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wake of uneventful carolina lot
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going on we're obviously living in melbourne
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at the moment but i spent so much i we
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have actually as i have my entire
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life but i spent so much time
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on spent tok these wake consistently
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watching nonstop videos of harry styles
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performing at wembley that i almost
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feel like i went to the com does
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anybody else feel like that is this the concert
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where fans can panting that camera
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is over to nile nile
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this with wonder if we have the same bone to pick
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a lot of people online look
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look at at how can i help somebody else
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watching on thinking? wow like look
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like he actually to the board looks
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so expressionless she's not physically
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save not doing anything he's like blankly
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staring into space and space whole bunch of one
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day sounds like this like this most emotional moment
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of niall horan block is quite good
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i can't stop watching like
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so many harry styles performing
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videos i know you're not hurry ourselves
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and now i don't want to get hype from
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listen it's not that i'm not offended why
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i believe though i live feather
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five like him a healthy amount and i would say
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did you not a healthy amount healthy
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are we doing the high some i like i had to recommendations
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like five hour day and i'm in oregon then
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is lol and liang a brown incinerator
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and love her voice very british to
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put on amazing accent for the claim as
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well which normally would annoy me now my quick
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to tell that illustrate a on here and i'm ready
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lesson i'm so appreciative some people might
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i need you officially apologize
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on the record about couple of things
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i said couple of episodes guard that everything
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in present day you came back to me and said that
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michelle he wants episode one and said
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maybe it should have a set and twenty twenty two it's
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a perfect show one my favorites ever
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thought like to say her please
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dolly older didn't take my formal apology
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of the site with i gotta say i reckon
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my favorite story of twenty twenty four hours
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she thought i thought it doesn't everyone
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whatever on that that confident i am in
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it begins to and pay to not and israeli
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us and we got home sweet home
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not really pumped particularly
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as xsara and myself because
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xsara texted me like last week with
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a link to an apc article and was
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like guys what the fuck like
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kim pay to heat and we went back and
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forth for at least half an hour on the excitement
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on every one that we knew in australia who might
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see came and picked because they either far
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north right now like
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but i put these in the general all team
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flak because i was like this can only guard
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to xsara myself and not about
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it has to go to everyone and ever with fucking living
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for it yeah it was an amazing sinusoid
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basically read and this is the headline
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was , kimi k mind
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as make the orders as the left coupled he's
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cans cafe so we thought
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oh my god chance of all places
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human made it as we knew that paint
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had something to film up in far north
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queensland it made sense we'd seen
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photos of them in as very
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sort of the t area and thought
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so you have beautiful blue clearwater
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like that could be ours and so
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basically this pay said yeah they
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here and went to a local cafe now
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what originally had happened here is the
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owner this cafe a guy named matte
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black who owns i will give
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them a shoutout show said probably does evidence
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that lets us the botanic had cafe
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originally posted facebook thanks hi
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everyone we had team and pete visit a
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cafe today yes be
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gone for the tonic other only recently
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disciples so very exciting and
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if i may say most delicate way possible not
