0:00

Tune in, plug in, drop

0:02

in. That's uh a new

0:05

Timothy Leary. Okay, yeah, I

0:07

was like, I don't think that's right. Tune in, plug

0:09

in, tune in, drop in, plug in, get

0:12

in, fit in, fit in,

0:16

sit in, sit in. That was

0:18

more Timothy Leary. It's

0:21

tim Was Timothy Leary married or

0:23

an he date? Um, Like, I

0:26

don't know, Jazz drop Win or somebody.

0:28

They had a lot of free love, right, so at

0:30

the very least he had some he got

0:33

something, he got some action. Maybe maybe

0:36

we do an episode that's just the free

0:38

love movement since everybody was sleeping

0:40

with everybody, like, there's no particular

0:43

pairing to look at, just a

0:45

bunch of fucking going on with

0:48

no consequences. If we when

0:50

we do David Bowie, it's going to be a minute

0:52

because he sleep It was so many people.

0:54

I can't wait for the Bowie episode we

0:57

might have to do. Maybe we do multiple Bowies.

1:00

We might have to Bowie

1:03

and uh and him on Bowie

1:05

and Mick Jagger, Bowie and whoever

1:07

else was. His first wife was really

1:10

like instrumental in

1:12

his life, not no

1:14

pun intended, but his first

1:17

wife was a guitar but

1:20

she made David Bowie. She helped make David

1:22

Bowie like what he is. But anyway,

1:24

this is not an episode about David Bowie. Yeah, but it's

1:27

turning into it. Please go on. All right, let's talk about

1:29

Surprize. Different episode for you.

1:32

The title doesn't match, but you're getting something else

1:35

one day. We will. We let our hearts guide

1:37

us in this podcast. We

1:41

do research and then we come and talk about something we know

1:43

nothing about. That's a great podcast,

1:45

right, finish that one yet, a

1:48

man, Well, look,

1:50

we got some important housekeeping to do at

1:52

the beginning of this show because once

1:55

again, tragically we've

1:58

got to go sit down out in corrections

2:01

corner. You're

2:03

such a loser. Yeah,

2:05

this one's on me, I guess um.

2:08

Although I was trying to dig up

2:10

the source that misinformed

2:12

me and I couldn't find it, so maybe

2:15

it was me. But I still

2:17

think it was just written wrong somewhere out

2:19

there because I don't make mistakes.

2:22

No I do, And here's what I made. We had an

2:24

episode recently about Sid Vicious and Nancy

2:27

Sponging. If you haven't heard that one, check it out.

2:29

It's a wild ride. But near

2:32

the end, talking about some other

2:34

band members, from different bands,

2:37

and the name Jerry Only came up

2:40

and I said he was the

2:42

drummer from the Misfits, and

2:45

punk fans across the globe

2:48

cringed and passed

2:50

out because Jerry Only was

2:52

the basis for the Misfits. Duh

2:58

that wrong? And it's not an insult

3:00

to Jerry Only too, because you know, bassis

3:03

or one thing, but a drummer. Come

3:06

on, damn, you

3:09

gotta drummers can take it.

3:12

I had a friend and I would go watch

3:14

him play and only

3:17

watch him because I

3:19

swear this guy didn't have

3:21

a brain in his head, but he had a brain

3:24

separate for each limb because

3:26

they all just operated independently of each

3:28

other and made this incredible music. I've

3:30

never seen somebody drum like that. And

3:33

uh, and the coordination making

3:37

all four, you know, two hands and two feet

3:39

all do a different thing at

3:41

the same time is insane

3:43

to me. I'm like, I'm trying to get my fingers to do

3:45

different things and and they're all

3:48

tripping over each other. I can't imagine being

3:50

a good drummer. Good drummers are really impressive.

3:52

So there I insulted drummers and I lifted them

3:55

up a little bit too. That's what we do here on

3:57

Ridiculous Romance. We

3:59

kick you and then we help you back. And

4:01

yes, so we want to thank at old

4:04

timey cartoon villain for catching

4:06

that one, for us staying sharp. Jerry

4:08

Only would be proud. Yeah, thank you. Yeah,

4:11

And with apologies to Jerry Only, who I know is

4:13

a longtime listener of the show, I'm big

4:15

fan. But

4:18

that's not all. We've also got a

4:20

mail called awesome.

4:29

This one is from Jamie So Marge

4:31

who wrote during the episode about

4:34

Nesbit, White and Thaw, which, now

4:36

that I write that out, looks like a law firm.

