0:04

Welcome everyone to the RP strength

0:06

podcast. I am Nick Shaw and

0:08

joined by the man, the myth,

0:11

the legend of

0:13

Dr. Mike. Oh,

0:16

legend. What a

0:18

grotesque overstatement. Legend

0:20

of the falls. Oh, Hey,

0:22

isn't that like that movie with, um, Brad

0:25

Pitt dreaming. I

0:28

remember Scott, the video guy tried to describe,

0:30

no, no, Chris, uh, you know, our friend

0:32

Chris, uh, Hawaii, Chris. He

0:34

tried to describe the plot of it to me

0:36

and I basically lost interest after about two sentences.

0:39

There's like, there's a war scene and I think

0:41

it's world war one. If I recall correctly, but

0:43

I don't, I couldn't tell you the plot either.

0:46

Was it gnarly? Oh God, I

0:48

don't remember. I don't think I watched the whole thing, but

0:51

you know, it's one of those movies you're watching, you're like, Oh, there's

0:53

like five, 10 minutes of like a war scene and you're kind of,

0:55

that was the part that actually had me. Yeah,

1:02

dude, I got into some, man. So

1:06

it was at the, um, best

1:08

buy or some shit like that with my parents. I

1:10

was a kid that got early teen and

1:14

there was a movie playing, you know, to show that

1:16

all the TVs worked. And

1:18

it was a scene from the movie born on

1:21

the 4th of July with, I think, Tom Cruz,

1:24

it was a war scene, Vietnam. And

1:27

I thought it compelling. And I was like, Oh, I'm going to watch this. This is kind

1:29

of right up my alley. Born on

1:32

the 4th of July is basically

1:34

goes to Vietnam. It

1:36

gets really fucked up. I think he's in

1:38

a wheelchair for forever. And then

1:40

he like struggles in a downward spiral of suicidal

1:42

ideation and drug addiction the rest of the time.

1:45

I may have missed some plot elements, but that's

1:47

basically it. And so when I actually saw

1:49

it, I was like, Oh, so

1:52

to your point of like, there's eight minutes of war. And

1:54

that was fucking dope. Yeah. That's

1:56

what that movie was. And it was not a

1:58

pro American film. I'll tell you that

2:00

much. Wow.

2:02

That sounds like, um, some elements of

2:05

Forrest Gump. Yes. Except

2:07

without the lovable forest

2:09

himself. There's had that, I guess most

2:12

people have never even heard my Forrest Gump impression or

2:14

other than I have. I was leading up to that

2:16

house open and kick in. Lieutenant,

2:18

I'll have an impression as hard as I

2:20

talk. So that's good.

2:22

Do you want to talk about today's topic?

2:25

And I do exclusively forest. Could

2:28

you introduce today's topic in Forrest's voice, but

2:30

please for the love of God, don't do

2:32

the entire episode in that. You

2:34

want me to really introduce it? Yeah. Great.

2:36

All right, folks. So today we're

2:39

going to talk about a few

2:41

things, but mostly we're going to

2:43

talk about how to

2:45

be successful, which as

2:48

someone who won the Nobel prize of

2:50

everything and got to make two presidents,

2:53

I know a lot about, so

2:55

here's my co-host, Mr. Nick Shaw, and

2:58

I'm going to go back into my little

3:00

weird dark hole and Dr. Mike's brain and

3:03

come out whenever no one's around. Okay.

3:05

Jesus, that is a dark place, huh? All

3:08

right. Oh my God. There's so much more darkness in there,

3:10

Nick. He, well, you do have an idea. You've known me

3:12

for some time. Yeah, I have. Um,

3:17

yeah. You, so you mentioned this topic and

3:19

I was like, you're like, how does that

3:21

relate? You know, does this relate to fitness?

3:23

Is that okay, man? Here's, here's my take.

3:25

Right. And I literally wrote a book on

3:27

it. Literally. Literally.

3:31

Uh, I think of the traits

3:33

and endeavors, you know, whatever you want

3:35

to call it that makes people successful

3:37

and in one area of life, almost

3:40

certainly carries over into fitness and other areas

3:42

of life. So it's not like,

3:45

when you talk about like, what do people, like

3:47

what a successful business people do? All right. There's

3:50

a lot, a lot of things that they do, but Gee

3:53

whiz, most of it has carry

3:55

over to personal finances, to, I

3:58

don't know, relationships, to fitness. to

4:00

basically whatever you want. So, um,

4:03

yeah, let's dive into, because you were just

4:05

building out your own model for an upcoming

4:08

YouTube video. You said this. Yep.

4:12

And this, yes, this will be, um, as

4:14

a matter of fact, Mr. Nick Shaw, I'm just

4:16

going to send you the outline and the chart

4:19

and someone on the same page. Yeah.

4:22

Okay, Zoom, I'm chatting as a guest.

4:24

What the fuck does that even mean?

4:26

God damn it. So

4:29

as you're probably reading right now, Nick, and

4:31

as our dearest listeners, we'll soon find out

4:34

it's really, this is a four

4:36

step process. Um,

4:39

it's a process, um, that's

4:42

really straight forward and direct. And

4:45

hopefully you guys don't come away from

4:48

this podcast thinking like, fuck,

4:51

that's bullshit. Cause it's

4:53

obvious. Thanks for nothing

4:56

assholes. So there's a quote that I

4:58

just read recently in a book and it was, uh, I'm

5:01

paraphrasing. Of course I can never remember the exact exact

5:03

quote, but if something like successful, people don't need to

5:05

be told what to do. They need to be reminded.

5:09

Hmm. Yeah. Cause oftentimes people who are

5:11

prone to success anyway, kind of straight from the beaten

5:14

path, trying to weird shit that doesn't fucking add up.

5:17

Um, yeah. The basics

5:19

work, man. The basics work, man. The basics

5:21

work. What is it? Dale Carnegie in one

5:24

of his books. Um, he's like,

5:26

I might not even tell you anything you don't already know,

5:28

but I am going to kick you in the heels to

5:30

do something about it. Now I read both

5:32

of his seminal works, how to stop worrying and start

5:34

living, which I owe my life to and how to

5:36

win friends and influence people, which I've yet to do,

5:38

but hopefully it'll work soon. Nick,

5:40

will you mean my friend? That's

5:43

how it works, right? That's that's how the book

5:45

goes. You beg people to be your friends

5:50

step two step process never fails. Be

5:52

pathetic. Step one, step two, step three,

5:55

beg. Is if you're

5:57

begging an apathetic, you're not selling it. And

5:59

if you're but you're not begging, you're

6:01

not even working. So there's no fail.

6:04

But yeah, that last

6:06

book was also super fucking

6:08

dope. But I did learn a ton in both those books.

