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1:07

Hi, I'm Sandra Champlain. For

1:10

over twenty five years, I've been

1:12

on a journey to prove the existence

1:14

of life after death. On each

1:17

episode, we'll discuss the reasons

1:19

we now know that our loved

1:21

ones have survived physical debt and

1:23

so will we.

1:26

Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife.

1:28

In nineteen twenty six, the physics

1:30

professor William Barrett described

1:33

a remarkable incident associated

1:36

with a dying school aged girl

1:38

The account is retold by the dying

1:41

child's brother, who was present

1:43

at the time. She knew she

1:45

was passing away and was telling

1:47

her mother how to dispose of her

1:49

little personal belongings among

1:52

her close friends and playmates, when

1:54

she suddenly raised her eyes

1:56

as though gazing at the ceiling

1:59

toward the farther side of the room, and

2:01

after looking steadily and apparently

2:04

listening for a short time, slightly

2:07

bowed her head and said, yes,

2:09

Grandma, I am coming, only

2:12

just wait a little while please. Our

2:15

father asked her, Pattie,

2:17

do you see your grandma? Seemingly

2:20

surprised at the question, she promptly

2:23

answered, yes, Papa, can't

2:25

you see her? She is right there

2:27

waiting for me. At the same

2:29

time, she pointed to the ceiling

2:31

in the direction in which she had been gazing,

2:34

again addressing the vision she evidently

2:37

had of her grandmother. She scowled

2:39

a little impatiently and said, yes,

2:42

Grandma, I'm coming, but wait

2:44

a minute please. Then

2:46

she turned once more to her mother and

2:49

finished telling her of what her personal

2:51

treasures were to give to her

2:53

different friends, at

2:56

last giving her attention once

2:58

more to her grandma, who was apparently

3:01

urging her to come at once. She

3:03

bade us each goodbye.

3:05

Her voice was very feeble and faint,

3:08

but the look in her eyes as she glanced

3:10

briefly at each one of us was

3:13

as life like and as intelligent

3:15

as it could be. She then

3:18

fixed her eyes steadily on the vision,

3:20

but so faintly that we could

3:23

just catch her words saying, yes,

3:26

Grandma, I'm coming now. Then,

3:29

without a struggle or evidence of

3:32

pain of any kind, she

3:34

gazed steadily in the direction she

3:36

had pointed out to us where she

3:38

saw Grandma, until the absence

3:41

of oxygen in her bloodstream because

3:43

respiration had ceased,

3:46

leaving her hands in face covered

3:49

with lifelessness. In two

3:51

thousand and nine, I was part of a large

3:53

medical study examining the

3:55

last days and hours

3:58

of life for palliative care patients

4:00

in India. We interviewed

4:02

one hundred families about their loved ones

4:05

last days. In one of these

4:07

interviews, I came upon a

4:09

remarkable story of another

4:11

child whose experience paralleled

4:14

to the one I just recounted. Anita

4:17

was an eight year old girl dying of AIDS,

4:20

but with no medical history of opioid

4:23

or painkiller use. In

4:25

the week leading up to her death, Her

4:27

prescribed pharmacology. Therapy

4:30

consisted of some antibiotics

4:33

anti virals, but most

4:35

of these were refused by the child during

4:37

this period. On the day that she

4:39

died, Anita announced to her

4:41

mother in a very matter

4:43

of fact way that her late

4:46

grandmother had come to sit with

4:48

her. Her grandmother had died

4:51

four months previously. The

4:53

grandmother would sit beside her in

4:55

chat, occasionally calling

4:58

for her mother. She had

5:00

said, don't hug or hold me anymore,

5:03

don't put me on your lap, because

5:05

it's time for me to go now. Don't

5:07

do any more things for me. I

5:09

am going with grandmother and I need

5:12

to go now. And later that

5:14

day she died. What

5:16

I just read to you was written by

5:18

Professor Alan Kelleher,

5:21

author of such books as The

5:23

Study of Dying From Autonomy

5:26

to Transformation and The

5:28

Inner Life of the Dying Person,

5:30

and these words came from the book Visitors

5:33

at the End of Life Finding Meaning

5:36

and Purpose in near death phenomena.

5:40

I know we've talked many times on Shades

5:42

of the Afterlife about these deathbed

5:44

visitors that come to us within

5:47

days or hours, or sometimes even

5:50

a month before passing. Out

5:52

of all the reasons we have to believe

5:54

in the afterlife. For me, I

5:57

think the most comforting stories

6:00

I hear are about these

6:02

visitors that come. We

6:05

know and we trust that

6:07

we have invisible beings and loved ones

6:09

that join us on this earth,

6:11

and they're cheering us on and

6:13

someday when we return home, we'll

6:16

get to hug them again. But the fact

6:18

that no one dies alone, that

6:20

we have friends and loved ones

6:23

that take us across the vale, well,

6:26

those stories are so meaningful

6:28

to me. So while we're here

6:30

together, I'd like to share more

6:33

stories of some of these wonderful

6:36

visitors that take us home and

6:38

also give some comfort that we

6:40

are never alone.