4:38

But anyways, that's true. Coming

4:40

on and that's White and Thal have you

4:43

have you assassinated your wife's lover.

4:46

We've spent a lot of time defending ourselves. Now

4:48

let us defend you

4:50

if you if you need to escape the law called

4:53

Nesbit, White and Thal perfect.

4:57

So yeah, we were Where

4:59

was I? Where was I? When you all

5:02

were describing Stanford White? The first

5:04

image that popped in my head was Dr

5:06

Robotnick from Sonic the Hedgehog Love

5:09

It, So through that whole episode

5:11

in my mind was Dr Robotnick, an old

5:13

timey clothing doing all those things.

5:16

Awesome, that's pretty impressive.

5:18

Pretty close. He did giant red mustache.

5:21

Yeah, his pants pulled up too high.

5:24

He trapped animals in Little Robots?

5:27

Yeah, definitely all tracks? Yeah,

5:29

it all tracks. But did Dr

5:32

Robotnick ruin three hundred seventy eight

5:34

young women? Oh God, I hope not.

5:37

Stanford White is worse than Dr ROBOTICI

5:39

yeah, okay, that's fair. Otherwise

5:41

I need to really re evaluate the time I spent with

5:44

the sonic that Jog games. What

5:46

a weird character grate to give

5:48

this. Somebody should tune villain. Somebody

5:51

should inform Jim Carrey what

5:53

he's representing. Right, But

5:56

no, that's awesome. Thanks Jamie for

5:58

for reaching out. That

6:00

was awesome. Yes, I also gave

6:02

us a great bunch of great suggestions for

6:05

future shows, So thank you for that as

6:07

well. Indeed, so

6:09

now that we've got all that out of the way, as the house

6:11

clean, now, I think the house is as clean as it's

6:13

going to get as which is

6:15

its usual state at any given

6:17

time. Our house is as clean as it's

6:19

gonna get. That's not very clean spoiler

6:22

alert, look for working on it.

6:25

So it's a never ending project. You all know, everybody

6:27

knows it. So

6:30

with the house clean, we are here today to

6:32

talk about a Minotep the

6:34

third and his wife, Queen

6:36

Ta. Yes, this

6:38

is a BC power couple of epic proportions.

6:41

They reigned over a golden period

6:44

in ancient Egypt, and she

6:46

was the mother of the next pharaoh, the grandmother

6:48

of Teuton common and only

6:50

we all have heard of King tut Uh,

6:53

notorious batman villain. And

6:57

t A was also very influential in foreign

6:59

really tions, and together they

7:02

had quite an influence on ancient Egypt.

7:05

Uh. Hey, guys, this is an

7:07

ancient Egyptian story, and you know what

7:09

that means. There's not a whole lot of

7:11

documentation about what went on here,

7:14

but we managed to scrape together a

7:16

pretty solid story. And we're gonna tell you all

7:18

about these two coming up now,

7:20

Hey, their French come listen. Well,

7:23

Elia and Diana got some stories to tell.

7:25

There's no match making a romantic tips.

7:28

It's just about ridiculous relationships,

7:31

a love. There might be any type of person at

7:33

all, and abstract concept our concrete

7:36

wall. But if there's a story were the

7:38

second Glance show

7:40

Ridiculous Romance, a

7:42

production of iHeart radio. So

7:45

yes, let's talk about t A. First.

7:48

She was born around b

7:51

C. That's a long time ago, long

7:53

ast time ago. That is, well, okay, look

7:55

around, if you're gonna say

7:57

around, just round it up to fourteen dred,

8:00

right, come on around. Well if you just

8:02

you know, if you're ballparking, my ballpark

8:05

is such a weird, weirdly specific number.

8:09

Well, every everything in ancient Egypt

8:11

is maybe this, I

8:13

feel like, So, I guess they got

8:15

some DNA evidence now from mummies

8:19

and stuff that's like pretty like, oh, this

8:21

is definitely something, But most

8:24

stuff is like we're pretty sure and we're

8:27

kind of guessing and this might be

8:29

a thing, and we're argued. We've been arguing

8:31

about this for a hundred years, you know. Yeah.

8:34

This also just for a weird date

8:36

perspective that just flashed into my mind.

8:39

This is four hundred BC. That's

8:42

roughly sixteen hundred years before

8:44

Ella Goblis, which was roughly eight

8:47

hundred years ago now, so

8:50

almost as long between Amenotep

8:52

and t A and Ella Abolis as

8:55

Ella Ablis to now, long as

8:57

time ago is what I'm saying. Very cool, Yeah,

8:59

a lot on gas time, I guess. Yeah,

9:02

So TIA's father was named yu

9:04

Ya. He was a provincial priest

9:07

and commander of the royal chariots.

