Get to know co-host, Bjólan "Whale Father" Holyoak and the intricate journey he's walked for the last 15 years. Take a peek into his life and what it's like to transition from a good lil' Christian boy to an internationally recognized shamanic practitioner and teacher.

Bjolan: https://www.theutahshaman.com/

Keaton: http://theruneshark.com/