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week? Man, look every
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week with Twitter. It's some new ship. They're
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saying that. Ellen Musk
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sent out a letter to everybody, going, look, y'all
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gotta work long hours. If y'all about this life, you
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five pm, employees started
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resigning left and right to take the severance.
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So Ellen has, now, it is being
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reported, has locked out hundreds
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of employees because
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they're not sure which ones are the ones to quit,
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and we don't want you coming in here on Monday morning sucking
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up all the computer ship. This is ridiculous,
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Remember, Ralph, remember when I told you my radio
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teath specifically from Chick fil A because it's extra
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sweet, and just throw it on all of the electronics
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in the room that controls everything.
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That's what they're scared it though, So they
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have Ellen right now has hundreds of
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sweet teas on his hands at
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his company. Hey man, a
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man, I wonder how many private
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toilets are in the
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Twitter building. There
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ain't enough turts if you like,
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there are enough turts. But if they
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move as a group, if they move as a group,
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they can get this done.
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These people are resigning
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in record numbers. I don't think they're gonna
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do anything like that.
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I don't know. Ain't nothing wrong with the little third on
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the Walllet eon know how you feel about this ship.
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Gonna be to check it.
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My name Roy,
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this is my job. Fair. Wednesday
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is the most beautiful day of the week. It is
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um do you still call this
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Thanksgiving? What do we call with this? Jack win? The
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day before Thanksgiving? Thanksgiving?
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Eaty the
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festiveness of it all? You
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know, thanks Giving, sir? You
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know, you know why I feel like Thanksgiving doesn't
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get the same love
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as other holidays. You
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don't get ship on Thanksgiving.
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That Valentine's Day you get
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a gift. Halloween you get a gift. Christmas
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you get a gift. Your Birthday you get a gift. Mothers
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Day, bothers me secretary. Thanksgiving,
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just sit around the table
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and and just talk about how lucky
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you are that where's my gift
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at your house? Eating this trash assmcarni,
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why don't you eat somebody's trash macro because
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you'll be trying to be polite for them, because if you standing Thanksgiving
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Thanksgiving, it that that's when the holidays
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is where my make weird ship. And then they stare
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at you while you tried. Like when a rapper
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play your demo players demo for you, he'll be waiting
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for you to nod your head. That's because you're polite.
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The rappers playing the demo while you're at things
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Giving right after the prayer, that that's when it's bad.
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That's when it's bad. But I don't know, man, I gotta
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I gotta actually outside with j G on this when the
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faces she's making everything right about not Look,
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man, we all southern. I don't play about things giving.
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I ain't going to when nobody random house to eat at
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things Giving. I'm too old for that. I can't
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be introduced to new potato salads and
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people trying turkeys for the first time and all
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kind of crap. I need to know where the
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hell I'm eating, bro, I just can't eat nowhere.
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That's like when you got dredged. Just don't let nobody touch
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your hair. I don't eat things Giving dinner anywhere.
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If you are a Gray
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Perry more, you
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know what you're responsible for in
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our house. Bring what your responsive
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before, don't make it differently.
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I don't care what you learned somewhere
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else where you taste is something else, none
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of that mess. Don't put pineapples
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and the banana pudding. What is wrong
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with you who put pineapples
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in the banana push? She knows, she
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knows. Mhmm,
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you are. That's
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like I thought you were just talking in general, but that's a specifically
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got real specific di fast.
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You know. J G is the foodie, so you know she takes
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food serious. So she don't like people disrespecting
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the food. I understand and respect that you got a
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great show. I
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don't want you to say nothing else is gonna ruin your holidays,
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Jacqueline, because right now, but you all done on it,
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so you probably got that thing on your right now. You probably
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want to She is too. It's
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gonna go down some pineapples and some banana
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pudding. Bro, that's what I'm talking about. Everybody
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knows that Poladin's banana
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pudding is the best banana pudding. I
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don't want to hear anything else. Ventriloquist
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Jeff Dunham on the program today,
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we're gonna talk about his Comedy Central special
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that uh is premier and after Thanksgiving.
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If you're hearing us after that, go back on the Paramount
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plus app and dig it up um.
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I opened for Jeff Dunham one time. Third
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was this was this was back and this
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is when he still played regular comedy clubs, like you know,
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he's arena like he don't do less than ten thousand
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seats, does big spots. He does big,
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big, big spots. But like, oh two
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Motherfucker's in Chattanooga on Thursday.
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I got to like that. Last to the
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ticket, Now I'm not I'm not hating. The tickets was
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like fifty dollars. It
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was a fifty dollar ticket on a Thursday night in Chatta,
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Newman. So I got I got to open for him.
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It was a really kind, really cool dude.
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I'm excited to talk to him about the special. And if
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it's anybody that we need to talk to about
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woke culture, maybe
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it's Jeff, because you know, I feel
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like, because everything well
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because with the Ventral, I don't even know what
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to call him. Can we still call him dummies? That
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disrespectful? Are they people? What's
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the new word? Ventriloquist?
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Partners partner Walter
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Seen Partners, the fact
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that he makes jokes that
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are sometimes rooted
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in a stereotype. It started at a stereotype because
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I'm not gonna says his human is not lazy. But
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if he's a white dude doing a Mexican accent on stage
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pretending to be a hall opinion, is the
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fact that he's doing this through ventriloquism
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that's not a word it
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is today? Is
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that why he's able to get away with it? You
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know, because his comedy transcends,
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you know, every age. So I'm excited to
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talk with him and j G understand
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Um a couple
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of emails, let's go ahead and check their is
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job Fair at gmail dot com. We
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have so much good news in the
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inbox and some things that made my
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eyes water as well, but I'll just stay
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We got no more Haydana's Native Americans. Are
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you happy now? Ran the episode
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yesterday? We ran the episode
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this week in the job Fair feet there
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well be
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so mean to I don't know when
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I'm about to tell you that. Thomas McClure,
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a former guest. We talked
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with him about woodland firefighting
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and working at an urban Indian
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vacancies that they are hiring for
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and he wants people to come apply at
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slash careers. Congratulations,
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Thomas, let it go. Good for
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your brother, Thomas, Good for you got
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the promotion. Don't suck it up. Make sure you steal
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ship because sooner or later they're gonna try and come in.
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Just hit me with the greasy friebred bro, that's
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all I asked, the greasy friar need
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that need that. We also have
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things that bring Danielle k joy.
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They are Bob's burger, playing
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a bass guitar, serial a
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lizard, and listening to Roy's job.
8:41
Fair. She wanted you to know that those
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things are all in one group. Wow, that was
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diverse. Thank you, daniel Okay, we appreciate
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you. You're next to a lizard. I'll take that.
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Lizards are pretty cool. And then Daniel
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c enjoyed hearing Rhonda
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talk about her peloton on the
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episode My Wife's Boys,
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How are you doing on your peloton? Rondo?
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Alright, real quick, Cody's most
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Outstanding Employee of the Week, Memphis,
9:08
Tennessee, shot out to Shelby County right
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there on the wonderful, wonderful Mississippi River
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um Fox thirteen.
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The news crew at Fox thirteen was out
9:20
there in the stop for lunch
9:23
stop somewhere one one reason
9:25
or another, And when it came back to the old Fox
9:28
thirteen news van, all
9:30
the goddamn cameras was gone. And
9:34
of course you choked that up to insurance and the
9:36
average reporter, which is head back to the station, get
9:38
a new camera from the stock room and keep
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it moving. Jeremy Pierre,
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who was a proud employee of Fox thirteen,
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woke up one morning and check his Facebook
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and he had a message from
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a man named Richard Okay.
