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Chapter 6 — High As Hell

Chapter 6 — High As Hell

Released Monday, 12th June 2023
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Chapter 6 — High As Hell

Chapter 6 — High As Hell

Chapter 6 — High As Hell

Chapter 6 — High As Hell

Monday, 12th June 2023
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0:02

Amanda's journey so far has

0:04

been more than four years long, with

0:06

more than four cancer relapses. Most

0:09

people were as supportive as they could

0:11

be, donating gift cards, classes,

0:14

time, babysitting, tips,

0:16

and cold hard cash. But

0:19

not everyone was on board the Support Amanda

0:21

train. You really learn

0:23

who's there for you when you have nothing else to give. Although

0:26

it hurt when some friends and even family

0:29

haven't really shown support, the

0:31

amount of people

0:32

following and back my story

0:34

is something I couldn't have even fathomed before

0:36

cancer. Thank you. You

0:39

are hashtag Team Amanda. Amanda's

0:42

blogs had gotten into the head of investigative

0:44

producer Nancy,

0:46

and she just couldn't let it go, even

0:49

as those close to her became concerned about

0:51

how obsessed she was. Nancy

0:53

wasn't the only one who was suspicious, though.

0:56

Detective Martinez of San Jose Police

0:59

joined the slowly growing Team Nancy.

1:02

I was talking to Amanda. Her

1:05

response was not consistent

1:07

with what was happening. It

1:09

was fake concern, like, oh my God,

1:12

are the kids

1:13

going to make it to school? Okay. Amanda

1:17

had found out about Nancy, and

1:19

she wasn't going to let some faceless investigative

1:22

producer ruin her life from the comfort

1:24

of a laptop. I was getting the mail out of my

1:26

mailbox, and I opened it up, and it's just

1:29

stuffed with paper.

1:30

I'm looking through it, and I'm like, what

1:32

is this? And I see the name Amanda

1:35

Riley. I see Nancy Muscatello.

1:37

I'm like, what is this? I

1:40

see restraining order, civil

1:42

harassment, and my mind is

1:44

catching up to what I'm reading and putting it together

1:46

like, oh my God. She was taking

1:48

me to court for a restraining

1:51

order. Amanda had some good

1:53

news. She was going back to full-time

1:55

work for the first time in four years.

1:58

I'm happy to announce

2:01

that this Monday, I'm a middle

2:03

school teacher.

2:05

And she wasn't going to let Nancy get in the way

2:07

of it. I'm

2:20

Charlie Webster. You're

2:22

listening to Scamander. I'm

2:31

a middle school teacher. I'm a middle school

2:33

teacher. I'm a middle school teacher. I'm

2:36

a middle school teacher. I'm a middle

2:38

school teacher. There

2:42

was somebody else questioning Amanda

2:45

in her very own home. When

2:48

I lived with my dad, I just kind of

2:50

had to follow everything

2:53

they did. I had to be

2:55

perfect. I remember Amanda

2:57

saying she was in pain. She just didn't feel good.

3:00

She would stay in her bed all day. She couldn't get out of

3:03

bed. What

3:05

would you do? Go to school, handle

3:07

all my responsibilities and all my after-school

3:10

stuff. I

3:12

took a big part in taking care

3:15

of my little brothers too at home. I was a middle school

3:17

teacher. I was a middle school teacher.

3:20

I was a middle school teacher. And

3:22

taking care of my little brothers too at

3:24

home. What else did you have to do?

3:28

Most of my job

3:31

as their babysitter was just

3:34

being there with them. From the time I got

3:36

home from school to the time I had to go

3:38

to sleep. And I was the one

3:40

there with them all the time. Amanda was

3:42

always upstairs in her bed. My

3:45

dad was always doing something

3:47

else working out. I don't know what he was

3:49

doing. I was the one

3:52

taking care of them most of the time.

3:54

It was really

3:56

stressful. They'd always

3:59

put a lot of pressure on me to

4:02

exceed in school and do really

4:04

well with my athletic activities and everything. And then

4:06

I had to come home and take care of the kids. And it

4:09

was a lot of pressure. It was a lot

4:11

of pressure. After finding

4:13

the IV in her brother's room, Jessa

4:16

started to put two and two together. I

4:19

told my mom about the IV thing

4:21

and I told her, I don't see Amanda like

4:23

go to appointments anymore. My dad doesn't go to appointments

4:26

with her anymore. I don't even know where she goes.

4:29

And my

4:31

mom then

4:33

told me that there was an investigation

4:35

going on

4:36

and that Amanda didn't

4:39

have cancer. When

4:41

she sat down and she told me, why

4:44

did I find the IV? I found an IV when

4:46

she was talking about the IV. And then she started asking me about

4:49

her dad not going to chemo appointments.

4:52

Basically, this kid was telling me things aren't adding

4:54

up, right? So I had

4:57

to tell her. Why didn't

4:59

you tell her before? I

5:02

guess to

5:04

try to protect her as long as possible.

5:08

The kid was just too damn smart. She

5:12

knew. She put it together

5:14

fairly quickly. I really didn't have to keep it from her very

5:16

long. At the same time, it was

5:18

still an investigation, even though I knew it was true.

5:20

I needed proof to prove

5:22

anything in court, right? But

5:25

even though we had people

5:27

for the court system to talk to and the people

5:29

in the court system to talk to, they still didn't do anything. What

5:32

was it like for you to hear that? It

5:35

was really hard. It was life-changing.

5:41

I believed for so many years that she was sick. I've

5:43

been told that she didn't have that long to live. My

5:47

emotions were just toyed with, pretty much.

5:51

She was fooling all those people.

5:55

And then having to go back home with my

5:57

dad and just kind of sit there knowing.

6:00

that that was going on was

6:02

really hard. My

6:04

mom had, I think it

6:07

was weekly visitation, and

6:09

we had like two hours in a parking lot somewhere

6:12

to sit in the car and talk. So

6:14

I lived with my dad and Amanda for quite a while

6:17

knowing that she didn't have cancer. I

6:20

wasn't able to do anything, but

6:24

it felt like

6:26

me and my family were living a lie because

6:29

it seemed that everything was based

6:31

around Amanda being sick. And

6:35

that's how we were getting our money and our food and

6:37

our Christmas gifts and my

6:39

gymnastics lessons, my tennis

6:42

lessons, everything like that. Everything

6:44

that was going on in our life was based around

6:46

Amanda's cancer.

6:48

What do you mean by your gymnastic lessons

6:51

and your tennis lessons? The

6:53

instructors, I guess, felt

6:55

sorry and donated those lessons to me.

7:00

Did you ever feel like sending anything to your dad? I

7:03

knew I couldn't. I

7:05

knew that not only would

7:07

it cause a lot of problems for me, but I knew

7:09

I probably wouldn't be able to see my mom anymore.

