0:02

From PRX Crann

0:30

and my dice. Oh my darlin' my

0:32

darlin'. That is

0:34

not a song. But, you know,

0:36

if you're confused, you say, What in the name

0:39

of dice? Dice?

0:43

And for the love of

0:45

cr- You got me cryin' at your

0:47

crayon rambles. Crayon rambles?

0:49

That sounds like something I could sell. Is

0:51

that anything like crann nubs? No,

0:54

even my brain was crickets

0:56

there. Crayon rambler. Crayon

1:00

rambler. I guess I thought this episode tonight was

1:02

going to be about one thing, but oh boy,

1:05

we're going to be rambling about cranns. Because

1:08

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1:31

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1:34

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2:16

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6:18

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6:21

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6:24

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6:26

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What do you say we slow down and get on with

8:22

the show? Hey,

8:24

are you up all night tossing,

8:26

turning, mind racing, trouble, getting to

8:28

sleep, trouble staying asleep? Well, welcome.

8:32

This is Sleep with Me, the podcast

8:34

that puts you to sleep. We do

8:36

it with a bedtime story. All

8:40

you need to do is get in bed, turn out

8:42

the lights, impress play. I'm going to do the rest.

8:46

What I'm going to attempt to do

8:48

is create a safe place where you

8:50

can set aside whatever is keeping you

8:52

awake. It could be thoughts on your

8:54

mind that you're thinking about, you

8:57

know, thoughts about the past, the

8:59

present, the future, thoughts

9:02

about meaning. Holy cow, no

9:04

thank you. I don't

9:06

need any, I

9:09

don't know, you're right, let's just move

9:11

on. Let's just skip meaning altogether. What

9:13

am I mean? I mean

9:15

thoughts, I also mean feelings, anything

9:17

coming up for you emotionally related

9:20

to those thoughts or that's left

9:22

over from the day or that's

9:25

anticipation of stuff. It

9:28

could be physical sensations, changes

9:30

in time, temperature, routine. It

9:33

could be work schedule or maybe

9:36

work a different shift or

9:38

you could be going through something,

9:40

getting over something, have something coming

9:42

up or something else. The reason

9:44

I go through all that stuff

9:47

is to let you know you're not alone. And

9:50

maybe you don't feel alone or maybe you

9:52

don't feel lonely but a lot of people

9:54

do. So that's why I mention that and

9:56

to remind you, even though this

9:58

is a podcast, even though it's kind of

10:01

a together alone alone together situation

10:03

that's actually very important and

10:06

I dare say not for me but

10:08

a powerful connection we get to share

10:11

like something I'm tentative to

10:13

bring up because it

10:15

does feel so precious even

10:18

though it's a kind of

10:20

unexplainable and strange and

10:22

indirect what I mean is that a

10:26

lot of us know what you're going through

10:28

even if we don't know about it because

10:30

we've experienced something similar we can relate to

10:32

how it feels and

10:35

even if I've never been through something the

10:37

same thing that's keeping you awake there's

10:40

probably someone listening who has and even if

10:42

they haven't been through the same thing they

10:44

can relate to how it feels they say

10:46

yeah that's tough yeah

10:49

I can see why you can't sleep you really do

10:51

deserve a good night's sleep though or

10:54

then maybe probably they would just silently

10:56

nod their heads in a loving way

10:58

let's all do I don't know if

11:00

I can do that perform that's too

11:02

performative but I can

11:04

nod my head in a caring

11:07

way I don't know why I say what

11:09

okay numb all right maybe if

11:11

you put a smile on your face it's a little

11:13

easier but it's true like

11:15

I really am honored to get to make

11:17

this show because of that because I

11:19

know how it feels I know what it's like a

11:23

trouble getting to sleep trouble staying asleep trouble

11:25

whatever the other one is dreading

11:28

bedtime I know what that feels like so that's

11:30

why I make the show I also

11:33

make it because you deserve a good night's

11:35

sleep you deserve the sleep you need so

11:37

your life is more manageable in a

11:40

bedtime where you could feel some solace and

11:42

some respite and that is

11:44

extremely important because I know

11:46

what it's like when I don't have that and I

11:48

know what my life is like when I have it

11:51

and life's not even easy when you're rested right

11:53

how come there's no t-shirt that says that don't

11:56

ask life's not easy even when I'm

11:58

rested They say, well, probably because

12:01

that doesn't make very, I mean, it makes sense, but

12:03

not on a t-shirt. I

12:05

say, well, what if we brand it with

12:07

one of those sleepy characters? And they'd

12:10

say, but you're pointing out the fact that

12:12

you're rested. Okay, thanks. Maybe

12:15

I'll make a shirt for some part of

12:17

my brain that's constantly contradicting my t-shirt ideas.

12:19

I don't know if

12:21

you could relate to that. I have a specialized

12:23

part of my personality and my intellect or whatever.

12:25

I don't know if that's a super ego. And

12:27

you know what, I think it feels like the

12:29

id. I don't know what

12:31

the id is though, but who's just

12:34

there to contradict the t-shirt ideas. And

12:37

they have a robust skill set. And

12:41

say, I don't know if you could call that maladaptive

12:43

because you say, no, I'm just here

12:46

to shoot down your t-shirt ideas. I

12:50

do serve a purpose, one purpose only.

12:53

And rarely, I mean, for most humans,

12:56

they don't have that because they wouldn't

12:58

be called into action. But you ramble

13:00

enough about stuff that, yeah, I'm here. I'm

13:02

here to take care of things. Bad

13:04

t-shirt ideas. I'm here to contradict them. Wait

13:07

a second though. Can I just point out like

13:10

a little, this isn't quite CBT. Are

13:13

you sure you're not contradicting every t-shirt

13:15

idea? Could that be,

13:17

by the way, do you think that, don't contradict it.

13:19

Do you think that could be a t-shirt? Because

13:22

I got to move on. To

13:25

the fact that if you're listening, whatever's keeping

13:27

you awake, whatever it feels like, you deserve

13:29

the rest you need so that

13:31

your life is better. And

13:34

ideally, that you get the rest you need on a regular

13:36

basis and you could be out there flourishing and that

13:39

your world is a better place. Now

13:42

the way we do it on the

13:44

show is I send my voice across

13:46

to the Deep Dark Night. I'm going

13:48

to use low-laying, soothing, creaky dulcet tones,

13:50

pointless meanders, and superfluous tangents. I'm going

13:52

to go off topic. I'm

13:54

going to get mixed up. I'm going to

13:57

forget about what I was talking about. you

14:00

know, repeat it, then I'll backtrack,

14:03

then I'll say, wait a second,

14:05

another t-shirt idea, then I'll get distracted

14:08

from that. So that's what Pointless Manders

14:10

and Superf was saying, Jens Sarr. All

14:13

this to keep you company so that

14:15

you could fall asleep. This is a podcast

14:17

you kind of just barely listen to, like

14:20

elevated background noise, or a friend

14:22

who's rambling who has no expectation

14:25

of being heard. I'm

14:27

just rambling for your, I

14:29

wouldn't say pleasure, but

14:31

as a service to you. So

14:33

this is like a podcast you kind of just

14:35

listen to. It's

14:38

also a podcast that doesn't put you to sleep.

