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So
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so what
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she's so
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well bad
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ship. But
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it doesn't then how
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to feel. This is
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the new realm. This
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is the new realm. I
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don't want a single word
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when about that date. You
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understand there is some
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question about whether it was an inside job.
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I would say he's ruthless. It
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can become deadly. He's given certain
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circumstances. Welcome
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back to Shadowed Souls the car Barne Murders.
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I'm your host, Karen Smith. This is a
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episode seven. This podcast
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may contain graphic language and is not suitable
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for children. Previously
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on the Carbarn Murders, a
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trip to Philadelphia in pursuit of
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Tony the Stinger, Kjino and his
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mob had been a bust. Interviews
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with Kensington natives Arthur Waugh, his
1:23
brothers, and uncle Luke Johnson
1:26
failed to neet anything worthwhile, other
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than some rambling answers about who was
1:31
staying where the night of the murders. Another
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interview with a man who claimed his name
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was Harry Simon proved that
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Simon was a DC racket insider
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with ties to Philadelphia and New York,
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but his answers failed to give any direct links
1:45
to the murders and his alibi about
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being in Baltimore at the time checked out.
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The Carborn case was put on the back burner
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for several months until January
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ninety six, nearly a
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year to the day since the murder, when
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Detective Theodore Volton got a note
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on his desk regarding an inmate of the DC
2:05
Jail named Horace Davis. Davis
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had already contacted the U S Attorney,
2:10
the Department of Justice, and the Superintendent
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of the DC Penal Institutions about
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his intel, and they all believed his
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story held water. Horace Davis
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claimed to have inside information
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about the Carbarn case, information
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he was willing to provide in exchange
2:27
for a transfer from the DC Jail
2:29
to another location to serve out his sentence.
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He claimed that once the newspapers got
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a hold of his story, that his life would
2:37
be in danger because he would be labeled
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a stool pigeon a rat. Detective
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Bolton interviewed him and got
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all the details. Horace Davis
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provided a handwritten statement during that
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visit with Bolton and said an old
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friend of his named Walter Oliver,
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had picked him up on a corner in downtown d
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C. Both he and Walter Oliver
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were out on pear Ole back in August
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nineteen thirty five when they met up,
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and apparently Davis had gotten himself
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tossed back in jail in the months since. During
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their conversation, Walter Oliver
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confessed to being involved
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in the car Barn murders. Rather
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than parsing down the details, I'll
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let Horace Davis's own words
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tell the story. This is what he wrote.
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My full name is Horace E. Davis.
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I'm twenty eight years old and I lived at
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First Street, Northwest. I
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make this statement of my own free will and
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have been made no threats, promises, or
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inducements of any kind honor.
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About the nineteenth of August nineteen thirty
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five, I was standing at tenth and E Streets,
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Northwest when a man in a hub coop
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drove up and said, I'll take you home. I
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knew this man. His name is Walter Oliver
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and he lives at Capital Heights, Maryland.
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He and I had been drinking and he had
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enough to make him talkative. When
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we got to First in Rhode Island Avenue, we stopped
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and I said, let's go buy a beer. He
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said he'd been drinking gin and he was afraid
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it would make him sick. We talked a
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while and I asked him what he was doing
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and he said nothing since I
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pulled the car barn job. And I
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said did you do that? And he
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answered hell yes. Then
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I asked him why did you kill both
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men? And Oliver said I
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couldn't get anymore for killing a hundred as
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I could for killing one. Then
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I got out of his coupe and Oliver
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wrote out Rhode Island Avenue towards Mount Rainier.
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I knew Walter Oliver in the Maryland Training
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School for Boys, as he and I did
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a stretch together there in the early twenties.
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When I first read Horace Davis's statement,
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my first thought was that Walter Oliver was
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just a blow hard trying to get some
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street cred with his blatant admission
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to another criminal. Then I remembered
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the case of Roy Andrews that
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I detailed in Season one, where
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Roy Andrews steps Robert Peterson
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did the same thing on a
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wire tapped confession to his drug dealer.
