's what you got man that's that's [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

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[phil]: some crazy ship some

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[michael_c_svensson]: it [phil]: crazy [michael_c_svensson]: is [phil]: ship [michael_c_svensson]: it is actually [phil]: all right let's talk about you you mentioned some of these older bands like kiss

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[michael_c_svensson]: do [phil]: we'll talk about kiss here in a little bit but

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[michael_c_svensson]: hm [phil]: we've been talking about some of these [michael_c_svensson]: taking a [phil]: you know like should these bands give it up like death leopard and motley crew

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[phil]: and all that i think the

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[michael_c_svensson]: h [phil]: definitive answer [michael_c_svensson]: m i [phil]: is absolutely fucking not if you judge based on they were the most profitable

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[michael_c_svensson]: the [phil]: tours [michael_c_svensson]: most [phil]: in twenty [michael_c_svensson]: able [phil]: twenty two [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

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[phil]: it so [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: defleppert and motley crew tour made a hundred and seventy three

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: million dollars across [michael_c_svensson]: you do [phil]: thirty five shows

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[michael_c_svensson]: holy crap [phil]: guns and roses ninety three million across twenty seven shows

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: now [michael_c_svensson]: my [phil]: you compare [michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: that to legendary rolling stones

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[michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: hundred and seventy nine million across only twenty shows so

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[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: maiden [michael_c_svensson]: m as [phil]: seventy six million across

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[michael_c_svensson]: a [phil]: forty seven shows it took them forty seven shows to get seventy six million i

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[phil]: find that really tough to believe that's just crazy to

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[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: me that it took [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: that many shows [michael_c_svensson]: hm

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[phil]: and then are you a fan [michael_c_svensson]: a [phil]: of t s o [phil]: i'll take

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[michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: that as a no i'll take that as a no

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah oh

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[phil]: well they made i can't read that fifty four million i'm getting all the my

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[phil]: eyes are ship fifty four million across d eight

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: shows [michael_c_svensson]: man

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[phil]: see what i love about [michael_c_svensson]: what [phil]: t [michael_c_svensson]: i love [phil]: s o is you got all these metal heads right you got it's basically started

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[phil]: from savatage [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: the band savatage right

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[michael_c_svensson]: hm [phil]: on where i live [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: you've got all these religious

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[michael_c_svensson]: all [phil]: nut jobs right metal is bad it's the

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[michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: devil it's this it's that but they'll go and

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[michael_c_svensson]: hm [phil]: like spend two hundred bucks on a freakingtso ticket

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[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: you know and it's [michael_c_svensson]: hm [phil]: like you understand what you're listening to you're listening to the devil's music right okay

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[phil]: we [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: won't go there but but there you go so yeah that's some of the most

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[phil]: profitable tours in twenty twenty it'll be

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: interesting to see what twenty twenty three brings

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah oh yeah [phil]: yeah so

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[michael_c_svensson]: it's a lot of cool stuff [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: so but but it's it's crazy that you say i mean we've been

15:09

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: talking on and off about this it should

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: these bands call it quits or what but but it's i mean the vast majority

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: of people that goes to these shows i mean

15:25

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: they're they're i mean they're spending their money

15:30

[phil]: yah [michael_c_svensson]: and they want this so

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[phil]: h [michael_c_svensson]: i'm guessing i mean

15:35

[phil]: h [michael_c_svensson]: now

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: i'm i'm thinking to do it is like the personal

15:42

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: way but now okay people are happy let's leave it at at that but all

15:47

[michael_c_svensson]: right i have an opinion but [phil]: ah [michael_c_svensson]: but it's i don't know i don't know

15:52

[phil]: now you know it's [michael_c_svensson]: i don't [phil]: it's [michael_c_svensson]: know [phil]: it's you know i think

15:57

[michael_c_svensson]: i think [phil]: the number one grossing band tour wise was i don't know if it's it's a

16:02

[phil]: person or if it's a band called bad bunny or something like that

16:06

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: and i don't [michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: remember the exact [michael_c_svensson]: don't [phil]: number [michael_c_svensson]: remember [phil]: but [michael_c_svensson]: the

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[phil]: it was somewhere [michael_c_svensson]: number [phil]: in the [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: neighborhood of three hundred and seventy three million or something like that that they made

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: i'm like that's [michael_c_svensson]: am [phil]: insane that's insane

16:18

[michael_c_svensson]: never [phil]: i've [michael_c_svensson]: heard [phil]: never [michael_c_svensson]: of them [phil]: heard of this and for them to make you know that much on a tour

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[phil]: is just crazy and then but but [michael_c_svensson]: bad bunny

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[phil]: bad bunny i think [michael_c_svensson]: damn

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[phil]: i don't know [michael_c_svensson]: in hell yeah [phil]: i don't

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[michael_c_svensson]: that's [phil]: know [michael_c_svensson]: a [phil]: man [michael_c_svensson]: ship bend name [phil]: well

16:36

[michael_c_svensson]: well it is it is

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[phil]: it is [michael_c_svensson]: i don't know [phil]: but it's it's i [michael_c_svensson]: it [phil]: don't

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[michael_c_svensson]: is [phil]: know it's interesting though that you've got some of these old or bands though like

16:44

[phil]: crew and and deffleperd i mean i know duff lepers still putting out music but

16:49

[phil]: um [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: well if you want to call it music

16:52

[michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: um [michael_c_svensson]: oh oh

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[phil]: but but that that they're still able to rake up the dope and what was

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[phil]: interesting is [michael_c_svensson]: we [phil]: on this article that i read lika wasn't on it

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: so i don't know if they [michael_c_svensson]: so [phil]: were just [michael_c_svensson]: i don't

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[phil]: really [michael_c_svensson]: know [phil]: low i didn't there was a full list that i didn't i read but when

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[phil]: i was preparing for the shot and go back to it um so i don't

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[phil]: know where metallic [michael_c_svensson]: i don't [phil]: was [michael_c_svensson]: know [phil]: on that list but i got to imagine they were pretty high on that list

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[phil]: so [michael_c_svensson]: they have to be

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[phil]: he [michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: have [michael_c_svensson]: don't know [phil]: to be [michael_c_svensson]: but but it's yeah [phil]: but anyway

17:24

[michael_c_svensson]: that's crazy [phil]: that's crazy [michael_c_svensson]: yeah speaking of older bands did you see the post at mickidi did to

17:33

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: celebrate lami on on i mean it's like seven years since he passed