6:43

It's not easy being human, and I

6:45

don't think it was meant to be. When

6:47

we look back on our life, I'm sure we can agree

6:50

that there's a lot of growth that came

6:52

out of our toughest times. Each

6:54

one of us is on our own unique

6:56

journey that help and support

6:59

is around. If you're new to Shades

7:01

of the Afterlife, or even if you're

7:03

not, I just got the domain

7:05

name Shadesoftheafterlife

7:08

dot com, where you can easily

7:10

find all of the episodes

7:12

and if you're interested in more of

7:15

these wonderful stories of deathbed

7:17

visitors. You can check out episodes

7:20

seven eighty one,

7:22

two to two and one five

7:24

four. Here's some more stories,

7:27

this one from a hospice worker. I

7:30

recently witnessed a profound deathbed

7:32

vision while I was on site during

7:34

a training. An older woman

7:37

in the later stages of pancreatic cancer

7:39

who was under a close supervision due

7:42

to her declining condition, was

7:44

understandably upset

7:47

about her life. Although she was

7:49

declining, she wasn't expected

7:51

to pass for another few weeks.

7:54

I was shadowing an older resident

7:56

RN on site, and we stopped

7:59

by her room and we chatted with her

8:01

for a while, the usual charting

8:03

and pain management. Shebang, Suddenly,

8:06

her demeanor changed completely to

8:09

one of complete happiness and acceptance.

8:12

She smiled, gazed to a

8:14

corner of the room like she was staring

8:17

right through us, and remarked,

8:19

Oh, thank goodness, Randy, I

8:22

was afraid you wouldn't show up. I'm

8:24

ready to go now. As I was

8:26

informed later by another nurse

8:28

who had spoken with her daughter, Randy

8:31

was her husband of thirty two years,

8:34

who had passed some years prior.

8:37

She sat up, smiling, reached

8:39

for the corner of the room. Her

8:41

breathing subsequently slowed

8:44

and you could see the life leave

8:46

her body as she took her last breath,

8:49

and she fell on the pillow behind her.

8:51

The resident RN, who's been there

8:53

for almost twenty years, didn't

8:56

even bat an eye. She said

8:59

this incredibly common. Barbara

9:02

Karnes, an end of life educator

9:04

who worked as a hospice nurse, said

9:07

she had many similar experiences.

9:09

In the weeks and days prior to death.

9:12

She said patients typically

9:14

engage in a life review, contemplating

9:17

their triumphs, mistakes, and choices.

9:20

Many do begin talking to people

9:22

in a world that others can't see.

9:25

The person has withdrawn from

9:27

this world and they seem to be living

9:29

in another world. They can hear

9:31

you, but to them it sounds

9:34

like it's afar. Carnes recalled

9:36

her own mother who had conversations

9:39

with her recently deceased stepfather,

9:42

as well as an angel who went from

9:44

peeking through the window to approaching

9:46

close to the bedside. In another

9:49

instance, Carnes said, a young

9:51

boy born with aides began

9:53

collecting money in the weeks prior

9:55

to his death for a trip to

9:57

see his parents, both of of

10:00

whom had died. Hours before

10:02

his death, the four year old started

10:04

grinning, pointing to the upper

10:07

corner of the bedroom and calling

10:09

his mother by name. He stayed

10:11

focused on that corner until

10:13

he died. Carn said, you

10:16

can't convince me that his mom

10:18

wasn't there to help him get from this world

10:21

to the next. Psychologist

10:23

Marilyn Mendoza, a clinical

10:25

instructor of psychiatry at

10:28

Tulane University Medical Center,

10:30

became interested in deathbed visions

10:33

after her mother experienced several.

10:36

Early one Sunday afternoon, Mendoza

10:38

was straightening up her mother's room as

10:41

she lay in bed when her mother called

10:43

her over and said she was

10:45

ready to go. I hugged

10:47

her and I gave her a kiss, and then it

10:49

got really quiet, Mendoza said.

10:52

And then the next thing was she

10:54

got really angry. She

10:56

said, they tell me it's not my number.

10:59

I can't go. Yet another

11:01

time, her mother reported that

11:04

she couldn't leave because her

11:06

mother, Mendoza's grandmother,

11:09

with whom she'd had a tempestuous

11:12

relationship, was blocking

11:14

the doorway. Mendoza feels

11:16

certain these issues were resolved

11:18

before she died. My mom

11:20

died on a Sunday, June

11:23

fourth, she said, and after

11:25

that experience, she was

11:27

inspired to conduct a survey

11:30

of nurses from specialties

11:32

such as hospice and oncology

11:35

to explore this deathbed

11:37

visitation phenomena. Tawny

11:40

Batty, a nurse and end of life

11:42

educator, says that family members

11:44

who feel responsible and maybe

11:47

even guilty for not being present

11:49

at the moment of death can take comfort

11:51

knowing that there is help from

11:54

the other side. Nobody

11:56

dies alone, she said, somebody

11:59

is all always there with them,

12:02

adding that bereaved family members

12:05

can experience similar comforts

12:07

a dream in which the dead person

12:09

assures the living that they're all

12:11

right, a sensory experience

12:14

in which a smell or touch appears

12:17

that they can associate with their loved one.