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Was Horace Davis telling the truth and
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did Walter Oliver really admit
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to being involved in the murders? Well,
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there's more a lot more. Skipping
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ahead to April seven, nineteen,
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Horace Davis was taken from jail
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into downtown Washington to give
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his statement again. The
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title of the page reads State
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of Maryland versus Walter Oliver
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at All Murder of Lawrence
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Emery Smith and James Mitchell u
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S. District Attorney's Office, Washington,
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d C. Statement of Horace
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E. Davis, thirty one years
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old. They
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were going after Walter Oliver at
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All Meeting and others for the car
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Barn murders, and they wanted to
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hear Davis's story one more time.
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During the nineteen thirty eight interview You,
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Horace Davis added a few more details
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to his initial story, and he
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was up for conditional release the following week.
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On April four, he gave
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the same details about being at
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the corner of tenth and E Streets
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when Walter Oliver pulled over and offered
6:16
him a ride. Oliver asked
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Horace Davis how he'd been getting along
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on the outside. Davis said
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he was making out the best he could. He
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was on parole from Lorton Reformatory,
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and he was trying to keep his nose clean. Horace
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Davis said that he could smell liquor on
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Oliver's breath and that he'd been drinking
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pretty heavily. Davis hopped
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in the car and they rode out to First
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and Rhode Island, and on the way, Davis
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asked Walter Oliver what he'd been up
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to. Oliver replied, well,
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you can see what I've got here with me. I'm
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just trying to put a little bread on the table and make
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ends meet. I haven't pulled anything since
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we pulled the carbarn job. Davis
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replied, you mean to tell me
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that you pulled at John. Oliver
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then said hell yes. Davis
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asked who was with him that night in Chevy
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Chase, and Walter Oliver said a
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couple of fellows. Davis
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didn't press him on the issue of who else
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was involved, but he did ask Oliver
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how much money they got out of it. Oliver
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told him either eighteen hundred or
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hundred. He couldn't recall the exact
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number, but he did tell the U S District
7:25
attorney that Walter Oliver was more
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likely to inflate the number anyway,
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and just to refresh your memory, close
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to hundred dollars was stolen from
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the ticket office, so that figure from Oliver
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was inflated, but the amount
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had also been misreported numerous
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times in the newspapers. Davis
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asked Walter Oliver about my great
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uncle Emery Smith, who he called
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the man in the Creek, and asked Oliver
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why they killed him.
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Walter Oliver replied he
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recognized one of us. We had
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already killed one, and we might as well
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have killed a hundred. I've been laying
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low. Things have been too damn hot.
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Walter Oliver also said that they didn't
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go back through Chevy Chase, but
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took Connecticut Avenue northbound
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through Kensington, which was the
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direction of the bridge over Rock
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Creek. Horace Davis ended
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his nineteen thirty eight affidavit by
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swearing that what he said was the absolute
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truth and he would appear as a witness
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for the prosecution voluntarily
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whenever he was needed. Going
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back to Volton's interview with Davis
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in January of nineteen thirty six,
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he didn't take Horace Davis's story at
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face value. Volton asked
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Davis why Walter Oliver would feel
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comfortable enough to confess a murder
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to him, and Davis said
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that he would have to admit to another
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crime to prove his point, and
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he gave Bolton all of the details. Horace
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Davis described another robbery
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that he committed in nineteen thirty
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three with Walter Oliver. He
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said that Oliver had been in the bootlegging racket
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and knew a man up in rural Maryland
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that kept a wallet filled with cash in
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his back pocket. The man was
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an easy mark, and Walter Oliver
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asked Horace Davis to drive the
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car while Oliver robbed the
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man at gunpoint. Davis told
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Oliver he was crazy. The man
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would recognize him and squawk to the cops.
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Walter Oliver said that wouldn't be an issue because
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he'd just kill him. Horace
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Davis told Oliver that now he knew
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he was nuts, and that Oliver
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could drive and Davis would
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rob the man without having to bump him off.
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Horace Davis said they drove to the house
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up in seat Pleasant, Maryland, and he
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robbed the man of twenty seven
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bucks. There was no shooting.
