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and the full lot has been quite

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to see then that's your instagram

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three about crime fox or applause

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and the said tenure ellen degeneres

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his farewell to her talk so the

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mass kissing videos it was never like to

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hear that again and then that we

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open at the same list mailbags

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what the hell do you do your best friend says

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your wedding is becoming a huge

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financial that and success

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michelle how was your weight he

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was an interesting wait did anyone else

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listen to the college hockey or so on monday

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i can't say that i did i did see a

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wealth of dams is out and i thought that seems

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like something i'm going to ignore of else

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you have any idea what i'm talking about well i actually

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got i day

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they must suck but i chose to ignore

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it or like on wednesday

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is it like that beautiful phrase

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ignorance is delicious like i would

1:45

much prefer to have no idea what

1:47

was said isn't the phrase ignorance is bliss

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yes that i it's ignorance is delicious

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at my house is delicious

1:54

well clearly not so for me because as

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soon as i got a damn about this always like

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will obviously i'm going to

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check that out which makes sense as nowadays

2:02

because if you hear like a little bit as

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something you like dig dig dig dig what else am i

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going to find as i'm like ooh what else i avoid

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yeah exactly so i went deep

2:10

and by going dave i mean i just listened to

2:13

the segment that they did on us i'll have

2:15

you know for anyone who hasn't listened to last

2:17

week's episode of shameless we need a

2:19

three minute on one second segment

2:22

on causing delays advising

2:24

women that if they don't want their partners

2:26

to change their male partners heterosexual

2:29

couples is it up with a male partners to take

2:31

i'm a blow job or a hand job and

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train a pot flush let them leave

2:35

the house

2:36

all that you can you know him or career suicide

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you know that your memory for my memory was

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lead to steal the entire wait for it like al

2:44

segment on that was basically may

2:46

snot laughing annabel saying she

2:49

never wanted to think about us indolent old

2:51

in the first place and xsara you

2:53

and i made one small point about

2:55

there's probably some smart feminist

2:57

analysis to have here but we simply cannot

2:59

be fucked i think my words where he

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doesn't deserve that doesn't ,

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my smart feminists analysis surprise

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that the trial and jackie or shores had

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seven and had seven minutes

3:11

talking about us and that segments

3:14

and they produce or to climb and jackie's

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credit they really couldn't give a fuck if anything

3:18

they were laughing at us laughing at them yeah

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we have very common jackie i'm a producer

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bruno he has

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a lot of work about seven

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times i'm gonna give you a snippet right

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he got started to go anyway good to say he and

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he a snippet of that seven and a half

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minutes said

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know that i cannot you saw skin sorry but

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i'm not what is what is smart

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feminist i'd

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actually i saw on the on its

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the fact that they shouldn't be going out and

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seeding regardless

3:51

the gop and your poem no money on made

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his fantasy world that's all well

3:55

and good the with whom it also

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isn't worth something all about it the

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yeah you born the

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hornets he does like guys

4:04

men are born with symbols as bmt

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larry is it says i love it they know

4:11

what it's doing well they didn't

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play that they were saying that we couldn't possibly

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be feminists because there's another woman with another

4:18

show who got on her podcast and said

4:20

she does do this with her partner before

4:22

he leaves because she doesn't want him to chase they

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play that segment and then bruno says this

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how much better have a podcast the receipt

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or , minors of it's it's

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it will seem very easy last guy who other

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girls also girls social

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media not long ago they do ago least and

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you feel about people doing least

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that on my all that sarkozy i like

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what are you in the city

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as was an outside and outside decided

4:51

dropped off an outside in this is the i haven't done and

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what he here but i still feel that it's my domain

4:56

sorry i didn't appreciate them having strong

4:58

opinions and and the list set on what

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was the least i have nothing to do

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with like chocolates or something ah

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that

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european i can do it saves on what you

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did i need to tell the world we

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have been framed for this is like

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and cases mistaken or

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stolen identity bruno heights

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us produce a bird or from college at a yard

5:18

did a seven minute segment on us and hates

5:20

us because we stole his

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least idea and apparently rights

5:25

chocolate recently

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we never did at know was very

5:29

can see it mostly don't have them lot like

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that sort of are , generally

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so welcome to be listening and

5:36

bruno but

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i also do think he's right think

5:40

he's we should have the means like i don't

5:42

think we should have the me as either i saw

5:45

you know what two or three women on a microphone is

5:47

automatically work and i'm automatically offset

5:49

severed are is a plus a totally

5:52

a great success say the city

5:54

some sort of like podcasting radio

5:56

inception were now they respond to these and we're

5:58

sort of the that and then it never i

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don't

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or to address the chocolate listings

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where did you say that i know we did one

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maybe and forty eight he but we haven't

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in the last four years of i just love to know who

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is mistaken a forecast this is

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a case of mistaken identity this office wow

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what awaits you know that i'm happy

6:16

that we made a we complement of we noticed the

6:18

influx of listeners yesterday to the show

6:20

and now i'm wondering what the seven minutes

6:23

on college as your that did it and they they

6:25

are like the most syndicated radio show in the country

6:27

number one radios are happy with a mississippi

6:29

you have recommend a simple me i do

6:32

it's really simple i just want people to re

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watch little women

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that about easily handle that good rare

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yeah it was at my mom's house with

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my sister claire on saturday night

6:42

and we were kind of prepping for movie nights

6:45

and sub what to watch and my mom and i love

6:47

little women and my sister claire had never seen

6:49

at which absolutely blew me away so i popped

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it on and basically watched her

6:54

what's this movie and she was like bowling

6:56

by the end of it because she says it's her favorite movie

6:58

ever all i saw sleep He's really

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well. I mean it's where I fell in love with Florence

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Pugh like everybody else in the world. I think. but

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i loved Emma Watson in at Social

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Ronan and timothee

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chalamet when

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I called him Timothy shamaly. I

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i i mean I

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saw this a couple of years back pot

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sitting down on Saturday night and re-watching

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it with like we meant other women. Do you need

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to watch with the girlfriend's a sister or your mom?

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It is just a fucking good

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times. I won't settle Netflix. This weekend about

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your guild ball. San Antonio rating.