17:39

[phil]: i know i can't believe it's seven [michael_c_svensson]: h [phil]: years already [michael_c_svensson]: h no

17:41

[phil]: jesus [michael_c_svensson]: no it's nuts and even though

17:46

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: that he is touring with the scorpions at the

17:50

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: moment there was he there was a whole story that that he wrote it was

17:56

[michael_c_svensson]: really sentimental to read but but it's i mean for

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: i mean since like the early nineties up until lem passed away like seven years

18:07

[michael_c_svensson]: ago he was a member of motor head and is a big part of his

18:11

[michael_c_svensson]: life and he did a very very nice celebration to let me

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and it was really really cool to see

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: and it's i mean

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: i think that the quote was at the end don't don't cry over your beer

18:34

[michael_c_svensson]: drink it or something like that [phil]: love it

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[michael_c_svensson]: and signed lammy so so i mean we should celebrate people like that and i

18:44

[michael_c_svensson]: think that that micky did a really nice thing to

18:49

[phil]: hm [michael_c_svensson]: remember lammy i mean were me and my son the other day we

18:57

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: spoke about this and and [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: all the big bands that he's discovering

19:04

[phil]: but [michael_c_svensson]: has a chance to see at the moment i mean he's seen kiss already alice

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[michael_c_svensson]: cooper maiden saxon

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: it wants to see you as priest we're going to see metallic

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and next year and [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: so forth and

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: and [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: i told them we should do this now because we don't know when when they

19:30

[michael_c_svensson]: are calling it quits for good we went to see kiss um last year and

19:39

[michael_c_svensson]: and said this is this is it is the end of the road it's no

19:44

[michael_c_svensson]: more kiss after this [phil]: maybe [michael_c_svensson]: and

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[phil]: maybe teaser [michael_c_svensson]: maybe yeah [phil]: teaser [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: i've got

19:48

[michael_c_svensson]: these [phil]: a story [michael_c_svensson]: are [phil]: about [michael_c_svensson]: tsar [phil]: i've got a story [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

19:50

[phil]: about that [michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah but it's i'm afraid

19:56

[phil]: you should [michael_c_svensson]: but [phil]: be [michael_c_svensson]: but it's we talked about this so who's up who's next with the arena band

20:07

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and i couldn't figure it out

20:10

[phil]: on [michael_c_svensson]: i really couldn't figure [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: it out when when guns roses metallic

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[phil]: o [michael_c_svensson]: maiden [phil]: eh

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[michael_c_svensson]: well those are like the biggest names right now the flapper

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[phil]: hm [michael_c_svensson]: well at some point

20:29

[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: motley crew has been away for for a couple of years but

20:33

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: when they call it quits for good who's gonna who's next

20:41

[phil]: there is no body there is no buddy [michael_c_svensson]: no

20:44

[phil]: no [michael_c_svensson]: i mean so [phil]: bad [michael_c_svensson]: somebody [phil]: bunny [michael_c_svensson]: said oh no

20:48

[phil]: i don't know man [michael_c_svensson]: somebody said the food fires but but that that's not hard ark or metal so

20:55

[michael_c_svensson]: i'm thinking only [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: hardrockand mental at the moment i mean

20:59

[phil]: where are the food fighters [michael_c_svensson]: is [phil]: even still technically a band i mean we've not really

21:04

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: heard [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: anything about that you know

21:07

[michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: i know dave grol's been doing [michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: some stuff is his honaca shows but is there

21:11

[michael_c_svensson]: m m [phil]: you know [michael_c_svensson]: well i don't know but but there's a band that oh playing arenas

21:20

[phil]: hm but [michael_c_svensson]: but [phil]: i think it's

21:23

[michael_c_svensson]: i don't know [phil]: it's pop it's all pop it's taylor swift it's whatever i don't even know i

21:29

[phil]: couldn't even tell you i [michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: just run

21:31

[michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: from that stuff so much i couldn't even give you tell you he bandonebut

21:35

[michael_c_svensson]: but is there any any younger metal bents the cic

21:40

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: of maiden and and metallic or

21:44

[phil]: or [michael_c_svensson]: at least [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: under way to becoming the next big thing

21:50

[phil]: as much as i hate to say it [michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: i think

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: ghost has a chance

21:55

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: to get there [michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah i forgot about those

21:58

[phil]: um [michael_c_svensson]: i don't like them i don't like them at all

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[phil]: i like a couple of songs [michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: but for the most part yeah i'm with you this

22:04

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: this last record i don't even know what the fuck it was but um yeah

22:09

[phil]: i think there they've got us so i [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

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[phil]: think you still [michael_c_svensson]: they got a shot [phil]: you know but

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[michael_c_svensson]: ye [phil]: i think if i'm if i'm thinking like no there's really nobody

22:18

[michael_c_svensson]: ah [phil]: of that caliber that's coming up [michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: behind the metallic as pre maidens all these

22:23

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: it's

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: crazy to think about [phil]: m yeah i think

22:29

[michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: food fighters could replace [michael_c_svensson]: just [phil]: you tube and that

22:34

[michael_c_svensson]: ah [phil]: alternative [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: rock but i mean

22:36

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: those guys aren't aren't that young either though for being honest you know so

22:42

[michael_c_svensson]: davy is born in sixty nine so he's like two years

22:46

[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: older than me [phil]: yeah so i mean he's he's

22:49

[michael_c_svensson]: so [phil]: got another [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: twenty years [michael_c_svensson]: is getting [phil]: i guess if you know

22:52

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: um so i don't know man yeah

22:56

[michael_c_svensson]: i don't [phil]: it's a [michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: it's an interesting concept it's an interesting thing to think about because you know i've

23:03

[phil]: said this you know i've been shy about saying you know music me pretty much

23:08

[phil]: died in the in the nineties all the

23:12

[michael_c_svensson]: hm [phil]: legends that we had kind of went away and were replaced by the

23:17

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: soudan gardens and their nirvana and all that stuff

23:20

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: and in those [michael_c_svensson]: hm [phil]: bands weren't say what you want to like you

23:25

[michael_c_svensson]: what

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[phil]: can like sound garden and vana but they weren't the same caliber

23:30

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: as a priest or a maiden or led zepplin or a sabbath

23:34

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: you can have good music but not be of that caliber if

23:40

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: you know what i'm saying [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: right [michael_c_svensson]: yeah but i mean we we see say

23:46

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: that in in you and

23:48

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: i have a different opinion about those bands because i'm not necessarily

23:54

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: thinking that there are the best thing

23:58

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: i think there were necessary for the next thing