7:12

I knew he'd take it to court and say, she's

7:15

telling Jess all these horrible things, and I didn't

7:17

want that. What

7:19

was your dad like during that time?

7:22

I don't know how to describe it. He

7:25

was very,

7:28

I want to say not himself, but

7:30

I don't think I really know

7:33

who he actually is as a person. He

7:36

just kind of looked numb

7:38

all the time.

7:40

He knew

7:40

he was doing something wrong.

7:45

What was his behavior like? He

7:47

was always taking us everywhere. He was always going

7:49

to the gym.

7:52

With my dad, he'd always just kind of be like, oh,

7:54

you know, Mandy's sick and we can't

7:56

do this. It

7:59

kind of was. I was with Amanda. Oh,

8:02

I can't because I'm sick. I can't

8:04

do this, I can't do that, I'm sick. She

8:08

always tries to put on a nice face

8:11

in front of me. I

8:13

think it's part of her trying to win

8:17

my trust back or try

8:19

to make me feel sorry for her. And

8:21

I never did. I see

8:23

right through who she is and it wasn't

8:26

gonna happen. It

8:28

would take us to the hospital

8:29

almost to kind of prove

8:33

that, oh, something's wrong with her.

8:38

Low blood pressure, low blood counts, fainting,

8:41

fevers, illness, pick line infections,

8:43

mimicking heart attacks and everything

8:46

else you can think of.

8:47

Five hospital stays and 32

8:50

doctor's appointments slash lab visits this

8:52

month alone.

8:55

I just remember hearing that, oh, Amanda's

8:58

really, really sick this time and

9:00

she's gonna have like a big surgery or she had

9:02

a big surgery. My dad was like,

9:04

yeah, we should go to the hospital and you guys can

9:07

come visit her. So we did. It

9:09

was really strange for me because I knew she didn't

9:12

have cancer. I'm like, what are you telling the doctors?

9:15

Like, what's the reason you're here? You know what I mean?

9:18

Jessa had said, she was really

9:20

upset and she asked me if she

9:23

was going to get in trouble because

9:26

she felt like because she was getting, you know,

9:29

free this and free that. I

9:32

mean, she thought she was gonna get in

9:34

trouble at one point and I said, no, absolutely

9:37

not. This is not because of you. This

9:39

is because of what Amanda did. What

9:42

Amanda was doing was getting the attention

9:44

of Detective Martinez from the San Jose

9:46

Police Department.

9:49

I started talking to Amanda's attorney

9:52

and I ended up getting on the phone with him.

9:55

And I said, this is a real

9:57

simple case. It's so simple.

10:00

It's simple that it's complex. All

10:02

I need to know is, does she or

10:04

does she not have cancer? Do

10:08

you know? He said,

10:10

well, she told me she had cancer and you've seen

10:12

all of her social media. I said, again,

10:15

do you know? And so

10:17

that's when Days following,

10:19

he showed up to the police

10:22

department with a note

10:24

from the doctor saying

10:27

it's something with the fact that she was in remission

10:29

or cancer. It

10:32

was something specific because it's a doctor and

10:34

now it's a hospital name. And so

10:37

I thought, this is easy. I'm going

10:39

to contact the hospital.

10:43

They actually have an investigative division

10:45

in there.

10:47

A lot of them are retired FBI

10:49

directors. So I

10:51

had to give this whole case spiel again. And

10:54

they weren't a hundred percent

10:56

cooperative. They were kind of like, well, we'll

10:58

accept your information but we can't share with you

11:00

what we're doing or what direction

11:02

we're going to go in with this. Okay,

11:05

but I just need to know whether or not this doctor

11:07

knows

11:08

that their name is attached to

11:11

this communication and this is him

11:13

that made this statement. Can't you

11:15

just say that? So

11:18

then, you know, I send that down the rabbit hole.

11:20

Detective Martinez showed us a letter

11:23

with the doctor's header and signature, stating

11:25

that his patient, Amanda C. Riley, was

11:27

in remission from cancer.

11:29

Having cases, it's kind

11:31

of like, you know, the person in the circus that has

11:33

all the little sticks and they're spinning the plates

11:36

on all the sticks and they're holding two in

11:38

their hands and one on their nose and one on their

11:40

head and they just keep spinning the plates before

11:43

the plate wobbles off and falls off. That's

11:45

what you're doing all day. You just keep spinning the plates.

11:47

I just keep giving a little turn and keep it rolling.

11:50

And so that was another little plate spin for me.

11:53

I'll see what comes back from this. So

11:56

I sent that one down the line. Then

11:58

I got back

11:59

on the horse.

12:00

calling people again. As

12:03

the blog continued and the information

12:05

was continuing to come in, Nancy was sharing

12:08

with me, oh, she blogged again. She

12:10

was here or she was there, she was

12:12

on these dates or whatever. I

12:14

said, okay, I'm going

12:16

to follow up with all these little pieces. That's

12:19

what sent me down to the

12:22

first break in the case.

12:26

I remember thinking, Detective

12:30

Martinez spoke to her. My God, this

12:32

is great. She's going to stop because I really

12:34

at that point, I just wanted her to

12:36

stop. It was really hard to look at what she was

12:38

doing. And I

12:40

just thought, oh, she's going to stop. This

12:43

is great. She's going to shoot

12:45

her pants and a detective

12:48

from the police department. She's now

12:50

in contact with, it's going to stop.

12:53

He was like, no, Nancy, she's

12:55

in too deep. I was like, no, no, I would stop.

12:58

I assumed this would be enough

13:00

to kind of go, okay, we're done here. I

13:03

feel like I could sleep better. And

13:06

it was pretty soon after they

13:08

were going back and forth that I think

13:11

to me, she took the biggest leap of

13:14

claiming she was self-injecting chemotherapy.

13:17

One more blood test which cleared

13:19

me to fly home. My doctor so

13:22

graciously is going to let me self-inject

13:25

my next round of chemo. Um,

13:28

yikes. When I read that,

13:30

I

13:31

just remember like yelling

13:34

something out like you've got to be fucking kidding

13:36

me. Like, first of all, this is so ridiculous

13:38

that there's so many things wrong with

13:41

that. It's like no one's injecting

13:43

chemo therapy. Have you ever known anybody to inject chemotherapy

13:45

at their house? I mean, how much bolder

13:47

could you get? And I just said,

13:49

whoop, okay, she's going all the way. While

13:52

it sounded ridiculous to Nancy that someone

13:54

could self-inject chemo at home, it

13:56

turns out that it is possible to self-inject

13:59

chemo.

