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Amanda's journey so far has
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been more than four years long, with
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more than four cancer relapses. Most
0:09
people were as supportive as they could
0:11
be, donating gift cards, classes,
0:14
time, babysitting, tips,
0:16
and cold hard cash. But
0:19
not everyone was on board the Support Amanda
0:21
train. You really learn
0:23
who's there for you when you have nothing else to give. Although
0:26
it hurt when some friends and even family
0:29
haven't really shown support, the
0:31
amount of people
0:32
following and back my story
0:34
is something I couldn't have even fathomed before
0:36
cancer. Thank you. You
0:39
are hashtag Team Amanda. Amanda's
0:42
blogs had gotten into the head of investigative
0:44
producer Nancy,
0:46
and she just couldn't let it go, even
0:49
as those close to her became concerned about
0:51
how obsessed she was. Nancy
0:53
wasn't the only one who was suspicious, though.
0:56
Detective Martinez of San Jose Police
0:59
joined the slowly growing Team Nancy.
1:02
I was talking to Amanda. Her
1:05
response was not consistent
1:07
with what was happening. It
1:09
was fake concern, like, oh my God,
1:12
are the kids
1:13
going to make it to school? Okay. Amanda
1:17
had found out about Nancy, and
1:19
she wasn't going to let some faceless investigative
1:22
producer ruin her life from the comfort
1:24
of a laptop. I was getting the mail out of my
1:26
mailbox, and I opened it up, and it's just
1:29
stuffed with paper.
1:30
I'm looking through it, and I'm like, what
1:32
is this? And I see the name Amanda
1:35
Riley. I see Nancy Muscatello.
1:37
I'm like, what is this? I
1:40
see restraining order, civil
1:42
harassment, and my mind is
1:44
catching up to what I'm reading and putting it together
1:46
like, oh my God. She was taking
1:48
me to court for a restraining
1:51
order. Amanda had some good
1:53
news. She was going back to full-time
1:55
work for the first time in four years.
1:58
I'm happy to announce
2:01
that this Monday, I'm a middle
2:03
school teacher.
2:05
And she wasn't going to let Nancy get in the way
2:07
of it. I'm
2:20
Charlie Webster. You're
2:22
listening to Scamander. I'm
2:31
a middle school teacher. I'm a middle school
2:33
teacher. I'm a middle school teacher. I'm
2:36
a middle school teacher. I'm a middle
2:38
school teacher. There
2:42
was somebody else questioning Amanda
2:45
in her very own home. When
2:48
I lived with my dad, I just kind of
2:50
had to follow everything
2:53
they did. I had to be
2:55
perfect. I remember Amanda
2:57
saying she was in pain. She just didn't feel good.
3:00
She would stay in her bed all day. She couldn't get out of
3:03
bed. What
3:05
would you do? Go to school, handle
3:07
all my responsibilities and all my after-school
3:10
stuff. I
3:12
took a big part in taking care
3:15
of my little brothers too at home. I was a middle school
3:17
teacher. I was a middle school teacher.
3:20
I was a middle school teacher. And
3:22
taking care of my little brothers too at
3:24
home. What else did you have to do?
3:28
Most of my job
3:31
as their babysitter was just
3:34
being there with them. From the time I got
3:36
home from school to the time I had to go
3:38
to sleep. And I was the one
3:40
there with them all the time. Amanda was
3:42
always upstairs in her bed. My
3:45
dad was always doing something
3:47
else working out. I don't know what he was
3:49
doing. I was the one
3:52
taking care of them most of the time.
3:54
It was really
3:56
stressful. They'd always
3:59
put a lot of pressure on me to
4:02
exceed in school and do really
4:04
well with my athletic activities and everything. And then
4:06
I had to come home and take care of the kids. And it
4:09
was a lot of pressure. It was a lot
4:11
of pressure. After finding
4:13
the IV in her brother's room, Jessa
4:16
started to put two and two together. I
4:19
told my mom about the IV thing
4:21
and I told her, I don't see Amanda like
4:23
go to appointments anymore. My dad doesn't go to appointments
4:26
with her anymore. I don't even know where she goes.
4:29
And my
4:31
mom then
4:33
told me that there was an investigation
4:35
going on
4:36
and that Amanda didn't
4:39
have cancer. When
4:41
she sat down and she told me, why
4:44
did I find the IV? I found an IV when
4:46
she was talking about the IV. And then she started asking me about
4:49
her dad not going to chemo appointments.
4:52
Basically, this kid was telling me things aren't adding
4:54
up, right? So I had
4:57
to tell her. Why didn't
4:59
you tell her before? I
5:02
guess to
5:04
try to protect her as long as possible.
5:08
The kid was just too damn smart. She
5:12
knew. She put it together
5:14
fairly quickly. I really didn't have to keep it from her very
5:16
long. At the same time, it was
5:18
still an investigation, even though I knew it was true.
5:20
I needed proof to prove
5:22
anything in court, right? But
5:25
even though we had people
5:27
for the court system to talk to and the people
5:29
in the court system to talk to, they still didn't do anything. What
5:32
was it like for you to hear that? It
5:35
was really hard. It was life-changing.
5:41
I believed for so many years that she was sick. I've
5:43
been told that she didn't have that long to live. My
5:47
emotions were just toyed with, pretty much.
5:51
She was fooling all those people.
5:55
And then having to go back home with my
5:57
dad and just kind of sit there knowing.
6:00
that that was going on was
6:02
really hard. My
6:04
mom had, I think it
6:07
was weekly visitation, and
6:09
we had like two hours in a parking lot somewhere
6:12
to sit in the car and talk. So
6:14
I lived with my dad and Amanda for quite a while
6:17
knowing that she didn't have cancer. I
6:20
wasn't able to do anything, but
6:24
it felt like
6:26
me and my family were living a lie because
6:29
it seemed that everything was based
6:31
around Amanda being sick. And
6:35
that's how we were getting our money and our food and
6:37
our Christmas gifts and my
6:39
gymnastics lessons, my tennis
6:42
lessons, everything like that. Everything
6:44
that was going on in our life was based around
6:46
Amanda's cancer.
6:48
What do you mean by your gymnastic lessons
6:51
and your tennis lessons? The
6:53
instructors, I guess, felt
6:55
sorry and donated those lessons to me.
7:00
Did you ever feel like sending anything to your dad? I
7:03
knew I couldn't. I
7:05
knew that not only would
7:07
it cause a lot of problems for me, but I knew
7:09
I probably wouldn't be able to see my mom anymore.
7:12
I knew he'd take it to court and say, she's
7:15
telling Jess all these horrible things, and I didn't
7:17
want that. What
7:19
was your dad like during that time?