24:02

[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: it's sort of like

24:04

[phil]: i what [michael_c_svensson]: when [phil]: rot [michael_c_svensson]: rock the streets in the seventies

24:11

[phil]: so [michael_c_svensson]: some sort of like because i remember seeing in arana we talked about this seeing

24:16

[michael_c_svensson]: nevada on m t v and thinking ho lay fuck

24:22

[phil]: o that [michael_c_svensson]: that's the end of [phil]: okay

24:23

[michael_c_svensson]: the f t the poodle rock era the hair metal bands so so i was

24:32

[michael_c_svensson]: happy about that ah [phil]: yeah

24:34

[michael_c_svensson]: and all of a sudden there was more aggressive music coming on the scene

24:42

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: with all the death metal stuff that came out i was thrilled about

24:48

[phil]: so [michael_c_svensson]: so i think that's sort of

24:51

[phil]: like [michael_c_svensson]: like putting [phil]: to get [michael_c_svensson]: an end to all those poisons britany fuck

24:56

[phil]: oh yeah [michael_c_svensson]: what not it

25:01

[phil]: has [michael_c_svensson]: had to be [michael_c_svensson]: would it would

25:06

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: i be more happy if it wasn't another punk rock revolution of course punk rock

25:14

[michael_c_svensson]: music is [phil]: what [michael_c_svensson]: way cooler but but it was necessary

25:18

[phil]: sary [michael_c_svensson]: to make a statement sad enough of this hollywood crap we need to go back

25:25

[michael_c_svensson]: to the music to the roots guitar

25:29

[phil]: are [michael_c_svensson]: drums [phil]: the

25:30

[michael_c_svensson]: and a base guitar and somebody

25:33

[phil]: by [michael_c_svensson]: sinks enough

25:35

[phil]: no [michael_c_svensson]: of the keyboards enough of the glamor enough of the other crap that has no

25:41

[michael_c_svensson]: part [phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: of it says [phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: i who likes kiss but

25:44

[phil]: you [michael_c_svensson]: you [phil]: know [michael_c_svensson]: know what i mean so to tay that into the next thing for i mean

25:51

[michael_c_svensson]: say what you will about the music that came afterwards but all of a sudden

25:56

[michael_c_svensson]: slayer what [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: was relevant again in the early nineties

26:01

[phil]: hm [michael_c_svensson]: there were making music and people like

26:07

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: entombed and palm death at the gates and and what not they looked up to

26:15

[michael_c_svensson]: people like slayer and and those kinds of bands so

26:20

[phil]: he [michael_c_svensson]: it [phil]: was [michael_c_svensson]: was [phil]: not [michael_c_svensson]: not or it field itself i think

26:24

[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: so it was a necessary evil for you and

26:27

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: i think [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: it was a good thing so if you know what i mean if you know

26:31

[michael_c_svensson]: what i mean so but i agree to you

26:34

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: at some extent i agree with you but it's i could

26:39

[phil]: he [michael_c_svensson]: see that coming it has had to stop i mean the

26:43

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: bonjovis of arenas that i mean the

26:46

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: salt [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: fuck in hell a lot of tickets and it's a show and it's i don't

26:53

[michael_c_svensson]: know i don't know but that [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: but but it's

26:56

[phil]: well [michael_c_svensson]: well give it to me

26:59

[phil]: it is what it is man it is what it

27:01

[michael_c_svensson]: it [phil]: is [michael_c_svensson]: is [phil]: i don't know [michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: we'll see we'll see how it goes but you know

27:05

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: i think we can

27:09

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: the ultimate blame i think is on the record labels by not giving

27:13

[michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: artists [michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: the freedom to do you

27:18

[michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: know to be the next boy

27:20

[michael_c_svensson]: the next [phil]: or zepplin [michael_c_svensson]: we [phil]: or sabbath or

27:24

[michael_c_svensson]: hm [phil]: whatever you know [michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: even the eagles

27:26

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: to a certain extent right i mean that we just we don't have that that

27:31

[phil]: luxury because they need to sell because they're not selling anything anyway and so they

27:36

[phil]: need to maximize whatever they can sell that they need to sign

27:40

[michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: artists that they feel they can sell instead of looking go and this is this

27:45

[phil]: is awesome music and [michael_c_svensson]: post [phil]: let's make this happen

27:47

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: and let's kick [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: some ass [michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: and [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: let's

27:50

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: you know let's do this stuff and it's just not happening

27:54

[michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: just not [michael_c_svensson]: you [phil]: happening [michael_c_svensson]: should watch the documentary about sound city the record studio that

28:02

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: came out in the in the in the

28:04

[phil]: ah [michael_c_svensson]: seventies and and have recorded i mean rage against the machine nirvana fleetwood max stephen

28:12

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: nick tom patty you should watch that documentary on the analogue

28:17

[phil]: a boy [michael_c_svensson]: recording [phil]: yes

28:20

[michael_c_svensson]: and there as a [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: uh when when they

28:24

[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: went into to [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: the digital recording

28:27

[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: ah and that this studio wouldn't have anything to do with the digital

28:34

[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: sound the pro tools and the what not

28:37

[phil]: m yeah [michael_c_svensson]: they stayed analogue and

28:39

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: and dave gral he bought that whole console

28:44

[phil]: oh yeah yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and put

28:46

[phil]: i saw [michael_c_svensson]: it up [phil]: that [michael_c_svensson]: in a studio yeah yeah [phil]: when

28:48

[michael_c_svensson]: and [phil]: when the dude from a c d c i can only think of one

28:53

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: brian [michael_c_svensson]: brian [phil]: johnson [michael_c_svensson]: johnson [phil]: when when he did [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: that van tour thing that he's been doing

28:57

[michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: and he went [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and hooked up with dave growl and they went to the

29:00

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: studio and showed that that was [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: fucking epic

29:03

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: man i'm [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: looking at that going [michael_c_svensson]: and [phil]: i wouldn't even know what the hell to do with that that's

29:08

[michael_c_svensson]: and there's [phil]: to oh

29:09

[michael_c_svensson]: there's a thing in [phil]: and the

29:12

[michael_c_svensson]: there's a quote that that i need to address there is a woman working in

29:17

[michael_c_svensson]: the sancti studio wasn't the fanciest studio ever there was something about the

29:24

[phil]: yeah i [michael_c_svensson]: the atmosphere in there in there that made bands do all this great stuff and

29:31

[michael_c_svensson]: she said if you're not recording analogue you're not a real

29:38

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: man and this comes from a woman

