0:07

We continue on on the Big Friday Show, Fred Rugan, Rodney Peat on

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five seventy LA Sports. David Basset joins the show. Coming up next hour,

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Dodgers and Braves get to it tonight out at the stadium. About eleven

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twenty five this morning, it came down Darvin Hamm had been fired. It

0:24

was something that many people in the city wanted. They were chanting fire Darvin

0:31

as the Lakers were wrapping up at Crypto dot Com Arena against Denver one game.

0:37

It seemed as if ham had lost the confidence of some of the players,

0:42

so the Lakers made the move. It was not unexpected. Eight sixty

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six nine eight seven two, five seventy. We have some people on hold.

0:49

We'll give you a chance to win in this first segment here this hour.

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But I will say this and consider this as as we discuss it with

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Lebron and Ad and whoever, because that's really what this is now. Lebron

1:03

Ad and whoever whoever the coach is, can they win a title with that?

1:10

Lebron Ad gonna pay them both, You got them good? And whoever?

1:15

Can they win the title? Because if they can't win the title,

1:19

then you can't fire another coach, because that doesn't make sense. You're sending

1:25

somebody into a no win situation. Now, if you think with lebron ad

1:27

and whoever they can, that's a different story. But we'll take those calls.

1:33

Eight six six nine, eight seven two five seventy Frank and Pasadena has

1:37

been holding and we appreciate that. Go ahead, Frank, Hey, Delma

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enjoy the show. First of all, with the way their roster is constructed,

1:46

in my opinion, they cannot win a title. I mean a lot

1:48

of this is on the front office. Darvinham had those guys play hard.

1:52

Yet you know, maybe he got second guests of some of the rotations,

1:55

but those guys are all professionals. But if you look at Denver, essentially

1:59

they got three seven footers Michael Porter junior six' ten with a seven to

2:02

two wings span, Aaron Gordon's legitimate six nine almost six ten, and Jokic.

2:08

Then Minnesota. Minnesota has three legit seven footers, and then they have

2:14

all kinds of athletes that are nine deep. They're and everybody that's a pro

2:17

athlete. They play hard. They're unbelievable, especially in any any sports,

2:22

NFL and NBA, but the Lakers do not have the horses. I don't

2:25

care who's coaching. You know, it's the old saying. You know,

2:29

you can have all the hexes and o's, but if you don't have the gyms and the Joe's, you're not gonna do it. And they just don't

2:35

have it, and they you know, I don't know what, but the

2:37

way the roster is constructed right now, Lebron James is going to be forty

2:39

years old. Amazing player, but you know, eventually father time is going

2:44

to catch up. And Anthony Davis an amazing player, but he is injury

2:46

prone. So uh no, and the other guys they have esctually and it's

2:52

not a it's their journeyman basically got it, Frank, But Frank, thanks

2:57

thanks for starting us off there. I appreciate it. Yeah, it's doff

3:00

Frank, good stuff. And he makes a lot of valid points because that's that's kind of what I think a lot of people feel, especially insiders,

3:07

that they're they're missing, they're missing one or two key components in terms of

3:15

players that they don't have. They have a nice roster, but they don't

3:20

have a roster that will outmatch much many people. Whereas Denver's got so many

3:29

advantages with their roster. When you talk about the guys he talked about,

3:32

who's cardon, Michael Porter Jr. Who's Garden Aaron Gordon? Right? Yeah,

3:38

And then you throw a deadly shooter like KCP on that team, who

3:43

has got wide open looks on a regular basis because everybody's so focused on the

3:46

joker, and then Jamal Murray running the show. I mean, it's come

3:51

on, how are you stopping that? Randy and Riverside? I appreciate you

3:55

holding what do you think? Hey, guys? You know, first,

4:00

if Lebron's gonna take the fifty four and Ad is making what he has,

4:04

just like the first caller said, we can't afford nobody. All we're doing

4:09

is putting a band aid on a gunshot wall and untell where you're dressed.

4:15

I mean, if Lebron really wants to win, then don't take all this

4:17

money, But then let them afford to get other players around him, and

4:23

and and maybe we can get some of these two way players and some big

4:27

guys and and a good backup center so that when Ad goes down, because

4:30

right now you're just gonna play musical chairs with the coaches. You're putting a

4:34

coaching in nowhere situation. Nobody can come in here and just expect to win,

4:40

especially with that team over there in Denver. You know there, they

4:45

they've done everything right, and we have good players, but we don't have

4:49

great players to go along with everything that we have right now. Randy,

4:54

appreciate the call, Thanks so much. I don't understand the NBA salary cap

5:00

enough or the way contracts are constructed. I don't know if it works that

5:04

Lebron could get him a hometown deal. Could he sign for less? Yeah?

