0:01

You're listening to Comedy Central. I

0:06

feel that's how it was the first time I hit Moon Rocks.

0:08

I was done for the day for

0:12

Roy's dude to come to the sun Rocks on that

0:15

dude, that dude have me Hella, hype

0:18

fucking save all this for your drug podcast

0:21

now high come

0:25

in. In the middle of drug talk, an entire

0:27

Alabama town is scrambling

0:30

to figure out their next steps in law

0:32

enforcement after the

0:34

entire police department was disbanded

0:37

after that was discovered that one of the officers

0:39

have been sent in a racist joke to other

0:41

officers in the department. Wow.

0:44

Vincent, Alabama,

0:48

Vince, Alabama, about forty five minutes outside

0:51

of Birmingham, a little small town two

0:53

thousand residents, white

0:56

city. Sounds right. City

0:59

managers decide did the Vincent

1:01

Mayor, James Latimer, confirmed

1:03

to NPR that the city

1:05

council voted to dissolve the entire

1:08

fuck who sent the joke. Turning

1:11

your back, I like it. It's like when your mama

1:13

will every bad. Now,

1:17

I'm not going to repeat

1:21

the joke, but

1:23

I will say, as far as racist jokes go, top

1:26

tier, the

1:30

top tier no,

1:37

because you're gonna enjoy it, and I don't

1:41

you just saying you enjoyed

1:44

it. You just saying to best

1:46

fucking racist jokes, you

1:49

cannot. We do not condone racism

1:51

on this podcast while we're recording

1:53

of actually laughing at something

1:55

that something. My

2:15

name is Roy, this

2:17

is my job. Fair. Wednesday

2:20

is the best day of the week. It's halftime. It's

2:22

an opportunity for you to take a break and breathe

2:25

and reflect on all

2:27

the bullshit that you haven't accomplished yet

2:29

this week. And you're probably not gonna get around to

2:31

it. But that's why they have Thursday. Thursdays

2:33

the day where you lie to yourself and so you still

2:36

have time. But the truth is, if you hadn't

2:38

started it by Tuesday, you're probably not gonna

2:41

get it done. You're lazy, procrastinating piece

2:43

of ship. How

2:48

do you do, Jacqueline, you are the white blood

2:50

sail to keep the show pure. Thank

2:54

you. I'm

2:57

gonna talk to a couple of people today. I got

2:59

a black woman in heck, let's

3:01

speak with a wonderful, wonderful hip

3:03

hop producer, the Homie Roster

3:06

Boot. That's gonna be a good conversation as

3:08

well. But since we've got two smokers on the program.

3:10

I wanted to uh bring this story

3:12

to you all's attention, and I want you to decide

3:15

whether or not this is fair foul ride.

3:17

A Japanese company has decided

3:19

to give non smoking employees

3:22

six extra off days

3:25

every year. Fair foul.

3:27

I think it's foul. I

3:29

think it's very foul. I don't. I don't support

3:32

smoker's discrimination. It's

3:35

not. It's giving the non

3:37

smokers and opportunity to also

3:39

take that fifteen minute break. It's

3:41

just combined. Jacqueline brings up

3:43

an excellent point. Ride and also why

3:46

I do believe right that they

3:48

should get these days because as a

3:50

smoker in the office, those motherfucker's get

3:53

on your nerve dogs. So like if they get six extra

3:55

days funk off, that works for me, go

3:57

and complain about us at home. My thing is

4:00

why why is it only smokers? Like what

4:02

about cocaine and shrooms and weed

4:04

and all the other What

4:06

about the people who ain't getting no sex and what

4:09

about the losing that nobody won't

4:11

they go get them some days off

4:13

to go find them a masturbation

4:16

break would be I don't know

4:18

how you I don't know how you navigate the

4:20

hr of it. But I think that would be

4:23

nice for some It would keep it would cut

4:25

down sexual harassment if you could go that's

4:27

actually a company that does that. There's

4:30

a company job

4:32

right now, this jack

4:34

off break company. Somebody's

4:37

giving out masturbation break. They gotta they gotta

4:39

masturbation in the office

4:42

down South Georgia. Girl job

4:46

boss of an adult entertainment company offers

4:48

employees half an hour daily masturbation

4:51

breaks after finding they become

4:53

agitated during lockdown.

4:56

Erica Lust Who Won't who owns Erica

4:58

Lust Films has even that up at a private

5:01

masturbation station in the

5:03

office. She is

5:06

hoping to normalize masturbation

5:09

by allowing her staff a thirty

5:11

minute break every day for

5:13

self love. That's dope. It takes

5:15

me like three minutes to crank one out. That's what

5:17

the minutes to do nothing, bro

5:20

right, you can get a smoke break in smoke,

5:24

you know, maybe watch a fifteen

5:26

minutes sitcom or something. I'm

5:28

okay what these Japanese folks doing. Man,

5:30

if you get a kick it and do nothing, God damn, and

5:32

I get to kick it and do nothing, or just give me

5:35

a fifteen minute break. Are you

5:37

telling me that people don't take fifteen minute it

5:39

breaks anyway? You ain't never never had a job

5:41

with a non smoker, just takes a break because

5:43

no, I can't deal with this ship. Of course, we

5:46

all take the long way back to our desk.

5:48

We all sit in the car for an extra

5:51

five Mississippi like. There's a bunch of

5:53

different ways to cut corners. At

5:55

worst, there you go take

5:57

a ship, and then after you ship you just

5:59

sit the designated stall using

6:02

the bathroom and drink coffee

6:05

Jacqueline. Some companies

6:07

have changed the toilet to sit at an angle,

6:10

so it hurts to be on the toilet longer

6:12

than five minutes because the people like to take real

6:16

quick before we get into the CMO right is

6:18

telling the truth. Thank you. Down South Georgia. How

6:21

evil are corporations? A

6:23

British startup called Standard Toilet

6:25

has designed the toilet with a slant it seat

6:27

to make it less comfortable for worker stuff

6:30

they got in the bathroom. The toilet

6:32

has a thirteen degree slope, which

6:34

makes it painful to sit on a

6:37

board the five minutes. What if you got to take

6:39

one of them big donkey Texas Chill like

6:42

that's a fifteen minute ship. You gotta

6:45

take a lap around the bath the person come

6:47

back, going

6:49

on and just push through it. Bro, It's

6:55

time for Cody's must have standing employe of the week. The

6:58

CEO of comp Any hyper

7:00

Socialists facing criticism after

7:03

he posted a video crying

7:05

after laying off some of his employees.

7:08

So here's what happened. You know, the CEOs,

7:10

they get on these calls and they just tell everybody, y'all

7:13

fired. I'm sorry they got layoffs. We gotta have cutbacks.

7:15

And then the perception is that CEOs

7:18

are these methodical robots who do not care

7:20

about the employees, and they do not care about

7:22

the humanity of what they're doing and turning

7:24

people's lives upside down. So my

7:26

man here thought it would be a good idea

7:29

after doing the layoffs, to

7:32

you know, post a selfie video, he wrote

7:34

on LinkedIn. Quote but well, let me do it

7:36

like he because he was crying days liked

7:38

the day of who I was a business

7:40

owner that was not only money

7:42

driven and didn't care about who he heard alone

7:44

the way, But I'm not so. I just want people to see

7:47

that not every CEO out there is coharted,

7:50

it doesn't care when they have to

7:52

lay people off. I'm sure

7:54

there's others like me.

