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lovely humans. I'm wildly and you are listening to sex

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stories, a podcast where guests share their

1:03

personal expertise in the realm of human

1:05

connection, including sometimes hard ons so that

1:08

we may co create a healthier, happier

1:10

world and spread ripples of love together.

1:13

Our guest today is a 71

1:15

year old 36 year monogamously married physician,

1:18

sexologist and orgasm advocate

1:20

who will admit to being lustful and

1:22

a little kinky. A passionate

1:24

horse rider from Montana whose

1:26

occasional delusions that he is a

1:28

centaur led him to getting involved with sex

1:31

tech. He is the founder, CEO and inventor

1:33

of tech ring, the world's

1:35

first monitor of male sexual health, a

1:37

cock ring that provides life changing data

1:39

and increases pleasure by helping where's

1:41

assess their hard on health while they sleep, improving

1:44

confidence both in the bedroom and in

1:46

their lifestyle choices. And he is in

1:48

the process of publishing data that illustrates

1:51

that a ring is more effective than just

1:53

taking a pill for your hard on. He's

1:55

also the developer of the critique, which will

1:57

be coming out next year, the world's first

1:59

tracker. There's

4:01

really nothing. It was always in the

4:03

back of my mind. And I just

4:05

said I have this illusion that I'm a centaur. In

4:08

2015 I was on Trixie. She's

4:11

really my favorite quarter horse and she's kind

4:13

of like a living dirt bike. And

4:16

we were going recklessly fast on

4:18

a trail in Paradise Valley, next to the Valley

4:20

of the Over. By the way, Paradise really exists.

4:22

That's very much. There's

4:25

one in California too, but then it

4:28

burned down. Yeah,

4:30

it did burn down. You're right. So anyway, I

4:32

knocked a tree over with my chest and broke

4:34

six ribs and six vertebrae. And

4:37

that was very painful. But

4:41

fortunately, I performed something which I'll

4:43

share with your readers. You listen to it because

4:45

you say they're mostly men. It's called the cock

4:47

up sign. I've been trying to promulgate

4:50

in medicine since the 1980s, unsuccessfully. But

4:54

what does it mean to have a cock up sign? It works for

4:56

men and women. If you think your spinal cord is in because you've

4:58

been in a car accident, you're skiing or biking, you

5:00

can cock up your big toe. You'll

5:03

be able to defecate, urinate and fornicate the

5:05

big three. So I was in a

5:07

lot of pain. My back was broken. But I knew my spinal

5:09

cord was intact. And it got me

5:11

thinking what's been done to rehabilitate men

5:13

or women for that matter

5:15

who suffer spinal injuries, rehabilitate the sexual

5:18

health. And

5:20

there were five

5:23

or six papers in the medical literature. And it

5:25

is striking to me that we call it the

5:27

medical literature of the research because a

5:30

lot of it is fiction as we all know after COVID. Anyway,

5:32

there were these five or six papers and

5:35

they involved most of them involved in collecting

5:37

electrode called neuromodulation by the cavitis nerve,

5:39

everyone's favorite nerve that no one's heard about. So

5:41

the paradigm for neuromodulation is

5:44

cardiac pacemaking. And what we all

5:46

know about cardiac pacemakers, we in medicine

5:48

have been able to pace the heart, an

5:50

injured heart, since the 50s. So

5:53

I thought, what would be profound if we could

5:55

actually pace human sexuality? Think about the benefits

5:57

for an aging population. If

5:59

you could do. that. Think about the benefits of people who are

6:01

disabled. So

6:03

this became a personal science project.

6:05

So I got two Rams in

6:08

a lab in California. And

6:10

Ramy Men's Sheep, and we are male sheep. And we

6:13

placed an electrode by their cavernous nerve

6:15

and by the pudendal nerve. And

6:17

we got erection and

6:19

ejaculation. But we also got defecation,

6:22

urination. So it wasn't exactly bedroom

6:24

friendly. So I was looking for a broader application. So

6:26

I gave it up. I called the project over obvious

6:29

reasons. I didn't publish it because no one publishes

6:31

negative studies. So I've been on background emergency medicine

6:33

doctor and I'm sure of a heart attack or stroke.

6:37

There are a few emergencies that concern a man as much as a limp dick.

6:39

Maybe one of the concerns of even more

6:41

than a heart attack. And I left emergency medicine

6:43

in 2015 to do medical

6:48

technology, especially remote patient management. I

6:50

was interested in what, how can people

6:52

take care of themselves at home as

6:55

comprehensively as possible without

6:57

secondary gain of money that motivates

7:00

physicians in their practices. Yes. And there's another

7:03

doctor I

7:07

was working with on a project for

7:09

managing people after stroke. And I was looking at the doctor and he

7:11

was on a ski lift with another

7:13

doctor who's a urologist, Dr. James Hoteling is now my chief medical

7:15

officer. And he told him about this eccentric

7:17

doctor in Montana who tried to neuromodulate

7:19

erections and maybe he could help him with his project.

7:22

So was his project.

7:25

He wanted to count the number of

7:27

nocturnal erections that men have while they're sleeping. And

7:31

I thought, what the fuck for? What are we going to do? And he

7:33

said, I'm going to do a medical medicine project. And I

7:35

said, I'm going to do a medical medicine project. And I

7:38

thought, what the fuck for? Why

7:41

do we care? And we'd

7:43

all know about morning wood and we'd laugh about it. But

7:46

why do we care? So he explained to me,

7:49

going back to medical literature, look at these papers

7:51

much better, that there were 10 to 12 papers

7:53

indicating that a man who has

7:57

declined nocturnal erections is

8:00

a risk for a high attack or a stroke.

8:02

It's predictive. Now, leading

8:04

indicator in medicine is a really strong statement.

8:08

We treat things in the basis of associations in medicine.

8:11

So high blood pressure doesn't predict that

8:13

you get a high attack or a stroke, but

8:15

it's associated strongly. But

8:18

if a man goes from phytonoxone or actually down

8:20

to one, that man has a cardiovascular problem or

8:22

medication side effect until proven otherwise. So

8:24

this really excited me. This was, this would be

8:27

like a sixth rival sign. And, and

8:31

also profoundly motivating one, because I don't know

8:33

whether he would have a small watch or a small ring, but many

8:35

men do many women do too. And what what

8:37

a man care more about how many steps they took yesterday, or

8:40

their dick, and that's, you know, the end the

8:42

answer is obvious, they care more about directions, probably

8:44

about anything else. So I,

8:46

so that, so that's

8:48

how I got involved in his idea was

8:52

to embed sensors into

8:54

a condom ring. And

8:56

I said, I think it's a good idea because condoms tear. And

9:00

also, why let's not limit ourselves

9:02

to nocturnal erections. Let's count all

9:05

erections. Because what men care more about

9:07

the rest of every night or the rest of all having

9:09

been having sex. So our device can

9:11

be worn during sex and

9:14

overnight. And it'll give people vital data

9:16

about the cardiovascular health medication

9:18

to take the impact of alcohol,

9:20

recreational drugs, diet,

9:23

supplements, exercise, something makes this

9:25

whole world of human sexuality,

9:27

and some of that's more

9:30

objective. Because we live in a

9:32

very fuzzy world. But you know, you know,

9:34

if I were to go to a car, I'm 71 years old, if

9:36

I would go to a cardiologist and tell

9:39

him that chest pain, and he

9:41

just felt my pulse, and

9:43

gave me some digoxin, I would think, what

9:46

the fuck is 1900? I want to see the

9:48

angiogram, one blood test, I want to call it

9:50

around like a stress test to roll those things

9:52

are normal. And that's where urologists are

9:54

about male sexuality and family with gynecologists. They just

9:56

have a problem. Take

9:59

a pill. The pill doesn't work. Well,

10:01

you know, you're getting older, blah, blah, blah, you know,

10:03

or, you know, maybe, maybe it's the

10:05

relationship, blah, blah, blah. They don't have a

10:07

way of actually justly assessing anything.

