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Due. To the graphic nature of
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this crime, listener discretion is
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advised. This episode includes discussions
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of murder, violence, sexual abuse,
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and suicide. We advise extreme
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caution for children under thirteen.
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Almost sixty five years ago,
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a heinous crime ended the
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lives of for people and
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change the true crime genre
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forever. In this bonus episode
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of Serial Killers we detail
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a true story captured in
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family murders committed by
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dig Let's
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go back to the highways of Kansas on
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November 14, 1959. 28-year-old
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Richard Hickok
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drove his black 49
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Chevrolet straight to the clutter home in Holcomb. A
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former cellmate told him Herbert Clutter kept a
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safe full of valuables hidden in his
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house. Dick
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enlisted his prison buddy, 31-year-old Perry Smith, to help
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him nab the cash. Dick
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was intrigued by Perry. He seemed
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quiet and sensitive, but
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Perry swore he'd once murdered a man
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with a chain. Dick hoped
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Perry still had ice in his veins because he didn't intend on
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leaving any witnesses alive in
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the clutter house. While
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Dick drove, Perry idly played his guitar. After
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they secured the safe, the two were
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supposed to head down to Mexico. Perry couldn't
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wait to swim in the ocean and chase women. Dick,
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on the other hand, was only focused on the task ahead. In
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his words, he was in it to splatter the walls with
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hair. The
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Clutter household was asleep when Dick
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and Perry arrived at midnight. They
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let themselves in through an unlocked
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door armed with a knife and
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a single 12-gauge shotgun. Using
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a flashlight, they searched the office downstairs.
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There was no sign of the safe. The
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men went upstairs to wake 48-year-old
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Herbert at knife point. Dick
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demanded to know where the safe was,
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but Herbert swore he had no idea
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what Dick was talking about. Next
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up was Herbert's wife, 45-year-old
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Bonnie, who also claimed
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the family didn't have any secret
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safe. Perry could tell they
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were telling the truth, but Dick
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was still stubborn. He insisted
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on turning the house upside down. down.
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But before they could search for the
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money, they needed to account for every
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member of the family. The
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men tied up 15-year-old Kenyon
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at his sister's 16-year-old Nancy.
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Dick told Perry he was going
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to rape Nancy before they left,
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but something in Perry changed. He
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suddenly became frustrated and
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confrontational. He refused to let Dick
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do that to Nancy. Yet he
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had no problem helping Dick murder
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the entire family before they left.
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Once it was all over, Perry
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considered killing Dick too and putting
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the entire night behind him. Instead,
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the two men got back in the
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car together and drove off. Their
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entire haul was one radio, a
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pair of binoculars, and between $40 and
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$50. The
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next morning, members of the Holcomb
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Church noted Herbert Clutter's absence during
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the morning services. When
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Susan Kidwell arrived at the home,
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she could tell something was horribly
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wrong. It was far
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too quiet. She went inside
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and discovered Nancy's body. Shock
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and terror spread throughout the
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Lonesome town and soon to
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the entire country. The
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public demanded justice for such a
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gruesome crime. On
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November 14, 1959,
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Dick Hickok and Perry Smith murdered
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four members of the Clutter family
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in their home. Afterward,
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the murderers headed to Kansas
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City before rejoining later to
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drive straight for Mexico. Sometime
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that fall, a prisoner named Floyd
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Wells heard about the Clutter murders
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and realized his old cellmate Dick
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must have been involved. Floyd
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was the inmate who told Dick about Herbert
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Clutter in the first place. He'd
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given Dick the layout of the
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Clutter home, along with a tall
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tale about the non-existent safe. He
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told authorities he had information about
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the murders, which eventually reached 47-year-old
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officer Alvin Dewey. Alvin
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and Herbert Clutter had been friends. Now
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Alvin was leading the investigation into
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the murders. When he
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heard about Floyd's tip, he agreed that
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Dick and his former prison buddy Perry
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made excellent suspects. He
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withheld their names from the public, hoping
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that the two men would slip up if
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they thought they'd gotten away clean. On
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December 30, 1959, Alvin finally got the call
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he'd been waiting for. Las
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Vegas police tracked a stolen
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vehicle's license plate and arrested
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Dick and Perry. The
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killers were driving back to Kansas City when
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the cops picked them up. Both
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had concocted an alibi for the night of
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the home invasion, claiming they were in a
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cabin with two sex workers. When
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police hinted that they had a witness who
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said otherwise, Dick realized Floyd
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had ratted him out. He
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admitted the alibi was made up
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and claimed Perry had murdered all
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four of the victims. Perry
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meanwhile blamed Dick for the entire
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scheme at first. But
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not long afterward, he changed his
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confession and said that he had
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actually murdered all four Clutters.
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He claimed he took the blame to
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spare Dick's mother the heartache. Then
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everything changed again. Before
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their trial began, Perry
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had an unlikely visitor,
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35-year-old writer Truman Capote.
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Capote had read about the crime in the New
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York Times and found the case intriguing.
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Despite His big city attitude and recent success
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in fiction, He said that he had been.
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For the high Plains of Kansas to cover
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the. Story. To assist
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him with interviews and research, he
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enlisted his childhood. Friend: Thirty three
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year old Harper Lee. Well.
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Capote sometimes came off as smog.
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Lee was grounded and friendly.
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She was instrumental in securing interviews
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and helped for Poti with
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the writings. Li also got to
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Poti close to lead investigator
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Alvin Do We. To.
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Podium bet it himself into the
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case. Covering the events as they
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unfolded Capote, he decided that he
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needed to get to know the
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killers to understand the reasons behind
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the senseless violence. While. Dick
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remained standoffish and distance. Harry opened
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up to the right earth,
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revealing deep truths about himself and
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the night of the murders. In.
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Court Perry and Dick were.
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Both found guilty and sentenced
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to death. while Dick maintained
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is tough exterior, During his
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time on death Row, Perry was
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plagued with guilt. He started to
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miss Dick. The two. Men
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tried to have their convictions
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repealed, but without any success.
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On April Fourteenth, Nineteen Sixty
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five, Dick and Harry were
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set to hang. Harper
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Lee and Co Poti were
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invited me declined to show.
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Both Dick and Harry had made
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peace with each other and their
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seats dig even shook albums hand
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before he was hanged. Perry.
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Was next who awkwardly apologized for
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what he'd done. According to at
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least one account Capote, he grew
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six from the demonstrations. He and
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Perry had grown close over there,
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years of interviewing and correspondence. They
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had more in common than. He
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expected. Perry's.
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Das deeply wounded
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Cody. Capote,
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His seminal book. Cold Blood
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was published in Nineteen Sixty
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Six. The so called non
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fiction novel was an immediate
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sensation. Although he dedicated the
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book to Harper Lee, he
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didn't acknowledge her health and.
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It's creation. the text
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elevated true. Crime into a
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popular and artistic genre. For
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couple the the story was
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an exploration of the complex
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human drama surrounding of violent
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act. It wasn't a tale
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of bad men hurting innocent
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people, but how for shotgun.
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Blasts ended Six
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Minds. Thanks.
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This episode was written by
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Daniel William Gonzalez with writing.
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Assistance by Terrell Wells, fact
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checked by Cheyenne Lopez and
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sound design by Alex. Buttons
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are head of programming. Is Julian.
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Burrow are had a production. Is
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Nick Johnson and Spencer. Howard is
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our post production supervisor. I'm
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your host Vanessa Richardson.
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