14:00

I was calling to all

14:03

these hospitals and I thought, I'm

14:05

getting the same conversation with

14:07

everybody. I would call in and

14:10

I would talk to like a CEO or somebody

14:12

in the

14:12

upper management. And

14:15

I thought, I'm going to change my formula here. I'm going

14:17

to

14:17

ask for a legal department. So

14:20

City of Hope in Southern

14:22

California put me

14:24

through to their legal department. In

14:27

her blog, City of Hope was really

14:30

crucial. She talked about it a lot. She

14:33

had been seen by them because she was going

14:35

to get a stem cell transplant

14:37

there. So she had blogged about how she was

14:39

going to be in that hospital for three

14:41

or four months. That she had all her

14:43

pre visits and in

14:46

other documentation, Corey and

14:48

her wrote to the ex-wife,

14:50

Alita, and said, We're moving to Southern

14:52

California because she's getting stem cell

14:55

treatment at City of Hope. In

14:58

cancer patients that have already done several

15:00

rounds of chemotherapy and the cancer still

15:02

persists, a stem cell transplant

15:04

can be used as a way for doctors

15:06

to give higher doses of radiation therapy

15:09

or chemo. City of Hope

15:11

is one of the world's largest and most

15:13

successful stem cell transplant centers.

15:16

Detective

15:16

Martinez was hoping to get some information

15:19

in a phone call to City of Hope. I

15:21

said, okay, here we go. I got

15:24

maybe three minutes to sell this thing to

15:26

somebody who's going to bite.

15:28

By that time, I had told a story so many

15:30

times that I had refined it

15:33

down to this three minute presentation.

15:36

So finally somebody gets

15:39

on the line from the legal department. I

15:42

said before you hang up because I've

15:44

had a number of conversations with

15:47

so many organizations.

15:49

Just listen to me for just a minute. Hear

15:51

me out and then you can make a decision. But

15:54

hear me first. Let us sink in

15:56

for just a second. And so

15:58

I gave him the phone call. this little quick

16:01

spiel. There's this young lady, she's

16:03

been saying she has cancer,

16:05

she's been blogging, she's

16:07

been collecting money from sites

16:10

and

16:11

going around across the states and

16:13

still selling this whole thing. I said, now,

16:16

she may very well be sick, but she

16:19

cited your hospital as one of her stops.

16:23

Stem cell and platelet harvesting has

16:25

been scheduled. Finally, one

16:28

in February and one in March. With

16:31

City of Hope's research and technology, they

16:34

can gather the stem cells with

16:36

a low sedative and a machine rather

16:39

than having to penetrate my hip bones

16:41

for the marrow, which is incredible.

16:45

Insurance has signed the dotted line, finally.

16:48

One of the places she stayed here, this

16:51

is the doctor she said, this is the medication

16:53

she said she was given. I said, so

16:55

this is not HIPAA, because if

16:58

she's not a patient here, then

17:00

there's no confidentiality. You're

17:02

just saying yes or no. What's

17:05

the liability? And if you're just saying yes or no.

17:08

So I said, if you want, take a look at

17:10

the blog or I could send you a quick snippet

17:12

of it in an email. And

17:14

it's not something that I put out, it's something she put

17:16

out. So I'm just asking

17:19

you to say yes or no. She

17:22

was a patient or she wasn't, how hard is that?

17:25

And if you say, if you give me the

17:27

truth,

17:28

then I can pursue the truth, right?

17:30

And I can get to the bottom of this. And if

17:32

she's really faking, then I can

17:35

pursue the truth from another end and

17:37

maybe take this girl off the set so

17:39

that she's not redirecting

17:42

monies and services and resources

17:45

that should go to somebody who truly has this illness.

17:47

According to Amanda's mom, Peggy,

17:49

the City of Hope procedure was a success.

17:53

She sent an email around to friends and family

17:56

to let them know and thank them for their help covering the costs.

17:58

Friends and family,

18:01

Amanda is doing well. City

18:04

of Hope successfully harvested

18:07

some of her stem cells. She

18:09

is tough and the family is committed

18:11

to doing whatever it takes. Response

18:14

to supportamanda.com the past six

18:16

months has been a huge help in

18:19

covering the costs of her co-pays,

18:21

prescriptions, and deductibles. Thank

18:24

you all and

18:25

please revisit as you can.

18:29

Detective Martinez was waiting for a call

18:32

back from City of Hope to confirm

18:34

Amanda was a patient there.

18:35

I sent them the blog that

18:37

Nancy had sent me. They took

18:39

a while to get back to me, like a week. So they gave

18:42

me an email

18:43

basically saying, no, she's

18:45

not a patient, she's never been a patient. And

18:50

that was from their legal department. And I got

18:53

chills because I was like,

18:55

finally. After

18:58

all these calls or all these emails, this

19:00

phone conversation, I

19:03

have her. I know

19:05

she's a fraudster now.

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19:56

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19:58

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20:00

year or Palm Springs.

20:15

This was the piece of information that

20:17

Detective Martinez felt he needed.

20:20

But now he had to figure out what to do with it.

20:23

While Amanda may not have been a patient

20:25

at City of Hope, it didn't mean

20:27

she didn't have cancer. Martinez

20:30

needed something more than just an email

20:32

from a hospital's legal department.

20:34

You have to settle to a district

20:36

attorney for them to bite

20:38

into it and go, okay, well, you

20:40

know, they're the ones who have to present this thing in court.

20:43

They want to feel confident. I'm

20:45

not giving them something that, you

20:47

know, it's going to get in court and it's going to fall

20:49

apart like an eggshell.

20:51

I'm a California officer. As

20:53

long as that business does business in California

20:55

and San Jose, the connection, the

20:57

nexus to where I'm at, then I

21:00

could reach for it. But

21:02

she was doing stuff on the East Coast and

21:04

then that put me out of reach and I wasn't sure

21:06

what she was doing over there and

21:09

everywhere in between. If

21:11

my only goal is to just

21:15

get a charge on her, I could

21:17

get a local charge, but if she's doing something federal,

21:20

whole different ballgame.

21:24

In the months that I was communicating with

21:26

Detective Martinez, I

21:28

handed over the information I had. He was

21:31

knee deep in his investigation. He was

21:33

able to talk with Amanda. He was able to

21:36

verify a lot of the information I gave him,

21:39

reached out to medical facilities. So he

21:42

was working the case his way and could

21:45

only take it so far. It

21:47

just was frustrating to me to be in this holding

21:50

cycle of, okay, what's going to

21:52

happen? What's next? When's the arrest?

21:54

All these things. And I think

21:56

in the end, it just got really frustrating

21:59

for the both of us.

22:01

So I thought about old

22:03

cases and I thought, well, how component

22:06

did you get taken down for all the, you know,

22:09

murder and bootleg or

22:12

prohibition stuff? Yeah, taken

22:14

down from the IRS. And

22:17

I thought, well, she is getting monies

22:20

from all this, from who knows, from

22:23

wherever, right? Because you're on the internet. The

22:25

internet is worldwide.