5:10

See, that's the that's the weird part, because I don't I don't.

5:12

I don't understand it to that extent either, But I do remember.

5:17

I remember some years back there was issues that they that the Players Association had

5:21

for guys taking plate Bay cut. Do you remember that, Yeah, Yeah,

5:26

that they weren't allowed to do it or it was against the rules or

5:29

something like that. We'll have to find find that out for for sure,

5:32

all right, Adam can find that out for us. Yeah, Adam,

5:34

See if you can figure that out, maybe you already know the answer to

5:38

that question. Can guys take less money than they're supposed to take? Or

5:44

does the Players Association frown on it? How does that work? Well,

5:47

he could the CBA, Yeah, they would frown upon it. Lebron doesn't

5:54

want that. But also I don't think it would make that much of a

5:56

difference because you're already over the first apron of the salar recap, so there's

6:00

already restrictions there. You know. People think, well, if we didn't

6:03

have Lebron, we could just throw fifty million at some other guy. That's

6:06

not how it works. You can keep your own guys through bird rights they're

6:11

called, and go over the cap to bring in other guys. It's more

6:15

difficult. This was put in and implemented so franchises could hold on to their

6:19

stars, and that's what's happening with the Lakers. It's the same thing with

6:23

the Clippers. People think, oh, if you don't have Paul George,

6:25

that's fifty million dollars off the salary cap. They're over the second apron.

6:30

They're paying the luxury tax now, so that's all included. You're not going

6:34

to have fifty million more to play with. Almost cheaper to keep Paul George

6:38

than it is to get rid of them and try to get somebody else you're

6:41

just not going to have a significant upgrade because it's getting more and more rare

6:46

that you find big names through free agency. It takes trades now typically to

6:51

get that done because the best teams they don't have much salary cap available to

6:57

go after these top free agents. Isn't becoming more putitive now with the new

7:01

CBA, it's gotten even more strict. It will be more strict this upcoming

7:05

summer. They are putting the clamps on teams that are willing spenders, which

7:11

is kind of annoying because come on, and the salary cap going to go

7:15

through the roof now with the new deal that we'll talk about a little bit

7:18

later. Yeah, it could go up thirty percent, but it's not going

7:20

to happen in one offseason like it did when the Warriors got KD which was

7:25

the dirty little secret about that. There was a salary cap spike of thirty

7:28

percent so they could bring in Kevin Durant. That was a fluke. Adam

7:30

Silver Even said, so, all right, Brian and West Hollywood, go

7:33

ahead, thanks for holding h Yes, I guess you get various few points

7:38

about the head coach of the Lakers. I want to say first, that

7:42

the ultimate goal of the Lakers were to be in the NBA Finals. Obviously

7:47

that was not happening. The second problem was the Lakers could not finish in

7:54

the top six in the NBA Western Conference. So those were two areas that

7:59

the Lakers thought they were capable of having happened to this team this year.

8:03

The third area was Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian,

8:11

Bryan, do you think they should have fired Darvin Ham? And if

8:15

you do, do you think with Lebron and a D and whoever supports them,

8:18

they have a chance to win a title? What do you think?

8:22

Well, that's a question mark as to whether he should or should not.

8:24

But there's reasons behind him. No, Brian, we don't want the reasons.

8:28

We don't want the reasons, Brian. The question is do you agree

8:31

or disagree with them firing Darvin Ham? And with Lebron and a D no

8:37

matter who the coach is, those two and a supporting cast, do you

8:41

think they can win a title? Those are the question? I think that

8:45

was the question. The question was could the Lakers make the finals this year? And Brian, you're listening to the wrong You called the wrong station.

8:50

Brian, you called the wrong station. Thanks. No, we never said

8:54

could the Lakers make the finals this year? Pretty simple because it doesn't Darvin

8:58

Ham, we're talking abo darn. Yeah, it doesn't really matter if they

9:01

could make the finals this year. There didn't, and they fired the coach, so we don't have to go back to the litany of why they didn't

9:07

get there. The question is do you agree with the decision? And no

9:11

matter who the coach is, if you have a d and Lebron and supporting

9:15

players, do you think they can win a title? Isaac and La go

9:18

ahead. They should not have fired Darvin Ham. They cannot win a title

9:24

with two divas who are locking down the young development of our players with unlimited

9:31

potential. That answers your question. Well that was great, by the way.