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The message to the Fox thirteen employee
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was, hey, Jeremy, how do you work
9:58
the record button on this camera?
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Oh my gosh, son. Underneath
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that comment, it's a picture
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of the man who stole the camera taking
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a picture with the camera, so that Jeremy
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can help him learn how to use this super
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complicated news camera.
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What young gentleman
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by the name of Mookie, probably
10:26
a Mookie. You look at him, be
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looks like a Mookie's got the little braids.
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Wow, I
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love it. If
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you're if you're about to make Mookie, if
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you're about to make Mookie the CMO. Not only
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do I like this, I love this roy both
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of them. I would argue that a
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lot of crimes are crimes of necessity
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because poverty begets the choice
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to be criminalists in
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a lot of instances. Okay, so you
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have Richie, you have Mookie. These two young
10:58
brothers go damn, I really want to make
11:01
TV and movies. How
11:03
do we do it with the camera? We cannot
11:05
afford the camera. Look, the Fox
11:07
thirteen news van is right there, and
11:11
they took that camera and rather than pawn
11:13
it, rather than sell it, rather than
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just let it collect us, they've
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decided that they are going to use it.
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And what better way to use
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your newfound camera than to mention someone
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who you know, knows how to use it. Mookie
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and Richie are simply trying
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to better themselves. Not agree
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with the methods, but I love
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the motivation. I love the tenacity
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and for that. Yes,
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in the name of young Dolf, give it to him.
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You are most outstanding
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employee of the week, brought to you by sackleson
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State motherfucking Community College.
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You don't know what to do with that either, dude. You come
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join our a V club. You two young industrious
12:04
there's a space for you with Sackles. Don't
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you come in this direction. I am
12:09
disappointed in them. If you're gonna take
12:11
it, don't tell people stuff. How
12:13
is it gonna learn to use the cameras? I'll tell you this
12:15
much. When I go to Memphis to do a show, I'm calling
12:17
Muthie. I know you
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better not that
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kid gonna work hard for you. Roy, he go hit
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you back on Twitter like how do I use
12:30
this? What
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if I harm? And then the motherfucker's
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still my microphone or
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your cell phone? We have to run after your cell
12:43
phone? Worst
12:47
and first time, Oh my gosh.
12:50
And it's a pleasure to have this person
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on the show. They have a wonderful
12:55
wonderful comedy specialists coming up,
12:57
Phone Comedy Central,
13:00
IM, Paramount Plus and all of the wonderful
13:02
wonderful streaming sites. J
13:04
G. Who do we have on the line. We have
13:06
Jeff done him. But you said he's
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alone. It doesn't look like he's alone.
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He's got Walter. Wonderful. Thanks,
13:17
good to see. I don't know Iff actually get part of
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this because I heard what you were going to talk about. Ye'll
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be fine, Okay, good, I don't care. Award
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winning and nationally
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globally touring comedian
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and ventriloquist Jeff Donham, welcome to the job.
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There open for you. Man.
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It's like O two comedy catch. This is and
13:40
this is how you know I'm telling the truth. These
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the early years of you selling the Walter
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Dolls, and you sold out
13:47
second show Friday night, and you still had
13:49
two more nights in town. It was like I
13:51
didn't know that they were going to biologies. I just brought
13:53
a couple to see how I would go. People.
13:56
What was it? Where was it? This was Chattanooga,
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the comedy catch. Shout out Michael Alfano.
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Man, Wow, that was a long time
14:04
ago. You remembers
14:06
with a hundred seats anymore? Okay. So when
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I was headlining, they would always give me the nicer hotel.
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There's no nicer hotel. Before
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we get into your early days
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in Ventriloquism. Let's talk for a
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second first about the special Me the People
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November Comedy Central. If you're
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hearing this after November's on the Paramount
14:28
plus, app to Comedy Central app to
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me. Ventriloquism is interesting in that you're
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essentially writing a two person show, but you have multiple
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what is the word I don't want to get canceled up?
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When you were creating this act,
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how difficult is it to keep coming
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up with basically an ensemble
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conversation that's constantly happening
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on stage right. And by the way, this is the eleventh
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special, so uh, I
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don't know, I don't know how many you know.
15:04
I've looked back and and um uh.
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The only record albums that my mom would let
15:09
me have when I was a kid was Bill Cosby
15:12
because he was clean. And so that's the only
15:14
that's the only exposure I had to stand up comedy
15:16
until whatever age. And I
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know that he had a just I
15:22
think he was number one with the number of comedy
15:24
albums of any comedian, number
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one. And so I've still been
15:29
trying to get my people to figure out who
15:31
has the most stand up specials. So
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anyway, Um, I
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think I'm getting there. I'm not. That's that's
15:39
a belt I think you could get. I know Carlin
15:42
had HBOS.
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Oh he did. When Carlin
15:47
died, they sold a box set of all
15:49
of its HBO specials. Run is fun enough
15:51
for me, real quick? Because that one you're
15:55
close, Roy, you know what, that's funny.
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All these people that I pay all these percentages
15:59
to, nobody could come up with that answer. Oh
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my god, So
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take us then, you know, this is the part of show we talked
16:08
about worst jobs and first jobs. I'm putting
16:10
wolver down here. Why a
16:17
second? I just this is way a much more
16:19
interesting conversation than I usually have. Okay,
16:24
the relationship, but I'll tell you a
16:26
story and then you explain to me your process. So
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I opened for ventriloquists
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early on in my career, and this is in the days
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as a road comedian, where as an opener, generally
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your jobs to drive around the headliner
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because we're doing four cities in five days. And
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this particular ventriloquist, as I
16:44
know, I did not have a driver's license. I don't
16:46
know why he didn't have it. Whatever it was, he
16:48
needed me to pick him up and drive him everywhere, and
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he had his wouldn't
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have trying
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to. He
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had is petrified American in
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the front. And we
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stopped in Wisconsin. We're
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headed up to Appleton to play Skyline,
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and we're doing a run up there, and
17:13
we stopped to eat and
17:15
when we go in, he goes to the trunk of
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my car and pulls out the dummy and brings it
17:19
into the restaurant with us and asks for a
17:22
table for three and not to And
17:24
I have to sit with this ventriloquist across
17:27
from his dummy. And I'm just an opener
17:29
and this guy could have me fired. So I can't
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say ship about this. I just gotta let
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the ship roll. The waitress is looking at us weird.
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But what he explained to me was
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I have to have a relationship with him at
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all times so that on stage
17:43
becomes second nature. What
17:46
is your process? Jeff Dunham still
17:50
alive. Yes, he
17:53
is divorced. He drinks a lot more skill
17:57
touring. I'm not here to talk about
18:00
him and his brand, but that
18:02
was a lot for a young twenty year
18:04
old to take
18:07
in a Wednesday
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in Wisconsin. How do you build
18:11
a relationship Because I know also that
18:14
you build all of your all
18:16
of your dumb as you build them, you have a full shop you
18:18
invested in basically
18:20
birthing all of these. I've
18:23
been building them for years, so you
18:26
know, it is something that
18:30
the acting is a lot of a lot of this. And
18:32
I love what I do more than straight monology
18:35
because I can create tension and conflict,
18:38
the two most important ingredients in comedy.