7:22
I don't know how to describe it. He
7:25
was very,
7:28
I want to say not himself, but
7:30
I don't think I really know
7:33
who he actually is as a person. He
7:36
just kind of looked numb
7:38
all the time.
7:40
He knew
7:40
he was doing something wrong.
7:45
What was his behavior like? He
7:47
was always taking us everywhere. He was always going
7:49
to the gym.
7:52
With my dad, he'd always just kind of be like, oh,
7:54
you know, Mandy's sick and we can't
7:56
do this. It
7:59
kind of was. I was with Amanda. Oh,
8:02
I can't because I'm sick. I can't
8:04
do this, I can't do that, I'm sick. She
8:08
always tries to put on a nice face
8:11
in front of me. I
8:13
think it's part of her trying to win
8:17
my trust back or try
8:19
to make me feel sorry for her. And
8:21
I never did. I see
8:23
right through who she is and it wasn't
8:26
gonna happen. It
8:28
would take us to the hospital
8:29
almost to kind of prove
8:33
that, oh, something's wrong with her.
8:38
Low blood pressure, low blood counts, fainting,
8:41
fevers, illness, pick line infections,
8:43
mimicking heart attacks and everything
8:46
else you can think of.
8:47
Five hospital stays and 32
8:50
doctor's appointments slash lab visits this
8:52
month alone.
8:55
I just remember hearing that, oh, Amanda's
8:58
really, really sick this time and
9:00
she's gonna have like a big surgery or she had
9:02
a big surgery. My dad was like,
9:04
yeah, we should go to the hospital and you guys can
9:07
come visit her. So we did. It
9:09
was really strange for me because I knew she didn't
9:12
have cancer. I'm like, what are you telling the doctors?
9:15
Like, what's the reason you're here? You know what I mean?
9:18
Jessa had said, she was really
9:20
upset and she asked me if she
9:23
was going to get in trouble because
9:26
she felt like because she was getting, you know,
9:29
free this and free that. I
9:32
mean, she thought she was gonna get in
9:34
trouble at one point and I said, no, absolutely
9:37
not. This is not because of you. This
9:39
is because of what Amanda did. What
9:42
Amanda was doing was getting the attention
9:44
of Detective Martinez from the San Jose
9:46
Police Department.
9:49
I started talking to Amanda's attorney
9:52
and I ended up getting on the phone with him.
9:55
And I said, this is a real
9:57
simple case. It's so simple.
10:00
It's simple that it's complex. All
10:02
I need to know is, does she or
10:04
does she not have cancer? Do
10:08
you know? He said,
10:10
well, she told me she had cancer and you've seen
10:12
all of her social media. I said, again,
10:15
do you know? And so
10:17
that's when Days following,
10:19
he showed up to the police
10:22
department with a note
10:24
from the doctor saying
10:27
it's something with the fact that she was in remission
10:29
or cancer. It
10:32
was something specific because it's a doctor and
10:34
now it's a hospital name. And so
10:37
I thought, this is easy. I'm going
10:39
to contact the hospital.
10:43
They actually have an investigative division
10:45
in there.
10:47
A lot of them are retired FBI
10:49
directors. So I
10:51
had to give this whole case spiel again. And
10:54
they weren't a hundred percent
10:56
cooperative. They were kind of like, well, we'll
10:58
accept your information but we can't share with you
11:00
what we're doing or what direction
11:02
we're going to go in with this. Okay,
11:05
but I just need to know whether or not this doctor
11:07
knows
11:08
that their name is attached to
11:11
this communication and this is him
11:13
that made this statement. Can't you
11:15
just say that? So
11:18
then, you know, I send that down the rabbit hole.
11:20
Detective Martinez showed us a letter
11:23
with the doctor's header and signature, stating
11:25
that his patient, Amanda C. Riley, was
11:27
in remission from cancer.
11:29
Having cases, it's kind
11:31
of like, you know, the person in the circus that has
11:33
all the little sticks and they're spinning the plates
11:36
on all the sticks and they're holding two in
11:38
their hands and one on their nose and one on their
11:40
head and they just keep spinning the plates before
11:43
the plate wobbles off and falls off. That's
11:45
what you're doing all day. You just keep spinning the plates.
11:47
I just keep giving a little turn and keep it rolling.
11:50
And so that was another little plate spin for me.
11:53
I'll see what comes back from this. So
11:56
I sent that one down the line. Then
11:58
I got back
11:59
on the horse.
12:00
calling people again. As
12:03
the blog continued and the information
12:05
was continuing to come in, Nancy was sharing
12:08
with me, oh, she blogged again. She
12:10
was here or she was there, she was
12:12
on these dates or whatever. I
12:14
said, okay, I'm going
12:16
to follow up with all these little pieces. That's
12:19
what sent me down to the
12:22
first break in the case.
12:26
I remember thinking, Detective
12:30
Martinez spoke to her. My God, this
12:32
is great. She's going to stop because I really
12:34
at that point, I just wanted her to
12:36
stop. It was really hard to look at what she was
12:38
doing. And I
12:40
just thought, oh, she's going to stop. This
12:43
is great. She's going to shoot
12:45
her pants and a detective
12:48
from the police department. She's now
12:50
in contact with, it's going to stop.
12:53
He was like, no, Nancy, she's
12:55
in too deep. I was like, no, no, I would stop.
12:58
I assumed this would be enough
13:00
to kind of go, okay, we're done here. I
13:03
feel like I could sleep better. And
13:06
it was pretty soon after they
13:08
were going back and forth that I think
13:11
to me, she took the biggest leap of
13:14
claiming she was self-injecting chemotherapy.
13:17
One more blood test which cleared
13:19
me to fly home. My doctor so
13:22
graciously is going to let me self-inject
13:25
my next round of chemo. Um,
13:28
yikes. When I read that,
13:30
I
13:31
just remember like yelling
13:34
something out like you've got to be fucking kidding
13:36
me. Like, first of all, this is so ridiculous
13:38
that there's so many things wrong with
13:41
that. It's like no one's injecting
13:43
chemo therapy. Have you ever known anybody to inject chemotherapy
13:45
at their house? I mean, how much bolder
13:47
could you get? And I just said,
13:49
whoop, okay, she's going all the way. While
13:52
it sounded ridiculous to Nancy that someone
13:54
could self-inject chemo at home, it
13:56
turns out that it is possible to self-inject
13:59
chemo.
