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You listeners are coming in late to

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a conversation, but I was just fixing to tell Chester

2:44

here on the subject of finding

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arrowheads. My

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kids had, did I tell you about this? They

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were messing with the metal detector? No,

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you didn't. Then they struck some metal with

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that metal detector and

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on the way, digging down to the metal

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found a piece, a big worked

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piece of black obsidian. And

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in their heads, it detects that. And

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I was trying to like, no, this is coincidence.

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We were, it was something, it

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wanted to be an old hunk barbed wire fence. Was

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this in your yard? What's that? Where

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did this happen at?

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Oh, no, no, no, no, open the mountains. Oh, okay. They

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want to be an old, but here's, here's the weird deal. That

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fencing was

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lower than it. That's

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pretty wild. Like that worked. I

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don't know. Yeah. Beautiful

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piece of work, black obsidian. Like

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how big? About like

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a size your thumb. That little

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pocket, if I think

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it's the same place. It's not

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same place. Okay. Where

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we were, it's loaded with

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flakes, chips,

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obviously arrowheads. Yeah, stay out of there. We

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will. Um. Real

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quick, who you guys rooting for on the, who

4:04

you guys rooting for between Elon Musk and Mark

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Zuckerberg? Oh, I've been talking about this

4:08

a lot. I do a sports radio show and we talk about this a lot.

4:11

Not who's gonna, well, I wanna know who's gonna

4:13

win, but who you rooting for? See, I'm

4:15

rooting for Elon, but I think Zuck

4:18

is just a sociopath, psychopath

4:20

kinda. So, he's won Jiu-Jitsu

4:22

tournaments already, so. Well, I don't

4:24

know how much does either of them weigh?

4:27

Well, Elon's definitely heavier than

4:30

Zuck. So, he's gonna have to cut if

4:32

it's really gonna happen, I think. But,

4:35

you know, if you saw Elon's tweet, he said

4:37

that his main move is the Walrus, where

4:40

he just lays on you. See, I don't use, I don't

4:42

like, I don't even know why I'm rooting for him, but

4:44

I don't know why, because there's nothing he's involved in to interest

4:46

me. I don't use Twitter.

4:48

I have zero interest in Mars. I

4:51

will never buy a Tesla electric

4:53

car. I've bought a thing

4:55

on PayPal in the last 10 years. What

4:58

else you got going on? Starlink? Do you

5:01

use Starlink? That I would get in. Yeah, see, Starlink is

5:03

smart. I do like him.

5:04

Starlink is my favorite.

5:06

Yeah, I don't know why I'm rooting for him so bad. I

5:09

just, something about Facebook is

5:11

just evil to me. Yeah,

5:13

and you know, he also owns Instagram, which

5:15

I think you use daily.

5:16

No, I do use that, but I don't think that my access

5:19

to that, if he gets whooped, that

5:21

doesn't even matter that much to me. I

5:24

use one of his products, but you know what my problem

5:26

is?

5:28

Remember that movie about

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Facebook? Socials Network. Socials

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Network painted like a very unflattering perspective.

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That for me is, that's that. That's

5:40

the story. Like, yeah, yeah. And so,

5:42

you know, I just have, I have a

5:44

friendlier,

5:47

I have a friendlier, yeah,

5:49

I just like Elon Musk. I

5:52

don't know the guy at all. Enjoy

5:54

today. Bye. So

5:57

random.

5:59

I'm I'm

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I'm not counting my wife's gonna talk. I thought

6:03

the I thought the fight was already called off No,

6:06

no, oh no, they're trying to make no you're thinking of pergosans

6:11

There is there something there's something

6:13

in the news about how Elon Musk Must

6:16

be said my mother asked me not to fight

6:18

and so fight really yeah, yeah,

6:20

I thought you were confused about the No, they're

6:23

similar in a lot of ways. Yeah, this fight

6:26

get the Wagner group and the coup in Russia I've been

6:28

I've been reading equal amounts about both. Oh, yeah,

6:30

I've thought about a short-lived coup. Yeah, that's

6:33

so fast Nothing happened. I know I could

6:35

like

6:36

woke up in the morning like specked and

6:38

you know The Kremlin,

6:40

you know, and he's like we've decided

6:42

just go home

6:45

How's it now the guys I like that works

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he's a hot dog he's a hot dog vendor Yeah,

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I don't think it works that way. Well way ago. Yeah,

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I know but you know humble origins

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joined today by former Denver

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Broncos defensive end Derek wolf

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Who

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sacked I mean, you know how many times