12:20

At one talk she gave, nurse

12:23

Batti found that a room full of

12:25

thirty six people all

12:27

had such post death

12:30

experiences. She says,

12:32

if we started sharing these stories more

12:35

and normalizing them, how

12:37

would that impact how

12:39

we approach the end of our lives.

12:42

It's not going to change the pain

12:44

part of it of losing someone

12:46

we love, but it takes away

12:48

that extra sting and leaves

12:51

us with a sense of awe

12:54

when we come back from the break. We are

12:57

going to hear more stories

12:59

of these wonderful companions that

13:02

remind us we are never

13:04

alone and we are dearly

13:07

loved. So we'll be right

13:09

back. You're listening to Shades

13:11

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14:00

Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

14:02

I'm Sandra Champlain. Lev

14:05

Shestov said, it happens

14:07

sometimes that the angel of Death, when

14:09

he comes for a soul, sees

14:12

that he has come too soon, that

14:14

the man's term of life is

14:16

not yet expired. So he

14:18

does not take the soul away, but

14:20

leaves the man with one of innumerable

14:23

pairs of eyes with which

14:25

his body is covered. And then the

14:27

man sees strange and new

14:30

things, more than other men

14:32

see, and more than he sees

14:34

himself with his natural eyes.

14:38

That quote hit a nerve for me.

14:40

I remember a friend of mine after she

14:43

was diagnosed with breast cancer, she

14:45

got a new lease on life.

14:48

She said, the little things that

14:50

used to worry her became

14:53

no big deal anymore. Sounds

14:55

became brighter, voices

14:58

became happier, color became

15:00

more intense. It was as

15:02

if she was seeing the world

15:05

through a new set of eyes. It

15:07

reminds me of doctor Wayne Dyer's

15:10

quote when you change the

15:12

way you look at things, the things

15:14

you look at change. Whether

15:17

it's a near death experience, an

15:19

illness, or perhaps we are

15:21

with a loved one when they pass and

15:24

we're lucky enough to witness

15:26

them experiencing a loved one

15:28

coming for them. I think we do get

15:30

that new vision, as this quote

15:32

by Lev Shestov says, leaving

15:35

us with an innumerable pair of eyes.

15:38

When we talk about life after death,

15:40

I think the reason we all want

15:42

it and we all want to know that it's true,

15:45

is to help us live a better life.

15:47

To know that our loved ones are still around,

15:50

and then we'll get to see them again and

15:52

it can give some meaning to our life.

15:55

I don't want any of us to have

15:57

a near death experience, but if we can

16:00

have that transformation and be

16:02

able to live a greater quality

16:04

of life with fresh eyes that

16:07

can experience so much. That's

16:09

what I want from these episodes. Doctor

16:11

Michael Barbiteau is a retired

16:14

palliative care physician an author

16:16

of the books Caring for

16:18

the Dying and Reflections

16:21

of a Setting Sun, Healing Experiences

16:25

around Death. He says, I

16:27

have worked as a palliative care doctor

16:29

for almost twenty five years. The

16:32

transition from mainstream medicine

16:34

was more challenging than I had imagined.

16:37

For the first time, I encountered people,

16:40

in the course of their dying described

16:42

experiences that defied logic.

16:45

These included visions of predeceased

16:48

relatives, prophetic dreams,

16:50

out of body experiences, and

16:53

waking from a comatose state immediately

16:55

before death. Others exhibited

16:58

a serenity I had not considered

17:00

possible. He says. The

17:02

magnificent of such enigmatic

17:05

phenomena is captured in this

17:07

one remarkable sentence spoken

17:10

by an elderly woman to her grieving family

17:13

just before she died. Beaming

17:15

with a smile, she said, my bags

17:17

are packed, my boat has come.

17:20

I am going on a beautiful holiday, and

17:23

none of you can come with me. He shares

17:25

these stories Laura had been

17:27

unwell for many months. She had

17:29

an aggressive form of cancer that had

17:31

spread throughout her body. She

17:34

was a determined woman, and despite

17:36

increasing weakness and weight

17:38

loss, she tenaciously

17:41

hung onto her independence. It

17:43

ultimately took a fall at home before

17:45

she would accept admission to the local

17:47

palliative care unit. Over

17:50

time, her condition deteriorated and

17:52

it became clear to her family and

17:54

her carers that she was dying.

17:57

Laura knew about her cancer, but

18:00

as had been her habit, she politely

18:02

steered any conversation away

18:05

from her ill health and welfare. She

18:08

was frightened, and her fear of death

18:10

had been exacerbated by

18:12

the sudden and unexpected death of

18:14

her husband, Tony some weeks

18:17

before. The family and hospital

18:19

staff wondered how she would

18:21

cope. When the moment of truth came.