22:26

I had spoken with my father-in-law

22:29

in regards to Amanda's

22:32

case because he was a retired IRS

22:34

agent. And, you know, just talking

22:36

through it with him, he said, well, you know,

22:39

you should contact the IRS because that's wire

22:41

fraud. He explained why,

22:44

he explained what her actions

22:46

meant in the world of federal

22:49

felony charges. And he said, you know, that's wire

22:51

fraud. You should call the

22:53

IRS.

22:53

That's exactly what I did.

22:57

I had met Arlotte Lee,

23:00

the IRS investigator in

23:02

an investigative school. So

23:05

she invited me to come down to the office

23:07

in San Jose. She

23:10

heard the whole thing out and then we had this

23:12

conversation. And then like, here we

23:14

are. What do you think? And

23:18

I was surprised. I was like, yeah, I

23:20

like it. I want to go with it. Sounds good.

23:22

Because they had no cases like it

23:24

before. An IRS cancer

23:26

scam.

23:29

My name is Arlotte Lee. I'm an

23:31

IRS special agent. One of our things

23:33

we do is it's financial crimes, primarily

23:36

tax, but any

23:38

sort of a financial crime where there's fraud

23:41

involved. The appeal to me

23:43

was there was money being obtained

23:46

fraudulently. So that's just, that's right

23:48

up our alley with all kinds of financial

23:50

crimes, whether it's investment fraud or

23:53

any other type of financial crime. And this was

23:55

no different except the

23:58

draw was really wanting

23:59

to

23:59

no, okay, she's pretending

24:02

to have cancer, telling people she has cancer,

24:04

she's getting donations. And

24:07

for myself, I'm like, well, I

24:09

want to find out if she does or not. It's just

24:11

human nature.

24:12

Then you have that financial

24:15

aspect where she is getting money under

24:17

false pretenses. And so

24:19

I was able to join the case assisting

24:22

with Detective Martinez from the San Jose

24:24

Police Department. And so that's kind of

24:27

how it started.

24:29

Despite the now federal investigation

24:31

into Amanda,

24:33

she kept posting. Every

24:35

time I have to go to New York, especially

24:38

so close together, it's panic time.

24:41

And posting. A family from church

24:43

reached out on Thanksgiving and decided

24:46

they wanted to pay for my trial drug,

24:48

all $1,350 of it. And

24:52

posting. Then beautiful Cafero

24:54

family graciously used their points to

24:57

get me to and from no questions asked

24:59

on top of being our most consistent generous donors.

25:03

So this trip cost our family

25:05

nothing. Thanking people

25:07

for their generous donations. We had

25:09

another family offer to pay my next

25:11

chemo medication in two weeks. I

25:14

can't even tell you what it feels like to

25:16

not feel any monetary stress for this trip or

25:18

the next. We feel very blessed. And

25:21

she was posting pictures alongside. Self

25:24

is in hospital, her bruised

25:26

arms from all the needles

25:28

and the medication that she was now self injecting.

25:31

We are officially to immunotherapy

25:33

contruded injections down. I

25:36

thought giving myself injections would be a lot

25:38

scarier than it was. It was

25:40

actually really easy and relatively pain-free

25:42

using my pick line. She

25:45

was posing with a needle and

25:47

medications and talking about these

25:49

are the medications and I'm gonna

25:52

be able to do this at home.

25:53

I mean, a clinical trial is so specific and

25:57

you have to be at a hospital. That's

26:00

the whole idea.

26:02

But she's special, and she's allowed

26:04

to do it at home now.

26:06

It is absurd. When

26:09

I started to fact check

26:12

what was in Amanda's blog in regards

26:14

to her treatments in New York

26:15

and the drugs, you know, the clinical trials

26:18

she was involved with, I knew I

26:20

couldn't call up and say, oh, tell me all about Amanda

26:22

Riley and her treatment. Like, it doesn't, you can't do that,

26:24

right? So I had to come up

26:26

with a way to ask the questions

26:29

that were

26:30

very broad.

26:33

I had reached out to that oncology department,

26:35

right? I introduced myself. I

26:38

told them who I was

26:40

and what I was investigating, and I sent

26:42

them

26:43

the blog. So

26:46

they saw the blog. They saw what Amanda

26:48

was claiming to be treated there, and

26:51

they didn't like what they saw, and they were really

26:53

concerned.

26:54

And then about a week later, you know,

26:57

they got back to me and said, well,

27:00

we can't talk to you about

27:01

any of our patients or any one in

27:03

particular, but we

27:05

would like to answer whatever questions you may have. I

27:09

started going through the blog methodically with

27:11

each trip to New York, and I said, on this date, and I would

27:13

give the date, did

27:16

you have the start of a new clinical

27:18

trial

27:18

for the drug Ktruda? And

27:21

they would say, no, we did not

27:24

have a trial start that week. And

27:27

I

27:27

would call back each time, very specific. I quoted

27:30

everything from her blog. On this

27:32

date, did you have a patient

27:34

receive Ktruda and have a lung

27:36

collapse? On this date, from

27:38

this medication? No, we did not.

27:41

On this date,

27:43

did you have a patient

27:46

break out in hives and needed mega

27:48

doses of Benadryl because of such a severe

27:51

reaction to the drug

27:52

Ktruda? No. Not

27:54

only was it a no, but

27:57

I would say 90% of the time it was. don't

28:00

have a current trial of Catruda

28:03

going right now. Clinical trials

28:05

have regulated, it's very specific. There's

28:08

start dates and there's end dates.

28:10

Amanda's

28:10

treatment did not fit into

28:13

any of that protocol.

28:14

So I knew, I knew she wasn't

28:17

being treated there and I knew the facts

28:20

made no sense.

28:23

Amanda

28:23

was claiming to be allowed

28:26

to self inject Catruda

28:29

at home. What she

28:31

was claiming was it was holiday

28:33

time. It was gonna be, she was supposed to go back for

28:35

another round of Catruda. It was

28:37

Thanksgiving and she put in

28:40

her blog, oh, isn't this great? My

28:42

oncologist wants me to be able to enjoy the holidays

28:44

at home so he is allowing me to

28:47

self inject

28:48

basically in the comforts

28:49

of my own home. So

28:52

I called and I said, do

28:55

you allow any

28:56

of the drugs to be shipped,

28:58

to be used in the comfort of somebody's

29:00

home if they're in a clinical trial? They

29:02

didn't even know what to say there. First they was like,

29:04

no, absolutely not. And I said, well, explain.

29:07

I asked them to explain the process of giving

29:09

someone

29:09

the drug Catruda. And

29:12

I was told Catruda is stored

29:15

at below freezing temperatures, it has

29:17

to be reconstituted in a

29:19

ventilated pharmacy. It then

29:21

has to be given in an IV

29:24

form added to another solution.