18:41
Because the character and I can
18:43
have a you know, an argument, or
18:45
we can have a difference, or we can have you
18:48
know, we can discuss topics that
18:50
are tough to discuss or talk tough
18:52
to talk about as a straight monologist without giving
18:55
opinions or you know. So um
18:58
That's what I love about what I do is that it is
19:00
a discussion. It's a little sitcomm and
19:03
on itself sitting there on stage. So
19:06
I think that's the reason this cancel culture
19:08
that we have. I'm able to um
19:12
uh talk about those subjects because if
19:14
there's one side of it that I give the dumb, you'll give the other
19:16
and vice versa. Um And let
19:18
me let me say my little speech here. This
19:21
cancel business is just I think it's
19:23
just garbage. And I we all we've all learned a lot.
19:25
We know what we can and can't joke about. Um
19:29
uh. But I also
19:31
think that this country is a lot, people
19:34
in it are a lot have a better sense
19:36
of humor than what the media is saying
19:38
that we do. I think people have learned
19:41
to. I think that people can tell
19:43
a joke and take a joke and um.
19:46
When it comes to politics, I think the mistake
19:48
that a lot of guys are making is that
19:51
they pick a side and then
19:53
they hammer the other side and called them
19:56
both sides do it and call the other side idiots
19:58
and morons. And that's not comedy to pep
20:00
rally. So um,
20:02
I try and go back to the days of Will Roger,
20:05
Bob Hope, Carson Leno, and
20:07
you never knew which side they were actually
20:09
on. And they made
20:11
fun of the guy that was at the top, the guy on the pedestals,
20:14
and one that's gonna get hit with the tomatoes the most. So
20:17
that's who they made fun of. And that's what
20:19
I try to do. When Trump was in office, I had a hell of a lot
20:21
of fun with that, And now Biden's in office. In
20:24
this special, you know, he dressed
20:26
up his Trump and in my other in much of my YouTube
20:29
videos, and now in this special he's dressed up like Biden
20:31
and we have fun with that. But I think people
20:33
from both sides of the aisle can come to the show and have
20:35
fun because it's not mean spirited. It's
20:37
just making making fun of some of the goofy stuff
20:39
that's going on right now. What I
20:42
find interesting about your acting some of the puppets
20:44
that you have is that they covered
20:47
the gamut of stuff. Like I wonder
20:49
if the fact that what you're saying is also through
20:52
a puppet, through a dummy that gets
20:55
that takes the edge off of that. Takes the edge off
20:57
of it a little bit, because if you, Jeff
20:59
Dunn, did an impression of a black pimp,
21:02
people would wait, do
21:04
you know what you're talking about there? But you bring
21:06
out sweet Daddy d Okay,
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I'm making sure, But let me can I tell you the story I
21:12
had that game happen. Okay, So when
21:15
um, I was wanting
21:17
to make fun of prejudice, and this was back
21:20
in I guess my first special
21:22
was yeah, yeah,
21:24
arguing with myself. Oh five was five,
21:27
I think, and I was wanting to make fun of prejudice
21:29
and I thought to me, it would be really funny
21:32
if I had a black character
21:35
that was above me somehow. So
21:37
we start out in the right place. So I made it dynamic
21:40
manager, right, and so then I thought,
21:43
okay, what is what? What is he though? And
21:45
I honestly I researched
21:47
this as much as I could, and somehow
21:50
I looked at I'm so out of my lane
21:52
here talking about this with you guys. But I hope you
21:54
understand you're in the right lane. Bro, come
21:56
on you right, Maybe
21:59
it's the wrong vehicle in the right lane. I don't
22:01
know, no, believe it or not. This is actually
22:04
something um if I couldn't be honest
22:06
Roy, and you know does usually stop me. But this is something
22:08
we actually talked about before you came on, because this is
22:10
something that we were concerned about how
22:12
you managed. So I'm all the
22:14
way in and you gotta
22:16
talking hall openo. You have all
22:19
that stuff. The fact that you've brought that up early to
22:21
me, it's beautiful. I want to hear this well,
22:23
the acmment, the terry, that's the whole diferent
22:25
thing. I could talk about that all day long. But
22:27
with sweet Daddy d what I was trying to do was trying
22:30
to, you know, uh, create
22:32
a character that I could use on stage that could
22:35
make fun of me being this is I'm
22:38
as white as it can possibly be. I'm not this
22:40
color. I'm this color I've
22:44
been doing to TV all morning, right, So
22:46
um. I then and this still
22:49
confounds me, confuses me. I looked
22:51
to a bunch of different uh
22:54
uh celebrities, Black
22:57
celebrities, architantial Snoop
22:59
Dogg was was one of them, and
23:01
everybody kept talking about the pimp
23:04
and how revered the pimp
23:06
was. And again the reasons came out of my lad because
23:09
I don't know what I'm talking about, right, But oh five,
23:11
that's Bishop Magic don Juan, and that's
23:17
the documentaries all came out that year. It was
23:19
a lot of stuff that guy standpoint. I can
23:21
see where that was. Yeah, okay,
23:23
so that's what everybody told me. And then
23:25
I found a couple of black
23:28
stand ups and I said, please
23:31
help me with these jokes. Well, tell
23:33
me, what are the jokes about white people that
23:36
you don't tell when we're not around? And
23:39
I could not. I couldn't squeeze
23:41
blood out of a turn up. Nobody they wouldn't.
23:43
I don't know what it was nobody would tell me a white joke.
23:46
You know, it's not a white joke. White
23:48
joke. Just look, man, I'm
23:50
gonna do you a favor and let you know right now, if you ever
23:53
ever ever have that question again,
23:55
find me brother. So
23:58
you all the white people jokes I have that
24:01
I'd say with no white people around me at
24:03
all. But please continue. I just want to please
24:06
tell me the best one. Please just
24:08
tell me that. I don't care, and let's
24:11
see. But the thing about the thing about it is, at the end of
24:13
the day, most of the black most
24:15
of the time that we make fun of white folks.
24:17
Why all around is very basic things like dancing,
24:20
very easy to jump on that when there's no words
24:22
that need to be said. A lot of times, a lot of
24:24
times, you know, you could just look at me like, okay, that that one
24:26
right there he needs out by the way, when I sculpted
24:29
him. This is a funny story. So what's the
24:31
guy's name, the black
24:33
actor that was in all the I'm so horrible with
24:35
names. Uh, the crazy
24:38
guy, the skinny one, Chris Tucker,
24:40
Chris Tucker Tucker. So um,
24:43
he lived like six houses down for me when
24:46
I was creating Sweet Daddy d I got
24:48
all eight by tens of all
24:50
my favorite of faces
24:52
I do with every character of all the favorite black actors
24:55
that I loved or comedians, and I created
24:58
eight by tens of all of them were like Tim Eyes,
25:00
and I put him all across my work bench and
25:03
in my work bench was in my garage. I had my garage
25:06
door over and Chris Tucker comes down on his uh
25:08
segue, he got a new segue and
25:11
he comes up my driveway. I see him coming. I'm like, oh,
25:13
ship, there's no explain So
25:18
I exactly
25:23
I shut the garage door, like, hey, I'm
25:27
just in here looking at black people. That's it's fine,
25:29
Chris, don't you worry about it. Exactly right.
25:32
So anyway, so that was that was
25:34
into that. But I I love having this
25:36
conversation because it's bothered me for a long long
25:38
time that I could not make that work. I'll tell you that was the
25:40
reason didn't work for me. It's the same reason the female
25:42
character would won't work for me. It's because when
25:45
it would come to add libbing, you
25:48
know, carry on a conversation, I couldn't get
25:50
it right. I can think like a white trash guy, Bubba
25:52
J. I can think like Peanut, that little crazy purple
25:54
guy. I can think like most of the other characters.