18:24

The night before Laura died, she said

18:26

to her daughter, Tony is coming

18:28

tonight. Stunned by this statement,

18:31

her daughter asked, what are you going

18:33

to do, to which Laura happily

18:35

replied, I think we will

18:37

go dancing. Laura

18:39

and Tony both loved dancing, and

18:41

it was at a dance that they had first

18:44

met. Laura died peacefully

18:46

in her sleep that very night. And

18:48

this is the story of Trent. Trent

18:51

was a young man with rapidly advancing

18:54

cancer. It had spread to his

18:56

bones, which resulted in considerable

18:59

pain. Despite frequent

19:01

courses of radiotherapy and large

19:03

doses of morphine, the pain increased,

19:06

necessitating his admission to

19:08

the hospital. Adjustments

19:10

to treatment resulted in some, though

19:13

not complete, pain relief. Despite

19:16

the large doses of morphine. Trent

19:18

remained lucid at all times. He

19:21

was a popular personality and his hospital

19:23

room was always overflowing with visitors.

19:26

One evening, his father joined the

19:29

hordes of people in the room, and

19:31

as he went to sit on the only empty

19:34

chair, his son called out, be

19:36

careful, dad, don't sit on my friend.

19:39

The father, looking at the empty chair,

19:41

asked what friend. He

19:43

is a good friend and he is here to help

19:46

me, Trent said, and he went

19:48

on to explain that his friend had, unbeknown

19:51

to everyone, been with him for

19:53

several days and often occupied

19:56

that chair when no one was around. Everyone

19:59

was stunned. And the story of Jane.

20:02

Several years ago, I was one of many doctors

20:04

looking after five year old Jane,

20:07

who had leukemia. She had been sick

20:09

for most of her short life, and at

20:11

the time of my involvement, she was close

20:13

to death. Although she was unable

20:16

to express her feelings, she was

20:18

clearly frightened, and for this reason

20:21

had for the past few months shared

20:23

her parents' King Siz's bed at night. Every

20:26

morning, her father would rise early to

20:28

make his wife a cup of tea. Jane

20:31

was usually asleep at these times. One

20:34

morning, he was surprised to find

20:36

her wide awake, but chose not to

20:38

say anything as she was staring

20:40

out the window, and for the

20:42

first time in months, appeared

20:44

serene, peaceful, with

20:46

a smile on her face. When

20:49

he returned some minutes later with the

20:51

cup of tea, he found his daughter

20:53

had died. It may be speculative,

20:55

but I would like to believe Jane was

20:57

not looking aimlessly out the window,

21:00

but was enthralled by a deathbed

21:02

visitor. An eight year old boy

21:05

dying of cancer whose parents had

21:07

avoided talking to him about death,

21:09

told them one day that he dreamed

21:12

that Jesus had pulled up to his house

21:14

in a big yellow bus and invited

21:16

him aboard, telling him he

21:19

was soon to die and come home. This

21:21

is a story from doctor Elizabeth

21:24

Koobler Ross. There was an American

21:26

Indian woman who was hit by a hit and run

21:28

driver on the highway and

21:30

was near death when a total stranger stopped

21:33

and asked if he could do anything

21:35

to help her. She said, no, there

21:37

is nothing else you can do for me. But then

21:40

on second thought, she said, if

21:42

one day you go to the Indian Reservation,

21:45

tell my mother that I was okay, that

21:47

I was not only okay, but very

21:49

happy because I am already

21:52

with my dad. And then she died

21:54

in the arms of the stranger. This

21:56

man was so touched that he was at

21:58

the right time, at the right place, that

22:00

he drove seven hundred miles

22:03

out of his way to the Indian Reservation,

22:06

where the American Indian mother told

22:08

him that her husband, the

22:10

victim's dad, died one

22:12

hour before the car accident of

22:15

a coronary on the Indian Reservation,

22:18

seven hundred miles apart.

22:20

Doctor Christopher Kerr, who

22:22

wrote the book Death Is But a Dream,

22:25

is the chief executive Officer and chief

22:27

medical Officer of Hospice

22:30

and Palliative Care Buffalo,

22:32

New York. Here is a clip

22:34

of a son talking about

22:37

his mother's end of life vision

22:39

and her visitors.

22:41

Well, just prior to her going

22:43

into the unit, she was

22:45

having those experiences

22:47

here home, especially

22:50

like made she was home and

22:52

I would ask her and I who are you

22:54

talking to? She would call these people

22:56

by name and I know who they

22:58

were on for

23:01

a while, so that was the start,

23:03

and I continued on along

23:06

with those conversations. She

23:09

had also made

23:11

the prediction a week

23:14

before she passed. She made

23:16

the comment he told

23:18

me the end of the week. And I

23:20

asked her, and I said, who's

23:23

he? And she just

23:25

pointed up to the ceiling and she looked

23:27

up at the ceiling and

23:29

I said, well, what do you mean the end of the week, And

23:32

she just looked at me and she said death. What

23:35

do you say to that? And

23:37

she was lucid. It wasn't like

23:39

she was in and out of

23:42

consciousness.

23:44

At the time, at the time.

23:45

Time at the time.

23:46

So when she was so like I said, this was

23:48

like about seven days before

23:53

and then she had made

23:55

colon day to another visitor

23:58

and as I was basically

24:00

said the same thing. You

24:02

know where at the end of the week,

24:05

you know, And we said, well

24:07

to the end of the week, I'll be dead.