29:43

[phil]: h [michael_c_svensson]: and and and i just froze and and i was alone watching this thing

29:49

[phil]: h oh [michael_c_svensson]: anybody hear this and i had to rewind and said

29:53

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: what the fuck so but that's

29:57

[phil]: well [michael_c_svensson]: and she was sad and disappointed because she has been working there for like three

30:02

[michael_c_svensson]: or something like that and i understand i had the privilege to

30:08

[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: to be able [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: to record on those reels those big reels

30:14

[phil]: wow [michael_c_svensson]: on on [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: on analogue tape

30:17

[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: and have [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: the producer

30:19

[phil]: no [michael_c_svensson]: go like this where you see them

30:22

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: cutting the tape by hand it's it's it's fucking insane every ber when we started

30:30

[michael_c_svensson]: recording dasatilly and i think in

30:32

[phil]: h [michael_c_svensson]: well

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[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: shut shouldn't we be in the room playing together now that's a new thing

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: you don't have to okay so we're recording separately

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: and we we'll

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: cut it up so it's going to be good

30:51

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and it's [phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: it's still

30:54

[phil]: what [michael_c_svensson]: mind blong today that we can still do this

30:57

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: but we don't have to pay for expensive

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: yes tudiotime any more we have our own studio and we can do whatever

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: fucking we want whenever we want so

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: without paying [phil]: yeah

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[michael_c_svensson]: ship load of money for it but [phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: i'm [phil]: just

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[michael_c_svensson]: just glad but i ve been able

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: to have the [phil]: it [michael_c_svensson]: fortunate to being recording on analogue tape so so watch that if you if you

31:22

[michael_c_svensson]: haven't people are there if you haven't watched that sounds a documentary

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: do it it's [phil]: do [michael_c_svensson]: it's [phil]: it [michael_c_svensson]: fucking insane do it now

31:30

[phil]: make it happen [michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: well

31:33

[michael_c_svensson]: what else [phil]: well we were talking about an iron maiden earlier and

31:37

[michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: and a couple of guys that you know or have met oh

31:40

[michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah i'm scaring [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: it right now [phil]: yes it is paul diana

31:44

[michael_c_svensson]: it [phil]: paul diano [michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: and gus g got together in

31:50

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: um i'm drawing a blank on the country greece got together in greece on

31:56

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: stage and gus g played guitar [michael_c_svensson]: hm

31:58

[phil]: and they [michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: played all the classics off the first two maiden records

32:04

[michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: and actually it sounded pretty fucking good wasn't bad

32:09

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: if you're not watching the video

32:14

[michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: like the look on mike's face is like

32:17

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: oh i have to say this i was

32:23

[phil]: m i think [michael_c_svensson]: thinking that you weren't going gonna go with kiss first but i actually watch

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[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: this [phil]: yeah

32:31

[michael_c_svensson]: just minutes before we started recording this

32:38

[michael_c_svensson]: i don't know i don't know what to say

32:41

[phil]: okay [michael_c_svensson]: i mean [phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: it's

32:43

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: paul diana and it's

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[phil]: oh

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[michael_c_svensson]: i'm lost for words i don't know what to say the dude is sitting in

32:54

[michael_c_svensson]: a wheel chair [phil]: yeah oh

32:57

[michael_c_svensson]: front and center stage singing all those tunes

33:02

[phil]: but he's out there doing it though man he's out there doing it i mean

33:05

[phil]: yeah that's not the [michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: best option but he's out there doing it i mean

33:11

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and it's got to be tough to sing sitting in a wheel chair too right

33:15

[phil]: i mean just the mechanics [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: of singing you know you could probably

33:18

[michael_c_svensson]: are you [phil]: speak [michael_c_svensson]: hearing yourself right now [phil]: oh

33:21

[michael_c_svensson]: he's sitting in a wheel chair [phil]: yeah

33:25

[michael_c_svensson]: isn't i mean [phil]: well you don't think he should be out there in wiltshire oh

33:32

[michael_c_svensson]: i don't think he should be out there at all

33:34

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: i don't know [phil]: h

33:37

[michael_c_svensson]: i mean if you're [phil]: h [michael_c_svensson]: not able to walk on your two

33:42

[phil]: h [michael_c_svensson]: feet up when it be time to call it quits

33:49

[phil]: you know i think [michael_c_svensson]: m okay [phil]: that depends i think that depends because i could i could say that

33:54

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: you know when dave growl broke his leg in the middle of the concert that

33:58

[phil]: you were at [michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: she should have gone [michael_c_svensson]: that's not the same

34:01

[phil]: but [michael_c_svensson]: thing [phil]: it it kind of is he went out there for the fans and the fans

34:05

[phil]: wanted to see that [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and he went out there [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and honestly was was he did he sound as good as he did in the

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[phil]: day hell no fun no not many singers do but he didn't sound that

34:15

[michael_c_svensson]: ah [phil]: bad i didn't think he sounded [michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: that there was some notes he couldn't

34:19

[michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: he tried to hit and couldn't [michael_c_svensson]: do you know

34:21

[phil]: but [michael_c_svensson]: why he's seen in wheel share [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: polyana

34:24

[phil]: because he's all fucked up [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

34:27

[phil]: he's all fucked up [michael_c_svensson]: he's [phil]: on

34:29

[michael_c_svensson]: so [phil]: his [michael_c_svensson]: fucked [phil]: own on [michael_c_svensson]: up [phil]: his own accord to i mean

34:31

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: yea he did it [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: to himself [michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah

34:34

[phil]: he admits that he you [michael_c_svensson]: the [phil]: know [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

34:38

[phil]: he's not [michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: you know he's done some things that are are less than respectable we could say

34:44

[phil]: um [michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: you know i mean [michael_c_svensson]: oh

34:46

[phil]: i don't know the guy i've never met him i don't know how he is

34:49

[phil]: as a person i know he's done something that i don't

34:52

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: approve of and you know [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: but

34:55

[michael_c_svensson]: i met him a couple of times he's he's a nice dude is a really

34:59

[michael_c_svensson]: nice dude but but it's [phil]: yes

35:04

[michael_c_svensson]: well well i don't know i don't know i don't know i met blake bailey

35:11

[michael_c_svensson]: too and he's even nicer but

35:13

[phil]: but [michael_c_svensson]: but it's i don't know i don't know

35:15

[phil]: but he's kind of like a whiny little bitch kind of like dave mistaine

35:19

[michael_c_svensson]: what [phil]: when it comes to motley crew and all that oh no

