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hello and welcome to slate spoiler specials
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i'm sam adams a senior editor at slate
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and today i'm joined by slates features editor jeffrey
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glimmer love them jeffrey hi sam today
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we are spoiling the movie orphan first kill
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the prequel to two thousand and nine orphan
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which is the story of a creepy adopted child
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who spoiler turns out to be
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a homicidal adult in orphan
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first skill we learn how esther
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made esther way from estonia from estonia u s courtesy
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of a wealthy american family grieving the loss of
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they're missing daughter but before we get
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into that chef what did you think of orphan
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first kill okay i have to admit i
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absolutely loved this movie a it
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was like this a master class in understanding the assignment
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a part of the issue with orphan
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first kill as you're already know that this
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supposed to little girls an adult and i kept
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wondering how it is it going to be
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that a this movie has any kind of the
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level of fun or mischief as the original
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and a it comes up with a solution for that
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that's
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we perfect either what do you think sam
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i like it okay i think the us
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west which we will definitely be talking about shortly
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even a genius what obviously as you mentioned
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as really has or a problem going in that the thing
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that made the first movie so much fun with
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this completely bonkers revelation
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about an hour into it is the premise
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for this movie so it is hard to
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live up to that level i think it sort of needed
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a little more juice in a lot
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of different places so it's of his beloved
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the first movie and , looking to sort
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of really have that high a little bit as a sort
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of on of deceptive ah harm of the
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methadone for something but as i don't think
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of really measures up to the first i
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actually was a little bit of the first
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after watching the swan and it's axis a
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somewhat tower movie until the twist in
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which i remember seeing the seat or people does
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actually screaming at the screen and
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this one i think has a more contagious sense
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of missteps and sort of i'm i'm
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kind of weeding out the audience very hard throughout
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the movie props to hard but and
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you will see into the pot we can discuss them or later
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yes artery start off in this movie
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is basically based on based line
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from the first movie where you find out that astor
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who's adopted by this ah american
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family came over from a
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there are a mental hospital in estonia
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i'm into this is sort of a story how that happens we
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start off in a mental hospital
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which the little more alike as or prison for
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the criminally insane research center
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alongside the us the
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art therapy teacher who's
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there with all these themes are nice liberal ideas
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about how she's going to work with these
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inmates and make life more pleasant and
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immediately warned about
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the most dangerous prisoner in the whole
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facility basically the hannibal lecter
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of the sunni and cylons
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ah who is of this as i
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guess thirty year old one and then known as
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lena the teacher naturally fighters code strange
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be salty sees his his are sweet little girl
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setting and her desk drying rb