24:10

You know. Somebody's laying there. You know, they're

24:13

not doing well, and surely

24:15

nobody's telling them that,

24:18

none of the staff, none of the family, you

24:21

know. And then after that, then

24:23

you know, the continuation of the conversations

24:27

with past family members,

24:29

friends. And then one

24:31

of the last ones that she had was

24:34

with a parish priest when

24:36

I was growing up. This priest

24:38

had been murdered in the

24:41

rectory garage and

24:43

this was back in January of

24:46

nineteen sixty. He was talking

24:48

to her because she said his name

24:50

twice in two different cases.

24:53

She called out his name.

24:54

And so, and she not only mentioned it to us,

24:57

she had mentioned it to one of the staff who

25:00

up and to know the story of

25:02

this priest.

25:03

And it just.

25:04

Blew her away, because

25:06

she commented to us unless she mentioned

25:09

father, beaut probably

25:11

up until the last three days,

25:13

maybe I would say the last

25:15

three days. And then

25:17

she was pretty much sedated,

25:19

pretty good.

25:21

What was looked very.

25:22

Peaceful, you know, like

25:24

she had had her

25:26

conversations, you know, people

25:28

who had come to her, you know,

25:31

which I think brought her a lot of comfort,

25:34

you know. But that's pretty

25:36

much what covered those eleven days.

25:38

And I

25:40

was I was okay with all because

25:44

I knew they were helping.

25:45

Her get ready.

25:48

Helping her get ready. It's a natural

25:51

process, one that we are looked

25:53

after, cared for, and we

25:55

don't go through it alone. When

25:57

we get back from break, we'll hear some

25:59

words from the dying about living.

26:02

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26:05

on the iHeartRadio and Coast Coast

26:07

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26:10

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26:16

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26:19

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26:27

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26:29

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26:32

Listen anytime, any place.

26:39

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26:41

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26:43

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26:45

Thanks for being here.

26:46

Now let's get back to more with Sandra.

27:02

Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm

27:04

Sandra Champlain sharing

27:06

some stories of deathbed

27:09

visions that no one dies

27:11

alone and we have a cheering

27:13

committee friends loved ones

27:16

there to bring us home. To

27:18

me, it is the most comforting thing

27:21

to know that not only in life, but

27:23

in death, we have friends

27:26

invisibly by our side.

27:28

In this segment, I want you to hear the

27:31

voices of some

27:33

of the dying and some of their experiences,

27:36

and one is even a message

27:38

for the living.

27:40

Now.

27:40

These dreams are true to life.

27:42

They are just as clear

27:44

as if the dying person is talking

27:47

to a doctor or a family member in

27:49

the room. They are absolutely

27:52

that real. If you have not

27:54

yet gotten yourself a copy of the book

27:57

Death Is But a Dream by doctor

27:59

Chris for Kerr, I highly

28:02

recommend it. As a hospice physician,

28:05

he studied more than sixteen

28:07

hundred dying patients

28:09

and tells so many incredible stories.

28:12

This next story comes from

28:15

Palliative Care Buffalo, and

28:17

this is the story told by

28:20

Jeanne.

28:21

This was a very

28:25

significant thing. But when

28:27

I woke up, I was happy. It left

28:29

me with a good feeling that somebody

28:32

was there. I was laying

28:34

in bed and people

28:36

were walking very slowly by

28:39

me. The

28:41

right hand side I didn't know, but

28:44

they were all very friendly and they touched

28:46

my arm or my hand

28:50

when they went by. But the

28:52

other side were people that

28:54

I knew. My mom and dad were there, my

28:58

uncle, everybody

29:01

I knew that was dead was

29:03

there, and they passed

29:05

and did the same thing. The

29:08

only thing was my

29:10

husband wasn't there.

29:12

Nor was my dog.

29:14

And I knew that I would be seeing

29:17

them or hoping

29:19

to see them during

29:22

the period of time. After

29:24

I woke up the next day, I

29:26

assume I felt good.

29:29

I felt good to see some

29:31

people and

29:34

the other ones didn't bother me either. When

29:37

I told my family that I

29:40

was happy about it, and that's what they asked,

29:43

how does it make you feel? Well? I

29:45

feel good about it. I thought it was a good

29:48

dream. But boy, I remember

29:50

seeing every piece of

29:52

their face, and

29:54

I mean I know that was my mom and dad

29:56

and uncle and my brother in laws. I

29:59

have seen my mom other recently

30:02

more.

30:04

How do you feel when you when you see

30:06

her?

30:08

Oh, wonderful.

30:11

I can't say that my mother and I got

30:13

along all those years, but

30:17

we made.

30:17

Up for it at the end.

30:19

Yeah, but I never realized it as much as

30:21

lately. It seems like I'm doing

30:24

more and having more substantial

30:26

dreams than if people

30:29

would understand them or go pooh

30:31

pool And you know, I don't

30:33

believe in that kind of stuff. I

30:35

think more and more people are getting

30:38

a little bit more hip to dreams than

30:42

than they were before.