6:11

Dale is definitely cutting himself with a little flack

6:13

in that regard. So

6:15

I do have another channel on

6:17

YouTube, guys, Mike Isretel, Making Progress. Feel free

6:19

to tune in if you'd like to talk

6:22

about the singularity in AI. And I think

6:24

I only had some shit on relationships and

6:26

how to be productive and stuff that people

6:28

liked way more than my ramblings and crime

6:30

and homelessness, sort of fuck else I talk about. So

6:32

those videos are doing well. So we're gonna lean in a little bit more

6:34

into that kind of life advice column shit, which I never in a million

6:36

years thought I would be doing. But

6:39

people seem to like it and so kind

6:41

of help when I need it best. So

6:44

I'll do a deeper dive on this from a

6:46

different perspective here. Nick, do you wanna focus

6:48

in kind of more on the fitness side here,

6:51

give some fitness examples? I think that might

6:53

be really beneficial, especially for people who like, I

6:56

don't know if they're listening to this podcast, but

6:58

maybe the people who are listening to this podcast,

7:00

a lot of them are coaches or trainers and folks

7:02

that have family members that kind of wish we're in

7:04

fitness. And I think folks, we all have family and

7:06

friends and people we know, they're kind of trying, everyone

7:09

knows they're supposed to be into fitness, right? Like if

7:11

any random person in the store, like, hey, should you

7:13

be working out? They're probably like, dark their

7:15

eyes around, we're good, yeah,

7:17

yeah, of course. So everyone kind of

7:19

knows that. But I think

7:21

some people go about it all the wrong way. And

7:23

I think forgetting people into fitness and

7:26

getting them into fitness, hobbies

7:28

and lifestyles that they can continue to

7:30

do forever and to be good at, this

7:33

heuristic might help. Yeah, we can

7:36

always use fitness examples for sure. Perfect.

7:39

Cause I don't use any in the lecture that's

7:41

gonna come out in a few weeks on the

7:43

Progress Channel. How's that channel doing, by the way?

7:45

Oh my God, it's like a dumpster fire. It

7:47

smells, smoke, someone's, I think was screaming in there

7:50

for a while, but they stopped. So

7:54

it's doing okay. I

7:57

think we have like 45,000, so. subscribers.

8:02

But I just like, I

8:04

promote it literally once every two weeks

8:06

or week when I release a video

8:08

and put it in my Instagram. It's

8:11

really the only way people find out about it. A lot of

8:13

people find out about it randomly. Google searched me and they're like,

8:15

what the fuck is this? And they comment. They're like, what the

8:17

fuck is this? And then someone like, oh, it's pretty cool. So

8:20

maybe that channel's got legs. Maybe it'll

8:22

do better in the future. But we actually like saw

8:24

our recent videos and kind of self-improvement. I

8:27

kind of, was one video we had that did really

8:29

well was I think how to deal with

8:31

failure. And

8:34

it's doing like exponentially better than every other video.

8:36

And so we're like, okay, Scott, the video that I like,

8:38

let's lean into that a little bit more. Because if that's

8:40

what people want to hear from me, I'm not sure what

8:43

they're gonna get. And

8:45

now that I'm gonna turn 40 here in a few months, it

8:48

looks like I have lived a little while and you

8:51

need to help some people out. I guess the channel's gonna

8:53

kind of try to help out some younger

8:55

folks, people in their kind of teens, 20s, 30s to,

8:58

you know, maybe make a little bit more out

9:00

of their lives than they're currently on the trajectory.

9:02

So I don't talk

9:04

about relationships and other stuff like that. And I mean,

9:06

all of us is theoretical because I've never had any

9:08

success or relationships. But I do think a lot to

9:10

myself in my dark bedroom or

9:12

even the cockroaches, Nick, even the cockroaches

9:15

won't look me in the face. You believe that shit?

9:17

I don't even know if they have eyes, bro. Do they normally? Do

9:20

they normally look people in the eyes? I

9:22

think that's what cockroaches are known for. There's

9:24

like this Steven Seagal glare. How

9:26

dare you? I was asleep. That

9:29

would be, I'd be scary as fuck. I don't want to

9:31

eat insects looking at me. Holy shit. Talk about godlessness, you

9:33

know? You ever look at a fucking

9:35

dragonfly and you're like, I can see his soul?

9:38

Bullshit. If eyes are the wind

9:40

of the soul, as the saying goes, insects are

9:42

soulless. Sorry, the Indians. Damn.

9:46

That's deep. You ready for this shit? I

9:48

was born ready, baby. I

9:52

believe you were born at seven pounds, nine

9:54

ounces and screaming. I was actually a big

9:57

kid. I think I was over 40 pounds.

9:59

Holy shit. shit your mom is like, dude,

10:02

for what it's worth, fuck you, you're

10:04

like, sorry. I

10:07

will ask her, I will see you here tomorrow. She's

10:10

like, I don't remember, no, yeah, Nick, yep, yep. You were

10:12

the one that hurt the most. You're like, I'm sorry. On

10:16

that note, somewhat on that note, Jesus,

10:18

not totally on that note. So

10:21

we're talking about success. One of the

10:23

coolest things I think I've ever experienced in

10:25

my entire life of being maybe reasonably successful,

10:28

all relative, right, is

10:30

I've been able to help my

10:33

parents out financially with

10:35

some stuff. And it's the coolest

10:37

feeling in the world, because you know how

10:39

hard your parents worked. I mean, especially your

10:41

parents literally moved from a different country to

10:43

here to be able to, like, you know,

10:45

I know we were lower middle

10:47

class growing up, but to be able to do some

10:50

stuff for them is like just, it's

10:53

totally for them, but dude, it feels so good

10:55

when I do it too, it's such a selfish

10:57

thing too. It's amazing. It's a transcendent experience. It

10:59

really is, man. It really is.

11:01

I've had the opportunity to

11:03

help financially for a few people in my life that

11:05

are close to me, and it was

11:08

all under the best of circumstances. Like, I don't

11:10

know anyone that's a money-grubbing asshole or anything like

11:12

that. You get every

11:14

other month, and I can't handle it. Thank you, that means a lot to me. You

11:19

know, in the background, folks, for you in

11:21

the know, we do, Nick has fully

11:23

earned his honorary Jew card. I'm

11:25

talking about like, this

11:27

guy could walk into synagogue, and they're like,

11:29

oh, shalom. And you're like, hi, my friends.

11:32

So the money-grubbing, you're

11:34

not money-grubbing, technically is an insult,

11:38

but yeah, no, it's been, I've had

11:40

an opportunity to do it a few times, and these

11:43

are actually such personal things that I probably will

11:45

never get into the details or unlikely to get

11:47

into the details of them. The

11:50

amounts aside, it's just

11:53

awesome to hold close to your heart in the moments

11:55

that kind of stick around. So at

11:58

one time, I contracted that veneer. disease.