9:10

He owned a very large plot of land,

9:12

so he was considered to be one of

9:14

the wealthiest Egyptians

9:16

of the time. So pretty

9:18

sweet rich dad. Her

9:21

mother, too Ya, was like a

9:23

lady in waiting type servant for

9:25

the queen Mattemwa, who

9:27

was married to a minute the second. They

9:29

were very useful that way, with the first,

9:31

second, third. You always know who

9:34

kim's next, who

9:36

went first? Um And some experts believe

9:38

that as parents were not Egyptian but

9:40

foreign born, perhaps from Nubia. Some

9:43

debate about that, but it's interesting because

9:46

t A, if she was foreign

9:48

born, it would have been unusual for her to be

9:50

selected as a wife for

9:52

the pharaoh. So that that's why they're kind

9:54

of like, who know, We're not quite sure, but

9:56

yeah, So the whole family probably lived in the palace

9:59

or near it, and we're in and out

10:01

of there all the time. And too

10:04

Yeah was also a priestess

10:06

for the Cult of Men, who was the

10:09

Egyptian god of male sexual potency.

10:12

He was usually worshiped around harvest

10:14

time because he was it was all about fertility

10:16

for everything, not just not just men, but

10:19

also plants, um.

10:22

But of course it was all about having kids

10:24

to don't worry. Uh.

10:26

He is depicted in human form

10:29

holding his erect penis in his left

10:31

hand and a flail, which is a

10:33

threshing tool in his right hand. That

10:36

is m Is that how you'd like to be

10:38

memorialized? You know, I

10:40

wouldn't say memorialized. That

10:43

is how I would like to be forgotten. Yeah,

10:46

during the Festival of Men, they

10:49

would play all these games in his

10:51

honor. Stark naked. Oh

10:53

my goodness. I mean, you know, you

10:56

gotta show off to the god of fertility. Let

10:58

it flop around. Yeah, we want to see

11:00

it. Why why hide it from

11:02

this guy? It's this whole deal, all

11:05

right. He needs to be able to see what he's working with.

11:09

They would they have this game where they would all

11:11

climb a huge tent pole. Yeah,

11:14

very subtle. Worship

11:16

of men also involved eating

11:19

Egyptian lettuce. Egyptian

11:22

lettuce doesn't look like our typical iceberg

11:25

or green leaf lettuce or anything like that. It's

11:27

actually more of a tall stock

11:30

that grows straight up. And

11:32

here's a cool little science trick about

11:34

Egyptian lettuce. When

11:36

you rub the leaves, a

11:39

white milky sap I guess

11:41

kind of erupts from its stock,

11:46

and that that goo is

11:48

actually latex. So it's just

11:51

too many connections here, not of penis

11:53

stuff going on with this. Yeah,

11:56

we we get it. Lettuce. Okay,

11:59

call down a little, a little much really,

12:01

to be honest, like kind of little

12:04

heavy handed. They're a little on the nose. Just

12:06

don't get it on my nose. Oh

12:12

god, No, you take this lettuce,

12:14

you'd first offer it as a sacrifice

12:17

and then you'd eat it because

12:20

this lettuce was believed to be

12:22

an aphrodisiac. Can

12:24

you imagine the Egyptian lettuce and some French

12:26

celery all mits together in

12:28

a salad. We really make vegetables do a lot

12:31

of heavy lifting around here. Hey

12:35

they are I gotta make

12:37

your horny too. You

12:39

get an egg plant in the zucchini in there, you

12:42

yourself, nice, nice fertile

12:44

salad. Who

12:47

knows when it happened after a night of that kind

12:49

of salad, grossest

12:52

salad egg plant

12:55

and what now? I'm not interested anyway.

12:58

And women would touched the penis

13:01

of men on his statue

13:03

in the hopes of getting pregnant and hoping

13:05

for fertility, and that's

13:08

still something that goes on today. Like

13:10

they touched the penis the statue and they're like,

13:12

I hope this works. They

13:15

grossly misunderstand reproduction.