35:23

[michael_c_svensson]: who [phil]: never mind never mind [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

35:25

[phil]: don't the only i'm thinking [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: of somebody else never

35:28

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: mind [michael_c_svensson]: okay [phil]: never [michael_c_svensson]: all [phil]: mind [michael_c_svensson]: right [phil]: never mind

35:31

[michael_c_svensson]: so [phil]: ignore me ignore [michael_c_svensson]: okay [phil]: me [michael_c_svensson]: okay okay rip the bandage off with kiss why don't you come on man

35:37

[phil]: kiss well kiss is going to be around forever in

35:42

[michael_c_svensson]: ah [phil]: and ever and ever so

35:44

[michael_c_svensson]: fucking knew it [phil]: you know we've heard the rumblings gen simmons s mate has made comments about you

35:50

[phil]: know it's not out of the possibility

35:53

[michael_c_svensson]: the [phil]: that you know other people could

35:56

[michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: become kiss right

35:58

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

36:00

[phil]: people are like well now and then most

36:03

[michael_c_svensson]: the [phil]: recently paul stanley based ally said yeah yeah they can let me try to see

36:10

[phil]: if i can find the quote here um

36:13

[michael_c_svensson]: oh come on [phil]: m kiss is like an army

36:18

[michael_c_svensson]: like an [phil]: or [michael_c_svensson]: army [phil]: a sports team [michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: when the m v p is no longer playing

36:22

[michael_c_svensson]: is [phil]: or retired the team doesn't call it quits

36:24

[michael_c_svensson]: he [phil]: on a battle field [michael_c_svensson]: battled

36:26

[phil]: an army when they lose soldier [michael_c_svensson]: and the

36:28

[phil]: doesn't [michael_c_svensson]: soldier [phil]: wave the white [michael_c_svensson]: doesn't [phil]: flag somebody else picks

36:31

[michael_c_svensson]: some [phil]: up the weapon and runs forward [michael_c_svensson]: one

36:33

[phil]: so in one form [michael_c_svensson]: one [phil]: or another

36:36

[michael_c_svensson]: or another [phil]: i believe [michael_c_svensson]: believe [phil]: there will always be

36:39

[michael_c_svensson]: as [phil]: a kiss oh

36:42

[michael_c_svensson]: oh you're killing me right now fucking

36:44

[phil]: hey [michael_c_svensson]: hell [phil]: that's kiss that's

36:47

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: paul stanley right [michael_c_svensson]: man [phil]: there [michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah i know

36:51

[phil]: you know so kiss [michael_c_svensson]: i know [phil]: will be around forever so this may be the end of the road for the

36:56

[phil]: current line up of kiss the article did say

36:59

[michael_c_svensson]: all [phil]: something about you know maybe this is this this version of kiss will be

37:03

[michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: done and then it will re invent itself for another

37:06

[michael_c_svensson]: ye [phil]: round [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and it will just keep wing and go on

37:09

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: for ever and ever

37:11

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and ever and ever and yes i don't

37:16

[michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: know i don't know [michael_c_svensson]: no man you would think that i have an opinion about this

37:24

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: you think that but no

37:27

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: i i'm lost for words i've they've been talking about this for a couple of

37:33

[michael_c_svensson]: couple [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: of years doing auditions with younger

37:38

[phil]: oh

37:39

[michael_c_svensson]: musicians taking their place i don't know i don't know what's going on i mean

37:45

[michael_c_svensson]: in at the end of the road now they're coming back

37:48

[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: to [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: europe again and people are going you should see them again no i had my

37:55

[michael_c_svensson]: good bye it was emotional i said farewell not any more fuck it leave

38:05

[phil]: yeah

38:05

[michael_c_svensson]: me alone for crying out loud let me have this moment it was a beautiful

38:11

[michael_c_svensson]: moment they played like one of the best shows i've ever seen

38:15

[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: the somewhat twenty shows that i've seen with kiss

38:19

[phil]: yet [michael_c_svensson]: and it's [phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: don't [michael_c_svensson]: don't know

38:21

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: i don't know what's going on [phil]: so [michael_c_svensson]: i don't know

38:24

[phil]: so if they do re invent themselves let's say in

38:27

[michael_c_svensson]: so [phil]: like five years a new kiss for new members right paul jean all those guys

38:32

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: they're no longer of the band it's it's four new guys

38:35

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: would you give it a chance [michael_c_svensson]: hm no

38:38

[phil]: no oh [michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: okay interesting

38:42

[michael_c_svensson]: shan's maybe but i would like

38:44

[phil]: i oh

38:47

[michael_c_svensson]: close one of my eyes and cover my and and do like this if you're

38:52

[michael_c_svensson]: watching you tube right now i would do like this and maybe

38:57

[phil]: maybe just maybe [michael_c_svensson]: go take a sneak

39:00

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: peak but that's not kiss kiss

39:03

[phil]: what [michael_c_svensson]: for me is something else

39:06

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: i mean i'm still stuck in nineteen

39:08

[phil]: h [michael_c_svensson]: seventy three right before the day

39:13

[phil]: h [michael_c_svensson]: it all broke for them they went i mean it's it's i'm so fascinated about

39:24

[michael_c_svensson]: when they became kids when they were still roaming the

39:28

[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: streets of new york city and still played

39:31

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: at tennis twenty third street where were horse space were and the

39:38

[phil]: my [michael_c_svensson]: first album [phil]: what [michael_c_svensson]: hotter in hell the first

39:41

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: tour the second tour up to kiss alive i mean

39:47

[phil]: my [michael_c_svensson]: my [phil]: god [michael_c_svensson]: god that's kiss for me [phil]: hm

39:51

[michael_c_svensson]: it really is i mean i'm so happy about all the odor albums that they

39:57

[michael_c_svensson]: did in the seventies but by the other stuff it's i mean i love them

40:03

[michael_c_svensson]: till death i mean i still collect

40:06

[phil]: was oh

40:08

[michael_c_svensson]: the old stuff and i keep

40:11

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: my ear to do ground when when it comes to everything else that that has

40:16

[michael_c_svensson]: to do with with the band but it's no enough

40:20

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: is enough i had my good bye in twenty twenty two i'm so happy i'm

40:27

[michael_c_svensson]: so thankful for all the music [phil]: yeah

40:29

[michael_c_svensson]: but that's it that's it

40:32

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: that was the end of the road for me [phil]: see i don't agree with paul stanley

40:37

[michael_c_svensson]: i don't [phil]: i don't think it's like a sports team or an army because it's you've got