12:00

It's just always with me. Everyone

12:04

knows that's a joke because I've never had sex. All

12:06

right. It's been good. Finally

12:09

getting into this topic. All

12:11

right. How to contract any venereal

12:13

disease you like. I've actually

12:15

been trying it. It hasn't worked. All right.

12:17

So this is kind of a

12:19

four-step process and

12:21

there's a lot to say for every one of these steps, but

12:24

a lot of people don't know about these steps so maybe

12:26

you can kind of think through them. You can definitely apply

12:29

them to your own life and your own fitness goals, but

12:32

especially for the purposes of this podcast, I

12:34

think it's really good to see these as like a process

12:36

you could try to explain a little bit to

12:38

folks in your life that have been struggling with getting kind of

12:40

a fitness bug, you

12:43

know, that habit because people work out for a few months

12:45

when they fall off and they know they're supposed to be

12:47

working out. They feel better when they do, but they just

12:49

can't catch into it. So here's the successful one for anything

12:51

you like in life. One through

12:53

four, I'll start with point number one. Number one,

12:56

this is important, is to find

12:58

out what you're good at and there's a

13:00

reason this comes first. It's

13:03

because even

13:05

if you like a thing at the beginning, you

13:10

might not like it for a long time.

13:12

There's a lot of stuff I'm like, cool,

13:14

and then a couple hours, minutes, hours, weeks

13:16

or days or weeks later, I'm like, meh.

13:20

And there's a lot of stuff that as an

13:22

adult who's mature, you can try out and have

13:24

quite a bit of patience with even if you

13:26

don't love it right away. Don't worry, liking it

13:28

is preview point number two. But

13:30

point number one is to find out what you're

13:33

good at and that means

13:35

trying a bunch of different

13:37

stuff and for lack of

13:39

a better term, seeing what holds,

13:42

what takes as they say in gardening

13:46

because you're unlikely to continue to perseperate

13:48

for a long time at things that

13:50

suck. And actually, here's another

13:52

point. Another way to

13:54

interpret this idea of point one is

13:57

find out what you're good at, especially in fitness, especially

13:59

if you're good at. out of very good shape is at

14:02

least try some kinds of fitness that

14:04

don't absolutely suck. Let me give one

14:06

example, Mr. Nick Schon. I'm sure you're

14:08

full of super wise shit to say

14:10

on this. Let's say

14:13

you're really, really

14:15

overweight. There's a high probability

14:18

that jogging ain't it. There's

14:20

a high probability that yoga for

14:23

now ain't it. But

14:25

one of the reasons why lifting is such a cool

14:27

thing and there's lifting is not for

14:29

everyone. But people who are

14:32

significantly overweight can not hate lifting because

14:34

a couple reps at a time isn't

14:36

terrible. And they can find out that a

14:38

lot of people who overweight being that they

14:40

carry themselves around, man,

14:43

they actually can fucking lift some pretty decent

14:45

weight right away and at least

14:47

don't hate it. And so you're like, okay,

14:49

I'm supposed to be working out and I'm quite overweight.

14:52

Guys, I don't know if this dates the shit out

14:54

of Nick and I, but Nick, when you were a

14:57

kid, when I was a kid for sure, I guess

14:59

I'm like, what, like five years ish older than you?

15:01

No, three, three, four, three, four. I

15:04

got the average. Working

15:06

out to a lot of people

15:08

still is synonymous with jogging. And

15:12

that's both awesome because jogging is great, but also

15:14

an immense disservice to most people who a lot

15:16

of people just, that's not your thing, man. It's

15:18

going to take you, you're going to have to

15:20

get in such good shape to get something out

15:22

of jogging to be able to do

15:25

enough jogging that it's tolerable, that it's just not

15:27

your entry point. So if you're

15:29

good at walking around the block, which is just

15:31

don't terribly suck at it, you can catch some

15:33

wind doing it. If you're decent at lifting things

15:35

and picking them up and putting it down, it's

15:38

something you can at least, even if you don't

15:40

love it, be like, this is

15:43

a thing that I can do and feel

15:45

okay about versus a thing I can do

15:47

and just know for a fact I suck.

15:49

I'm trying to think through this because you're

15:51

point one and point two. Very much kind

15:54

of reversed. Could be reversed. Could

15:56

be, man, because I'm thinking so I can

15:58

give some personal examples. I'm decently

16:00

athletic played sports all growing up.

16:03

Whatever. Like I wanted to pursue

16:05

jujitsu. I remember walking in day

16:08

one. I felt like a

16:10

pathetic piece of shit. I could

16:13

not do anything. They're

16:15

like shrimp. And I'm like, I don't. I'm

16:17

like, what? No, I can't. No,

16:19

I can't do that. And I'm like decently athletic. So

16:21

it's like you start with

16:23

what you're good at. I

16:26

got it. Nick. I got it. I got it.

16:28

I got it. I didn't mention something super critically

16:30

important because I'm only looking at the outline and

16:33

not the notes that usually don't speak for notes.

16:35

That's for the progress channel. The process of finding

16:37

out what you're good at usually

16:39

takes weeks. And

16:42

is often in comparison to either your

16:45

average experience at things like that or

16:47

how other people are doing. Let's

16:50

say you're an overweight woman in her 50s. You

16:52

go and do some jogging with

16:55

your girlfriends, some cycling classes, some

16:57

Zumba and a weightlifting class. And

16:59

you realize that you do a couple of those classes for

17:02

a few weeks at a time and you realize like the

17:04

lifting class, you start to catch some

17:06

real wind under your sails more than the others. You

17:08

start to get stronger than your girlfriends and you're like,

17:11

I'm got a kind

17:13

of knack for this. And

17:17

that kind of transitions us into point number

17:19

two. So, so real quick. So

17:21

sorry, go ahead. There was a book. It was

17:23

written. It was

17:25

like a study of people in the 1980s. I

17:28

know I've mentioned it before but it

17:30

was like kids that did piano, kids

17:32

that did some art stuff, kids that

17:35

did tennis and swimming.

17:37

I think there was a fifth thing. But

17:40

this was a very common theme. It's like they kind

17:42

of had to be forced to do some stuff at

17:44

the very beginning. Yeah, nobody wants

17:46

to do tennis the fuck. Right.

17:49

Because no one's really naturally that good

17:51

at something right off the bat. Not

17:53

right away, correct. But it now

17:57

for this this was a kid's when they're like. in

18:00

the 6-9 age range, somewhere along

18:02

in there. Once they started

18:04

doing it and they got proficient

18:06

at it, then

18:09

they started to gain some momentum as

18:11

people started to acknowledge them for being

18:13

good at this. And it

18:15

was like a self-fulfilling prophecy at that point

18:17

because they were starting to get notoriety for

18:19

that particular activity and it just kind of

18:21

fed their ego, so to speak, and they

18:23

just wanted to keep doing that more and

18:26

more and more. Yes, and the

18:28

kind of notoriety that's important in adults is kind

18:30

of self notoriety. You're like really feeling your swag

18:32

at something. You're like, alright, I can do this.