25:56
Even a dead terrorist. I get it because he's just angry
25:59
of the world. But when it came to being
26:01
a woman or a black person, I
26:04
had no clue. Given
26:06
instance, if somebody asked the character a question,
26:09
I wouldn't know what to say as a or
26:11
a black guy. So it's like, this is not fun
26:14
for me. I can't do it. I respect that.
26:18
Before we go to break, I want to just talk real quick, because
26:21
you're interested in that. You chose your career very
26:24
early on, like elementary, early on, you
26:26
knew I think it was third or fourth grade, that
26:28
this is what you wanted to do. For parents
26:31
out there who have a child in
26:33
that same age range, how were
26:36
your parents supportive or were they
26:38
against you during ventriloquism,
26:40
because I told my mom about stand Up when I was nineteen,
26:42
and she was like, you third
26:45
fourth grade told your parents what you
26:47
wanted to do. How did your parents
26:50
pour into you to help make your job? The
26:52
first kind of is that I was adopted
26:54
and uh an only child, so that sent
26:57
me apart a little bit from most the other kids.
26:59
The other thing was I I was I was terrible at sports.
27:01
I was not popular with the girls, I was not popular
27:03
with other kids. I didn't have anything going for me.
27:06
It was no good, no sports, forget. So
27:09
I got this dummy for Christmas one year and
27:11
I started learning how to do ventriloquism.
27:13
I did my first little book report in the third grade
27:15
and then I made fun of my classmates a little bit and
27:18
it was like, wow, I got some laughs. This is
27:20
fun and that's it. Yeah,
27:23
that was the drug I couldn't let go. Well, after
27:26
the break, we'll let j G flirt with Walter
27:29
and I want to hear that I wanted to scams
27:32
as well, and the homing right away, k Rod
27:34
for sure to come on like he always does a drive show off
27:36
the rails. It's a job fair. We'll be right back, job
27:46
fair, Jeff dunh. I'm standing by for scam
27:49
of a week. But before we do all of that,
27:51
it's time to slow it down. And this
27:55
is the part of the show that that
27:57
I love. And surprisingly, the Legal Apartment
28:02
doesn't really seem to have a problem with fans.
28:06
Very shocked, but nonetheless
28:09
it is a central part of the program. If
28:11
you're new to the show, we called this segment breaking
28:13
the Ice, where we give you the job, fair listener,
28:17
a couple of topics to bring up at the job.
28:19
But motherfucker's you king stand and you're tired
28:21
of talking to They've told you every little mundane
28:24
detail about their life, and it's
28:27
about that time of year where they're showing you pictures
28:29
of their dog and stupid holiday sweaters.
28:33
See that ship. I do give
28:36
you a couple of topics to characters,
28:39
help them to get him the funk up off you to help us do
28:41
that, we call in and Gentleman was an international
28:43
man of leisure. And here's
28:46
the author of the New York Times bestseller How to
28:48
Bring Your Jewish Boom to Your
28:50
Quans, Undefeated,
28:56
and Pregnancy Scares with the record of forty three
28:58
oh and two. He is the uncredited
29:01
inventor of the
29:03
Hobo fruit salad, peach whiskey, and was
29:06
it Cherry Cooke's
29:10
MoMA named Murado. We call them ride for
29:12
a short rode. I
29:14
guess we can officially say happy Holidays to
29:17
you. Is the flood gates have opened. Christmas
29:20
season and Thanksgiving season and all
29:23
of that good ship. Are you a Black Friday
29:25
shopper? Are you one of those people? You don't
29:27
strike me as a fall in line with commerce,
29:30
And I don't
29:32
like crowds, so I don't really
29:35
like being out there and all that kind of ship, but
29:38
not even online, Like you're not one of them people looking
29:40
for the next deal or do you just like nah,
29:45
here's a question Rode for the fellas,
29:48
and we could save this for relationship fairing
29:50
a couple of weeks Sidebar Royce job fair
29:52
at gmail dot com. If you've got some workplace
29:54
drama involving romance
29:56
that you want us to help sort out or that you've seen,
29:59
please reach out to the show so we can get you on
30:01
and get you on the right. Before we get
30:03
into your segment, what advice would
30:06
you have? Two men that are trying to get
30:08
women to buy them expensive gifts? How
30:10
do we go about doing that? That's
30:13
really only one way to do that, and
30:15
that's to not be a lame nigger. Um,
30:19
if you lame, if
30:22
your whack heads nigger, you ain't gonna get no expensive
30:24
gifts. That's just how it is. You want expensive
30:26
gifts for a woman? Uh, you
30:29
gotta be something special. If
30:31
you're not getting expensive gifts, then that should
30:33
let you know how much of a regular assnagga
30:35
you are. Also,
30:40
I would like to come down on the side of
30:42
pineapple in banana puttings.
30:49
Fine, fine,
30:52
I love I love that you've
30:55
had that
30:58
sounded like a freestyle. This is something that really
31:00
happens to banana putting. Yeah, I've never ever
31:02
heard. I've never heard of banana pudding being freestyled
31:05
like girl in banana.
31:07
I've heard of strawberries in
31:10
banana. It's getting but
31:12
it's like dressing, like cheesecake, like on top, not
31:14
like it
31:22
sounds right because it's super good. This
31:24
lady at my dad's job did it
31:26
the first time, a white
31:29
lady name Susan. I remember
31:31
her, and I was like, why Susan,
31:33
why was
31:35
up? And then my cousin went in.
31:38
Did that because I got turned
31:40
onto the new ship. That doesn't seem right. But it also
31:42
goes against Jacqueline's rule, right, But she
31:44
said, if you'reen making it the same way, but last
31:47
year, you gotta make it the same way every year. You
31:49
can't come and throw some new ship in the mixture
31:51
because you watched you know what I'm saying, Kelly Clarkson,
31:53
do it. Yeah, you gotta bring it to the table. You know what
31:55
I'm saying. She ain't about that life. It's kind of
31:57
like when you have ham in the car, whole
32:02
slices of pineapple in there. It's
32:04
like menistry. It's like it's almost blended
32:07
in. It's just the most just a little gets
32:09
a little like everybody has
32:12
like like two strands, like
32:14
a hair strand or sucking found up and
32:16
that's good. Now it's nuts. I'm
32:20
not talking to you. We bring right
32:22
on this program, begin topics to break the ice
32:24
ride. Turn it over to you, good
32:27
sir, Black people. This holiday
32:29
season, we've got something
32:31
great going on. We might want to get
32:33
Draymond Grid and Jordan Pool to check
32:36
this out. Uh. In nineteen seven,
32:39
Mike Tyson was in a
32:41
boxing match with the Vander holy Field
32:44
and he bit his ear twice.
32:47
The Tyson been a part of holy Field's
32:49
here off and UH it was disqualified.