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quickly find out why within a couple
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minutes of the movie lena has fresh
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a prison guard skull sort of a range
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for another went to be murdered and then she
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hit a home back to moscow with this
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unsuspecting teacher who the she then beat to
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death with the tire iron obvious
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jeffers you think of as reintroduction to
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as there
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yeah i mean i think let it be said that
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if you're going to be in a horror movie do not
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be an art appreciation to turn a mental asylum
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it's just like really setting yourself up for a bad faith
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i'm i i thought it was a fun opening
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sequence i mean you know a it's
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such a horse equal thing or prequel in this case
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to like set of the opening an insane asylum
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with the monster from another movie just sitting
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there all angelically but it was nevertheless
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of fun and effective sequence i felt bad
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for the poor are teacher a but
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it's it is a it does his job and
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then from there you sort of she
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has like googled missing children it
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seems that this woman's house after she you know
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be as her to death i'm repeatedly i'm
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and she has found that there's a woman who are
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missing little girl who what kind of looks like
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her for years ago a in
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connecticut which connecticut believe is where the original
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orphan is set so there's sort of leading up to that
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and xi [unk]
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the way the know like a park
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until a cop comes over as in the middle of
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the night is like what he doing your little girl and
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she's a i don't know my name's esther this
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little goes missing her name is esther
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then we cut the united states where there's a family
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it as a missing a little girl or so we think
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for a while and dot
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delightfully it turns out that a mother is played
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by julia stiles of are many
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nineties movies fame and she comes to
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moscow to retrieve her daughter wishes
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message assembly be grew up on as i did
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in fairfield county i mean a very
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precisely what does family in local
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dairy and it's meant to signify but if you don't
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we see as years older brothers need gunner
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are introducing the middle of a sentence ornament
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with the interpol some evil playing
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so if you give it to that that whether
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these are sort of lights evil
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uptight last stand you're just
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not need to put your phone down and watch little mercilessly
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ever see that song on really the actively
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conveys that this is a movie set like fifteen
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years ago but you're from beauty like of
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see we're not we're not quite now my favorite or that's
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on how long time it's i'm sorry
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get down on the as they were
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introduced to the family been missing
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their girl for four years
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and and lisa the mother and
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father who is serve an artist
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to his not really been teaching for four years
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because it is grief they seem very
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pleased to relieve finally have a daughter back
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brother got hers since a little more
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put off diet we did
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a person's this is just because maybe he didn't quite
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by the thing is we're that his sister has
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come back doesn't seem to remember anything had a russian
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accent on had
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suffered none of them are quite i'm
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believing on this and or
