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Episode Seven: "Pants on Fire"

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0:00

So

0:03

so what

0:06

she's so

0:10

well bad

0:16

ship. But

0:18

it doesn't then how

0:21

to feel. This is

0:24

the new realm. This

0:27

is the new realm. I

0:35

don't want a single word

0:38

when about that date. You

0:40

understand there is some

0:43

question about whether it was an inside job.

0:46

I would say he's ruthless. It

0:48

can become deadly. He's given certain

0:51

circumstances. Welcome

0:55

back to Shadowed Souls the car Barne Murders.

0:57

I'm your host, Karen Smith. This is a

1:00

episode seven. This podcast

1:02

may contain graphic language and is not suitable

1:04

for children. Previously

1:11

on the Carbarn Murders, a

1:14

trip to Philadelphia in pursuit of

1:16

Tony the Stinger, Kjino and his

1:18

mob had been a bust. Interviews

1:21

with Kensington natives Arthur Waugh, his

1:23

brothers, and uncle Luke Johnson

1:26

failed to neet anything worthwhile, other

1:28

than some rambling answers about who was

1:31

staying where the night of the murders. Another

1:33

interview with a man who claimed his name

1:36

was Harry Simon proved that

1:38

Simon was a DC racket insider

1:40

with ties to Philadelphia and New York,

1:43

but his answers failed to give any direct links

1:45

to the murders and his alibi about

1:47

being in Baltimore at the time checked out.

1:50

The Carborn case was put on the back burner

1:53

for several months until January

1:56

ninety six, nearly a

1:58

year to the day since the murder, when

2:00

Detective Theodore Volton got a note

2:02

on his desk regarding an inmate of the DC

2:05

Jail named Horace Davis. Davis

2:08

had already contacted the U S Attorney,

2:10

the Department of Justice, and the Superintendent

2:13

of the DC Penal Institutions about

2:15

his intel, and they all believed his

2:17

story held water. Horace Davis

2:20

claimed to have inside information

2:22

about the Carbarn case, information

2:25

he was willing to provide in exchange

2:27

for a transfer from the DC Jail

2:29

to another location to serve out his sentence.

2:32

He claimed that once the newspapers got

2:34

a hold of his story, that his life would

2:37

be in danger because he would be labeled

2:39

a stool pigeon a rat. Detective

2:43

Bolton interviewed him and got

2:45

all the details. Horace Davis

2:47

provided a handwritten statement during that

2:49

visit with Bolton and said an old

2:52

friend of his named Walter Oliver,

2:54

had picked him up on a corner in downtown d

2:56

C. Both he and Walter Oliver

2:59

were out on pear Ole back in August

3:01

nineteen thirty five when they met up,

3:03

and apparently Davis had gotten himself

3:05

tossed back in jail in the months since. During

3:08

their conversation, Walter Oliver

3:11

confessed to being involved

3:13

in the car Barn murders. Rather

3:16

than parsing down the details, I'll

3:18

let Horace Davis's own words

3:21

tell the story. This is what he wrote.

3:24

My full name is Horace E. Davis.

3:27

I'm twenty eight years old and I lived at

3:30

First Street, Northwest. I

3:32

make this statement of my own free will and

3:34

have been made no threats, promises, or

3:36

inducements of any kind honor.

3:39

About the nineteenth of August nineteen thirty

3:41

five, I was standing at tenth and E Streets,

3:44

Northwest when a man in a hub coop

3:46

drove up and said, I'll take you home. I

3:50

knew this man. His name is Walter Oliver

3:52

and he lives at Capital Heights, Maryland.

3:55

He and I had been drinking and he had

3:57

enough to make him talkative. When

4:00

we got to First in Rhode Island Avenue, we stopped

4:02

and I said, let's go buy a beer. He

4:05

said he'd been drinking gin and he was afraid

4:07

it would make him sick. We talked a

4:09

while and I asked him what he was doing

4:11

and he said nothing since I

4:13

pulled the car barn job. And I

4:15

said did you do that? And he

4:17

answered hell yes. Then

4:20

I asked him why did you kill both

4:22

men? And Oliver said I

4:24

couldn't get anymore for killing a hundred as

4:26

I could for killing one. Then

4:28

I got out of his coupe and Oliver

4:31

wrote out Rhode Island Avenue towards Mount Rainier.

4:34

I knew Walter Oliver in the Maryland Training

4:36

School for Boys, as he and I did

4:38

a stretch together there in the early twenties.