32:52
It's pretty much effectively at the end of Mike Tyson's
32:55
boxing career. But five
32:57
years later, Mike Tyson,
33:00
who was a big time cannabis
33:02
user and he has his own company, he
33:05
ain't invod the holy Field a partnering
33:07
to release Holy Ears. We've
33:10
got me shaped like Ears is
33:13
brilliant. These
33:16
brothers have come back to the table and
33:18
they've become good friends, and
33:21
now they could both laugh at it all these years
33:24
later. If you remember that fight, check
33:26
it out on YouTube. Was something only laughing
33:28
when this ship happened twenty five years ago. He
33:31
was not laughing at all when it happened. That
33:34
was as far as sports beasts,
33:36
God, that was one of the more serious
33:39
ones. It was one of the craziest things I ever seen in sports,
33:42
like those two coming together. Oh my
33:44
god, I'm looking at the picture. Thank you, Rhonda. Wait,
33:47
right, you didn't say that the gummy was shaped like Holy
33:49
Fields. You
33:54
just said ear shaped. I thought just an ear,
33:56
but no, there's a distinct like the mold
33:59
to make this gun. Yeah here,
34:02
Oh yeah, it was brilliant
34:04
and right and my wrong brother? Or
34:07
did it? Did Tyson say something like if
34:09
he would have been on cannabis, he wouldn't have been
34:11
off the ear, And he said something if
34:13
he was on cannabis, he wouldn't have been off like
34:15
he said several times. If he was doing much
34:18
rooms and things like that. Back then, like he
34:20
is now net com.
34:22
That was a marketing talking point. Okay,
34:25
yeah, whatever, No, he's
34:29
head in a while. Yeah yeah. He talks about
34:31
therapy and meditation, and you know, Tyson
34:33
is a very cerebral Later he's
34:36
been smoking weed, going to therapy, doing much
34:38
rooms and ship. The dude has got himself together.
34:41
Man, it's a beautiful He beat Jacqueline.
34:43
Mike Tyson be crying on camera at least three
34:46
times a year, and some interview he cried. I
34:49
loved his podcast because he cries
34:52
hot boxing, and it's always
34:54
after like saying, some of the weirdest
34:57
ship on the face of the planet. You
35:00
go off on a deep hand, just
35:02
be wild, like talking
35:04
about fruit or something that, like, yeah I like peaches,
35:07
Yeah I don't really like peaches. I like plums. And
35:09
then Mike Typsons are just busted, like what
35:12
if what if peaches and plums
35:14
taste so sour to you sometimes because
35:17
we're all unworthy of the love of God.
35:20
And then you'll just start you
35:25
will just take a left turn. And it's
35:28
his podcast. You ain't gonna tell him up
35:32
up anyway. It's Mike Tyson. Want
35:34
to say stone or sober? Say what you want
35:36
to say, Mike, all right, let's flip it
35:38
up for the on the other side,
35:40
for white people. This is another call back to stuff
35:42
that we talked about before. Several
35:45
times. We keep trying to get Roy these
35:47
different jobs hosted shows, and
35:50
I really wish they would have let you host
35:52
Jeopardy because maybe this wouldn't have happened. Recently,
35:57
on an episode of Celebrity
35:59
did Efferty there
36:02
was a clue given and it was
36:04
one of those classics. I don't know how this made
36:06
it through, you know, all the avenues
36:09
they had to go through, but everybody involved should
36:11
be fired. The
36:13
answer to this clue
36:16
was what are alligators? The
36:19
question was what in one
36:22
hugely if Brian Laundry ended
36:24
his days in Florida's Maya
36:26
Catchy Creek area home to
36:29
these long and toothie critters,
36:31
what how that Brian
36:34
Laundry who is infamous
36:37
for committing suicide in that creek
36:39
after him and his girlfriend gave
36:42
me petito with on the Inquest trip
36:44
in the summer twitter twenty one, and
36:46
he murdered that girl and Jeff
36:49
This was the man's a clue to
36:51
get a motherfucker to say alligators? You
36:54
know, what I felt about Jeopardy for a long time is
36:56
that the questions have caught up to
36:58
present day. I remember up watching Jeopardy
37:01
and every answer was from the eighteen fifties
37:03
or earlier. Yeah, yeah,
37:06
I watched Jeofardy. Now I'd be like, should I might
37:09
go win this bit? I didn't get question
37:13
watching that. What do you mean why are
37:15
we watching? We're not watching
37:18
Jeopardy because they didn't have LeVar
37:20
Burden that they didn't hire Roy
37:22
Wood Jr. I'm not They told
37:24
you in the email they wasn't hiring no comedian.
37:27
They said as a genre. That's
37:32
what they told my agent. They said comedians
37:34
would drive the show away from I
37:36
don't remember I've read it. So
37:39
they said comedians will drive the show away
37:41
from the intellectual side. And then
37:43
they let Blossom go and this motherfu thank
37:46
you killer who commit No,
37:50
no, no, there's Jeffardy time TMZ
37:53
brother for the questions. You know what I'm saying, We're not
37:55
gonna put that on me. By leak,
38:00
she rather she ain't. She
38:02
ain't looking at them questions before she go out
38:04
there anymore. To Steve Harvey, know what happened?
38:07
Intellectual She is definitely looking at how
38:10
that made it through y'all crazy.
38:12
Yeah, the channels, the
38:15
chain of command, but they should have been shut
38:17
that out immediately. This
38:22
one that is insane. I
38:24
know that Jeopardy has to remain fresh
38:27
and young, and I think that quiz shows
38:29
are only as good as the viewer
38:31
thinks that they could win. That's why
38:34
Willtle Fortune is still on the air. Because you sit at home
38:36
and I'm smarter than their mother. I should
38:38
be on the show. So you need that element
38:41
of I know, what the hell? But I
38:43
think in some regards maybe
38:45
Jeopardy is skewed a little too current.
38:48
But adding crime to the mixture, I
38:50
don't think that's it. That both Gabo
38:53
and Brian Lodger's family said this ship was
38:55
outrageous, I don't
38:57
understand that's work so
39:00
many ways to get haligators. What the hell were
39:02
they thinking? New England
39:04
patriots Tighty and Aaron Hernandez
39:08
murdered Odin Lloyd in this hamlet
39:11
just outside the capital of Rhode
39:13
Island. What
39:17
it is? Providence? It's
39:21
insane and so ends
39:23
like they could have just said, what the fun is
39:25
the capital of Rhode Island? Everybody
39:30
in their head to be on cocaine for that question.
39:32
To make it to the name show it,
39:37
MoMA named Rodo. We called him Rod
39:39
for short. The podcast is Uncle Rod's
39:41
Story Corner. Rod. We bat
39:43
you a happy holidays and we will leave you
39:46
to your banana pudding with blueberries
39:48
inside of kind. But
39:51
I'm telling you check it out before you dis
39:53
is, and I promise you you're gonna go. That's the only
39:55
way you're either from that. Stop
39:58
moving people in a bad direct in
40:00
their lives. You
40:03
said again, I'm gonna say exactly what I'm thinking right
40:05
now. Thank
40:10
you. As always, Rod, I think uh
40:13
scam of a week time. We welcome Jeff
40:15
Dunham back to the program. Jeff, do you
40:17
like pineapples and your banapples? Oh
40:20
my gosh, what, Jeff,
40:22
have you heard of this? You're from Texas? Yeah?
40:26
What about it? Pineapples? And apparently
40:29
at Jacquelin's Thanksgiving get together, she
40:31
has family members who hate her and they put pineapples
40:36
and what bananas
40:39
with pineapples in
40:41
a sound? Jeff,
40:43
let it go in pudding
40:47
in putting pineapples,
40:50
okay, bananas, okay, pineapples
40:54
in putting. That's not right.