29:27

So it's a multi-step process

29:29

in very, very restricted

29:33

areas where there's proper ventilation

29:35

and that it's made into an IV. You know,

29:37

when Amanda was claiming to just be, you know, shooting

29:40

it up herself at home in the bathroom,

29:41

she was showing pictures of herself

29:44

with the needle up in the air. Amanda

29:46

Riley was not in a clinical trial.

29:49

Amanda Riley was surely not

29:52

injecting chemotherapy at home. It

29:54

was just that simple. The

29:57

drug Catruda is given through an IV

29:59

line. over a 30-minute period, and

30:02

treatments usually take place at a doctor's

30:04

office or an infusion clinic.

30:10

Nancy's investigation may have began

30:12

quietly, but she was starting

30:14

to show her hand, and Amanda

30:16

was not having any of it. Nancy

30:19

came home one day to a stack of papers

30:21

stuffed in her mailbox. Amanda

30:25

was serving her with a civil harassment

30:27

restraining order. My

30:30

initial reaction when I got the papers was,

30:32

okay, I got to talk to an attorney. This

30:34

was on a Friday. The paperwork

30:37

said I was due in court on Tuesday morning,

30:40

and Monday was a court holiday, so there was no

30:42

one I could contact at the courts

30:44

in between. I called the attorney. They

30:46

said, were you physically served? I said, no. No

30:50

one handed me papers. They were stuffed in my mailbox. And

30:52

they said, well, you weren't legally served. You don't

30:54

have to appear if you weren't

30:55

legally served. Whoever

30:58

was supposed to serve me was paid

31:00

to come to Southern California

31:03

and hand me papers.

31:04

You

31:06

have to be physically served the papers,

31:08

because the person serving you is acknowledging

31:11

that they served the proper person and

31:13

that

31:14

the person receiving the papers is Nancy Muscatello.

31:17

So

31:18

putting them in a random mailbox doesn't

31:20

mean Nancy Muscatello was served. It means a mailbox

31:22

was served. So

31:24

what should have happened is

31:26

when I came home from work, a

31:29

person would have approached me and said, are

31:31

you Nancy Muscatello? And I probably would have turned

31:33

to yes, why? And they would have handed me and said,

31:35

you've been served and handed me the

31:38

paperwork. That is how you serve

31:40

someone.

31:42

I would have had to have been in

31:44

San Jose, California Tuesday

31:46

morning by 8 a.m. And I live in Los Angeles,

31:49

which is a five-hour drive. So

31:51

I

31:52

knew, like, I needed answers and I needed to know what

31:54

to do.

31:55

Did I need to get up to San Jose or not? It's

31:57

a five-hour drive.

32:00

holiday weekend and I

32:02

was told, you know, you don't need to be there. What

32:06

were you being accused of? I

32:08

was being accused of harassment,

32:11

civil harassment. So she wanted, Amanda Riley

32:13

wanted a restraining order

32:15

to stop me from contacting

32:18

family, contacting work,

32:21

not only for her, but for her husband, Corey,

32:24

and to have basically no contact

32:26

with anyone

32:27

involved in their lives. One

32:29

of the things she wanted me to be restrained

32:32

from doing was contacting family members.

32:34

She said I had reached out many

32:37

times and contacted family members,

32:39

which just was not true.

32:41

She said that I got her

32:43

fired from one of her jobs. That

32:46

just was not true. She said I got her

32:48

husband fired from one of his jobs.

32:52

Again, that just wasn't true. That

32:55

I took on different personas

32:58

and were posting things online

33:01

about her. Again, that

33:03

just wasn't true.

33:05

Nancy, I've got the definition of civil

33:07

harassment here. It says civil harassment

33:09

is abuse, threats of abuse, stalking, sexual

33:11

assaults, or serious harassment by someone

33:13

you have not dated and do not have a close relationship

33:16

with. Then there's the civil harassment laws,

33:18

which is specific to California. It

33:20

says harassment is unlawful violence

33:22

like assault or battery or stalking or

33:25

a credible real threat of violence and

33:27

the violence or threat seriously scare, annoy,

33:29

or harass someone and there is no valid

33:31

reason for it. Do you think in any

33:34

way she

33:35

had a case because she

33:37

felt

33:38

that it was harassing

33:40

to her and it was annoying

33:43

to her? I mean, I don't think

33:45

Amanda Riley had a leg to stand on. I

33:47

mean, I didn't contact her.

33:50

I didn't

33:51

threaten her. I didn't reach

33:54

out in any way that wasn't extremely

33:57

professional and what any

33:59

journalists would do. You know, I would

34:02

say Amanda

34:03

Riley felt

34:06

seriously harassed or annoyed about

34:08

being caught

34:09

or about being called

34:11

out or about being questioned because

34:14

none of my actions were threatening,

34:17

violent, anything

34:19

that I would say, you know,

34:21

was out of line. How did you

34:24

feel that she was taking you to court?

34:26

I was concerned for

34:29

my reputation and the work

34:31

that I do and having repercussions

34:34

from this because it's important

34:37

that

34:37

I follow

34:39

a code of ethics that I, you know, I

34:41

feel are really important. And so when someone calls

34:44

up to question, it's really

34:46

important to defend myself and to hold true

34:49

to how I do things.

34:53

I knew what Amanda Riley was

34:55

capable of and I knew she

34:58

would not hesitate to use manipulation

35:01

and lies to stop me.

35:07

I see the little

35:09

shred of truth that Amanda used to

35:12

then exaggerate, change,

35:15

and depict me as some

35:17

out of control person.

35:24

But yeah, you know, when you have a detective order,

35:27

it's serious. I mean, that's something that's on your record. So

35:31

that wasn't a good feeling at all. And

35:35

as a journalist, as someone that works in

35:38

news, like

35:39

a restraining order for what, like,

35:41

that's really detrimental. She

35:44

essentially was able to get a judge to restrain

35:47

the press.

35:54

Despite the threat to Nancy's reputation,

35:57

a pending restraining order, not

36:00

only by her friends, but her husband

36:02

and daughter. She was in so

36:04

deep that she couldn't let it go.

36:07

It was impossible to resist contacting

36:09

IRS Special Agent Arlette

36:11

Lee. I reached out. I

36:13

said, I don't want to come across nuts like writing

36:16

all this out, but I sent anything I could show

36:19

the back and forth of what Amanda was saying

36:21

and doing.

36:24

And I said,

36:25

just look at the stuff I've done. I had

36:27

meticulous logs of all my phone calls

36:30

to the different doctors and the different places that

36:32

I was trying to keep an order.

36:34

Said, have a look at that. Have a look at the blog.