9:37

How are the two divas rocking down the development of young players? Because

9:41

Lebron sits on the ball too much when it's in his hands. He has

9:46

this beautiful body that he doesn't want to get bruceed, so he doesn't work

9:50

in the paint and you see how many charges he took in the Denver series

9:54

talking about get brued. No, I'm talking Wait a minute, mister football

9:58

taking charges. Yeah, football, I was drafted four times in baseball.

10:05

Don't call me mister football. Hold on you get a hold on, Isaac.

10:11

No, no, no, no no. You don't get to talk

10:13

like that. You don't get to say hold on, no, I what

10:16

is wrong with you? You didn't watch the series Roan Lebron, the whose

10:22

commentary was about Lebron taking charges at thirty nine years old, he got struck

10:28

by Zion. He stood in front of Zion Williamson and went flying. No,

10:33

here's what you gotta understand. Talk about. Here's you gotta understand.

10:37

From our guy from West Hollywood had called, you got to answer the question.

10:41

You gotta answer the question we asked. And then from Isaac, thank

10:43

you for listening. Isaac. You gotta understand the show's called Rogan and Rodney,

10:48

not Isaac. Hold on there, mister football, I got a question,

10:52

So you can't. When the show is called Isaac on a five seventy,

10:56

then you can do whatever you want. But when it's ours, you

11:01

can't be coming on here calling people mister football. Yeah it was Jane.

11:07

Come on to go ahead, what do you think and be nice to mister football? Right? I got you so to answer your question, No,

11:15

he shouldn't have been fired. But first of all, he should have never been hired in the first place. And second of all, Anthony Davis and

11:22

Lebron James aren't winning anything. The fundamental problem with this organization is all the

11:28

way at the top. As much as everybody likes Jennie Buss and loves her

11:33

and all that, she's completely she doesn't know what she's doing. She's got

11:39

people that's in a place that don't know what they're doing. As far as

11:43

Rob Polink is concerned, if she could go out and go outside of her

11:48

family and try to find some real basketball people, things might change. But

11:54

until Lebron James is gone, there's no championships coming here to Los Angeles.

11:58

Thanks, thank you very much. Appreciate the call. Eight sixty six nine

12:01

eighty seven two five seventy. Adam in La Adam, you've been holding.

12:05

We appreciate it. Go ahead. Yeah, so it doesn't matter who the

12:09

coaches for, not only for our team but for any team. Since they

12:15

got rid of hand checking, defense has disappeared. They have got rid of

12:18

handchecking, elbow checking. There is no defense. There's no more. Bed

12:20

Wallace's okay, so you're not allowed to defend anybody. Every game is a

12:26

fifty to fifty shot. That's why Milwaukee loses to Indiana. That's why there's

12:31

a different NBA champ every year. That's why the entire records for every single

12:35

team in the NBA is darn near fifty to fifty. Okay, like you

12:39

might be a little bit of a better shooter. That's why the world has

12:41

caught up on the world stage. If handchecking was still allowed, then we

12:46

would still be blowing out teams in Lithuania by one hundred points. But it

12:50

doesn't happen because they know how to shoot, all right, Thank you, Adam, appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, I'm not change over time,

12:56

you got you gotta adapt to the game. Same thing in all sports. You know, there's pitch clock in baseball. Right. Football has turned

13:03

into offensive game where you can't do things from a defense standpoint, So you

13:07

got can't use that as an excuse. That's just the way the game is

13:11

now. This is two thousand and twenty four, not nineteen seventy four.

13:16

Wait a minute, mister football, Okay, you captured that el Roddie.

13:22

He's son of a a See when he started saying coaching doesn't matter much.

13:28

I thought he was going to go in a different direction. Hey, these

13:30

guys today they make a lot of money. You know, at times they

13:33

don't even listen to what you say. That's what I thought he was going

13:35

to say when he goes to it doesn't matter because you can't handcheck. Yeah.

13:41

Yeah. And by the way, when you point out, well,

13:43

nobody can hand check, right, So I mean you still got to play

13:46

the game. And when you point out, well, you know you can't

13:48

hand check. So look what Indiana did to Milwaukee. Okay, Well,

13:50

if Gianna's played what they had done the same thing. That's another issue.

13:56

It's the injuries in the league. Alberto, I guess listening on the app

14:01

in Georgia. Alberto, go ahead, guys, I love the show.

14:05

Lifelong Laker fan from the East Coast. We should have never fired Darvin Ham.