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quite big thought you'd expect cumin peyton only did
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it would it have it have not to
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say i would be shocked to elect she
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was shocked to know that cumin pay would go
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a cafe like the topic like a limited as bad
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as sir yes sir matt black
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to be so far he was all over social media
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saying kim kardashian pete davidson love
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my cafe he then decided to do
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media interviews about it apparently
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he was getting what the media requests so he spoke
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to a b c radio and said yes
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kim and paid visited britannica and
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loved this story told was pretty good
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to hate all the ib we have
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to put our phones out on the counter he
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said there was his name i barrister and to
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be honest he didn't know who they were he's really
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out of the loop with that sort of stuff
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he said they'll very polite they basically
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took over the entire cast day and
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that they loved the food say
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that said i can't reveal what dishes
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they loved because they asked me not to
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that that sounded something that they would do
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both the liberty and justice
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, out what they would do that
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of course site would would
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out that with didn't
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they didn't i wouldn't ever
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at the cafe economy started
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come on down because everybody started sharing this
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far and wide and then the daily mail
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of all places data to fact
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check you know you're in deep thrive when
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that happens and they said that
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she kim kardashian she had
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they popped in l a
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around the similar time that we thought she was in australia
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and then people got in touch with her reps
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who said she hasn't been the minister who we are in
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years yeah so by friday
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the a racy how to scrap
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the story from their website and replace
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it with like a formal apology for getting the report
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wrong meanwhile while botanical
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cafe kind went to ground not
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black was all over facebook said what a wild
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ride it had been and he was taking photos
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of the media
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side botanical up and like who everyone
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wants the hot scoop yeah eventually
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he admitted and i quote this
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little local joke has candid an
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unbelievable man like
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a know is it he went on
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and said and said it would get some lights and if you comment
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from a small town but never to make
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anyone lose their minds of to people's
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breakfast as simple joke tended
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to news outlets running what they wanted for their own
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likes and comments i think all bit crazy
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if i may he knew it
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was gonna make people crazy as i cracked the joke
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that kylie check out why is that
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ruin pulling my kid wolf about everyone
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leaving the why did i do like i think
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we'll surround the day
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i just wanted to say his name's now people
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believe
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then you going on a b c radio
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and gave like awfully details voices
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i don't know if he says yeah
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he gave this courses topic now people
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who know me know i syrup stuff
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on social media social thought people going
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to call me out mixing the can
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post is trying to get stories the whole
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day the for did not supreme the l
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times journalist from new york everyone
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try to get this group about them being in my
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little cafe and edgehill it got
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to the point where i thought i'd have to answer the
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phone and give someone something the
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next call with apc radio and with
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said i'd give them the school
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sure enough it just exploded
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a bit of a thirty
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thought offices
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an american i just threw the thing
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why
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also sure enough it is exploited
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more as he's giving an interview
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to a really legitimate media publication
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is not going to do that also
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why not ideal haircut on