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doesn't seem like as are certain to pull off the ruse
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very well at first but before we get into
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that let's take that quick break
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as sir has come over from the cerny it seems
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like she's come up with a pretty good ruse to worm
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her way into this family but she almost immediately
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starts making mistakes which
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raised suspicions asked ft one tough matters
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a little on the fly back on which is
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to be set at one point during the slide see like
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steals a pile of our ten sites like punching
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up there are plans bathroom like
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i i really can't overemphasize half on his
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recess ah but on this plane
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back to the united states he sort of forgets
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sort post of is the didn't know that her grandmother
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his dad his says i can we there and
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julia stiles evil was platypus
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moments is like mom i
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like eatontown like eatontown something's not right and
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then later and a therapist's office see
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runs over and somehow i learned the parents
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name and the therapist's office but it's
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the wrong parrot apparently it's and the for you she
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was gone parents have one hundred years this
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one died and listen to parrot
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as he calls a by the wrong name it's a different kind
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of parents this comes up multiple times in the
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movie like all because our parents
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but not all parents are macaws or something like
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that as of highness actually spoke and ah
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and so a sort of becomes clear that this
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is fucking up a little bit you
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know to give a picture of the families are the father is
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this like brooding artists type who really
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hurt from the loss of his daughter the mom
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is like a flat emphasis on kind who like
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do now for reasons that will learn charlotte's
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his last broke out about the death of her daughter and
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then there's the sign right and so the
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thing with lean amps is as she
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really loves her father's of these
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families that sort of her saying
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so she starts to get like really aggressive herself
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at the father while the mother and son kind
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of look at her intellect more alien foreign
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way and crv saves clearly
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wants to bone hams is thirty one not you
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know nine or whatever and ,
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see it you know sort of response
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or overtures positively of first if
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not really understand exactly what his responding
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to so that as i sort of the dynamic
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of this movie that's what kind of what's
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going on but there is
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someone in particular who notices
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that she's not exactly right
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and that as a detective who investigated
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the disappearance of a little girl originally
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and , says kind of socking around the house and taking
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pictures of public and stuff it's really it's
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i don't know what it is that sets him off exactly
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but stands of coming to their house
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one night when the parents are
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out out a sort of a
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porn scene because the parents
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i don't know there are some kind of fundraiser or something and
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the sun has and the
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and as to sort of reveals herself to him a little
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bear two thousand dollars fuck off immediately in
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front of his friends he , like openly
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mean to her basically and you
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started to get a little and a little more but
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as detective shows up and he
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says it's he steals a vinyl
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record i believe it is the has her fingerprints