13:18

Men appears and he's like, you know you have to do more than

13:20

touch a penis, right, I'll send you a scroll

13:23

about it. But I think typically

13:25

no, it was just that they touched it hoping

13:28

that they would be fertile, not that touching

13:31

the penis would make them pregnant, but that it would give

13:33

them luck in getting pregnant, right yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:35

Man would be like, oh, thanks for the hands

13:37

ee, I'll make you. I'll

13:39

make you not barren. So

13:42

yeah, so this is what Ta's mom's

13:44

getting up to, I guess. And her dad too

13:46

was also involved in with men worships,

13:48

so that's what they were getting up to, squeezing,

13:51

let us playing games naked. And

13:53

she grows up in the palace and

13:56

she has some options open to her. Apparently

13:58

Egyptian women, even though it was still a very

14:01

patriarchal society in ancient Egypt,

14:03

they had more options open

14:05

to them than you might think. Um

14:07

Noble women like t a could

14:10

be priestesses for a god or goddess,

14:12

kind of like her mom was doing. Um.

14:15

They could be professional mourners who

14:17

were basically paid to like cry

14:19

for people, I guess and comfort

14:21

the bereaved. I guess it's kind

14:24

of like a funeral director now, like

14:26

you would maybe prepare the body and

14:28

stuff, or I was kind of

14:30

fixturing someone who just got paid to like go to Like

14:33

I kind of want that, like if

14:36

you can't get a bunch of actors to come

14:38

and just look like so miserable, Oh

14:40

my god, like for people who are, like I guess,

14:42

terrible people and have no one to come to

14:44

their funeral, Like that's so sad. I know, after

14:46

a life in the theater, I hope that

14:49

actors do show up and cry at my funeral,

14:51

but without being paid. Yeah,

14:54

but because for real and then they're like, I

14:57

can use your death as a impetus

14:59

for years and my auditions. Yeah.

15:02

I hope my death plays a strong part in somebody

15:05

getting cast in Death of a Salesman

15:07

one day in Angels

15:10

in America. There it is, I got it. Because

15:13

she could also choose to make perfume or

15:15

we've textiles or

15:18

she could be a dancer, musician, or acrobat,

15:20

employed at temples or at court. That

15:23

that was a noble woman's pursuits.

15:26

Um, so she had some options,

15:28

some career paths available to her. Yeah,

15:31

that's better than I had, I know, right,

15:33

I was like, there's some option, there's some good options

15:35

here. Actually. Um, but

15:38

t A was destined to be queen,

15:41

and she married a Menotep probably

15:44

when she was around eleven or twelve

15:46

years. You've

15:48

got all these career options laid out for you, nine

15:50

year old. Pick

15:53

your path wisely, you've got one

15:55

year to never mind, you're going to be married after

15:57

the king. Yeah, pretty much, that's fine.

16:00

You could do words, and she did all right.

16:02

And of course, in ancient Egypt, you know, generally

16:04

speaking, a lot easier to die in ancient

16:06

Egypt than it is today. So they

16:09

kind of were like, we gotta get on on. Yeah, you're

16:11

looking at your you know, fifties is

16:13

like old age kind of now

16:15

I'm in a tip. We're not sure exactly

16:18

when he was born. We're not even sure how old he was when

16:20

he came to power. A lot of people think he was

16:22

around ten to twelve. What some people

16:24

thought maybe even as young as two, but that doesn't really

16:26

make a lot of sense with the story that follows. Yeah,

16:29

because he reigned for thirty eight years, so

16:31

it's like, I think he was probably ten to twelve

16:34

just given the events of his life. That's

16:37

my my very professional, incredibly

16:39

academic, egyptology trained

16:42

opinion. Yeah, we

16:44

have recently watched The Mummy, so we

16:46

know what we're talking about, basically, Rachel

16:48

wise well.

16:51

Plus also, two years after he ascended

16:53

to the throne, he married t A, So

16:55

it's likely that he did that, you know, between

16:58

twelve and fourteen years old, and not when he is

17:00

four, right, because he you know, you

17:02

get married when you're ready to have some kids,

17:04

Like that's the point. So she was probably

17:07

old enough to have children, and he

17:09

was probably old enough to have children. And

17:11

back then that meant your ten to twelve.