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, said to any of us that
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we allow ricans like no female it's
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ever been described as larrikin and maybe the three
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of us had bit uptight select
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i want to think one fairly
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screw it would qualify as larrikin out order
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a yeah
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no know that
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, ip me i actually think his name was
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was a friday route qualifies as
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a larrikin a humble rifle of us to
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try and own and a cleric in satire
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i don't think any of us are you're not even
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a little bit i love that he doubled down
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even more the courts just kept coming because
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then met block said do i need
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take it seriously because we're new cafe
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we have the most talented chef that we've worked really
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hard up cherished staff members
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who i need to make sure is still okay still
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treat everyone who comes into that cafe is
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royalty i just now hope
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that people see what it is it
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was a little not black
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i'm
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maybe this is brand of he thought maybe it's just
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a little not black joke i will definitely
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bring that into my lexicon i mean
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l a wee little not in i still remember
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non white to when i have any
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foreign off our that's a pretty stark reminder
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of were that industry sitting right now yeah
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bit of a shoutout to tiny armstrong feel like we
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haven't mentioned him enough on this show given
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what an icon
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he is i'm obsessed with him also
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obsessed with the fact that my mom loves him much
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i do but every time she brings him up
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she confuses him at thirty yards and said
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i really want the
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drugs with my mom couldn't
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radio sex with him and i was obsessed
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with his pebble search amazing is south
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my second story bachelor jimmy
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and holy shit if final only fan
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statement that is from pedestrians
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he they anyone who listen to last
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week's episode will not back story on this
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in case you missed it let
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us keep your reef brief rundown yeah
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exactly so essentially a holy and jimmy said
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that they had been constantly
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asked by their own followers when they
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were joining only fans and they
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said they had no plans to join the platform to sell
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nudes and jimmy sort of added that
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if reality stars want to empower people
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they should stop charities or you've got platforms
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to set an example for younger generations
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yeah now reactions to this instagram
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story was pretty split or if
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you looked on either of jimmy or holies
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pages they were getting a lot of positive
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feedback about this lot of people saying they
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agreed with that sentiment or only fans but
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if you looked into all the corners of the internet it
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was like the diametrically opposite
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of the like some people
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found their sentiments snarky and unnecessary
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that was certainly off last week's are on
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this sure other people were downright
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urias about this and really
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wanted to go for holly and jimmy i've
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read sorry there with a lot of a
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lot going on yes or in response
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they actually issued statement on their instagram
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and instagram statement read like this you
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may seen post we share this like talking
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about only fans like almost everything
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on line and twenty twenty two it was met with
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strong reactions we want to share
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in subsequent thoughts over
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last year we have received literally hundreds
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of messages that assumed that because we
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met on reality show way would be setting
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up an only fans accounts we will not be
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we have no issue with someone who freely and legally
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works the sex industry whether it is
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on
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the for and or elsewhere however
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like most of the people who like that last
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week i believe it's a desolate moat
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female or male empowerment young people
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that is just our opinion yeah