10:10

And so, so a

10:12

man or woman could have

10:15

a gynecologist, they can wave

10:17

a doppler, not a machine over the penis of

10:19

the clearest in the office. But people

10:21

want to know what's going on at home. Yeah, it's

10:24

a completely different circumstance. I

10:26

know when I go to a urologist and a

10:30

male nurse with hair in the back of his hand applies

10:33

cold gel to my penis and then

10:35

ultrasound probe follows, I ain't getting

10:37

turned on. It's not not at

10:39

all like what's happened, but you know what's happening. So our

10:42

devices are all meant to be used at home in

10:44

privacy. And people can do with that data what they

10:46

want. Now, I can't legally

10:48

claim that our devices are diagnostic,

10:50

but they are profoundly viable diagnostic

10:53

aid. I have so many

10:55

questions for you. Where should I start?

10:58

I would like to hear first, you mentioned,

11:00

you know, kind of the average number of

11:02

nocturnal erections that is quote unquote in the

11:04

normal range. It sounds like it's five ish

11:06

and it sounds like three to five. Okay.

11:09

Okay. And so this wearable device, people can

11:11

wear it at night or penis owners can

11:13

wear it at night. Can you

11:15

describe a little bit about what

11:18

it feels like the unique design,

11:20

which I think is super fucking

11:22

cool. And then size wise, does

11:24

it fit all penises? Because I hear from a

11:26

lot of people who are concerned that they're too

11:28

small or too large or too medium. And so

11:30

I would just, can you dress some of those

11:32

things for us and just give us some specifics.

11:35

Yeah. Let me start with the first statement. I

11:37

don't really like the phrase penis owner. I know it's

11:39

quite on, but my wife owns my penis. I don't

11:41

know. And that

11:43

gets to my next question, but okay.

11:45

Sure. I was born with people. It's not bad.

11:47

I like born or whatever. I'm

11:52

just joking. And I know why it's why that

11:54

phrase is used, but it

11:56

always makes me laugh when I hear it because I hear

11:59

from my wife. pretty much every night that she owns my penis.

12:02

It's hot. It's hot. And that's how

12:04

it should be. So

12:06

the, how does it feel? Most

12:09

cockroaches are made out of hard silicone. They're

12:12

uncomfortable. Silicone is an irritating material

12:14

to the skin. And women know this,

12:16

they want, I can't tell

12:18

from how busty you are, but women who wear

12:21

bras that they really need, their

12:24

skin irritates them afterwards. I don't like

12:27

wearing bras. But if I don't

12:29

wear a bra, then I get the sweat underneath. So it's, you know,

12:31

trade off. Right. Well,

12:33

what most, I would say that probably half of

12:35

the heterosexual sex in committed relationship or

12:37

marriage starts when a guy is scratching his wife's back

12:39

at night when she takes off a bra. And that's

12:41

actually how I got the idea for this. Cause

12:44

this closes with a hook. A

12:47

bra opens the close of the hook. Women don't put on bras over

12:49

their head. They open the close of the hooks. It's

12:51

easy on, easy off. So our cockroaches are

12:53

not made out of hard silicone. They're made out

12:55

of very soft elastinum. Yeah.

12:58

Problem with cockroaches are the made of silicone, they're

13:01

uncomfortable. You have to have an erection, full erection,

13:03

really, sometimes the most effective because it's a choke

13:05

hold in the penis. It's cutting off the arterial

13:07

circulation. And who wants to choke their dick? No

13:10

one. And then after they come, then it's like, I

13:12

got to get it off now, especially if it's vibrating. It's

13:15

like, fuck, fuck. You've been, you're

13:17

experienced then because you want it

13:20

off. A man wants it off right away. My wife needs a

13:22

laugh at me. Do a little dance by the side of the

13:24

bed, trying to dig my fingers and snap off. I'm

13:26

the helper. I got you, babe. But like, if

13:28

I'm not, because I really like them. And I've

13:30

had, okay, can I tell you a little cocking

13:33

story? Sure, go ahead. The first

13:35

time I was so excited because I'm a

13:37

high sensation seeker and I love novelty and

13:39

I love devices, you know, I love things

13:41

like this. I'm a camera

13:44

nerd, et cetera, but I got

13:46

a vibrating cock ring and I was so excited because I was going

13:48

on a date with a guy who was pretty open-minded and I brought

13:50

him over and I was like, here, look at my new toy. And

13:52

I had it on this shelf that

13:54

also had my grandfather's ashes in a jar.

13:57

And so I broke his jar

13:59

of ashes. reaching for the vibrating cock ring the

14:01

first time I ever went to use it. And we did not

14:03

end up using it that night because then I felt weird and

14:05

there was a whole, you know, but so that is what that

14:07

is now what I associate with vibrating cock rings. But

14:10

then when we did eventually use it, you know, it's

14:12

the kind where like the little vibrator is on top.

14:14

And for him, I was like, well, I want it

14:16

this direction because I want you to hit my parts.

14:18

And I really, really, really liked it. But

14:20

he was like, I tried it. I

14:22

never want to do it again because of the

14:24

experience was just so difficult. Yeah. And

14:27

I'll share with you the one that was a two type. So

14:30

our cock rings is designed to

14:33

not block the arterial flow in like the only

14:35

constraint is being returned. So our cock rings are

14:37

going for hours. So who wants to

14:39

have sex for 20, 30 minutes and men who have diabetes

14:41

or hypertension, for them to

14:43

put cock ring on for 20 minutes, it could actually

14:45

endanger the circulation of the penis. So in

14:47

order to come up with a way to count the number of nocturnal reactions,

14:49

I had to reinvent the cock ring so that it could be worn overnight.

14:54

And then once I put the

14:56

hook in it and it

14:58

goes in the loop like that, yeah,

15:00

that means it can be tightened. So

15:03

if I put it around the balls too, right?

15:05

Okay. Let's always watch

15:08

the camera. That's

15:10

me, of course. And just

15:13

the balls drop in. Yeah. And

15:17

you then you hook it and there

15:19

it is. Okay. Oof.