17:14

Any time between Tener twelve, if you were thirteen,

17:16

it was like, Wow, what a grandma,

17:20

mate, I guess this one's done. A

17:23

Minutep was the ninth ruler of the Eighteenth

17:25

dynasty. For those keeping track

17:27

at home, he inherited a huge

17:30

empire to this thing stretched

17:32

from Syria to the

17:34

Sudan Uh. This was when

17:36

the Egypt was pretty broad in

17:38

terms of how much land they controlled. During

17:41

the thirty eight years of his reign, Egypt

17:43

was stronger and more powerful

17:46

than ever. During this time,

17:48

they had bumper harvests. They had just

17:50

years of peace and a steady

17:53

supply of gold coming in from

17:55

the Sudan region. I mean, very helpful cash

17:57

money. I mean this was given them the upper

17:59

hand all that their trade negotiations with other

18:01

nations. Egypt is on top

18:04

right now with a Mintotep in

18:06

charge, because see he was very innovative,

18:09

He had a lot of foresight. Um,

18:11

he was a great sportsman. He loved the outdoors

18:14

just at all and all. Pretty cool

18:16

guy. No other pharaoh

18:19

built as many temples and monuments

18:22

as a Minotep the third except for

18:24

Ramsey's, the second who ruled for a longer

18:26

period. But like, look, nobody Ramsey's

18:28

the second is the is the goat, right,

18:31

I mean we're talking lebron

18:33

of pharaoh's. This

18:35

guy was untouchable,

18:37

so we're not here to compare to rams right,

18:39

Okay, Ramsey's he's ruining

18:41

the curve. Yeah, yeah, So

18:44

excluding Ramsey's the

18:46

second was, Yeah,

18:50

some of his monuments and temples include

18:52

the very famous Luxor Temple.

18:54

Didn't we see a blue man group there? We

18:57

did? This is when ancient Egypt.

19:00

Oh the way, Las Vegas, there's

19:03

a big beaming light shooting out of the

19:05

top of the pyramid anyway, So yeah,

19:07

the actual lux are not the Vegas

19:09

version, but the real Luxir temple

19:12

was a Menotep, the third contribution

19:14

to the skyline of Egypt, and

19:17

also the Colossi of Memnon cool,

19:20

pretty cool. I wish we siled some Colossi. I

19:22

know, colossa what a dope word. Okay,

19:24

this seems like a good place for a break, right, and

19:26

we'll be right back after this, and

19:30

we're back. So he's reigning over the golden

19:33

age of Egypt, when the empire

19:35

had like great influence

19:38

on the international stage. It was at

19:40

the height of arts and culture. And

19:43

many pharaohs before this had depicted

19:45

themselves as great warriors because Egypt

19:47

was at war, you know, so you wanted a strong

19:50

fighter as leader. Um, but right

19:52

now Egypt at peace. So during

19:54

his reign, a Menotep the third was still

19:57

like listen, I'm still gonna I'm a

19:59

fighter, I'm a warrior. I can kick ass.

20:01

But he was leaning more into

20:04

his connections to the gods, and

20:06

it was more about peace and

20:08

maintaining order and that sort of thing, because

20:11

pharaohs would assume a five name titulary,

20:14

and it was meant to describe him and

20:16

his his program of his

20:18

reign. So it'd be like if we elected Biden,

20:21

but then his name became his entire agenda,

20:25

which would be wow time

20:27

consuming to say the least.

20:29

So all pharaohs had like a million different names.

20:31

A Mento taps names were all about

20:33

truth, law and order and maintaining

20:35

peace um. And one of his favorite

20:38

names for himself was Nimaia,

20:41

which meant dazzling sun disc.

20:44

That word literally meant that then,

20:46

right, Like it's not like now where oh my name

20:48

is Nimarea. It means dazzling sun

20:50

disc. Like that's your own language

20:53

at the time. That be like literally

20:55

naming yourself dazzling sun disc, right,

20:57

yeah, I think so. It's like Heather, like

21:00

heather means heather. Yeah, heather

21:03

is the flower. Yeah, it

21:05

means what it is. That's it, but

21:07

more but more elaborate than that. It'd be like if

21:09

your name was soft, fluffy, white heather,

21:12

and that was your like your full name, any

21:15

soft fluffy white heathers out there, shout

21:18

out. But yeah, I think that's funny.

21:21

I would love to go around and being like, hey,

21:23

I'm Dazzling sun Disc. It's great to meet

21:25

you. I feel like the closest we got

21:27

was like hippie names and they call them rainbow

21:30

Sunshine or whatever. That's like the closest

21:32

to Egyptian that we got with our names.

21:35

Dazzling sun disc is just cooler than

21:37

rainbow Sunshine. Sorry, right, I

21:39

don't know why. I mean, rainbow sunshine is

21:41

should be, should be you know, it's

21:43

just that toxic masculinity. I'm

21:46

just like rainbows and sunshine.

21:48

That's not cool. It's

21:50

not tough, that's lame. But

21:53

Dazzling sun disk is. Dazzling

21:55

sun disk is badassy. So yeah,

21:57

it's dazzling. Yeah. It disc

22:00

disc, which could be a weapon. Discs are

22:02

the coolest, the manliest shape.