30:44

Doctor Kurr says some patients

30:46

describe dead friends and relatives

30:49

in these dreams as waiting

30:52

for them. One woman reported

30:54

that she had both waking and

30:57

sleeping dreams of six

30:59

family members in her room. She

31:02

added that they were waiting for me,

31:04

and that she felt it was really

31:06

good to see them. Three days

31:09

before another woman died, she

31:11

reported experiencing both

31:14

waking visions and dreams

31:17

of being at the top of a staircase

31:20

with her dead husband waiting

31:22

for her at the bottom of the

31:24

staircase. Once again,

31:26

the presence of these dead friends and family

31:28

members was experienced

31:30

as comforting. There

31:33

were patients, however, who

31:35

expressed that they were not ready to die,

31:38

and these patients experienced

31:40

some distress at the fact

31:42

that the dead were in fact

31:45

waiting for them. Next,

31:47

I'd like to play for you some

31:49

words from Alice.

31:52

Alice is a palliative care

31:54

patient, and her words with

31:56

her illness are somewhat

31:59

muffled. I feel that your

32:01

soul will understand most

32:03

of what she is trying to say, if

32:06

not all, because her joy

32:08

and her passion and her message

32:11

for all of us is profound.

32:13

Here's Alice.

32:15

My name is Alice Smith. I'm

32:17

seventy nine, was

32:19

married twice. My first husband died,

32:21

my second husband I descouded.

32:25

I have three surviving Silvera

32:27

my other son died. I'm

32:30

presently an independent living that

32:33

a tomal disease. It's not thermo,

32:36

la femo, a number of didatas,

32:39

but that's the man.

32:40

Mom, and

32:43

I don't.

32:43

Know if I love that long as well. We don't

32:45

know.

32:47

I'm having thought and there's a tempess

32:49

ministry that comes around.

32:51

My name is Renee, and

32:54

she leads me through meditation, and

32:57

she usually plays a song and

33:00

she'll read a verse of

33:02

some thought. But this

33:05

time she started out with here

33:07

I.

33:07

Am Lord, which is a very

33:10

one of a song that I like.

33:12

I used to be able to park, I

33:15

used to be able to sing, and

33:17

I just love to sing that song

33:19

where I was able to sing.

33:22

As I would saying for the meditation, and

33:25

my eyes closed listening

33:28

to the words.

33:30

And in front of him up here my mother,

33:33

in front of my father, and

33:36

behind them was my husband

33:38

who died in nineteen.

33:39

Seventy four, my

33:42

son who died in two thousand and eleven,

33:46

my brother Noramy.

33:47

I was his dared he died

33:50

at the age of sixty five in

33:52

two thousand and nine,

33:55

and my mom had one head up

33:57

to me.

33:58

I found this enormous

34:01

love.

34:02

You just can't explain the enormous

34:05

love I felt coming

34:07

from my mother to me.

34:10

I never felt that that

34:12

kind of fit when she was alive.

34:14

I knew she loved me, trust

34:16

me, I knew that, but everything she did.

34:20

But this love was so warm,

34:22

and IN loved it.

34:24

And they were all there and went

34:26

behind them, larger than

34:29

Jesus.

34:32

When the song ended, I

34:34

looked him and they, and.

34:36

All I said is I'm gonna have

34:38

one hell of a want in the party,

34:41

but I need to heaven.

34:42

And then I ticed me. I used hell

34:45

in the same sentence that us heaven.

34:48

But it was so

34:51

warm, so it

34:55

hards me explain the joy and the

34:57

peace.

34:58

They were as all and sick as

35:00

they were going to die.

35:03

They were younger.

35:06

My son was the same age, but

35:08

he wasn't sick.

35:10

The blowingness from his disease

35:12

and the cancer was gone.

35:14

My brother nor me was

35:16

able to see. He wasn't fight anymore, and

35:19

he smiled. He looked lovely.

35:21

My dad was happy. He always wasn't a happy

35:24

person. My husband

35:27

is serious. He died in serious. He

35:29

looked and he did in his series. He

35:32

had that age and the papador

35:35

the night successy

35:38

and my mom wasn't

35:40

I I saw her. She wasn't stand bones.

35:43

She was healthy as she used to be a while.

35:45

She made dinners on Sunday and.

35:48

My dad was right behind her. He has

35:50

hand on her shoulder. He just

35:52

feck.

35:53

How is expressed intense

35:56

love?

35:57

I never fucked that

36:00

and chance love in my life. It's

36:02

beyond physical. It wasn't physical. It

36:05

was internal, spiritual.

36:07

Perhaps if it's a tarry diver

36:10

beneath them, they're not making

36:12

it up. It given't comfort.

36:15

You have your own emotions. You're losing someone.

36:18

They're trying to take them. You mind them

36:20

the river, but they made it in

36:23

comfort. From the end of

36:25

life vision.

36:26

This is living the hope of

36:28

a life beyond support.

36:31

Them to hold their hand, be

36:33

them. We need

36:36

you to lead them. We

36:39

need your love. We

36:42

need you to say I'll

36:44

lead them using their home. My

36:47

mom didn't die in hospice,

36:49

as I told her.