14:40

I keep you company while you fall asleep. There

14:42

is no pressure to fall asleep

14:44

here. That's why the

14:46

shows are over an hour. And my job

14:49

is really to be your boar bae, or

14:51

your boar sib, or your boar cuz, or

14:53

your boar bestie, or your nae boar, your

14:55

boar bur, your boar bae, your

14:59

boar's, your boar bra,

15:03

your boar friend. Your friend who just talks in

15:05

a boring way to help

15:09

you fall asleep. So that's, yeah,

15:12

I don't know what my point was about. Oh, it's

15:14

a podcast you don't, no pressure to fall asleep. Yeah,

15:16

that's why I'm gonna be here over an hour. Because

15:18

there's people listening who can't sleep, or who

15:21

wake up needing this podcast, or who need

15:23

a break during the day. So

15:26

that not only is there no pressure to fall asleep, I'm

15:28

here to be the very end whether you're awake or asleep.

15:30

I'm here to keep you company whether you're listening or not.

15:34

So that's important for me to share. What

15:37

else? Oh, this podcast takes a while. It doesn't

15:39

take a while to getting used to it, but

15:41

it does take two or three tries. It

15:44

can take more or it could take two or three tries

15:46

stretched over a period of six, seven

15:48

years as I've heard before. Just

15:51

because it is so different. So when you first get

15:53

to the show, I mean, if you're having trouble sleeping,

15:56

you're already gonna be like fed up

15:58

if you're like me. And

16:00

you like you say I don't know what this

16:03

person's gonna try to do here and they don't

16:05

seem to be getting a point And they're not

16:07

very good at speaking And

16:09

I'm not so sure about this somebody recommended it or

16:11

I found it or I searched for it. I saw

16:14

it on a list When

16:16

you get a put me to sleep man When

16:18

some I mean talk about you. Are you sure you

16:20

don't need somebody? What

16:22

did you say t-shirt counterpoint or something?

16:25

You might need somebody for a rambling

16:27

counterpoint? And that's a

16:29

normal way to come to the show because yeah, if

16:31

you've had trouble falling asleep, you try a different stuff

16:33

Why wouldn't you be doubtful? Well,

16:35

let me tell you the doubt goes on a little

16:37

bit longer because it does take it getting

16:39

used to too Because maybe

16:42

you're expecting something a little more

16:44

zen like or meditative So

16:47

it just takes some tidy always apply.

16:49

Oh, I now I get it. He's

16:52

serious about his he's serious about nonsensical

16:55

rambling So it

16:57

just takes some getting used to to get

16:59

to that point. So I understand that's why

17:01

I say give it two or three Tries.

17:03

I also have a website set up and

17:05

sleep with me podcast.com/no. Thank you Because

17:08

there's so many people that feel so strongly That

17:12

they'll never listen again about

17:14

when they first meet me, you know

17:16

auditorily or whatever That

17:18

I want you to use that website if you

17:20

say I already can't stand you and I never

17:22

will I'd say okay. Well,

17:24

let's see because I've heard that before but also Sleep

17:28

with me podcast icon slash no. Thank you

17:30

has other sleep podcasts and sleepy stuff on

17:32

there Maybe one of those will put you

17:34

to sleep Then it's a

17:36

win-win situation Like you don't

17:38

have to dunk on me and say

17:40

like you don't have to let me know

17:42

and you fight and you fall asleep So

17:46

there's that what else do you

17:48

need to know? Give me more good news as a

17:50

new listener. Okay Well, I'm here to be a friend.

17:52

I mean that's that you don't have to listen to

17:56

And I do care. Those are the best piece of

17:58

good news for the show is structured because

18:01

of the caring actually the show structure in

18:03

a very deliberate way like the

18:05

podcast evolved a lot over the first 10 years of

18:07

the show. So the show starts off

18:10

with a greeting, friends be on the binary ladies

18:12

and gentlemen boys and girls. Then

18:14

I say something silly this time

18:17

it was about dice and then I got

18:19

distracted and then

18:21

like that way you feel seen and welcome

18:23

and you say I could check that podcast

18:26

out. So

18:28

that's the greeting and you can get a general

18:30

sense of what this podcast is going to be.

18:32

Then there's support so the podcast is free. Most

18:35

podcasts are free because of the support

18:37

that the shows have. Then there's

18:42

a long meandering intro meant

18:45

to ease you into bedtime which

18:47

is separate from the support and

18:50

it goes on about 12 to 20

18:52

minutes of me rambling but

18:54

it's meant to ease you into bedtime.

18:56

It does put a small percentage of people

18:58

asleep and a

19:00

small percentage of people skip the intro but

19:03

for most people the intro is a

19:05

way to introduce the podcast, hear what

19:07

Scootz is rambling about, something new probably,

19:10

or in this case

19:12

t-shirt ideas or you know throw

19:14

pillows. I'm sure there are

19:18

pillows, point-o-liz and pillows but I

19:20

just started thinking

19:26

of like tongue what are those called tongue tires?

19:29

No tongue twisters? Is

19:32

that what it's called? It doesn't sound right coming out of my

19:34

mouth does it? Because my

19:36

tongue's already twisted but it's

19:38

not tongue tires. It could

19:42

be though, it should be

19:44

called tongue stumblers but that doesn't

19:48

have alliteration. I already forgot

19:50

what the tongue tire was

19:54

about anyway. It slipped

19:56

right out of my brain so now

19:58

I have no idea. where I'm going.

20:00

So, oh, why

20:04

is the intro so long? Is

20:06

it just support for the show? No, it's

20:08

for a lot of regular listeners it's a

20:11

way to ease you into bedtime. A lot

20:13

of people are listening as they're getting ready for

20:15

bed, or they're doing

20:18

their bedtime routine, or their wind-down routine.

20:20

And that's what's been

20:22

shown to work. It works for me personally, is

20:25

having a way to ease me into

20:27

bedtime. So that's what the intro does.

20:29

Then there's the support between the intro and

20:32

the show. So the show can be free.

20:34

There's over 600 ad-supported

20:36

shows. There's a lot

20:38

of people that rely on the

20:40

show. So that's cool. Then

20:43

there's a bedtime story. I thought it was gonna

20:45

be about one thing, probably about crayons. I don't

20:47

know. We'll see.

20:49

And then there's thank yous at the end of the show.

20:51

So it's the structure of the show. It's what I make

20:53

the show. And I'm

20:55

really glad you're here. I really appreciate

20:58

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right, but this is Scootz here and this

21:53

is a hip-soed law.