14:00
I was calling to all
14:03
these hospitals and I thought, I'm
14:05
getting the same conversation with
14:07
everybody. I would call in and
14:10
I would talk to like a CEO or somebody
14:12
in the
14:12
upper management. And
14:15
I thought, I'm going to change my formula here. I'm going
14:17
to
14:17
ask for a legal department. So
14:20
City of Hope in Southern
14:22
California put me
14:24
through to their legal department. In
14:27
her blog, City of Hope was really
14:30
crucial. She talked about it a lot. She
14:33
had been seen by them because she was going
14:35
to get a stem cell transplant
14:37
there. So she had blogged about how she was
14:39
going to be in that hospital for three
14:41
or four months. That she had all her
14:43
pre visits and in
14:46
other documentation, Corey and
14:48
her wrote to the ex-wife,
14:50
Alita, and said, We're moving to Southern
14:52
California because she's getting stem cell
14:55
treatment at City of Hope. In
14:58
cancer patients that have already done several
15:00
rounds of chemotherapy and the cancer still
15:02
persists, a stem cell transplant
15:04
can be used as a way for doctors
15:06
to give higher doses of radiation therapy
15:09
or chemo. City of Hope
15:11
is one of the world's largest and most
15:13
successful stem cell transplant centers.
15:16
Detective
15:16
Martinez was hoping to get some information
15:19
in a phone call to City of Hope. I
15:21
said, okay, here we go. I got
15:24
maybe three minutes to sell this thing to
15:26
somebody who's going to bite.
15:28
By that time, I had told a story so many
15:30
times that I had refined it
15:33
down to this three minute presentation.
15:36
So finally somebody gets
15:39
on the line from the legal department. I
15:42
said before you hang up because I've
15:44
had a number of conversations with
15:47
so many organizations.
15:49
Just listen to me for just a minute. Hear
15:51
me out and then you can make a decision. But
15:54
hear me first. Let us sink in
15:56
for just a second. And so
15:58
I gave him the phone call. this little quick
16:01
spiel. There's this young lady, she's
16:03
been saying she has cancer,
16:05
she's been blogging, she's
16:07
been collecting money from sites
16:10
and
16:11
going around across the states and
16:13
still selling this whole thing. I said, now,
16:16
she may very well be sick, but she
16:19
cited your hospital as one of her stops.
16:23
Stem cell and platelet harvesting has
16:25
been scheduled. Finally, one
16:28
in February and one in March. With
16:31
City of Hope's research and technology, they
16:34
can gather the stem cells with
16:36
a low sedative and a machine rather
16:39
than having to penetrate my hip bones
16:41
for the marrow, which is incredible.
16:45
Insurance has signed the dotted line, finally.
16:48
One of the places she stayed here, this
16:51
is the doctor she said, this is the medication
16:53
she said she was given. I said, so
16:55
this is not HIPAA, because if
16:58
she's not a patient here, then
17:00
there's no confidentiality. You're
17:02
just saying yes or no. What's
17:05
the liability? And if you're just saying yes or no.
17:08
So I said, if you want, take a look at
17:10
the blog or I could send you a quick snippet
17:12
of it in an email. And
17:14
it's not something that I put out, it's something she put
17:16
out. So I'm just asking
17:19
you to say yes or no. She
17:22
was a patient or she wasn't, how hard is that?
17:25
And if you say, if you give me the
17:27
truth,
17:28
then I can pursue the truth, right?
17:30
And I can get to the bottom of this. And if
17:32
she's really faking, then I can
17:35
pursue the truth from another end and
17:37
maybe take this girl off the set so
17:39
that she's not redirecting
17:42
monies and services and resources
17:45
that should go to somebody who truly has this illness.
17:47
According to Amanda's mom, Peggy,
17:49
the City of Hope procedure was a success.
17:53
She sent an email around to friends and family
17:56
to let them know and thank them for their help covering the costs.
17:58
Friends and family,
18:01
Amanda is doing well. City
18:04
of Hope successfully harvested
18:07
some of her stem cells. She
18:09
is tough and the family is committed
18:11
to doing whatever it takes. Response
18:14
to supportamanda.com the past six
18:16
months has been a huge help in
18:19
covering the costs of her co-pays,
18:21
prescriptions, and deductibles. Thank
18:24
you all and
18:25
please revisit as you can.
18:29
Detective Martinez was waiting for a call
18:32
back from City of Hope to confirm
18:34
Amanda was a patient there.
18:35
I sent them the blog that
18:37
Nancy had sent me. They took
18:39
a while to get back to me, like a week. So they gave
18:42
me an email
18:43
basically saying, no, she's
18:45
not a patient, she's never been a patient. And
18:50
that was from their legal department. And I got
18:53
chills because I was like,
18:55
finally. After
18:58
all these calls or all these emails, this
19:00
phone conversation, I
19:03
have her. I know
19:05
she's a fraudster now.
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19:56
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19:58
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20:00
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20:15
This was the piece of information that
20:17
Detective Martinez felt he needed.
20:20
But now he had to figure out what to do with it.
20:23
While Amanda may not have been a patient
20:25
at City of Hope, it didn't mean
20:27
she didn't have cancer. Martinez
20:30
needed something more than just an email
20:32
from a hospital's legal department.
20:34
You have to settle to a district
20:36
attorney for them to bite
20:38
into it and go, okay, well, you
20:40
know, they're the ones who have to present this thing in court.
20:43
They want to feel confident. I'm
20:45
not giving them something that, you
20:47
know, it's going to get in court and it's going to fall
20:49
apart like an eggshell.
20:51
I'm a California officer. As
20:53
long as that business does business in California
20:55
and San Jose, the connection, the
20:57
nexus to where I'm at, then I
21:00
could reach for it. But
21:02
she was doing stuff on the East Coast and
21:04
then that put me out of reach and I wasn't sure
21:06
what she was doing over there and
21:09
everywhere in between. If
21:11
my only goal is to just
21:15
get a charge on her, I could
21:17
get a local charge, but if she's doing something federal,
21:20
whole different ballgame.
21:24
In the months that I was communicating with
21:26
Detective Martinez, I
21:28
handed over the information I had. He was
21:31
knee deep in his investigation. He was
21:33
able to talk with Amanda. He was able to
21:36
verify a lot of the information I gave him,
21:39
reached out to medical facilities. So he
21:42
was working the case his way and could
21:45
only take it so far. It
21:47
just was frustrating to me to be in this holding
21:50
cycle of, okay, what's going to
21:52
happen? What's next? When's the arrest?
21:54
All these things. And I think
21:56
in the end, it just got really frustrating
21:59
for the both of us.
22:01
So I thought about old
22:03
cases and I thought, well, how component
22:06
did you get taken down for all the, you know,
22:09
murder and bootleg or
22:12
prohibition stuff? Yeah, taken
22:14
down from the IRS. And
22:17
I thought, well, she is getting monies
22:20
from all this, from who knows, from
22:23
wherever, right? Because you're on the internet. The
22:25
internet is worldwide.