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do people point this out? Do you sack Tom Brady price

7:05

act all kinds of I got Tom Brady? I I

7:07

sacked him the most though. He's the quarterback that

7:09

I got to the most

7:10

here's my here's my first question for you We're gonna come back

7:12

this morning When

7:14

if you talk to I don't want I'm not trying to

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equate military service Which

7:19

I have no experience into athletic

7:21

which I have no experience in but let's

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just say Continue. Okay,

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if you talk to

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military professionals

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You're striving toward a like

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a dispassionate approach Meaning

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if you're going to like

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raid bin Laden's compound You

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take the same mental Attitude

7:48

is all of the other dozens

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or hundreds of rage you'd been on

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right? Do you I mean like like yeah?

7:56

You're aware, but when it comes to doing

7:59

it, it's just That's out

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of your head. Yeah, it doesn't matter who it is. Yeah, it's

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like, you know, it's the guy with the ball See

8:05

ball get ball. Yep, like that's that's it's

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simple So but in your mind,

8:10

are you like I am gonna

8:12

I have the potential right now to sack

8:15

this guy that people sit It's

8:17

not how it doesn't you don't even care You don't try

8:19

harder because when you're out there everybody's on an equal

8:21

playing level You're like it was on the same level

8:23

like it does you don't think like that. You don't think like all this

8:25

Tom Brady really No, just you

8:28

know, and I was I maybe I'm different

8:30

because when I first got drafted by

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Denver Peyton Manning was my quarterback So

8:35

I had a relationship with Peyton Manning right away.

8:38

So I wasn't like starstruck You know

8:40

what I mean? And then my first sack in

8:42

the first game was against Ben Walthusberg, you know

8:44

It's like guys get nervous when you sack

8:46

them Well guys get seriously guys kind

8:49

of get like that sometimes where they're like

8:51

they get starstruck about a player Well, they eat

8:53

as I got older like in my fourth season I'd seen the rookie

8:56

rookies come in and they'd see Peyton and they'd be like

8:59

and then not realize that he's just like a normal guy That

9:02

you know drinks butt-heavy and plays football and

9:04

you know, he's just a normal guy He'll sit

9:06

down at breakfast have a conversation with you about

9:08

whatever

9:09

He's just that kind of guy and Tom Brady's

9:11

the same way as a competitor You know, I mean out

9:13

there on the field like you if you get him and make a good play

9:16

He'll tell you like I had good play, you know, oh really? Yeah,

9:18

he's like, oh, that's a good play You got me on that one, you

9:20

know, huh? That was he like he bat one

9:22

of his passes He'll lose his mind and

9:24

quarterbacks hate that when you like bat passes Block

9:27

balls and stuff like that But you know, he's just a great

9:29

competitor probably the best competitor ever played

9:32

against honestly because

9:33

you could you know an AFC championship game 2015 The

9:37

first series of the game I buried him and this

9:39

is when you could still land on the quarterback And

9:41

I buried him like put all 300 pounds

9:43

on him and just buried him into the ground And

9:45

he just that's a people forget how tough he really

9:48

was like he jumped right back up Like

9:50

it was nothing and I heard the wind leaving,

9:52

you know You

9:55

know and it was like the first like

9:57

I think it was a third play of the game and we ended

9:59

up hitting

9:59

27 times in that game. Oh,

10:02

so he got buried 27 times and

10:04

he still almost came back and beat us They

10:06

made a rule that you're not supposed to land on the quarterback. Yeah,

10:08

we supposed to land on your elbow Oh, they want you to like

10:11

do everything you can so you can't hit him

10:14

below the knees You can't touch

10:16

his head at all. Don't even like graze his head

10:19

and you can't hit him with your own head You

10:22

can't grab him and whip him to the ground

10:25

Dude, that's gotta be so it changed

10:27

everything it made it a lot harder to Tackle

10:30

them. So it's like you're like playing in the yard

10:32

with your kids. Well you like it Yeah, it's like pick

10:34

them up it like I don't know Set

10:38

them down the first year they implemented that rule This

10:41

is the last of the first year the implementer. I missed

10:43

like seven opportunities to have a sack, right?