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I'm actually doing all

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the time and a person, one of my instagram

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to the music gentlest, I should say and she has

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a newsletter code. Poppy Oaks. I think

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i u s mommy okay that's

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fine

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you never doubted that it is , socio

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oh i guess

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anyways see right these paste this lake

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and it is pretty maybe a specific

8:14

but everybody else would actually

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give it time a day because the title of the pace is called

8:19

is as such thing as a korea said today's

8:21

journalists to go through lot about how when people

8:23

go into the media staring hard to take

8:25

passion projects and sort of not

8:27

and money for a while why you finalize the intend

8:30

for friday all of those kinds of things but eventually

8:32

towards the end of the pc kind of discusses this

8:34

idea that young people have a very

8:36

different idea about work to us and

8:39

that all the young people she's talking to

8:41

aren't feeling the need to land their dream job

8:43

straight out of uni and i don't feel these

8:45

intense pressure to make work

8:47

their identity and

8:49

i had so many people come back of my dance

8:52

and i was talking to people about it being like they

8:54

have very much getting the sense to and as

8:56

like a really want to talk to people may be under

8:58

the age of twenty five he was into this podcast

9:00

to be like is that true we need

9:02

a poll people and saying i do

9:04

you have this desire to climb the

9:06

ladder immediately after uni or maybe

9:08

straight after school or are you more came

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to kind of

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i'm half and see where you fall you want to so

9:14

he's one of my girlfriend amy who i went to uni with

9:16

and she was talking about her younger sister and sang

9:19

my and this is it does not feel these names like way

9:21

felt this pressure to offer even if you need

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to land a dream job they will like we've got a whole

9:25

career to do than snow thought very

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well as soon as i left uni and was less

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reaching out for three years hundred

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percent set the pace itself is really

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it will put a link enough so nightspot okay

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you didn't get one we know some listeners

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we're working with a small business in sweat a club

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it's not like they can put out ten thousand jump

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sarah like like i want to instantly trying to balance true

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stockists have completely run out of them sorry

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it's a little bit more of a timed like however you do

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need to get on preorder if he wanted could we need

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out there in the wild that we can grab yeah

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exactly an asthma said that the like

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what you want to have to be a little bit

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patient back knowing that wherever

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you live in israeli absolutely melvin at langley

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you need for gun five jump that there's also this

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tick tock i saw recently where about constitute

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it's about the gleeful did he buy them so far

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in advance the time

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live here film i like shumpert so

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now we got this let's jump into the first

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segment of the so nice because we have to start

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with mom and mom talk more

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on because he is all and one wants

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to talk about sports across ticked

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off but also in the granted yeah

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and sweet ass and reddit

12:03

has got absolutely crazy over this

12:05

before we get into what mom talk

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is let's talk to you about

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mormonism some people might be a little

12:12

bit blurry on the details of mormonism czar

12:14

yeah for so people aren't

12:16

perhaps religiously inclined that's totally

12:19

fine essentially a moment is a member of

12:21

the church of jesus christ of latter day saints

12:23

or other sector closely related to

12:25

it and they are thought of nice as pretty

12:27

conservative religious people very

12:30

conservative yeah mormons generally

12:32

believe that fateful members of the church will inherit

12:34

eternal life as gods almost

12:37

two hundred years guards mormons

12:39

migrated to utah where they sounded

12:41

salt lake city that's why we often

12:43

he jerks about mormonism and utah

12:46

in the same breath salt lake city utah

12:48

is like the capital of mormonism

12:50

and the hub of mormonism now

12:52

as he says are it is highly conservative

12:55

the churches rules prohibit alcohol tobacco

12:57

illegal drugs coffee and tea

13:00

sex before marriage is also absolutely

13:02

not okay same with swearing and gambling

13:05

we want to be aware that are obviously some people

13:07

identify as mormons and not subscribe

13:10

to the so lisa they will be catholic

13:12

sat there for don't leave a one hundred

13:14

percent perfect catholic loss and that's hardly

13:16

find yeah but still identify as

13:18

catholic now that's a history lesson done

13:20

but i think the important context before

13:23

we jump into what these random

13:25

drama has been the snake such least

13:28

sorry if you say maybe a little

13:30

bit surrounds and you like i don't understand

13:32

the full story where he to tell it t because it involves

13:35

a group of extremely attractive

13:37

extremely popular pretty

13:39

evenly fifth friends from utah they

13:41

always came up on my tick tock for you paged

13:44

doing paged little dance yellow dance long

13:46

time the yeah they often posted

13:48

photos together particular together women nice

13:51

always together and were commonly referred

13:53

to as mom taught at not

13:55

rated not rated rate that his mom

13:58

shall we just say mom top mom top now

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the goods laid off or queen day

14:03

if that's what we want to call her is tyler

14:05

frankie poll quite a name

14:07

suited to pay

14:09

influenza i may see

14:11

has three point five million followers and she's

14:13

not alone in having a huge following a that

14:15

what i mean by referring to the queen bey which i

14:17

know sounds quite high school with this whole thing

14:19

is quite high school yeah we

14:22

, make our own own don't

14:24

shoot the messenger but she is kind of the claim bay

14:26

with three point five million followers but the

14:28

entire friendship group like you click on any

14:30

of these women and there are so many

14:32

there's at least ten couples in mom talks

14:35

they all have like a million followers a survey

14:37

talking about a huge ecosystem

14:39

online yes i summon i've approached

14:41

the names that alice's say they don't have to keep up

14:43

with a looks as if this is for a little case

14:46

as we got kayla and her husband tight

14:48

to be married for six years and then other couples

14:50

in that friendship group includes miranda

14:52

or entice camille and samuel

14:55

bright and and mckenna and corner

14:57

and whitney all american ovarian

14:59

there now following the

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group is popular amongst seller