21:55

This is a little behind the scenes

21:57

first. I'll just start out being on

22:00

honest with you, a little behind

22:02

the scenes, only bedtime level honesty

22:04

though. So

22:06

those of you that listen to podcasts for

22:08

a long time know that the free and

22:11

easy sound of podcasts comes from a lot

22:13

of people working a lot of hours and

22:15

all that kind of yada yada yada stuff.

22:19

And that we record the show in

22:21

pieces. The

22:23

episodes are recorded, which is like, so

22:25

I just recorded the thank yous for

22:28

this episode. That's the first thing I

22:30

recorded. And now I'm doing the episode

22:32

portion, story portion. So

22:34

if you're listening to a story only version

22:36

of this episode, you're only hearing this part

22:38

and not the thank yous and not the

22:41

intro. And then the intro

22:43

on the supporters owner, I'll

22:45

do sometimes the day after, sometimes

22:47

the day before, sometimes this

22:50

is rarely the same day just cause it does

22:52

take a lot more work than

22:54

you hear in energy

22:56

than, you know, believe it or not, being

22:58

this boring takes a lot of glucose from

23:00

our, you know, it does use a lot

23:02

of brain power. And

23:06

so yeah, believe it or not. And

23:10

so, um, so

23:14

sometimes what happens though, is I record

23:16

an intro for, I think it's

23:18

going to be for one thing. You probably know this

23:20

if you're, if you're, but maybe you don't. So I'm

23:22

saying it again. Cause it's

23:25

a fair, this is a fairly unique

23:27

situation we're in right now. So

23:30

that, um, I

23:32

can't even find it. It was so long ago. Got

23:35

to be kidding me. Yeah. Is

23:38

so, so, okay. So usually

23:40

let's see today, particularly as a Sunday,

23:42

I'm recording a full episode tomorrow on

23:45

Monday. I will record an intro. I'm

23:48

not sure what the intro will be for,

23:51

but I'll be recording an intro for sure. And,

23:53

uh, but

23:56

today I'm recording an episode for

23:58

an intro. I recorded a long. time

24:00

ago but now I can't even

24:02

find it. I want to like

24:05

usually I have notes and I

24:08

don't know why like it's just like more pressing

24:10

things have come up and then every time

24:12

I've gone and I said why don't we record

24:14

that episode it just hasn't

24:17

happened and but today's

24:19

the day because we need the episode

24:21

just the intro is just waiting for

24:23

the rest you know it's waiting for

24:25

its partners with the thank yous and

24:27

the story I was trying to figure out

24:29

when I recorded it I'm

24:32

going through okay this is February when

24:34

I'm recording this right now and I

24:37

don't see anything from February I'm

24:39

going through January and seeing

24:44

what we recorded in January doesn't

24:46

look like we recorded it in

24:48

January now I'm

24:51

in December and I

24:53

don't see it in December so like

24:56

WizKids multiplex one

24:58

now we're going

25:01

into November Ren Ray

25:03

fair Ray at the Ren fair sushi

25:07

go unboxing trader Joe

25:09

shopping to November

25:12

26 Ray Ren fair

25:14

open question mark question mark that

25:18

could be in space

25:20

quest to bonus episode for

25:22

sleeping me but supporters so

25:25

many plus quest busters apart

25:27

to journey into

25:29

World of Friends review journey to World

25:31

of Friends finale this

25:34

is early November then

25:36

the holiday bonus episodes

25:39

for the holidays and journey into World

25:41

of Friends finale toys RS episode

25:45

that's October couldn't have been earlier

25:47

than this I don't think just

25:51

go back Santa V

25:54

Santa Mars journey the World of

25:56

Friends holiday over to Sylvan Beach

25:58

if you list flyers fall 2023,

26:00

September 28th Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade,

26:03

September we're

26:09

working on our 12th Home of the Hundreds

26:11

episode. Okay well

26:14

I can honestly say I can't find

26:16

it. Interesting stuff

26:18

here. So oh there

26:20

it is, whoa boy it was a

26:22

long August 21st 2023 and there's

26:26

not a lot of notes. It

26:28

says crayon question mark question mark

26:30

question mark. And

26:32

so it's recorded August 21st 2023 so it's September,

26:37

October, November, December,

26:39

January. About five

26:41

and a half months later

26:43

I'm recording. So that may

26:46

be record like

26:48

on purpose. Like there's been times I've made

26:50

mistakes before and then

26:53

forgotten or like recorded something that far out

26:55

and forgot the intro or put the intro

26:57

off. Now let me check my

27:00

like if I have made it myself

27:02

a voice memo you won't hear it

27:04

but I just see

27:06

if I

27:08

have any communications with

27:10

my communicate with myself. Okay yeah

27:14

so okay here we go.

27:16

So I'm gonna play this it's only 21

27:18

seconds long you won't hear it but I

27:21

will. Okay so good new

27:23

really good news so that was a good 21 seconds

27:25

of like

27:28

notes I made for myself and

27:30

I texted that to myself right

27:33

after I recorded the intro which is good

27:35

and it was actually the last text I

27:37

sent myself so we

27:40

were taking a break that whole time

27:42

anyway. So basically

27:44

so this is meta but it's cool

27:47

because we'll get into it because so

27:50

that helps me know because you heard the

27:52

intro and here's the

27:54

thing the episodes all have the

27:56

they're all recorded and mixed and

27:58

and like audio

28:00

engineered so that they

28:02

kind of have the same sound, right?