22:26
I had spoken with my father-in-law
22:29
in regards to Amanda's
22:32
case because he was a retired IRS
22:34
agent. And, you know, just talking
22:36
through it with him, he said, well, you know,
22:39
you should contact the IRS because that's wire
22:41
fraud. He explained why,
22:44
he explained what her actions
22:46
meant in the world of federal
22:49
felony charges. And he said, you know, that's wire
22:51
fraud. You should call the
22:53
IRS.
22:53
That's exactly what I did.
22:57
I had met Arlotte Lee,
23:00
the IRS investigator in
23:02
an investigative school. So
23:05
she invited me to come down to the office
23:07
in San Jose. She
23:10
heard the whole thing out and then we had this
23:12
conversation. And then like, here we
23:14
are. What do you think? And
23:18
I was surprised. I was like, yeah, I
23:20
like it. I want to go with it. Sounds good.
23:22
Because they had no cases like it
23:24
before. An IRS cancer
23:26
scam.
23:29
My name is Arlotte Lee. I'm an
23:31
IRS special agent. One of our things
23:33
we do is it's financial crimes, primarily
23:36
tax, but any
23:38
sort of a financial crime where there's fraud
23:41
involved. The appeal to me
23:43
was there was money being obtained
23:46
fraudulently. So that's just, that's right
23:48
up our alley with all kinds of financial
23:50
crimes, whether it's investment fraud or
23:53
any other type of financial crime. And this was
23:55
no different except the
23:58
draw was really wanting
23:59
to
23:59
no, okay, she's pretending
24:02
to have cancer, telling people she has cancer,
24:04
she's getting donations. And
24:07
for myself, I'm like, well, I
24:09
want to find out if she does or not. It's just
24:11
human nature.
24:12
Then you have that financial
24:15
aspect where she is getting money under
24:17
false pretenses. And so
24:19
I was able to join the case assisting
24:22
with Detective Martinez from the San Jose
24:24
Police Department. And so that's kind of
24:27
how it started.
24:29
Despite the now federal investigation
24:31
into Amanda,
24:33
she kept posting. Every
24:35
time I have to go to New York, especially
24:38
so close together, it's panic time.
24:41
And posting. A family from church
24:43
reached out on Thanksgiving and decided
24:46
they wanted to pay for my trial drug,
24:48
all $1,350 of it. And
24:52
posting. Then beautiful Cafero
24:54
family graciously used their points to
24:57
get me to and from no questions asked
24:59
on top of being our most consistent generous donors.
25:03
So this trip cost our family
25:05
nothing. Thanking people
25:07
for their generous donations. We had
25:09
another family offer to pay my next
25:11
chemo medication in two weeks. I
25:14
can't even tell you what it feels like to
25:16
not feel any monetary stress for this trip or
25:18
the next. We feel very blessed. And
25:21
she was posting pictures alongside. Self
25:24
is in hospital, her bruised
25:26
arms from all the needles
25:28
and the medication that she was now self injecting.
25:31
We are officially to immunotherapy
25:33
contruded injections down. I
25:36
thought giving myself injections would be a lot
25:38
scarier than it was. It was
25:40
actually really easy and relatively pain-free
25:42
using my pick line. She
25:45
was posing with a needle and
25:47
medications and talking about these
25:49
are the medications and I'm gonna
25:52
be able to do this at home.
25:53
I mean, a clinical trial is so specific and
25:57
you have to be at a hospital. That's
26:00
the whole idea.
26:02
But she's special, and she's allowed
26:04
to do it at home now.
26:06
It is absurd. When
26:09
I started to fact check
26:12
what was in Amanda's blog in regards
26:14
to her treatments in New York
26:15
and the drugs, you know, the clinical trials
26:18
she was involved with, I knew I
26:20
couldn't call up and say, oh, tell me all about Amanda
26:22
Riley and her treatment. Like, it doesn't, you can't do that,
26:24
right? So I had to come up
26:26
with a way to ask the questions
26:29
that were
26:30
very broad.
26:33
I had reached out to that oncology department,
26:35
right? I introduced myself. I
26:38
told them who I was
26:40
and what I was investigating, and I sent
26:42
them
26:43
the blog. So
26:46
they saw the blog. They saw what Amanda
26:48
was claiming to be treated there, and
26:51
they didn't like what they saw, and they were really
26:53
concerned.
26:54
And then about a week later, you know,
26:57
they got back to me and said, well,
27:00
we can't talk to you about
27:01
any of our patients or any one in
27:03
particular, but we
27:05
would like to answer whatever questions you may have. I
27:09
started going through the blog methodically with
27:11
each trip to New York, and I said, on this date, and I would
27:13
give the date, did
27:16
you have the start of a new clinical
27:18
trial
27:18
for the drug Ktruda? And
27:21
they would say, no, we did not
27:24
have a trial start that week. And
27:27
I
27:27
would call back each time, very specific. I quoted
27:30
everything from her blog. On this
27:32
date, did you have a patient
27:34
receive Ktruda and have a lung
27:36
collapse? On this date, from
27:38
this medication? No, we did not.
27:41
On this date,
27:43
did you have a patient
27:46
break out in hives and needed mega
27:48
doses of Benadryl because of such a severe
27:51
reaction to the drug
27:52
Ktruda? No. Not
27:54
only was it a no, but
27:57
I would say 90% of the time it was. don't
28:00
have a current trial of Catruda
28:03
going right now. Clinical trials
28:05
have regulated, it's very specific. There's
28:08
start dates and there's end dates.
28:10
Amanda's
28:10
treatment did not fit into
28:13
any of that protocol.
28:14
So I knew, I knew she wasn't
28:17
being treated there and I knew the facts
28:20
made no sense.
28:23
Amanda
28:23
was claiming to be allowed
28:26
to self inject Catruda
28:29
at home. What she
28:31
was claiming was it was holiday
28:33
time. It was gonna be, she was supposed to go back for
28:35
another round of Catruda. It was
28:37
Thanksgiving and she put in
28:40
her blog, oh, isn't this great? My
28:42
oncologist wants me to be able to enjoy the holidays
28:44
at home so he is allowing me to
28:47
self inject
28:48
basically in the comforts
28:49
of my own home. So
28:52
I called and I said, do
28:55
you allow any
28:56
of the drugs to be shipped,
28:58
to be used in the comfort of somebody's
29:00
home if they're in a clinical trial? They
29:02
didn't even know what to say there. First they was like,
29:04
no, absolutely not. And I said, well, explain.
29:07
I asked them to explain the process of giving
29:09
someone
29:09
the drug Catruda. And
29:12
I was told Catruda is stored
29:15
at below freezing temperatures, it has
29:17
to be reconstituted in a
29:19
ventilated pharmacy. It then
29:21
has to be given in an IV
29:24
form added to another solution.