15:22

Yeah. And that's a vibrating option

15:24

too, right? Because I like to know. The vibrating,

15:26

this does not vibrate. No, but

15:28

it has a companion piece. Sorry. Yeah.

15:31

I'm asking too many questions ahead of time. Yeah. No,

15:34

so that's okay. No. What's in

15:36

here? There's a computer chip for the

15:38

data. There's a battery and there's a Bluetooth antenna. Now

15:40

the Bluetooth is, what's on the body, the Bluetooth is

15:42

off because there are people concerned about the radiation or

15:44

the phone has a lot more fucking radiation. I know.

15:47

Yeah. You know what? And you keep it in

15:49

your pocket? Right. So we respect that.

15:52

Yeah. It's also because the box is a little bit raised. We

15:55

have quite a few women who report they like it because it's covered with

15:57

a soft estimate or a little bit of lube. As

16:00

women get older, rubbing

16:02

clit on pubic bone is not as sexy

16:05

at age 40 or 50 or 60 or

16:07

70 as it is when you're young. So that's

16:09

how it's used. We're already adding a vibrator. It's coming out

16:11

in August. It's called a duet. And

16:13

it slides on and off the ring. Now,

16:16

the vibrator you described earlier, for most

16:18

women, the vibrator is in the wrong position because the clitoris,

16:20

the clitoris is on average 3.5 centimeters away from the base

16:23

of the dorsal penis. So

16:26

having to have a vibrator in the ring itself

16:28

or very close to the ring itself, it's in

16:30

the wrong space. Yeah. Or you have to

16:32

squish them and find the angle and then it's only grinding and

16:34

they want to do more thrusting and it's like, uh, yeah, it's

16:36

probably. Yeah, it's not what I wanted.

16:39

And I'm like, ideally the woman's on top and is

16:41

in control in order to use the device effectively. So

16:44

my wife and I are playing around

16:46

with the duet vibrator. It

16:49

was most effective when she was on top because to your

16:51

point, if I'm on top, she doesn't necessarily get

16:53

the sensation that she wants and guys need to

16:55

be a little bit smarter about that, but

16:58

they're not. So it's easy to put the woman on top. Sure.

17:01

Sure. Well, a cock ring can't address

17:04

the emotional elements of a human connection,

17:06

but that's a different question I want to ask

17:08

you about. But

17:10

the ring, our vibrator can be slid on

17:12

and off. Once we open up cock

17:15

ring, we now can

17:17

slide things on and off it. I

17:20

love that. So that's kind of cool.

17:22

I've used for masturbating. My wife

17:24

has as well too. It can be used solo. It

17:26

can be used with non-penetrated sex with a partner

17:28

or it can be used for, you

17:30

know, you know, for penetrative sex. If that's what one

17:32

desires. So our rings

17:34

are soft, comfortable. They can be worn from long,

17:37

long protracted periods of time. And

17:40

I speak to our customers and I

17:42

know for myself, it's changed the

17:45

way in which we make love because a ring

17:48

makes a man and his partner

17:50

more confident because the ring

17:52

keeps the man hard. It's the most common

17:54

male problem is if you can't, I guess if you

17:56

can't attain erection, you can see a doctor. Most men's

17:58

problems, they can't sustain erection. if they have a problem. And

18:01

that could be you're with someone new and you're

18:03

anxious. Or it could be that you've

18:05

been drinking. Or, hey, maybe you smoked too

18:07

much pot. Or it could be

18:09

the disease is diabetes, hypertension, it could be due to

18:12

medications as well too. So if you have a ring

18:14

on, it doesn't block that airflow. And as blood goes

18:16

in, the ring holds it in

18:18

place. It

18:21

addresses issues of distraction. So

18:24

when I came up, my wife,

18:26

the first time I came up with this form

18:29

of the ring, my wife from Middlesex told me

18:31

I left the garage door open in

18:33

February in Montana. Well, even the most liberated

18:35

woman is not going to jump out of bed and be the

18:37

one to close the garage door. It's got an answer. I

18:40

would, but I'm the submissive and I want to do all the

18:42

extra service. So that's the story. I'd be

18:44

like, I got it, babe. And

18:46

I left it open on purpose. Now get that closed. So

18:50

I went downstairs and closed it. And when

18:52

I came back up, she kind of left

18:54

us. Ordinarily, I would have been

18:56

irritated. Like what the fuck? I

18:58

can't hold off that thought for a few minutes and while

19:00

we're having sex. I

19:03

came back upstairs, I had an erection. I didn't care. I

19:05

know. I'm a talker and

19:07

I have to learn when to shut the fuck

19:10

up. And I didn't realize how much it bothers

19:12

people's erections. I also am a person where I'm

19:14

like, it's my toy. I like it

19:16

when it goes soft and then I can make it hard and I get

19:18

to play with it. But

19:21

truly through talking to so many dudes

19:23

I hear from over all of these

19:25

years, the number one concern and even

19:27

with my partners in my private life

19:29

are, can I stay hard? Will I

19:31

stay hard? Will I, will I, will I? You know, when

19:33

I have many friends who are sex workers

19:35

and work in the brothels and the legal brothels

19:37

in the full service industry and they say that

19:40

so many dudes go there and they get so

19:42

nervous. And so

19:44

I imagine that also like in addition to

19:46

having literal data that can tell you about

19:48

your like lifestyle choices and maybe you need,

19:51

maybe everyone needs to not eat processed foods,

19:53

you know, that do or don't affect your

19:55

blood flow. I

19:57

imagine that it's also like a psychological.

20:00

component to having that support, right? But

20:02

then you also have the literal blood flow

20:04

support, right? It's a con, it's

20:06

a profound confidence builder. And we make love twice

20:09

as long as

20:11

we used to. Why? Because previously, there's

20:13

a certain rush to, hey, we're both, you know, both

20:15

turned on, let's come. If you know

20:17

that you're gonna, that you're gonna stay hard for 30 to

20:19

45 minutes comfortably, even

20:21

longer sometimes. Well, suddenly, a lot

20:23

of our, a lot of our lovemaking, and I hear this

20:26

from our customers, from many of our customers too, a lot

20:28

of our lovemaking is more

20:30

indirect, pleasurable, but not, you

20:32

know, but but not focused on the penis and the

20:34

clitoris. It's more indirect because she knows

20:36

I'm gonna stay hard. So she, she will actually, you

20:39

know, again, there's not this rush to orgasm, hey,

20:41

go suck on my clit, go fuck me hard.