36:51

Mom, living your brother,

36:53

living your parents, I'll

36:55

think there there.

36:57

No they're waiting for you.

37:00

She died this morning.

37:03

Tell them if they would be something,

37:06

tell them it's okay to

37:08

know. Is there anything you'd like to share

37:10

with Propenny? Healthcare professionals about this experience.

37:14

They are patients.

37:17

You are the ones the

37:20

help I do fight and my husband's

37:22

people more than my family.

37:25

I know.

37:25

I burned my family, I

37:27

burned the housbands. They're

37:30

fame. They will

37:32

help you.

37:34

I have more, have been nurses, help my

37:36

husband, transician professions.

37:38

Take care of those people. We

37:41

will buy on you. You deserve

37:44

every I think, ay you think

37:46

that.

37:47

I know. It was difficult to understand

37:49

Alice's words. But her mom, her

37:51

dad, her brother, her son, who

37:54

are all in the afterlife, she saw

37:56

as healthy and well. Her

37:59

brother was no longer blind, her

38:01

son, who died very bloated from

38:03

cancer, was healthy, young

38:06

and well, and her husband

38:08

looked in his thirties with his

38:11

pompadour hairdoo and she said

38:13

he was sexy. Her message

38:15

is you may be losing someone

38:18

and you want them to live, but

38:20

at the end of their life, support

38:22

them, hold their hand, be

38:25

there for them, understand

38:27

their visions are real. And

38:30

her message for healthcare providers

38:33

believe your patients that she

38:36

confided in her hospice people

38:38

more than her family. They were trained

38:41

and they could take it. And she gave

38:43

accolades to the healthcare providers

38:46

and how special they are.

38:48

Let's go to the break and there's much more

38:51

to come. You're listening to Shades

38:53

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39:05

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39:06

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39:08

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39:15

Hey, it's producer Tom and you're right where you need

39:18

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39:18

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39:21

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39:28

Hey everyone, it's the Wizard of

39:30

Weird Joshua pe Warren

39:32

and now here's more Shades

39:35

of the Afterlife.

39:51

Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.

39:53

I'm Sanders Champlaine. Back

39:55

in two thousand and twenty one,

39:58

Las Vegas aerospace entrepreneur

40:01

Robert Bigelow announced

40:03

his very first contest looking

40:06

for evidence of life after death.

40:09

Since then, he has given out

40:11

over two million dollars in prize

40:13

money, and his website

40:16

Bigelowinstitute dot

40:18

org has some fascinating

40:21

essays of why to

40:23

believe in the afterlife. Now

40:25

this isn't light reading. These are

40:28

chock full of evidence

40:31

and supporting material. In

40:33

the twenty twenty one contest,

40:36

one of the honorable

40:38

mentions was our friend

40:41

doctor Christopher Kerr. You

40:43

can read a lot of supporting

40:45

details about these deathbed

40:48

visions and also check

40:50

out his book Death Is But a Dream

40:53

and visit his website

40:55

doctor Christopher Kerr dot

40:58

com. This episode will

41:00

be aired during the holiday

41:02

season, but I'm aware you

41:04

may be listening to this at any time

41:07

of the year, so whether you are

41:09

celebrating the holidays, a

41:12

birthday, an anniversary.

41:15

Next, I'd like to play for you a

41:18

special message from our

41:20

friend Eric through the trance

41:22

mediumship of Scott Milligan. How

41:25

special you are and how close

41:27

your loved ones are.

41:29

Step ever so gently

41:32

throughout this life in which

41:35

you live, but

41:37

stamp so loudly in

41:40

the world of your dreams.

41:43

Of this world in which you live is

41:46

ever so fragchild for you.

41:49

But isn't everything that is

41:52

beautiful is

41:54

fragchild for

41:56

each of you who are born to

42:00

listen to our world naturality,

42:05

Our world listens to you,

42:09

for we come only to serve

42:13

to serve God. However once

42:16

is God or

42:18

many of you, Oh

42:21

the gifts of the soul that

42:25

serves the spirit. In

42:28

cooperation with each other,

42:32

we walk with you, or

42:36

it was once said, if

42:38

you are to follow me, I

42:41

will abandon you. If

42:44

I was to follow you, you abandon

42:47

me. Or I

42:49

walk only by

42:52

the sign, no

42:55

one in front or less

42:57

behind. We are

43:00

patient with the steps,

43:03

but within your dreams, the

43:07

soul experience whatever

43:11

the mind can pain, for

43:15

her soul has come for experience.

43:19

But walk in both

43:21

worlds. Sometimes

43:25

it is a foolish dream, but

43:28

dream nevertheless. Or

43:31

you see through child's eyes

43:35

such innocent for

43:39

they still echo the

43:41

world in which they come from, and

43:45

how this world is molding

43:48

a potential, for

43:51

it is a step to

43:53

a greater world to come. But

43:57

we are reminded as

44:00

you approach the festival of

44:02

life, so

44:04

many people will

44:07

view this time differently.