14:11

I don't think he's the problem. These guys are not going to respond

14:13

to any coach because it's not about the team, it's about them. Unfortunately,

14:18

one of the things I wanted to mention is what is Lebron's record winning

14:22

percentage since he's been in LA. It's atrocious they're not committed to the organization,

14:30

they're not committed to the fans. As a lifelong Laker fan, I

14:33

was very disappointed to see the final interview after the loss to Denver and he

14:37

doesn't even have the respect to say thank you to the fans. I know

14:41

that a lot's going on, but he can't comment and he wants to hold

14:45

his prisoner. It's time for us to retool, it's time for us to

14:48

start new and you know, turn the page in a new chapter in Laker

14:54

history. I appreciate the time to get one. Thanks Alberto, thanks for

14:58

listing it on the app. Georgia. Yeah, I can't get with you

15:03

know, people nitpicking a person right after they get bounced from a series,

15:11

and and not not picking the right words all the time, or not saying

15:15

the right thing all the time because it's a it's a it's a moment and

15:18

you're in the moment and not everything every time the right words, or you

15:24

forget to thank people, or you don't say something that you might have said

15:28

in a calmer situation. You got to get people passes on that. Ryan

15:33

in La thanks for holding go ahead. Yeah, I think Darvin Ham should

15:39

have been fired the day after he was hired. He's a week hired. I mean, that's not the guy you bring into an organization like the Lakers.

15:46

I mean you got to go for, you know, someone with a

15:50

little bit more full and you know, a little bit more of established guy.

15:56

Yeah. But but but Ryan, let me ask you this. Did

16:00

he get them to the Western Conference Finals last year? I think he did.

16:04

I mean they're good they yeah, absolutely, but again it was a

16:08

water It was a water downfield, and you know, Lebron and n ad

16:12

are going to be able to carry you and get you some wws. But

16:15

at the end of the day too bringing them back, especially Lebron. I

16:19

mean, you know, if you're talking basketball around this town, there's nobody

16:23

that is ever like just super positive and all in on Lebron, and it's

16:29

vice versa. He's not the same with the organization. So I think it

16:32

is time to move on. A lot of the other callers had it exactly right and and just kind of scrap this little project. Takes a little bubble

16:38

championship and move on. Thanks, Ryan, appreciate that call. Eight six,

16:44

six seventy. Here's what we'll do. Let's take a break, Ronnie,

16:48

So let's just do this right now. The line. The board is

16:55

full, The board is completely full. If if you're on hold, I've

17:00

you know, I've got Bill Sean, Eric Leon another Sean. If you

17:07

guys stay there, we'll take you any other side. Then we'll finish up the calls. And we've got two lines open. And it's not a little

17:14

bubble championship. Okay, not a little bubble championship. Fred. We talk

17:18

about mister football. Yeah, uhh yeah, it's Friday. It's Friday,

17:36

and we don't care. Now we've been talking about Darvin Ham and and I

17:42

know a lot of Laker fans. I want to spend a lot of time

17:48

reliving the you know, the whole season the last two years. But the

17:52

question is should he have been fired? Right? It's very simp Yeah,

18:00

shouldn't Should he have not been fired? What do you think about that?

18:03

He can debate all this, you know, all the other stuff at a

18:07

later date, but that's what we're trying to figure out. If you guys

18:11

feel it was warranted by the Lakers to fire Darvinham. And on top of

18:15

that, because it ties into who no matter who the coach becomes, if

18:18

you have a d Lebron, They're getting paid, and a surrounding cast of

18:22

character. No matter who the coach is, can those guys win a title?

18:26

I think one guy we might be able to take off the list of

18:30

possible coaches is Tyron Lou Adam Corn Adrian Warzowski. This came out a little

18:37

while ago. Quote the Clippers are determined to do a long term deal with

18:41

ty Loo. They want him to be their coach for a very long time,

18:45

as they should. You're gonna get that's better than him. It's him

18:48

and Spoe. Those are the two best head coaches I think in the league.

18:52

Right, Okay, well rush him off the list. Let's get back

18:56

to it. Bill and Pasadena, thanks for holding Should darvinham have been fired?

19:00

And no matter who the coach is, if you have a D and

19:03

Lebron and a supporting cast, can they win? Hey, guys, I

19:07

love the show. I'm gonna get to Darvin hamm in a real quick second.

19:11

I want a little comment to mister football. Nineteen eighty six USC Cal

19:17

State, LA. We were playing a pregame baseball game against USC. I

19:21

had a crazy coach, John Herbald, who was blowing a gasket seeing Rodney

19:26

Pete taking ground balls at third base in short, So that was just a

19:30

sidebar story. But right on back to so Darvinham, super nice guy.

19:36

The issue. Here's the litmus test. There are no teams lining up to

19:41

sign Darvin Ham as their head coach at this moment or in any foreseeable future.

19:45

And then secondly, well, Bill the guy just got fired. Bill

19:48

the guy got fired, he got two hours ago. Who's lined up?