20:43

It's more like, hey, I'll take a little bit

20:45

out a little bit this change positions. Let's

20:48

talk for a moment. Let's you know, and

20:51

then let's get back to it and then

20:53

it's cycle. You know, it's, I'll

20:55

put it this way. It's more romantic. It's

20:57

more intimate. Yeah. And instead of like stuffing

20:59

all the food in your face, you get to actually

21:01

like enjoy the spread of the entire clinic and take

21:03

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21:05

never concerned about my partner's hard ons, but I

21:07

know that they are. And I also see this

21:10

dance between like, I don't want to come too

21:12

fast. I don't want to come too late. And

21:14

then when they're worrying about that, and then they

21:16

don't come at all. And it's like, because they

21:18

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22:28

jump back to the question about size, because I know,

22:30

you know, like, I imagine there's like a lower size

22:33

limit and maybe an upper size limit. Well,

22:35

we recommend the performance. Well, I'll put this one. Let's start with

22:37

the check ring. Which is this

22:39

ring? Yeah. How many

22:41

men are bigger than

22:43

this? Hopefully not too many, if I want to fit them in. Those

22:47

guys aren't getting anyone. So the check

22:49

ring is really one size fits all. Now,

22:52

if men are really, really large, the elastomer

22:54

can't stretch and will tear. The elastomer

22:56

usually will last four to six months. And when

22:58

we sell the check ring, we give people two

23:00

sleeves. So if it does tear, they can have

23:02

another one. We have

23:04

had a couple of men who are really big,

23:07

who we tore in four

23:09

to six weeks. But you know, most men

23:11

aren't really big. Most men are average. So, you

23:14

know, we have men who are really

23:17

big who use it. And

23:19

we have men who are kind of average to say, no, I'm too big

23:21

for that. So

23:24

it's largely one size fits all. With a non-tech

23:26

ring, we make two of them. One is performance

23:28

ring. Oh, and by the way, I've been making

23:30

this point. It can be

23:32

made larger. So because

23:34

by sliding through the loop,

23:37

you can make it longer on one side and tighter on

23:39

the other. So when I'm having sex with

23:41

a tech ring, I tighten it up around the shaft

23:43

because I want that effect.

23:47

And then when I go to bed, I just loose it up around the shaft so

23:49

it's comfortable all night. Awesome.

23:51

That's so awesome. So, you know, most men

23:53

sleep naked. I used to have things in

23:55

their body, unlike women. So we have

23:57

that men who said it takes a little bit of time to get. get

24:00

used to. For me, the first couple of nights,

24:03

I was aware of it and now I wake up with it. I'm

24:05

not even aware of it. And if it does get uncomfortable in the

24:07

middle of the night, and I say uncomfortable, I mean annoying

24:09

because it's not like a needle in your

24:12

body. It's kind of like a woman's

24:14

wearing a bra. You know, all the around women adjust

24:16

their bras because they want to settle it into the

24:18

skin because it's just trying to annoy the skin. That's

24:20

just made out of elastic. It's the same thing too.

24:22

Sometimes the middle night, four o'clock in the morning, it's

24:24

like, okay, you just unhook it, rehook it and put

24:27

it back on again, go back to bed. We have

24:29

had one woman tell me that the

24:31

only way to persuade her husband to put it on overnight

24:34

was with a blowjob. She didn't blowjob, he

24:36

fell asleep. And then, like

24:39

five o'clock in the morning, like, what's this thing on me? And

24:41

then, oh, well, I guess it's not

24:43

that bad. I

24:45

love that. That's a great care. I mean, I know,

24:48

because I hear from so many of them, I

24:50

know that a lot of people in long term

24:52

relationships stop receiving blowjobs. I would invite them to,

24:54

you know, maybe do some connection

24:56

communication there. But I

24:59

am curious if there is

25:01

a lower limit. Like, are there micro penises? Like, can

25:04

you get around? So we saw 12,000 devices

25:07

so far, about 12,000. And

25:09

we have had two men return them because

25:12

they were too small. Okay. So there was

25:14

a guy who had three inch penis. Yeah.

25:18

That's really an outlier. And then there was, that seems

25:20

doable. I'm thinking more of like the true nubs that

25:22

are almost like a big clip. Three inches, I feel

25:24

I could still fit it. Huh? Maybe

25:27

if I were there. Okay. Okay. Especially

25:31

if the people device on with lubus, they often do it

25:33

just slips off. Right. That makes

25:35

sense. Okay. So my

25:37

wife is Mike gesture here. We've

25:39

had men who are really fat. And

25:42

then the penises kind of attract and disappear.

25:44

It's a fat pain. I know. And I

25:46

forgot about that. We've had a couple

25:48

of those. And it's it's it doesn't nothing

25:51

really works for them. They need they have they have a

25:53

mysterious medical problem. We've had some

25:55

couple of two people after prostate surgery,

25:58

multiple prostate, most prostate procedures. whose

26:00

testicles get to be so small. This wraps

26:02

around the testicles too as well. Because

26:04

we don't want to have emotional artifacts from the senses,

26:07

but also because we want to create a bra for

26:09

balls. We want the balls to be in one location

26:11

for pleasure. By holding the blood

26:13

into the testicles, the skin becomes more sensitive. And

26:16

what does a man or partner want with balls

26:19

during sex? Well, what happens without a ring,

26:21

they're up, they're down. Yeah, they're up, they're down. Here they are.

26:23

Where the fuck are they? Yeah, you guys keep

26:25

track of them. They move so much during

26:27

the arousal. It's one of my favorite things

26:29

too. I'm going to. Obviously

26:36

women address this, that larger breasts by wearing

26:38

something that holds them in place. Otherwise,

26:40

breasts would flop around different sexual positions

26:43

and be uncomfortable. And so the

26:45

ring, the rest on the balls

26:47

for pleasure and

26:49

for data. But we do

26:52

make another wrinkle of max PR is probably our fastest

26:54

seller. And that big men

26:56

can't use it because it's tighter. Okay. Because

26:59

because it's tighter, it was designed to increase the jack of

27:01

the toy phase by 50%. My jack

27:03

of the phase goes from four seconds to

27:05

seven seconds. And that is an incredible orgasm. I

27:08

don't have sex without this

27:12

device. This is the max performance rate

27:14

ever. Okay. Why? My wife likes it

27:17

too. I'm noisy, which my wife digs

27:19

because there's more of feeling of

27:21

power and satisfaction. Power life, it's not like it's

27:23

a lot of using that word. Effect

27:26

and satisfaction. It's not impactable.

27:30

It's an energetic sharing with the partner.

27:33

When I know what's happening, when I

27:35

have, the noises are so hot. And

27:37

if I'm in a place where I

27:39

get to feel their pulsation and that's

27:41

longer, that's fucking hot. Literally. Yeah. Yeah.

27:44

Well, I think my wife likes watching

27:48

it because it's so much too dramatic. I

27:50

come hotter and

27:53

with more fluid than before because it's actually being

27:55

held in a little bit and then suddenly explodes

27:57

out. Anyway, it's like The

28:00

data from the tech ring is really, really

28:02

valuable. But the sexual performance,

28:05

the maximum performance ring is profound. Although,

28:08

if a man really is bigger, if the guy is eight inches,

28:10

the guy has a significant growth, it's going to be too tight

28:12

for him. Right. And I recommend

28:15

he should. So we saw another device called the

28:17

performance ring that can be adjusted

28:20

for size, for men who are larger. I

28:22

would love if you could tell our suite

28:24

listeners about the role that

28:27

the urethra plays in an orgasm, in

28:29

pleasure. Well,

28:31

that's what you know, men have shit when it comes

28:33

to pleasure. Women have vibrators, men have nothing.