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Detective Volton thought that the cheese
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had slid off of Horace Davis's
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pizza crust to admit to another robbery
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that had never been reported, so he followed
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up on his story. Vol and went to Seat
10:00
Pleasant and found Will Godfrey,
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the bootlegger that Davis and Oliver
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had robbed three years prior. When
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Bolton confronted Godfrey about it,
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Godfrey was stunned and said,
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who told you that? I've never mentioned
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it to anyone? Volton
10:17
had hit pay dirt. If Davis
10:19
was telling the truth about an unreported
10:21
robbery that he had committed, he
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must be telling the truth about what Walter
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Oliver confessed about the car barn
10:28
case. Horace. Davis
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added that Oliver owned a red
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LaSalle touring car and a peerless
10:36
coup to really expensive
10:38
luxury cars along the lines of our
10:40
Mercedes or a BMW today.
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He also said that Oliver ran a bootlegging
10:45
place at one Street
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Northwest. He and
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Oliver didn't want to take that flaming
10:53
red Lasale on Will Godfrey's
10:55
robbery since it was easily spotted, so
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they borrowed a Ford coupe from
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a woman and who lived next door. After
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the robbery, they went to one Street
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into a back room to split up the money
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thirteen bucks apiece for Oliver and
11:09
Davis, and they gave the extra dollar
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to the woman for the use of her car.
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Detective Volton needed to find out everything
11:17
he could about Walter Oliver, so
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he went to the DC Vice Squad along
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with Sergeant Leroy Rogers, and
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they found an officer who had known Oliver
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since they were kids. The officer
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said that Walter Oliver would do anything,
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including murder, and he'd
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heard that Walter Oliver carried a thirty two
11:35
caliber gun. Horace Davis
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said that the gun that Oliver gave him during will
11:40
Godfrey's robbery was a thirty two caliber
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semi automatic. That's the same
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caliber gun used in the Carborn case.
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Continuing to follow leads on Walter Oliver,
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they went to the Identification Bureau and
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found out the woman's name who had lent
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them the Ford coupe. Her
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name was Mildred Oliver and
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she was married to Walter Oliver's
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cousin, Douglas. They all
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ran that speakeasy together. Now
12:06
the detectives knew where to find Walter Oliver,
12:08
but they had to get more information on him
12:10
before they confronted him about the murders.
12:14
The detectives went to the Commissioner of Motor
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Vehicles to check the registrations
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of ANNIE cars under Walter Oliver's
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name, especially that red LaSalle
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and Peerless coupe that Horace Davis
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mentioned. There was no listing
12:28
for either of those cars, but they did
12:30
find a registration for a nineteen
12:32
thirty five Hup Coop. Horace
12:35
Davis said that Walter Oliver picked
12:37
him up in a hup coup that
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day at Tenthany Street. With
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that information, they went to the house
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listed to Walter Oliver's wife, posing
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as agents from the Motor Vehicle Commission
12:49
and told her that there had been a mix up on
12:51
the license plate numbers and they needed
12:53
to check all of the cars in the yard
12:56
to make sure things were correct. They
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found seven cars in
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Oliver's yard. Two of them were
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registered to Walter Oliver's father, another
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belonged to Oliver's wife, The
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Red Lassalle, the Peerless, and
13:11
a whipp At sedan had no registration,
13:14
and a Hup Coop was the
13:16
only one in Walter Oliver's name,
13:19
but the tag on it was stolen and
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belonged on a Ford coupe that was registered
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to a known criminal who traded in hot
13:25
cars and stolen parts. Why
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would Walter Oliver have seven cars
13:31
and why was there a stolen plate
13:33
on the only one in his name. Walter
13:35
Oliver and his wife had only been married
13:37
since January second, ninety
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six, and they were now living in Capitol
13:42
Heights, Maryland. Walter
13:44
Oliver was looking really
13:46
good for the Carbarn case, and
13:49
they dug a little further into his past. Walter
13:53
Oliver was friends with two men who
13:55
had been found guilty of bootlegging and counterfeiting,
13:58
and they'd been released on parole in
14:00
November of nineteen thirty four, just
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two months before the murders. Bootlegging,
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counterfeiting, stolen cars,
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bogus tags, multiple vehicles,
14:10
a speakeasy robbery convictions.