22:04

Oh is that true? Oh yeah,

22:07

I would have thought this tent pole or whatever. No,

22:09

no, no, a disc like a like

22:11

like a c D or like a

22:13

discus or like a

22:16

cookie. You heard it here first. Amenitep's

22:20

devotion to t A is pretty

22:23

obvious and everything that he left behind. There's

22:25

a historian, Lawrence M. Berman, and he said

22:28

that quote, no previous queen

22:30

ever figured. Excuse me,

22:32

surely he's a British Egyptologist,

22:35

Right, I don't know, but probably I'm

22:37

gonna I'm gonna guess, and

22:40

he can write in and correct us. Historian

22:42

Lawrence M. Berman said, quote, new

22:45

previous queen ever figured so prominently

22:48

in her husband's lifetime. She's

22:50

regularly featured on statuary,

22:53

tomb and temple reliefs. He

22:55

put her name on everything that his

22:57

name was on, which is like crazy,

23:00

unheard of. Because women

23:03

had to rely on men to record

23:05

their lives, they didn't have any power

23:07

over what was written down, what was put

23:10

into the record, what was kept in the record,

23:12

because people would erase speaking of

23:14

Ella Gablus. We talked about this in that episode,

23:16

where as a punishment, sometimes

23:18

they'd be like, we're erasing you from history.

23:20

We're just not going to write about you, and we're going to erase

23:23

everything we previously wrote about you. And

23:25

that happened in ancient Egypt

23:27

as well. And then what that's it. There's

23:29

no Library of Congress, there's no tweets left

23:31

over, there's nobody telling your story. Well that's

23:34

why. So that's why all these Gyptologists

23:36

are like, well, maybe this and maybe that.

23:38

Our best guess is that. Yeah.

23:41

So so it was pretty cool that he put

23:43

her name on on ship. He wanted people

23:45

to know about her. And in

23:47

statues in his mortuary temple, the

23:50

Royal Couple, the two of them are depicted

23:53

on an equal scale. Each figure

23:55

is the same size, and according

23:57

to Egyptian artistic convention, this

23:59

meant that they were equally important, because this was also

24:01

very unheard of. Usually the pharaoh

24:04

and his wife, she'd be depicted much smaller

24:06

than him, and so it was really striking,

24:08

very different that the two of them

24:10

were seen as the same size. That meant

24:13

something. There's a private tomb

24:15

scene in his tomb where she's

24:17

depicted as a sphinx trampling enemies,

24:20

and this caught people's eye because usually only

24:23

kings were depicted as sphinxes, first

24:25

of all, and then also trampling enemies

24:28

was a task more associated with men and

24:30

with kings, not queens.

24:33

So this is kind of a hint about how important

24:35

she was politically. It wasn't just that a minotep

24:38

was obsessed with her and like wanted to have

24:40

her picture everywhere. It

24:42

was like the kingdom was like she

24:44

was handling some business. All

24:47

this was meant to show that t A was a Menoteps

24:50

divine as well as earthly

24:52

partner. They were gonna

24:55

ascend into the heavens together. And

24:57

it wasn't just about their bodies here on earth.

25:00

They were both godlike. They

25:02

were living embodiments of gods on earth.

25:04

She wasn't just some earthly hussey

25:06

he picked up while he in his human

25:09

form. And get this, he

25:11

even had a lake constructed

25:13

in her honor in the eleventh year of

25:15

his reign that was two miles long, and

25:18

they sailed its length in a royal barge

25:20

so that everyone could see them sailing on this leg.

25:23

Look at my wife's lake I made. I

25:25

made? Who do you think made the lake? Wondering

25:29

who dug? That seems like a lot of you

25:32

know what, it's got to be, uh

25:35

interns, Right, that's

25:38

just about to say I think it was probably some unpaid

25:40

interns. Unpaid interns, yeah, um,

25:43

but possibly they were well paid workers.

25:47

Sorry, I'm sorry, sorry,

25:49

Yeah, I don't know. I don't

25:52

know why I choked on that. Another

25:55

mighty civilization built on the back of unpaid

25:58

interns. Oh

26:00

my god. Yep.

26:03

A few years later he had a second

26:06

lake built for her, probably by the same

26:08

interns, because you know how hard it is to

26:10

get hired around here. Whoever made it through

26:12

the program? Yeah, it's a program.

26:16

Do you guys have job placement? Oh yeah, we got

26:18

job placement? Where

26:20

can I get placed? Right where you are?