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it went on and we do we know it's long but we want to
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read this out give the the right of reply
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we understand social media can be a very
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powerful and an equally unpleasant
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place we enjoyed opening up our lives
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and social media and connecting with lovely
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people from all over world we get
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that not everyone will agree with us or like
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us but it is such a sad reflection
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on public conversation in australia today
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that disagreement can morph into hatred
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so readily we believe that being progress
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even open minded doesn't mean you have
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the same narrow world view as other
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people who call themselves progressive than open
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minded it means you are willing to tolerate
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views that different your own it is not
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acceptable to bully harass or threaten anyone
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online or the real world where do you disagree
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with them or not furthermore if you a
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public profile we believe it is especially
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important to encourage constructive non
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biased discussion rather than
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and attack
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what do we think about that statement i agree
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with pots of what they've said in a statement because conversation
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that you and i were having in the office last week me
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was that we went loving watching
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how the conversation was unfolding think for me
21:12
in a scenario is the perfect
21:14
way for them to play out i know that's very poorly
21:17
on or of me because in what well did they things ever play
21:19
out perfectly is for someone
21:21
to say something for other people to come back say
21:23
hey here's why that is offensive
21:25
to lot of people or hey he's pot
21:27
of these he might have thought about and then everybody
21:30
just kind of suit with that if they decide
21:32
to double down i'm not entirely
21:34
sure how helpful is for the rest us to just
21:36
go whack whack whack
21:38
i will not stop until you believe
21:40
what i believe yeah i personally
21:42
will never love
21:44
walking someone into submission on
21:46
social media like of course
21:49
if someone puts on an opinion that you think
21:51
is little and educated a little snarky
21:53
little ignorance how that not
21:55
and explain why you completely disagree
21:58
but to try to dominate
22:00
they're more to try and shut them
22:02
down into believing or pirating
22:04
exact same thing you do isn't
22:06
valuable to mail isn't the way that
22:08
kind of conversation should unfilled
22:11
australia or anywhere for that matter
22:13
like i often think when that does
22:15
happen that someone said something that's a
22:17
whole group of people find to be ignorant and that
22:19
group of people really badger them into
22:21
appointed submission the original
22:23
person might say online okay
22:25
i'm sorry i disagree with what said but often
22:28
i don't actually think they do disagree with what they
22:30
said they just think they need to say they
22:32
now the amri they say they need to learn
22:34
the older conversation guards abundant dies
22:36
down they
22:38
we actually the
22:40
be like saying it is a great if
22:42
i got okay i've heard you but i still don't find
22:44
only hit fans empowering us to want reality
22:46
starts open charities or don't chinese
22:48
or whatever
22:49
would we be in place where we to sit back and go okay
22:52
we're never going the grave i'm happy to describe
22:54
you on that yeah and like com and sat a whenever
22:56
you want learn more about at yeah yeah i do
22:58
agree with that completely
23:01
i think one thing that also confused me in
23:03
this entire conversation is like why
23:05
were suddenly talking about whether only fans
23:07
is empowering or not and i know maybe his
23:09
taking it back to set the last wake paint
23:11
when whole ingeniously came out and said
23:14
we're not going on only sad because we don't believe it's
23:16
empowering like everybody says it is i
23:18
started getting can use editing miss like
23:20
how often do i see someone joining only fan
23:22
sang and only doing this because it's impairing
23:25
i don't see that that often i feel i'm people saying
23:27
i'm joining only fans because i wanted
23:29
because i want to make money because i
23:31
wanted to this my job like is it's just
23:33
like distracted combo something actually doesn't
23:35
happen that often see maybe people
23:37
saying i find it personally empowering
23:39
to join early fans because i embrace my sexuality
23:41
embrace my body and i making money
23:44
off of sorry things i don't understand
23:46
where the conversation has gone were were
23:48
acting like people who joined only fans
23:51
are pretending they're doing some big community
23:53
service for empowerment how many people
23:55
could sit here and say their job day
23:57
to day job impale was the
23:59
commute the my are wholly
24:01
it's you can't say that about their own job
24:04
as influences i probably
24:06
can't say that you've got probably can't say that i don't
24:08
know many people who actually can how
24:10
did we get to the point where we're not talking about
24:12
does only fit in power children
24:14
or empower people in power to person is
24:16
doing it the valid form of work
24:22
very nice like that though it's like i don't know what
24:24
we're talking about anymore because they don't know how much of this
24:26
is they can reality that's when i
24:28
find most interesting about it space you have
24:30
said this is lacing they'll say on it so
24:32
i imagine this is the last summer here this story
24:34
and the last time we say anything on it as well
24:36
yeah like third story a highly
24:39
babe as long awaited skincare brand
24:41
road is finally here that is
24:43
from so any family
24:45
the eighteen
24:48
and friends while i was very excited
24:50
i do love highly they that see someone
24:53
from my past basket and don't know why
24:55
but this but this you should ever have to explain
24:58
to people why some of new passed off your it's a
25:00
role of shameless and we simply word explain it
25:02
to the also mine annabel c news not
25:05
really okay
25:07
if he didn't he say he say babies long
25:10
awaited skincare brand is finally here
25:12
and she's really putting that kind of glazed
25:14
doughnut like skin on the map
25:17
sorta like static threat from though as
25:19
i got that somehow road
25:21
launched with only three products
25:23
or three of them were under thirty bucks
25:25
at us thirty dollars
25:28
now it really interesting is when i heard
25:30
that she was launching a skincare brand i
25:32
just wonder if there was really room for
25:34
another like i really
25:37
wondered if this if this an incredibly crowded
25:39
space but then i think a little like and know this
25:41
is funny comparison to make this context
25:43
selena gomez and rare beauty
25:45
she has found gap the market salinas
25:47
somehow found a gap bluegrass and do
25:50
think highly has somehow found gap with
25:52
road eats and accessible price point
25:55
they are really simple products but