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on has her suspects this is not as she says yes
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a cocktail for himself with for some reason
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extremely sharp knife as a shot of
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now has grabbed her tiny bit sharp
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just as he is running her fingerprints and discovering
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that they do not match the ones belonging
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to the missing little girl she's
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setting but the stabbing blood
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goes everywhere is down the floor
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but he's not quite dead and then
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that's what happens though
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the julia stiles mom those
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up out of nowhere and suits him
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dead assists and
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i it is sort of like this moment
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of like was going on in this movie is as a joke
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hilarious sort of like fireside sat
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styles goes with a minute you're a grown ass woman
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reason i selena decides to tell her it's the
13:25
entire story of why she's they're killing
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this detective and detective see her daughter and
13:29
this woman was delivered sector because she
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doesn't want him looking further into
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further sadness is not their daughter because
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she knows her daughter's dad's as the sun
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til the daughter til don't exactly know what the sense
13:41
in sunday they were rough housing in some ways
13:43
and when ways little too far or something but
13:45
basically says dad and they
13:48
the mom us dancer in the bottom
13:50
of a while because he doesn't want her sons
13:52
had been i'll go to prison for daughter's
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dad it is what it as and my dad
13:56
doesn't know anything about as because it as because sweet sensitive
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artist sweet artist not clear it to me
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whether the mom story about like old
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gunner just always play rough with her and
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then one day are he got to
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ruff and she died of is meant to be sort
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of on yet another cover story or
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sort of her delusional version of what actually
14:13
happened like i it's that's just a little
14:16
fuzzy's for me but gunnar
14:18
kill dastard, has not been missing for
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40 years she's presumably been at
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the bottom of of the same well that the detectives
14:25
body gets dumped into esther
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has not been fooling is family
14:30
she has been involved in three
14:32
conspiracy to cover up esther's desk
14:34
from one person in the family, who doesn't know about
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it which is the dad and so now she enters into
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a more formal agreement with the mom
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and the brother to keep this
14:43
thing going for the
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betterment of all or those of none
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of them to so
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surprisingly the
14:53
perfect little suburban, family turned out to be
14:55
just a bunch of to
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with better breeding
15:00
and let the the assets
15:03
yeah let's let it be said that his his movies
15:05
like you know ah portrayal
15:07
of white has gone amok is not clear enough
15:09
the mother starts talking about how their family came around
15:11
the mayflower and her son's life matters
15:14
and they have to protect him and he is bloodline
15:16
is really important minutes to sites while
15:18
movie like you they really late onset but it's
15:21
like still you know the as has going to absolutely
15:24
destroy these people so it's see
15:26
become sort of almost the person you're rooting for
15:28
of have the hero of the movie yeah so we knew
15:31
that a twist was coming in this movie you're making
15:33
a sequel to a movie with probably
15:35
one of the most famous twisted
15:37
last fifteen years of
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course is gonna be one did
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you find were you surprised by this are you satisfied
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how you feel about the jewish down
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big bomb drop here they
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said before i love that i did not expect
15:52
to i knew something was not right and
15:54
something was going to in a move as can be flipped
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over at some point you could kind of sense
15:58
that it was i dancing around some kind of revelation
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and i thought this was really fun arm and
16:02
it's also displeasure afraid to see to your sales
16:05
and of likes really diggers he's into like
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a really dumb but fond role like this
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sees sort of been a long suffering actresses
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had a lot of like kind of city parts
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and see really leans into the as and
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i appreciate that i
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agree with our i felt like especially
16:20
as you start playing out the string
16:22
on this character that we now find
16:25
out is is is like about of rounds
16:27
ah i wanted to get the
16:30