4:41

When I first read Horace Davis's statement,

4:44

my first thought was that Walter Oliver was

4:47

just a blow hard trying to get some

4:49

street cred with his blatant admission

4:51

to another criminal. Then I remembered

4:53

the case of Roy Andrews that

4:56

I detailed in Season one, where

4:58

Roy Andrews steps Robert Peterson

5:01

did the same thing on a

5:03

wire tapped confession to his drug dealer.

5:06

Was Horace Davis telling the truth and

5:09

did Walter Oliver really admit

5:11

to being involved in the murders? Well,

5:15

there's more a lot more. Skipping

5:18

ahead to April seven, nineteen,

5:22

Horace Davis was taken from jail

5:25

into downtown Washington to give

5:27

his statement again. The

5:29

title of the page reads State

5:31

of Maryland versus Walter Oliver

5:34

at All Murder of Lawrence

5:36

Emery Smith and James Mitchell u

5:39

S. District Attorney's Office, Washington,

5:41

d C. Statement of Horace

5:43

E. Davis, thirty one years

5:46

old. They

5:48

were going after Walter Oliver at

5:50

All Meeting and others for the car

5:52

Barn murders, and they wanted to

5:54

hear Davis's story one more time.

5:58

During the nineteen thirty eight interview You,

6:00

Horace Davis added a few more details

6:02

to his initial story, and he

6:05

was up for conditional release the following week.

6:07

On April four, he gave

6:09

the same details about being at

6:11

the corner of tenth and E Streets

6:14

when Walter Oliver pulled over and offered

6:16

him a ride. Oliver asked

6:18

Horace Davis how he'd been getting along

6:20

on the outside. Davis said

6:22

he was making out the best he could. He

6:24

was on parole from Lorton Reformatory,

6:27

and he was trying to keep his nose clean. Horace

6:30

Davis said that he could smell liquor on

6:33

Oliver's breath and that he'd been drinking

6:35

pretty heavily. Davis hopped

6:37

in the car and they rode out to First

6:39

and Rhode Island, and on the way, Davis

6:42

asked Walter Oliver what he'd been up

6:44

to. Oliver replied, well,

6:47

you can see what I've got here with me. I'm

6:49

just trying to put a little bread on the table and make

6:52

ends meet. I haven't pulled anything since

6:54

we pulled the carbarn job. Davis

6:57

replied, you mean to tell me

6:59

that you pulled at John. Oliver

7:01

then said hell yes. Davis

7:04

asked who was with him that night in Chevy

7:06

Chase, and Walter Oliver said a

7:09

couple of fellows. Davis

7:11

didn't press him on the issue of who else

7:13

was involved, but he did ask Oliver

7:16

how much money they got out of it. Oliver

7:18

told him either eighteen hundred or

7:21

hundred. He couldn't recall the exact

7:23

number, but he did tell the U S District

7:25

attorney that Walter Oliver was more

7:28

likely to inflate the number anyway,

7:30

and just to refresh your memory, close

7:32

to hundred dollars was stolen from

7:34

the ticket office, so that figure from Oliver

7:37

was inflated, but the amount

7:40

had also been misreported numerous

7:42

times in the newspapers. Davis

7:44

asked Walter Oliver about my great

7:47

uncle Emery Smith, who he called

7:49

the man in the Creek, and asked Oliver

7:52

why they killed him.

7:54

Walter Oliver replied he

7:56

recognized one of us. We had

7:58

already killed one, and we might as well

8:00

have killed a hundred. I've been laying

8:03

low. Things have been too damn hot.

8:06

Walter Oliver also said that they didn't

8:08

go back through Chevy Chase, but

8:11

took Connecticut Avenue northbound

8:13

through Kensington, which was the

8:15

direction of the bridge over Rock

8:17

Creek. Horace Davis ended

8:20

his nineteen thirty eight affidavit by

8:22

swearing that what he said was the absolute

8:25

truth and he would appear as a witness

8:27

for the prosecution voluntarily

8:29

whenever he was needed. Going

8:32

back to Volton's interview with Davis

8:34

in January of nineteen thirty six,

8:37

he didn't take Horace Davis's story at

8:39

face value. Volton asked

8:41

Davis why Walter Oliver would feel

8:43

comfortable enough to confess a murder

8:45

to him, and Davis said

8:47

that he would have to admit to another

8:50

crime to prove his point, and

8:52

he gave Bolton all of the details. Horace

8:55

Davis described another robbery

8:57

that he committed in nineteen thirty

9:00

three with Walter Oliver. He

9:02

said that Oliver had been in the bootlegging racket

9:05

and knew a man up in rural Maryland

9:07

that kept a wallet filled with cash in

9:09

his back pocket. The man was

9:11

an easy mark, and Walter Oliver

9:13

asked Horace Davis to drive the

9:16

car while Oliver robbed the

9:18

man at gunpoint. Davis told

9:20

Oliver he was crazy. The man

9:22

would recognize him and squawk to the cops.