25:57
i do want to be on his do we have any room
25:59
for more it is a really good
26:01
point make his i felt the exact same
26:03
here with like hailed is gonna whack weed
26:05
soft also had kim kardashian damage
26:07
skin and what i love
26:09
that highly babies done that kim didn't kim's
26:11
launch with nine products that
26:13
all essentially products that we know a very buggy
26:16
and hockey right now skincare space hegel
26:18
he's gone super tight with with three and
26:20
they skincare products that yes a simple xsara by
26:22
a completely different to what i'm saying out there like
26:25
she's got peptide blazing fluid and
26:27
i don't know what the fuck what do i want it's absolutely
26:29
the i did we signed up like a mouth for the wait list
26:33
that's , i want right now it is very interesting
26:35
and i wonder if this is just my algorithm and
26:37
will be self aware about that but i haven't
26:39
seen nearly as much about kim kardashian skyn
26:41
as i have that healthy babies right skincare
26:44
you agree with that i've seen probably equally
26:46
waited coverage bomb
26:48
or positive coverage highly bay but then i had
26:50
their kim kardashian skyn yeah i think
26:52
that's really good point i think it's it's a may as
26:54
well watching the coverage of the last week or
26:56
so it seems the market really
26:58
interesting jin said she is
27:01
in how they consider highly baby like
27:03
i don't think any of listeners will be surprised
27:05
to know and learn that of course highly has
27:08
been the subject of intense levels
27:10
of derision since uber newly married
27:12
justin bieber justin bieber
27:14
when bieber when with selena gomez should allegiance
27:16
and laden some fans invested in
27:19
not really young relationship
27:21
and when highly ended up with justin somehow
27:23
she became focus
27:25
all they're unhappy to it's basically she
27:27
was one of most hated paypal on the internet
27:29
for a time for sure and this is going
27:31
up to very recently this wasn't something that just
27:33
happened years ago that she's now recovered from
27:35
it was only a couple of months ago in april
27:38
that she begged on tik tok for the trolling
27:40
to stop she said in the video leave
27:42
me alone at this point i'm minding my business
27:44
i don't do anything i don't say anything leave
27:47
me alone please enough time
27:49
has gone by were valid to leave me alone
27:51
i think the subtext there is enough time since i married
27:53
justin has come by to leave me alone i
27:55
beg of you truly that's my only request
27:58
leave me alone be miserable somewhere
28:00
else plays the caption on that
28:02
video read this is for you guys
28:04
in my comments every single time i
28:06
post to the shift with sane
28:08
from that level of crawling towards highly
28:10
bay boss to where we are
28:13
i twelve weeks later is actually
28:15
insane because i have not seen such positive
28:18
coverage of highly bega eva
28:20
yeah i totally agree with you and i think
28:22
finance really , interesting
28:24
to consider what's changed in minds
28:26
of paypal think it has to come to a couple
28:28
of things i think especially paypal
28:30
probably saying her as little more human
28:32
officer she spoke very publicly
28:35
of experiencing a mini stroke
28:37
earlier this year in last few weeks as well
28:40
justin bieber himself had to postpone
28:42
he's too because he's was experiencing facial
28:44
paralysis from something called around the hunt
28:47
syndrome and i think that
28:49
sense of humanity paypal bang like fuck that's pretty
28:51
shit time for boyhood them and
28:53
people considering well that can only really
28:56
work to strengthen your union
28:58
has actually meant something and it's horrendous
29:00
that these kinds things of how to happen for people
29:02
to see them as more human and it shouldn't
29:04
work like that but think has on
29:06
the other end as well i think launching
29:08
a business has helped as wow i think
29:11
unfortunately people
29:13
have more respect for people who are clearly
29:16
running something or not even just like
29:18
owning a business but link
29:20
putting their name to job that they
29:22
respect if that he he i am asking
29:25
this is a question because need rangel with in
29:27
myself i agree with you on the illness
29:29
stuff i think that's certainly humanized haley
29:31
she's always been human but thankfully
29:33
on some level people are finally starting to see
29:35
her as one as well on the comment you
29:37
just said about unfortunately people
29:40
now giving him more credibility because she
29:42
runs a business i'm one the people he's
29:44
not unfortunate or is that just human
29:46
nature that when we see someone build something impressive
29:49
that way think it's creative different what
29:51
at f it takes lot of auditor
29:54
hard work blood sweat and tears i
29:56
do have great respect for people and highly babies
29:58
position who build businesses the maybe
30:00
people who don't launch businesses
30:02
or don't have something their name that is their
30:04
baby and kind of the front facing
30:06
thing that they do publicly yeah i think it is
30:08
unfair and i think it's very humid
30:11
day to but i do think
30:13
when
30:13
i say the what unfortunately no one should
30:15
ever just suddenly not be troll the
30:17
because they've got a name something i also
30:19
think what triggers the fuck you wanna live your life if
30:21
you want flirt and if you want to kind of like not
30:23
like work your entire identity and you want to
30:25
make your marriage really important and your social
30:27
media presence really important whatever it is like
30:30
that i really do believe that should be
30:32
the subject of our respective whether
30:34
not it's the natural innate
30:36
response from a lot of of yet my boys will uma
30:38
to slightly different things maybe my wording
30:40
wasn't right it's not that like i
30:42
have a disliked haley or would ever troll
30:44
her but think she now appeals to group
30:47
of people who career minded business
30:49
oriented who have become fans
30:51
of her i think she now has dedicated
30:53
fans were highly sands not necessarily
30:55
justin fans or fans about things around
30:57
her and on know can have grudge people's that
30:59
some people like music some people like business
31:01
if you're giving people something to door
31:03
and go i really respect that i love that the
31:05
you she's gonna have people how to more positive
31:08
by other more disagree that like the legions
31:10
of fans that he's getting right now business savvy
31:12
then that is i think it's like gens
31:14
that has led justin bieber citizens
31:16
who are suddenly looking at haley thank all you
31:18
have your own identity true i will finally
31:20
respect now that's where i think the bulk of love
31:23
is coming from i am just really happy
31:25
for her ever seen that i didn't leave that
31:27
these has turned around because they're i say i've
31:29
been i've been highly davis and for a
31:31
long time and i've been waiting the tied to
31:33
my a lot of us in the office has been watching
31:35
the commentary run hey babe of the last twelve months
31:38
they went what the fuck is going on we all really likely
31:40
be yeah so i agree i'm relieved
31:42
i love her i've watched the skincare
31:45
net positive all round my foot
31:47
story he's everything we know about
31:49
beyond say new iraq that is
31:51
from buzz feed it had been a
31:53
big week in the life of beyond
31:55
say her first solo album in
31:57
six years is launching next month
31:59
on the
32:00
y twenty nine it's called were nice on
32:02
m will include sixteen track the
32:04
single that's really on
32:06
tuesday it's called break my soul i
32:08
listen to it heavily absolutely at
32:11
all
32:12
good and i say this and i reckon said
32:14
isn't podcast and for i'm not very
32:16
good listening to new music like i'm
32:19
so that and i can't work out what i like
32:21
what don't like sometimes need to like listen
32:23
to music through osmosis and then understand
32:25
what like i listen to cynicism thought
32:27
i saw this is good song i agree
32:29
it's good so it's not like my usual taste
32:31
but i can understand and respected
32:34
within eighty disco yeah and it's
32:36
also telling people quit their jobs and don't quit your