19:52

No, he won't be like he will never have a head coaching job this

19:56

decade, I promise you. So super nice guy, but he's an assistant

20:00

coach. I didn't care for his assistant coaches. And last thing, Rondo

20:06

somebody with a high basketball like you like I am or JJ Reddick, I

20:11

am fine with that. No retreats, please love the show. Thinks,

20:15

I'll listen to the offline here. Appreciate it. Bilth thanks, No retreats.

20:22

No, but a retread is a guy with experience. It may look

20:26

doesn't matter who coaches Lebron, I mean he he goes who coaches like water.

20:30

He really does. The teams he's on, they go to coaches.

20:33

It just happens that way. So it's somebody that initially he'll respect. Yeah,

20:41

he's gotta be somebody. Yeah, definitely he's gonna he's gonna respect somebody.

20:45

And I think that's the reason that, first of all that Cleveland won

20:48

was that TYLERU was that one guy, yeah that was out there that could

20:52

stand up to Lebron yep, as close as they were. He could shoot

20:56

him straight and it was not gonna be emanated right by Lebron. And I

21:02

think that's that's the reason it worked for them in Cleveland, and uh and

21:07

and probably the reason why the Clippers want him, you know, long term

21:10

as well. But you got to get the rip pers. I mean, look, it worked in in Cleveland because they had first of all, they

21:18

had Kevin Love as as a as a role guy. But Kevin Love was

21:22

a was an offensive juggernaut when he was in Minnesota and still could play inside

21:26

and outside. And of course Kyrie Irvin could get his shot off with anybody

21:32

and go for forty a night if you wanted him to or needed him to.

21:37

You know, a d is a big man. But in terms of

21:40

a guy that can shoot the three, that can create his own shot, Lakers don't have that guy. I mean, Austin Reeves is developing something you

21:48

know, a little bit into that person. But who's who's LA's Jamal Murray?

21:55

Right, Who's who's the Lakes guy that uh that can create that the

22:03

MAXI from from Philly? Who's that guy for the Lakers? Donovan Mitchell is

22:10

gonna be out there there you go. He fits the mold of a Jamal

22:14

Murray. He can get his own buckets. I love that guy. Love

22:18

So you put him again to your question, Fred, you put him on

22:21

the Lakers with a D and Lebron. That's a whole different complexion now it

22:25

is. But will they have the depth when somebody gets hurt? Donovan Mitchell

22:29

got hurt for a while this year. Uh We, Lebron and a D

22:33

probably won't play seventy games next year. And you hit your finger, but

22:37

you gotta You can say that about every year and every team about injuries,

22:41

that that's part of it's gonna happen. But I don't stand the argument of

22:45

them being healthy. Can those three get it done? Well? It's hard

22:49

to say. We're either going to have three stars or we can rely on

22:53

our depth. You either get one or the other. They lose this season

22:57

because of a lack of depth. You could say they lost because they didn't

23:02

have that third start to go against the Denver Nuggets. But you can always

23:06

throw the injury caveat in there. If healthy, with Donovan Mitchell next to

23:08

Ad and Lebron James, you got a real shot. So what's more important

23:12

than that? Just say if the worst thing you have to worry about is

23:17

injury concerns, I think you can live with that. Say the roster is

23:21

whole, The roster is good enough. Now we just have to worry about

23:23

if guys are going to be healthy. A lot of teams have been dealing

23:26

with this, believe me, Marko Monrovia, thanks for holding go ahead.

23:32

Hey, guys, Darvin Ham should not have been fired. Everybody says he

23:36

lost the locker room. It was never his locker room. It's Lebron's locker

23:41

room. Lebron and Ad got to go. They're old, they're injury prone,

23:48

they've got Ruie, they've got reaves, they've got some good pieces.

23:52

Let's put some fresh faces around them. Somebody's not as dominant in the locker

23:57

room, and let's build a team without these guys that are old and breaking

24:03

down. Mark I appreciate it. We appreciate it, Thanks for calling,

24:07

Thanks for laying in a couple of thoughts here. First, those two guys

24:10

didn't really break down this season. Other thing is this, you share the

24:15

settlement of my twenty five year old son, Jack Rogan. Well, let's

24:18

just start again. Let's just blow it up now. I would have said

24:22

that in years past. Rodde and I have worked together a long time, though I would have said that. But I think over a period of time

24:26

I've learned something. If you do that, I don't think people are going

24:30

to be very receptive to it. Here in La. I mean, you

24:34

love the Lakers, you love sports. We're here every day. We talk.