10:46

And these are you know this we could talk

10:48

about because you're nervous. Well, it's not even that It's

10:50

just that like yeah, you're nervous cuz the fine. So I'm

10:52

saying like you're nervous Breaking

10:54

the 15 to 25 thousand

10:55

dollar fine when you get those roughing

10:57

the passer calls that comes out of whose pocket

10:59

mine Really? Yeah, just

11:02

take it pre-tax to and they're

11:04

already taxing you. I'm already paying 50% You

11:07

know, I'm already paying half of my money to the gut uncle Sam

11:10

and then the you know The league is like oh by the way, you

11:12

had a penalty So here's a fifteen

11:14

thousand other fine that just shows up in your locker and

11:16

you never you don't even write the check They just take it out of your paycheck

11:20

It's crazy. So the first year of the

11:22

memo would watch in football. They don't have

11:24

the they don't like put that like no No, no,

11:26

I'll talk about you. Oh, how many finds

11:29

is he paid? You can find for all kinds of stuff

11:31

We had a guy that you know weight finds. It's a thousand

11:33

dollars a pound What's

11:35

that mean when you're when you you have a you have a weight

11:37

that you're supposed to be at and if you're over Or

11:39

under that weight, it's a thousand bucks a pound.

11:41

How precise is the weight?

11:43

It depends how wide is the band? So

11:45

underweight is usually like forgivable But

11:48

when you're overweight, that's when they start hitting

11:50

it like if you'd won a two pounds over

11:53

Though they might be wearing the band you're supposed to land

11:55

in so alright So for example, we

11:57

had a guy that his his report his report

11:59

weight was He was 330 pounds. He

12:02

showed up at like 415 at training

12:05

camp. And over

12:07

that season, he got fined $375,000. God,

12:12

that takes body shaming to a whole new level

12:14

right there. So you got to think every

12:17

Friday you weigh in. It's body shaming. Is that by the NFL

12:19

or by the team? That's by the team. Didn't

12:22

Von Miller famously get fined

12:24

for farting in like a film session team?

12:26

Oh yeah, that was it. Yeah, so we,

12:28

that's like a- It's like a position

12:30

group thing. So every position group in their

12:33

room. So we always had, it was a $500 fine for farting. Who

12:38

created that? We just, the

12:41

fun thing about those ones are- Would you

12:43

guys self please? Yeah, oh yeah.

12:45

Because you get your plus 100 for snitching.

12:49

You wouldn't like- Well, you're plus 100 for

12:51

snitching. So if I catch somebody farting,

12:53

I'm like, hey, it was him, it was him. I get a hundred bucks.

12:56

This right here is one of the many reasons

12:58

I didn't become a professional football player. Well,

13:01

it's simple. Just get up and walk out and fart.

13:04

You know what I mean?

13:05

So funny thing about Von is Von

13:07

ended up bringing, you know that fart spray? He'd

13:09

bring that fart spray and spray it and just everybody

13:11

would lose, it just cleared the whole room

13:14

out for a couple hours. But yeah, the

13:16

fun thing about those fines, those room fines, like

13:18

the position fines, we get to take that money

13:21

at the end of the year and go do something for ourselves

13:23

with it. Like as a group, go to like

13:25

a big dinner, go to Vegas or something.

13:27

Chucky cheeses. Go to Chuck E. Cheese, Urban

13:30

Air, do some trampolines. You know, all

13:32

kinds of cool stuff you could do with it. But yeah,

13:35

but the landing on the quarterback thing, it

13:37

made it, I remember when the referees come

13:39

in, they come in during training camp and they explained the new

13:42

rules and they started talking about this. And we were like, well then how

13:44

are we supposed to

13:45

tackle him to the ground? And the refs

13:47

were like, I don't

13:50

know. That's what they said. They said, we don't know.

13:52

Figure it out. Just don't land on

13:54

him. If you land on him, we will throw the flag. Like

13:56

no matter what. If your body lands on top of

13:58

his. We were like well, what if we

14:00

like sprawl out like, you

14:03

know, I mean it's like And

14:05

like straddle him, you know, yeah, so you're like

14:07

no doesn't matter if you land on him It's over and then you're

14:09

doing like a plank over him Yeah, yeah, so

14:11

basically what they want you to do is like pick him up and like fall

14:13

on your back with him on top of you

14:16

That's kind of what they want and what's

14:18

happening is I'd get the guys wrapped up and then go to

14:21

spin them And they just throw the ball away

14:23

So I'm like I'm missing all these sacks because

14:25

I can't like bury the guy

14:27

And then it then you that's the other

14:29

thing the more you have to think out there the slower

14:32

you are and you miss opportunities And stuff

14:34

like that. So yeah, it's a stupid role

14:36

that is changing games And you see it now where

14:38

guys are you're like, how is that a roughing the passer? It's

14:40

because you can't land on the guy and it's insane

14:43

and then you can't you can't touch his you can't graze

14:45

his helmet Like don't even graze it. That's a 15-yard flag

14:48

Peyton Manning strikes me as a Miller light

14:50

guy. You said he drinks Budweiser, but heavy really?