32:41
it is eyesore as tongue in cheek
32:43
pace on the thought this morning about how she's
32:45
really leaning into the great resignation and how
32:48
everyone in america is quitting their jobs at the moment
32:50
but
32:51
kind of true like it's very much the new
32:53
post pandemic for people to be leaving
32:55
their jobs or they the line and a song that flag
32:57
with me till five but i won't work said the not as
32:59
puts it line as i
33:02
do think that is the mood that we've been
33:04
talking to talking little the than the last few months
33:06
later messages good day and it's
33:08
classic fiance to hit mood so well
33:10
last week in promoting this new album
33:12
and he single she actually did shoot with british
33:14
vote and was see it was
33:16
an interesting though is that she gave
33:19
the photo shoot and collaborate on the photo shoot
33:21
with added are edward an awful but
33:23
didn't actually give him an interview
33:25
she didn't like not even access
33:27
so it would enter fulfill
33:30
wrote an accompanying pace to this
33:32
photo shoot an he went over to
33:34
dinner at the on sites have listened to the album
33:36
but she did not give single point that pay
33:38
so he basically had to write about the on say
33:40
without any of her input i
33:43
am pretty obsessed with that fact i don't know
33:45
many other celebrities who coupons that album or
33:47
want something huge as the six years and say
33:50
i'll still managed to get the same level of publicity
33:52
without giving an interview then another one heard
33:54
reagan it would give and in to be yeah i'm
33:56
trying to think what celebrities in
33:58
the world garda bring
34:00
can say give me the cabal but i'm not giving you
34:02
single word even quite fiance
34:05
not even dell i don't know until you
34:07
got [unk] profiles yeah she did a double
34:10
maybe meghan markle could do
34:12
it and not giving the out your that's true
34:14
that's a good point i don't think there's a single
34:17
author [unk] come to us if you have
34:19
one but i think meghan markle and fiance might be
34:21
only two women in world do know what i had the other
34:23
day i'm sorry sorry this is just going to keep coming
34:25
out as i hate listening to the palace papers
34:27
the coin has never give an
34:29
n g o really
34:32
i love how many her that at me like oh yeah that's
34:34
true kate middleton never given one since you've been
34:37
the
34:37
public either queenie to flying under the radar
34:40
like know quotes the record i
34:42
find that amazing amount of mystique
34:44
clear behavior and i think that why the
34:46
at they they really late into that level of mistake
34:48
this such a level of mistake particularly around
34:50
kate middleton because when we don't hear
34:52
anything from her you see them all the time but you
34:54
realize you actually never hear from them right
34:57
it's such different form of publicity because
34:59
like say beyond size of the well give
35:01
us nothing and we want more the kim kardashians
35:03
of the will give us everything and we will thought i'd have
35:05
to go one have to weigh a hundred percent i
35:07
swear i get more intrigued by the on say as time
35:10
goes on like i was trolling
35:12
for this pace from edward and fool just trying
35:14
get like any
35:15
anything about who the on say it's and
35:17
like what is she laughlin she's sitting at dinner
35:20
is he really chilled out is she kind of
35:22
while easy super road these
35:25
are the only things he got right it
35:27
would animal said she's a writer of excellent
35:29
and lengthy texts aims
35:31
to check out and he's another hop from the
35:33
things things liked i find myself truly
35:35
on the meal sitting at the on says dinner table
35:38
on table sunday nights and and sound about
35:40
how are lox italy's saw the house
35:42
is impressively minimalist with acres of
35:44
white walls gleam in glass and beautiful art
35:46
as scrumptious dinner of ribs cream
35:49
cone peas and mashed potatoes he said
35:51
i'm not sure mood could be any cozier
35:53
he went on i'm sorry struck by how tranquil
35:56
alzheimer's disease at this point her
35:58
iron clad devotion to professional
36:00
the gun and privacy is legendary and
36:02
yet he's years at home with her handlers
36:04
not stitch of make up on wearing hoodie
36:06
just paying herself her alma is
36:08
so lowered her laughed at so infectious
36:11
her skin so glory she honestly
36:13
looks like a teenager he said
36:15
that he thinks puts that wall up between
36:18
herself and the rest the world because
36:20
of this
36:21
can't help thinking how all those walls a to
36:23
say fiance putting up don't exist to facilitate
36:26
egos quite the contrary they
36:28
exist so she can lead it'll go and
36:30
nor should they just like the most laid back person
36:32
behind the same kind of you know
36:35
see would say iraq and but as we said
36:37
the level of mistake of so
36:40
impressive and just makes me well more more
36:42
yeah my fifth story scott ham
36:44
slams influences el ferguson and
36:46
joel patel for quitting the block
36:49
that is from these socom you guys
36:51
might know about these two have mentioned them couple
36:53
have times but just refresher el ferguson
36:55
is and influence i businesswoman with
36:57
six hundred and eighty thousand followers on
36:59
instagram shes also the brains behind the
37:01
elephant i ham brand her
37:03
fiance joel couple is former
37:06
as l player so that her patel
37:08
yeah and i think its definitely
37:10
been formula the block has lent into
37:12
in the last who years i mean you
37:15
remember have course influence last thousand
37:17
her partner well on block and did incredibly
37:19
well we also have love island twins
37:21
lucan joel pretty
37:23
well as well so these yeah i think allan joel
37:26
we're going be there famous faces
37:28
i think sharon johal is also on the
37:30
show so days were their other famous faces
37:32
on show but you might remember back in
37:34
april we spoke about days two
37:36
really abruptly pulling the sharon
37:39
just three days into filming this you
37:42
wait encourage published by tape the
37:44
tonight cam the blocked host
37:47
suggested the reason that l
37:49
and job walked away is because they couldn't
37:51
handle the workload and bailed after
37:53
the very first challenge now wish
37:55
dart there remarks
37:58
about this story we know
38:00
given at a post loki
38:02
that branch we can look
38:04
at it came
38:06
it's noticing off to a group of paypal
38:08
and a t v to not journal was kind of scribbling
38:10
down notes of recording it or whatever and
38:12
quoting him or if he actually
38:14
did an interview with a t v to not june
38:16
or at this brunch well i think courts
38:19
have to be on the record because it was
38:21
a media branch as well so everything would be
38:23
on the record and i think for those don't understand
38:26
the hops how the journalism industry works
38:28
it's very rarely if ever
38:31
for a generalist publish quite when someone hasn't
38:33
consented to giving those quite like you can give
38:35
an interview and hop throw be like half of this is off
38:37
record and they basically kind published
38:39
that the problem is the artist is on a probably
38:42
very hung over scott game the day after
38:44
the loki's to interrupt inside the seas
38:46
off the record if he forgets to say that
38:48
if he's a little locksmith whose words
38:50
if he's a little tired from not before
38:52
he might say all this shit and not realize it's
38:54
about to be printed well then let's talk about what
38:56
he actually know because hey explained
38:59
in quotes published by tv tonight we
39:01
had controversy on day two the series
39:04
we had forty eight hour challenged she's the house
39:06
that you get and they scoff it after
39:08
forty eight hours it's something that's never
39:10
happened before forty five
39:12
thousand people applied to be on block and
39:14
when life changing money these guys
39:16
got on and they just couldn't handle the pace
39:18
after forty eight hours which to me is
39:20
be an australian have go it's
39:22
piece pool it's his whole
39:25
now lover of mind to the the reason
39:27
we originally heard that l and joe had
39:29
pulled out when it's all went down a
39:31
few months ago was that jo
39:34