40:45

[phil]: with sports you've almost anybody

40:49

[michael_c_svensson]: almost anybody [phil]: could be trained to do a certain kind of sport right

40:54

[michael_c_svensson]: hm [phil]: i guess you could argue

40:56

[michael_c_svensson]: i guess [phil]: certain [michael_c_svensson]: all [phil]: extent the same thing for

40:58

[michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: music but i do [michael_c_svensson]: ah [phil]: feel like with

41:01

[michael_c_svensson]: white [phil]: music there are certain [michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: musicians um that just like eddie van helen and jimmy hendrix they just had a

41:09

[phil]: way with the guitar that nobody else did

41:12

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: they're sure there are [michael_c_svensson]: there are

41:14

[phil]: jimmy page is a great guitars but he's no jimmy hendrix right so i feel

41:20

[phil]: like it's a [michael_c_svensson]: like [phil]: bit different when you've got you know a sports team is like twenty sonat players

41:27

[phil]: right depending on the sport you you're talking about a band that's

41:32

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: anywhere between four and six

41:34

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: you know members that's a very tight

41:38

[michael_c_svensson]: that's [phil]: net and there's a certain talent that all messes together in a certain way

41:43

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: to create [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: that

41:45

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: kind of thing it's also very creative sports isn't creative

41:49

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: and army is not creative

41:52

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: it's you know music is a very creative thing there's a lot of stuff that

41:56

[phil]: has to come together to build a song um

41:59

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: and a lot of talent from [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: a lot [michael_c_svensson]: a [phil]: of different directions to create that music and so i don't i don't think it's

42:05

[phil]: the same thing and i don't think you get four different guys in there it's

42:08

[phil]: not going to be the same band it's going to be it might be good

42:12

[phil]: it might be awesome and might be the next arena band that we were trying

42:15

[phil]: to find earlier but i don't think you could call that kiss because it's not

42:21

[phil]: the same energy [michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: it's not the same thing right

42:24

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah yeah

42:27

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and [phil]: may [michael_c_svensson]: maybe it's because i mean maybe i'm afraid

42:33

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: i don't know but but it's i'm i well

42:39

[phil]: well [michael_c_svensson]: it's too much it's too fucking weird to think about it's

42:43

[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: too fucking weird to think about [phil]: yeah

42:46

[michael_c_svensson]: so but but you mentioned so i'm calling this to

42:52

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: halt college quits and moving on to you said

42:58

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: van helen [phil]: oh

43:03

[michael_c_svensson]: it makes [phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: me really [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: happy say

43:06

[phil]: it [michael_c_svensson]: what [phil]: was [michael_c_svensson]: you will but [phil]: but [michael_c_svensson]: still today

43:08

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: van helen and and edivanhalen's music

43:13

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and his d n

43:15

[phil]: thank [michael_c_svensson]: is still live

43:17

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: in his son i mean wolfgutn van helen i mean have you heard this dude

43:25

[michael_c_svensson]: play guitar talking about [phil]: oh

43:27

[michael_c_svensson]: divan helen i mean he's got i mean a massive

43:31

[phil]: eh [michael_c_svensson]: amount on his

43:33

[phil]: you [michael_c_svensson]: shoulders to come [phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: up with and near his father but

43:40

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: he is doing a great job is a really skilled guitar player and he writes

43:48

[michael_c_svensson]: all his music [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: yeah by himself

43:50

[phil]: no [michael_c_svensson]: place all the instrument [phil]: what [michael_c_svensson]: and

43:53

[phil]: now [michael_c_svensson]: now all of a sudden people are thinking that he is selfish

43:59

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: i mean to read the headlines about

44:02

[phil]: ah [michael_c_svensson]: he has to defend himself for doing it all

44:07

[phil]: hm [michael_c_svensson]: i mean [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: it's crazy

44:09

[phil]: great [michael_c_svensson]: to think i [phil]: okay [michael_c_svensson]: mean if you're

44:12

[phil]: watch [michael_c_svensson]: watching that tribute to tell hawkins the food fighters

44:17

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: drummer former he played

44:21

[phil]: like [michael_c_svensson]: some of the devon hail stuff i mean he's

44:25

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: a real musician and i'm so happy that he's

44:31

[phil]: now [michael_c_svensson]: out there doing this because like you said we need people

44:36

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: to to conduct their instruments in a proper to have that feel

44:42

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: where they where there is a drum there is a base guitar there is a

44:47

[michael_c_svensson]: guitar player and there is a singer if if the or if the guitar player

44:53

[michael_c_svensson]: sings [phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: don't [michael_c_svensson]: don't care [phil]: care but [michael_c_svensson]: but but

44:55

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: it's it's [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: it's meat and potatoes

44:59

[phil]: hm ah [michael_c_svensson]: there was a friend of my who who records stuff and he said you re

45:04

[michael_c_svensson]: you re a meetin potato [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: guy you want it simple you want it straight on and hell yeah i wanted

45:11

[michael_c_svensson]: straight on i had a hard time listen to to stuff that that

45:17

[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: it's too much [phil]: oh

45:20

[michael_c_svensson]: samples and too much all over the place with with

45:25

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: paterson and all that kind of ship i

45:28

[phil]: what [michael_c_svensson]: wanted the real stuff where you you

45:31

[phil]: go [michael_c_svensson]: go into a room together and and

45:33

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: you count count four and then you've fucking let it rip and and and you

45:41

[michael_c_svensson]: sweat there for a couple of hours now the rehearsal space and and then you

45:46

[michael_c_svensson]: look at one another and you think who

45:48

[phil]: whoa [michael_c_svensson]: this is sucking the greatest thing ever man

45:52

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: and to be able to see

45:56

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: wolfgang van helen play together with david and the rest of the band i mean

46:03

[michael_c_svensson]: taylor hawkins was [phil]: thank [michael_c_svensson]: such [phil]: you [michael_c_svensson]: huge friend

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: helen fan and to be able to

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: wolf gown doing those van helen songs

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[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: it's brought a tear to my eye have you seen it

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[phil]: no [michael_c_svensson]: oh it's great

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[phil]: i tried listen to some [michael_c_svensson]: it's [phil]: of that [michael_c_svensson]: great [phil]: stuff um was mammoth v h or whatever it's called

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: just i couldn't i couldn't get through it

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: so [michael_c_svensson]: okay [phil]: so

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[michael_c_svensson]: now i know i haven't listened that much to it but but i think that

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[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: it's it's he [phil]: no