9:25

Walter Oliver said that wouldn't be an issue because

9:27

he'd just kill him. Horace

9:30

Davis told Oliver that now he knew

9:32

he was nuts, and that Oliver

9:34

could drive and Davis would

9:36

rob the man without having to bump him off.

9:39

Horace Davis said they drove to the house

9:41

up in seat Pleasant, Maryland, and he

9:43

robbed the man of twenty seven

9:46

bucks. There was no shooting.

9:49

Detective Volton thought that the cheese

9:51

had slid off of Horace Davis's

9:53

pizza crust to admit to another robbery

9:56

that had never been reported, so he followed

9:58

up on his story. Vol and went to Seat

10:00

Pleasant and found Will Godfrey,

10:03

the bootlegger that Davis and Oliver

10:05

had robbed three years prior. When

10:08

Bolton confronted Godfrey about it,

10:10

Godfrey was stunned and said,

10:13

who told you that? I've never mentioned

10:15

it to anyone? Volton

10:17

had hit pay dirt. If Davis

10:19

was telling the truth about an unreported

10:21

robbery that he had committed, he

10:24

must be telling the truth about what Walter

10:26

Oliver confessed about the car barn

10:28

case. Horace. Davis

10:31

added that Oliver owned a red

10:33

LaSalle touring car and a peerless

10:36

coup to really expensive

10:38

luxury cars along the lines of our

10:40

Mercedes or a BMW today.

10:43

He also said that Oliver ran a bootlegging

10:45

place at one Street

10:48

Northwest. He and

10:50

Oliver didn't want to take that flaming

10:53

red Lasale on Will Godfrey's

10:55

robbery since it was easily spotted, so

10:57

they borrowed a Ford coupe from

10:59

a woman and who lived next door. After

11:02

the robbery, they went to one Street

11:05

into a back room to split up the money

11:07

thirteen bucks apiece for Oliver and

11:09

Davis, and they gave the extra dollar

11:11

to the woman for the use of her car.

11:15

Detective Volton needed to find out everything

11:17

he could about Walter Oliver, so

11:19

he went to the DC Vice Squad along

11:21

with Sergeant Leroy Rogers, and

11:24

they found an officer who had known Oliver

11:26

since they were kids. The officer

11:28

said that Walter Oliver would do anything,

11:31

including murder, and he'd

11:33

heard that Walter Oliver carried a thirty two

11:35

caliber gun. Horace Davis

11:38

said that the gun that Oliver gave him during will

11:40

Godfrey's robbery was a thirty two caliber

11:42

semi automatic. That's the same

11:44

caliber gun used in the Carborn case.

11:47

Continuing to follow leads on Walter Oliver,

11:50

they went to the Identification Bureau and

11:52

found out the woman's name who had lent

11:54

them the Ford coupe. Her

11:56

name was Mildred Oliver and

11:59

she was married to Walter Oliver's

12:01

cousin, Douglas. They all

12:03

ran that speakeasy together. Now

12:06

the detectives knew where to find Walter Oliver,

12:08

but they had to get more information on him

12:10

before they confronted him about the murders.