28:35

They have the strokeors. Oh, I see. Yeah,

28:39

no, men have women. Or men. That's

28:43

that. But it turns to devices in

28:45

it. But these strokeors, they saturate the

28:47

market. And no strokeors have really sold

28:49

more than 100,000 devices. Because

28:52

most guys, because the

28:55

hand, the man's masturbating, the brain-hand

28:57

connection is just more sensitive than

28:59

this mechanical machine. Now, I recognize

29:01

that if people are into S&M play, there's a

29:04

role for them. Yeah, different sensations. But no, wait,

29:06

I just want to think, because it's so funny that

29:08

you say that, because I was given some strokeors by

29:10

a company who makes them. And

29:13

three, five times, I've had partners come over, and I'm like, I

29:15

got this cool thing. I want to try it. I really, because

29:17

I just like novelty. I want to try different things on different

29:20

people. I want to try the same thing on every single person.

29:22

And they don't want to do it. They're

29:24

like, but I'd rather have your hands. I'd rather have your mouth. I'd

29:26

rather have it. And since that's on the table, I'm like, all right,

29:29

I'm going to have to just use it on one of my submissives.

29:32

But you're right. It's

29:34

not the same, unless someone is a toy

29:36

hobbyist or really just wants to get into

29:38

that world. Yeah. And

29:40

most people are. I

29:42

want to develop both technology and pleasure devices for

29:44

the majority, for the majority. Yeah.

29:48

So my thought was to put the

29:50

right amount of pressure over the urethra. And

29:52

so I tested it on 11 men, age 27 to 70. And

29:56

we hit 50% in terms

29:59

of elasticity. and grip with

30:01

the maximum performance. That's the device we made.

30:04

And it thrills me, frankly. I'm

30:08

not a sex worker, but it thrills me that a

30:10

couple times a week I hear from men saying,

30:14

well, I never used cockroaches before. And

30:17

this is amazing. I can't wait to use it with

30:19

my wife or boyfriend. And

30:21

that's really great

30:23

because these guys, because cockroaches have never,

30:26

you indicated before that most of your listeners

30:28

use cockroaches. But that's not the case in

30:30

the general population. Yeah.

30:32

I get to hear from the people who know that I

30:35

am particularly open-minded. And so they tell me about all their

30:37

toys and I love them. But I know when I'm just

30:40

meeting the average heteronormative dude

30:42

that he's just like, a what? Why would

30:44

I? And it's almost like an offense for

30:47

a little bit. That's milk pride. Yeah.

30:49

Well, and it's, yeah, some of the socialization maybe. And

30:51

maybe I think they're even just, once they get to

30:53

know me more, then they're like, but how does it

30:56

work? When you say pressure on

30:58

the urethra, do you mean the urethral opening? Do

31:00

you mean the whole internal shaft? I mean

31:02

on the shaft. On the whole shaft. Yes. The

31:05

tip of the urethra is sensitive, without

31:08

a doubt. But a

31:10

lot of men find it to be uncomfortable and they need

31:12

to get used to that kind of stimulation before they realize,

31:14

oh, it's great, especially

31:19

close to the end. But

31:21

just before you, best before you have an orgasm,

31:23

actually it's more sensitive. But I'm

31:26

talking about pressure on the shaft. Yeah.

31:28

Cool. Cool. And so for the tech ring, when

31:31

someone is wearing that to get like baselines and

31:33

data for their heart health or their kind of

31:35

overall health, how often do you recommend that they

31:37

wear it? And then like, what do they do

31:39

with that data? Well, I want to

31:42

say first that the ring, that the tech ring should be

31:44

one during sex as well too, in order to get data.

31:46

Okay. It's not just for wearing it at night. It's for

31:48

wearing. I'm having lots of

31:50

fantasies about data gathering. Exactly.

31:53

But it can even be used for

31:55

games vacation. That's

31:57

one of my next questions is how often have

31:59

you... heard because I'm having lots of fantasies

32:01

also about like ordering submissives to wear it at

32:03

night, reporting their numbers to me, bringing it into

32:05

a play session and seeing what they do with

32:07

you know, like, do you hear those stories from

32:10

people? Like I'm a sex stories nerd, so I

32:12

always want to know those things. You know,

32:14

I know that there was a gay

32:16

bachelor party in Las Vegas where they

32:18

bought six of them. And

32:21

they wanted to find out who spent the most time hard over the weekend.

32:26

That is such a boy thing. Oh

32:28

my god, that's hilarious. And now I'm like, I'll

32:31

do it with my submissives. Okay. Well,

32:33

you have a competition among them. Yeah.

32:37

But I'm not I don't like competitions. I want

32:39

everyone to be a winner. But it would be

32:41

data gathering. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay, so they use

32:44

this data to measure people to measure the impact

32:47

of diabetes, hypertension, that's gross

32:49

upon the social health. They can measure the

32:51

impact of the big cock killers, which are

32:53

antidepressants and anti hypertension. They can measure the

32:56

impact of relationships. You

32:59

know, it's one thing that I'm certain you've experienced

33:01

too is, and I did before I

33:03

got married, which is, why am I so

33:05

turned on with this person and not turned on by that

33:07

person? The whole reason this podcast exists. I was

33:09

like, why is it different with people? Yeah,

33:12

I mean, so you guys should quantify it though. You

33:15

can actually, and

33:17

then it kind of blows up kind of blow up

33:19

the whole supplement supplement industry, because there

33:23

are so many supplements that men take women to for the sexual

33:25

health, that claims

33:27

are made that they don't really work. And

33:30

supplements are barely regulated in

33:32

this country. Like you don't really have to be getting. Yeah, okay, there

33:34

you go. We

33:37

have we have found virtually no supplements, oral

33:39

supplements to be effective. Yeah. Any

33:41

of them. Now they can they can have placebo

33:43

effect on well aware of the placebo

33:45

effect. I mean, heck, I got guys I've described, Siles

33:49

or Viagra to and they tell me works if it's in

33:51

their wallet. Well, of

33:53

course it does. Because it's you make it major more confident

33:55

to have it. You now know that you have a problem

33:58

you can you can take it. But

34:00

that's the placebo effectually powerful. I need to

34:02

go into my medicine cabinet right now. I'm

34:04

taking seborrheic supplements. I only think

34:06

one of them makes a difference in the Mestvitamin D3.

34:08

And the rest of them are taking, well, you

34:12

hear an article, you hear a podcast, someone says something.

34:14

Next thing you know, you got medicine cabinet filled with

34:16

stuff. So

34:18

when it comes to sexual health, though, we

34:21

also have claims that are being

34:23

made for testosterone, shockwave therapy, P

34:26

shots, stem cell treatments. And

34:28

now men can take on these experimental treatments,

34:30

they can actually measure is it was it

34:32

real or not? What's really happening? Am

34:35

I getting older? Am I having more nocturnal erections?