15:04

moments of course they often sake this

15:06

group often speaks about their religion

15:08

they speak about lot about their lifestyle they

15:10

all got married super young had kids

15:12

super young of course as well

15:15

but people outside the church like regular

15:17

folks who are mormons tend to love

15:19

this stuff true so that's

15:21

perhaps why this scandal

15:24

absolutely took off this week

15:26

there was already so much interest there

15:28

and then this wake everyone was and tiny

15:30

mind when it was announced that a lot and tight

15:32

with getting a divorce and and soon

15:35

after room is of that spilled

15:37

out online room is claiming on

15:39

top of it that said the getting a divorce

15:41

because taylor treated and hate with

15:43

another has been in the friendship

15:45

club yes and say hey we decided

15:48

you know what i'm going to address the room

15:50

his head on by doing a tick tock

15:52

live and basically confirm

15:54

everything that everybody saying everything system a little

15:56

bit more as well so see

15:58

said yeah i'm getting interval

16:02

cheating well it depends on your definition

16:04

of treating because it turns out we're all

16:06

set to swing in which basically is

16:08

she says swinging that doesn't go the way yet

16:10

here's a snippet from that video

16:14

we basically worry like all

16:16

open with each other on doubtless

16:18

ever going to come out because nobody wants to admit that

16:20

so i just have to come on here and least the

16:23

advice on everyone

16:26

, pretty much internet december december

16:28

it sucks it david

16:30

and i'm

16:32

sticking my shoes and they can stick there's stick guess

16:36

hi elsa doing this i love

16:38

, tpp is like what an agent

16:41

of guy oh yes it is hamada be like

16:43

you know what i'm telling the whole world

16:45

that we a swingers will and it's also one of those things

16:47

outside soccer if i'm going down a

16:49

breather with the me yes thousand

16:52

per cent sorry to say law and

16:54

another husband it turns out stepped

16:56

outside the agreement that the soft

16:59

swinging group came swinging with he is that

17:01

snippet

17:02

we are agreements like all of us and

17:05

i did step out of that agreement

17:07

ah that's

17:10

where i met and i are these am losing everything

17:12

i have so that is trails

17:14

on the were at a party

17:17

i got belligerent and we witness said

17:19

like by ourselves rather with the whole group one

17:21

time is a one time thing because we were so

17:23

let gone it wasn't

17:26

just me and this other person that had like

17:28

ceiling for each other and ourselves there were other

17:30

things other people have phillies and

17:32

on a

17:34

party has like like a car

17:36

still like every scene without her

17:39

you end up ,

17:41

out on is

17:44

that like we don't live

17:46

and saying our friendship group

17:49

actually swingers by the way guy has but i'm

17:51

not gonna name anyway the olmert

17:53

definitely worse than just naming

17:55

people because me out everyone in

17:57

this friendship to is implicated or everyone

18:01

is scrambling to kind of scrub

18:03

they named plane from this story or

18:05

another one came up almighty cuxhaven

18:07

actually with i remember who was that they

18:09

were like look around scrambling to tailor demanding

18:12

that see clues their names she's not doing it for a

18:14

on so i'm just going to do it myself he wasn't my

18:17

part of the as and i was like was like obsessed

18:19

with influences and celebrities who

18:22

know what their job is right i remember

18:24

when julie a fox this kind of the center of

18:26

a lot discussions a few months ago and

18:28

i saw this great tweet that basically said julia

18:30

fox is doing what celebrities have kind of

18:32

deprives us all for years

18:34

wheaties just being a celebrity be ridiculous

18:37

play up for it like any of us the story

18:39

that give us cities that is why you

18:41

are famous terrifying people as do exactly

18:43

that she's like i'm an influence our i share

18:46

my life with you which means i'm going to say all

18:48

of that she's leaning into the absurd i

18:50

will say i love it through but i was also really

18:52

i think maybe not easily shocked that

18:55

we have this group that is known for being so

18:57

ultra conservative i mean

18:59

members of a church way even coffee

19:01

and tea applied is outlawed

19:04

that they all swinging together like i know

19:06

that might be the most obvious point of all but i'm

19:08

still stunned that this is

19:10

the reality of how things are

19:12

in as we said things went wild

19:14

on tick tock twitter and reddit some

19:16

of the tweets we read got over two hundred

19:19

thousand lot like the amount of eyeballs

19:21

on these couples now is absolutely

19:24

insane i think there are also

19:26

being kind his side scandals

19:28

that have spun out as result of

19:30

told the funky pulls love on ticked

19:32

off because it was gone so deep their

19:35

investigations it's been revealed

19:37

that they were naked photos of to of the

19:39

wives on only fans

19:41

like racy scandalous for

19:43

that rallies and there has

19:45

been a kinda accounts belonging

19:48

to one of the husband's that has been uncovered

19:50

and now we're staring down the barrel

19:52

of three divorces according

19:55

to tell up three of these couples are getting divorced

19:58

in relation to this one

20:00

big scandal is the publicity

20:02

south somehow okay so some people race

20:04

that i've gone deep as we all know i'm going

20:06

out and deep into the nobles increases people

20:09

of licensees could have been a publicity

20:11

stunt because tale of frankie poll applied

20:13

for the real housewives of salt lake city and

20:16

she was denied

20:17

rejected that didn't wanna say said she

20:19

wasn't said he enough scandalous

20:22

enough dramatic enough yeah didn't

20:24

come out the ray weeks off as

20:26

she said that in an interview however is only

20:28

donald you

20:30

really think

20:32

mine is dragging their family

20:34

including two small children and

20:36

families of all of their friends through this

20:38

because i want to be a real housewives of salt lake

20:40

city also that fucking hard no

20:42

i agree with you my answer to that is

20:45

why really hot not that i would have some

20:47

people i would and ah yeah

20:49

or the other question i want to ask you guys is

20:51

who is the asshole he because as much as i love

20:54

this from halo like earlier i said i love that

20:56

she's an agent of chaos i live to

20:58

this is a very entertaining for all of us

21:00

over the weekend dude how to think

21:02

she might be the off whole know she's definitely

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loss i'll buy things can be true that i can