26:23

Placed your hands on this shovel, Start

26:26

digging, buddy. So yeah.

26:29

So she's got these two lakes and the profits

26:31

from the farmlands around the lakes where

26:33

hers to spend a She wished that she had an

26:35

independent income, her own

26:37

source of money and everything. So she was very

26:40

independent wise. She's

26:42

very intelligent, strong

26:45

and fierce. She was able to

26:47

gain the respect of foreign dignitaries

26:49

who were willing to deal with her directly.

26:52

When they came to talk to the pharaoh about

26:54

business, they were willing to talk to t instead.

26:56

Damn. So they show up and they're like, I'm

26:58

here to do some business with the pharaoh,

27:01

and somebody says like, well he's

27:03

um, he's actually busy right now. Uh,

27:06

you're not gonna like this, but all I've got available

27:09

is some is like main wife, the

27:12

queen like two years here, amazing,

27:14

Oh my god, excuse

27:16

I'm going to need a minute kind of brush up all the bit straight

27:19

my shirt here, straight my tunic. Go get

27:21

some frank instance from the car. Yeah.

27:24

So she was really active in foreign relations throughout

27:26

her life. Um and speculation,

27:29

speculation station. I think

27:31

this is another reason they think maybe she was her

27:33

parents were foreign born, like, like she

27:36

had some ties to

27:38

foreign lands, so she was interested

27:40

in like what was going on over there and how

27:43

they were reacting with Egypt and stuff. That's

27:45

part of it. But got you, I

27:47

don't know for sure. She was also the

27:49

first Egyptian queen to

27:52

have her name recorded on

27:54

official acts. She

27:56

signed the bills, she said,

27:59

and so saith I

28:03

Queen Tia that from

28:05

now on, unpaid

28:08

interns, you're gonna have to work a little

28:10

harder around here. You

28:14

know. We don't have any evidence that she was a progressive

28:16

leader. Oh no, none at all, None

28:19

at all. She's she'd

28:21

write, um, yeah, she wrote a bill

28:23

that said I think it's I've got it right here,

28:26

Okay, yeah, read it to me. It goes crow

28:29

clay pot, feel a weeed clay

28:32

pot. Clay pot there's a cat. There's

28:35

what else, a feather and a couple of snakes.

28:38

Feather. Yeah, there's a staff, and

28:40

then another clay pot, clay

28:42

pot, and then its en up

28:44

above that it says nobody colon

28:47

me colin hiry

28:50

glimpse. Yeah,

28:52

and that was a very seminal bill. Oh yeah,

28:54

I don't need to tell you guys. Ye, that was the amazing.

28:57

Yeah, that changed to change in Egypt forever. Lordy.

29:02

He even had a temple built for her where she was

29:05

worshiped in the form of the goddess Hathor,

29:07

again representing that she was part goddess

29:10

now not just some regular old lady. And

29:12

she even adopted Hathor's horn and

29:15

disk as part of her own regalia. So

29:18

she Yeah, they were walking around like we

29:20

are part gods. Hot

29:22

shit, hot shit. Now like

29:24

most pharaohs, it's not like, I

29:27

mean, what do you expect the guy to do? Only

29:29

have one wife? No, he

29:31

had a harem pretty

29:34

large. Um.

29:36

He married a couple of daughters of the king of Babylon,

29:39

you know, a daughter or two of tosh

29:41

Rada, the king of Matani in northern

29:43

Syria. You know, he had some wives,

29:46

couple others. Yeah, kicking around

29:48

and that was pretty standard. You

29:51

know, again, he's a pharaoh. He's got a

29:53

lot to do, and he's got like fifty years to live, so

29:56

you gotta you gotta get it in when you can, and

29:59

you want your you want,

30:03

because otherwise you your

30:05

family tree had to have some branches somewhere,

30:09

so he did that. But for a

30:11

minute, Tep, his favorite was definitely

30:14

ta She held

30:16

the title of great Royal life,

30:18

while the others were just the king's

30:21

wife, pishposh. Just

30:24

that well, that's still i mean

30:26

among regular workaday Egyptians,

30:29

you know, that's still pretty wow. Great

30:32

royal was like oh ship. Yeah.

30:35

They had six children together, including

30:38

the next pharaoh, a Menotep, the fourth.

30:40

He changed his name to akinat In, and

30:43

that would not be the last thing that he would change.

30:45

But we will give him and his queen

30:47

Nefertiti their own episode.