[unk] mom had taken ill the
39:36
daily telegraph reported this at time it
39:38
is understood the couple of made the decision to
39:40
quit after puzzles mother teresa fractured
39:42
her neck in nasty fall at home
39:44
in adelaide she is believed to have
39:46
possible bleeding of the brain a broken
39:48
clock sick and fractured wrist
39:51
we then also had l
39:53
take to her instagram stories and right wherever
39:55
you are in world whatever you're doing family
39:58
always comes first that
40:00
written over an image of like a
40:02
baggage trolley baggage carousel
40:04
at the airport clearly giving the impression
40:06
that they were flying to guard base
40:08
with joe puzzles mother sir having
40:10
story about what fractured
40:12
neck bleeding on the brain a broken
40:14
clock sick and fractured wrist
40:17
in tandem with scotty
40:19
can say it's evil peace
40:21
corps have a go it's been under strongly it's
40:23
i have story
40:26
and why he would say that i'm so
40:28
confused
40:29
like a deeply confused and
40:31
that's kind of my only comment when i
40:33
was i am i guess it'll be quite interesting
40:36
when that they're block actually does
40:38
at what they says couple of episodes will clack
40:40
as i think that oh give us far more answers
40:43
mine would like to lead to
40:45
the treatment of time now that i read
40:47
that who's telling line said over
40:49
the weekend we were surprised to have one of our new
40:51
contestant aims to pop the block a few days
40:53
into filming we wish them all the best
40:56
said the future like where
40:59
he believes the hell and joel like
41:01
apparently trees are kind now which is great
41:03
but like the toward can run
41:05
scott came something is so not adding
41:07
up he of yeah i totally agree that all
41:09
you got foaming at the will of god the
41:12
you got mail why
41:16
the very powerful words
41:18
all righty came it is mailbag time
41:20
and billie i realize okay
41:23
i will slaughter ,
41:26
famous my best friend
41:28
emma and i are considering having an intervention
41:30
with our other best friend lucy regarding her
41:32
boyfriend basically were worried
41:35
that she worried she relationship and we feel as
41:37
though she slowly losing herself amateur
41:39
use that lazy her boyfriend have been together
41:41
i've met him three times he's never
41:44
made an effort to get know me or emma and
41:46
because we're only here than negative sides of their relationship
41:48
have stopped making effort to spend time with
41:50
him either every time we
41:52
asked we see how she's going conversation
41:55
eventually becomes about him and whatever she
41:57
wants to update us on is always negative
42:00
what we understand they argue a lot and have
42:02
serious communication issues they
42:04
have been several times where lucy is told me
42:06
that she thinks it's over but every time
42:08
she ends up staying the want to be
42:10
really mindful that this is loses first
42:12
relationship but i worry because she
42:14
doesn't have enough previous experience and that
42:16
judgment clouded by being in love for the
42:18
first time last summer told
42:20
lucy how i felt about her relationship just
42:23
me stop giving my opinion on it because
42:25
it's her mistake to make and ever since
42:27
they're now dynamic is changed we don't
42:29
talk on the same level that we used to and she's
42:31
essentially stopped coming to emma and me
42:33
to talk about her relationship issues i
42:35
am mad him for not being the man my best
42:37
friend deserve so my question
42:40
is question is intervention good
42:42
idea we push her away
42:44
even more or is this to wake up hoshino
42:47
help me because i miss my best friend love
42:50
money
42:51
pretty relatable dilemma for lot of paypal i
42:53
imagine i think surely everyone
42:55
has been through this with a friend
42:57
at some point or another put on the record
43:00
that not going through right now my friend heartening
43:02
yeah it'll also to the
43:04
record i love all of my friends have
43:06
to say my own in previous
43:09
time shops that have been occasions
43:11
where occasions haven't loved my friends partners
43:13
or i've had issues with the way that my friends being
43:15
traded or like many to this
43:17
list now we have changed her name to protect her
43:19
privacy but many click
43:21
relatable absolutely get your frustration
43:24
absolutely get the you and your all the best
43:26
friend emma ah
43:29
upset about this
43:31
however let's let's wade through it shelley
43:33
let's lay try and it's are we really wanted
43:35
pull this one out him fox news because we're getting
43:37
so many as a bible and and
43:39
keep them printing because we spend a great deal
43:41
time going through them the fun felt particularly
43:43
relevant for us because we had sat in the office
43:46
is like after the last episode the
43:48
kardashians and and he showed me
43:50
snippet as kim kardashian talking to chloe
43:52
tadashi and on a bed about
43:55
how to navigate when to
43:57
tell your sibling in this case
44:00
that their relationship isn't good and yeah
44:02
it's eerily similar to what this list
44:04
has said in her mailbox will play with snippet
44:06
that conversation right now
44:09
when
44:09
in that time when we like step into
44:11
our siblings lives and be like okay
44:15
this is okay we
44:17
always kept oh around each other situations
44:20
because we just don't want metal and
44:22
i respect that no one came to me
44:24
during my marriage and was like a you
44:26
could everyone let me have my own
44:28
journey and see that on my own and i appreciate
44:30
that and sometimes i like look
44:32
back and i'm like when do we jump
44:35
in like i just that's what i'm so
44:37
unclear about get the people knew what
44:39
what my relationship really
44:41
was like i think they would be like
44:43
how did this last few
44:48
he's obviously such universal dilemma
44:51
and is interesting to hear to women in cumin
44:53
chloe who's relationships with their partners
44:55
ended
44:56
you're not knowing when the right time to go
44:59
is like kim was saying i'm glad no one
45:01
came to me and let me work it out on my
45:03
own but it's him or anything also said
45:05
i would appreciated someone saying something
45:07
the same time i think that represents dichotomy
45:10
in all of us it's like i want know but i also
45:12
really don't want artist such a duality that
45:14
this stuff iraq and i think everybody feels
45:16
like that because we've all done
45:18
hypotheticals that each other like you and i
45:20
have eight and sat there to the like have a what if it with your partner
45:22
the people didn't like like how would you respond
45:24
to this and i would be equal parts fuckin
45:27
leave me alone and also
45:30
hamid it elliot yeah and if
45:32
i broke out my partner that of on came to means
45:34
had i had all these issues with way he treated
45:36
you that would annoy me is that when it
45:38
comes to money let's talk about the flan
45:40
i think one line that really stood out to
45:42
may miss i wonder if you agree with this is
45:44
i'm mad at him for not paying the man that my best
45:46
friend does that not
45:49
i do want put on record the us this guy
45:51
doesn't sound hadley from the info
45:53
that with got emotionally abusive would you agree with that
45:55
know he doesn't sound of beauty of it sounds to me
45:57
like this like this and i'm so many
45:59
could have
46:00
yeah if if he thought this was an abuse of dynamic
46:02
she would have told us that it sounds to
46:04
me like she just thinks it's a pretty shitty relationship
46:06
and her friend could much better yes and i think
46:09
safle is gotten that's that's the advice that i'm going
46:11
to give i think sometimes we
46:13
can get incredibly caught up in fighting
46:15
for
46:16
attack and we want our loved ones
46:18
to pay with robbed and stupid stupid
46:20
or back and say to ourselves low that
46:23
i think kind of happy with them even know
46:25
it's not the kind of happiness are one or the kind
46:27
relationship that i want
46:29
is their last and set off the them
46:32
being in and that's like a question people have
46:34
to grapple with because that kind of happiness
46:36
or that sort of business might not look
46:38
the same for everybody i
46:40
do think asking yourself about whether your friend