34:37

Am I lasting longer? Yeah,

34:40

yeah. Well, and I would love to

34:42

hear a little bit about the research that you said

34:44

you're in the process of publishing that has to do

34:46

with you know, the blood flow, because I've been with

34:48

plenty of people that are like on Viagra or Cialis,

34:50

but that doesn't mean that they're calming their anxiety doesn't

34:53

mean that they're gonna have a better orgasm. It doesn't

34:55

mean that our connection is any better. In fact, sometimes

34:57

it makes it worse because then they're in a spiral

34:59

about like why is this working? So can

35:01

you speak a little bit about a lot of misconceptions about for

35:04

agro and Cialis, the PD five medications,

35:07

put more blood in the penis, but not

35:09

particularly good at keeping it there. So

35:11

in most men's part enough man can attain erection, put

35:14

him up blood and can be helpful. But if

35:16

man can attain an erection, put him up blood

35:18

and might help with these diabetes

35:20

hypertension just needs a little bit more. But

35:23

if the man is just anxious, the

35:26

problem is really not the PD five

35:28

medications can help a little bit, but they don't

35:30

keep the blood there. So ring a ring on the other hand

35:32

will keep the blood. Yes, like literally, I

35:35

the best solution I have

35:37

discovered for when a partner goes soft, is I'm like,

35:39

ha ha, my toy is soft now. And then I

35:41

turn my fingers into a cock ring. And I'm like,

35:43

perfect, perfect. And the more that I like like their

35:45

cock in whatever state it's in, and they start to

35:48

believe that I'm actually having fun. And then the head

35:50

stuff goes away. And then suddenly we're fucking and someone

35:52

who's much older than

35:54

you is having an orgasm for the first time

35:56

in decades, you know, so yeah. No, that's

35:59

great. And it's really it's

36:02

it's the greatest men's man's fear and it's

36:05

nice if I didn't have to hold on if I just had

36:07

one Look

36:11

we all men and women get

36:13

Venus leek as we get older So

36:16

I'm not what so Venus leek. So,

36:19

you know look If

36:21

I was 14 years old and you and I were holding hands

36:24

like I could just get hard for about an hour Maybe two,

36:26

you know if on the hand That

36:29

doesn't happen to me at age 71 anymore So,

36:31

you know, I end up getting erections with my wife

36:34

But I'll lose them a lot faster than when I was 50 or 40 or 30,

36:36

you know, etc And

36:38

this is no reflection on her. This

36:40

is the way it is. So her

36:43

ring compensates

36:45

for that the ring basically

36:48

Allow as the blood goes in the

36:50

blood stays there. So here's an example of

36:53

why this happens So, you know if I'm 71 years

36:55

old if I sit on a plane

36:57

for five six hours My ankles will so a little bit

36:59

my tight socks will get tight. My rings will get tight

37:01

on my fingers Why is that it's

37:04

because the muscles around my small veins are

37:06

weaker and my blood vessels are

37:08

weaker. It just happens It's just part of

37:10

aging and the impact on the clearest and

37:12

the penis is You get

37:14

turned on and you lose it faster So

37:17

what can you do to keep the blood in?

37:20

And what a man can do is different than

37:22

what what a woman can do women have vibrators

37:24

And then also a large anneen gel is

37:27

a very effective azo tide filer in women men have

37:29

shit Men men your men

37:31

need rooms Beyond rock hard

37:33

this cock ring hard Nothing is gonna help

37:35

men get harder stay harder longer than a

37:37

cock ring The problem with these conventional cottons

37:39

again is they can only be worn 15

37:41

or 20 minutes our rings can be

37:44

worn long enough I don't want to make love know

37:46

my wife won't make love for 10 15 minutes Then

37:48

you got that rush to orgasm. Okay, we're both turned on we got

37:52

As I'd like to make love for now.

37:54

Yeah, that's my best right now and I'd

37:56

rather be edged and so achieved And that

37:58

so that's a lot more Pleasure,

38:02

it's not more pleasural, it's also more

38:04

romantic and intimate. It's more bonding between

38:06

people. Who wants, you know, having

38:08

sex quickly because I'm hard, it's like, well,

38:11

it's not having a shot of booze. You

38:13

know, I, where's the meal? Follows it, but

38:15

deserve it too. So, with a

38:17

ring, my wife and I now make

38:19

love for longer, more confidently,

38:23

more indirectly, if you will, less

38:25

of, you know, and it's really been great for

38:27

us. I hear about that from my customers weekly,

38:30

from several people about the impact of

38:32

ring. But so many men don't

38:35

know it. And so many women don't know it either. They

38:37

think, especially, you know, whether they're

38:39

young and it's the first couple times with

38:42

a guy, they've got him hard to penetrate

38:44

or an older guy, he's hard. Let me

38:46

jump on him. I'll let him jump on

38:48

me. But the ring, so it changes that mindset to,

38:50

oh, he's hard and he's going to be hard for

38:52

the next half hour. Well, that's a whole other mindset.

38:54

Yeah. Yes. That's

38:56

a good point. And it truly wasn't until I

38:58

was listening to your interview with Cathy K on

39:00

Strictly Anonymous that I was like, oh,

39:03

I mean, I have so much compassion for

39:06

penis people because I know that there is this immense

39:08

amount of like, they're not good enough. They're too this,

39:10

they're too that. Like, people love to attack dudes in

39:12

all of these ways. But I'm like, oh,

39:14

right. I actually, even in six years

39:16

of interviewing people about their sex lives,

39:19

had not considered the

39:23

amount of fear of losing a hard on that goes

39:25

into the rushed elements of sex. Like I just didn't,

39:27

you know, and I have enough data points that I

39:29

could have made that story, but it wasn't until hearing

39:31

you guys talk that I was like, oh

39:33

shit. So what a game changer. What a game

39:35

changer. Well, I never thought about using

39:38

cockroaches and any regularity until I came up with this, because

39:40

they suck. They, you know,

39:45

they're not, they're novelties, not,

39:48

not a, well, I didn't like, I didn't like calling it an

39:50

eight. I liked to call it an enhancer. Yeah, I go, I

39:52

go like lube. I like lube no matter what.