14:53

Yeah, he's a man. He's what he's

14:55

a hunter Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, but

14:57

that doesn't mean that he no

15:00

it's exclusive to Budweiser No, but what do

15:02

you mean? He strikes you like a light beer? Yeah, if I had

15:04

if I looked at Peyton Manning knowing what I know about Peyton

15:06

Manning be like he drinks Miller light Not

15:09

Budweiser,

15:10

but heavies. Okay. Oh You

15:13

don't mean because of I've had enough current

15:15

events for today and I'm not even not

15:17

even related to that just He

15:19

looks like he'd be in a Miller light ad

15:21

Derek wolf came

15:23

out just just for listeners

15:26

Derek wolf was heavy-duty on our radar and

15:29

We even wrote a bottom

15:33

Wrote a bottom at our website on the media

15:35

meet eater calm because he got in one of

15:37

those One of those things

15:39

that happens six times a year

15:42

Where a person well

15:44

known in one sphere of

15:46

the world Goes hunting

15:48

and

15:49

then they and then

15:51

they pay the price on social media

15:53

with all the

15:55

Uproar and death threats in your case. You did

15:57

a mountain lion hunt. Yeah No

16:00

poaching. No, everything was by the

16:02

book, man. I did everything by the book. It wasn't even a

16:05

paid outfitting hunt. It was like

16:07

a buddy of mine that runs hounds and was like,

16:10

I said, hey, if you ever have an opening

16:12

and you wanna go, hit me up. Like

16:15

I'm just, we can go 45 minutes outside

16:17

of the city and chase lions, you know? So

16:19

this is actually my

16:21

second time having PETA and

16:23

TMZ and all them guys on my butt

16:26

over hunting. I went to New Mexico

16:28

and did a bison hunt with my bow. Oh,

16:31

that got them riled up? And that got them all riled up. And

16:33

what riled them up really was the picture I posted because

16:35

it was a perfect heart shot.

16:37

So when we opened that animal

16:39

up, my arrow was still buried in its heart. So

16:42

I pulled the heart out and it was like. They didn't

16:44

like that none. They didn't like that. They didn't

16:46

like that at all. So they made a big deal about it. They're like,

16:48

Buffalo or, they're going

16:50

extinct. I'm like, no, they're not. No, come on.

16:53

No, they're not. They just, people don't. It's

16:55

like, it's so beside the point. Any

16:58

kind of reality is so beside the point. What's funny

17:00

is we could do that kind of stuff. Well, in fact, do do that

17:02

kind of stuff all day long.

17:03

But it's just like, people don't like being surprised.

17:06

They know someone somewhere and they

17:08

don't like seeing that, that

17:11

they don't like seeing that raw edge in them. Surprises

17:14

them. Yeah. Like if you're like

17:16

famous for something, if you're like an attractive

17:18

young lady, they're just not gonna

17:20

like it.

17:21

Well, it's like, are you surprised? I told Phillip

17:23

Rivers I was gonna eat his children. You're

17:26

surprised that I'm out bow hunting? You'd have to be hungry.

17:29

Yes, I see. He's got a bunch of them. But

17:33

that's another story. That

17:35

was hilarious when I said that to him because he talked

17:38

a lot of smack, if Phil did. But with

17:40

the lion hunt, the way it went down, it was

17:43

my buddy, Alex Nestor, he runs hounds and

17:45

he was like, hey, tomorrow we're getting a

17:47

fresh snow tonight, be on call.

17:50

I'll call you if we find one. I said, listen, I'll be at your

17:52

house at 5.30. We're gonna go out and

17:54

do something regardless.

17:56

So he's like, all right, cool.

17:57

So I show up and we start.

18:00

trying to cut tracks, just driving back roads,

18:03

and then found a couple smaller tracks, nothing

18:05

really worth chasing, couple

18:07

females, couple cubs, couple smaller males.