29:27
So it's a multi-step process
29:29
in very, very restricted
29:33
areas where there's proper ventilation
29:35
and that it's made into an IV. You know,
29:37
when Amanda was claiming to just be, you know, shooting
29:40
it up herself at home in the bathroom,
29:41
she was showing pictures of herself
29:44
with the needle up in the air. Amanda
29:46
Riley was not in a clinical trial.
29:49
Amanda Riley was surely not
29:52
injecting chemotherapy at home. It
29:54
was just that simple. The
29:57
drug Catruda is given through an IV
29:59
line. over a 30-minute period, and
30:02
treatments usually take place at a doctor's
30:04
office or an infusion clinic.
30:10
Nancy's investigation may have began
30:12
quietly, but she was starting
30:14
to show her hand, and Amanda
30:16
was not having any of it. Nancy
30:19
came home one day to a stack of papers
30:21
stuffed in her mailbox. Amanda
30:25
was serving her with a civil harassment
30:27
restraining order. My
30:30
initial reaction when I got the papers was,
30:32
okay, I got to talk to an attorney. This
30:34
was on a Friday. The paperwork
30:37
said I was due in court on Tuesday morning,
30:40
and Monday was a court holiday, so there was no
30:42
one I could contact at the courts
30:44
in between. I called the attorney. They
30:46
said, were you physically served? I said, no. No
30:50
one handed me papers. They were stuffed in my mailbox. And
30:52
they said, well, you weren't legally served. You don't
30:54
have to appear if you weren't
30:55
legally served. Whoever
30:58
was supposed to serve me was paid
31:00
to come to Southern California
31:03
and hand me papers.
31:04
You
31:06
have to be physically served the papers,
31:08
because the person serving you is acknowledging
31:11
that they served the proper person and
31:13
that
31:14
the person receiving the papers is Nancy Muscatello.
31:17
So
31:18
putting them in a random mailbox doesn't
31:20
mean Nancy Muscatello was served. It means a mailbox
31:22
was served. So
31:24
what should have happened is
31:26
when I came home from work, a
31:29
person would have approached me and said, are
31:31
you Nancy Muscatello? And I probably would have turned
31:33
to yes, why? And they would have handed me and said,
31:35
you've been served and handed me the
31:38
paperwork. That is how you serve
31:40
someone.
31:42
I would have had to have been in
31:44
San Jose, California Tuesday
31:46
morning by 8 a.m. And I live in Los Angeles,
31:49
which is a five-hour drive. So
31:51
I
31:52
knew, like, I needed answers and I needed to know what
31:54
to do.
31:55
Did I need to get up to San Jose or not? It's
31:57
a five-hour drive.
32:00
holiday weekend and I
32:02
was told, you know, you don't need to be there. What
32:06
were you being accused of? I
32:08
was being accused of harassment,
32:11
civil harassment. So she wanted, Amanda Riley
32:13
wanted a restraining order
32:15
to stop me from contacting
32:18
family, contacting work,
32:21
not only for her, but for her husband, Corey,
32:24
and to have basically no contact
32:26
with anyone
32:27
involved in their lives. One
32:29
of the things she wanted me to be restrained
32:32
from doing was contacting family members.
32:34
She said I had reached out many
32:37
times and contacted family members,
32:39
which just was not true.
32:41
She said that I got her
32:43
fired from one of her jobs. That
32:46
just was not true. She said I got her
32:48
husband fired from one of his jobs.
32:52
Again, that just wasn't true. That
32:55
I took on different personas
32:58
and were posting things online
33:01
about her. Again, that
33:03
just wasn't true.
33:05
Nancy, I've got the definition of civil
33:07
harassment here. It says civil harassment
33:09
is abuse, threats of abuse, stalking, sexual
33:11
assaults, or serious harassment by someone
33:13
you have not dated and do not have a close relationship
33:16
with. Then there's the civil harassment laws,
33:18
which is specific to California. It
33:20
says harassment is unlawful violence
33:22
like assault or battery or stalking or
33:25
a credible real threat of violence and
33:27
the violence or threat seriously scare, annoy,
33:29
or harass someone and there is no valid
33:31
reason for it. Do you think in any
33:34
way she
33:35
had a case because she
33:37
felt
33:38
that it was harassing
33:40
to her and it was annoying
33:43
to her? I mean, I don't think
33:45
Amanda Riley had a leg to stand on. I
33:47
mean, I didn't contact her.
33:50
I didn't
33:51
threaten her. I didn't reach
33:54
out in any way that wasn't extremely
33:57
professional and what any
33:59
journalists would do. You know, I would
34:02
say Amanda
34:03
Riley felt
34:06
seriously harassed or annoyed about
34:08
being caught
34:09
or about being called
34:11
out or about being questioned because
34:14
none of my actions were threatening,
34:17
violent, anything
34:19
that I would say, you know,
34:21
was out of line. How did you
34:24
feel that she was taking you to court?
34:26
I was concerned for
34:29
my reputation and the work
34:31
that I do and having repercussions
34:34
from this because it's important
34:37
that
34:37
I follow
34:39
a code of ethics that I, you know, I
34:41
feel are really important. And so when someone calls
34:44
up to question, it's really
34:46
important to defend myself and to hold true
34:49
to how I do things.
34:53
I knew what Amanda Riley was
34:55
capable of and I knew she
34:58
would not hesitate to use manipulation
35:01
and lies to stop me.
35:07
I see the little
35:09
shred of truth that Amanda used to
35:12
then exaggerate, change,
35:15
and depict me as some
35:17
out of control person.
35:24
But yeah, you know, when you have a detective order,
35:27
it's serious. I mean, that's something that's on your record. So
35:31
that wasn't a good feeling at all. And
35:35
as a journalist, as someone that works in
35:38
news, like
35:39
a restraining order for what, like,
35:41
that's really detrimental. She
35:44
essentially was able to get a judge to restrain
35:47
the press.
35:54
Despite the threat to Nancy's reputation,
35:57
a pending restraining order, not
36:00
only by her friends, but her husband
36:02
and daughter. She was in so
36:04
deep that she couldn't let it go.
36:07
It was impossible to resist contacting
36:09
IRS Special Agent Arlette
36:11
Lee. I reached out. I
36:13
said, I don't want to come across nuts like writing
36:16
all this out, but I sent anything I could show
36:19
the back and forth of what Amanda was saying
36:21
and doing.
36:24
And I said,
36:25
just look at the stuff I've done. I had
36:27
meticulous logs of all my phone calls
36:30
to the different doctors and the different places that
36:32
I was trying to keep an order.
36:34
Said, have a look at that. Have a look at the blog.
36:38
Here's my source agreed
36:40
to speak to federal agents also,
36:43
if need be. I sent
36:45
over everything digitally and just said, just
36:48
look at it.