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[michael_c_svensson]: knows his stuff and i'm happy about that uh he can really write some songs

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[michael_c_svensson]: and and and [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: play the instrument and he is a really decent singer too so i'm just happy

46:55

[michael_c_svensson]: about ow about that [phil]: well there you go

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[michael_c_svensson]: so yeah [phil]: there you go [michael_c_svensson]: you gotta get something else

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[phil]: i got one last thing and it's not [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

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[phil]: it's not on a positive note i'm afraid to say because

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: because we sort of talked about

47:08

[michael_c_svensson]: they sort of talked [phil]: this [michael_c_svensson]: about [phil]: i think it might have been the last show of last year or the one

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[phil]: before we're talking brought up

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[michael_c_svensson]: what [phil]: umarolsmith and stephen

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[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: tyler you know [michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: having to cancel all their shows and in vegas and

47:23

[michael_c_svensson]: mhm [phil]: stuff like that and you know are we beginning to see the end of that

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[phil]: era you know [michael_c_svensson]: ah [phil]: and as you know his tour keeps getting cancelled and he basically came out and

47:34

[michael_c_svensson]: a [phil]: said he just can't suck and walk any more and

47:38

[michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: you know [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: so he does he's not sure when or if he'll be able

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[michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: to tour he says that his mind is there and his creativity is there that

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[phil]: he can still write seeing and stuff like that but he just can't get up

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[phil]: on stage any more so i fear

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: that we're seeing the end of of aus o

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: yeah but [michael_c_svensson]: i think that been

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: in the works for like a couple of years [phil]: yeah

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[michael_c_svensson]: i didn't [phil]: yeah i think [michael_c_svensson]: really [phil]: so too [michael_c_svensson]: think that he was coming back well

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[phil]: ah [michael_c_svensson]: it's sad but but it's understandable

48:19

[phil]: the dude's up there and honest [michael_c_svensson]: do [phil]: to god like i said this before it's amazing that dude is even still alive

48:24

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and i mean [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: say what you want about the last couple of records he's put out i mean

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[phil]: the fact that he's still putting out music that's still better

48:32

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: than [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: some of the newer bands coming up in his

48:35

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: condition [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: is just insane to me

48:38

[michael_c_svensson]: it is [phil]: i mean this [michael_c_svensson]: it [phil]: last [michael_c_svensson]: is [phil]: record wasn't bad at all

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[michael_c_svensson]: no no no no [phil]: because

48:44

[michael_c_svensson]: but it's [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: well m [phil]: yeah it's a shame

48:48

[michael_c_svensson]: take a moment for let's take a moment for as

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: okay i'm done

48:54

[phil]: and also heard geyser butler's got nemonia too and at that age

48:58

[michael_c_svensson]: oh shit [phil]: neumoniais not that

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[michael_c_svensson]: no [phil]: good news so i don't know i don't know man

49:03

[michael_c_svensson]: i don't know [phil]: i fear we're at that age where we are seeing the end of an era

49:10

[phil]: come to a close [michael_c_svensson]: h [phil]: and [michael_c_svensson]: m yeah [phil]: it's not good

49:12

[michael_c_svensson]: i believe so too [phil]: but let's pick this ship [michael_c_svensson]: oh

49:14

[phil]: out man we got music we got [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: we got

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[michael_c_svensson]: we [phil]: fucking [michael_c_svensson]: get [phil]: music [michael_c_svensson]: music [phil]: this week [michael_c_svensson]: so this is another swedish band of course

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: since i'm

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[phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: doing all this but but it's it's this is great because we have we had

49:34

[michael_c_svensson]: the ones on friends

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[phil]: red [michael_c_svensson]: of [phil]: mark [michael_c_svensson]: ours a great fucking punk rock band

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: old girl band and this is another one

49:46

[phil]: ah [michael_c_svensson]: and i just wanted

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[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: you you should pronounce you used to say the band name it's in squedish and

49:55

[michael_c_svensson]: we've been talking phil and i how

49:57

[phil]: ho [michael_c_svensson]: how the fuck [phil]: at [michael_c_svensson]: do we do this do we

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[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: do it in english or in swede and we

50:03

[phil]: ye [michael_c_svensson]: both of it [phil]: right [michael_c_svensson]: i think so

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[phil]: uh [michael_c_svensson]: you go ahead and you start

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[phil]: uh [michael_c_svensson]: you only said you saw

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[phil]: a [michael_c_svensson]: the band name and and this is what you came up with

50:17

[phil]: yeah yurarta luck

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[michael_c_svensson]: i think that's cool [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: in in swedish it's

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[phil]: m oh [michael_c_svensson]: out [phil]: no okay

50:27

[michael_c_svensson]: and this is also an old girl band from from almo swede where i'm located

50:34

[michael_c_svensson]: and this is a really really cool band it's sour like

50:39

[phil]: like no [michael_c_svensson]: a mix between punk rock

50:42

[phil]: buck [michael_c_svensson]: music and a sort of like alternative

50:45

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: and with some goth feel to it it's all over the place but still they're

50:51

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: kicking s and

50:53

[phil]: hm [michael_c_svensson]: taking names they

50:57

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: i think they they started only a couple of years ago like i can remember

51:03

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: when when i started out but it's they played a couple of shows they are

51:09

[michael_c_svensson]: going to do release party for and this is we've been talking about this releasing

51:19

[michael_c_svensson]: full length albums [phil]: ah

51:21

[michael_c_svensson]: it it what was common when you and i

51:25

[phil]: it [michael_c_svensson]: ere grown up we couldn't wait

51:28

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: to get the next maiden album a

51:31

[phil]: hm [michael_c_svensson]: full length album [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: of course we bought some some seven in single just to to

51:38

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: keep it like like fresh and real but i don't know two songs you have

51:45

[michael_c_svensson]: to flip that one over you get tired of that but but nowadays to be

51:50

[michael_c_svensson]: current and [phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: in all this noise white noise of all the bands the releasing music left and

51:59

[michael_c_svensson]: right you have to do something different so single it's what's up these days

52:06

[phil]: h [michael_c_svensson]: if you want to if you're a mid range band and

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[phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: you want to stay current [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: release singles that's that's the new thing but listen it is they made

52:18

[phil]: i did [michael_c_svensson]: it even i mean quite different but still

52:24

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: with single releasing a new single every friday during two months

52:33

[phil]: oh hm

52:36

[michael_c_svensson]: every every friday you get a new single from this band

52:39

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: for for two months and and then they are having a release party on january