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23:07

and now it's time for the quick and dirty

23:09

every week we bring you the top five stories in

23:12

the rough and tumble of the celebrity and pop

23:14

culture news cycle lane is

23:16

ever on our i didn't write for

23:18

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23:21

or two later mc donald's what does he go for me to

23:23

later always is

23:26

ah story

23:29

backyard says she feels unsafe in

23:31

mansion in spray are the crime

23:33

in melbourne that is from used

23:35

a called now you might unsafe

23:38

the story around as well got

23:40

theyre time got lot over time

23:43

if you a listening to this from overseas

23:45

backyard is a melbourne businesswoman and

23:47

socialite shes married to a former a

23:49

if and star called chris judd they

23:52

as a couple have a huge following

23:54

online that pretty big personalities

23:56

around the country and theyre widely known

23:58

for being

24:00

conservative yeah now if

24:02

he misses fine late last week see

24:04

to swear in scams race to say

24:06

that she wasn't feeling size in our own

24:08

home she wrote on his stories

24:10

so sick of the rights bashing and

24:13

home invasions at the hands of gangs

24:15

in bayside the state government doesn't

24:17

seem to cat we feel unsafe

24:19

i personally know to women who have experienced

24:21

home invasions in brighton in the last he wakes while

24:24

they're at home see also

24:26

in tandem with that commented on the instagram

24:28

page of liberal state and pay it james

24:30

newbury when he posted a

24:32

video about crime in by side and

24:34

say said have these haynes been charged

24:36

her or just another slap on

24:39

the wrist now this

24:41

naturally made me that the because now in every

24:43

sector talks about politics it tends to make

24:45

the news me as and i think there's absolutely

24:48

no doubt side op's that is

24:50

there a couple of people around you experiencing

24:53

a home invasions and things like that that is terrifying

24:55

lily saroyan can take that away from me that would

24:58

absolutely rattle you have known one person in

25:00

my life he had the home invited and

25:02

read me it's gary yeah one hundred

25:04

percent ice i don't think anyone can take

25:06

that away from back will take that away from the

25:08

women around her if that is your experience

25:10

that's awful but truthfully i don't really

25:13

like the way to events

25:15

have been politicized he by pictured

25:17

when we know that the area she leaps

25:19

in is one of the safest in the entire

25:21

state i think what's really important in for

25:24

i like the is like putting that sense of the motion

25:26

to decide that we spoke about his impact how

25:28

we talk about crime in a cell a particularly

25:30

in victoria because i think we have a pretty terrible

25:32

history of how we talk about it i mean dan

25:34

andrew said in a press conference that premiered and

25:36

andres in response to this i'm

25:39

obliged to point out though i think there are more than seventy

25:41

additional place in the bayside area and

25:44

the most recent crime statistics released by

25:46

an independent agency would not support the

25:48

sweeping assessments about patterns

25:50

of crime now as you touched

25:52

on miss about the stats like statistics

25:55

do so that crime and by side has been going down

25:57

in the last few years space i'd city council's

25:59

also

26:00

the lowest crime right in the southern metro

26:02

dayton said the last ten consecutive

26:04

years and i think the may given

26:07

out pretty horrendous history with

26:09

completely false narratives around

26:11

african gangs banding

26:13

around the ten gangs when we're

26:15

talking about crime when perhaps

26:18

the stats on neatly aligned does

26:20

feel a little load and i think it's all of our responsibility

26:23

when conversations like this come up to be hyper

26:25

aware of how these conversations play our

26:27

yeah i think so as though we don't have

26:29

stats for the last few months on crime and

26:31

bayside either yet we know that there's

26:33

been a small optic the bayside

26:36

local area commander inspector

26:38

path wilkins said as such yesterday

26:41

but let's just keep in mind the context

26:43

here beside each one of the lowest

26:45

crime areas has one of the lowest crime rates

26:47

in the entire state so list as be mindful

26:50

of thought yeah and the language were using

26:52

when they talking about it my second story

26:55

allen talk so finale when i started

26:57

this i couldn't say gay in daytime

27:00

that is some deadline the

27:02

is

27:03

i really do think cognitive dissonance is getting

27:05

emotional watching the law office

27:07

and also knowing episode of allen is happening

27:09

because it's writing fiddled because they had

27:11

they real toxic waste

27:14

isn't the point five i think we

27:16

all feel a lot about what

27:19

, enough to fill simply about the ellen show

27:21

or about ellen to generous people a complicated

27:23

and you're allowed to so complicated about

27:25

it so it's either as

27:28

, in nineteen seasons

27:30

allen to generous his final every episode

27:32

of her tv juggernaut show aired

27:35

it featured interviews is billy i leash

27:37

pink and jennifer anniston jet

27:39

addison actually made her twentieth appearance

27:42

on the show for this finale episode

27:44

that blew me away with me she's been on every single

27:46

year since it started yes she must be

27:48

a huge like hugely close friend ellen

27:50

that's something you don't realize about celebrities sometimes

27:53

is like you're right they must really close she was also

27:55

on assess of off

27:56

episode of allen really yes a

27:58

nice little sodas they're a sixty

28:01

their naps inhale opening

28:03

monologue ellen actually said that when she

28:05

started during daytime tv she

28:07

wasn't even allowed to say the word gay

28:10

this is what she said

28:12

the show i couldn't say gay

28:15

on the show i was not allowed to say gay

28:17

i said and home a lot i

28:19

you know what are we having for our day breakfast

28:22

the half against

28:24

soul has , seen the

28:26

gay remote things like that but we

28:28

couldn't say gay i couldn't say

28:30

we because that implied that i was with

28:32

someone i sure couldn't say

28:34

wife and that's because it wasn't legal for

28:36

gay people to get married and now i say wife

28:38

all the time

28:43

with that in mind me see the pretty remarkable

28:45

say what degenerates

28:48

was able to do with that so given

28:50

the backlash she faced initially

28:52

yeah and i think it is remarkable story

28:55

and she has had a remarkable

28:57

influence on this industry for a group

28:59

of people yes the stuff that

29:01

came out about her workplace needs to be talked

29:03

about him we need to make space for that but equally

29:05

we should make space for what else

29:07

did as a gay icon year one thousand percent

29:10

i mean it's it's a complicated legacy and i think we

29:12

can like seat with that i think we can say okay

29:14

yes you are a case of fostering a pretty

29:16

toxic work environment but

29:19

also you've done a lot for

29:21

a lot of people on him off in a lot of comfort for

29:23

a lot of people like watching the last episode

29:26

it reminded me a lot of those days he is it at home

29:28

when you pulling a city and it was he in the l and say comes

29:30

up and sees me incredibly comforting

29:32

person to watch on

29:35

i'm gonna have to come with the caveat of yes

29:37

yeah some dumb questions and yes you put some people

29:39

in uncomfortable spots like all of this

29:41

is true nine every single thing by saying is

29:43

true i found it quite interesting in

29:45

the last few months of the last season that

29:48

none of the controversy surrounding

29:50

ellen at all had any impact

29:53

on the guess she was able to get in

29:55

the last season alone she had oh prof