36:49
And then let's go from there. And then you
36:51
ask me whatever you want. I can kind
36:53
of give because this is a lot to take in. And
36:56
so months went by. I didn't hear anything.
36:58
I would periodically,
37:00
when I would come across someone new or found
37:03
new information, I would send it.
37:06
It took a few months until I actually
37:08
heard back from
37:09
Arlette. One
37:11
of the first things she said, and I know the feeling, she
37:14
said, you know, my sister has
37:16
cancer and it's not good. And
37:19
so when I finally sat down and looked
37:21
at everything you sent, I
37:24
could not believe somebody
37:26
could do this. And I
37:29
want to take this case on and see what I can do. And
37:32
I knew she couldn't tell me much. She explained that
37:35
they have to go in front of her grand jury. She explained
37:37
to me once that happened, you
37:39
can send people my way. You could, if
37:41
you would want, if they want to talk to me, give
37:44
them my number, but I can't let
37:46
you know what's going on. And I said, that's
37:48
fine. I said, you just
37:51
have to trust that
37:51
I'm working. We're working
37:54
on it.
38:01
When Nancy started telling me
38:03
about, we were on the phone, and she
38:05
was telling me about what they
38:08
thought Amanda Riley was doing, I
38:11
just felt my heart, like
38:13
my throat got really tight, and
38:18
I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I
38:21
also felt a sense sort of guilty.
38:24
I thought, how could somebody who's
38:26
doing this, how could I be looking at somebody
38:28
like this? Because a lot of times people
38:30
will come
38:31
and say, oh, this person is doing this,
38:34
that, or the other thing, and it may
38:36
not necessarily be 100% true.
38:39
I felt nervous looking at this
38:42
case. Was
38:44
I making the right decision to look
38:47
at it? But my job is
38:49
to look at the facts, so I got information.
38:52
I need to figure out whether or not crime's
38:54
been committed.
38:57
After talking to Detective Martinez, I knew,
39:00
okay, there's really, there's something
39:02
there, and so then it was at that
39:04
point, okay, I need to talk
39:06
to the U.S. Attorney's Office to see if we can
39:09
look at this further, because I think
39:11
Detective Martinez was limited in
39:13
what he could get at that point in the
39:16
investigation.
39:16
There was
39:19
enough information, enough public
39:21
record, because you have these posts,
39:24
to show that
39:25
something doesn't add up.
39:27
And so that's when I
39:29
decided, okay, let me look at this closer.
39:32
As much as we might like to think it could be,
39:35
lying isn't illegal. Investigators
39:39
have to sift through the web of lies and
39:41
find evidence of what actual crime
39:43
is being committed.
39:45
In this case, there was a paper trail
39:47
of donations coming in online. Wire
39:51
fraud is when there's some fraudulent
39:53
statement. There's something that
39:55
leads people to give
39:57
you, send you money through the wires. And
40:00
in this particular case, she's saying
40:03
that she has cancer. People are
40:05
sending her money, and then the money goes through
40:07
her bank accounts. And so wire
40:09
fraud is pretty much using the wires
40:12
to get money under false pretenses.
40:16
The way our cases work is we work up the investigation,
40:19
we get all of our evidence, and then we present it to
40:22
the U.S. Attorney's Office for prosecution. And
40:25
so sometimes it
40:27
just takes longer. I think a
40:29
lot of the witnesses, and including Nancy,
40:31
would call and say, what's going on?
40:33
And I'm like,
40:34
I haven't given up. I'm
40:36
still working on this, but the wheels of justice
40:39
sometimes just move slowly. When
40:43
there's
40:43
indications of fraud
40:45
with medical records, we are able
40:48
to subpoena those records.
40:51
Criminal investigators can get
40:53
access to those records via subpoena. Can
40:56
you tell us about those medical records?
40:59
There were a lot of records because
41:01
it covered a long period of time. But
41:04
as far as what was in the records, I wouldn't
41:07
be able to discuss that. But
41:09
there were a lot of medical records. Does
41:11
a lot mean a small
41:14
pile, or does a lot mean you can fill
41:16
a room with folders? It's
41:18
all electronic. So I mean,
41:21
I would look at it in piece
41:23
fill as I would get it. But
41:25
thousands and thousands of pages.
41:29
So there were a lot of records to go through. How
41:32
much did her blog actually help you? It
41:35
was very helpful because it did. If
41:37
she said she was going to be at City of Hope or
41:40
she was going to be at Columbia, then that's where
41:42
we went.
41:46
Agent
41:46
Lee and I didn't really talk that
41:48
much after that. If
41:50
there was some information or a person I came across
41:53
that I thought she needed to know about, I would email
41:55
her or direct that person to reach out to her. I wasn't
41:58
privy to what was going on.
41:59
in the investigation, and then
42:02
I got a tip that they were going
42:04
to be serving a search warrant on
42:07
Amanda and
42:07
Corey Riley's home. And
42:09
it was at that point that I knew it was an active
42:12
and open case. Nancy
42:15
actually went to the raid with her reporter friend
42:17
Anna Garcia. I'm Anna
42:20
Garcia and I'm a crime reporter.
42:23
Nancy got a tip that the authorities
42:26
were going to be serving a search
42:29
warrant on Amanda's
42:31
house. And usually
42:33
these things happen before the sun even
42:35
rises
42:36
because you want
42:38
to make sure that you catch everyone
42:41
when they're not expecting you for
42:43
a lot of reasons. Because
42:46
it makes sure that the people
42:49
who you're serving the search warrant on don't
42:51
have time to destroy evidence. So
42:54
when you catch them when they're kind of sleepy,
42:56
it's the ultimate
42:58
to preserve evidence. So
43:01
we got there several hours
43:04
before daylight and
43:06
there were three of us in the
43:08
car and we are parked
43:11
out of the way but yet still able
43:14
to see
43:16
Amanda's house. And
43:18
you know, in those early morning
43:20
hours when you're sitting in a car, you
43:22
are just talking about everything and just waiting.
43:26
And it never ceases
43:28
to surprise me how when the
43:30
raid goes down, it happens so
43:33
quickly even though you're sitting there
43:35
and waiting and prepared, that
43:38
all of a sudden it happens so fast that you're like scrambling
43:41
and you're jumping and everything's dropping
43:43
out of your lap as you're running out of
43:45
the car and running toward the
43:48
house
43:49
where this is happening. You're
43:52
always catching up even when you're there waiting.
43:56
And that's exactly what happened that morning.
44:00
We ran up there. The agents
44:02
were already through
44:05
the front yard at the front door with
44:07
a battering ram and banging
44:09
on the door and waking everyone up.