36:38

Here's my source agreed

36:40

to speak to federal agents also,

36:43

if need be. I sent

36:45

over everything digitally and just said, just

36:48

look at it.

36:49

And then let's go from there. And then you

36:51

ask me whatever you want. I can kind

36:53

of give because this is a lot to take in. And

36:56

so months went by. I didn't hear anything.

36:58

I would periodically,

37:00

when I would come across someone new or found

37:03

new information, I would send it.

37:06

It took a few months until I actually

37:08

heard back from

37:09

Arlette. One

37:11

of the first things she said, and I know the feeling, she

37:14

said, you know, my sister has

37:16

cancer and it's not good. And

37:19

so when I finally sat down and looked

37:21

at everything you sent, I

37:24

could not believe somebody

37:26

could do this. And I

37:29

want to take this case on and see what I can do. And

37:32

I knew she couldn't tell me much. She explained that

37:35

they have to go in front of her grand jury. She explained

37:37

to me once that happened, you

37:39

can send people my way. You could, if

37:41

you would want, if they want to talk to me, give

37:44

them my number, but I can't let

37:46

you know what's going on. And I said, that's

37:48

fine. I said, you just

37:51

have to trust that

37:51

I'm working. We're working

37:54

on it.

38:01

When Nancy started telling me

38:03

about, we were on the phone, and she

38:05

was telling me about what they

38:08

thought Amanda Riley was doing, I

38:11

just felt my heart, like

38:13

my throat got really tight, and

38:18

I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I

38:21

also felt a sense sort of guilty.

38:24

I thought, how could somebody who's

38:26

doing this, how could I be looking at somebody

38:28

like this? Because a lot of times people

38:30

will come

38:31

and say, oh, this person is doing this,

38:34

that, or the other thing, and it may

38:36

not necessarily be 100% true.

38:39

I felt nervous looking at this

38:42

case. Was

38:44

I making the right decision to look

38:47

at it? But my job is

38:49

to look at the facts, so I got information.

38:52

I need to figure out whether or not crime's

38:54

been committed.

38:57

After talking to Detective Martinez, I knew,

39:00

okay, there's really, there's something

39:02

there, and so then it was at that

39:04

point, okay, I need to talk

39:06

to the U.S. Attorney's Office to see if we can

39:09

look at this further, because I think

39:11

Detective Martinez was limited in

39:13

what he could get at that point in the

39:16

investigation.

39:16

There was

39:19

enough information, enough public

39:21

record, because you have these posts,

39:24

to show that

39:25

something doesn't add up.

39:27

And so that's when I

39:29

decided, okay, let me look at this closer.

39:32

As much as we might like to think it could be,

39:35

lying isn't illegal. Investigators

39:39

have to sift through the web of lies and

39:41

find evidence of what actual crime

39:43

is being committed.

39:45

In this case, there was a paper trail

39:47

of donations coming in online. Wire

39:51

fraud is when there's some fraudulent

39:53

statement. There's something that

39:55

leads people to give

39:57

you, send you money through the wires. And

40:00

in this particular case, she's saying

40:03

that she has cancer. People are

40:05

sending her money, and then the money goes through

40:07

her bank accounts. And so wire

40:09

fraud is pretty much using the wires

40:12

to get money under false pretenses.

40:16

The way our cases work is we work up the investigation,

40:19

we get all of our evidence, and then we present it to

40:22

the U.S. Attorney's Office for prosecution. And

40:25

so sometimes it

40:27

just takes longer. I think a

40:29

lot of the witnesses, and including Nancy,

40:31

would call and say, what's going on?

40:33

And I'm like,

40:34

I haven't given up. I'm

40:36

still working on this, but the wheels of justice

40:39

sometimes just move slowly. When

40:43

there's

40:43

indications of fraud

40:45

with medical records, we are able

40:48

to subpoena those records.

40:51

Criminal investigators can get

40:53

access to those records via subpoena. Can

40:56

you tell us about those medical records?

40:59

There were a lot of records because

41:01

it covered a long period of time. But

41:04

as far as what was in the records, I wouldn't

41:07

be able to discuss that. But

41:09

there were a lot of medical records. Does

41:11

a lot mean a small

41:14

pile, or does a lot mean you can fill

41:16

a room with folders? It's

41:18

all electronic. So I mean,

41:21

I would look at it in piece

41:23

fill as I would get it. But

41:25

thousands and thousands of pages.

41:29

So there were a lot of records to go through. How

41:32

much did her blog actually help you? It

41:35

was very helpful because it did. If

41:37

she said she was going to be at City of Hope or

41:40

she was going to be at Columbia, then that's where

41:42

we went.

41:46

Agent

41:46

Lee and I didn't really talk that

41:48

much after that. If

41:50

there was some information or a person I came across

41:53

that I thought she needed to know about, I would email

41:55

her or direct that person to reach out to her. I wasn't

41:58

privy to what was going on.

41:59

in the investigation, and then

42:02

I got a tip that they were going

42:04

to be serving a search warrant on

42:07

Amanda and

42:07

Corey Riley's home. And

42:09

it was at that point that I knew it was an active

42:12

and open case. Nancy

42:15

actually went to the raid with her reporter friend

42:17

Anna Garcia. I'm Anna

42:20

Garcia and I'm a crime reporter.

42:23

Nancy got a tip that the authorities

42:26

were going to be serving a search

42:29

warrant on Amanda's

42:31

house. And usually

42:33

these things happen before the sun even

42:35

rises

42:36

because you want

42:38

to make sure that you catch everyone

42:41

when they're not expecting you for

42:43

a lot of reasons. Because

42:46

it makes sure that the people

42:49

who you're serving the search warrant on don't

42:51

have time to destroy evidence. So

42:54

when you catch them when they're kind of sleepy,

42:56

it's the ultimate

42:58

to preserve evidence. So

43:01

we got there several hours

43:04

before daylight and

43:06

there were three of us in the

43:08

car and we are parked

43:11

out of the way but yet still able

43:14

to see

43:16

Amanda's house. And

43:18

you know, in those early morning

43:20

hours when you're sitting in a car, you

43:22

are just talking about everything and just waiting.

43:26

And it never ceases

43:28

to surprise me how when the

43:30

raid goes down, it happens so

43:33

quickly even though you're sitting there

43:35

and waiting and prepared, that

43:38

all of a sudden it happens so fast that you're like scrambling

43:41

and you're jumping and everything's dropping

43:43

out of your lap as you're running out of

43:45

the car and running toward the

43:48

house

43:49

where this is happening. You're

43:52

always catching up even when you're there waiting.

43:56

And that's exactly what happened that morning.

44:00

We ran up there. The agents

44:02

were already through

44:05

the front yard at the front door with

44:07

a battering ram and banging

44:09

on the door and waking everyone up.