7:57

Of course. The video immediately went viral,

7:59

with many was celebrating his emotional

8:01

vulnerability and other people going

8:04

shut the funk up, nobody's cares. You still

8:06

fired all the motherfucker's fuck you absolutely

8:09

shout out at him for game in the system like

8:11

that. That's exactly what he did.

8:14

I think it's okay to cry and

8:16

tell my funcker's you read glass to lay in a moment.

8:18

I'm right with this post because otherwise, how does

8:20

the perception change of business

8:23

owners? Everybody ate a rich fucking

8:25

fortune one hundred tycoon who

8:27

just lays motherfucker's off all heartless.

8:30

This man is letting y'all know yo, some of us

8:32

hurt. We I hate I got to do this, but god

8:34

damn, I gotta keep my business running the funk you

8:36

want me to do? Well? Did he also tell them

8:39

that to their faces or did he just

8:41

do it for the social height, for

8:43

the social media ship. He did that just

8:45

the same face and just to make it look

8:48

good. He don't give a fuck. Is the

8:50

only way to give a funk is to not have layoffs,

8:52

no like

8:57

saying about it. Yeah, you ain't gotta line

8:59

man like, it's business. You had

9:01

to fire some people a ride. Did

9:03

you see this partner article here where it says

9:05

both of the laid off employees,

9:08

he said, we're over the top nice about

9:10

it, both laid off. They laid

9:12

off two people people like

9:15

he cried like he had to come on, come

9:19

on, nigger

9:22

man, and

9:26

then and then hold up, saying hold

9:28

that way the way. He

9:31

told Motherboard over the phone on Wednesday

9:33

that the company had laid off two employees

9:35

on Tuesday evening, keep performing one of the layoffs

9:38

and his girlfriend slash business partner

9:40

laid off the other employees while he watched,

9:43

and your girlfriend they get fired. That thing about

9:45

the move to the Cayman Islands with the money

9:47

he's saving by letting those

9:50

two, those whole two people

9:52

go. Me and my girlfriend are gonna run

9:54

this company remote from BALI UM

9:57

so sorry that you can't make it try

9:59

some Oh, I did not have to lay two people off.

10:01

I'm sorry. I

10:04

totally believe that

10:07

when you tell one person something,

10:09

you might be seeking an opinion, But

10:12

when you tell multiple people the same

10:14

thing over and over again, it's just

10:16

a ploy. It's just I'm

10:19

sorry and lazy and a waste

10:21

of time. I keep telling me the same crap

10:23

over and over again. Do the job and move

10:26

on, or don't be the CEO for

10:29

crying no

10:34

and making sure that the world knows that

10:36

those two people you laid off stressed

10:38

you. Although honestly, if you have to lay

10:40

off two people, you probably built to run the real

10:42

fortunified hundred companies. You don't have to be fine.

10:45

Motherfucker's different brights. You gotta get you a backbone.

10:47

Mother, you got to tul up, you gotta take taekwondo.

10:50

You need some confidence. Let your girlfriend

10:52

do your hard work. Dog. It

10:55

is with a heavy heart and much

10:57

soul searching that I tell you people,

11:00

unfortunately had to let

11:03

Jesse and Marcus go save

11:06

the company.

11:09

I'm gonna go check myself into a mental

11:11

institution. Get the funk

11:14

out of here. Two niggas, come

11:16

on ye first,

11:19

CMO, I have to just I

11:21

gotta give up on that. But I'm sorry,

11:27

holy ship, where it was two niggas layoffs

11:30

too, motherfucker's

11:33

and again, like for

11:38

laying off two people and crying about

11:40

it instead of being a grown ass man

11:42

and chopping their head off like a motherfucking predator

11:46

CEO of hyper Social you

11:49

are not Cody's most outstanding

11:51

employee of the week. Wonderful. That's the first night we've

11:53

ever had. I like that. I can't believe

11:56

y'all reverse that on me. That whole

11:58

thing is white tears on the biggest elevel

12:00

possible. Just two for two

12:02

people like you cry like you shut down

12:04

three out of five factories and

12:08

was always shut the funk up worst

12:10

the first time. J

12:12

G. What do we know about draculina as

12:14

an industry. It's expensive, it's

12:17

hot, it's always hot in there. You ever going, it'd

12:20

always be some door opening the back, just

12:22

just outside. And like one of the

12:24

biggest fans you've ever seen in your life, Like

12:26

the fans are always huge,

12:31

one of the big gym fans, like at the shitty high

12:34

school gym from the nineties. It's one of

12:36

them fans. But on the tripod, it's

12:38

got all the fabric on the back because of all the stuff

12:40

flying in the air that you ain't know what's flying in

12:42

the air, Like it's just when

12:44

winter is over. I take my comforter

12:47

and because I want to get it cleaned or whatever, and

12:49

they always make it larger

12:52

and I can't stuff it in the trunk because

12:55

they fluffed it out or something. They

12:57

did their job. What did the good

13:01

cleaners doing your job? You can't

13:03

transport take this ship home? I hate that

13:05

you're so good at this. Every time I've gone

13:07

in the dry cleaners, everybody just

13:09

seems sticky. It just it's never

13:11

seemed like a job, just like

13:14

just a little bit of sweat, like not a full sweat

13:17

pit under their arm, but just

13:19

sticky. They're just a little bit of sweat bubbles

13:21

on the nick and ship like this. This seemed

13:24

like it ain't their conditioned. The ain't no TV in

13:26

the either. That's the other thing about the dry cleaner.

13:28

What the fund is the TV? George

13:30

Jefferson looks sticky? What are

13:33

you talking about? He was the owner. He didn't

13:35

go in there, Washington, The Jefferson's was

13:37

on like forty Rhonda fined. How

13:39

many seasons of The Jeffersons was that?

13:41

How many episodes took place

13:44

at that dry cleaners?

13:46

Like when they did a flashback one time they

13:48

showed his first dollar. I'm a huge

13:51

George Jefferson fan. Soe

13:53

come with Jefferson's story? Really

13:57

really, am Like, I can tell you everything about

13:59

every show. It's

14:01

real bad j G. Who

14:04

do we have on the line? We have Amanda

14:07

who's joining us. Amanda is based

14:09

in Chicago and works as a senior

14:11

creative within the Integrated

14:13

Advertising space. She strives

14:16

to create inclusive, authentic,

14:18

and human centered work. When

14:21

she's not working, she enjoys taking

14:23

part in pro bono work, volunteering

14:25

and mentoring others. Amanda

14:28

will be sharing one of her first job

14:30

experiences, working at her mother

14:33

and aunt's dry cleaning business, and

14:35

how it shaped her personally and

14:37

professionally. Hello, Amanda,

14:40

Hello, how are you all? So,

14:42

Amanda? Did your mama and Auntie work for

14:44

George Jefferson? They did not. Jacquelin's

14:50

first question, thank you? Down South Georgia Girl two

14:52

hundred and fifty three episodes

14:55

over eleven seasons. Jeez,

14:58

that's a hit show, right, dow, Amanda,

15:01

When you start working at this dry cleaner?

15:04

Number one? Was it hot? Was this sticky?

15:07

Like? Did you care to do

15:09

the work? Were you forced into it? Which

15:11

was the case with you? Oh wow? So

15:13

no, I was more like in high school,

15:16

in college and um,

15:19

it was very hot in the summer. So

15:21

in the summer, yes, they didn't

15:23

have they had air conditioning, like way in

15:25

the front when the customers come in, but

15:28

where all the cleaning happens, extremely

15:30

hot, and there was a back door propped open,

15:33

and yeah, so therese

15:35

fans and I was always

15:38

very clammy and sticky and sweaty.