18:10

And what you're really after is this big toms,

18:12

because the big toms are like,

18:14

they're killing a lot of deer, they're killing a lot of elk,

18:16

they're killing a lot of sheep, they're killing dogs,

18:18

they're killing other cubs to get the

18:20

females back into heat, just like bears do. And

18:22

they're just bigger. And they're just bigger and cooler, and

18:25

harder to get. So

18:27

we come across this track, and

18:30

it's kind of going back and forth from up underneath

18:32

this guy's cabin. It's going from

18:35

his cabin porch to under this

18:37

tree. So we go over and look under the tree, there's a half-eaten mule

18:39

deer under there, big four by four. And

18:42

we're like, oh, this is the one. His

18:45

track was huge, I couldn't believe. I was like,

18:47

these things are out here roaming around, just in

18:49

people's neighborhoods. It's

18:52

a mountain neighborhood, you know what those neighborhoods look like, but still,

18:54

it's a neighborhood. So

18:56

there's public land all around, but where

18:59

the line had went through was private. So

19:01

we had to get permission from this guy, so

19:03

we could go through there and cut his tracks.

19:05

So we're just kind of hoping that this guy's not an anti-hunter

19:08

and

19:08

is down for it.

19:10

So we went up and kind of knocked, it was like six in the morning

19:12

at this point, so I just kind of tapped on the door. I didn't

19:14

wanna like, go bow, bow, bow, hey, there's a

19:16

line out here. I didn't wanna do that. So

19:18

I just kind of tapped on the door. He didn't

19:20

answer, nobody came to the door, I didn't see any lights on, so

19:22

I was like, maybe he's just not home. But there was a truck in the driveway,

19:24

so I assumed somebody was home. So

19:27

we left and we were trying to find a phone number to call

19:29

this guy on.

19:30

And with Google and with

19:32

all these online maps now, you can kind of figure out who owns

19:34

what property and we were able to get some of the neighbors'

19:36

numbers. And we started hearing stories about how

19:39

many lions are actually in this area causing

19:42

wreaking havoc. Like this one woman was talking about

19:44

how last year, a couple of dogs got eaten and

19:47

her dogs are being harassed every night. She's afraid

19:49

to leave her house at night because there's a lion that comes up and looks

19:51

in her window

19:52

and just stares in the window

19:55

at her little dogs. Pervert. Yeah,

19:57

like this little pervert lion.

19:59

Peeping Tom. Yeah, peeping. Yeah, peeping

20:02

Tom. That was good. Ram, Dr. Randall?

20:04

Yeah, that was good. I appreciate that one. We

20:06

did a little scorecard. Yeah, that's a good one. Zing.

20:09

Yeah. I think that would hurt this podcast.

20:11

Give a mark for Randall. But it turns

20:14

out that that's like a dude ranch where this guy, it's

20:16

like the ranch manager, the guy that lives there on this dude

20:18

ranch. So

20:20

we couldn't get ahold of anybody that

20:22

owned the dude ranch. So finally we just were

20:24

like, well, let's drive down and see if we can get around his property

20:27

and try to catch the tracks, which is gonna, it's

20:29

gonna suck because the hiking is like

20:31

straight up and down. It's straight cliffs, two

20:33

feet of fresh snow. It's gonna be

20:35

kind of miserable regardless. So we're like, well, you know,

20:38

it's gonna take us three miles out of our way, but you

20:40

know, if we want to get him, we got to go now. So

20:43

we started driving down and here comes the guy out

20:46

of his house kind of waving at us. He's like, hey,

20:48

you guys lying hunters? And we're like, yeah. And

20:50

he's like, you see these tracks going across

20:52

my yard? I said, dude, we've been trying to get ahold of you for two

20:54

hours. And he's like, oh,

20:56

is that you guys on the porch? And I said, yeah, he said, oh, I thought

20:58

it was that lion. So

21:01

he thought the lion, he's cause

21:03

he said, he's like, there's this big lion that keeps coming up onto

21:05

my porch and looking in my windows. And

21:08

so, so the track, I mean, the tracks went right by his

21:10

steps, you know? And he's like, did you see

21:12

how big those tracks are? We're like, yeah, he's like, he's huge.

21:15

And he's like, we're like, you care if we go after him? He's like,

21:17

please go get him. Please get him out of

21:19

here.

21:20

So we, so, you know, we, we jump

21:22

out. I grabbed my pack, grabbed my bow. We

21:24

let the dogs out and we just go straight up and

21:27

we, and on the way up, I'm like,

21:29

I'm starting to slip and slide already. And I'm like, this ain't

21:32

good.

21:32

This is going to turn in. I already know how hopefully he's

21:35

treated at the top of this, this mountain already. Like hopefully

21:37

he was just up there and he's treat already.

21:39

Well, we get up there and he wasn't.

21:41

He goes all the way back down the other side, the backside.

21:44

So we started like 9,000 feet or like 8,900 feet