44:13

This is real audio of the house

44:15

raid. The voice you can hear

44:17

is Nancy's friend Anna describing what

44:19

is going on. Right now, it looks like the

44:21

IRS is going in with agents

44:24

to search the house. They're knocking on the door. They've

44:27

got a warrant. You can hear them. They're knocking on the door

44:30

and they're saying,

44:30

we've got a warrant. We did

44:32

a stakeout. When the feds

44:34

came, they came like before 6 a.m. in

44:37

the morning. It's

44:38

like everything you see on TV. They came

44:41

four or five big SUVs, the battering

44:43

ram, SWAT team. It

44:52

was easily 10 IRS agents armed. They

44:58

all jump out and

45:01

they split and go up the

45:03

side of the property over fences

45:05

around the back from what, you know,

45:07

the other group

45:08

did it the other way and then they

45:11

knock on the door and these

45:15

Yelv federal investigators open up. Let

45:18

us in. All right.

45:21

The cops are going over the fence. You've

45:23

got cops at the door banging,

45:26

screaming. Police.

45:27

We've got a search warrant. They are now

45:29

jumping over that fence. You can hear them. You can see

45:32

them. Flashlights everywhere.

45:35

Police, open up. Here

45:40

he is. Hey. Open the door. Open

45:42

the door. Open the door. Open the door. Police.

45:45

Police. OK. So there's somebody home

45:47

and they're telling them to open the door. All right.

45:49

If you guys don't open up, we're going to hit. We're going

45:51

to ram the door. Open up. Open up. I

45:55

mean, I couldn't believe it. Oh my God. This

45:57

is crazy looking because, you know, I'm. I'm

46:00

thinking, she's a mom of two, she's

46:02

a sweet little, this is what neighbors

46:04

know her as, right? And then this

46:07

pulls up and I had to keep reminding myself, like,

46:09

no, this is what happens when you do these things.

46:12

I saw them show

46:14

paperwork to Corey, like this is why we're here,

46:17

here's the documentation for us to come into your home.

46:21

I can't talk too much about that, but I'm not going

46:24

to deny there was a search warrant because the

46:26

media showed up, which is

46:29

not uncommon. And I know

46:31

that in this particular case,

46:34

Nancy was keeping an eye

46:37

on

46:38

everything that she could,

46:39

but I can't

46:41

talk about what happened at the search warrant, but

46:43

I'm not going to deny that there was

46:45

a search warrant. If I could have

46:47

your name, please, and what agency you represent.

46:50

Arlette Lee, I'm a special agent with IRS

46:52

Criminal Investigation. Can you tell us what

46:55

you're doing here? Really, the only thing I can tell

46:57

you at this point is that we are here on official business.

47:01

I don't have anything that's a matter of public record,

47:03

so at this time, I'm not able to provide

47:05

any details. Detective

47:08

Martinez was also at the raid.

47:10

I'm a detective with the San Jose Police

47:12

Department Financial Crimes Investigations.

47:16

This morning at this residence, the IRS

47:18

served a search warrant for

47:21

the residence here. Do you know what they were looking

47:23

for? It's pertaining

47:25

to a financial crime investigation, which is an open

47:27

investigation with the IRS at this time.

47:32

I'd been on a lot of search warrants, and

47:36

I knew that the IRS was going to have a full

47:38

team of their own people, because

47:41

now they're looking for very specific items that

47:44

we're trying to collect to

47:47

prove these charges. I

47:50

was in there with them, but my

47:52

bigger interest was to talk

47:55

with her one-on-one in

47:57

her own living room and just see what the man

47:59

is. demeanor was.

48:03

I searched her room with all the IRS

48:06

folks and I was looking

48:08

for what I knew I would find

48:10

which was like antidepressants,

48:12

Xanax, and the reason

48:15

those are important in the game

48:17

is that even burglary

48:20

crews, larger sophisticated

48:23

organized crime crews, when they

48:25

go in to do a job

48:28

a lot of them would take Xanax and antidepressant

48:31

so they were super calm and

48:33

super collected even though there

48:35

was chaos going on and the excitement

48:38

of the moment

48:39

it would get lost in it and

48:41

so when I saw

48:43

that she had Xanax and

48:46

antidepressant type stuff I thought she's gonna

48:48

be just super chill because

48:50

she's already popped a couple today probably.

48:56

She was a really cool cat

48:59

she was just sitting

49:01

on the couch just chatting

49:03

like yeah go ahead I

49:06

thought you were high as hell right now girl

49:10

and I sat just directly across from you she

49:12

says oh so you're Martinez I

49:16

am nice to meet you.

49:21

What

49:21

did you say to her? She

49:23

didn't talk about the case and I didn't want to go down the

49:25

road to the case she already knew what the game was

49:28

she knew I knew at that

49:31

point she had to have known you

49:34

have a federal agency

49:36

doing a search warrant accompanied

49:38

by a local investigator

49:43

you know that what you're doing

49:45

like you you you know that you you've

49:47

been defrauding folks this

49:50

church and all these people these organizations

49:52

for all this time but like

49:55

I said she was just cools a cucumber

49:57

I

49:59

didn't want to

49:59

I wouldn't pull her into any kind of statements

50:03

just because it was IRS's

50:05

case now. And I probably wouldn't have

50:07

done it there even if it was, you know, I was

50:09

running it. I wouldn't have done it there.

50:12

I would have rather had her in

50:15

an interview room. So

50:17

what did you talk about then? Small

50:19

talk. Just how

50:21

are the kids? You

50:23

know, what's your day like? Basic

50:26

stuff.

50:28

She's more like, oh, yeah, the kids are in school.

50:31

How long are you guys going to be here? I

50:33

don't know. Could be a few hours and whatnot.

50:37

And I got her water.

50:40

She was just kind of like, she

50:43

was just calm. She didn't look worried. She

50:47

looked contemplative. Like she was angling

50:49

for the next thing. Like, what was she going to do with this?

50:53

That's what I felt from her. But like

50:55

I said, she was just super chilled

50:57

out. Just like we are. We're just talking,

50:59

just having a conversation. And

51:01

you have like 10 people

51:04

just tearing up your house, going through

51:06

closets and drawers and your

51:09

underwear drawer. You know, like anything. Like,

51:11

you're like, hey, you don't need to go in there. And

51:14

she wasn't concerned at all.

51:18

What does that tell you about who

51:21

Amanda is, the fact

51:23

that she was like that? Well, because

51:25

she probably had the assistance of Xanax

51:28

or something in her system. She

51:31

may have had like legitimate anxiety

51:33

knowing every day is a scheme.

51:37

Every day is a show. It's an act.

51:40

She has to keep this up. It's

51:42

like that movie, The Truman Show,

51:45

where she knows she's being videoed.

51:48

That's the difference. So everywhere

51:50

she goes, everyone she meets, she's got to keep

51:52

with this storyline.