12:14

The detectives went to the Commissioner of Motor

12:16

Vehicles to check the registrations

12:18

of ANNIE cars under Walter Oliver's

12:21

name, especially that red LaSalle

12:23

and Peerless coupe that Horace Davis

12:26

mentioned. There was no listing

12:28

for either of those cars, but they did

12:30

find a registration for a nineteen

12:32

thirty five Hup Coop. Horace

12:35

Davis said that Walter Oliver picked

12:37

him up in a hup coup that

12:39

day at Tenthany Street. With

12:42

that information, they went to the house

12:44

listed to Walter Oliver's wife, posing

12:47

as agents from the Motor Vehicle Commission

12:49

and told her that there had been a mix up on

12:51

the license plate numbers and they needed

12:53

to check all of the cars in the yard

12:56

to make sure things were correct. They

12:59

found seven cars in

13:01

Oliver's yard. Two of them were

13:03

registered to Walter Oliver's father, another

13:06

belonged to Oliver's wife, The

13:08

Red Lassalle, the Peerless, and

13:11

a whipp At sedan had no registration,

13:14

and a Hup Coop was the

13:16

only one in Walter Oliver's name,

13:19

but the tag on it was stolen and

13:21

belonged on a Ford coupe that was registered

13:23

to a known criminal who traded in hot

13:25

cars and stolen parts. Why

13:27

would Walter Oliver have seven cars

13:31

and why was there a stolen plate

13:33

on the only one in his name. Walter

13:35

Oliver and his wife had only been married

13:37

since January second, ninety

13:40

six, and they were now living in Capitol

13:42

Heights, Maryland. Walter

13:44

Oliver was looking really

13:46

good for the Carbarn case, and

13:49

they dug a little further into his past. Walter

13:53

Oliver was friends with two men who

13:55

had been found guilty of bootlegging and counterfeiting,

13:58

and they'd been released on parole in

14:00

November of nineteen thirty four, just

14:02

two months before the murders. Bootlegging,

14:06

counterfeiting, stolen cars,

14:08

bogus tags, multiple vehicles,

14:10

a speakeasy robbery convictions.

14:13

It seemed like Walter Oliver had quite

14:15

a few connections to various DC rackets.

14:19

Horace Davis wrote down all

14:21

of the information he knew in a

14:23

sworn affidavit with the promise

14:25

to testify against Walter Oliver if

14:27

charges were proffered against him.

14:30

That was on January nineteen

14:32

thirty six. On January

14:36

there was a story in the Washington Post.

14:39

It was reported that two thousand people

14:42

stood in the street as seven fire

14:44

companies battled a huge blaze

14:46

at the former Capitol Heights Town Meeting

14:48

Hall. The new owners came

14:50

home at two o'clock in the morning to find their

14:52

second floor apartment completely engulfed

14:55

in flames. Two firemen

14:57

were seriously hurt as they battled

14:59

the fire for our. The interior

15:01

of the two story frame building that used

15:03

to be a movie theater was a complete loss,

15:06

as was the brand new electrical

15:08

shop on the first floor. That

15:11

electrical shop was owned by Walter

15:13

Oliver. Oliver and his wife

15:15

said that they'd been at dinner and came

15:18

home to find their brand new apartment

15:20

and his electrical shop in flames. This

15:23

happened just five days after

15:25

Horace Davis gave his information to Volton.

15:28

It seemed like Walter Oliver might have torched

15:30

his own place, but for what

15:33

purpose. The

15:35

fire marshal concluded that a portable

15:37

heater had tumbled against the bed and set

15:39

the sheets on fire, and sadly, the

15:42

Oliver's dog, Mickey, was

15:44

found dead on the second floor. Did

15:47

Mickey knock the heater over or

15:49

was there something more nefarious going on?

15:52

Detective Volton found out that Oliver

15:55

had opened up that electrical shop shortly

15:58

after the Chevy Chase murders robbery,

16:01

and surmised that if the thirty two caliber

16:03

handgun was inside it was

16:05

gone, along with everything else the Oliver's

16:08

owned. Detective Volton

16:10

had gotten the information about Oliver's

16:12

electrical shop from the Capital Heights

16:15

town officer, who was unimpressed

16:18

by Bolton and didn't care to share

16:20

much information about Walter Oliver at all,

16:22

other than the location of the shop and that

16:24

the Olivers had just gotten married a

16:27

couple of days after they talked to that town

16:29

officer the building burned to the

16:31

ground. Was that town officer

16:33

receiving payoffs from Walter Oliver's

16:36

bootlegging gig? Was that why he was

16:38

so superficial with his information to Bolton.

16:41

It's possible that the town officer

16:43

tipped Walter Oliver off that he'd

16:45

had a visit from detectives about the Carborn

16:48

case. To me, that fire

16:50

is way too coincidental to be an accident,

16:53

but there's just no way to prove it. So

16:56

what happened after the U S District Attorney

16:59

got Horace David has sworn Affi David

17:01

in ninety eight on what appeared

17:03

to be the state's pending case against

17:05

Walter Oliver for the Carbarn murders. Absolutely

17:09

nothing. The detective spent

17:11

weeks both in nineteen thirty six

17:13

and again in nineteen thirty eight building

17:15

a case against Walter Oliver for the

17:17

murders, But there's no interview

17:20

with him in the case file, no follow

17:22

up to that U. S. District Attorney's meeting

17:24

with Horace Davis, no further

17:27

information on Walter Oliver at

17:29

all. It just evaporated

17:32

and he was never arrested or indicted

17:35

on the charges. Why do all

17:37

of that leg work only to let it go?