18:34

Here's the thing, if you're really exploring

18:36

the fitness landscape, you should try a bunch of different stuff

18:39

and invest a little bit of time, like a

18:41

few sessions, a few weeks into it and see

18:43

if something catches. And

18:45

transitioning to point number two, the underlying assumption in

18:47

point number two and point number two is find

18:49

out what you like to do. That

18:51

is, find out what you like to do

18:53

in that realm over the things that you're

18:56

good at because you're going to be pretty

18:58

good at a few things or at least

19:00

competent. And so

19:02

for example, let's say you

19:05

tried a cardio kickboxing class, a

19:07

Zumba class, a yoga class, and

19:10

a lifting class. You really

19:12

caught some wind in yoga and you really caught some wind

19:14

in lifting. The other two, you tried them for weeks, you're

19:16

like, fuck this, I'll commit straight up suicide if I have

19:18

to keep doing these, get me the fuck out of here.

19:20

Don't worry, you might come back to them later when you're

19:23

in much better shape, but for now, it's okay to just

19:25

lean into a few things. There's

19:28

a concept in military strategy

19:31

called a salient, and that's when there's kind

19:33

of a break in the lines and you

19:35

push your forces in this long

19:38

spike into enemy

19:40

territory. And then you solidify around

19:42

it and expand a little bit. And that's the new

19:44

shape of the frontline, kind of like Nick, like the

19:47

Battle of the Bulge in World War II. You

19:50

can't really hope to advance across the

19:52

entire frontline in modern warfare because like

19:54

the fuck, there's a huge defensive advantage

19:56

and all that. So you have to

19:58

break in somewhere. So you

20:00

try a bunch of different stuff and

20:02

you form a salient on the stuff

20:04

that you're decent at. And then your

20:06

next job is to

20:08

find out what do you like to

20:11

do of those things

20:13

that you should probably keep doing them, at

20:15

least a few of them, or

20:17

think pretty hard if you just want to

20:19

pick one. You're like, all the things that

20:21

I'm decent at, what do I really

20:24

like to do? Back when

20:26

I was in high school, I was decent at

20:28

wrestling and decent at lifting, but as I

20:31

grew up and went from a ninth grade

20:33

to 10th grade, I

20:35

realized that like, ooh, yeah, I

20:39

like wrestling, but I really,

20:41

really like lifting. And

20:44

the liking part is also something

20:46

that doesn't typically happen right away.

20:48

It takes some time. Being

20:50

competent at a thing and seeing some fucking results, which

20:53

is the being good at work, that

20:55

really helps. Nick, imagine going to

20:57

the gym and seeing no increase in range

20:59

of motion or strength or reps or anything.

21:01

I mean, fuck, dude, I quit. But

21:04

if you're able to put some weight on the bar every time,

21:06

get a little deeper in your squat, you're noticing some changes in

21:08

your body, you might

21:10

like it a little bit. And

21:12

if it's really your jam momentum, you might

21:14

like it more and more and more of a

21:16

time. So underlying this thing,

21:19

and I said it's a four step guide

21:21

to success than anything, definitely success and fitness.

21:23

But like, nobody said the shit

21:25

was going to be easy, bro, but you

21:27

can do due diligence on this and really

21:29

take, you know, six months

21:32

or a year total to really

21:34

start to explore what it is you're

21:36

going to become good at. Simple, but

21:38

not easy. Correct. So

21:40

much of life. So the finding out what

21:42

you like to do, that's definitely a thing.

21:46

And the more you like it, the better. And

21:48

I'll tell you guys one special, special secret. The

21:52

vast majority of people that are ultra

21:54

successful love what they

21:56

do because the amount

21:58

of work required. become really

22:00

good at damn near anything worthwhile

22:03

is so preposterous is so

22:06

obscene is so life sucking

22:09

that if you don't really

22:11

like it at least after months

22:13

and years of doing it. May

22:16

you need probably keep doing that

22:18

thing. What's like when you got chances

22:20

are against you when you talk about motivation right

22:22

you end up with it just being part of

22:24

your identity i feel like that's very similar concept

22:26

there. Yes

22:29

i love lifting and so

22:31

you mentioned something or they get super

22:33

super important. Like life is gonna

22:35

ebb and flow you're gonna have some periods like

22:37

maybe you just love lifting or anything else be

22:39

might have some periods where for whatever reason stuff

22:42

going on in your life. You

22:44

you dip off a little bit maybe don't stop entirely

22:46

but you might pick up something new for a while

22:49

and i definitely do that myself i was

22:51

going to get you are still across that

22:53

was kind of my little experiment. I'm

22:56

like let's try some new

22:58

stuff and i got competent

23:01

some of them i never yeah i never really got

23:03

good across it just cuz i couldn't like i couldn't

23:06

do the gymnastics it's not my not my

23:08

cup of tea. But

23:11

then i just

23:13

fell back into lifting and like now cuz i

23:15

think now that i'm retired on my own plan

23:17

competing and i'm just like maybe i

23:20

can start to dabble in some other stuff

23:22

and i'm like i don't really want to

23:24

i just wanna live here i can stick.

23:26

Walk and be relatively lean and i don't

23:28

know try to get stronger that's fun i love

23:31

it yeah yeah i

23:33

agree 100%. So

23:37

you're good at some shit over the shit that you're good

23:39

at you find out what you like let's

23:41

say lifting is the thing that survived. But

23:44

you didn't want to just lift or just be in

23:47

fitness you wanted to be good at it let

23:49

me tell you this a lot of people who've

23:51

been lifting for a year already love it but

23:53

some of them. How

23:55

do i phrase this best kind of

23:58

like when do i. become

24:00

really jacked. And that

24:03

brings us to point number three. Again,

24:05

we're talking about success

24:08

at something. A lot of

24:10

good things happening from it. You

24:13

gotta do it for a long time.