39:54

You know, I like the way that it feels when it gets dripped

39:56

on me. And I know people are like, oh, I

39:58

want to be wet enough. And I'm like. No, it's

40:01

just a great part of my sex

40:03

life. It's a sensation creation What

40:06

vibrators really started being popularized in

40:08

70s or 80s? There

40:10

was a certain embarrassment associated with them. Oh, you have

40:12

to come through penetration It isn't you know, you can't

40:14

you should you know, it's a crutch and

40:16

then 50 years later 40 years later No,

40:19

they're they're the norm and frankly if I'm talking

40:21

to my customers, I'm not surprised by this and

40:24

certain don't want people to intercourse

40:26

is people in intercourse between a man and

40:28

a woman and Over

40:30

to a man and man for that matter is less of

40:32

the it's less of the end of the

40:34

game Yeah

40:37

for most people it's something people do in

40:39

between other things that they're doing Yeah,

40:42

yeah, no, that's so true And

40:45

that's and and these the urologist

40:47

the gynecologist and the general media don't

40:49

understand this. I mean you get this

40:51

whole, you know You

40:54

know, you see the porn but let's but but but

40:56

let's call the sort of Game of Thrones kind of

40:58

soft porn HBO soft porn, you know, it's

41:01

like I'm gonna oh I'm gonna

41:03

pick you up throw you around my waist Yeah

41:05

And wouldn't bang you against the wall or you're gonna climb

41:07

atop me and you're gonna ride me and we're both the

41:09

combat There is that that's not the real world. I'm not

41:12

that that's lousy sex to lousy

41:14

lazy Well, why should I watch

41:16

a Game of Thrones? You thought the sex

41:19

scenes people might have been attractive We thought

41:21

the sex is like that's not

41:23

do not the real world. It's

41:25

not it's not good My main goal

41:27

in life, which I don't know how far I'll

41:29

get but you know My background is as a

41:31

filmmaker I went to film school at USC and

41:34

I just want to create mainstream cinema with really

41:36

beautiful accurate like Creative connective sex

41:38

scenes, you know And maybe they have to be in

41:40

the special bits because I can't keep them all in

41:42

the main piece But like I agree

41:44

with you so so hardcore So

41:47

okay, so partners are using this together

41:49

and then once they

41:51

have the data Like how do you recommend

41:54

people use that data to examine

41:56

their health? Right.

41:58

Have you seen the data? like? I

42:01

have not. I'll show you. So

42:03

we're in the Google and Apple stores. There's

42:06

our icon from tech. Okay. This

42:08

is what the data looks like overnight.

42:12

Oh, squiggly. I love it. The

42:15

highest spikes directions. Yeah.

42:17

On this end, my wife and I have exacts and

42:19

that internal directions after it. So this is this is

42:21

normal. Okay. How can I use this though? Well,

42:23

if I was starting on a new anti

42:26

hypertension medication, I could say, well, what's the impact?

42:28

Let me get four. We recommend people get four

42:30

readings because it said

42:32

the sensors take neatly to adjust your

42:35

body and

42:37

get four readings that you can imagine the impact

42:39

of medication, a new relationship, a

42:42

drug, a supplement, the pine sexual performance. We

42:44

give people a one

42:46

to 10 scale with

42:48

anything above six being normal and

42:50

anything above nine, you're probably 25

42:53

years old. So it's really hard to be a 10

42:56

the old time. And

42:58

that scores based upon your number, nocturnal directions, how

43:00

long they last. And when you're having sex,

43:02

we want people to use a ring when having sex. When

43:05

you're having sex, how hard you get,

43:07

how long you last. Cool. Okay.

43:10

And so then they can make choices about

43:12

their life based on those data points. And

43:14

I know you can't prescribe anything, but like

43:16

it gives them actual tools to sort of

43:18

be like, Oh, what is my overall health

43:20

like, right? Because sexual health is a reflection

43:22

of overall health. Correct. We give

43:25

people notifications. Like Hey, Elliot,

43:27

your actions over the last month are half

43:29

as hard as they were on average beforehand.

43:32

Give us four more readings. And if they stay

43:34

low, you need to see you should seek a

43:36

doctor. Or it could be. Hey, Elliot.

43:41

My God, man, you're having twice as much sex

43:43

as you've ever had. You had last month way

43:45

to go something as good as change in your

43:47

life. Love

43:50

that. Okay. So on the note of people visiting

43:52

their doctors, I hear from a lot of people

43:54

that the sex related conversations

43:56

they have had with their doctors are

43:59

by and large a Like, can you

44:01

speak to, did you get any like sex as

44:03

a medical professional or like the personal parts are

44:06

kind of like, what do you notice in your

44:08

area? Because urology, you talk about this. To take

44:10

a sexual history, then we never do it because

44:12

there's no money. There's no box to check. And

44:15

we're embarrassed. Yeah, most doctors

44:17

remember our people, people,

44:20

and they're embarrassed. And they don't and most people

44:22

are embarrassed to talk about it. So we've

44:24

really let people down. We fail people in this area.

44:27

This sex is so profoundly important. Not only does the

44:29

sex reflect what's cardiovascular health, and not

44:31

only is sex a weather vane for

44:33

medication side effects, our

44:36

relationships are so and our self esteem reviles

44:38

reviles so much around our sexual performance. Yeah.

44:41

And we know that people who have sex

44:44

every day have half

44:46

the cortisol level stress stress hormone level of

44:49

people who don't. Damn. Is

44:52

that partnered sex? Do you know if the data is so low

44:54

or partner? Because I'm like, damn, that's the most compelling reason I've

44:56

heard to go get a regular partner in a while. It

44:58

was a mix. It was either. Okay.