44:11

For it is not the size

44:14

or the glitter of the

44:16

gift you give that

44:19

will cause you worry

44:23

in the months that follows. It

44:26

is a gift of your

44:29

company. For

44:31

a child to be heard, a

44:35

child to stand with you,

44:38

to create memory.

44:41

That is the gift that they carry.

44:44

For turn y, For

44:47

a toy that is given today

44:50

will simply be discarded

44:53

as this world continues

44:55

to influence. For

44:58

we cannot give you pockets

45:01

of gold or silver, but

45:05

we can give you knowledge,

45:08

share story, or

45:11

simply listen that

45:14

enriches the whole fabric

45:16

of existence. For

45:19

many of you who have prayed, you

45:22

have prayed for peace, You

45:25

have prayed for warmth and comfort.

45:29

As money seems

45:31

to cause such distress

45:35

in a time where your

45:37

world is bright, Do

45:41

not concern your serums,

45:44

my friends. If the

45:46

turkey is not as fat

45:49

or plump as the one

45:51

before, do

45:53

not concern yourself. Is

45:57

the glass is only

45:59

a little instead

46:01

of being a love, but

46:04

concern yourself with this, my

46:06

friends. But

46:08

it's a sharing your love. And

46:11

if children run and mark,

46:15

do not respond in

46:17

anger, but run

46:19

with them. Be

46:22

with them.

46:25

Oh, there are countries of your world

46:29

where it isn't so, and

46:32

children are viewed to be

46:34

different. The

46:37

table will not be set, the

46:40

plate will be empty.

46:44

You hear in your houses and

46:46

your wholes great celebrations,

46:49

and others will hear the

46:52

sound of war. People

46:55

will pray for snow, and

46:58

a dusting will be granted.

47:02

Others will pray for warmth,

47:05

for they have no billow to

47:08

rest their weary here. Now,

47:11

I've not come here to be a

47:13

story teller or

47:16

to remind you of

47:18

the tales of Scrooge.

47:22

Those who have little

47:25

the naturality have a love

47:29

because they squeeze every ounce

47:32

of fun and enjoyment

47:35

for what they have. Those

47:39

who throw money

47:42

a children who are petulant,

47:46

it will never be enough. For

47:49

look back when one was a child.

47:53

One who have a handful

47:55

of coal, an

47:58

apple or an orange.

48:01

For if one lived by the docks,

48:04

the spiceships their

48:07

fragrance, who

48:09

carry it on the cold breath of wind?

48:13

For we knew then it

48:16

is about bringing our

48:19

families together. So

48:22

the spirit of this year

48:25

is to be thankful for

48:28

the air that you breathe, the

48:31

peace that you hear, and

48:34

the spirit that walks through

48:37

us all. No

48:39

matter what faith you carry,

48:42

you could always find enjoyment

48:46

listening to others who

48:49

are celebrating at this time.

48:52

Knowledge is the true currency of

48:55

your world. Share

48:57

it wisely, there is

48:59

once again the sun has

49:01

set, and I will

49:03

go silent to

49:06

your ears, but not

49:08

silent to your heart. For

49:11

if you are to place your hand across

49:14

your heart, what you

49:16

feel is your

49:18

beat of your own heart. But

49:22

also for love, the

49:24

one that stands with you is

49:28

trying to say I'm

49:31

still there. So

49:34

if you are distress and

49:36

you feel that you are aknown

49:39

place your hand across your heart

49:43

and hear the voice of all those

49:46

you miss. We

49:48

are carried in your heart as

49:51

you are carried in all

49:53

love. Good day to

49:55

you, my friend, and.

49:58

Good day to Eric. You

50:00

can meet Eric and ask your own questions

50:02

on a Friday with Scott Milligan

50:04

and myself. You can simply find

50:07

our next in the Arms of Eternity

50:09

at We Don't Die dot com.

50:11

Click on the store page and you can

50:14

also come visit me on the free

50:16

Sunday Gathering inspirational service

50:19

with medium demonstration included.

50:22

As I said in the beginning, I know life is

50:24

hard. I want to leave you with this quote

50:26

from Silverbirch. The seed

50:28

of truth cannot grow where the

50:30

heart is hard and the mind is

50:32

stony, but can flourish only

50:35

where there is a receptive soul, one

50:37

who is ready to receive truth and

50:39

to follow truth wherever she leads.

50:42

Before you are ready for truth to dwell

50:44

in your midst you must have endured

50:47

some of those experiences which

50:50

life provides in order to

50:52

make you ready for the truth. When

50:54

you had those experiences, you

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may have thought that life was bitter

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and harsh, unkind, that

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you were forgotten or lonely, or neglected,

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and fate had dealt you a very

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hard blow. But the soul

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grows through adversity and

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the pure gold emerges after

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the processes of crushing and

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refining have taken place. Remember

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the diamond takes a whole

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lot of time and pressure to

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become a gem. And remember

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the pearl, that bit of

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sand, the irritant that

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polishes one to be a beauty.

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My friend, you are never alone.

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You are loved. Now

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I have a request that you go

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do something nice for yourself or

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treat yourself to something.

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I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank

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you for listening to Shades

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of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio

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podcast Network.

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