44:13
This is real audio of the house
44:15
raid. The voice you can hear
44:17
is Nancy's friend Anna describing what
44:19
is going on. Right now, it looks like the
44:21
IRS is going in with agents
44:24
to search the house. They're knocking on the door. They've
44:27
got a warrant. You can hear them. They're knocking on the door
44:30
and they're saying,
44:30
we've got a warrant. We did
44:32
a stakeout. When the feds
44:34
came, they came like before 6 a.m. in
44:37
the morning. It's
44:38
like everything you see on TV. They came
44:41
four or five big SUVs, the battering
44:43
ram, SWAT team. It
44:52
was easily 10 IRS agents armed. They
44:58
all jump out and
45:01
they split and go up the
45:03
side of the property over fences
45:05
around the back from what, you know,
45:07
the other group
45:08
did it the other way and then they
45:11
knock on the door and these
45:15
Yelv federal investigators open up. Let
45:18
us in. All right.
45:21
The cops are going over the fence. You've
45:23
got cops at the door banging,
45:26
screaming. Police.
45:27
We've got a search warrant. They are now
45:29
jumping over that fence. You can hear them. You can see
45:32
them. Flashlights everywhere.
45:35
Police, open up. Here
45:40
he is. Hey. Open the door. Open
45:42
the door. Open the door. Open the door. Police.
45:45
Police. OK. So there's somebody home
45:47
and they're telling them to open the door. All right.
45:49
If you guys don't open up, we're going to hit. We're going
45:51
to ram the door. Open up. Open up. I
45:55
mean, I couldn't believe it. Oh my God. This
45:57
is crazy looking because, you know, I'm. I'm
46:00
thinking, she's a mom of two, she's
46:02
a sweet little, this is what neighbors
46:04
know her as, right? And then this
46:07
pulls up and I had to keep reminding myself, like,
46:09
no, this is what happens when you do these things.
46:12
I saw them show
46:14
paperwork to Corey, like this is why we're here,
46:17
here's the documentation for us to come into your home.
46:21
I can't talk too much about that, but I'm not going
46:24
to deny there was a search warrant because the
46:26
media showed up, which is
46:29
not uncommon. And I know
46:31
that in this particular case,
46:34
Nancy was keeping an eye
46:37
on
46:38
everything that she could,
46:39
but I can't
46:41
talk about what happened at the search warrant, but
46:43
I'm not going to deny that there was
46:45
a search warrant. If I could have
46:47
your name, please, and what agency you represent.
46:50
Arlette Lee, I'm a special agent with IRS
46:52
Criminal Investigation. Can you tell us what
46:55
you're doing here? Really, the only thing I can tell
46:57
you at this point is that we are here on official business.
47:01
I don't have anything that's a matter of public record,
47:03
so at this time, I'm not able to provide
47:05
any details. Detective
47:08
Martinez was also at the raid.
47:10
I'm a detective with the San Jose Police
47:12
Department Financial Crimes Investigations.
47:16
This morning at this residence, the IRS
47:18
served a search warrant for
47:21
the residence here. Do you know what they were looking
47:23
for? It's pertaining
47:25
to a financial crime investigation, which is an open
47:27
investigation with the IRS at this time.
47:32
I'd been on a lot of search warrants, and
47:36
I knew that the IRS was going to have a full
47:38
team of their own people, because
47:41
now they're looking for very specific items that
47:44
we're trying to collect to
47:47
prove these charges. I
47:50
was in there with them, but my
47:52
bigger interest was to talk
47:55
with her one-on-one in
47:57
her own living room and just see what the man
47:59
is. demeanor was.
48:03
I searched her room with all the IRS
48:06
folks and I was looking
48:08
for what I knew I would find
48:10
which was like antidepressants,
48:12
Xanax, and the reason
48:15
those are important in the game
48:17
is that even burglary
48:20
crews, larger sophisticated
48:23
organized crime crews, when they
48:25
go in to do a job
48:28
a lot of them would take Xanax and antidepressant
48:31
so they were super calm and
48:33
super collected even though there
48:35
was chaos going on and the excitement
48:38
of the moment
48:39
it would get lost in it and
48:41
so when I saw
48:43
that she had Xanax and
48:46
antidepressant type stuff I thought she's gonna
48:48
be just super chill because
48:50
she's already popped a couple today probably.
48:56
She was a really cool cat
48:59
she was just sitting
49:01
on the couch just chatting
49:03
like yeah go ahead I
49:06
thought you were high as hell right now girl
49:10
and I sat just directly across from you she
49:12
says oh so you're Martinez I
49:16
am nice to meet you.
49:21
What
49:21
did you say to her? She
49:23
didn't talk about the case and I didn't want to go down the
49:25
road to the case she already knew what the game was
49:28
she knew I knew at that
49:31
point she had to have known you
49:34
have a federal agency
49:36
doing a search warrant accompanied
49:38
by a local investigator
49:43
you know that what you're doing
49:45
like you you you know that you you've
49:47
been defrauding folks this
49:50
church and all these people these organizations
49:52
for all this time but like
49:55
I said she was just cools a cucumber
49:57
I
49:59
didn't want to
49:59
I wouldn't pull her into any kind of statements
50:03
just because it was IRS's
50:05
case now. And I probably wouldn't have
50:07
done it there even if it was, you know, I was
50:09
running it. I wouldn't have done it there.
50:12
I would have rather had her in
50:15
an interview room. So
50:17
what did you talk about then? Small
50:19
talk. Just how
50:21
are the kids? You
50:23
know, what's your day like? Basic
50:26
stuff.
50:28
She's more like, oh, yeah, the kids are in school.
50:31
How long are you guys going to be here? I
50:33
don't know. Could be a few hours and whatnot.
50:37
And I got her water.
50:40
She was just kind of like, she
50:43
was just calm. She didn't look worried. She
50:47
looked contemplative. Like she was angling
50:49
for the next thing. Like, what was she going to do with this?
50:53
That's what I felt from her. But like
50:55
I said, she was just super chilled
50:57
out. Just like we are. We're just talking,
50:59
just having a conversation. And
51:01
you have like 10 people
51:04
just tearing up your house, going through
51:06
closets and drawers and your
51:09
underwear drawer. You know, like anything. Like,
51:11
you're like, hey, you don't need to go in there. And
51:14
she wasn't concerned at all.
51:18
What does that tell you about who
51:21
Amanda is, the fact
51:23
that she was like that? Well, because
51:25
she probably had the assistance of Xanax
51:28
or something in her system. She
51:31
may have had like legitimate anxiety
51:33
knowing every day is a scheme.
51:37
Every day is a show. It's an act.
51:40
She has to keep this up. It's
51:42
like that movie, The Truman Show,
51:45
where she knows she's being videoed.
51:48
That's the difference. So everywhere
51:50
she goes, everyone she meets, she's got to keep
51:52
with this storyline.