28:06

And so ideally,

28:08

you know, like, it's pretty

28:10

seamless. So there's

28:12

six months or five and a half months won't

28:14

show any, you know, but so

28:17

basically you heard an intro and now

28:19

I'm like, I didn't listen to the

28:21

intro. Sometimes I will, but

28:24

I thought this would be interesting. So

28:26

this, I guess, apparently,

28:28

according to my voice memo, the title

28:30

of this episode would be the crayon

28:32

rambler and I

28:35

could kind of piece together that initially

28:37

I was recording the intro for a

28:39

journey into the world of friends because

28:41

I was talking about 20 sided dice

28:44

and forgot that, you

28:46

know, 20, the old 20 sided big farm. I

28:49

think that was a different intro where I was

28:51

joking about that. So I didn't realize you couldn't

28:53

say you have to say plural with 20

28:56

sided dice. Singular,

28:58

it's a 20 sided big

29:01

farm. But so, okay, so

29:03

there's a couple of things. So first off was

29:05

saying my notes to myself were saying, okay, well,

29:07

you want to start talking about which

29:10

was interesting. So just in

29:12

case and I don't think

29:14

this is a case anymore

29:16

with friends

29:18

of dragons everywhere and

29:22

underground play, favorite underground

29:25

places, our cool blooded friends,

29:27

role playing games. The

29:30

first time I got like as a

29:32

starter kit as a gift for the

29:34

holidays, I'm assuming it

29:37

was a holiday gift, could have been a birthday

29:39

gift. It was a red box. So I don't

29:41

know what edition that was. But

29:44

when you got the game, you know,

29:46

it came with the dice and everything

29:48

so you could start, you know, your

29:50

initial adventuring. And it also came with

29:52

a crayon because you would take your

29:54

dice. And

29:58

I think in my case, it was a white crayon. And

30:00

then you'd scrub on the dice and

30:02

then you'd, well, the wax would go

30:04

into the indentation

30:07

for the numbers. And

30:10

so instead of painting the like the

30:12

numbers, you were kind of painting them

30:14

yourself and then you'd wipe

30:16

the rest of the wax off. And

30:21

those are just a very tactile participatory

30:23

process. I don't think that's the case

30:25

anymore. I don't know though. I

30:28

mean, I do know that I

30:30

bought two different packs during 2020 or I

30:34

bought three and I don't remember any of

30:36

them. They've already been bought and bought is

30:39

the term though, but you

30:42

know, unless you're buying what's

30:47

the name of the cheerleading movie, Bring

30:49

It On, the role playing. Can you

30:51

imagine that? Oh boy. Bring

30:54

it on the role playing game. This sounds like something

30:56

we just should stop talking about, huh? Because

30:59

you say there's no way to make that appropriate. Sleepy.

31:04

So let's just move on. Bring it on the role

31:06

playing. You don't role playing role playing game. Nevermind.

31:12

I mean, I guess it could

31:14

be but you'd have to be it has to be

31:16

very I'm

31:19

sure somebody did. Okay,

31:21

bring it on the role playing game.

31:23

Yeah, you choose your character. You

31:27

could be out. I didn't see the movie.

31:29

Let's just lean into this, right? This is

31:31

another thing about these episodes. Let's lean in.

31:35

Since I'm a ram, you know, doing

31:37

the crying rambles. Have we ever looked

31:39

up Bring It On? I

31:42

mean, I guess at some point I should watch the

31:44

movie. Bring

31:46

It On came out in 2000. Oh boy.

31:49

That's not what an article I'm looking

31:51

for. Bring It On film. Peyton

31:54

Reed, director. Jessica.

32:00

Bendinger, who's a writer,

32:02

Kristen Dunst, Liza Dushku,

32:05

Jesse Bradford, Gabrielle Union,

32:09

two high school cheerleading teams,

32:11

preparations for the national competition.

32:14

Okay, so reminiscent of the

32:17

one of, my mind is so

32:19

under pressure, I was going to say, isn't

32:25

it like that movie about the thing?

32:27

That was in college, though. So

32:30

I think that would be, for starters, it

32:32

would be bringing on, we'd have to, we'd place

32:34

it in college if it was a role-playing

32:36

game, for obvious reasons. Even though there won't be

32:38

any of that, we say, bringing on the

32:40

role-playing game, like, like,

32:42

to meant to

32:45

be played at a kitchen table, whatever

32:47

you do, you know, later, whatever, but

32:49

this is like, takes place in college,

32:51

or, you know, after college, like, I

32:55

mean, here's a movie pitch, right? Bring it

32:57

on, like, I mean, why

32:59

can't there be, like, bring it on? I'm

33:01

sure that, like, again, this is an idea

33:03

of pitching, not for free taking, by the

33:05

way, but we

33:08

could reach out, like, bring

33:11

it on, like, people my

33:13

age. I see

33:15

nobody wants to see that. You

33:17

shouldn't be, but I already been bought, and,

33:21

but yeah, bring it on. Okay, so let's learn

33:23

about movie bringing on. Then we'll set it in

33:25

college, and we'll imagine it as a role-playing game,

33:28

even though it's supposed to be talking about crayons.

33:31

This is somewhat interesting. Okay,

33:34

so, bringing on was released in August

33:36

of 2000, so looks

33:38

like the last weekend in August was

33:41

box office success, number one spot.

33:43

I mean, this is

33:45

how popular it is, that line, which I'm

33:47

only presuming is from the movie, it's already

33:50

been brought, and is,

33:52

I mean, still relevant to

33:55

me, even though I

33:57

never saw the movie, which I'm admitting,

33:59

you know. I don't think it's cult

34:01

classic. Maybe I should watch it. Uh,

34:03

okay. So worldwide gross 90 million.

34:08

Uh, there was six direct video

34:10

sequels, none of which has original

34:12

cast. Bring it out again, bring

34:14

it on all or nothing, bring

34:17

it on in it to win it, bring it

34:19

on, dance off to the finish. Bring

34:21

it on worldwide cheer in the

34:24

TV film, bring it on cheer or

34:26

sleep. Okay.

34:29

There'll be multiple spoilers here. Oh

34:31

no, this is college. Okay, great. That's even better.

34:34

That's good. Okay. I'm more comfortable talking about this

34:36

or seeing the movie because it takes place in

34:38

college. No, just be

34:40

a little like, uh, though. I

34:43

mean, one of my favorite actresses

34:45

was in, uh, like, uh, I'm

34:47

a high school cheerleader or whatever.

34:49

That's a, that's a cult classic.

34:52

Was named, I can't move it. I can't, I

34:54

think it's like, uh, I'm a high school

34:56

cheerleader. Is that what it's called? Anyway.

34:59

Uh, okay. I'm

35:02

Natasha Leone. That's like, that's what I'm

35:05

sorry. It was, I forgot to, okay.

35:07

So, uh, okay. Torrance

35:09

Shipman. I was

35:11

in Rancho Carne high school,

35:14

San Diego boyfriend is at

35:16

Cal state Dominguez Hills. Okay.

35:19

And they're going for a national title,

35:22

six national title. Torrance is, uh, the

35:25

next team captain replacing

35:27

big red after she

35:29

graduates. Uh, but

35:31

then wait a second,

35:34

Torrance Shipman who's Carver after,

35:37

uh, no teammate Carver

35:39

is injured. It has to sit the

35:41

season out. And

35:44

then missy Panetone Pantone

35:47

gymnast from Los Angeles, uh,

35:49

with her brother cliff. Okay.

35:53

Then missy says the Toro's

35:56

play drives their cheers from

35:58

Torrance. Uh, And

36:01

then they go to LA

36:03

to watch the East Compton

36:05

Clovers from Missy's previous high

36:07

school, who they competed against,

36:09

and they perform another routine.

36:12

Isis is the captain

36:14

and it reveals that big

36:16

red videotape, the Clovers routines,

36:19

and like basically copied them

36:21

for the Tauros. Torrance says,

36:23

oh no, and

36:26

also she dropped the spirit stick,

36:28

which is never supposed to touch

36:31

the ground. So

36:33

the Clovers say, okay, we're gonna go

36:35

against you in the

36:37

national of versatile in the national

36:39

competition, which they

36:41

weren't in last year because

36:44

they're better cheerleaders. Okay, then

36:46

Torrance and

36:49

Cliff begin to get to know each

36:51

other and Aaron grows more distance. After

36:55

Torrance informs the Tauros about

36:58

the routines, the team votes

37:00

including in favor of using

37:02

current routine. Torrance agrees because

37:04

there's no time to use a new routine.