46:42
is at least it pace is a really important question
46:44
here even if it's not the case you want yeah i
46:46
feel like it's all sorry
46:48
really important for men need to
46:51
assess like easy actually up an expert
46:53
in this relationship between her best friend
46:55
lucy and lucy boyfriend like does
46:57
she know enough to make have a
46:59
good decision or to give good advice because
47:02
lucy yes has been coming to her and crying
47:04
has been coming to her with negative stuff about
47:06
her boyfriend and clearly has been struggling with some
47:08
elements of relationship that
47:10
money and emma i'm not saying all
47:12
the loving moments between lucy and her boyfriend
47:15
they're not behind closed doors saying why
47:17
lucy wants to stay to stay she wants
47:19
to work it out and i think it's tricky
47:21
for fans that i've been in his position so
47:24
many times where i've seen a friend cry over
47:26
a boy or girl and i've sat there
47:28
and god oh god like they're crying heaps of
47:30
it is percent and that's true
47:33
but i'm not saying why this person
47:35
is someone they really want hold on to i'm not seeing
47:38
the city so attached and all the beautiful
47:40
things that this person sit down with our friends
47:42
a guard guys look these loving text
47:44
message my boyfriend a semi or guys look at these
47:47
amazing just some my girlfriend
47:49
made for me at home we very rarely actually
47:51
do that we got my friends often to
47:53
vent and because they are out
47:55
outlet for venting they get far
47:57
more negative information and positive
48:00
the dominican to am i would say
48:02
you need back lucy that lucy
48:04
north more about her relationship than you ever
48:06
will and all sorry if lucy
48:08
making mistake it's her mistakes
48:11
he said that she has their and at her
48:13
mistake to make and i think
48:16
if perhaps many hadn't said
48:18
her pace already said something subtly maybe
48:20
i'd say there are ways to do it
48:22
really gently but once you say at
48:24
once that is all you can do
48:27
that she's asked you to back off is your aunt's
48:29
a yeah i think for me it's like you actually
48:31
were already given the answer from your really
48:33
good friend i , it's quite
48:35
telling to me that lucy has said
48:37
to you minnick minnick is my mistake
48:40
to make because i think if the if she
48:42
was my friend i would see it with that i would think okay
48:44
i think something deep down and her
48:47
nose it's not right because
48:49
if you're in really happy relationship you're not running
48:51
around to your friends saying this is my fucking mistake
48:54
fucking , word comes out your
48:56
mouth ago the said is that
48:58
but what you see with time and time again
49:00
with people particularly in their twenties is it's like you need
49:02
to come to that yourself it's an incredibly
49:05
hard thing to end the relationship incredibly
49:08
hot and it takes a lot of time
49:10
you want to be at like eighty nine percent
49:12
ready be done when you make that
49:14
decision i also think for me
49:17
whether or not this is the case specifically
49:19
he i i think friends can
49:21
kind of get caught out in
49:24
the gossip of hiding their friends partner oh
49:26
yeah i kind of thing making
49:28
it way to bond with a tell us making
49:30
it way to be financing
49:32
or exclusives yeah to have
49:35
those conversations about their friend as friend said this
49:37
absolutely might not be the case here that someone's listening
49:39
to that and things yeah iraq
49:41
and al frente that it's certainly something to keep
49:43
in mind are you feeling this
49:45
and constantly talking about this really
49:47
because he think it's making the world's bad off world's
49:49
is this just like face the adding something inside
49:51
of you that more about you yeah i thousand
49:54
said agree with that said think while this is a guy you've met
49:56
three times and you've acknowledged she met him three
49:58
times is there a world where your
50:01
perception of how awful he's
50:03
he's not fully aligned with the reality
50:06
of who he is i also think
50:08
no matter what i'd like i love how
50:10
carrying money and emma off their friends
50:12
i've really want third listeners out there
50:14
whoever they are to nord like you clearly
50:16
very caring equally care a lot about lucy
50:19
and like i really respect that however
50:21
i also think the line you've included
50:23
monday about i want to be really mindful
50:26
this is lucy first relationship i worry
50:28
she doesn't have enough previous experience
50:30
and her judgment is been clouded by being in
50:32
love for the first time the fact of
50:34
included that makes me think no matter what you
50:36
to say on her relationship will
50:38
come across as condescending and patronizing
50:41
like you're probably coming to her with far
50:43
more experience in relationships that's valid
50:45
and that's fair but she's never
50:47
going to be ah to see it be on that don't think she's
50:49
gonna see you guys as coming
50:51
to heard like the experts on love
50:53
and how she's gonna wrong or house you
50:55
guys have this experience you couldn't possibly
50:57
compared sir and i'm not
50:59
sure that's ever going to be received very
51:01
well it's not necessarily your fault but
51:03
it's not least really mindful of that even a slight
51:06
patronizing torn will be magnified
51:08
because you've reference her lack of experience
51:10
and clouded judgment and it's also like
51:12
a lack of experience is not sure
51:15
fire sign that someone doesn't know what they're
51:17
doing all are just as having
51:19
wealth of experience doesn't mean that people make ill
51:21
thought out to seasons later on and left her interactions
51:23
they married three times think she would tell
51:25
still got plenty of experience but still makes mistakes
51:28
the only thing i in a kind of sny
51:30
is that i think you can ever do is when that
51:32
are crying to you and i are upset and you
51:34
don't believe there at that happy self is
51:36
to just point that out but in no way
51:39
reference the part that to just be like you don't seem
51:41
like you vessels at the moment or you don't seem
51:44
like the happiest session you do you
51:46
feel like that and put the question in their mind
51:48
and if they say yeah i'm fine and
51:50
that kind all can do but you can only put questions
51:52
to them to say he's my observation
51:54
about how you seem to be doing do you agree with
51:56
that and leave it there yeah
51:58
i agree think the one thing hey that hurts
52:01
me to see christ i might get hit
52:02
me too for you hurting like this so often
52:05
but if you want to be a really good
52:07
best friend to lucy i truly
52:09
believe the way to be a good best friend is
52:11
to let your best friends make mistakes let them
52:13
live their life the way they will and let
52:15
them know you will be there in nyc
52:17
one on no matter how taxing it is at the time for
52:19
you you will be there for them when
52:21
things go to shit that's your role as a best
52:23
friend you to not say anything that will make
52:25
this woman leave her relationship whole hardly
52:28
believe that you can say something that will let
52:30
her know if she does leave your
52:32
and her corner yeah and i think the most
52:34
damaging thing for was that nice to have
52:36
that wedge between you all my heart
52:38
has an intervention in fact i think most
52:40
important thing is the to work out how
52:42
to get over that awkwardness that year old
52:44
and right now don't make the wedge bigger
52:47
make small i'm sorry for the shit metaphor cbs
52:51
, a good metaphor there and not yet
52:53
adorned please do not hold an intervention
52:55
i really this is one those mailbags
52:58
where i hope we got to it in time for
53:00
for hammer and many cows
53:02
intervention because can tell you right now that
53:04
will not repair repair
53:07
lead make it so i'm happy
53:09
to deputy head and if we have home
53:11
of the intervention go out to coffee
53:13
and to catch up with the best friend and let know
53:16
your mother yeah guys i think that is
53:18
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53:20
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53:22
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