17:40

Was it because they had no other evidence against

17:43

Oliver other than the statement of a known

17:45

felon what happened with all

17:47

of the vehicles in his yard, the speakeasy

17:50

at Street. Did

17:52

Walter Oliver go on the run after

17:54

his shop burned down? Did they look

17:56

for that thirty two caliber gun in the rubble?

17:59

Did they try to question Oliver's wife at any

18:01

point? Did the detectives

18:04

ever confront Oliver with Horace

18:06

Davis's statement about his confession

18:08

to being involved anything?

18:12

No, they didn't. Something

18:15

about this case file isn't right.

18:18

Volton, brass deal Rogers,

18:21

McAuliffe and all of the other detectives

18:23

seemed like they were chasing their tails, and

18:26

every time they got a good lead on a potential

18:28

suspect. It just faded away

18:31

with no explanation. They

18:33

stopped looking for the missing green

18:35

Buick that was stolen the night before

18:37

the murders. They let George

18:39

Bruffy and Lawrence Pettit off the

18:41

hook after they went to jail for planning

18:44

the robbery of the main office at thirty six

18:46

and M Street, even after Bruffy told

18:48

Petted he talked too much when the Carbarn

18:50

case was brought up by the informant. What

18:52

about getting a statement directly from

18:55

kW Gettings about him

18:57

seeing William Clark outside of the fourteenth

18:59

and Niece Capital Street ticket office on the morning

19:01

of the murders. There was no follow

19:03

up at all on Walter Oliver, despite

19:06

Horace Davis has sworn up at davitt

19:08

an interview at the U. S District Attorney's

19:10

office and the mysterious fire

19:13

at Oliver's electrical shop just days

19:15

after they went to Capitol Heights to ask about

19:17

him. Arthur Waugh was released

19:20

without getting to the bottom of exactly where

19:22

he was on the night of the murders. Harry

19:25

Simon had ties to the underworld,

19:27

and although his alibi had checked out, what

19:29

else did he know? And what the hell

19:31

happened to Francis Gregory, the

19:33

man who supposedly slept through four

19:35

gunshots in the next room at the Chevy Chase

19:37

ticket office. What else did he know? And

19:40

why wasn't he pressed harder for information?

19:43

Why were all of these men let go without

19:45

any further investigation into their alibis

19:48

or to gather more information about what

19:50

they really knew about the car Barn case?

19:53

What made this case so damned

19:55

difficult to solve back then? And

19:57

why was it shelved for decades? Was

20:00

it really an inside job like everyone

20:03

thought? Or was there more to it? The

20:06

further I dug, the more questions

20:08

I had, and none of it made any

20:10

sense. For months

20:12

on end, I tried to put the pieces together,

20:14

and I kept coming up empty. I

20:17

was becoming obsessed with this

20:19

case, just hell bent on figuring

20:21

out who killed these men and why. I

20:24

was falling back into a familiar trap, just

20:27

like I did years before when a case became

20:29

too close. But this

20:31

one is close. This is my

20:33

family, my relative who

20:35

didn't get justice. I

20:38

continued my research on the information

20:41

provided by Horace Davis, and

20:43

I finally started to make some headway.

20:47

Horace Davis did give another

20:49

name in his initial January nineteen

20:52

thirty six statement. The man

20:54

was a good friend of Walter Oliver's,

20:57

who was currently serving eight years

20:59

at the Earland State Penitentiary.

21:01

Oliver's friend's name was Robert

21:04

Janny. I found out that

21:06

he had a laundry list of

21:08

arrests. Janny and his

21:10

mother, Josephine Graham,

21:13

had been arrested for trafficking

21:15

heroin in July of nineteen thirty

21:17

in what was termed the biggest narcotics

21:20

bust in the history of the East Coast.