15:40

Um. Yeah, it's kind of yeah, it's

15:42

like a boiler room. Um, because

15:45

that's how to ask press is going right, Yes,

15:47

hot machines, processed steamers,

15:50

washing machines. I did it

15:52

just to help out. I didn't want to be

15:54

there, no,

15:58

but you know, it's hard work, and you know

16:00

you have to help out the family, you know.

16:02

To help them out made me feel better because they would

16:04

leave really early, like at five in the morning because

16:06

it wasn't our drive, and they'd

16:08

have to go and start up the machines

16:11

and the boiler it's like an hour ahead,

16:14

so they were always up super early.

16:16

I didn't have to go that early. And they were there

16:18

six days a week, so it's basically one

16:20

day off. That's hard work because there's a lot of lifting

16:23

and and moving big bails

16:25

of clothes. Like I don't think people think

16:27

about how much clothes you really

16:29

have to like process and move that

16:31

the machines don't do. Like you still gotta

16:34

like five and ten pound bags or clothes and

16:36

doing that six seven hours a day. Man, you easily

16:39

lift over two three pounds of clothes in a day.

16:41

Really, if you cumulatively think about it, what

16:44

was the worst part about it for you? The worst part

16:46

is the safety pins. So

16:49

the I don't even know if they still do it today.

16:51

So like you tagged the clothes, so

16:53

like if you drop it off, you'd have your little number,

16:56

so we'd like put the safety pin to

16:58

match the tag to the order and

17:01

keep all the pieces so they don't get lost.

17:04

Um. So yeah, they'd be like a

17:06

container of all these open safety pins, grab

17:08

mom, just constantly getting stuck and closing,

17:11

opening or missing. Um.

17:14

I think that was probably

17:17

the most painful part. And then sometimes

17:21

you know some drop off some of the

17:23

stuff is you know, it's dirtier

17:25

than other people clo So yeah,

17:27

exactly, expand like

17:31

don't glaze over that, Amanda dirty,

17:36

It's just like stains. Um. There

17:39

might have been a pair of drawers people

17:42

Dracqueen, they draws. Should you Dracquean

17:45

draws. I don't think thank you underwear

17:49

occasionally looking

17:51

at you know what, never meant I'm sorry, Amanda.

17:54

Did they pay you because this is your mama

17:56

and your auntie? Oh

18:00

no, sometimes they would give money,

18:02

but no, no, it's all

18:04

voluntary. I owe them.

18:07

So the homie pair Sauche,

18:09

who was on during one of our Women's

18:12

Weeks episodes, said she used to

18:14

wear to clothes. She

18:16

thought that ship was nice and glistening.

18:18

Facts should take them clothed and full spin

18:21

at the local club for a night before bringing

18:23

it back before the pickup date. Did

18:26

you ever do anything of that nature?

18:28

Had you seen that it's

18:31

time to snitch on your mom? And if snitch on you

18:35

know you got a cousin. I used to wear people's dresses, so

18:40

they would never But in the any

18:42

ac dry cleaners that had a basement and

18:45

so it was an older building and they had bought it from

18:47

someone else the business, so there

18:49

was actually a rack of

18:51

a bunch of clothes that haven't been picked up

18:53

over the years. So like

18:56

you know, people forget or maybe they moved,

18:58

so after a certain number

19:01

of time it gets moved there. So

19:03

I personally would go in and kind of like

19:05

look through their acts and you

19:07

know, I'm just like I kind of like this and kind

19:10

of like that. So if it was like a

19:12

lot of years, I would, um, you

19:14

know, try it on. There's been to hunting

19:16

right there. I respect that that that's because that's

19:18

like going to the thrift store, and I'll going to the thrift store.

19:21

I like that. This

19:25

is two women running this business,

19:27

your mom, you're on. Talk about

19:29

that because women doing these

19:31

things a little while back that

19:34

wasn't necessarily easy,

19:36

but they were putting things out there and getting

19:38

it done. Let's talk about that please. Yeah.

19:41

So both immigrants, right,

19:43

so they're originally from a soul of

19:45

Korea, you know, didn't have a college degree, always

19:48

wanted to do the American dreams. So

19:51

they actually had a couple of businesses before, like

19:53

a little snack shop, but you know, food

19:55

business is kind of hard, and there was a

19:57

community of a lot of Korean

20:00

the head dry cleaners, so you know they

20:02

kind of had a network and then lean on each

20:04

other for information. So yeah,

20:06

it was like really impressive because I

20:09

totally don't have that entrepreneurial street

20:12

and you know, I knew I

20:14

would never like take over the business or

20:16

anything like that. Like I

20:18

didn't look you know, I didn't want that environment

20:21

at pre first in front of my laptop.

20:24

Um. Yeah, so it's very

20:26

hard work, but they had a lot of pride and

20:28

they were excited because it was their

20:30

own and they were their own bosses.

20:32

But it was a lot of hard work and there would

20:34

be times where would be slow or busier.

20:37

Um, it's always slower in the summer for some reason,

20:39

maybe kids are off of school. There's not just not

20:41

as customers. But then fall it

20:44

really heats up and then they'll be like wedding season

20:46

or proms, there's a lot of dresses or

20:48

alter because they did alterations too, So

20:51

that actually helped bring in a lot

20:53

of income because my aunt was a seamstress,

20:55

so uh, dry cleaning

20:57

and alterations together helped it.

21:00

Um. Yeah, I think it

21:02

was hard at the beginning, just getting into that community

21:04

in the neighborhood. But with a good

21:07

customer service. My mom did

21:09

a really good job of like getting

21:11

to know her customers, you know, by

21:14

name. They're like family

21:16

when they come in, you know, the regular

21:18

she would know their name and just go and

21:20

get their stuff right. So it

21:22

was a lot of that. I think one on one that was good

21:25

for them to have regular customers

21:27

and then you know, as their kids grow

21:30

up and if they're still

21:32

the neighborhood, then they come in with their business.

21:34

So it's hard work because it

21:36

was like twelve hour days,

21:39

fourteen hour days, but

21:41

yeah, it was pretty good.

21:43

Everybody's close. I'm telling you right now,

21:46

if I ever worked twelve hours

21:48

in the heat next to a steam, I'm leaving

21:50

with a tuxedo. There's

21:54

probably one there for you.

21:58

Wait, let me slip down that base and to see job, got

22:00

got something at forty six a loon. You

22:03

just say the word good,

22:08

that's warm, and that's beautiful, Amanda, Because like

22:11

standing on the shoulders of those women and seeing

22:13

them work hard, I always felt like there's something

22:15

about working in heat, like

22:18

little physical heat, that builds

22:20

a degree of tenacity in

22:22

your work ethic that remains

22:25

with you no matter what industry you're in. And

22:27

I'm sure that a lot of the woman

22:29

that you are today is because of the women

22:31

who were there and force you to work

22:33

for Graham Crackers. You are a testament.

22:40

Yeah, I think you know to clerate,

22:42

you know, Okay, maybe you got paid in white grapes. Maybe

22:45

you know it was a good week. It's prompt

22:47

season, you know what, going down to cook crack.

22:49

I'll pick out some rits, maybe even Keebla

22:51

clubs. Get good ship, Amanda,

22:54

thank you so much for coming on the job fair

22:57

well. Appreciate you. Thank you for we

22:59

don't always to get it. See this is a nice warm

23:01

one. We don't always get

23:03

a nice warm like usually worst the first as

23:06

chaos. But this woman just came up. Yeah,

23:08

my mom and my aunt taught me hard work and

23:11

perseverance. What else.