14:13
It seemed like Walter Oliver had quite
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a few connections to various DC rackets.
14:19
Horace Davis wrote down all
14:21
of the information he knew in a
14:23
sworn affidavit with the promise
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to testify against Walter Oliver if
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charges were proffered against him.
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That was on January nineteen
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thirty six. On January
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there was a story in the Washington Post.
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It was reported that two thousand people
14:42
stood in the street as seven fire
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companies battled a huge blaze
14:46
at the former Capitol Heights Town Meeting
14:48
Hall. The new owners came
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home at two o'clock in the morning to find their
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second floor apartment completely engulfed
14:55
in flames. Two firemen
14:57
were seriously hurt as they battled
14:59
the fire for our. The interior
15:01
of the two story frame building that used
15:03
to be a movie theater was a complete loss,
15:06
as was the brand new electrical
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shop on the first floor. That
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electrical shop was owned by Walter
15:13
Oliver. Oliver and his wife
15:15
said that they'd been at dinner and came
15:18
home to find their brand new apartment
15:20
and his electrical shop in flames. This
15:23
happened just five days after
15:25
Horace Davis gave his information to Volton.
15:28
It seemed like Walter Oliver might have torched
15:30
his own place, but for what
15:33
purpose. The
15:35
fire marshal concluded that a portable
15:37
heater had tumbled against the bed and set
15:39
the sheets on fire, and sadly, the
15:42
Oliver's dog, Mickey, was
15:44
found dead on the second floor. Did
15:47
Mickey knock the heater over or
15:49
was there something more nefarious going on?
15:52
Detective Volton found out that Oliver
15:55
had opened up that electrical shop shortly
15:58
after the Chevy Chase murders robbery,
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and surmised that if the thirty two caliber
16:03
handgun was inside it was
16:05
gone, along with everything else the Oliver's
16:08
owned. Detective Volton
16:10
had gotten the information about Oliver's
16:12
electrical shop from the Capital Heights
16:15
town officer, who was unimpressed
16:18
by Bolton and didn't care to share
16:20
much information about Walter Oliver at all,
16:22
other than the location of the shop and that
16:24
the Olivers had just gotten married a
16:27
couple of days after they talked to that town
16:29
officer the building burned to the
16:31
ground. Was that town officer
16:33
receiving payoffs from Walter Oliver's
16:36
bootlegging gig? Was that why he was
16:38
so superficial with his information to Bolton.
16:41
It's possible that the town officer
16:43
tipped Walter Oliver off that he'd
16:45
had a visit from detectives about the Carborn
16:48
case. To me, that fire
16:50
is way too coincidental to be an accident,
16:53
but there's just no way to prove it. So
16:56
what happened after the U S District Attorney
16:59
got Horace David has sworn Affi David
17:01
in ninety eight on what appeared
17:03
to be the state's pending case against
17:05
Walter Oliver for the Carbarn murders. Absolutely
17:09
nothing. The detective spent
17:11
weeks both in nineteen thirty six
17:13
and again in nineteen thirty eight building
17:15
a case against Walter Oliver for the
17:17
murders, But there's no interview
17:20
with him in the case file, no follow
17:22
up to that U. S. District Attorney's meeting
17:24
with Horace Davis, no further
17:27
information on Walter Oliver at
17:29
all. It just evaporated
17:32
and he was never arrested or indicted
17:35
on the charges. Why do all
17:37
of that leg work only to let it go?
17:40
Was it because they had no other evidence against
17:43
Oliver other than the statement of a known
17:45
felon what happened with all
17:47
of the vehicles in his yard, the speakeasy
17:50
at Street. Did
17:52
Walter Oliver go on the run after
17:54
his shop burned down? Did they look
17:56
for that thirty two caliber gun in the rubble?