24:38

The people that love sports out of the total population is a sliver,

24:45

believe it or not. To us, it's very important. It's what we

24:47

do. But walking around on the street every day talking to people, they

24:52

can go either way, and what do they know about the Lakers? Honest

24:56

to god, Lebron James that's what they know. We live and diet.

25:02

The majority of people don't. Oh they have Lebron. That's great. Maybe I'll go to a game and see him. And what will happen is if

25:07

you rebuild, which by the way is probably the right thing to do,

25:11

but unrealistic here, and you go through that period where they're not going to

25:17

be very good, and you're going to have these young guys learning and there's

25:19

no guarantee all of them catch fire and come together. I'll OKC, Now

25:26

you're screwed. Not now you're not no man's land, You're you're basically dead.

25:32

Fred. There's this revisionist history going around currently with people saying Lebron has

25:37

ruined the Lakers franchise. Allow me to remind you that in the five years

25:41

before Lebron James came here, the Lakers were averaging twenty five wins per season,

25:48

trying to rebuild, trying to develop young guys, guys who I think

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collectively now away from the Lakers have combined for maybe three All Star Games,

25:56

between D'Angelo and Russell, between Brandon Ingram and Julius Randall. So to your

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point to act like it's a guarantee you're going to find that superstar to build

26:07

around, just if you start over without Lebron James, without Anthony Davis,

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that's ridiculous. They weren't in a better position without Lebron James. Yet everyone

26:15

keeps saying that all of a sudden, he ruined the Lakers. Clutch ruined

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the Lakers twenty five wins per year for five years straight. Yeah, they

26:22

didn't ruin the Lakers. Look at they're better than they were. They got

26:26

a title, they got the bubble. But it's a title. Got a

26:29

title, IP stand and caveat on this. We gotta go back and talk

26:33

about every season. Okay, there's several strike ridden seasons. Let's eliminate those.

26:40

It was the title. It's in the rafters, it's in the record books. It can't change it. So if that's the case, they got

26:45

one, they probably won't get another. They probably won't. I think that's

26:48

your frustration every year. If you're a Laker fan, you're thinking, Okay,

26:52

we're in the conversation. We got a good shot as you analyze it,

26:56

if you look at it, And that's why should they have fired Darvin

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Ham? As a question, do they have the pieces in place to win?

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And can they possibly put those pieces in place to win if you're paying

27:07

Ad and Lebron that's really what it is. Sean in the South Bay,

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what do you think I think Darvin Pocketsham needed to go to be honest with

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you, guys, It's not going to fix all the problems for sure.

27:19

Like there's a lot of personnel issues going on, but I don't think that

27:22

has to do with Lebron and Ad. Like, the team had depth this

27:26

season, and the depth just kind of fell apart towards the end of the season, and it was pretty obvious to me that Haim is not the coach

27:33

that can pull the best out of his players. Really, look at Reddish,

27:37

A lot of those guys just were underutilized and just not being used well.

27:42

So yeah, I think that was the correct move. Thanks Sean,

27:45

appreciate it. Let's go Eric on the four to h five. Go ahead,

27:48

Eric, Yeah, a couple of things. You know, let me

27:56

ask the question. First, No, Darvin Ham should not have been fired.

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Uh, there is one other coach. It's a shortest sample size,

28:03

but it is only one other coach that has taken his team from the play

28:07

they started a few years ago, from the play in to the conference finals.

28:11

That would be Eric's Spolstra. And I gotta tell you something, if he was in LA with the unrealistic viewpoint of most Laker fans, which is

28:18

off the charts, ridiculous. If he was in LA he would probably have

28:23

beat We would be having a conversation about him in that same vein right now

28:27

because he hasn't won a championship in the last eleven years, which is again

28:33

utterly ridiculous. Now, your second part of your question was could they win

28:37

with Lebron and a D Go ahead? But the guy who just called talked

28:48

about uh, the surrounded supporting cast, and so Cam Reddish wasn't there for

28:52

this last series. Neither the left handed defensive specialist Eric. Eric. Yeah,

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all right, Eric, all right, all right, all right, So you don't think they should have fired him? Yes or no? No?

29:06

Okay, good, thank you, Thank you, Eric, Thank you for listening. Appreciate it. Let's go Leon and Beverly Hills. Go ahead.

29:11

Leon, Hey, there, I don't think you should have been fired

29:15

unless they have the right coach to replace him, which they apparently don't because

29:18

they're now in a coaching search. So unless you get a coach that can

29:21

actually like control, like tell like Lebron would respect and actually have the offense

29:26

controlled by the coach and not have Lebron just kind of, like, you

29:30

know, just do things like take bad shots. You know, with leads

29:33

and and not not do the right thing. I think I think the roster

29:37

is more important here. I think that that in terms two, in terms

29:40

of your second question, like the third start is probably needed now because of

29:44

Lebron's age. All right, I don't think, I guess I answer your

29:48

question. Yeah, Leanne, thanks, appreciate your call. Final one.