37:06

Well Missy reluctantly goes along with him. So

37:09

they don't know whose place who either, but

37:12

that's it. When do they say it's already

37:14

been brought? And it's my question, bring

37:17

it on. It's already been brought, I

37:19

guess at that point, right? Okay. Tauros

37:22

home game, Isis and the teammates

37:24

perform the routine in front

37:27

of the whole school. Wait, is

37:30

the Tauros next? Isis and her teammates, oh,

37:32

so the Clovers come to

37:34

a Tauros game, do the routine. Then

37:39

after advice from Aaron,

37:41

Torrance recruits like

37:44

something, they hire

37:46

a choreographer, Sparky,

37:48

Pole, Polistri, and

37:52

who's not nice. I don't know

37:54

who plays Sparky, and

37:56

that doesn't go well. Torrance

37:59

speaks to the kind of competition or learns

38:01

or a choreographer provided

38:03

that routine for six other

38:05

teams but they're the defending

38:07

champs so they

38:09

do get to defend their crown but they'll

38:11

need a new routine. Big

38:14

Red says you're not a leader

38:16

Torrance okay so this is part

38:18

of Torrance's thing then they don't steal

38:20

okay this is a lot this is

38:23

a really detailed this has every single plot

38:25

of detail some movies don't have this in

38:27

here sorry this is very sleepy though I

38:30

mean not not because of the

38:32

movie just because it

38:34

is because I already lost my place okay

38:36

so then they get to go to Daytona

38:39

Beach Torrance is you know not doing as

38:41

a leader considers quitting

38:43

okay MoMA you know time and

38:45

change or whatever they say Aaron

38:48

tells Torrance to step down as

38:50

captain and

38:54

team rivals Courtney and Whitney

38:56

Cliff sees Torrance and Aaron

38:58

together breaks up with their

39:00

severance friendship Torrance

39:02

breaks up with the Aaron he's

39:04

distance doesn't believe in her

39:07

obviously oh he's not yet he

39:09

also says it's not very loyal she

39:12

uses Cliff's previous encouragement and

39:14

his first personally made mixtape for an

39:16

inspiration to have a new routine the

39:20

coovers are also unable to attend they

39:22

need more funding to get to the

39:24

Nationals Torrance has

39:27

tells her father to sponsor seem Isis

39:29

refuses because it says here you just

39:32

feel guilty from copying us instead

39:36

the coovers get on a talk

39:38

show and they get to fund

39:40

through that and

39:43

then the coovers man the Torros make it

39:45

to the final cliff cheering on the team

39:47

and Torrance

39:49

and Isis end up giving

39:51

each other both last-minute advice

39:54

and one team wins the other

39:56

team comes in second obviously but with

39:58

a newfound I won't spoil that part

40:01

newfound respect and

40:03

also you know blossoming

40:06

love. Okay here's the cast. Kristen

40:09

Dunst was Torrance Shipman, Eliza

40:11

Dushku was Missy Pantone, Jesse

40:16

Bradford Cliff Pantone, Gabrielle

40:19

Union's Isis, Claire

40:21

Cramer's Courtney. That's

40:24

Whitney's best friend. Anyway

40:26

we do I don't have to go on and on and on. I

40:29

just want to know who Big Red,

40:32

like okay, who said it's already been

40:34

brought and that's what I want to

40:36

know. I don't

40:38

know production. This was pitched

40:42

as Coolest Meets

40:45

Strictly Ballroom and then

40:52

yeah there's this theme of cultural

40:54

appropriation. It's passed

40:57

over 28 times before

40:59

finding a home. Wow

41:01

that's cool. Like that I mean it's

41:04

not cool it got passed over 28 times but

41:07

that Jessica

41:10

Ben Mendinger stuck

41:13

with it. Okay

41:15

casting everybody was expecting to have a

41:17

cheer prepared. They wanted

41:20

to use his little stunt doubles. Reed

41:24

and Union met numerous times to

41:26

discuss the best way to approach

41:28

her character. Peyton Reed is a

41:30

director okay and

41:34

filming reception and 63% on

41:42

Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic 52

41:44

out of 100. They

41:46

have a

41:48

lot of quotes. This is really well

41:50

researched accolades. Number 30 on the best

41:52

50 high school movies.

41:56

Legacies it's been lauded as a rare

41:58

team for rare team. film

42:00

to address issues of systemic

42:03

inequality, cultural appropriation, intersectional

42:06

feminism. Those are

42:08

seen as the major factors with the

42:10

film's continued legacy and it

42:13

holds up while 20 years later. Bring

42:18

it on can be

42:20

often overlooked and ostracized.

42:23

And let's see, okay,

42:26

bring it on. Five sequels

42:28

we talked about. There's

42:31

also stage musical, Alliance

42:33

Theatre in Atlanta. Came

42:36

out January 16, 2011. Oh, Linda did. With Tom Kitts,

42:38

Amanda Green, Jeff

42:46

Whitty. Let's

42:49

see. And let's

42:51

see where else. National Tour started

42:53

in 2011. And

42:57

after an open number that truly dazzles,

42:59

the score hits its stride. Music

43:10

opened on Broadway. And it

43:14

was on Broadway for a little bit. Let me

43:17

just check one more

43:19

thing here. I don't know

43:23

if any of this helps me thus

43:25

far with coming up with a, what

43:27

do you call that thing? What

43:32

do you call it? Okay, so role-playing game, I

43:34

guess maybe I'm stretching it, right? Well,

43:37

it could be. I mean, it could be

43:39

like within, I know there's like all these

43:41

new role-playing systems, right, that are pretty flexible.

43:44

But maybe it could also be like

43:46

one of these more real world, real

43:48

world games. Now I was trying to

43:50

think if it could be like, like

43:54

Stevie B, like our friend,

43:57

our favorite, know it all is big into this game.

44:00

that I've been meaning to check out,

44:02

what do they call them? I

44:04

don't know what they're called, but

44:06

it's like the Tears of the

44:09

Clock Tower it's called. I mean

44:11

it's called something else, but it's like one of those

44:13

games, like none of the games you can say. I

44:15

mean there's a popular show

44:17

on NBC right now about

44:21

it, and there's game, you know, like

44:23

all of us stay around among us.

44:25

I guess you can say that one, yeah.

44:29

But I don't really understand the mechanics

44:31

of those games. But

44:33

okay, so either one would have to

44:35

kind of identify other roles, which is, so

44:38

this is one thing, like,

44:41

so obviously there's like the

44:43

choreographer, that's a role,

44:45

right? Then there's like

44:48

the leadership role, which

44:50

I kind of think should be different, like there's

44:52

probably, I mean, okay, so

44:54

we could go into like what are

44:56

your areas of expertise? Choreography, like

45:00

music choices, which

45:02

kind of like you could help

45:04

with the choreographer. Leadership,

45:09

charisma, gymnastics,

45:11

which is already skilled,

45:13

but these aren't exactly,

45:16

you're right, Brain, finances,

45:18

you need somebody with finances,

45:22

what else? Flair, flair is a good

45:24

one, you're right, flair. So these would

45:26

be different, would

45:29

those be, I don't know any of these

45:31

attributes, I mean, I guess

45:33

we could use, but what about use

45:35

of magic, you're right. Would

45:37

this be a role-playing game without magic?