17:59
Did they try to question Oliver's wife at any
18:01
point? Did the detectives
18:04
ever confront Oliver with Horace
18:06
Davis's statement about his confession
18:08
to being involved anything?
18:12
No, they didn't. Something
18:15
about this case file isn't right.
18:18
Volton, brass deal Rogers,
18:21
McAuliffe and all of the other detectives
18:23
seemed like they were chasing their tails, and
18:26
every time they got a good lead on a potential
18:28
suspect. It just faded away
18:31
with no explanation. They
18:33
stopped looking for the missing green
18:35
Buick that was stolen the night before
18:37
the murders. They let George
18:39
Bruffy and Lawrence Pettit off the
18:41
hook after they went to jail for planning
18:44
the robbery of the main office at thirty six
18:46
and M Street, even after Bruffy told
18:48
Petted he talked too much when the Carbarn
18:50
case was brought up by the informant. What
18:52
about getting a statement directly from
18:55
kW Gettings about him
18:57
seeing William Clark outside of the fourteenth
18:59
and Niece Capital Street ticket office on the morning
19:01
of the murders. There was no follow
19:03
up at all on Walter Oliver, despite
19:06
Horace Davis has sworn up at davitt
19:08
an interview at the U. S District Attorney's
19:10
office and the mysterious fire
19:13
at Oliver's electrical shop just days
19:15
after they went to Capitol Heights to ask about
19:17
him. Arthur Waugh was released
19:20
without getting to the bottom of exactly where
19:22
he was on the night of the murders. Harry
19:25
Simon had ties to the underworld,
19:27
and although his alibi had checked out, what
19:29
else did he know? And what the hell
19:31
happened to Francis Gregory, the
19:33
man who supposedly slept through four
19:35
gunshots in the next room at the Chevy Chase
19:37
ticket office. What else did he know? And
19:40
why wasn't he pressed harder for information?
19:43
Why were all of these men let go without
19:45
any further investigation into their alibis
19:48
or to gather more information about what
19:50
they really knew about the car Barn case?
19:53
What made this case so damned
19:55
difficult to solve back then? And
19:57
why was it shelved for decades? Was
20:00
it really an inside job like everyone
20:03
thought? Or was there more to it? The
20:06
further I dug, the more questions
20:08
I had, and none of it made any
20:10
sense. For months
20:12
on end, I tried to put the pieces together,
20:14
and I kept coming up empty. I
20:17
was becoming obsessed with this
20:19
case, just hell bent on figuring
20:21
out who killed these men and why. I
20:24
was falling back into a familiar trap, just
20:27
like I did years before when a case became
20:29
too close. But this
20:31
one is close. This is my
20:33
family, my relative who
20:35
didn't get justice. I
20:38
continued my research on the information
20:41
provided by Horace Davis, and
20:43
I finally started to make some headway.
20:47
Horace Davis did give another
20:49
name in his initial January nineteen
20:52
thirty six statement. The man
20:54
was a good friend of Walter Oliver's,
20:57
who was currently serving eight years
20:59
at the Earland State Penitentiary.
21:01
Oliver's friend's name was Robert
21:04
Janny. I found out that
21:06
he had a laundry list of
21:08
arrests. Janny and his
21:10
mother, Josephine Graham,
21:13
had been arrested for trafficking
21:15
heroin in July of nineteen thirty
21:17
in what was termed the biggest narcotics
21:20
bust in the history of the East Coast.
21:23
The heroine was being shipped to Washington
21:25
via New York and New Jersey by two
21:28
gangsters, and Robert Janny and his
21:30
mother, Josephine were the main distributors
21:33
in the district. Robert Janny
21:35
had ties to both New York and
21:37
New Jersey in the drug racket. When
21:40
they were arrested, Robert Janny
21:42
fought three federal agents who
21:45
wrestled into the ground and they found
21:47
heroine in his pocket. His mother,
21:49
Josephine, was arrested as well, and Janny
21:51
tried to get her off the hook by insisting
21:53
that the drugs found in her purse were his,
21:56
but the investigators didn't buy it. They
21:59
were both taken to d C jail. That
22:01
was in July of nineteen thirty The
22:03
charges were either dropped or
22:05
they both received very short
22:08
sentences, because just two years
22:10
later, on July two,
22:12
Robert Jenny was arrested for d
22:15
u I and reckless driving on
22:17
July six. The next day, he
22:19
managed to bend the bars of a window
22:22
at the Prince George's County jail and escaped.