24:15

Point number three is literally do it

24:17

for a long time. The

24:19

long time can be examined on

24:22

independent timescales. It means

24:24

that in a

24:26

day, we're talking about hours. For

24:29

fitness pursuits, half an hour, an hour

24:31

a day on average, maybe more. We're

24:34

talking about many days of the

24:36

week. You ain't gonna get good

24:38

at lifting training once a week

24:41

or twice a week. You could be

24:43

competent at it and get some good health

24:45

benefits, but you're not gonna transform your

24:47

physique completely with two days a week

24:49

of lifting. And remember, if

24:52

you're decent at it, pretty good at it. If

24:54

you like it, you know, lifting

24:56

five days a week is a fucking no-brainer. You're

24:59

gonna wanna lift five days a week. For scheduling reasons, I had

25:01

to punt my leg workout from

25:04

today to tomorrow, Nick. And

25:06

last night, I was so overreached, I was

25:08

like, thank God, fuck this. I hate lifting

25:10

a training legs. I'm midway through the day

25:12

today after I finished my video recording with

25:14

Scott, I was like, do

25:16

I have time to still scoot in legs today? I

25:19

want it out fucking pain again, man. And I can't wait

25:21

for my workout tomorrow. I'm like, okay, fine, fine, I'm still

25:23

addicted to lifting. So even

25:25

just missing a day of lifting for me is like, oh

25:27

fuck, I wanna do it. And so

25:30

that long time, I can phrase it

25:32

another way. Getting good at something requires

25:34

years of effort, years. People

25:36

often ask, do I have good genetics for XYZ? I'm like,

25:39

do it for years and you'll find out. There's

25:42

no other way to do it. And here's another way to

25:44

think about it. If you're pretty good at it and

25:47

you like to do it, how long, the question of

25:49

how long should I do it for until I become

25:51

successful can get replaced with

25:54

a statement. The statement is, I hope

25:57

I get to do it for as long as I can.

26:00

You see it much less

26:02

as, okay, I got to invest

26:04

time into this and then I'll be great.

26:07

Like let's take like a musical career, for

26:09

example. I'll pick someone who's

26:11

really fucking weird and pretend I know them,

26:13

Kanye West. Do

26:16

you guys think that Kanye, every time, we dropped

26:18

out of college and when he was recording studios

26:20

for hours and days and weeks on end, because

26:22

Kanye's known for a lot of crazy shit, but

26:25

no one's ever questioned his work ethic, I'll tell

26:27

you that. Do you

26:29

guys think he was like, man, I can't wait

26:31

to be done in this stupid fucking studio.

26:34

I can't wait to be done writing songs

26:36

that define the generation of hip hop. I

26:39

just can't wait to be a billionaire and to

26:41

be fucking Kim Kardashian and

26:43

be right around in limos and being

26:45

important. I guarantee you that guarantee is

26:47

a joke. Nearly guarantee

26:49

you that never happened because

26:51

Kanye was probably like in

26:54

his writing of song shit and in

26:56

his studio time, I guarantee you it

26:58

was the goddamn flow state of his

27:00

life. And he was

27:02

exactly where he wanted to be. And he

27:05

probably thought to himself multiple times in that

27:07

studio, I hope this never ends, bro. Do

27:10

you think he's performing on a fucking concert stage and

27:12

he's like, man, how long is the show again, fellas?

27:14

You know, when the backup singers are singing, he's like,

27:16

hey, can you guys hear me? Am I

27:18

done yet? Almost certainly doesn't happen

27:21

as he is performing in year five of his career,

27:23

your 10 of his career in your 15. He's

27:26

probably just taking it all in and going, God damn, this

27:28

is the fucking life. So if you're looking

27:30

to be successful, one of the,

27:32

here's an example, Nick, like, uh, you'll probably relate to this a

27:34

lot. You've been around

27:36

a lot of this kind of stuff. The um, retire

27:39

early crowd, the idea

27:41

of that, what do I do to

27:43

be able to retire early, to retire young? Like

27:45

how do I position my life? Fire. Yeah.

27:49

Uh, the fire crowd. What is that? Financially

27:51

independent retire early retire early. It's like

27:53

respect to that. Respect,

27:56

respect. It's your life. If

27:58

it's dope, but like Bill Gates. Elon

28:01

Musk, Sam Altman,

28:03

they ain't asking that question, man.

28:06

Elon Musk's going to buy at his

28:08

desk designing a fucking engineering drawing. I

28:11

guarantee you that shit, right? So

28:14

take another guy like Alex

28:17

Hormozi, famously and

28:19

kind of self-referentially,

28:22

$100 million net

28:25

worth. All he does is work all day.

28:27

You get a chance to meet him and chat with

28:29

him and all his, him and his wife do not

28:31

have to work anymore. They're too goddamn rich, but

28:34

they still work all fucking day. So the do it

28:36

for a long time thing, even just a statement of

28:38

fact that you have to do something for a long

28:40

time that's going to make you better. Of course it's

28:42

also that, but it's like, if you

28:44

are good at it and you like to do

28:47

it, you should want to do

28:49

it for a long time. Like

28:51

I've had a couple of questions, Nick, I've been on a few podcasts

28:53

lately where they're like trying to

28:55

get me totally understandable to like explain

28:57

my life success, like YouTube success. Like

29:00

what was your vision for YouTube? And I was like,

29:02

I never had a fucking vision for shit. I talk

29:04

about you. I'm like, Nick's the guy with the vision,

29:06

man. I'm just the guy that does a shitload of

29:08

work, but I love the work. So it doesn't matter

29:11

if YouTube blows up and now we still doing this

29:13

fucking thing. If you can take

29:15

that mindset, the probability

29:17

of you not being successful

29:19

falls dramatically. But if

29:21

you like pants like a fucking dog

29:24

at the door when the owner's pulling

29:26

in the driveway, you just can't wait

29:28

for stuff to happen. I'm just tired

29:30

of having to put in the work

29:32

and I'm not betting on you.

29:35

You know what I mean? I wrote down three things, three

29:37

notes. They're really successful people.

29:39

They're obsessed with it. Like when you were talking

29:41

about Kanye, I couldn't help but picture. I don't

29:43

know if this is true or not, but

29:46

like I almost guarantee you when Kanye is not in the

29:48

studio, especially when he was a little bit probably younger, a

29:50

little bit, a little bit hungrier. Did

29:52

you know all he's doing is writing

29:54

down lyrics and everything he sees, everything

29:58

he talks about is all. just

30:00

like leading to that. It's just constantly

30:02

making notes. And like, I

30:04

know some people will be like, yeah, that sucks, man. That's

30:06

a shitty way to live. But like, dude, I think there's

30:08

some real beauty in that. Like when you really love what

30:10

you do, like, I

30:13

fucking love it, man. It takes

30:16

a different mindset. It takes

30:18

a different, different mindset. And

30:23

success is unusual, so you're gonna be different.

30:25

You have to be an outlier by definition,

30:27

for sure. But it takes

30:29

this different mindset of just never

30:33

really wanting to settle, never wanting to

30:35

be average. You just, I don't

30:39

have that viewpoint, so I can't even begin to

30:41

speculate as to how that might feel. Although, I

30:43

don't know, I guess there's probably some areas in

30:45

my life where I'm entirely average.

30:48

Don't just. I'm below

30:50

average in most areas of my life. And

30:53

in anatomy. Yeah, we're not

30:56

just talking about anatomical differences that

30:58

we can't do anything about, do genetics. But

31:01

I don't wanna be average, man. Like, I

31:04

wanna do more. I wanna do more. And

31:06

here's my thing, here's how I've weirdly

31:10

talked to myself in my own head about it. It was

31:12

like, well, why is that? Well,

31:15

yeah, why is that? Well, because I can't.