51:53
She has to study this storyline. And
51:56
I think the blog helps her kind of keep track
51:59
of where she was at. with it. Because
52:02
she had to be accurate with what she's
52:04
putting out publicly, right? Because somebody's gonna ask
52:06
her, hey, so how was hospital, you know, this
52:08
or that?
52:09
How was this medication? How she's got to have
52:12
that answer and ready to go. So
52:15
literally she's an actress and
52:17
a damn good one. Her
52:20
game was so good. She knew
52:23
that she had to keep this face. Because
52:26
if she was gonna show worry then
52:30
she's falling into that, you know, the
52:32
acceptance of it. Like you're going
52:35
down now, right? And you're telling
52:37
people just with your body language. Just
52:39
like you tell people your body language that you're sick.
52:42
So she has that down. She had it down.
52:44
And she's been doing it for a long time. I
52:48
just felt like she believes right now that this
52:50
is gonna blow over. She's gonna get out of this. Could
52:54
you talk to us about what's going on inside your house?
52:56
Nope. What about your wife
52:58
and allegations that she's
53:00
been raising money but doesn't have cancer?
53:04
Can you talk to us about that?
53:14
What were your thoughts of Corey? I
53:16
felt he knew what was going on and his
53:19
part of the act was to play as
53:22
if he didn't know. Like,
53:24
oh my god. Oh, she's not
53:26
sick. I thought in his
53:28
head he had been doing it for a while too. And
53:32
that was the other thing is the
53:34
stepdaughter wasn't convinced she was
53:36
sick. And kids have an instinct
53:38
about parents. I
53:41
think she sensed that like
53:43
whether or not she knew what a real cancer
53:45
victim looked like or I think
53:47
she felt the dishonesty, the inauthenticity
53:50
of the whole scene. The
53:53
day-to-day like it was probably
53:55
just being played out on the stage. This
53:57
is her stage and now you're one of the characters.
53:59
in her stage, but here's
54:02
Amanda. She's in full lack mode. You
54:05
know when somebody's fake crying or fake
54:07
emotional or fake nice,
54:11
kids have that sense about it. And
54:13
this girl was pretty consistent about her
54:16
not being truthful.
54:19
I could see where she got that from
54:22
when I was talking to Amanda. She was... her
54:25
response was not consistent
54:28
with what was happening. It
54:30
was fake concern like, oh my God,
54:33
are the kids going to make
54:35
it to school? Okay.
54:37
And you're like, oh really? I
54:40
mean, you know when somebody's faking. But
54:43
I knew she had to stay with that role.
54:45
Whilst all this was going on, Amanda
54:48
was still putting the cancer thing out there.
54:51
Shortly after the raid, she took to the stage
54:54
again,
54:54
this time at her school. Students
54:57
gathered to listen to her as she showcased
55:00
her cancer struggle and how it
55:02
deepened her relationship
55:03
with God. God
55:05
is always with you in his timing, not
55:08
yours. And it doesn't matter
55:10
if your glass is half full or empty.
55:13
What matters is what your glass
55:15
is filled with.
55:16
Is it filled with godly things or
55:19
worldly worries?
55:21
God didn't give me cancer. God
55:23
prepared me for cancer. And
55:26
she was still taking Nancy to court.
55:28
Amanda Riley filed a
55:31
civil harassment restraining order against me
55:33
and using a bunch of
55:36
extremely exaggerated claims. In
55:38
the request for civil harassment restraining orders,
55:41
these are some of the things that they listed.
55:45
The harassment is ongoing and is targeting Ms.
55:47
Riley's spouse as well. Ms. Muscatello
55:49
has made calls
55:50
to Mr. Riley's employers and
55:52
others in order to threaten and harass him.
55:55
Ms. Muscatello accessed secure court
55:57
records regarding Mr. Riley's pay stubs
55:59
in his family court case. This
56:02
harassment and invasion of privacy has caused
56:04
serious emotional distress and is interfering
56:06
with the ongoing family court case. Ms.
56:10
Moscatella's actions have caused
56:11
Amanda Riley her employment previously.
56:14
Ms. Riley has a new employer and is fearful
56:16
of further actions risking
56:17
her employment.
56:19
The new employer has
56:20
been unwilling to announce Ms. Riley's
56:22
position due to this matter.
56:23
Ms.
56:26
Moscatella's harassment has been an ongoing
56:28
pattern of behavior for over a year. She
56:30
was contacted by Mr. Riley's ex-wife
56:33
in an attempt to cause problems with an ongoing
56:35
family law matter regarding their children.
56:38
Amanda
56:38
Riley was diagnosed with and beat
56:40
cancer. However, Ms. Moscatella
56:42
has been claiming and investigating that Ms.
56:44
Riley never had cancer and was a fraud. This
56:48
has caused Ms. Riley to lose her job and
56:51
put her in fear of losing her new position as
56:53
well. I
56:55
would never say it's harassing. She's putting herself
56:57
out there. She's putting herself
57:00
out there via her work, her court.
57:03
Everything revolves around the cancer. So
57:05
to fact check it, you have to ask questions. You have
57:07
to contact people. You have to... But
57:09
she's accusing you of
57:11
you making her having to resign
57:13
from her job. Yeah. I
57:15
was like, whoa, like, boy, you have
57:18
just upped this big time. Because,
57:20
you know, in my mind, I'm not doing anything wrong.
57:22
I've been doing this for a very long time.
57:24
I'm thorough and I'm careful and I'm
57:27
respectful. When I started
57:29
reading through it, I was like, oh, this is all made
57:31
up. Like, this is all bullshit, right?
57:35
This will be easy because I didn't do any of these
57:37
things.
57:39
I knew she was desperate. I knew
57:42
that this was a desperate attempt
57:45
to silent me and to get
57:47
rid of me because I think she thought that
57:49
it would be easy. Did it deter you
57:51
in any way? Oh, no, no.
57:54
If anything, it made it extremely
57:56
personal.
57:59
I was like bringing on...
58:00
on. Scamander
58:06
is hosted and produced by me,
58:08
Charlie Webster, and produced by Jackson
58:10
McLennan. Amanda's blog
58:12
posts are read by actor Kendall Horne.
58:16
Peggy, Amanda's mom, is read
58:18
by actor Jill Marie Hoffman. Edit
58:21
and theme music by Nico Pilella. Assistant
58:24
producer Casey Hertz. Assistant
58:26
editor Sima Greywall. Additional
58:30
production support from Stephen Slaton,
58:32
Will Hagel and Nicole
58:33
Urban.
58:36
Executive produced by me, Charlie Webster
58:39
and Nancy Moscatello. Scamander
58:42
is a Lionsgate Sound production engineered
58:44
by Pilgrim Media Group.
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