29:57

michelle obama and can cut assay in

29:59

it

30:00

just to name a few who i would argue with

30:02

the three most influential women of the

30:04

law five ten you know it's absolutely

30:06

massive to get those women on the only

30:08

other one i could think of is maybe re-enter and

30:10

adele would have their in that kind

30:12

of remit of incredible women

30:15

sorry look , have

30:17

you guys come to us it's

30:19

you're safe friday know

30:21

i hate vara said i thought fox

30:25

tell us about how you feel because i

30:27

feel because lot of things and part of me sad that she's

30:30

going yeah my third story

30:32

liam payne says there are many reasons

30:34

why he dislikes zayn malik i

30:37

don't agree with any of these actions

30:39

that is from entertainment tonight was

30:42

a we'd we'd story tonight feel

30:44

like liam payne his pain in the news cycle

30:46

heaps over news last couple of let's start

30:49

with daughters nowhere as well out

30:51

of absolutely no way he's really just come

30:53

out of the bushes and he wants us to talk about

30:55

him clearly now let's start with this

30:57

one direction stuff's are because

30:59

essentially a couple of days ago or liam

31:02

went on the impulsive podcast with

31:04

logan paul to talk about his time

31:06

in one

31:08

yeah exactly and goodness

31:10

may say eventually than half i threw the into

31:12

the into the moved to blame

31:14

former bandmates zayn malik and

31:16

the conversation started because lovins

31:19

brother jake one's got into a public

31:21

feud with zine and jesus

31:23

who was with design at that time actually

31:25

tweeted about it and sort of tweeted

31:28

that he was her partner of course of respect

31:30

for man snout liam jumpy and

31:32

as they were talking about the is and joked

31:34

that that tweet and i quote

31:36

didn't age wow yeah as if to say

31:38

zane quickly proved he was not a respectful

31:41

man i think we can wait between the lines and

31:43

say he was probably referring to

31:45

the room is or the allegations

31:47

rather that zayn malik shelves

31:50

his mother in law into a dress

31:52

or and called her a racial slur

31:54

yeah that was last year now when

31:57

he elaborated on a relationship isn't the time

31:59

to the

32:00

individual you striking bang my gaze not a respectful

32:02

man anymore and then he said this

32:05

the internet and i was all we gotta go your to the evenings

32:07

distill it just as many reasons why i

32:09

dislike saying in as many reasons while always

32:11

always be on his side the

32:14

via that to go through what he went through through

32:16

his grip is growth and and whatever else ah

32:19

my parents are the only sport is if one

32:21

were isn't annoying at times name that i have long as

32:23

i know and then they not a different

32:25

upbringing different upbringing sense and none can't

32:28

you can always look at the man's where he is and and

32:30

and say oh yeah whatever that guy's a thick line

32:33

for a denver day once you understand where he's been

32:35

through to gets that point and also with it whether or not

32:37

yes even wanting to be there and or so i'm

32:39

i'm so misunderstood mice by myself

32:41

more than anyone my car than the one one doing

32:43

the one he has like i can say

32:46

been declining because of whatever and listener don't

32:48

agree with enemies actions a compliment some of the things

32:50

he eats on a colombian he cites that's why

32:52

i can say is i understand and i hope your

32:55

only hope hope is that said some point in their

32:57

life the person on the other under the sun wants to receive

32:59

the help are you willing to give them a soul awesome

33:03

patients the guy was

33:06

because it sounds

33:07

maybe cheekily the lotta maybe fifteen

33:10

seconds sounds a lot like maybe

33:12

liam noise that zayn malik is really struggling

33:15

or going through something right now yeah

33:18

i think so that's the raid i got on

33:20

the quite but i just think it's kind

33:22

of strange for

33:23

the guy media trying to blame pain

33:26

to even be banging round the phrase

33:29

there are many reasons i don't like him yes

33:32

it is they then the public eye so long enough you know that's

33:34

exactly the headline that people are gonna grab

33:36

people are gonna go and listen to this interview

33:38

they just gonna assume that you don't like that yeah

33:40

i'm an issue that in context

33:43

knee he he's torn i think the overriding

33:46

feeling that i have is all he cares what about

33:48

this person he thinks is person is very complicated

33:50

and very flawed but he still has a lot of love and

33:52

respect for him it's a what

33:55

i mean even that full court this many reasons

33:57

why i dislike zane and as many reasons

34:00

i'll always always be

34:02

on his side it feels like two

34:04

different things are feel that maybe they're

34:06

brothers and they're not speaking any more like

34:09

almost a familial bond that

34:11

he refuses to settle it's

34:13

very clunky may like it's pretty

34:15

clinically why that it's also

34:17

interesting to me because it another pointing this entity

34:20

lame tells the story of how one point

34:22

one of his bandmates he doesn't

34:24

name that heard the bandmate is like

34:27

, him up against the wall when now at

34:29

the height of their fame and i got into a bit of

34:31

like a brawl like as and lane

34:34

basically said if he had these hands

34:36

you won't have hands i will cut them off

34:38

something to that effect i was

34:40

like

34:41

the you hinting that that was a as

34:43

well but not saying his name because

34:45

he's upset top of mind set is

34:47

surely the parallel

34:50

of the people draw people probably

34:52

will naturally droid yeah i also found that anecdote

34:55

really into think has that also was going to make headlines

34:57

and i'm wondering if at the time that lay in pain wants to

34:59

create distracting has also

35:03

gone you say that because he has

35:05

been in headlights that recently and they

35:07

have an old painted him painted the best or

35:09

most flattering light if you miss simply

35:12

put this in a quick and dirty the timing wasn't quite

35:14

that the last week photos

35:16

of lean pain with his arms around

35:18

another woman another woman's name is

35:20

ellie on a more law emerged

35:22

on line yeah fine

35:26

until you remember the fact that liam pain

35:28

has a fiance her name is may a henry

35:31

and she was not a set of they centers in fact

35:33

that she tweeted out and then promptly deleted

35:35

this or level of the fan so

35:37

much but please stop sending me these pictures

35:39

of my fiance wrapped around another

35:42

woman this is not me and it's hard

35:44

enough knowing that this has happened to that seen

35:46

it enough now we

35:49

don't have time to go into this fully but long

35:51

story short

35:52

henry and liam pain has cooled off their

35:54

engagement for with is

35:56

out of the first time that every on

35:59

and off again sorry not the first time they've called

36:01

the engaged north and now apparently

36:03

liam pain is in a committed relationship

36:05

already with alley honor

36:08

sorry my a henry's definitely

36:10

insinuating that he cheated on her also slightly

36:13

on my fiance not my ex fiance see

36:15

saying

36:16

the hot enough i've just found out my fiance

36:18

is cheated on me place or parts the photos

36:20

so i have to say at my mo

36:22

miley have you not do not eating

36:25

, to another my fourth story

36:28

is it over married at their sights

36:30

olivia phrase i is less devastated

36:32

as her boyfriend jackson is caught passionately

36:35

kissing another woman it during a wild night

36:37

out with the boys in melvin i'm speechless

36:40

that is from the daily mail binary

36:42

that a lot of other people in the country

36:44

have wanted to talk about nothing else other

36:47

than this story i would happily have these

36:49