40:56
Thank you. We
40:59
welcome back on the program. Jeff
41:01
Dunham. His comedy
41:03
special premiers November twenty
41:06
five. Jeff Dunham me the people
41:08
on Comedy Central after that, or to be on the Paramount
41:10
Plus app also with Jeff Now the
41:13
homie Walter. I'm sorry I had to
41:15
come back to this story about the the
41:18
screw to the comedy club. J
41:20
G. Do you have any questions for Walter real quick?
41:22
Before we get into this, I knew,
41:25
I'm just curious, Walter, could
41:27
Jeff really build me out like
41:30
a shelf, because he's obviously
41:32
good at building things. Could
41:35
you build a shelf? Yeah? Yeah, that The weird part is
41:37
it would talk. Okay,
41:42
So let me tell you this story real quick. Yeah, yeah,
41:45
okay. So there's a comedy club that the show Go Nameless.
41:48
But it was in Boston, and uh, it
41:50
was on top of Faniel Hall.
41:53
You know what I'm talking about, the food hall.
41:55
Yeah, down to yeah, Vannel Hall.
41:57
And this place seated um
42:00
easily five people. And I know
42:03
that because we were selling out
42:05
and every night, and I went
42:07
to the owner and I said, so, how many were getting here
42:09
in here every night? And he goes, we have three fifty
42:12
you're selling out. I'm like, okay,
42:14
there's there's more than five three fifty
42:16
seats in here. I think there's about five hundred
42:18
seats and he goes, oh, no, no, he goes,
42:21
well, no, there's not that many. I said, okay. Then
42:23
the next day I went back and I went I counted
42:25
the seats. There's five hundred seats in here, and he goes,
42:28
you did. I go, yeah, it's five almost exactly
42:30
sat. And he goes, well, we don't. You know, you can't
42:33
put you know, you got a three people come in and you
42:35
got a four top. There's no way we we
42:37
sell all those seats. I'm like, I
42:39
don't see an empty seat in the house. You're ripping
42:41
me off. He goes, no, there's no way. And this is like the
42:44
fifth time I've been there. So
42:46
I'm on stage on Saturday
42:49
night, you know, first show, completely
42:51
sold out, and I get through my you
42:53
know, supposed to do an hour. I get through fifty five minutes.
42:55
I said, folks, we've had a great time or not? And yeah,
42:57
I want you to do me a favor. We have a little
43:00
discrepancy of how many people are here tonight. I want
43:02
you to be honest about this. We're gonna count off
43:04
one at a time. Only
43:06
say one number. Only say one
43:09
number, one at a time. I'm just curious
43:11
of how many of you are in here. Will you
43:13
help me out? So
43:15
that room number one
43:17
at a time. The owner in the back of
43:20
the club, I think at he's a good friend
43:22
of mine. He goes, what is he doing? He goes, and and Gary
43:24
goes, he's counting off the room. So
43:28
we got to four hundred and ninety
43:31
eight. Oh yeah.
43:33
And so he's like, you can't tell anybody this because then
43:35
all the other communities are gonna know. I'm like, you
43:37
know, and so he wanted to pay me. I
43:39
don't know, but I was honest. I had to go back and
43:42
tell my agents, and yeah, he
43:44
hated me for many years after that. Club
43:46
owners will do slitch it two. They'll say
43:48
it sold out, then they'll bring in club. I'll say
43:51
this openly. It's a club in San Diego where once
43:53
you get on stage, they bring empty chairs
43:55
and from the bar to put in the room to make it look
43:57
like you didn't sell out. Oh. I used
44:00
it got to where I was taken. When digital
44:02
cameras came out, I would go into the top
44:04
of the balcony and take pictures of the room
44:07
and then start counting off like on a piece
44:09
of paper, and I would get in screaming arguments.
44:12
Oh on Sundays it was just hopefully
44:14
this nice guy I was not nice when up
44:18
right and left. I'll tell you one but one club did.
44:20
They said, okay, okay, okay, okay, look
44:23
here's the computer print out. I go, which a lie? He
44:25
goes, They the computer can't lying. I go, you're
44:27
lying. He goes, okay, okay, we
44:29
have two sets of numbers. And
44:32
then they would pay me the one check for
44:34
what was on the computer and then give me cash
44:37
for what was off the books, cooking
44:41
the books, running game. I
44:43
know you have to go, brother Dunham. I have a final
44:46
question for you with regards
44:48
to the respect for your craft
44:51
within the scope of performance and stand
44:53
up comedy. You are to
44:56
me like, there's there's this thing where ventriloquism
44:58
is always treated as this annex of
45:01
stand up for a while, kind of like
45:03
the way they try to do piano acts or
45:06
i'd say Penn and Teller. Early
45:09
early on, we're like, oh, you're in the magician
45:11
wing or you're over there. But I feel
45:14
like you transcended that into this
45:16
bigger, just straight up comedian. When people talk
45:18
about stand up comedy, your name is associated
45:21
with stand up comedy, not vitriloquism. How
45:23
much disrespect that you deal with early
45:26
on? And did that ever change
45:28
and do you think that has changed for
45:31
young ventriloquist I've met a couple on
45:33
the road when I'm at doing stuff
45:35
with the Daily Show, I meet young kids and
45:37
you know, they bring you up. They bring up Willie Tyler
45:39
and Lester who have we mentioned on this show before. Like,
45:44
what was the respect like early on for you?
45:48
What what is it now for them? Do they say that they
45:50
don't get disrespector is it still
45:52
there? It seems like the younger womens
45:55
have a harder time getting stage time because the clubs
45:57
don't respect them. They look at it as a stick
46:00
but instead of looking at it. I think that
46:02
Ventrolak was much like magicians and people
46:04
who do hybrid forms with stand up, they have to
46:06
find their own spaces to create and grow
46:08
and then migrate back there
46:11
was it was. It was really tough.
46:13
I mean, even when I was the
46:15
headlining act, you know, I'd find epitaphs
46:18
written on the wall, like I got Stand
46:20
Up Comedy the Year in ninety seven, and man
46:22
did people hate that. But there were club owners.
46:25
That was club owners voting on the comics, and
46:27
whoever was selling tickets is who they nominate.
46:30
But no, yeah, it was it was tough,
46:32
especially moved out to Los Angeles and and
46:35
uh, you know, I'd be up on stage and you
46:37
know, I was always the middle act and and forget
46:40
about Melrose man, that's a tough house
46:42
for somebody like me to play. Um
46:45
uh the improv. But uh,
46:47
yeah, it was tough. And and I
46:50
still have letters, rejection letters from comedy.
46:53
Now you won't be our headliner. We can make them our middle act
46:55
and pay them, you know, two and fifty bucks for the week. Okay,
46:59
So it was a while it and it took a long time.
47:01
And I appreciate very much what you said, roy I. I
47:04
don't take any of this for granted at all. Um.
47:07
Uh, just some great audiences and some good
47:10
people along the way that have been at the right place
47:12
at the right time and help me out. So um,
47:15
you know, uh, it was tough.
47:17
And now it's it's it's more fun, but it
47:19
is. I think it's a little bit more difficult now
47:21
because you come out with one album and
47:24
you got to come out with your next album and it better
47:26
be as good as your last one. Uh,
47:29
you know, with all those specials, that's a boatload
47:31
of material and uh it's uh, you
47:34
know, it's good and it's good and bad, but it's
47:36
great. Of all the people that travel
47:38
with you, how much do they weigh collectively?
47:41
And how much does Walter weigh? For
47:45
Walter a
47:47
grandmother who's single. Thank you, that's
47:50
great. I have no idea what
47:52
their weight is. You know, I have no idea. You
47:59
bad, Yeah, you
48:03
know. I don't like commercial.