45:39

No. So I

45:41

guess then we'd have to enter, so

45:44

it'd probably be better in a different

45:46

universe, right? If we're having like, bring

45:49

it on in our world, bring it

45:51

on the role-playing game in our world,

45:53

you'd say, okay, well, again, you'd

45:56

say, well, what adventures other than

45:58

winning the national championship? and

46:00

then whatever you're kind of

46:02

grasping at straws if

46:05

you're gonna have a role-playing game do you like

46:08

like it'd be very niche that's

46:10

obviously be very

46:13

niche probably only

46:15

on a sleep pod guest but to move

46:19

beyond it you say okay so

46:21

I would have like I guess

46:23

this is a long-winded way of saying it would

46:25

have to maybe could happen in a bring it

46:27

on universe so

46:29

that would help with the other game the

46:32

other movies again they could like make them

46:34

as part of the game so that would

46:36

help with other movies like

46:39

folding them in because it would have had to

46:41

flush out some sort of bring it on larger

46:43

bring it on universe there but

46:46

they still say it would have to be like a universe

46:50

like a cheer based universe right would

46:52

it be cheer based economy I mean

46:55

again I think this lends ourselves okay

46:58

just hear me out here I think

47:00

we're closer to a solution than we're

47:02

then we are further because

47:05

we do have a world that this fits

47:07

in the larger context of the world which

47:09

is the

47:12

world of dr. triangle and isosceles

47:15

because you say okay so and then

47:18

also which was influenced

47:20

by stational 11

47:22

like the after I read station 11 that's

47:25

when I was like oh what if like

47:27

that's where I kind of started pondering ideas

47:29

for dr. triangle and isosceles and so

47:33

I think that's a good world

47:35

for bring it on that would be the universe

47:37

that bring it on is the

47:39

role playing where the role like that

47:43

would be the general

47:45

situation so groups of

47:47

cheer cheer cheer cheer cheer

47:49

cheer or cheerleaders let's

47:53

just say cheerleaders and actually in some sense it's

47:55

like yes in this world

47:57

that's actually what we do we lead

48:00

through cheer. And

48:03

just like Dr. Triangle and I

48:05

saw Solis or like

48:07

the characters in Station Eleven, whether

48:10

you're watching the show or the

48:12

film, I mean the show

48:14

or the book, like

48:18

the cheerleaders. So there's like, I

48:20

mean it's a larger world, right?

48:23

It's a world where, I mean there's

48:25

like, so we have a lot of

48:27

benefits for, like

48:29

we don't have, I mean again we'd

48:31

have to build into a lot of

48:33

wide cheerleaders. But I mean this

48:35

does make a lot of sense as poo-pooing

48:38

it as some parts of us

48:41

may say, okay, so

48:43

like we have cheerleaders. I mean

48:45

it'd be cool if it was cheerleaders between 18

48:48

and if, you know, 70 years

48:50

old too. And

48:52

they say, yeah, we have our cheer squads,

48:54

right? You could go, you could say there's, we

48:56

also have a dance, you know, dance teams,

48:58

whatever you want to call it. But we're

49:01

just using the term, like

49:05

we could loosen up the term cheerleader

49:07

obviously. But you'd say,

49:09

okay, cheerleaders like

49:12

advantages for this world

49:14

that has like some extra

49:16

challenges than the world we live in. Okay, teamwork,

49:20

that's one, like ability to live,

49:23

work and live in community, or

49:26

at least existing community, because communities are

49:29

going to be, so sense of community,

49:31

teamwork and sense of community, like

49:34

a leadership structure,

49:37

those are all kind of intertwined,

49:41

like a ability

49:43

to be gatherers and looker

49:46

for, you know, resource as

49:49

you're saying, resource management, I guess is a

49:51

way to say it in a game context,

49:54

in a sleep podcast context, because

49:57

you say, okay, we have like a lot of

50:00

A lot of us are very

50:02

athletic, like fast, or can jump,

50:04

or can move, not

50:07

only like physically flexible,

50:09

but maybe flexible in many

50:12

other ways with

50:14

thinking and creativity. So

50:17

yeah, we have the ability to gather

50:19

resources maybe a little bit more efficiently

50:21

than other groups or communities. So

50:25

we can deal with some

50:27

of the challenges of this universe. Now

50:30

the world of Dr. Triangle and

50:32

Isosceles, they had

50:34

a more specific thing, but we're going a

50:36

little bit broader, right? Because in Dr. Triangle

50:38

and Isosceles, that was a world without math.

50:42

And I guess that like, but it

50:45

was like a world, you know, what would the world be

50:47

like without math? And

50:49

then these two characters are going through the

50:51

universe performing and

50:55

teaching people lessons about math, you know,

50:57

in a world that

50:59

kind of forgot, like stop believing in

51:01

math. So math

51:03

doesn't matter, like what would happen if that was

51:05

like the other thing? It's like, what is station

51:07

11? Like

51:10

that kind of world, but what

51:13

and why would happen? Okay,

51:15

well, in this world, people just

51:17

stop believing in math. They

51:19

said, math, don't buy it. Don't

51:22

need it. Don't want it. And you

51:26

know, what if there was, you know, demigods

51:28

and goddesses and gods and goddesses based on

51:30

all that. But

51:32

we don't have to get that specific with

51:34

the cheer groups because

51:37

in a world with more challenging

51:39

resources, they

51:41

would have certain advantages. Then you

51:44

could say, well, how do they acquire, if

51:46

there's like, how do they acquire, like then

51:49

you could have different alignments of cheer

51:51

groups, right? Because

51:54

then you have the cheer groups

51:56

like that, want to

51:59

like build more community within communities.

52:01

So similar to Dr. Tranago

52:03

and Isosceles and Station 11,

52:06

you know, they maintain their funding or

52:09

some of the resource gathering by going

52:11

places and leading through cheer and that

52:14

can be also a way they sustain their

52:16

community. Like some people keep traveling with the

52:19

group and some people won't or

52:21

they could stay and be like a

52:23

larger community. So, yeah, we got two

52:25

cheer squads that live here and when

52:27

we're feeling, you know, you know, every

52:29

day. We got an AM cheer, midday

52:32

cheer, you know, evening

52:34

cheer. On the weekends we got nighttime

52:36

chairs and we

52:38

even have a small,

52:40

you know, that could be okay, now we're

52:42

getting more and more into it. So then

52:44

you can have even

52:46

more developed worlds. So you get

52:49

these like a city state type

52:51

world and

52:54

then again you could have, then you could

52:57

get into some sort of like a structure,

53:00

like a more formal one, and then you could say,

53:02

okay, instead of, so this would be a little bit

53:04

different. There was a movie about it that

53:07

came out when I don't, I think it was before I

53:09

was born. I don't know

53:11

why it was like, but it was

53:13

like about roller derby being,

53:17

and I think it was, it got remade too.