45:02

And we know that people who are on

45:04

the terms of divorce, we know that

45:06

people have sex more twice a week have divorce

45:08

rate is 50% better than people who

45:10

don't. We know that people who have who are

45:13

over the age of 70, 75 men, in this case in the study,

45:16

have sex twice a week, significantly decreased

45:18

their cardiac risk. So it's

45:21

shameful that doctors don't ask people about

45:24

their sexual health because we ask

45:26

people about

45:29

alcohol, drugs, guns, and

45:31

you don't ask about their sex life. I mean,

45:33

maybe the reason why the person is drinking too much

45:36

is because their sex life sucks. Maybe

45:38

the reason why

45:40

they're doing too many drugs

45:42

is because they got a bad ass

45:44

partner who's making them do it. Maybe they shouldn't be that

45:47

person. We really should ask about

45:50

it and we don't. And

45:52

depression, I mean, I am in a unique bubble, right? Where

45:55

I hear from a lot of people who are suffering this

45:57

horrible depression loop because they're not getting and

46:00

they feel undesirable and then creates anxiety around the partners

46:02

and now there's a new wave of like Young

46:05

people are watching porn and porn means so many different

46:07

things and there's all these conflicting feelings about it And

46:09

then now they're with a real person for the first

46:11

time in years and they're you know Their animal bodies

46:13

are freaking out and so

46:15

I I would love to hear from you just

46:17

as kind of a brainstorm noodle like Don't

46:20

forget when it comes to porn women spend five

46:22

times as much time shopping as men

46:24

spend watching porn So what's the impact on

46:26

women? Minds of

46:28

all the shopping they do because they you know They

46:30

talk about porn the dopamine hits that meant that men

46:32

get in the brain because porn becomes addicting. Yeah I'm

46:36

amazed and I just you know women

46:39

used to like read a book now shop online

46:42

Interesting. Okay, so online shopping not shopping

46:44

for porn. Oh my god And

46:47

then you know And then there's the literal physical

46:49

side effect that I know of where guys are

46:52

getting blisters on their dicks like the way you

46:54

know Cuz they're and they're stroking so hard and

46:56

the sensation just continues to ramp up up up

46:58

because there's nothing They need more more than the heart

47:00

more my heart a sensation Yeah you know and

47:02

then porn gets a bad rep which it's like if

47:05

people could understand that it's like the Olympics and it's

47:07

Sex movies and it's a very specific

47:09

type of fantasy and not the everyday expectation

47:11

and I know you know some of my

47:13

lady friends have had virgins come

47:15

in and show them screenshots of the different positions

47:17

that they want to do and the different kind

47:19

of like and it's Like they're and it's their

47:22

first time and then they like get full of

47:24

panic because they're now with a real human and

47:26

one Of my lady friends who works at the

47:28

brothel had a client who was like Can

47:31

I go to the bathroom and watch some porn to

47:33

get hard like during their party together? And so I

47:35

was like, oh my god So in

47:38

your perfect world going back to the

47:40

sex education both for you know, both

47:42

for People at large but

47:44

also for the medical community like what would

47:47

your dream solution be like in a perfect world? Where

47:49

you get to design a set of like what do

47:51

you think we need? We are there are four papers

47:53

that have just got to the Publications we are looking at

47:56

Botox and right now this

47:58

function. We're looking at shockwave therapy We're

48:00

looking at many of the interventions. We want to

48:02

assess these things objectively. So

48:05

all the research is going to come out between now

48:07

and summer next year. They're

48:09

all just going to know about this. My

48:12

goal is that they will start treating

48:14

people objectively with their

48:17

section. So instead of, hey,

48:20

I've got AD. I

48:22

don't really want to talk

48:24

about it too much. Oh, we'll just take Viagra. It will be,

48:26

hey. You

48:28

wouldn't treat blood pressure without a blood

48:31

pressure cuff. You wouldn't treat a

48:33

cardiac arrhythmia without an electrocardiogram. I want

48:35

doctors to start getting people's data and

48:38

treat them on the pace of data.

48:41

Do you think that there is something else

48:43

needed for the social part of the shame?

48:45

You just went to a urology conference and

48:47

spoke there. It sounds like you're in a group

48:49

of other medical professionals who are able

48:51

to talk about these

48:53

things comfortably, maybe? Do you think that can- I

48:57

would say you're all just let open-minded. My

49:00

wife was in the booth and he's often

49:02

struck by the inhibition. Because

49:05

guys start talking about it, then the next

49:07

question might be, do I have a problem? Do you

49:10

have a problem? They just don't want to-

49:12

they don't- they don't- they don't- they-

49:14

and it's just, you know, getting back to other

49:16

parts of the conversation, people don't

49:18

want to talk about this area. They

49:22

want everything to be- I'm going to learn that the hard way

49:24

through this podcast. You know, I get hard on to all the

49:27

time, I have no problem whatsoever. You're like, yeah, sure. You know,

49:29

they don't- they don't- and the same thing with

49:31

women too. People just don't want

49:33

to talk about it. I mean, I-

49:37

I'm one- you

49:40

know, it- and I

49:42

think- I think that things are going to change in the

49:44

heterosexual side. It'll really be because women push

49:47

for it. I think- you

49:50

know, if a man introduces a

49:52

sex toy into a relationship, it

49:54

gets thrown in the garbage after it's used once. If

49:57

a woman introduces a sex toy into a relationship, it'll get used

49:59

a lot. a lot. So

50:04

if women are concerned about their men's health, they

50:08

will get men to get their data.

50:12

And if women want to make their men more

50:14

confident, put a ring on it. Yes.

50:20

If you like it, then you should have put a ring on it. Yeah. Fuck

50:22

yeah. I

50:25

also love the idea of a

50:27

practical, tangible feedback loop of like,

50:29

well, I've been running this week and now I see

50:31

the difference in my heart. I'm like, oh, I changed

50:33

my food habits. I changed my sleep or I started

50:35

meditating. I personally, when

50:37

I started doing the surgeon general recommendation

50:40

of 30 minutes of zone 2 cardio

50:43

five times a week, my

50:45

ability to like, because I used to be like, oh,

50:48

guys must get this special boost of energy. And

50:50

I haven't had as many lady lovers as I

50:52

would but now I'm like, I can be on

50:54

top as long as you need. Like I can

50:56

fuck you forever. Because I

50:58

introduced this small amount of

51:02

energy into my life. And so I

51:04

imagine that having the immediate feedback loop

51:06

of being able to concretely see those

51:08

data points could just lead to so

51:10

many layers of hotness. Well,

51:12

we know or health, we know that

51:14

people who have wearables, many

51:16

people develop positive relationship with

51:18

them. They're not they're wearable. It can be digital. Even

51:21

people have a digital scale watchable watch the weight more

51:23

than people who don't have one.

51:25

People have blood pressure cuff will use it. People

51:27

have a smartwatch or smart ring will access it.

51:29

And what do people care more

51:31

about the sexual data? How many

51:34

steps it took yesterday? I

51:36

mean, it's all related, but it's like, let's

51:38

play with the cocks. And on

51:40

that note, I would love to hear what you're developing

51:43

for clits because color me curious. I want some data.

51:46

Sure. Of course. Who's

51:49

hotter your cat? We'll be able to answer that question soon.

51:52

Basically, we're

51:55

the the Linus vibrator. Which

51:58

many suck by this I guess all Small

52:00

tens of thousands of them. It can measure people

52:02

who see these muscle contractions of orgasm.

52:04

But it can't be one doing penetrative sex and it

52:07

doesn't tell anything about the blood flow

52:09

in the clitoris. We're measuring blood flow in the

52:11

clitoris. Measuring the size of the

52:13

clitoris and it has been gorgeous and we're

52:15

measuring blood flow. We also measure PCG muscle

52:17

contractions. So women be able to use this

52:19

the way that men can use the male device. Women

52:23

have nocturnal throat erections and

52:26

they can count them now. They can

52:29

measure the impact of diseases, diet, medications,

52:31

etc. Women can use this device when

52:34

they're having sex. Some

52:38

of the male device. They can use it to say, well,

52:40

this is blood pressure, what's the impact of this? I'm

52:44

taking hormones. What's the impact of this hormone? You'll

52:46

be able to titrate the doses more effectively to

52:48

have less of an effect upon the sexual health.

52:53

How is it designed? How would

52:55

it fit on me? Does it have legs? Is

52:57

it like panties? Does it go inside

52:59

and clip on? It goes inside of you and outside. The

53:02

component inside sits behind the pubic symphus'

53:04

bone. It sits by

53:07

the G-spot. That's irrelevant, but

53:09

that's where it sits because that's where the bone turns

53:11

in. Inside

53:15

a woman, it's shaped like this. It's

53:17

C-shaped. But

53:20

the component inside spreads

53:22

out because we don't want it slipping out. Then

53:26

there are senses over the clitoris that

53:28

measure blood flow. Well, not directly over,

53:31

alongside of the clitoris that measure

53:33

blood flow, pulse amplitude, and

53:35

size. That's so cool. That's

53:38

a nighttime device, not? Or could

53:40

you wear it while penetration? No, it's just you wear it while

53:42

penetration. You have

53:44

prototypes? Do you need volunteers to help you

53:46

study it? The

53:49

prototype is clunky. Your prototype can't be worn during

53:51

sex. You

53:53

can wear it while masturbating. We have prototypes, but

53:56

the sensors that we use...