her claws into a little bit more a draw the
16:32
about her blood there was something like a little
16:34
weird least he did about this for mean it's one
16:36
of the things that makes the first word movie work
16:38
for me as that of your for me guy who plays
16:40
the mom and that movies given it's incredibly
16:43
like because really
16:45
good very kind of committed performance
16:47
at the she's more like you get it almost doesn't know what
16:49
movies and and apparently was kind as eat
16:52
up pissed off at the way they edited like she was taking
16:54
this character very seriously and likes
16:56
wrote some original song on the piano
16:59
that the mom as mr and for as through that the then cut
17:02
out of the movie it gets it is real kind
17:04
of operatic quality arms
17:06
this is much more knowingly camp
17:08
as i think going into
17:11
the movie with knowing who s or
17:13
is a kind of has to be as a julia stiles
17:15
is it maybe like a and eight or nine
17:17
and i kind of water and more like a tetanus
17:19
now that's fair i think guy you
17:22
know anyone watching a movie called orphan first
17:24
kill that of frequency were two thousand
17:26
and nine movie about a person with like from
17:28
on all imbalances is like thirty one and
17:31
pertain to be nine i don't know i think that people
17:33
understand what they're getting into and i think that's why responded
17:36
to this movie decide and
17:38
i'm a joke a little more but you're not wrong
17:40
about the original i really is quite i've
17:43
the a monument to a certain moment
17:45
an actor is taking a script really serious like
17:47
it when it's you could have easily gotten another direction
17:49
there's a moment in this of in one of the script
17:52
that the cabbie as moment of it which again goes back
17:54
to the original business very clear that
17:57
as there's lashley enough op wants
17:59
to they have sex with her
18:01
you know her dad in this movie of which
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is technically okay
18:05
because she's in the thirties but obviously super
18:08
weird julia stiles actually comes
18:10
onto this and there's a scene at the end where
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she's kind of confronts as their
18:14
about this is like are you know he does
18:16
never you realize he's never gonna
18:20
you're right omnes at her
18:22
at it was a good will now going to go upstairs and
18:25
suck my husband on
18:27
and that is that as that mother where i wish i could see this
18:30
in a theater because theater would have been screaming
18:32
at that and i didn't feel righteous doing it alone
18:34
in my living room let me
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tell you i disease in a theater and
18:38
there was only one other person and thus either but she
18:40
definitely made it worthwhile see
18:42
was responding audibly i'm the
18:44
only other experience i had a theater was a guy looking
18:46
at my ticket and being like or from first kill dude
18:49
and i was like yap yap here
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i am ah
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most people yeah i
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agree i agree i most people will watch this movie
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on paramount plus a were streaming but
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a if it's in a theater near you perhaps
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you should give it a shot or do we were building up to our
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final confrontation in this movie
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times ah essar
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19:54
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19:57
but of course it is not entirely
20:00
sustainable all these people are too kind of crazy
20:02
and self involved and homicidal
20:04
to really stick together for long
20:07
ah as as servants really serves
20:11
julia stiles a breakfast smoothie
20:14
with a poisoned rat in it and that
20:16
just kind of yeah something's
20:18
something's off on a bit of a pass at that
20:20
point i guess the poor rad as
20:22
like as his only friend in this house and
20:25
for some reason julia stiles eyes
20:27
to size is just as as isn't gonna work anymore
20:29
for her so see poisons
20:32
her food one i estrus food but
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as her for some reason can tell her that happen and caesar
20:36
to the rat like kind of like a gladiator having
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it's like breath is stacked enhance
20:41
their rad dies and esters really test about
20:43
their so that's how the right ends up in the smooth aches
20:45
and how you get ticked off into our climactic
20:48
battle okay so what happens next though
20:51
the dad has an art show somewhere
20:54
and he invites us to the com but the
20:56
mom's like now we have plans already nesters
20:58
like what plants but days and of staying
21:01
on the dad goes away and obvious
21:03
is times for julia stiles
21:05
to get a business and get rid of this
21:07
girl so ,
21:10
ah esther attempts to push them in front of
21:12
a train to the deadliest this
21:14
is not go well and then esters steals
21:17
per car car mom's
21:19
car caskets ah but as
21:21
quickly apprehended by the police who know that like
21:23
she's not in us is a little girl are
21:26
seemingly a little girl and they take her home
21:28
at the police has a hilarious interaction with to the styles
21:30
been like a scene therapy and
21:33
asked ah there on there house
21:36
the final night and the gloves are starting to com
21:38
os then things
21:40
, to get bloody and let it be said esters
21:42
faces covered in blood through to there's a this movie
21:45
including this entire climax do
21:47
i take us to that sam sure
21:50
so as these are of of the was
21:52
his people in the face of the planets are
21:55
the weapons start to come out in his final confrontation
21:57
gunner as their first kills
21:59
with the crossbow
22:02
and then his own sensing a pay
22:05
stabs him to death with that's and
22:07
then ah the house gets set
22:09
on fire on the
22:11
to reserve system each other
22:14
around and
22:16
up there are no politically
22:18
coherent reasons i'm
22:20
on the sort of classic lead the
22:22
desert an italian tiled roof of
22:25
this enormous house on their clamoring
22:28
about for each other like we're in the hunchback of notre bomb
22:30
or , i gotta and somehow
22:33
and this is all all
22:35
staging of this is very good like it's does this
22:37
is the sort of weird that and suddenly the two of them are both
22:39
hanging from the gutters as the husband
22:42
comes home because and called by the police
22:44
because of that the man's car being stolen a whoop a
22:46
why she called the cops on
22:49
the the missing