51:53

She has to study this storyline. And

51:56

I think the blog helps her kind of keep track

51:59

of where she was at. with it. Because

52:02

she had to be accurate with what she's

52:04

putting out publicly, right? Because somebody's gonna ask

52:06

her, hey, so how was hospital, you know, this

52:08

or that?

52:09

How was this medication? How she's got to have

52:12

that answer and ready to go. So

52:15

literally she's an actress and

52:17

a damn good one. Her

52:20

game was so good. She knew

52:23

that she had to keep this face. Because

52:26

if she was gonna show worry then

52:30

she's falling into that, you know, the

52:32

acceptance of it. Like you're going

52:35

down now, right? And you're telling

52:37

people just with your body language. Just

52:39

like you tell people your body language that you're sick.

52:42

So she has that down. She had it down.

52:44

And she's been doing it for a long time. I

52:48

just felt like she believes right now that this

52:50

is gonna blow over. She's gonna get out of this. Could

52:54

you talk to us about what's going on inside your house?

52:56

Nope. What about your wife

52:58

and allegations that she's

53:00

been raising money but doesn't have cancer?

53:04

Can you talk to us about that?

53:14

What were your thoughts of Corey? I

53:16

felt he knew what was going on and his

53:19

part of the act was to play as

53:22

if he didn't know. Like,

53:24

oh my god. Oh, she's not

53:26

sick. I thought in his

53:28

head he had been doing it for a while too. And

53:32

that was the other thing is the

53:34

stepdaughter wasn't convinced she was

53:36

sick. And kids have an instinct

53:38

about parents. I

53:41

think she sensed that like

53:43

whether or not she knew what a real cancer

53:45

victim looked like or I think

53:47

she felt the dishonesty, the inauthenticity

53:50

of the whole scene. The

53:53

day-to-day like it was probably

53:55

just being played out on the stage. This

53:57

is her stage and now you're one of the characters.

53:59

in her stage, but here's

54:02

Amanda. She's in full lack mode. You

54:05

know when somebody's fake crying or fake

54:07

emotional or fake nice,

54:11

kids have that sense about it. And

54:13

this girl was pretty consistent about her

54:16

not being truthful.

54:19

I could see where she got that from

54:22

when I was talking to Amanda. She was... her

54:25

response was not consistent

54:28

with what was happening. It

54:30

was fake concern like, oh my God,

54:33

are the kids going to make

54:35

it to school? Okay.

54:37

And you're like, oh really? I

54:40

mean, you know when somebody's faking. But

54:43

I knew she had to stay with that role.

54:45

Whilst all this was going on, Amanda

54:48

was still putting the cancer thing out there.

54:51

Shortly after the raid, she took to the stage

54:54

again,

54:54

this time at her school. Students

54:57

gathered to listen to her as she showcased

55:00

her cancer struggle and how it

55:02

deepened her relationship

55:03

with God. God

55:05

is always with you in his timing, not

55:08

yours. And it doesn't matter

55:10

if your glass is half full or empty.

55:13

What matters is what your glass

55:15

is filled with.

55:16

Is it filled with godly things or

55:19

worldly worries?

55:21

God didn't give me cancer. God

55:23

prepared me for cancer. And

55:26

she was still taking Nancy to court.

55:28

Amanda Riley filed a

55:31

civil harassment restraining order against me

55:33

and using a bunch of

55:36

extremely exaggerated claims. In

55:38

the request for civil harassment restraining orders,

55:41

these are some of the things that they listed.

55:45

The harassment is ongoing and is targeting Ms.

55:47

Riley's spouse as well. Ms. Muscatello

55:49

has made calls

55:50

to Mr. Riley's employers and

55:52

others in order to threaten and harass him.

55:55

Ms. Muscatello accessed secure court

55:57

records regarding Mr. Riley's pay stubs

55:59

in his family court case. This

56:02

harassment and invasion of privacy has caused

56:04

serious emotional distress and is interfering

56:06

with the ongoing family court case. Ms.

56:10

Moscatella's actions have caused

56:11

Amanda Riley her employment previously.

56:14

Ms. Riley has a new employer and is fearful

56:16

of further actions risking

56:17

her employment.

56:19

The new employer has

56:20

been unwilling to announce Ms. Riley's

56:22

position due to this matter.

56:23

Ms.

56:26

Moscatella's harassment has been an ongoing

56:28

pattern of behavior for over a year. She

56:30

was contacted by Mr. Riley's ex-wife

56:33

in an attempt to cause problems with an ongoing

56:35

family law matter regarding their children.

56:38

Amanda

56:38

Riley was diagnosed with and beat

56:40

cancer. However, Ms. Moscatella

56:42

has been claiming and investigating that Ms.

56:44

Riley never had cancer and was a fraud. This

56:48

has caused Ms. Riley to lose her job and

56:51

put her in fear of losing her new position as

56:53

well. I

56:55

would never say it's harassing. She's putting herself

56:57

out there. She's putting herself

57:00

out there via her work, her court.

57:03

Everything revolves around the cancer. So

57:05

to fact check it, you have to ask questions. You have

57:07

to contact people. You have to... But

57:09

she's accusing you of

57:11

you making her having to resign

57:13

from her job. Yeah. I

57:15

was like, whoa, like, boy, you have

57:18

just upped this big time. Because,

57:20

you know, in my mind, I'm not doing anything wrong.

57:22

I've been doing this for a very long time.

57:24

I'm thorough and I'm careful and I'm

57:27

respectful. When I started

57:29

reading through it, I was like, oh, this is all made

57:31

up. Like, this is all bullshit, right?

57:35

This will be easy because I didn't do any of these

57:37

things.

57:39

I knew she was desperate. I knew

57:42

that this was a desperate attempt

57:45

to silent me and to get

57:47

rid of me because I think she thought that

57:49

it would be easy. Did it deter you

57:51

in any way? Oh, no, no.

57:54

If anything, it made it extremely

57:56

personal.

57:59

I was like bringing on...

58:00

on. Scamander

58:06

is hosted and produced by me,

58:08

Charlie Webster, and produced by Jackson

58:10

McLennan. Amanda's blog

58:12

posts are read by actor Kendall Horne.

58:16

Peggy, Amanda's mom, is read

58:18

by actor Jill Marie Hoffman. Edit

58:21

and theme music by Nico Pilella. Assistant

58:24

producer Casey Hertz. Assistant

58:26

editor Sima Greywall. Additional

58:30

production support from Stephen Slaton,

58:32

Will Hagel and Nicole

58:33

Urban.

58:36

Executive produced by me, Charlie Webster

58:39

and Nancy Moscatello. Scamander

58:42

is a Lionsgate Sound production engineered

58:44

by Pilgrim Media Group.

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