29:51

Let's just do it. Wrap it up here, Tony and Ellie go ahead. Hello, Hello Tony yep. Oh yeah, yes, thank you.

30:00

I'm sorry, I'm driving. Yeah, he should have he should have been

30:04

fired. Not because he was a bad coach, but he was a bad

30:08

leader. He didn't uh, he couldn't win over the players. It's not

30:15

because he couldn't win games. He couldn't win over the players. Great leaders

30:19

know how to lead other leaders. So you have the leader on the sideline,

30:23

the coach, and you have leaders in playing on the like Lebron.

30:32

Lebron would follow a great leader, but Ham wasn't that leader. And I'm

30:37

telling you, great coaches, great players make others great. They played better

30:45

they could be all right, no, don't open them back up. Yes,

30:55

all right now, thank you, Tony, thank you for the call. Thank you appreciated. Thanks appreciate all right, thanks for listening. Uh,

31:02

okay, no, that wasn't me, that was Ronnie. That was

31:06

Ronnie blood bloody victim. He victim, he sure did. All right.

31:11

We appreciate everybody calling. Uh. Coming up top of the hour, David

31:18

Vassy will join us as the Dodgers get ready to take on the Braves.

31:22

When we come back, the landscape of the NBA could be changing, which

31:26

would mean there will be more money for each team to spend on players.

31:30

If this happens and we will get to it, Oh, come on,

31:41

Ronnie, it make you want to get up and get going and get on

31:45

that dance floor. Ronnie. You damn right, you damn right. Let's

31:51

go Friday. We don't care Rodney, Pete fred broken. I'll tell you

31:55

what. NBA guys that takes some nights off, they won't care either of

31:59

this new cbe, this new broadcasting deal is signed. So here's a deal.

32:04

You know, when the NBA makes more money, the players make more

32:07

money. Just works that way, right, The players get more if the

32:10

league gets more. Yes, So the league's about to sign a new rights

32:15

deal that would be three times its current deal. It would be seventy six

32:21

billion dollars over eleven years. Now, that's not NFL money, but that's

32:25

pretty good money. That's real good for the NBA. Oh my god,

32:30

he said it's not NFL money, but mayn that old man, that's big

32:37

time. Yeah. Just goes to show you what you've been saying all the

32:40

time, Fred, is that live sports is really the last thing that it's

32:52

real for people to watch. Everything else can be taped, everything else can

32:55

be watched at a later date. It's the it's the one thing that it

33:00

still drives all the advertising. Yeah, live sports. So here's what's interesting

33:06

about this. So it looks like that Disney which is ABC, ESPN is

33:13

going to hold onto a part of the deal, all right, and they

33:15

would still have the finals at least in this version of it. Amazon,

33:22

which bid on the NFL package. Amazon is very interested in getting into the

33:28

NBA business, So keep them in mind. Comcast which is NBC, and

33:35

the streaming service Peacock, they are very interested in getting in. So what

33:42

you don't want to do is dilute it and put it in like five different

33:45

places. That you don't want to do because then you've diluted the product.

33:50

The asset. So let's say you have it on three different platforms. It

33:54

would be streaming on Amazon, if it was on Comcast, could be on

34:00

the NBC television network, it could be on Peacock, and they could also

34:05

air games on some of their cable channels. And what you're getting is live

34:12

programming which people watch live. You don't know the outcome. And let's be

34:19

abundantly clear, it's not like the NBA is setting records for television ratings.

34:24

But what it's doing is giving you a lot of content that is live,

34:30

yes, and that's really the only thing people are watching now. So if

34:35

you look at it from that perspective, you figure Disney's in ESPN can't afford

34:39

to lose that, right, they really can't. So they're in Amazon's got

34:46

really deep pockets. Yeah, they're blowing people out of the water now.