22:51
daughter who was missing anymore is actually like
22:53
a thirty year old the sony washy thought like involving
22:55
the cotton that just because she ran off with their cars
22:59
the really clear the dad comes home
23:01
the two of them are hang from the gutters on
23:04
he has an opportunity to say one of them and
23:06
he reaches for astros hand as
23:08
julia stiles false to her death and then
23:10
doesn't make sure to show you that not only does see
23:13
your body broken by the false but
23:15
there's a very ill laxative like splat
23:18
and like a kind of very needy
23:21
exodus from or had is it makes contact with
23:23
a sort of a like granite curbing
23:25
block on and
23:28
, finally you know after in the dad
23:30
are up on the roof of this house
23:33
that is going up in flames effort
23:35
take this moment because of let her dad
23:37
know that your she really kind of love
23:39
to them in a way that perhaps is more
23:42
than a you know young girl might love her
23:44
dad a the dad
23:46
looks a little bit confused and then confused and
23:49
a falls off the roof to and he
23:51
dies or right next door yeah
23:54
i think what's happening in that final scene
23:56
first of all they this deaths are so graphic
23:59
and lovingly because they like really
24:01
hammer home how awful these people are like
24:03
that before gunner dies he starts talking about
24:05
this is america people like me matter it's like
24:07
really lane at aunts and so when he's
24:09
dying you're sort of like yeah it's i sort of
24:11
six size hates same with a
24:14
mom who's ago real monster but
24:16
the dad at the and i think what's happening
24:18
is that as to reveals to him that is really
24:20
like an older woman right i see that takes her
24:22
teeth out i think she has like sake t to
24:24
make yourself look younger and he like react
24:27
badly he's like a monster to and the and he's
24:29
ago your freak or something like that and
24:31
so that when seen awesome awesome on i like well
24:34
i guess i'll have to go ah and the
24:37
i want to course we know i mean there's there's another movie
24:39
to come up as as we know none of these people could
24:41
possibly have survived or the jag
24:44
would have been up on before she
24:46
moved him here for me going peter sarsgaard me
24:48
as all ends about where about where and and
24:50
on but in a bit as sort of suitably
24:53
gory and gothic sasha
24:56
yes and then i think they're sort
24:58
of ultimate ending is
25:00
that we now the astros going to ended up
25:02
a local american adoption agency
25:05
yes and they basically do exactly
25:07
the ending from psycho where the psychiatrists
25:09
the psychiatrists about like how wonderful the
25:11
child is and who wouldn't want to a doctor and
25:13
and the camera zooms reading on her face as she has
25:15
is beautiful smile that drops
25:18
to a psychopathic scowl rifle
25:20
return to black yes i'm gonna be sad
25:23
isabel from it and who is the actress who plays
25:25
this character was actually only twelve
25:27
when they some of the original movie but like rarely leaned
25:29
into the role and now she what i mean
25:31
how old is she has gotta be she was twenty three
25:33
when they shot this i believe she looks pretty young they
25:35
chose a good actress she she has
25:38
quite a bit of fun with this i sort of suspect that there
25:40
will not be an orphan third kill
25:42
i'm and that is fine but i
25:44
really was just delighted by the return
25:47
of this movie and if you really like dumb
25:49
things like this i can't recommend it enough you can get
25:51
paramount plus free for a week and
25:53
a you would do worse than spending a saturday night with
25:55
a bottle of one in this movie i think it's a good
25:57
isabel firming performance in here apparently
26:00
that to sort of a counter this differ
26:02
a little bit online that apparently most of
26:04
the they did some d aging
26:06
for this arms but is
26:08
mostly sir been a make up and enforced
26:11
respected camera traps and a few body double the not
26:13
on the really expensive it off the often very
26:16
unsatisfying digital processor use sometimes
26:19
i'm she's a very good actress
26:21
i'm susan up totally
26:23
non horror movie called novice last year
26:25
that i was really get that you should check
26:27
, if you want to see or do something very different
26:30
does not relate of i just want to cram in
26:32
a complaints here because is bugging me the whole
26:34
time i watch the movie they make a big deal in
26:36
the movie including in the sort of opening credit
26:39
treatment that the father was the stricken
26:41
his paintings where he paints of them have a day glo
26:43
pizza they have an extra layer the only see
26:45
when you turn on the lights
26:47
on and it seems like we're setting out that up
26:49
in the movie does be some like big revelation
26:51
that the and as her first pentagon and to some big season
26:53
something crazy i'm from an innings and then
26:56
split never pays off at all
26:58
that the detective of uses for some reason
27:00
uses a black light flashes to go around the house
27:02
and finds her fingerprints on the
27:05
forty five records and that's
27:08
what the most a piece of and i was really looking forward
27:10
to some like go to the purple lion
27:12
and there's like ya the fires of hell
27:14
or demon faces or i love daddy or something
27:16
robin something we never get that i'm
27:19
so that that was my major disappointment hasn't
27:22
yeah my boyfriend said the exact same thing
27:25
and i think what it's trying to do and this
27:27
might be a little bit too deep fan service but isn't
27:29
it in the original or sense
27:31
that there's like a scene where they do reveal and says
27:33
like sprawling profanities on
27:35
the wall and the second movie or something and they're trying
27:38
to baby explain why it as a c does that
27:40
and that movie like that supposed to be the
27:42
pay off i can remember exactly what
27:44
it is right sort of assume that was happening
27:46
but to not do anything with it in this movie
27:49
was a little confusing i will concede
27:51
of it is expected my complained about this movie
27:53
that it wouldn't be batshit enough because i thought
27:56
that would beat her job one it could have been a little
27:58
nuttier but i would if european of the
28:00
first film i was a vfw
28:03
would recommend this one if you haven't seen the first home
28:05
i would say watch that instead of this and then
28:07
stuff we know what is my first even though we've now
28:09
ruin the surprise of the original movie for
28:11
you but i do it going in and i still enjoy the
28:14
hell out of it so it will not spoil the whole
28:16
thing for you agreed really does
28:18
make an evening of it doesn't his early ninety minutes
28:20
he's indecent do it will to i believe that
28:22
brings us to the end of our discussion
28:25
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