23:13

That's it? It was, But

23:16

that's the beauty of family. And if you're

23:18

blessed enough to be able to have your kids at your job,

23:21

I think you should be able to take them there

23:23

and get a little bit of free labor. It ain't illegal. Ain't

23:25

see nobody at least ain't seen nobody to go to jail for it,

23:27

not anymore. Yeah,

23:31

so that's what it's all about. You. Thank

23:36

you, Thank you for me

23:46

job that

23:48

get it because we always do. About

23:51

this time, let's

23:53

take this show off the rails and visit our black

23:56

people. White people are leg just it's his job

23:58

to give you topics to

24:01

bring up with co workers. You can't stand coworkers

24:03

of the opposite race. Maybe

24:06

it's a co worker sitting next to you on one

24:08

of them down with angled uncomfortable

24:10

toilet, trying

24:12

to have a little chit chat. Do

24:14

women do that? Do you talk to the stranger in the next

24:16

stall over? Oh? Yes, tissue.

24:20

I put my hand in there. I'm like, hey, I need some tissue.

24:22

Whoa, whoa, whoa. We're

24:25

talking about having a just talking.

24:27

I just won't wipe my hand. About

24:29

taking a ship at work. You're gonna reach under the

24:31

thing. J Yeah, I'll put my hand

24:33

under there if I need tissue. And if she has on cute

24:35

shoes, I'm gonna say, oh, cute shoes. Yeah,

24:38

while your asses out, y'all just be talking.

24:41

I'm not standing there in

24:44

the bathroom forever, and I'm not

24:46

taking up. It's just I

24:48

can see your shoes. It's the

24:54

dick is out. Stop talking like the moment.

24:57

Like men literally will talk right up

24:59

until the urinal, stop

25:01

talking, and then as they leave the urinal

25:04

resume their thoughts and resume

25:06

the conversation right like I never stopped.

25:10

He was getting a little nice shoes and due can

25:12

have on fire shoes at the urinal

25:14

and I will never He'll never know. It ain't

25:16

coming out of my mouth. I don't see

25:19

him. I'm not telling no other dude

25:21

that his shoes a fly in the euro You

25:23

ever looked under the stalls in the women's room, Jacquel,

25:25

and so two sets of shoes. I

25:33

do go to nightclubs my job,

25:36

rod looking.

25:40

All I have to do is pee, wash my hands

25:42

and get out. That's all I do in bathrooms.

25:46

Uncle Clifford and uncle murdered

25:48

in there. That's all I'm saying. He

25:51

is the uncredited inventor of

25:53

the strip of pole. The patent was stolen

25:56

from him, so it doesn't get the

25:58

credit that he's doing. Side

26:01

Dude of the Year, Essence

26:04

Magazine, two thousand nine,

26:07

two thousand ten, two thousand

26:09

seven, Tenthible Crown. His mama

26:11

named in Naratto. We call him

26:13

Ride for short, right, Welcome

26:16

back is always brother? What's that? Let's

26:20

get into it, man, what's going on out there?

26:22

What the folks need to be There

26:25

was some small talk we can make with these co

26:27

workers at the job this week for your

26:29

black co workers. Right

26:31

now, there's a beach brewing

26:34

in the tattoo and rap

26:36

world. Uh. Drake's

26:39

father, the famous Dennis

26:41

Graham, got a tattoo

26:43

done Drake back in two thousand seventeen

26:46

on his arm and didn't

26:48

too much look like Drake, And he

26:51

recently revealed it on Instagram,

26:55

and Drake come in it that he didn't

26:57

he didn't appreciate it and he thought it was fun step

27:01

and his dad agreed and

27:03

also said that, uh, he's

27:05

headed touched up sixteen times

27:08

trying to get it right over

27:10

the course of the last And

27:13

if you don't know anything about the tattoo

27:15

world, one of the cardinal rules

27:17

in the tattoo world is you do not work

27:20

on another artists

27:23

work. And the fact that this nick in the head

27:25

and touched up sixteen times by like nine

27:27

different people is not sitting well with

27:30

the original tattoo artists. And

27:33

there's some beef ru in between all three of

27:35

them right now. What

27:38

are you gonna do? Though? Why is that such a sin?

27:41

You know? If you did a shitty job

27:44

and I need somebody to fix this eyebrow,

27:48

run to find Drake daddy's tattooed

27:50

for us real quick, because it's like, how

27:53

do you I'm

27:55

fixing your fuck up? We don't supposed

27:57

to come back to you. That's taking a mechanic

28:00

fix you. I don't appreciate you taking

28:02

your car to another transmission

28:04

place. Bit you fucked up the transmission.

28:07

Think about like this, homie, Like if

28:09

you if you see

28:11

the Mona Lisa but you don't like her nose,

28:14

and you decided to go in the museum and pay

28:16

over the Mona Lisa, you will You

28:18

know, people say you sucked up the Mona Lisa. Cats

28:21

who do tattoos kind of look at it the same

28:23

way, like if they put something on you and

28:25

then you let somebody else work on that ship. It's like

28:27

letting somebody else work on their drawing and work on their

28:29

art. Okay, then let's let's so then

28:31

let's take it to something we talked about during art week.

28:35

Let's take it back to what we were talking about during

28:37

art week, um with your boy

28:40

about the murals and how a mural

28:43

is essentially a tattoo for a city

28:45

or for a building. Right right, right,

28:48

right right, Kobe died, Nipsey Hustle died.

28:51

Some of the murals did not look good.

28:53

Am, I supposed to just let a bullshit

28:56

Kobe Bryant mural that don't look like

28:58

Kobe. Just stay

29:00

there and let people laugh at me

29:03

while I walk around with this non Drake

29:05

looking motherfucker on my body.

29:08

I'm with you on that, Roy, You're you're you're

29:10

a big time baseball fan, and

29:12

I agree with that. He did

29:15

not look like drink. That's

29:19

real bad that he's

29:23

got Drake down to about the eyebrows. Once

29:25

you get below the eyebrows, it's

29:27

like, oh

29:30

wow, it was like

29:32

if Drake was a vampire. But

29:35

it's Drake upset with his dad for

29:37

altering it, or its Drake upset for his dad getting

29:39

the tattoo in the first place. Well,

29:43

Drake's not really upset, but

29:46

he just joked around about how you

29:48

know he didn't he didn't like the tattoo. I

29:50

think the quote was, you know, I can't. We're

29:53

supposed to be fair black. I can't believe that's

29:55

funny. Okay,

29:57

why the fun

30:00

audacity of the original artist to get

30:02

offended that I wanted to correct your work instead

30:04

of just telling everybody what the funk you did

30:06

to my arm? You fucking untalented

30:08

motherfucker, Like, how do you especially

30:13

when you live out of town? I can't keep flying

30:15

back and forth across the countin fucked

30:17

up my arm and I can't change

30:20

it. But then I also can't tell the world

30:22

that you did a bad job. What

30:24

the funk am I supposed to do with this? Then?

30:27

What about the people who get so I

30:29

don't know. I don't look much respect

30:31

to anybody with tattoos. I understand as an artist

30:33

you don't want nobody touch it and change it and tweaking your

30:35

ship. I get it. But if

30:37

it's a bad job, what the fund is that I'm

30:39

just supposed to live with that? Because you got a code.

30:43

I'm the one walking around with the ship on my arm. Nick, if

30:45

you give a bad tattoo, you should have to give yourself the same

30:47

tattoo. How about that? There's

30:51

got to be some sort of there's no accountability

30:53

for the bad tattoo artists in this scenario.