be the last time we ever have to discuss

36:51

this again yes i read it

36:54

it , few this married

36:57

at their sights olivia phrase all

36:59

that matters as fact contestant

37:01

who is kind of embroiled in the most controversy

37:03

after the last season with accusations of bullying

37:05

and accusations lot of other things detail daily

37:07

mail that he was distraught after her boyfriend

37:10

jackson was caught on camera like

37:12

passionately kissing another woman at

37:14

passionately bar in melbourne on friday

37:17

now this is what the daily mail wrote

37:19

about the and

37:20

the detained by facebook group teatime

37:23

says jackson tongue kissing

37:25

a brunette bombshell for some time a

37:27

devastated olivia told daily mail australia

37:30

on saturday see as speechless t

37:32

f any fair enough a fun experience any one

37:34

once in a monogamous relationship i

37:37

and most intrigued with this footage

37:39

nice when we were looking at it the at

37:41

a bar

37:42

it looks like the life of like on my

37:45

to ruin yeah it's not a dock

37:47

bar where there is like it's tricky

37:49

to tell his that actually jackie could hide

37:51

in a corner and he could do this it's like so

37:54

dry and he basically has a ring lot on his yes

37:56

i am taxes on married

37:58

of decided i'm kissing another woman

38:01

yeah i've heard some comments it said it was

38:03

so late that maybe the bar had flicks the lights

38:05

on his if to be like get the fuck out yeah

38:08

closing that's what i thought it must stay

38:10

right regardless not have i but i

38:12

think using it to school whole i hardly

38:14

wants to give people tips on how to take but

38:16

like if you can do it you surely

38:19

not doing it when the lot for on surely not

38:21

solely you're at least going made we go somewhere

38:23

quiet and maybe not in front of a crowd of people

38:25

with a camera phone so they'll face yeah exactly

38:28

what's the most interesting that his story as

38:30

a lady is married at first sight nemesis done

38:32

many thoughts tweeted out when this

38:35

happened christian happened wet hard

38:37

at that max marks in it works out

38:39

here welcome back to max marks in this in this

38:41

go third mentioned on shamelessly

38:44

see a large now we have mentioned

38:46

him a heap of times over the course of

38:48

doing the show he was behind large

38:50

angle such wedding tins biggest scandals

38:53

of her career he did manage her for some

38:55

time next month and also

38:57

happens to represent both olivia

38:59

and jackson like a few

39:01

reality stars from over the years

39:04

in australia now the ideas

39:06

of the whole thing was orchestrated by max

39:08

marks and for publicity might

39:10

have some legs are as we said the video

39:13

was weirdly invite lighting

39:15

where everyone can identify

39:17

the guy at the heart of it it is

39:19

also a perfect story line to

39:21

stir up sympathy for olivia

39:23

someone who has been cast as the villain

39:26

and regarded as a villain for a long time

39:28

i mean i'm sure lots of women out there

39:30

can sympathize with the experience

39:32

of being cheated on or having your

39:34

boyfriend is someone else at a nightclub so

39:36

it's a good way to stir up sympathy we

39:38

also know that he creates

39:41

anticipation for what these to do

39:43

next it makes people garda their instagram

39:45

page it's made me go to live you phrases

39:47

instagram page more these lakes than i

39:50

ever have across the last year

39:52

and what's interesting about it he is when you go

39:54

to her page she hasn't posted anything

39:57

on the faint she did put this on her

39:59

instagram

40:00

yes many she said hi everyone

40:02

thank you so much for your love and support during this horrendous

40:05

time i just wanted to let you know

40:07

that although i'm so heartbroken and so embarrassed

40:10

i am okay i'll be focusing

40:12

on healing from this privately with

40:14

popped up on her story but as fade

40:17

posts she has posted anything

40:19

her most recent fade parsed is telling

40:21

the world that she is just joined only fans

40:24

and if you click into a buyer and pay like

40:26

out in our ten dollars you can get her content

40:29

that's interesting in that they could be a financial

40:32

element or a financial motivation

40:34

to getting people to stop her on instagram yeah

40:36

that said die max max and

40:38

as deny these he told the daily mail it

40:41

very kind of dumb to complement may on my

40:43

work ethic i do like to think i work

40:45

hard however this whole situation has nothing

40:47

to do with me definitely not one

40:49

of my p austin's i do

40:51

love analyzing that quote not

40:54

one of my p i

40:56

in an idea

40:58

you want to try though it is a far more complicated story

41:00

is i'll be his parole olivia was

41:02

rightly criticized for during the south she's also

41:04

spoken quite openly in the last couple awakes

41:07

about her struggles with her mental health

41:09

having been in the public eye and popping that

41:11

kind of backlash so did lot going on

41:14

on all sides of this right yeah lots of spinning

41:16

plates you've also than had friends come out

41:18

and say that olivia's going to move overseas

41:20

and have broken up so i mean watch this space

41:22

if they stay together will be raising an

41:24

eyebrow to be like this is an interesting thing

41:26

to have happened if they actually break up

41:28

and she moves overseas i think we know

41:30

well sure this is not as set up yeah my

41:33

fifth and final story carrie bickmore

41:35

patna accidentally strips naked

41:37

on the whole values from yahoo

41:40

now goodness destroy

41:42

is a bit unfortunate i'd

41:44

, it it , because

41:47

produce a patna he works on the

41:49

weekly was doing a

41:51

skype call he is obviously working

41:54

overseas with carry their traveling with their family and

41:56

he was on a skype call with his colleagues and

41:58

he didn't realize he's camera we're still on

42:00

when he was reportedly getting into the shower

42:03

and had set himself off now

42:05

apparently he told everyone he was leaving the meeting

42:07

but in

42:09

medium sized they were energy ah

42:12

, do that now he's name

42:14

is chris walk on the publication

42:16

reported that up to nine people witnessed

42:19

this incident with place which

42:21

they say lasted between forty seconds

42:24

and two minutes i have so many

42:26

bone to pick with that stat he said

42:28

it's a to would mean a minute

42:30

you see a colleague and not realize

42:33

that the camera is on

42:34

you get off the cold feet away between

42:36

forty seconds in two minutes which by the way

42:39

it , his his third season

42:41

or something because forty because

42:44

is a third of two minutes good

42:46

must say seconds mouth yes

42:49

ah both i have yes ah of questions about

42:51

these two surely if you have been

42:53

scott the or them call with a colleague

42:56

and you see them getting naked don't

42:58

you like

42:59

shut your screen to five seconds

43:02

yeah he'd be infinitely or new witness what's going

43:04

on yell at them like make it clear

43:06

you know what's going on right

43:15

hold off on get off

43:17

old close your screen or do something

43:20

to be watching it for two minutes just

43:22

sounds absolutely absurd now

43:24

the funniest thing about all of these is the apc

43:26

scrambling to prevent it from being some

43:28

kind of like huge drama

43:31

some huge scale scandal at the a

43:33

b c they told the herald sun

43:35

that they are in a court aware of an

43:37

unintentional incident and confirmed

43:40

that they are offering count or

43:48

oh sorry

43:52

sadly this is not what you'd wish on

43:54

us enemy and secondly that people

43:56

have to be offered counselling naked

43:59

photos get into the shower i'm

44:02

so sorry mister trees

44:06

one of my deepest

44:07

because fees which i know you have czar mcdonalds

44:09