31:17

Because not everyone has that mindset. Not everyone

31:20

wants to do it. So

31:22

it's like this burden and responsibility, but

31:24

like, I love that. Yeah,

31:27

what is it? The Loki from the Marvel

31:29

movies called it a burdened

31:31

with glorious purpose. It's

31:35

a bit extreme, but nonetheless, like, but

31:38

doing it for a long time. Yes,

31:41

doing it for a long time requires the

31:43

I'm here to stay mentality. Like,

31:47

if you're working at a secret

31:49

research facility on one of the moons of

31:51

Neptune to create the ultimate cyborg

31:54

and the last shuttle to Earth for the

31:56

next six months leaves, you're staying and you're

31:58

fidgeting with that cyborg. And when they come

32:00

back, you did it. You

32:03

don't go home and enjoy the

32:05

holidays with your family. You

32:07

can and you do, but not

32:09

when you're building something great. And of course, it's

32:11

just an analogy. Of course, you can go home

32:13

and see your family, but you're back there on

32:15

the Neptune station as soon as possible, bro. And

32:19

you want to be there because you're good at it

32:21

and you like to do it. Nobody has

32:24

to tell Roger Federer to go play tennis. It's

32:26

nonsense, right? And

32:28

look at this, there

32:31

are plenty of athletes at the

32:33

high school level, some even at the college level.

32:35

The coach has to make them go to practice. The

32:38

fraction of those mof-mockers that end up in

32:40

the league is insanely small because when you

32:42

get to the league and other people have

32:44

been pushing you to do it, you

32:47

line up against the fucking all-American O-line and

32:49

someone puts that fucking hurting on you, you're

32:51

going to be like, why the fuck am

32:54

I here? Michigan, I

32:56

mean, they recruit well, but they are

32:58

always wanting to go recruit people that just eat,

33:01

live, slept football because he kind of has

33:03

some of the prima donnas and like that's

33:07

going to erode culture. It's tough. But

33:09

when you have people that just love it, it's

33:12

their life. Like, dude, Jim

33:14

Harbaugh straight up a psycho man. Oh,

33:17

it takes that. Yeah. And

33:20

you're like, well, he's coaching the Super Bowl.

33:22

He's won a national championship called football. There's

33:24

a reason because our family is obsessed, right?

33:27

It's crazy how good it is. But so,

33:29

real quick, I had one other thing. So I was

33:32

talking about time horizon. You

33:34

got to think in terms of years and even

33:36

decades on this scale to really, really be at

33:39

the top. And I've had

33:41

the privilege of being around some of the

33:43

top people in their respective sports, you know,

33:45

like Olympic medalists, CrossFit Games champions. They've

33:48

been doing it forever. They

33:50

do it for multiple, multiple hours a

33:52

day. It's so impressive. But they're not,

33:55

you know, when they were younger, when they were getting

33:57

after, they're not thinking in terms of days and weeks

33:59

and months. else. They think

34:01

in terms of years and decades because that's

34:03

what it really takes to get to greatness.

34:06

Because listen, you can get good

34:08

results from doing whatever. A couple

34:10

years you'll be there. It's really man, to really

34:12

make it it's years and decades and that's what

34:14

really sets people apart. It's having that discipline to

34:17

do it over the long term and it's just

34:19

that because there's no other way you have to

34:21

have that love because there's no other way when

34:23

you have to do it day in and day

34:25

out for that's a decade straight. You

34:27

can't not love it because there's no way you're going

34:29

to make it. No, it's highly

34:32

unlikely. And guys, when Nick said

34:34

the best, he also, he definitely means the best

34:36

to do it. The best in the world or

34:38

in high school or whatever, but he

34:41

also just means the best that you

34:43

are capable of doing for yourself. Your

34:45

best level of fitness is going to

34:48

take you decades. Nick,

34:50

when did you start lifting weight? Told me. 13.

34:54

So you got your pro card 22

34:57

years after you started

34:59

lifting. Did you plan

35:01

to be a pro? Yes and no. I mean,

35:03

in my early 20s. I really wanted, you know, 18 to, let's call

35:08

it probably 25, was what I really, really, really wanted.

35:10

24 probably. And then it took

35:14

a backseat due to some other priorities, but then, you

35:16

know, like things get out of the way. You know,

35:18

like family, kids, you know, RP.

35:20

RP. Yeah. Yeah. And then

35:25

the constant common denominator is you were good at

35:27

lifting. I kept lifting all. You liked

35:30

it. Of course. And you kept lifting. You never just gave it up. And so for

35:32

you to get back into

35:34

content shape was a matter of two shows. Tune up

35:36

show, real show, pro card. Yeah.

35:39

Well, it was the focus. I stopped doing all the other things. Started

35:41

lifting six times a week. Cardio,

35:43

stop, jiu jitsu stuff. Crossfit. It's like, well, because

35:46

I had 20 years background of lifting,

35:48

there's solid, solid bit of muscle there. And

35:50

then it wasn't that hard to unveil. Oh,

35:53

I shouldn't say it was. It was actually

35:55

very fucking hard. You

35:57

know, Nick,

35:59

real quick. that I just have to ask because

36:02

the next point we do have to cover but I have

36:04

to ask is bringing this up. Just

36:06

on a personal note of curiosity about your

36:08

journey to becoming an IFB bro bodybuilder,

36:12

if we... let me see how

36:14

it can be. It's logically consistent because the whole going

36:16

back in timeshed gets weird. We

36:18

have an ultra powerful AI completely resimulate

36:20

the universe and it

36:23

rebuilds Nick Shaw and draws out his whole life.

36:25

Same Nick Shaw as always and

36:29

it lets Nick Shaw in his

36:32

college years, late college years, right around the

36:34

time of your first show, maybe

36:37

just after your first show. It

36:39

opens up a portal to that world, to that

36:41

simulation and you walk in, you today and

36:45

what that Nick Shaw has told is like hey don't

36:47

freak out this is you from the future. Remember we

36:49

shut down the simulation after no one's heard it just

36:51

this and this and then so we don't have to

36:53

worry about how he's going to think about this years

36:56

later affects his life. That's not the question. It's

36:58

just for those few minutes that he makes him meet you

37:00

and talk to you. How do you think when

37:03

you tell him he's like so what

37:05

ends up happening to me and if

37:07

you tell him like you become an

37:09

IFB pro, how do you think he'd

37:11

feel about that? I think he'd be

37:13

ecstatic but you did clarify that I

37:15

know then I went

37:17

back in time what I know now. Is that

37:20

correct? You're the real

37:22

you. You walk into a simulation where you meet

37:24

a simulated Nick Shaw that thinks he's the Nick

37:26

Shaw in the real world but he's 22 years

37:28

old. Yeah I thought you don't know that guy doesn't

37:30

know shit. He just knows that some dude just walked out

37:32

of a fucking portal and was like hey I'm you from

37:35

the future. Oh okay. I thought you're that guy's you now.