30:56

This is a truth two

30:59

things. One, what if the artist doesn't

31:01

think it was a bad tattoo, because

31:04

obviously he didn't what they

31:07

think? Yeah,

31:09

Like, it's customers always

31:11

right. It's just the same ship

31:14

with chefs when you go to some fucking

31:17

what are the fucking white table

31:19

claw fass fucking functions? And there's

31:21

no salt and pepper shaker on the table,

31:23

and then you've been chef seasoned

31:25

exactly how he wants.

31:30

All right, you need some more salt on this ship. Yeah,

31:33

I don't believe in that kind of ship. There's a lot

31:35

of unwritten rules that gotta go. Like you

31:37

know, like I would say, like you, you're a baseball fan,

31:39

and there's a lot of unwritten rules and baseball

31:42

that don't make a lot of sense and

31:44

are very intiquated. And I said, I support

31:46

this, this tattoo ship, like that ship about

31:49

you know, you're not supposed to let another person work on

31:52

somebody else's work. It's just like, look, bro, it's

31:54

my fucking stomach. I

31:56

asked for this. I don't like the way it looks.

31:58

I'm gonna go to somebody else. I really don't give a

32:00

funk about what you're gonna do bad me from getting tattoos

32:03

or some ship like get the funk out of here, like

32:06

these tattoo artists who misspelled

32:08

ship. That's my favorite brand of

32:10

tettoo. Motherfucker no

32:13

regrets, and it gives no regrets, no

32:16

regrets. I can't change

32:18

that. It's terrible. I can't change

32:20

that. I can't come back. I gotta come back to you only.

32:23

I mean, what did your tattoo say there's no regrets.

32:25

You can't go back, you know what I'm saying. That's the whole point.

32:27

You can't go back. You

32:30

gotta live with it. But they don't say no regrets.

32:33

You

32:33

can. But

32:35

you're gonna think about it the next time, ain't

32:37

you. You're gonna think about the next time. You gonna look at your

32:39

tests and be like, I shouldn't have done this this way.

32:41

I don't have any tattoos, so I'm wondering they

32:44

don't sketch it out first, like on a piece

32:46

of paper and say this is what I'm about

32:48

to tat on you or put on you. Yes,

32:50

they do, but but the thing is just, you

32:53

know, they could sketch it out, and if it's artistically

32:55

drawn and it looks right, you think it looks right.

32:58

And sometimes, uh, people

33:00

who do go in to get tattoos and they're inebriated.

33:03

You're not supposed to be. Then that's both to

33:05

tattoo on you when you're when you're drunk most

33:07

times, but like you know, you're supposed

33:09

to be sober. Now the dude who did this tattoo

33:12

said that Drake's dad was in pain

33:14

after four hours of the session, so

33:16

he rushed to finish it. And

33:19

I and I think that makes you sound

33:21

like artists on

33:24

your end, you know, like you should rather

33:26

just be like I'll stop and

33:28

you come back, rather than me rush it.

33:31

It's that person's

33:34

there's nothing worse than than somebody who

33:36

does some type of art that thinks

33:38

of themselves like an artist, because those are

33:40

the people that always ass wholes and

33:42

do a stupid ship, like that ship you were saying about the chefs

33:45

and all that, Like yeah, like, bro, I want some salt.

33:47

I really don't give a funk about what

33:49

you think it's supposed to. I'm the one eating

33:51

it. I'm putting the flavors

33:54

must contrast perfectly with

33:57

the Hollandais and the burn days and

33:59

then my lo shot lots my ship.

34:02

It's like those people who like you don't put steak sauce.

34:04

So if the steak is good enough, it don't need steaks.

34:06

I like, it ain't called fucking

34:08

apple sauce, nigger, It's called steak sauce.

34:11

It goes on some

34:14

fucking sneak sauce. I'm eating

34:16

steak sauce. That's

34:19

the end of it. Good barbecue doesn't

34:21

need sauce. Uh. If you've got great

34:24

vegetables, you don't need salad dressing. When

34:26

does the ship here? You give me a bad

34:28

tattoo? I'm going to somebody.

34:32

Why not plastic surgery? Right, same

34:35

nigga funked up your ass and plant. You

34:37

don't go back to them. That's art,

34:41

that's body art.

34:44

Oh, I'm sorry. One of your one of your

34:46

breast and plants went around the corner and rubbing

34:48

up against your red cage. How

34:52

the dare you go to another plastic

34:54

surgeon to get your titty repair? I'm

34:58

offended. Ridge know

35:00

they was

35:03

mad about the pain, so I rushed

35:05

a titty.

35:09

I rushed the procedure. And then

35:13

it's not my funk. Don't

35:16

fly out

35:20

of here. Let's

35:23

flip it up for him. Rock uh.

35:26

In the in the news for your

35:28

white co workers, we've got

35:30

another instance of

35:32

people attempting to arrest

35:35

animals and put them through the criminal justice

35:37

system and whatnot. San

35:41

Diego Sea

35:43

World, two

35:46

orcas a k a. Killer whales got

35:49

into a fight in one of the tanks. One

35:52

of them hurt the other one kind of bad and

35:55

now Peter is suing

35:58

and calling for an investing ation

36:01

the Department of Agriculture of the United

36:03

States of America. And I don't

36:05

understand what getting

36:08

the law involved it's supposed to do. Wales

36:11

got into a fight. What the fund does that

36:13

have to do with who who's supposed to stop

36:15

that? Is Peter going after

36:18

the whales. Is this like the monkeys

36:20

throwing the dogs off the roof and the monkey got

36:22

taken in the customers? Or it's Peter

36:25

arguing that Sea World put

36:27

to beef and when you put a cryplin and blood in the same

36:29

cell, and that's inhumane the

36:31

cryp and blood ORCA should have had separate

36:34

tanks. Is that with their argument? What

36:36

Peter's argument is is that this

36:38

is a symptom of them being in captivity

36:41

when SeaWorld retorted, which is

36:43

one percent right. This is

36:45

the ship that happens in the wild

36:48

every day. This has nothing to

36:50

do with them being here. They could have

36:52

fault in the fucking Pacific. Wales

36:54

fight, that's what they do. We're not

36:56

at fault for. This is an

36:58

insane kind of up to see. I tell

37:01

you should have put the animals in there, like animals

37:03

don't fight in the wild. I gotta give it

37:05

up to See World. They have really taken

37:07

some major blows p r

37:10

y s and fiscally, and they are

37:12

still determined to keep that god damn

37:14

park open. Like no,

37:17

goddamnit. People want to see

37:19

trap seals open.

37:22

Survive the propaganda that is

37:25

Freewheeling. If you can survive a

37:27

worldwide movie really

37:30

to destroy you, nobody's going

37:32

to stop you. If stee World was still open after

37:34

Freewheeling, ain't ship no happen.

37:36

It's gonna change the Sea World. Ever. Of

37:38

course, the documentary Black, which

37:42

is the one that came out about ten years

37:44

ago, and that was the one that

37:46

broke down all the bullshit that goes on the Sea

37:48

World and the mistreatment of all

37:50

of the whales and all of that that stuff.

37:55

Long live Tillicom and

37:58

people were going old Fox

38:00

see World. SeaWorld is an abomination

38:02

closed Sea World. Um.

38:05

These numbers are from

38:09

thank you down South, George girl. Um.

38:13

That fucking documentary came

38:15

out in h M

38:20

in eighteen. Sea World's total

38:22

revenue one

38:24

point three billion US dollars.