34:52

Yeah, so you got to believe if they want it, they'll get it,

34:55

all right, So that leaves one more one more piece of this puzzle,

34:59

one more piece of the pie. And right now, Comcast, which

35:02

is NBC and Peacock deep pockets too. Yeah, deep pockets, I know

35:08

that. Yeah, Yeah, all right, those guys can pay more than

35:15

Warner Discovering. You go, well, what the hell does that mean? Who is Warner Discovery? Goodbye Ernie Johnson? Goodbye tn T Yep, that

35:23

would be the one. Yeah, they might get it. That would be

35:27

the one. Goodbye Ernie Johnson, Adam, go ahead and pull that up

35:30

now, if you're in there, we'll do it now. Goodbye Ernie Johnson,

35:35

Goodbye TNT. If it shakes out the way people are suggesting, then

35:42

it would go espn ABC, Amazon, Comcast, NBC, Peacock, and

35:51

that would knock TBS out. And here's the problem. TBS quite frankly,

35:55

doesn't have the money to compete with the company that have streaming services. They

36:00

have Max, but that's not like what NBC's doing. And you in linear

36:06

television, which includes cable TV, you're losing money. Now. Fewer people

36:13

are watching cable fewer people are watching broadcast TV, which means you don't have

36:19

the kind of money to invest that a company like Amazon or Comcast has.

36:24

And if in fact, you said goodbye to TNT and TBS, you would

36:30

say goodbye to inside the NBA, which there are times that has more people

36:37

watching than the game itself. Yeah, yeah, it's a Humong is hit

36:44

and that would be a shame. But do you think if okay, say

36:46

say it is those three, it is Disney, it is Comcast, and

36:52

it's Amazon, right that one of those three will gobble up that show.

37:00

I would do it in about two seconds, right, wouldn't be an issue

37:05

here. This is what Charles Barkley had to say about the Laker coaching situation

37:08

the other night. Here's the kind of thing that made that show so good.

37:13

You know a lot of these people on television, they're cowards because they

37:16

want the players to like them. They don't want to do their job,

37:19

which is to tell the truth. And I just want to say it's about

37:23

coaching. Anybody who thinks the reason the Lakers suck is because of Darvin Ham,

37:29

or the reason the Sun sucked is because of Frank Vogel, you don't

37:32

know what you're talking about. Frank Vogel is a hell of a coach.

37:36

Darvin Ham is a hell of a coach trying to get his career started.

37:39

But for all you punks, idiots and jackass is on other networks who want

37:45

to be media, who want all the players to like, y'all, do your damn job. The Lakers suck and the Sun sucks because of the players,

37:52

has nothing to do with the coaches. I feel better now. Yeah,

37:57

that's the kind of thing that would go and TNT lost it. That's

38:02

the kind of thing that's why, and that's why they get gobbled up in

38:06

as in a heartbeat. Yeah, and then they right, So everybody there

38:10

is signed with Turner Sports, Charles. I think Charles just signed a deal,

38:15

right, He still got like a ten year deal like a couple of years ago, didn't he. Yeah, but I think he hasn't out.

38:19

If they lose the games, he can go. And if they lose the

38:22

games, there's no reason for him to keep any of them anywhere. What

38:24

are they gonna do? So what what do I think would happen there?

38:30

I think Amazon would swallow them up. I don't know if NBC would because

38:35

NBC's got to do everything its own way and they would prefer their own guys,

38:39

right, Yeah, they would have their own Yeah. Well, if

38:42

you look at their pregame show for Sunday Night Football, I think it would

38:45

be considered tamer or more sterile then let's say Fox NFL Sunday. Yeah,

38:52

you know, and the NBC believes it's the New York Times of sports.

38:55

And I'm not saying that in a disparaging way. They do. They want

39:00

to approach things like they're the New York Times. Now, if you are

39:04

realistic, fewer and fewer people read the New York Times than ever before.

39:07

But that's that's kind of how they see themselves. Fox is more with it,

39:13

hip in it, making things happen. ESPN finds itself in a situation

39:19

where they don't really have the courage or the knowledge to be Fox or TNT,

39:27

but they realize it works, so then they try to figure out ways

39:31

to copy it. I mean, I don't I don't think that's unfair to

39:36

say. No, No, I mean they all yeah, look, they

39:40

all are chasing inside the NBA. You know the ESPN show that they do.

39:45

They they they revamped that several times with several different hosts and different people

39:52

on that show. But they're but they found magic with with Charles and Kenny

40:00

and Shaq and Ernie drives the whole thing. And Ernie is so great at

40:05

what he does. Yeah, he is so good at it. And the mess between those those those guys is came together perfectly. So you can't manufacture

40:15

that, and and so many other stations have tried. But yeah, they're

40:21

gonna go somewhere and probably get paid a fortune to go to wherever they go,

40:25

and whether it's especially if it's Amazon, and you know something, honestly,

40:30

they all deserve it. Oh yeah, they all the best on TV

40:35

of all of all the different sports. It's the it's the best show.

40:37

Yeah, football, baseball, BASKETBA, you name it, it's the best.

40:47

All right, Devin vat Sable jump on here when we get back.

40:51

Is that I just getting ready to open that weekend series against the Braves.