22:24
A few hours later, he was found at his house
22:27
and taken back with the added charge of escape.
22:30
His mother, Josephine, died in
22:32
nineteen thirty three. Janny
22:34
was released from that jail sentence, and
22:36
in October of nineteen thirty five,
22:39
he was arrested again, this time
22:41
for breaking his wife's nose
22:44
during a domestic While he was serving
22:46
three months in jail for that. An
22:49
investigation into an armed robbery
22:51
and assault that happened the week prior
22:53
to the domestic netted Jenny eight
22:56
years. The victim of the
22:58
robbery, a man named Samuel
23:00
Weiss, was on the steps of his house
23:02
at around eleven o'clock at night. Two
23:04
men snuck up on him and he felt
23:06
the muzzle of a revolver against his head.
23:09
The two men took three hundred dollars from
23:11
Samuel Weiss's wallet and ran down
23:13
an alley. One suspect, Ernest
23:16
Tyler, was arrested first because
23:19
he was employed by Samuel Weiss
23:21
and was identified by the victim.
23:23
Ernest Tyler eventually came off the name of
23:25
his accomplice, Robert Jenny. The
23:28
police got a signed statement from Jenny
23:30
which said that Ernest Tyler planned
23:32
the hold up and purchased the gun that
23:35
Robert Jenny used, while Tyler
23:37
took the money. Jenny was charged
23:39
as the gunman. That is
23:42
quite a rap sheet. Continuing
23:44
their investigation into the statements of Horace
23:47
Davis about Walter Oliver's
23:49
friendship with Robert Jenny, Detective
23:52
Volton went to Baltimore to talk
23:54
with Robert Jenny's wife, Lillian.
23:57
She was twenty four years old and living
23:59
on Afford Street with their daughter, Josephine,
24:02
no doubt named after Robert's mother.
24:05
Lillian was still pretty piste
24:08
off at her husband for breaking her
24:10
nose, and she was more than
24:12
willing to talk with the detectives about what
24:14
she knew. Lillian said
24:16
that Robert Jenny had been employed at
24:18
the Baltimore Salesbrook Company as
24:20
a watchman, and he never worked
24:22
on Sunday nights or Mondays during the day.
24:25
Recall that the murders happened early Monday
24:27
morning, January one. When
24:29
the detectives asked Lilian if she could remember
24:32
anything unusual about her husband back
24:34
in January of nineteen thirty five,
24:37
she said that one morning did stand
24:39
out in her mind. Robert
24:41
Janny came home early one morning and
24:44
his pants were wet all
24:46
the way up to the knees. She
24:48
said. He sat around all day staring at
24:50
the walls, acting very nervous. That
24:53
afternoon, an insurance salesman
24:55
knocked on the door and Janny about
24:58
jumped out of his chair. Detective
25:01
Volton asked her if she could remember any
25:03
of the names of the men that Janny ran
25:05
around with, either in Baltimore or
25:07
in d c. And he showed Lilian
25:10
an array of photographs on the coffee table.
25:13
Lilian looked the photos over carefully,
25:15
and she picked one up. She said,
25:18
isn't this a Baltimore man? I have seen
25:21
him with my husband at Baltimore in gay
25:23
streets. He introduced us, and
25:25
I think he said his name is Clarklin
25:28
or Franklin. It
25:30
was William Franklin Clark.
25:37
If you have information about the Carborn murders,
25:40
go to the Shattered Souls Facebook page
25:42
and leave a message. Opening
25:45
music by Sam Johnson at Sam Johnson
25:47
Live dot com. Underscore music
25:49
by Kevin McLoud at incompatech
25:51
dot com. Shattered Souls the Carborn
25:54
Murders as produced by Karen Smith and Angel
25:56
Hart Productions.
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