48:06
Excuse me, excuse
48:11
me, excuse me. There's
48:14
a there's a good reason for that. There's no way
48:16
that we could do the schedule that we do and
48:18
the dates that we play if if I flew
48:20
commercial, because all the dummies and all the crap.
48:22
I mean, I have trunks and everything,
48:25
but our production is pretty vague. I mean, we have we
48:27
have to eighteen wheelers. We have two tour bucks
48:30
for the crew, and it's a rock and roll show,
48:32
so we carry all our own lights and sound
48:35
and video and audio and all that stuff.
48:37
So but you know what I
48:39
want to call this the New Inflation Tour because we've
48:42
kept my tickets down in price so everybody
48:44
can enjoy it. I don't understand the Taylor Swift thing.
48:46
She's worth and worth what a half a billion dollars?
48:48
Why charging eight hundred and fifty bucks a ticket?
48:50
You can't have my sings you.
48:54
So we've kept my tickets at fifties, sixties, sixty
48:56
five bucks, seventy bucks, and a lot of other comics
48:59
are within play and raising them up and raising them up.
49:01
But I'm just I just believe in the McDonald's
49:03
approach. You keep it inexpensive and you'll get more
49:06
people, and you'll make it up in volume. This
49:09
is the eleventh special, premier November
49:11
twenty five, and meet the people. We look forward to Special
49:14
twelve, thirteen, fifteen through
49:16
eighteen and Special number
49:18
twenty five. Thank you, sir. I'm
49:20
going to Hell. I'm good to Carlin's
49:22
collection very soon to see what I see.
49:24
How many numbers I gotta go to. I know it's more
49:27
than eleven, but I think it's
49:29
more than thirteen or fourteen. I think
49:32
I'm pretty sure you're
49:36
in carlin territory, brother, and I love
49:38
you, and I appreciate everything
49:40
you've been doing. Thank you very much, Jeff Donald
49:42
for thank you. Guys'
49:45
learning learning
49:48
about to ask him, does Walter to have some meat?
49:50
Do you make way invited to Thanksgiving?
49:53
Danil walt to I'm just saying, I
49:56
just want to hear some white jokes at some point, please,
49:59
oh man. Yeah, we refuse
50:01
to some episodes that you can listen to it. We definitely have some
50:03
white people jokes. That'd be great. I
50:05
would love that. You
50:08
know, we do our white people allergies. We all did you do
50:10
on the ride? No, we don't have time.
50:16
Three, thank you. Right
50:20
after the break, we are going to talk
50:23
with a wonderful, wonderful brother. You
50:25
know those jokes. But let's get into a little
50:27
bit of danger. A guy who you
50:30
see all the reporters that be out there
50:32
in the war torn areas getting shot at. He's
50:35
the liaison who gets him there. We're gonna
50:38
let Brian after the break. It's the job Fair.
50:40
We'll be right back. Job
50:48
Fair round and third hit it
50:50
for Home. You know, by the government
50:52
isn't seen as a sexy job. It's because like
50:55
you haven't met somebody work for the government, Like they're just so
50:58
chill like nobody's yeah.
51:01
But the people who have good government jobs,
51:03
they don't say ship because they don't want you to know
51:05
about them, because they're trying to keep all the good
51:07
jobs to themselves. It's an interesting
51:09
job because you know, as you
51:12
said earlier, j G, once you work for the
51:14
government, it's very hard to get fun. Absolutely,
51:17
you got to really be fucking
51:19
up, Like you gotta store a lot of cocaine on
51:22
your desk in the office. You
51:24
could be sleep at your desk. Sleep.
51:27
As long as you get worked on, they're not gonna firing.
51:30
Uh. So, let's go on down the Mississippi
51:33
and meet somebody down there in Mississippi.
51:36
I think it's only second person we've had from Mississippi
51:38
on the show. Well, dead
51:40
Buddy Sue. Yeah, dead
51:43
Boddy Sue through Mississippi. So
51:46
who do we have on the line? J G. We welcome
51:49
Silhol Servant Brian
51:52
to the show. Brian is based
51:54
in Long Beach, Mississippi, and
51:56
works as a public affairs officer
51:59
for the Department of Defense. Today,
52:01
he's going to talk to you Roy about
52:04
what it's like to be a communications
52:06
liaison between the government
52:09
and the general public, including his
52:11
experience dealing with the media
52:13
in Afghanistan and Iraq.
52:16
Hello, Brian, Hello, Hello,
52:19
Hey, I'm glad to be calling into
52:21
you from Mississippi. But I really
52:24
hate the fact that the only other person from Mississippi
52:27
that you've ever talked to was what a dead body? Sue?
52:29
Is that wonderful?
52:33
It's a scary name represented
52:36
Mississippi pretty well. She didn't
52:38
name herself that we called she.
52:41
She works around dead bodies and her name is Sue. So
52:43
we just combined the ship. Okay, still
52:45
a little scary. But before
52:50
we do anything else, man, tell us about your work.
52:53
Tell us about your job, podcast work.
52:55
So I understand you started
52:57
a podcast. Yeah, so, I mean it's a little
53:00
little personal side project that I do after
53:02
hours. Um, kind of have to say that so
53:04
the government doesn't say, hey, what's he doing on that? You really
53:06
do work for the government. Delig the
53:10
government, folks, I'm used to right there, right, Yeah,
53:12
I gotta gotta give my disclaimer in there.
53:15
Yeah, it's called it's called work Sucks. You can
53:17
find it on all of the major
53:19
podcast platforms um that are
53:21
out there and basically just interview somebody
53:24
every so often. Um, you know, whether it's
53:26
a bad boss, bad co workers, dealing
53:28
with Karen's, dealing with workplace
53:30
safety violations, all that kind of stuff. Correct
53:32
me if I'm wrong on this. Public affairs officer,
53:35
your job is to make sure that ship is
53:37
suite between the government and the public
53:39
and disseminating the message from the government
53:41
to the people in a way that's palpable and understandable
53:44
and easy to communicate only with the public
53:46
but also with other media outlets. Yeah,
53:49
that's that's a pretty good way to say that. So my
53:51
job on a daily basis is
53:54
I guess it's more like three to four parts,
53:56
is uh, the media relations and outreach
53:58
side. So um, there
54:01
are a lot of public affairs officers that
54:03
are that. You can either be proactive or reactive.
54:06
I happen to be a proactive one. I like to reach out
54:08
to our media outlets and and just
54:11
I don't just let them know what's going on, be transparent,
54:13
let them know that we're being good stewards of taxpayers
54:15
dollars, that we're not hiding things from
54:17
them. I just try to try to get the media on the base
54:19
as much as possible. Actually, I work at the Naval
54:22
Construction Battalion Center in Gulfport right now, Gulfport,
54:24
Mississippi. So it's a it's a pretty good
54:26
environment. But but the second part of my
54:28
job, besides the media relations, the second part of my
54:30
job is more like a community relations. We do
54:33
tours, We do speaking engagements from
54:35
anything from like civic organizations to like
54:37
schools, will go out to classrooms,
54:39
all that kind of stuff. So then it's not only
54:42
about delivering a message
54:45
for that that the Navy wants delivered
54:47
to the public, but also you know, piping
54:49
down any confusion that may have that
54:52
may have come from you know, misinformation.