38:29

You ain't gonna shut us down. Motherfucker's

38:33

give it a loop billion, You're

38:35

not gonna win. People are never going to

38:37

care. In total, revenue

38:40

was a record three hundred and seventy point

38:42

eight million dollars. Wait,

38:44

no, that's fourth quarter. Just the quarter three

38:46

months See World made almost four million

38:49

dollars and three months at the end of twenty one.

38:51

You know what, shut that dad one a law suit. I mean, it's

38:54

good for the attentions there, but I just think

38:56

that we live in a country where eighty five

38:58

percent of people don't give a funk about much.

39:01

If you have to have an alternative them to get

39:03

people to stop some ship that's not harming

39:05

them, and unless you've got another way

39:07

for motherfucker's to see whales and dolphins

39:09

up close, Sea World will remain

39:12

open the same reason zoos ain't go nowhere.

39:14

People have hated them for a long time. But

39:17

just like my nigger, I ain't gonna see no line, no all

39:19

the way. I'm sorry, I'm going to the zoo. After

39:21

the documentary Blackfish negatively

39:23

impacted SeaWorld. The

39:25

park lost sixty

39:28

five million dollars in this settlement,

39:32

so that soldier says, take

39:37

sixty and shut the hell Up. Its

39:44

podcast is Uncle Rod Story Corner Rod.

39:46

I'll leave you back to smoke your purple

39:50

arcle and your jolly green jelly bean

39:52

or whatever the funk else. You and Ride have

39:55

been discussing off Anna

39:58

discuss that with himself. I

40:01

think I think it was this available

40:04

that their cupcake. You just right,

40:08

and Ride I didn't

40:10

say ship, No, you

40:12

did not. Maybe that's

40:19

why he went there. Jacolin what it was right?

40:28

Crispy Tree too, It's TC.

40:31

This is the original recipe

40:36

scam of a week time. Now

40:38

we know music is a duplicitous industry,

40:41

third is very much

40:44

a topsy turvy kind of place. We

40:46

have O G on the line now, who has seen

40:48

this industry evolve over

40:51

you know, a couple of decades, a couple of

40:53

iterations from physical copies to digital

40:55

copies and now you know, the streaming

40:57

world. I want to talk a little bit about the

40:59

evolution and that and how that's changed. And also I'm

41:01

sure he has some shitty jobs in his life before

41:03

he got in this game. J G. Who's on the line.

41:06

We are joined by hip hop DJ and

41:08

producer Dion Roster

41:11

Roots. Dion has held

41:13

a variety of titles throughout

41:15

his career to being a tour DJ

41:18

and manager for a

41:20

tribe called Quest Fight

41:23

Doll Yes

41:27

Forever o gez Um.

41:30

He's also held a position of

41:32

label head of his own imprints,

41:35

Smoking Needles, and most

41:37

recently adjunct professor

41:40

of Hip Hop Composition. Dion

41:42

will be talking to us today about his

41:45

impressive music career and

41:47

what exactly goes into teaching college

41:49

kids who cannot sit steal about

41:52

hip hop. Hi, Hi, good

41:54

to meet everybody. Thanks for having me. I was a pretty

41:56

impressive I hope I

41:58

said it. You can thank book

42:00

Ayat for that is always

42:03

digging up all the great black points for

42:05

sure. So let's start with where

42:08

you were before you got your music music. The

42:10

music industry always seems interesting because everybody

42:12

I know that's in music, at least from the time period

42:14

where you started. It started

42:17

with, well, motherfucker, was fun to do. I don't

42:19

know how, made no money, and then you look up a couple

42:21

of years later and you're making money. What

42:23

were some of those jobs that you had beforehand?

42:26

I was always doing music as a hobby.

42:28

The worst job I can think I had it was good and

42:31

bad. It was working as a deckhand for

42:33

a deck building company. What does a deckhand

42:35

do? You know anything that he doesn't want

42:37

to do? You dig the holes when they're building

42:39

a deck on the back of somebody's house. The good

42:45

issue with the job I had was the gentleman

42:48

that owned the company was also a bodybuilder

42:50

heavy on steroids. So

42:53

the royd rage

42:59

and row at the work.

43:02

It's my first time experiencing it. Man,

43:06

it's faster and like how fast you're bringing the plink?

43:09

Literally anything I did wasn't right. Like

43:13

there was one time I kind of

43:15

slammed my hand and started bleeding and

43:17

I went to him. He was like mess stop. He was like stop

43:19

bleeding on my deck, and it was like he didn't

43:21

care, like what was going on, Like yeah, it was like

43:23

a gash. Are

43:26

you talking about? What I mean? Your lucky.

43:29

The lady who owned the house who rebuilding

43:32

deck on was very nice and she kind of wrapped my hand

43:34

or like this is in Maryland, so she had

43:36

like a maid or something helped me wrap my

43:38

hand. But it was just Harden because he's thinking of like

43:40

the blood on the deck, I got to pull up the boards

43:42

and re apply those, so he's thinking

43:44

more money. But the roid rage was so crazy.

43:48

Nothing was right. I could bring coffee, it wasn't the

43:50

right amount of coffee and it was nuts. How

43:52

old are you? I was like maybe

43:54

twenty, Yeah,

43:57

that's wrong. Those are the young days though. Plus

43:59

of dude with the bodybuilding, I'm with you, I ain't really,

44:01

I ain't. Ain't there for that smoke, not at that age.

44:04

The kicker is at that time, I

44:06

think my car had broken down, so

44:08

I had a tool bell with my hammer and stuff,

44:10

and I would inline skate to work. So to

44:12

be like me skating for two miles

44:15

to get to work, to get abused, and then asking

44:17

you were as you was inline

44:20

skate on those little shorts. Yeah,

44:23

the site to roll.

44:29

But I'll tell you that that was the fittest

44:32

summer I've ever had because I was I was skating

44:34

five miles a day. So

44:37

how do you get from that into

44:39

music? How do you start tiptoeing

44:41

and finding time to do the gigs and

44:44

get into the production. Your

44:46

resume is so deep, we don't even have time

44:48

to unpack all of the legends that you've worked

44:50

with and been able to help architect their

44:52

careers. But just buying

44:55

large your entry point

44:57

into the music industry then, versus

44:59

how some I should be trying to get into it now,

45:01

what would you say? Sure, I was DJing

45:04

throughout college. That was like a hobby, but

45:06

it ended up being like a job pretty much

45:08

because I literally stopped

45:10

studying. It was just DJing the whole time. After

45:12

I graduated from college, I ended up

45:14

getting accepted to the JET program, which is a

45:16

japan exchange teaching program

45:18

in Yamaguchi, Japan. So

45:20

I went to Japan for three years and

45:23

that's where I kind of honed my DJ abilities

45:25

as far as rocking the crowd. Somewhere

45:27

in the middle of that, I ended up starting to produce

45:30

and then moved back to Atlanta because my mama moved from

45:32

Maryland to Atlanta. While doing my DJ

45:34

thing on the radio eight eight point five and You're a point

45:36

three point one for sure,

45:39

I kind of bumped into Fight

45:41

personally and started kind of working with him

45:43

in the studio, and then from there he asked me to do a show

45:45

with him at University of Maryland as his DJ,

45:48

and then it kind of sparked from there. But I was still

45:50

at the time working as

45:52

an interpreter for a railroad

45:54

company. Interpreting Spanish and

45:56

Portuguese for their railroad installs

45:58

in Brazil and Mexico. So you speak

46:00

a little French as well. I understand French.