52:46

[michael_c_svensson]: twentieth to celebrate all these songs that that they released isn't that a cool thing

52:52

[phil]: i love it it's cool yeah [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

52:55

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: it's different and it keeps them current everybody

53:00

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: is talking about them there on social media and and what not there getting interviewed

53:08

[michael_c_svensson]: and podcast and so forth [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: because it's a different way to see to release music

53:15

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: ah and it's it's it's all in good fun i think

53:20

[phil]: hm [michael_c_svensson]: and and [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: well i don't

53:24

[phil]: oh

53:24

[michael_c_svensson]: know what to say any more i mean to b a to still

53:28

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: release [phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: music like this band us and all go band and kick the living

53:36

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: ship out of you doing so uh i mean we have to play this song

53:45

[michael_c_svensson]: it's called orbit from

53:47

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: phil what's

53:50

[phil]: god came pronounce [michael_c_svensson]: what's [phil]: it like you do your art

53:53

[michael_c_svensson]: yurartaor [phil]: you [michael_c_svensson]: at her

53:57

[phil]: at [michael_c_svensson]: is orbit on sunsonvinal podcast let's go late rip

54:06

[phil]: oh that's fucking [michael_c_svensson]: ah [phil]: awesome fucking awesome

54:08

[michael_c_svensson]: you see [phil]: you know [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: like

54:10

[michael_c_svensson]: i know [phil]: for those that don't know [michael_c_svensson]: those [phil]: mike knows this but for those that don't know

54:14

[michael_c_svensson]: just [phil]: way [michael_c_svensson]: now [phil]: back in the day that's how i met mike i used to do a radio

54:18

[phil]: show um we actually had several

54:20

[michael_c_svensson]: actually [phil]: music based odcast and there was a punk band

54:23

[michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: that had a similar vibe to this band and it's just i love it because

54:29

[phil]: like you said it's it's kind of a lot of different genres

54:32

[michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: all put together into one [michael_c_svensson]: yeah

54:35

[phil]: and they make it [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: raking a lot of bands try that and it doesn't

54:39

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: work they [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: somehow somehow pulled it off and made it work is

54:44

[michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: well dan yeah definitely

54:46

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah and and it's it's

54:50

[phil]: so [michael_c_svensson]: so it's so crazy because this is what we've been talking about actually for the

54:56

[michael_c_svensson]: last hour about the real

54:59

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: deal if you know what i mean [phil]: hm

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[michael_c_svensson]: i mean [phil]: m [michael_c_svensson]: for [phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: people going in to rehearsal

55:06

[phil]: i [michael_c_svensson]: space and and just

55:08

[phil]: ah [michael_c_svensson]: fucking let it rip and and they've been able to capture that on a tape

55:15

[phil]: ye [michael_c_svensson]: and and they released it and it sounds so fresh and it's it's

55:22

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: it kicks you in the ah well you know you know

55:27

[phil]: it's [michael_c_svensson]: so [phil]: awesome [michael_c_svensson]: check them out shake them out on social media gurarta

55:33

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: that's the english name and in swedish it's alta and they're for malmo sweden

55:39

[phil]: yeah yeah

55:42

[michael_c_svensson]: well take a listen to them they re [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: ononspotify and what not

55:47

[phil]: yeah

55:47

[michael_c_svensson]: and if you're in malmo around january twentieth go

55:52

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: see this band i've been and some clips on youtube and i'm going myself

55:58

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: hopefully there is not

56:00

[phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: a thing that i have to do that day but still fucking hell i'm going

56:05

[michael_c_svensson]: to keep my eyes open for this band [phil]: yes [michael_c_svensson]: so

56:08

[phil]: hm [michael_c_svensson]: give them some lot of hook them up [phil]: m

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[michael_c_svensson]: by their stuff and end well keeping

56:14

[phil]: yeah [michael_c_svensson]: the rock and roll or punk rock alive

56:17

[phil]: there you go [michael_c_svensson]: there we go [phil]: there [michael_c_svensson]: that's [phil]: you go

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[michael_c_svensson]: it [phil]: and before we get away from this old girl band mike and i

56:24

[michael_c_svensson]: hm [phil]: have been teasing the idea [michael_c_svensson]: m [phil]: of m

56:29

[michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: doing a [michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: female rock

56:32

[michael_c_svensson]: he lost [phil]: punk kind of special might

56:36

[michael_c_svensson]: so [phil]: be a documentary it might just be a sounds on final episode we're not quite

56:40

[phil]: sure what [michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: we're going to do with it but we feel

56:42

[michael_c_svensson]: the [phil]: like there's [michael_c_svensson]: i yes [phil]: a lot of great female musicians out there that really don't get the

56:48

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: credit [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: that they deserve and and

56:50

[michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: so we want to we want to do something to kind of put that out

56:53

[phil]: there so stay tuned for that as we kind of develop this a little more

56:58

[phil]: will keep you guys updated [michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: but i'm pretty excited about this i think it's going to be fun

57:03

[michael_c_svensson]: me too [phil]: all right [michael_c_svensson]: oh it's going to be great [phil]: and with that

57:06

[michael_c_svensson]: what [phil]: it no more [michael_c_svensson]: that's it [phil]: that's it we'll let you suckers get back to whatever

57:11

[michael_c_svensson]: but [phil]: it is you were [michael_c_svensson]: whatever [phil]: doing before you stopped everything you were doing to listen to this show because i

57:16

[phil]: know that's what you do every week [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: and we think you for giving us your

57:20

[michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: ears every week to listen to this show and

57:23

[michael_c_svensson]: oh [phil]: we really appreciate all the support and this year as mike said in the beginning

57:28

[phil]: we've got some cool stuff planning and a new website i keep

57:32

[michael_c_svensson]: he [phil]: talking about that it's just it's taken longer than i wanted but yeah lots of

57:38

[phil]: cool stuff in the works [michael_c_svensson]: in the works

57:39

[phil]: and so go check out the website sounds on final dot com you can listen

57:44

[phil]: to the episode subscribe [michael_c_svensson]: you [phil]: wherever you listen

57:46

[michael_c_svensson]: i [phil]: to podcasts and watch the video to onsonzovinal dot com

57:50

[michael_c_svensson]: oh yeah [phil]: so yeah [michael_c_svensson]: that's it

57:54

[phil]: that's it [michael_c_svensson]: yes [phil]: all right later

57:57

[michael_c_svensson]: later [phil]: oh [michael_c_svensson]: yeah [phil]: damn it

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[michael_c_svensson]: yeah