because every time my foreigners in a room

44:11

when i'm doing anything remotely

44:14

like naked or raunchy ah

44:17

shit

44:19

get into my head that has gone on

44:21

the why on earth yeah

44:24

it's like it's got out of the sound of even if i'm just like

44:26

sitting in my tower something like or my thighs

44:28

moyes like thighs definitely subtler definitely it's kind which

44:32

means

44:32

the before he got into out if this ever

44:34

happens and someone's a has offices

44:36

listening hack into my account and delayed for

44:38

me so i wonder how is he has disappeared

44:41

why we're gonna have a lot of people

44:44

going line so i say tactical it

44:46

he mean it's like the my fear is not

44:48

going live it's just randomly uploading an

44:50

instagram sorry i didn't live would

44:52

be any better than much lauded our article my mom

44:54

at work and she'll kill me times during our

44:57

society , my mom has it causes

44:59

issues in isolation and she was bored as

45:02

anything and items on instagram when

45:04

i was word and i saw

45:06

of my mom and dad share an instagram account necessary

45:09

to you you

45:11

accidentally uploaded see screen

45:13

so the tail at home page with all

45:15

the notifications and notifications success

45:18

i have seen it within three minutes and i'm

45:20

like oh god so i call her another

45:22

mom you've gotta get discounts she's get

45:25

it's not clear how it works

45:27

i had are allowed see themselves as allowed out with the

45:30

fuck outta here i always you know even if it

45:32

was so funny numbers let's put away to

45:35

school sure

45:37

we were getting it

45:40

left corner these issues like i think i'm in

45:42

the red button believe

45:44

it's gone she never tell his

45:47

are you told everyone else is

45:49

exactly why i love yourself

45:51

i've i've been a condolences to trace and

45:53

condolences to chris yeah it happens

45:55

to the best of us will be on our you know

45:57

this guy that's

46:00

what that's the nicest the fix the roads

46:03

the you got

46:06

mail hi

46:08

the very powerful words

46:10

it is time for the shameless mailbag

46:13

annabel label you to us the on his soul

46:15

well this one reads hi go

46:18

not ladies is han hi girls

46:20

how do we tell my best friend she's interfering too

46:22

much in my waiting for context

46:25

my fiance and i have decided to do small

46:27

so the money overseas next year really

46:30

biting our media family in closest

46:32

friends

46:33

that informed all my friends about our wedding

46:35

and i'm getting really excited however

46:37

at the moment i feel like my best friend inserting

46:39

herself into every decision i'm melting

46:42

at first i didn't really notice or care when

46:44

she would bring up my wedding she told me she

46:46

wanted to help me planet and make it as stressful

46:48

as possible which i thought was really kind

46:51

and sweet but in a conversation we had

46:53

recently she brought up the financial burden

46:55

his wedding his becoming for her and made me feel

46:57

guilty and selfish for the decisions the decisions

47:00

i was under the impression that when it comes to weddings

47:02

nowadays we all know that going to be a cost

47:04

attached to combination bridesmaids dresses

47:06

and transport i hate that she's making

47:09

me feel like i'm the bad guy here i'm

47:11

also annoyed that she's turning into something about

47:13

her

47:14

the might have a reacting and becoming completely selfish

47:16

or is there a way i can gently ask her to

47:19

step away from my wedding planning help

47:21

me from confused bride to be

47:24

gay guy looks so that

47:26

yacht me is not some path that first

47:29

thing that sat with if with may if i sat

47:31

with the interfering that if you've got a friend who

47:34

he is trying to infiltrate or space

47:36

and make your wedding about them because

47:39

hike be on a surface level to

47:41

sat and say has it would they be annoying if

47:43

he felt like your friend was saying

47:45

oh no you should actually do it is so you should

47:48

have you thought about these se

47:50

mailbag was black and white which spoiler

47:53

alert and is no success i

47:55

would say be honest with her about it and

47:57

just leave it there like that the end of the story

48:00

right there is one lodge complicating factor

48:02

to me that really stands out under the is my overriding

48:04

question of is your friend interfering

48:07

trying the her and costs down

48:09

yeah and is she allowed to through

48:12

the us

48:13

what you're planning a wedding or movies if

48:16

i was trying to intercede keep my own costs down

48:18

and yours is not a destination wedding how

48:20

could i do that

48:22

if you're a bridesmaid i mean it's a depends how

48:24

each bride does things right like some bride story

48:26

i will take on the costs for everything i want you

48:28

to be my bridesmaid okay for com o paper

48:31

dresses okay food pyramid months the

48:34

bride's decide that it should be split

48:36

and that bridesmaids should buy them or and dresses

48:38

i've done that for weddings of the passport moon

48:40

shoes paid for kind of thing so

48:43

i can imagine that send best friends

48:45

might nudged the bride towards a more affordable

48:47

dress or more affordable accommodation

48:49

option shoes hair

48:52

and makeup people out there is a lot of costs

48:54

associated with being a bridesmaid sometimes

48:56

yeah and for were making the assumption here that easy

48:59

easy interfering to keep costs down which

49:01

is maybe what add that is telling our the

49:03

had it would be around costs associated with a

49:05

bridesmaid yeah and also on top of the some and

49:07

it's an overseas wedding so if the bride is

49:09

saying i want all of my loved ones on the same

49:11

flight or of off what airline is the bride

49:13

picking what time of day she picking the cost

49:16

of those flights this is multi

49:18

layered because it's overseas i feel like there's almost

49:20

doubles as triple the number of expenses

49:23

that this friend may be needing to consider

49:27

and i think some may it's

49:29

like become this overriding quests overriding stride

49:31

liable what sudanese friend

49:33

had been because i do want to go

49:35

gently was confused bad today but i do

49:37

have to be honest and say

49:40

if be sweating is causing

49:42

your best mate financial stress

49:44

that is something you need to one and that is something

49:46

you really need to i'm packing yourself yeah

49:48

i agree i think sometimes with these mailbags

49:51

of course we always want to go gently but

49:53

if you're coming to for this

49:58

i i geraghty

50:00

of

50:01

warner saw the majority of blame

50:03

he had dogs lie with you i think

50:06

weddings are marvelous like i'm having

50:08

a wedding this year i cannot wait like genuinely

50:11

as anti feminist some people might

50:13

accuse me of being the you know for

50:17

i i'm so excited to get

50:19

married i'm so excited to do the fuck off

50:21

white dress and out

50:24

and or smile was everywhere and do the thing

50:26

like i'm going all out for the wedding i'm really excited

50:29

about excited

50:29

however i think it pays

50:32

to be self aware that while this is

50:34

the best day of your life and this is

50:36

the biggest day of your life so far you wanted to

50:38

be a fairytale you can

50:40

always put that costs onto the people

50:42

around you and you can't expect the people

50:44

around you to had the same level of

50:46

investments as you do

50:48

i understand that this person is your best friend and

50:51

for my sisters or use aura

50:53

or my high school best friends i would

50:55

do almost anything to make their

50:57

wedding day happen does that mean i would do

50:59

it that any more

51:01

full of negativity or annoyance

51:04

that are being asked to foot a massive

51:06

bill

51:07

stories like i love you so much but if you

51:09

turned to me and said i want to go to get married in

51:11