46:03

I speak Portuguese, Spanish and conversational

46:05

Japanese. So when

46:08

we talk about the music industry,

46:11

I want to get you out of here on this. For the

46:13

new artists that are coming up, and

46:15

we talk about contracts and we talk about

46:17

streaming revenue, what

46:20

advice would you give to new artists

46:22

and producers such as yourself

46:24

who are trying to avoid getting scammed, I

46:26

would definitely say, you know, there are

46:29

two schools of thought as far as being independent

46:31

signing with with the label. I always

46:33

believe in meeting people where they are. So

46:35

if I'm coming to the table with a movement and

46:38

they're looking at the analytics of how many followers

46:40

you have, your engagement with your followers and your fans,

46:43

and ticket sales, and if I if I can bring

46:45

up package to the table that makes

46:47

them want me versus me just wanting them,

46:50

that could be definitely a beneficial relationship.

46:52

But if you're coming with nothing and they're

46:54

risking everything as far as putting up the money to put

46:56

out your project and they're gonna assume the risk

46:58

of that, then there's no real benefit to

47:00

the labor really or you, because they're probably not going to

47:03

push you if you don't already have one movement. I mean, as much as

47:05

I dislike six ninths in music, he

47:07

did a lot of that stuff on his own, which is

47:09

scary, scary good, you know what I mean, true

47:12

definition of being independent. Of course, there

47:14

was other things that went on, but he didn't need a label.

47:16

I don't think he was ever signed to a label for that matter.

47:18

If you're inner savvy and you know your fan base,

47:21

you know how to like have a call to action

47:23

for them to kind of move. When you see a movement, I think you're

47:25

good, and then a label will start beating and having

47:27

a bidding war for you. Dion hypothetically

47:30

speaking and very quickly talented

47:32

people, however, I don't have

47:35

any experience in those

47:37

corporate arenas whom

47:40

I call what do I do? I don't

47:42

want to be picked up, taken on this

47:44

world tour and then just drop back off

47:46

and the hood with the check of item down. What

47:49

do I do? George? Sure? I mean the first thing

47:51

you have to do, as much as it pains me to kind

47:53

of say and do this, sometimes you have to pay

47:55

to place. So that would include getting

47:57

an attorney, whether it's unretained

48:00

or someone you trust who's actually an entertainment

48:02

attorney, not just your boy's cousin who

48:04

did Maritle Low. It's got to

48:06

be someone who who's done entertainment and

48:08

knows the ins and out. It can be that you

48:11

thank you for sure.

48:13

Don't show up knowing nothing. And

48:16

I think a lot of people sometimes labels

48:19

catch you when you're on your down. So when they give

48:21

you a check with that's like a

48:23

new life for you. But at the same time, if

48:26

you kind of like stopping and position

48:28

yourself in a sense knowing that you know what they

48:31

want me for some reason, maybe this is worth

48:33

more in the back end. Let me take less on the front end,

48:35

and then my points in my partnership

48:38

with them will mean a lot more because you

48:40

know, there's there's there's more I p being

48:42

shared. You know, thank you so much for

48:45

coming on the show. Thank you. You have a shot out real quick

48:47

to that debt company. Well,

48:51

the funny thing it was called expertsbuddy,

48:56

my name's Jim. You need a death motherfucker,

48:58

come on down to Dutch to some money. We're

49:00

right off the freeway. It honestly,

49:04

no, I didn't after that day. I think it was a day or

49:06

two after I cut my hand. I never went back, but I

49:09

think I left it. I didn't even get a paycheck. I just

49:11

left with I was like more like, no,

49:14

it was bad. It was it was bad. Yeah,

49:18

Well, thank you so much for coming on the job, fab, brother.

49:20

We appreciate you. I appreciate you.

49:23

After the break, we're gonna get into the world of employment.

49:25

It's a job, Fab. We'll be right back job

49:35

fair bringing it home. So

49:38

we're gonna end this episode strong with a woman

49:40

who has had

49:42

a number of successful phase

49:45

into the world podcasting, but

49:47

more importantly does podcasting

49:49

with the heart and a soul and

49:52

wanting me to help people and help

49:55

your motherfucker's get your life together, get

49:58

your ship together. But she's also

50:00

been fired a whole bunch. I'm excited to

50:02

hear these stories. J G. Who do we have? We welcome

50:05

Bridget Todd to the show. Bridget

50:07

is the creator and hosts of the award

50:10

winning technology and culture

50:12

podcast There Are No Girls

50:14

on the Internet. Bridget got her start

50:16

in social change. Since then, she's

50:18

led training for human rights activists

50:21

and political operatives across the

50:23

globe. Bridget will be talking

50:25

with us about her career

50:27

and activism. Hi Bridget, Hi,

50:30

I'm so excited to be here with a warm welcome. Now

50:32

your arc interests me because

50:35

you know, everybody has done some level

50:37

of activism or claims to be an activist,

50:39

or they've posted a rainbow square

50:42

or purchased some June tenth ice

50:44

cream from Walmart, like we was talking

50:46

about a couple of months ago. But you have also

50:49

taught activism,

50:51

not just domestically but a board

50:54

over there in Australia. Is that

50:56

a good accent? Was that a good Australian name? Thing?

50:59

You will? Your framing this

51:02

against the Aborigine the racist. That's

51:06

such a little British to me. But that's

51:09

the only one I got. That's the only accident I

51:11

got it British colony. What

51:14

is the difference in messaging

51:16

to activate people in a country

51:19

that I'm ignorant. I've never set foot

51:21

on the continent of Australia, but I would assume

51:24

the aim is plugged into the wokety

51:26

wokeness as we are in the States. What is

51:28

that like, training people to

51:30

fight for what's right? You know, Australia.

51:34

So I had never been to Australia before.

51:37

I had never set foot there. I didn't know anything

51:39

about it. And how I wound up in Australia

51:42

for a month training activists is because

51:44

I lost a job. I had nothing else going

51:46

on. I was waking

51:49

up at one pm and someone

51:51

just called me and was like, hey, you're not You're like

51:54

a bum who's out of work and has no plan.

51:56

It's certainly not job searching right now, right? And I said

51:58

that it is correct. This is a brand, this

52:01

is a friend. And she said, well, you want to get on

52:03

a plane to Australia. And two

52:05

days later I was on a nineteen

52:07

and a half hour flight to Australia

52:10

to train human right activists.

52:12

And you know, it's Australia's

52:15

very different from the United States, but also very similar.

52:17

They definitely are interested in

52:19

sort of telling the story of how people can get

52:21

plugged in, especially around things like climate

52:24

justice. Um, so yeah, it was definitely

52:26

a very interesting experience. That was

52:30

the fire. They

52:33

burn like, they burn like California, do yes.

52:36

Yeah, they have some real serious climate and

52:38

drought issue. I was just saying the koalas,

52:40

but go ahead, you know, did

52:43

Koala's kind of assholes? Much like

52:45

the pen that's propaganda

52:48

that is also a poisonous

52:51

just like plants. You can't have a koala bite

52:53

your dad? Is that true? I

52:55

know, Bridget is that true? Down South

52:57

Georgia girl checked out? Down

52:59

South George A Garribon check that real question? Circle

53:02

back to the HeLa muster Kuala bite.

53:04

What is the first thing

53:07

you teach someone in another country

53:09

about activism? People come

53:11

to activism and organizing in all kinds of ways.

53:13

You can just learn it from your parents, learning

53:16

it from just having a passion and you know, connecting

53:18

with people who share that passion. Um For

53:20

me, I was plugged into like a formal

53:23

program to learn how to be an organizer run

53:25

by a dude called Martial gans Uh.