53:19

And it

53:21

was like basically like what if instead of

53:23

like instead of

53:25

our city states wasting, like

53:27

this would be such great

53:30

leadership actually. So they, maybe

53:32

the cheerleaders should run, I mean like the

53:34

leaders of the cheerleaders, I mean

53:37

if you know, as long as they're, you know, as

53:39

long as their definition of bringing in is

53:41

like with love and kindness and tolerance, like

53:45

they should be leading this world.

53:47

And they say, yeah, well instead

53:49

of wasting resources to gather resources,

53:52

which seems like a lot of like what

53:54

happens in these kind of worlds, even the

53:56

worlds of adventure, so okay, well we're gonna

53:58

go put on some plate armor and

54:02

dance, do a dance off and plate armor.

54:04

So one of us is so tired we

54:06

can't, and they say, well, that's like not

54:08

a great use of anybody's resources. Uh, first

54:11

off, you know, much work takes to make plate

54:13

armor and you got to gather all that's great,

54:15

but, uh, you know,

54:18

couldn't we just use that for something else

54:20

and then why would you dance off with

54:22

each other? Like,

54:24

especially if you're going to do an isolation

54:26

when you could have a cheer off,

54:29

uh, one within the word, uh,

54:31

part of the goal is spreading cheer. So

54:35

this is like the, maybe Joy

54:37

germ, Joan is the matriarch leader

54:39

of this whole thing. Joy

54:42

germ, Joan was part of my childhood. Uh,

54:44

somebody like the had a parade that's tried to

54:46

spread joy throughout the world. She comes up

54:48

on the episodes every once in a while. She

54:52

had a foundation called the joy germ foundation

54:54

and its whole purpose was to spread joy.

54:57

Uh, but cheer is a little bit

55:00

different, but, uh, it's not

55:02

that different. Right. Uh, so that's

55:04

cool. Like, uh, so,

55:06

okay. So then, um, okay.

55:10

But so yeah, that would be interesting. So

55:12

Joy germ, Joan, her character

55:14

is created. Well,

55:16

I mean, if we wanted to make it, this is a game,

55:18

not a movie, but you always have to have some sort of

55:20

a, equally strong opposing

55:23

force. And

55:25

I prefer also to have an

55:28

environmental conditions, uh, and

55:30

then maybe a ticking clock or something, but we

55:32

could, you know, you know, that can all be

55:34

figured out or the DM could figure that out

55:36

or the cheer cheer cheer cheer later,

55:39

the CL I'm running.

55:41

Yeah. I'm running this game. Uh,

55:44

so yeah, then like, there

55:46

could be, that could be like the general

55:48

thing is like, okay, then you're preparing for

55:50

these cheer offs, uh, between, you know, your

55:52

different city States, and I

55:55

don't know if that'd be a game mechanism. That could

55:57

just be part of the games, a lore of like

55:59

why. So like why is cheerleading

56:01

so important? And

56:04

you say, well didn't schools just explain it over

56:06

like the past 15 minutes and it

56:09

didn't make any sense, but it did. And

56:12

they say, okay, well, then

56:14

you'd have adventures, right? Because

56:16

you, and you would be friends more than

56:18

likely with the people on your cheer squad.

56:20

So then you could go on smaller adventures

56:22

with them or

56:25

you'd be trying to make an adventure and

56:29

yeah, and I mean, then there

56:31

could be magic I think. And

56:36

science, like a form of science that's

56:38

magic like our alchemy, because you say,

56:40

okay, well, your archers are gonna have

56:42

special effects or

56:44

yeah, if you combine this, this and this, it

56:48

produces this result. So

56:51

then like, then you have, you could raise your

56:53

teams and you know, like a buff, you say,

56:55

okay, but this, you know, if we do these

56:57

combo with

56:59

our magic

57:01

style cheer, you know, then

57:04

we could have double endurance, you

57:07

know, or the inspiration that would be

57:09

good, like instead of magic,

57:12

like one of those things could

57:14

be inspiration instead of, I don't

57:17

know, manna. Just say,

57:19

oh yeah, we're actually inspiring. And they say,

57:21

are you inspiring your team or the audience,

57:24

right? Or again,

57:26

if you were working from the other

57:28

side, you'd say you'd de-inspire, deflate or,

57:30

you know, be it down or, and

57:34

you know, maybe it is a thing

57:36

of like the video, the movie, since

57:38

it's a classic, it

57:40

is like, oh, in the world before,

57:43

right? Like

57:45

these, so all the characters, particularly from

57:47

the main movie, it sounds like, because

57:50

it seems like it had a great message too. And

57:54

like also the,

57:56

all the other movies, so like are

57:59

like the historic. text, right?

58:01

Like, can we talk about that? I never

58:03

read the book Canticle for Leibowitz,

58:06

but I meant to, but I

58:09

think I understand the basic concept.

58:12

So in this movie, like, that

58:14

is like the text, bring it

58:16

out in the movie, but

58:19

again, then you could have suddenly this

58:21

gathering force who's saying, like, well, I've

58:24

decided to, that

58:26

it's already been brought, like, I'm gonna

58:28

bring it for another reason. Instead

58:31

of, like, the solution has to seem like it

58:33

was reached in the movie, like,

58:36

the movie started with taking without

58:39

permission, right? Appropriating or whatever, and

58:43

like, but it ended in some sort

58:45

of collaborative respect, or like, I don't

58:47

know, I just read a Wikipedia article,

58:49

it's not too deep, but like,

58:53

the opposing force could be still, like,

58:55

on that of, like, and then

58:57

of course you could have, like, the, like, different

58:59

tones of that, like conformity.

59:01

Oh no, we only cheer like

59:04

this in, you know,

59:06

the gray world. This is

59:08

how we cheer, just like

59:10

that sleep podcast. We

59:13

don't bring anything on, we

59:15

just talk like this, you

59:17

know, don't do, you know,

59:20

don't bring anything on, just

59:22

make it sleepy. And

59:25

you say, okay, but I don't know, man, it's

59:27

just, so it hasn't already been brought, but I'm

59:30

just trying to think of ways to make it more

59:33

interesting. I guess,

59:35

like, all the high school, like,

59:39

like, all the high schools of the

59:41

old world, it could be, like, somehow

59:43

forgotten. So those could be places that

59:45

go on smaller adventures, instead

59:48

of going underground or to colleges. Yeah,

59:50

it could be like, okay, we're gonna

59:52

go back, you know, the University of

59:54

Nebraska has been forgotten. We're gonna

59:57

go there, you know, for lore.