new zealand or i want to go get married in italy

51:13

i would go oh my god how amazing and

51:15

that would be counted in my head i

51:18

a a or

51:28

i is

51:44

the i work at age old question of the our weddings

51:46

a thought maybe getting married

51:49

or are they about the people

51:51

who are running and i would

51:53

argue that they kind of the that everyone

51:55

i think that they're mostly about the couple getting

51:58

married but also about the

52:00

what i want there to and i think that's

52:02

why we get so many dilemmas about weddings

52:04

why so many people want to talk about them generally

52:07

not i would argue because it's a

52:09

salary topic of conversation a lot of

52:11

the time that because it really gone political

52:13

stay involved all of us and i think if a

52:15

wedding wasn't a tiny bit about the people that were

52:17

inviting you to like and not have any

52:19

one that i think with that in mind

52:22

it would be going to going thoughtful of what

52:24

you're asking if people like are you demanding

52:26

they take

52:27

leave when they only have two three four

52:29

weeks a yes that they spend savings

52:32

at bay the prefer to spend on

52:34

a car service or even

52:36

saving for a house deposit

52:39

i mean a lot of people love destination weddings

52:41

i think they are like incredibly

52:44

unique levels of fun but

52:46

to throw on doesn't mind levels of self awareness

52:48

like you need to know what you're asking the people and

52:51

in the gentlest possible way to these confused

52:53

by to base it feels like he

52:55

might not be doing that for not your first

52:57

thought as you're planning this with your fellow attitudes

53:00

to think how will this impact the people

53:02

around me and how will i

53:04

help them

53:05

yeah i agree i also think the line of

53:07

don't we all know that weddings just cost money

53:10

that days

53:11

what i would say to that bride is yes

53:14

i think we all know attending weddings

53:16

costs money i mean everyone listening

53:18

probably has been to one where they've had to maybe

53:21

buy a dress or buy shoes or by clutch

53:23

to guy was maybe that had to contribute

53:25

a hundred to three hundred dollars to

53:27

a wishing well i don't know how much people want to put in

53:29

fact that he is a lot of money you

53:32

know that self we all appreciate that

53:34

attending weddings costs money but

53:36

that is not some like fine i think that

53:38

we go up it's gonna cost me money so what's the difference

53:41

between two hundred dollars and a thousand dollars

53:43

or five thousand dollars like

53:45

very refreshing you are there and feels incredibly

53:47

resigns right well or

53:50

, doesn't have to babies

53:52

lags like just because

53:54

we have the wedding industrial complex stuff because

53:56

weddings live a lot on instagram these days and these become

53:58

quite as so that's not mean

54:01

that you have to do that does

54:03

not mean that people have to be put out city

54:05

you can make that dream a reality for

54:07

yourself i do an account of what we've been

54:10

saying that with one small things one

54:12

consideration here that we haven't touched on is

54:14

why you're getting married overseas and why that's

54:16

really important view because if your

54:18

partner some there or if your for mass

54:20

i kind of think it's a pretty different conversation

54:23

if you've got to families that live in opposite parts

54:25

of the globe office and on the country it

54:27

is really different because at the end of the day you

54:29

gotta pick an area los angeles lot of pick

54:31

a space and that is still hard

54:33

on the people around us but i

54:36

don't think is not

54:37

people have a right to say this is a huge financial

54:39

burden on may because it's like a what do you expect

54:42

them to go get someone's gotta pay for it

54:44

and it sucks yeah that's for

54:46

everyone so if that's the case i

54:49

don't empathize as much with your friends perhaps

54:51

fantasize more with you because that's really hard but

54:54

you haven't mentioned that you're having it overseas

54:56

because of that so i'm assuming maybe it's just

54:58

decided that the fun yes to the vibes

55:00

i agree i think even if you had grandparents

55:03

who live say like i've heard of people getting married

55:05

in italy but is that place their grandparents

55:07

are from and they want to go back there i have more time

55:09

for that than somebody guards only get married in italy

55:11

to that the fuck off like great vibe yeah and

55:14

the people who want to calm have to pay

55:16

thousands of dollars to be there

55:18

i do think and maybe this is controversial

55:20

and if you disagree with that is so subtly find

55:22

come tell me on your side friday i do

55:25

think if you are a bride and groom or

55:27

broaden the bride or groom and groom planning

55:29

a wedding or the seas and there's no

55:31

real reason for it to be in that country dislike

55:33

the vibe i do think eddie

55:35

could should mean that you help people get their

55:38

i think you should help out with the air fares are

55:40

you should help out with their accommodation or make

55:42

it easy it could be something as small

55:44

as making it very clear to anyone

55:46

who attended there is no wishing well make it

55:49

super clear to them that you have no

55:51

other expectations of them because

55:53

it's daunting it's daunting being invited

55:55

to a wedding doing the mats in your head and going

55:57

this is going to be an astronomically

56:00

expensive exercise for me to go

56:02

and if you want people go to celebrate your

56:04

love and celebrate your relationship

56:06

something to make it slightly easier for them

56:08

to be there and if they copy that because they can't

56:10

afford it put your attitude and

56:13

fucking backseat your attitude is not welcome

56:15

silva make it hard for people to get that yeah

56:17

so i think it's a really important that this was

56:19

not

56:20

right back another conversation with her send

56:22

that kind of is infused with empathy

56:25

to be like well fuck i'm really sorry that my

56:27

dream wedding is impacting you in the sky because

56:29

i think she's allowed your friend is allowed to make

56:31

this about them there's no making it about

56:33

them when you're asking them to empty their wallet well

56:36

what got him and soil i do think

56:39

you need to go back and saturday friends have is it

56:41

marked he thought he can change decisions and i'm not saying

56:43

you need to but i think for

56:45

may i don't mind going away

56:47

for a wedding of what people are self

56:49

aware about what they're asking yeah

56:52

i like they are so grateful

56:54

about the sacrifices people are making to the that is

56:56

this one acknowledgement of that i'm like i'm fully

56:58

and i'm fine because you know

57:00

what you're asking people to do and i'm just happy of asia

57:03

yeah i think that's the one thing that that kinda i'd

57:05

also say to the bride i do think that

57:07

the enjoyment of a letting does

57:09

sometimes run in tandem with hell

57:12

the the and breezy it's been so the get

57:14

sorry if you can alleviate their

57:16

experience or if you can do something to make

57:18

them feel like this has been a really

57:20

fun and semi easy process

57:23

everyone will have a better time like any

57:25

negativity attention leading up to a wedding i think

57:27

does impact the experience of that wedding the

57:29

more you can make people guards it

57:32

, carla i'm okay yeah yeah

57:34

to psych sabo off the ball the fun

57:36

is higher yeah i'd rather go these

57:39

look i would love to hear from alice news about

57:41

these ones i would do if they had a friend in a

57:43

snowy weather this is something that experience for themselves

57:45

because would hazard a guess it is not the

57:48

most unique dilemma

57:50

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57:52

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