54:55
What is it like doing
54:58
this job from a war zone or
55:00
from an area where that because you know isis
55:03
is always round the corner, right, Yeah. I
55:05
did a U. S O tour ine and
55:07
we literally third we could see the fire. This is
55:10
six months before they took Magnet read
55:12
an Apache helicopter base doing jokes and
55:14
you could see the smoking
55:16
ship coming up after like, dude, motherfucker's
55:19
is on the way. So when
55:21
you're working over that, when I
55:23
think about the jokes, I told those jokes weren't
55:25
even worth getting shot at four These
55:29
jokes I got no these jokes is worth. I
55:36
apologize to that Apache Helicopter
55:39
Italian. You know what, though, you
55:41
know what, Roy, I've been on
55:43
the receiving end of having a comedian come out
55:45
when I was in like the middle of just
55:48
the worst possible situation I
55:50
could think of. And then we have like a singer
55:52
or a comedian. I don't care if that singer couldn't
55:55
hold a tune in a bucket, I
55:57
still appreciated so much because
55:59
for for that five minutes they sang that song, I
56:02
got to think about something else besides
56:04
what was outside my gate. I had to escort
56:07
Meta out in the battlefield several times, and it
56:09
got harry a few times, and uh yeah,
56:12
but but you know the worst one
56:14
was Jamee's defense weekly. This this little tiny,
56:16
little wispy kind of British
56:18
lady, uh you know, not even a hundred
56:21
pounds, so can whip. And we got into a
56:23
big firefight and she
56:25
got down in the floorboard of our humby and and
56:27
just just screamed and cried the
56:30
whole time. And we I kept her safe and
56:32
we got out of there. Now we didn't. We lost some people,
56:34
but we we we got her out of there. My job was
56:36
to get the media out of there, and I got I got her out of
56:38
there safe, and I'm pretty
56:41
sure she she went home within
56:43
a week and quit being
56:45
a journalist. Side that didn't want to be a core foreign
56:47
correspondent anymore because it was so traumatic for
56:49
her. But she but she got an amazing
56:52
story out of it. She still told the story. She's
56:54
got an amazing story and said, no, my family
56:56
is too important. I can't risk it anymore. There's
56:59
a lot of corresponding that are losing their lives right
57:01
now, especially when we talk about what's happening
57:03
with Russian and Ukraine. Yeah, that's definitely foreign
57:06
journalists covering active conflict. It's
57:08
another level of balls. It's a it's
57:10
a rough life. There was. There was many times
57:13
where we had journalists I got, if
57:15
not killed, injured severely where
57:17
they're going back without all their limbs. Yeah no,
57:20
yeah, no. I was at a certain point
57:22
at a in an earlier career at a radio place
57:24
I mentioned where they basically
57:27
were like, Uh, if you want to move
57:29
ahead in your career, we're gonna have to embed you for a desert
57:31
storm. And I was like, yeah, no,
57:35
it's not you know, like they don't play about
57:37
when you do certain levels of of of journalism,
57:41
they have to embed you, they have to put you in,
57:43
um, but they tell you off the top, we
57:45
can't guarantee you're gonna come back. I'm
57:48
reporting a story, sir, I'm not dying from a country.
57:50
I can't do it. That's a lot, you know what I'm saying.
57:52
That's a heavy job. Man Sebastian Younger
57:55
was you know the author. Um he's
57:58
written several big, big books, perfect
58:00
Storm is one of them. But he's also a journalist
58:03
and a very talented journalist and writer
58:05
and everything. And he went out there with one
58:07
of his photographers and um
58:11
uh, the photographer kind of wandered
58:13
off to get a shot into a active
58:15
mindfield and stepped on the mind. And
58:17
it's it's that kind of thing. It's not always hostile
58:20
fire, it's just sometimes things happen. In
58:22
Iraq. We had a guy that was out
58:25
covering a story. Wasn't
58:27
even any hostiles nearby, and
58:29
he uh, the heat and having
58:31
the extra body armor and stuff on. It's just
58:34
the lifestyle. He wasn't prepared
58:36
for it. And he jumped off of a
58:38
tank and was doing like this walk up to camera
58:41
type thing and just fell over dead because of a heart
58:43
attack. And it's it's there's a
58:45
there's a lot of things
58:47
that can happen to journalists, and so it's
58:49
my job when I'm escorting them
58:51
is to make sure that those things don't happen.
58:53
At least I can try to mitigate it as much as
58:55
possible, you know, Brian, I gotta tell you, my man,
58:59
but be flat out with you. But man,
59:01
I'm black, all right, And my big
59:04
fear was that I was gonna go over there and getting better and they
59:06
were gonna kidnap my black ass, And there was will be
59:08
nobody negotiating getting me the hell up out
59:10
on kidnap. They will kidnap you.
59:12
They will kidnapped the journalists. They definitely
59:14
would have gave my ass back. I ain't friend. I'm hoping
59:16
that it looked like us because
59:18
I ain't nobody coming. How much you make, Brian?
59:21
How much do I make? Now? So I'm a just
59:23
twelve and I've been a just twelve
59:25
for quite some time. I'm a step five. So with the locality
59:28
pay and all that stuff in this area, I'm right,
59:31
I guess I average about don't
59:34
money out there and
59:38
if the salary starting is Jack,
59:41
what's so rude? Shelly
59:43
looked him. You saw that right now. If they
59:46
looked him like, Hey, I'm a government employee. It's
59:48
it's public record. So I average about
59:50
ninety grand. But Brian, I'm
59:53
leaving. I'm leaving Mississippi pretty
59:55
soon, uh to go in about
59:57
two weeks. I'm leaving Mississippi to go to Okinawa, Japan.
1:00:00
Oh. I found out that, Uh,
1:00:02
it's very lucrative to to be a
1:00:05
government simlion overseas because they pay your
1:00:07
rent and your your utilities
1:00:10
and then pay your salary. On top of that, Man,
1:00:13
you can turn Uncle Sam into a sugar daddy. I
1:00:15
like this. Bryan. Thank you
1:00:18
so much for everything that you're doing, and
1:00:20
thank you for delivering the messages to the
1:00:22
media to get the word out on what's going on in
1:00:24
that world. Thank you. The podcast is
1:00:26
Work Sucks. You can download
1:00:28
it wherever you download this fine podcast. Thank
1:00:31
you so much for Brian for coming. Thanks, thanks,
1:00:33
thanks for having me on. That's
1:00:35
the show. Royce John Fair is a product
1:00:37
of I Heart Media, Paramount in South
1:00:40
Park and Princeton Productions. Jack
1:00:42
Whenough said this before you are a woman of
1:00:44
layers. What do
1:00:46
you mean I
1:00:49
didn't need to know that you wanted to have sex with a puppet
1:00:52
whatever? Since
1:00:55
winning whatever,
1:00:58
you all wouldn't talk to Walter, and that was
1:01:01
rude. Somewhere of his age expects
1:01:03
to be talked to you as well. Listen,
1:01:06
now we're not fitting coat.
1:01:09
Was freaking me out. I'm gonna talk to him, not the whole man,
1:01:13
the whole as Jeff done on the show. Jeff
1:01:17
done him, so it's interesting. Sounds
1:01:20
like Jeff Donham need to make you a second Walter. Let
1:01:22
me would do a Wooden's
1:01:24
sex Doll episode. I'm
1:01:28
not gonna I'm thinking I
1:01:32
got terrible out of my head. Oh so
1:01:34
many splinters in that place exactly.
1:01:36
I think that's a good place to stop. No
1:01:39
clue what to say. This
1:01:42
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