37:37

I thought you were gonna

37:39

go the route would I change what I want to

37:41

know. No no no. Purely emotive,

37:43

purely in a five minute meeting. Like

37:47

to me if right

37:49

when I was like 15 or 16 years

37:51

old if current me portaled in it

37:53

was like hello I'm you in the future. I

37:55

would be like astounded with how jacked I was.

37:58

I wouldn't be able I

38:00

didn't know anyone until years and years

38:02

later until I went to the Arnold who looked like me. I

38:05

never met anyone that looked like me. I would just

38:07

shit my pants. I wouldn't be able to believe it

38:09

to the extent that I could believe it. I would

38:12

be like, I'm a superhero or something. It'd just be

38:14

wild. I probably want to like touch the weird growth

38:16

hormone horns on my head and be like, what the

38:18

fuck is that? I'd be like, ah, don't worry. That's

38:21

actually drug-free, believe it or not. You just have weird genetics.

38:25

I think it would be cool, but

38:27

I think it wouldn't be the main

38:29

thing that would hopefully stand out. What

38:32

would he be most impressed with? RP. The

38:35

corporate success or the money? 22

38:38

is a weird age. So it might

38:40

be more than money because I freely admit my 20s,

38:42

I was more worried about just trying

38:47

to make a bunch of money in financial success. That's

38:49

so funny. It's more of an ego thing. Where's the-

38:51

Well, you didn't have any money. Yeah,

38:53

it's just really an ego thing. That's

38:55

also true. We both came from nothing. That

38:59

skews a little bit as well. I

39:01

would hope to impart a lot of wisdom on that 22-year-old.

39:04

That took me a long time to build up and probably only

39:06

until the last couple of years where I've started to realize it

39:08

a bit more. I

39:10

kind of impart some of that wisdom earlier

39:13

because that would have been really cool. Yeah,

39:15

not for sure. All

39:17

right. So that little tangent was nice.

39:19

So far, what do we have? We

39:21

have. Find out what you're good at,

39:24

competent at, trying a bunch of stuff. All

39:27

of the things that you're good at, find out which of

39:29

them you like to do the most. And that's going to-

39:31

both of those take time. They're going to take weeks and

39:33

weeks and weeks each, if not longer. So you've got to

39:35

have some grit. Once you like something, it takes much less

39:37

grit to do it, arguably not much. Every

39:39

now and again, occasionally, you've got to push the pace a little bit. You

39:42

do it for a long time. Years, years,

39:45

years, years, years. But

39:48

during the doing it is 0.4. And

39:50

this is a very, very big part of becoming

39:52

successful. As you do it,

39:54

you don't just do the thing. You

39:58

vary it. You- change

40:01

things up, you see

40:03

what causes an even

40:06

marginal, marginally

40:08

disproportionate amount of improvement

40:11

in your abilities, and

40:13

you keep a little bit more

40:15

of that in, keep a little bit

40:17

less of the stuff that doesn't seem to be working

40:19

that well in, always keeping

40:21

in some variation and experimentation for

40:24

new things that come along, and

40:26

that way in your

40:29

process of giving years to something, you lean

40:32

into the shit that works better, lean

40:35

away from the shit a little bit that works not so

40:37

well, consistently introduce new things in

40:39

the equation so you can have some variation

40:41

to kind of fuck with, and

40:44

then over time you end up getting better

40:46

and better and better at the thing, not just as a

40:48

result of investing time in it, which is the biggest way

40:50

it helps, but also leaning into

40:52

what works. For example, for like just

40:54

an example of not fitness really necessarily

40:56

is like YouTube success that we've had, find

40:59

out it was pretty good at public speaking, I realized that

41:01

a long time ago, I like

41:04

it plenty, it was really fun, so it's kept doing it,

41:06

sure shit did YouTube for a long time, we did YouTube

41:08

for a few years before it really blew up, but

41:11

the way it blew up was we varied, we reiterated,

41:13

Scott, Scott the video guy and I were on the

41:15

very same page from early on, like we're never just

41:17

gonna do one thing, and if we discover one thing

41:19

works well, we're never just only gonna do that one

41:21

thing, we're always gonna change it up a little bit,

41:23

we noticed that some things did a little bit better

41:26

than others, we leaned in, we leaned in, we

41:28

leaned in, then the exercise scientist

41:30

review video, things that we did

41:32

really, really well, and then

41:34

we consulted with Chris Williamson and he told

41:37

us how to iterate, vary and improve much

41:39

more logically and scientifically and in a methodical

41:41

manner, and then that really blew us out

41:43

of the water. No one

41:45

has all the right answers of what's gonna work

41:47

well for you, you've gotta try some stuff and

41:49

see what fits and what works best, because let's

41:52

say you're bench pressing with a certain grip that

41:54

someone told you was optimal, but you never vary,

41:56

you never change it, you might have been your

41:58

best bench presser as a close grip. presser. Some

42:00

people can press their best closer than

42:02

you would think. Some people break freaky

42:04

wide regulation with everything in

42:06

between. You've got to try different stuff. And

42:09

when it's obvious shit is working, do it

42:11

more. When it's obvious that the shit is

42:13

not so great, do it a little bit

42:15

less. Don't write things off entirely often, but

42:19

you keep on improving in that way

42:21

and you keep altering things. At

42:24

the end of a multi-year, multi-decade long

42:26

process, you're doing a lot of stuff

42:29

that you're good at, you

42:31

like, you've been doing it for a long time,

42:33

and you are now

42:35

a collection of activities that

42:38

is incredibly, incredibly efficacious. Congratulations.

42:42

You might not be the best of all time, but goddamn,

42:44

you've had a lot of success. Another example

42:46

really quick is like you started wanting to

42:48

get bigger legs. So first, you had a

42:50

knack for bigger legs and pretty good genetics.

42:52

You liked to train legs. You trained legs

42:55

for a long time, but over the time

42:57

that you were training them, you realized that

42:59

high bar squats are really quite fitting really

43:01

well for you. Hack squats, you tried them a

43:03

bunch, it didn't really work. Leg presses were great.

43:05

By the way, random example of this doesn't apply

43:07

to me. And then over time, you

43:10

got to enormous legs, mostly through high bar

43:12

squatting and leg pressing. Someone else could have

43:14

done it through hack squats and lunges, but

43:17

you've got to follow the old body's responses

43:19

of what works well.

43:21

I just sent you a video this

43:23

morning on Instagram. I started following this

43:25

startup page. It's like a lot of

43:29

the big tech companies from the

43:31

real early days. Oh,

43:33

it's so good. Just the 90s

43:35

and late 80s kitsch is amazing. People's outfits,

43:38

you're like, Jesus Christ, you wore that to

43:40

an IPO? Fuck.