53:28

And it was like a real like crash course

53:30

into professional organizing for social

53:32

change. And I would say the most important first

53:35

step would really be that it has

53:37

to be about a story or

53:40

that taps into values. Right, if

53:42

somebody came up to you and they said, hey,

53:45

did you know, like if they threw you know,

53:47

scary facts and figures at

53:49

you about police brutality or climate

53:51

change. You would just shut down because who wants

53:53

to hear that. But if they told you a story that

53:55

tapped into your values, that's what

53:57

really motivates people to action. And so you can't

54:00

scare people are dooming gloom people. You've

54:02

got to give people something to root

54:04

for it, to hope for it, and to feel good about people

54:07

of your walk of life. I've always found intriguing

54:10

because there's something

54:13

I don't know if it's genetic or

54:15

whatever, but like just helping and trying to make

54:17

a difference. It's just in you because you didn't

54:19

just stop in Australia. You brought your ass on back

54:21

to the States and then you're like, yeah, let me go on

54:24

do a podcast real quick. Let me go on do a

54:26

podcast and just you know, making

54:28

a hit podcast, you know, real quick.

54:30

And then you know, I'm gonna do another podcast.

54:32

You know, I'm gonna help people and help people and

54:34

help people. Talk to us a little bit about

54:36

what you're doing now in the digital

54:39

sphere and with

54:41

regards to tech, because we don't get a

54:43

lot of black folks in

54:45

tech. First off, ain't the eight were

54:51

already booked one that was last year.

54:53

We win't no no other one.

55:00

You'll have all of us in a month. You

55:04

step out of one fight and step into another

55:07

fight? What drives you to

55:09

keep doing? So many of

55:11

the different issues I was working on, I realized

55:14

we were coming up against the same issue, which

55:16

is that if we don't have a digital landscape

55:18

where we can talk about these issues in a

55:20

way that is safe, in a way that is accurate, then

55:22

we'll never get anywhere on them, right. And so I

55:25

started to sort of zoom out and

55:27

see the health of our Internet

55:29

and the health of our digital spaces as really

55:32

critical to making any kind of progress

55:34

or headway on all the different issues

55:36

that are impacting black folks today. And

55:38

so that's really what I do. I advocate,

55:41

you know, I meet with leaders at platforms

55:43

like TikTok and Facebook to advocate for

55:45

better policies, and I want

55:47

to tell stories about how black

55:50

folks we have always been what makes

55:52

technology great, Like if it was if it wasn't for black

55:54

folks, Twitter would be the most boring place

55:56

on earth that no one would ever want to

55:59

spend time, right, So exactly

56:04

know, if it weren't for black folks. There would be no Sony

56:06

PlayStation, there would be no Xbox, there

56:08

would be no Dreamcast. The very

56:10

first console that was ever made was made

56:12

by a black man. That's right, right,

56:16

And I want to say that it was assisted at Hill

56:18

start the protocols for the Internet. That's right.

56:20

That's right. And it's one of those things where I've

56:22

always been like a big tech nerd type.

56:24

And the story I always told myself is that

56:27

the Internet and technology is a white boys

56:29

club, and people who look like me have been trying

56:31

to break through the real story. We've

56:34

been there all along, and if you didn't know our

56:36

story, it's because they were erased

56:38

or they were you know, not given the shine they

56:40

deserve. And so my work is really uncovering

56:43

all the ways that black folks

56:45

and other marginalized people we've been

56:47

there shaping what it means to show up in technology

56:50

into the Internet from the very beginning. And we

56:52

need to take up more space, like we

56:54

are so dynamic and

56:56

creative when it comes to how we show up on the Internet,

56:59

and it's time that heck leaders and white

57:01

tech bros really give us that shine. I

57:03

have one quick question about Australia when

57:05

you were there, Did you have to deal at all? Because you're dealing

57:07

with race and a place that it started like us,

57:09

but it ain't like us. But the whole

57:12

rabbit Proof Frience. I watched a lot about

57:14

the rabbit Proof Fences and how they separated

57:16

the Aboriginals from their families

57:18

in order to raise them like Australians

57:21

and then allowed those same Aboriginal

57:23

a ka Black Australians

57:26

who are raised by these white families and they tried

57:28

to take away Did you have to help when

57:30

you talked about dealing with activism and help, did

57:32

you have to explain or help with

57:35

that kind of a situation at all? Yeah. And so

57:37

the work that I was doing is focused mostly

57:39

around climate, and so just

57:41

the same way that it is here in the United States, climate

57:44

is, you know, a racial justice issue. You

57:46

know, Indigenous folks, black folks, brown

57:48

folks who are who are disproportionately impacted.

57:51

And so that climate work was

57:53

really linked to indigenous

57:55

and human rights work, and so you know it

57:57

wasn't It's so interesting how for

58:00

them there is the I

58:02

don't know, I guess here in the United States we have a hard time

58:04

talking about climate as a racial justice

58:07

issue and a race issue. Not so in

58:09

Australia because it could not be clearer

58:11

and it's like explicitly what's happening

58:13

and everyone can see it. Thank you, down South Georgia

58:15

girl. Third, you are right koalas

58:18

and all four types of koalas. There's a bacteria

58:21

known as long Panella

58:23

which if it breaks the skin barrier

58:26

in a koala bite, it can cause an

58:28

infection. Also koalas. Thank

58:30

you again, down South Georgia girl. Run

58:34

to see

58:37

nasty little tree rats, that's

58:39

what they are. Koalas

58:42

can transmit clamidia to humans

58:44

that come into contact with their urine,

58:46

and it is not unheard of for koalas

58:49

to urinate directly onto

58:51

people. They are assholes, Jacklin.

58:53

But you go ahead and pray for the koality bridgetide

58:58

the podcast the podcast ass

59:00

is there are no girls on

59:03

the internet. Thank you for everything

59:05

you do here in the States. Thank you for

59:07

everything you do over overseas.

59:09

Yeah, you're crossing the PISTI checking

59:13

out the racism. Too many donkeys over

59:15

there, you know, I'm gonna move some of these donkeys over

59:17

here with them. I'm

59:20

not even sure what accent that was about.

59:24

Bridget. Thank you so much, Thank you so much for having

59:26

me. This was a dream come true. Thank you.

59:30

That's the show. Royce job Fare is a product

59:32

of I Heart Media, Comedy Central,

59:34

Paramount in south Park, Prince and Entertainment,

59:38

Hawaii. Yes, I will

59:40

be there ship

59:42

When is it the

59:45

Blue Note downtown Honolulu.

59:47

Let's say, don't start me to line. I ain't going. I

59:50

don't know nothing about j J. You going, I'm

59:52

not going. You're not going ride

59:55

You're going to Hawaii? No, apparently

59:58

I can't go without Jack woman go

1:00:01

to Hawaii without her? Wait a minute,

1:00:05

to Hawaii, Jaqueline,

1:00:09

I ain't nobody nobody right, All

1:00:12

right, I'm

1:00:14

I'm gonna go, but I really I want to go to

1:00:17

I want to go to Korea and watch baseball, but I

1:00:19

gotta do this stopping

1:00:21

away so Korea had coming

1:00:24

at the time. Uh, that's the show.

1:00:28

It's Sunday, August that you're

1:00:30

going to be at the Blue Enail Comedy Series

1:00:33

in Honty and Saturday. I'll be there Saturday

1:00:35

too. We added a Saturday show. This

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