1:00:01

singing, you know,

1:00:03

deep within the athletic

1:00:05

center, and we're gonna go there

1:00:08

and find out,

1:00:11

you know, like, and then you

1:00:13

have another quest. The

1:00:15

thing is we'd have to, like,

1:00:17

usually they're sheer squads, so these

1:00:20

would be more like smaller squads,

1:00:23

which does not necessarily... so

1:00:25

I'm just trying to think

1:00:27

about how we put a good... I'm trying to think of

1:00:29

how we'd put a good context

1:00:31

around that, right? Of

1:00:34

like, why is it like

1:00:36

only between four and seven cheers

1:00:39

instead of what

1:00:42

I would imagine is like somewhere between 10 and 15?

1:00:44

Yeah, I don't have a clear

1:00:47

answer to that.

1:00:49

I guess you could

1:00:52

have NPCs that you pick up that

1:00:54

are gonna be in your performances maybe,

1:00:56

but I

1:00:59

guess like, yeah, the world that's

1:01:01

changed. I said, yeah, no, the

1:01:03

cheer squads, your teams are much

1:01:05

smaller now just

1:01:08

because the world has changed. It's totally normal

1:01:10

to cheer with... I mean, if you have

1:01:12

a cheer in your heart, then

1:01:17

you could, you know, cheer

1:01:19

with something that rhymes with like, you don't always need another

1:01:21

to take part. You just let

1:01:28

your cheer like outside

1:01:31

yourself and cheer and

1:01:33

cheer and cheer and you'll feel

1:01:38

cheer's wealth. That

1:01:40

was the sage wisdom passed down

1:01:43

from Jojirim Joan,

1:01:45

I guess.

1:01:48

So I think we're... I mean, I think there's still

1:01:51

some holes. I'm just trying to think of the biggest

1:01:53

holes and bring it on the

1:01:55

role-playing game. I mean, I guess,

1:01:59

Lord have you, Lord have you. about a whole

1:02:01

new universe. Again, you

1:02:03

could set it very, I mean

1:02:05

the other thing would be to

1:02:07

go very specific, specificity. So whenever

1:02:10

the movie is transferred to

1:02:13

college, whatever the imaginary college

1:02:15

is, and then you just have

1:02:17

some, like it's like more of like

1:02:19

a shorter adventure, a mini adventure. And

1:02:23

so then you need to gather, you

1:02:25

have to gather squad, training,

1:02:28

equipment, experience points.

1:02:30

So you'd have

1:02:32

to do other forms of cheering, like

1:02:36

a specific mission. So I guess that would

1:02:38

make sense, like you say, okay well, you

1:02:41

know the freshman class, like

1:02:45

locally can't, you know, go to the

1:02:48

high school and teach freshman class math

1:02:50

or cheering. And

1:02:53

you could gather resources, so the

1:02:55

high school would be, lunch

1:02:59

would be a good one. Yeah, so

1:03:01

then you could have like a adventure

1:03:03

of lunch, and

1:03:07

like navigating that, you know, making

1:03:09

up different adventures at lunchtime. What

1:03:13

else could we have? Fundraiser, so

1:03:15

they have to do a fundraiser. Pap

1:03:19

rally, where no one feels any pap or

1:03:21

any reason to rally, affecting

1:03:27

other outcomes, so like they could do something,

1:03:29

you know, like can we raise the test

1:03:31

scores of the school through cheering. I guess

1:03:34

the adventurers could choose, you know, do we want

1:03:36

to help the athletic teams, do we want to

1:03:38

help, you know, how come there's no cheerleaders at

1:03:40

the math, you know, math

1:03:44

competition or something else, right?

1:03:46

You know, what about the

1:03:49

e-sports, cheering for e-sports,

1:03:54

so they could choose to do that. I mean,

1:03:57

you could really cloak it in, like,

1:04:00

if this is some sort of crafty pair that's smarter

1:04:02

than me, be like, okay, now you got to do

1:04:04

your homework. Now that would

1:04:06

get you 50 experience points for your

1:04:08

characters. You

1:04:11

know, don't use your phone after seven. You

1:04:13

get this many experience points. So

1:04:18

I guess it's other things, but that's

1:04:20

kind of like, I think it's a

1:04:22

fairly, this is like a

1:04:24

reasonable idea. You

1:04:28

could listen to all the soundtracks. You could listen

1:04:30

to the soundtrack from the musical while you play.

1:04:33

You could have all the characters

1:04:35

from all the movies be, you

1:04:37

know, all the movies could be

1:04:40

other like scenarios, right, that you

1:04:42

get to play through. I don't

1:04:44

know, like the whole, I mean, I'm not

1:04:46

saying this about the movie. It's just like,

1:04:48

you can't like, then they're a little bit

1:04:50

too on the rails, right? So like

1:04:53

they don't have as much like

1:04:55

open worldness, even though all like

1:04:58

the adventures just take

1:05:00

a little bit of work, you know, more work

1:05:02

than the sleep podcast. But

1:05:04

this also kind of gives you an idea of what happens

1:05:06

when I thought I was going

1:05:09

to talk about one thing. Then I put it

1:05:11

off because they said, okay, at some point we'll

1:05:13

make that episode about the Cran Rambler. And

1:05:16

I don't know this, I don't think this will be

1:05:18

a regular series, but there's definitely other

1:05:20

Cran based episodes and we're going to

1:05:23

do coloring on Sleep With Me Plus

1:05:25

for coloring pages. So

1:05:27

I guess when this episode comes out, that'll

1:05:30

encourage me to get that started because Emily's

1:05:32

been making coloring pages for all our art

1:05:35

for the show. So that's exciting to

1:05:37

do, it's like to have that. And

1:05:39

so that's another exciting

1:05:41

thing, Cran related. But

1:05:44

yeah, this is rambling. I thought I

1:05:47

was going to ramble about Cran's and

1:05:49

then I misspoke about brought, you know,

1:05:51

whatever brought Baughton. And

1:05:53

that's where we went. So I'm glad to be

1:05:56

able to get to do this. It's fun to

1:05:58

carry off into dreaming. Good night. All

1:06:02

right, this is Scoot. This is like

1:06:04

a thank you. So I want to thank

1:06:06

the people that recently joined or moved over

1:06:08

to sleep with me. Plus Amy, Elliot, and

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1:06:13

thanks, and good night. Anne,

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you. Thanks, thanks, and good night.

1:06:19

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you. Thanks, thanks, and good

1:06:25

night. Rachel, Myrna, and William. Thank

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you. Thanks.

1:06:30

Thanks. Thank you. Thank

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you. Thank you. Thank you.

1:06:36

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1:06:38

you. aldies. Thank you.

1:06:41

Thank you, thank you. Thank

1:06:46

you. Thank you.

1:06:51

Thank you. Kelly. Thank

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you. Thank

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