43:43

But the thing that one of them's talking

43:45

about, he's like, you don't know the answers.

43:47

You have a good idea because you're probably

43:49

creating stuff that you like personally, and that's

43:51

a big part of it. But at the

43:53

same time, you can't possibly know all the

43:55

answers. Mike, we started with Excel files and

43:57

then we iterated learn, iterated learn, or well,

43:59

learn. iterated learned it or sorry, I should say it

44:01

the other way. But it's like, you know,

44:03

we this goes back

44:05

to your, the video that you said is

44:07

doing really well about like overcoming failure, because

44:09

that's the same thing. So you iterate, you

44:11

test stuff, you learn, like a lot of

44:13

shit's not going to work very well. No,

44:15

fail a ton, get ready to fail a

44:17

ton. Don't sweat that. Don't take it any

44:19

statistically. So you were talking about YouTube. But

44:21

like, that's how I approached running Instagram. Because

44:23

up until like a couple years ago, I

44:25

ran our Instagram entirely myself. Like I was

44:27

literally the only person that ever had the

44:30

login for it. So if you got a message from

44:32

RP strength, like the Instagram page from literally the day

44:34

it started to I don't know, something like summer of

44:36

2022, like you were talking to me, you just

44:39

didn't know it, because I didn't go around telling everybody,

44:41

but like, intense, treated as a game. And so like,

44:43

you have some stuff you think is gonna work great,

44:45

you throw it out there and it's dog shit. No

44:47

one gives a fuck about it. And you're like, that

44:49

sucks. It's tempting to just want to

44:51

quit and be like, man, I suck. I'm terrible. But then

44:53

you just keep throwing stuff at it. And you're like, Oh,

44:55

okay, well, I didn't expect that to work. But it did

44:58

really well. Okay, I wonder why that was. And

45:00

so like, dude, I remember kind of being on the early edge

45:02

or some of the trends, because like we started doing giveaways and

45:04

all that with a bunch of other big companies. And we get

45:06

like 1000 2000 new followers a

45:08

day from doing something giveaway. Like we were kind of

45:10

early on that. And all of a sudden, like everyone

45:12

started doing it, right? Because it's all copycat stuff. And

45:15

then it's like, well, it stopped working. So it's like,

45:17

all right, well, now we got to go back to

45:19

the drawing board. Now we got to switch. And so

45:21

like, you're gonna run into that. Because it very well

45:23

might be the case on YouTube. And I'm not gonna

45:25

I'm what hope doesn't happen. But like, maybe sometimes people

45:27

won't hear about you know, exercise science. Absolutely. Scott and

45:30

I fully prepared for YouTube to completely tank

45:32

and shit the bed. And when

45:34

it inevitably has its ups and downs, we

45:37

are going to try to our best to will

45:39

sell that shit and go Okay, what can we

45:41

do to do our best? What next can we

45:43

do? Things always go up and down. Yep, yep,

45:46

yep. Things always go up and down. A lot of

45:48

it is just really the consistency though. And sometimes

45:50

you just get on a little bit of a hot streak

45:52

and you can ride that for a long time and absolutely

45:54

should take advantage of it. But you know, there's going to

45:57

be ebbs and flows and that should be expected just like

45:59

I mean, whatever. trained for the longest time

46:01

and didn't try anything CrossFit, jiu-jitsu related and

46:03

I tried it, whatever. I did okay, Adam.

46:05

I was like, No, I want

46:07

to get back to lifting. Get back into if

46:09

you want to take the fitness analogy. But yet,

46:12

there's a book on this called the lead

46:14

startup by Erica Rice Reese, forget

46:17

how to say his name, but it's just

46:19

a lean startup. Yep, that's the same idea.

46:21

It's you basically get out a

46:23

minimum viable product, you throw it out there, you see what's

46:25

up, and you're gonna learn a bunch and you

46:27

come back to the drawing board, you tweak tweak

46:30

and tinker things and then you learn what

46:32

works. You keep all the stuff that works

46:34

and you throw in some new stuff and

46:36

you just keep repeating that process and over

46:38

time things get a lot better guys there

46:40

it is man. There's your formula. Find

46:44

out what you're good at by experimenting and

46:47

putting in some time. Find out what you like

46:49

to do. Do that thing you like to do or those

46:51

things you like to do for a long, long time, you

46:53

will become very good at them. And

46:55

it will continue improving and something to stay

46:58

at a really high comp jet level that you're going to have

47:00

to continue to do is very

47:02

learn, alter, lean into the good stuff, lean

47:04

away from the stuff that doesn't seem to

47:06

work, always explore and experiment and you're

47:08

going to be in for a really awesome ride.

47:11

So whatever it is in life that you're doing,

47:13

definitely everything in fitness and follows this whole process.

47:15

Yeah, be patient, but

47:17

keep going and keep trucking along, keep

47:19

doing it long enough for the degree

47:21

of success will vary. Not

47:23

saying everyone's going to become an IFBB Pro or

47:25

become a fucking billionaire because that's not the case,

47:27

but you will get more success than you would

47:29

have otherwise had. And sometimes it's just the best

47:31

that you can do. But you know,

47:34

for some people that might be getting 25,000 YouTube subscribers,

47:36

and that's all they need to make a really great

47:38

living. I think that's sometimes overlooked, right? Because people want

47:40

all these big numbers and go, well, you've got million

47:42

or you got whatever number it is. It's like, you

47:45

might not need that. You might not want

47:47

it. You're saying imagine thinking

47:49

like you're a failure. When you

47:51

get to make a great living in a modern

47:54

country, and your job is to

47:56

put up fucking videos on an internet site

47:58

with the fuck kind of spoiled piece of

48:00

shit that we become like, yeah, but it's only 80,000 a year. Motherfucker.

48:03

Are you out of your mind? Your

48:06

dad had to work on a fucking coal mine. Yeah.

48:09

That's wild man. Progress. It's amazing.

48:12

Um, folks. Yeah, there you have it. I mean, try

48:14

to just apply that, uh, these four steps. See

48:17

what happens. Let us know. Show me a DM on

48:19

Instagram. I'd love to hear some success. A DM on

48:21

Instagram guys. And also shoot them a DM. If you

48:23

think you've hit some stumbling blocks in this process and

48:25

your journey to success in fitness or anything else, if

48:28

you've hit some stumbling blocks, we'd love to hear about

48:30

them. Cause we can do kind of an infinite number

48:32

of Q and a episodes where we help people out

48:34

with the problems that they're facing. Cause again, like Nick

48:36

said, this is the lean startup model. We don't know

48:38

all the answers, but if you guys give us problems

48:41

to work on, we can definitely help. Yeah. And

48:43

folks, thanks for tuning in. We appreciate it. We will

48:45

catch you on the next episode. Bye.