21:23

The heroine was being shipped to Washington

21:25

via New York and New Jersey by two

21:28

gangsters, and Robert Janny and his

21:30

mother, Josephine were the main distributors

21:33

in the district. Robert Janny

21:35

had ties to both New York and

21:37

New Jersey in the drug racket. When

21:40

they were arrested, Robert Janny

21:42

fought three federal agents who

21:45

wrestled into the ground and they found

21:47

heroine in his pocket. His mother,

21:49

Josephine, was arrested as well, and Janny

21:51

tried to get her off the hook by insisting

21:53

that the drugs found in her purse were his,

21:56

but the investigators didn't buy it. They

21:59

were both taken to d C jail. That

22:01

was in July of nineteen thirty The

22:03

charges were either dropped or

22:05

they both received very short

22:08

sentences, because just two years

22:10

later, on July two,

22:12

Robert Jenny was arrested for d

22:15

u I and reckless driving on

22:17

July six. The next day, he

22:19

managed to bend the bars of a window

22:22

at the Prince George's County jail and escaped.

22:24

A few hours later, he was found at his house

22:27

and taken back with the added charge of escape.

22:30

His mother, Josephine, died in

22:32

nineteen thirty three. Janny

22:34

was released from that jail sentence, and

22:36

in October of nineteen thirty five,

22:39

he was arrested again, this time

22:41

for breaking his wife's nose

22:44

during a domestic While he was serving

22:46

three months in jail for that. An

22:49

investigation into an armed robbery

22:51

and assault that happened the week prior

22:53

to the domestic netted Jenny eight

22:56

years. The victim of the

22:58

robbery, a man named Samuel

23:00

Weiss, was on the steps of his house

23:02

at around eleven o'clock at night. Two

23:04

men snuck up on him and he felt

23:06

the muzzle of a revolver against his head.

23:09

The two men took three hundred dollars from

23:11

Samuel Weiss's wallet and ran down

23:13

an alley. One suspect, Ernest

23:16

Tyler, was arrested first because

23:19

he was employed by Samuel Weiss

23:21

and was identified by the victim.

23:23

Ernest Tyler eventually came off the name of

23:25

his accomplice, Robert Jenny. The

23:28

police got a signed statement from Jenny

23:30

which said that Ernest Tyler planned

23:32

the hold up and purchased the gun that

23:35

Robert Jenny used, while Tyler

23:37

took the money. Jenny was charged

23:39

as the gunman. That is

23:42

quite a rap sheet. Continuing

23:44

their investigation into the statements of Horace

23:47

Davis about Walter Oliver's

23:49

friendship with Robert Jenny, Detective

23:52

Volton went to Baltimore to talk

23:54

with Robert Jenny's wife, Lillian.

23:57

She was twenty four years old and living

23:59

on Afford Street with their daughter, Josephine,

24:02

no doubt named after Robert's mother.

24:05

Lillian was still pretty piste

24:08

off at her husband for breaking her

24:10

nose, and she was more than

24:12

willing to talk with the detectives about what

24:14

she knew. Lillian said

24:16

that Robert Jenny had been employed at

24:18

the Baltimore Salesbrook Company as

24:20

a watchman, and he never worked

24:22

on Sunday nights or Mondays during the day.

24:25

Recall that the murders happened early Monday

24:27

morning, January one. When

24:29

the detectives asked Lilian if she could remember

24:32

anything unusual about her husband back

24:34

in January of nineteen thirty five,

24:37

she said that one morning did stand

24:39

out in her mind. Robert

24:41

Janny came home early one morning and

24:44

his pants were wet all

24:46

the way up to the knees. She

24:48

said. He sat around all day staring at

24:50

the walls, acting very nervous. That

24:53

afternoon, an insurance salesman

24:55

knocked on the door and Janny about

24:58

jumped out of his chair. Detective

25:01

Volton asked her if she could remember any

25:03

of the names of the men that Janny ran

25:05

around with, either in Baltimore or

25:07

in d c. And he showed Lilian

25:10

an array of photographs on the coffee table.

25:13

Lilian looked the photos over carefully,

25:15

and she picked one up. She said,

25:18

isn't this a Baltimore man? I have seen

25:21

him with my husband at Baltimore in gay

25:23

streets. He introduced us, and

25:25

I think he said his name is Clarklin

25:28

or Franklin. It

25:30

was William Franklin Clark.

25:37

If you have information about the Carborn murders,

25:40

go to the Shattered Souls Facebook page

25:42

and leave a message. Opening

25:45

music by Sam Johnson at Sam Johnson

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25:49

by Kevin McLoud at incompatech

25:51

dot com. Shattered Souls the Carborn

25:54

Murders as produced by Karen Smith and Angel

25:56

Hart Productions.

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