30:50

And one of their daughters, one

30:52

of a Meno Tep and t A's daughters,

30:55

was Taman and she was elevated

30:57

to Great Royal wife around your thirty

31:00

of the Minoteps reign, so she

31:02

was the daughter of the pharaoh and

31:04

then upgraded too

31:07

Great Royal wife of

31:10

her dad. Pharaohs

31:12

married their daughters, and they married their sisters.

31:17

Cultural differences, um, they

31:19

span across time

31:21

and culture. One

31:26

man's wife is another

31:28

man's daughter. I guess. I don't know. One

31:31

man's wife is his own daughter. I yeah.

31:35

Look, it was a long time ago, and it

31:37

was a common thing for pharaoh's to do. The

31:39

god o Cyrius married his sister

31:41

Isis and they had the first pharaoh

31:44

together. So it was kind of like ordained

31:48

that they should marry their sisters

31:50

or daughters in order to keep the bloodline pure.

31:54

And commoners were kind

31:56

of like okay, because they were

31:58

supposed to be God's and people, so

32:00

it was like, well that makes sense. I mean, oh,

32:03

gods can do it. Yeah, they did

32:05

not do it. It was not a common thing amongst

32:08

regular old Egyptian people and merchants

32:10

and stuff. They did not marry their

32:12

family members and found it to be not a

32:14

cool thing at all. But they were like, pharaohs

32:17

can do It's fine. Sure, who was the first

32:19

GROSSI who was like, oh no, it's

32:22

okay. The o Cirius

32:24

did it. You know, They're like, who's the Cirrus.

32:26

He's like, oh, he's a he's a god, you

32:29

would you know, it's still complex for

32:31

a simple mind like your understand. But

32:34

it's totally divine that

32:36

I'm marrying my daughter basically,

32:38

is what I'm saying here. It actually

32:40

gets weirder if I can tell you the

32:43

story is that Cyrus

32:45

died and Isis brought

32:47

him back to life just long enough

32:50

to conceive the first

32:52

Pharaoh. Oh

32:55

well, you know, gods they

32:57

had their own rules. But

33:00

interestingly, regular Egyptians

33:02

would call their wife or husband sister

33:04

or brother as a term of endearment. And

33:08

know, I was like, that would not work, Like

33:11

I'm sorry, but if you walked in and you were like,

33:15

I like, no,

33:18

absolutely not. Um. Apparently it

33:20

was just to clear it up if anyone's wondering,

33:22

because I did, like, what why is that a

33:25

good thing? But apparently it was meant

33:27

to represent an egalitarian bond,

33:30

Like it wasn't just husband

33:32

and wife anymore. They were like on

33:35

the same level as each other. They had equal

33:37

power in the relationships sort of, and they

33:39

were uh, it's like

33:42

a blood bond at this point, rather than just

33:44

a marriage bond. The other reason

33:46

why a pharaoh would marry his sister

33:49

or his daughter was because royal

33:52

daughters and princesses were not

33:54

allowed to marry foreign princes

33:56

because Egyptians felt

33:59

that the other nations would like try to start some

34:01

ship in their name kind of

34:03

thing which has happened. Oh yeah,

34:06

um, but yeah, So they weren't allowed to

34:09

marry any foreign princes, but they also could

34:11

not marry beneath their class. So

34:13

who there's no one else to marry basically

34:16

but your father or your brother. Limited

34:18

window there for a princess.

34:21

Another example reminds me of like Suleman

34:23

and the princes, where it's you know, you

34:26

were born into the best circumstances

34:28

anyone could be born into. You're part of the royal

34:31

family, and also

34:33

that sucks for you, like you are

34:35

kind of also you've probably

34:37

you've got a nice place to live and you never want

34:40

for you know, food and ship like that. But the

34:42

restrictions made

34:44

things pretty dang rough, right.

34:47

You kind of got treated like ship because of these

34:49

like you know, dodgy old rules.

34:52

Ended up getting screwed by

34:54

your brother. So

34:58

the pharaohs are marrying daughters

35:00

of other kings of other nations for

35:03

the classic political reason that it would

35:05

create friendly diplomatic relations between

35:07

the two countries, but they would

35:09

never reciprocate in the same way. They

35:11

were like, I keep my daughters and if they don't

35:13

marry me, they don't marry anybody, or they're going

35:15

to marry my son. That's it's

35:19

so weird, um,

35:21

But I guess it worked for a while. Egypt

35:24

lasted a long time, and he

35:26

elevated one other of his daughters to great

35:28

royal wife as well near the end of his reign.

35:31

So I believe he had four daughters and he married

35:33

two of them. At some point. He had

35:35

commemorative stone scarabs distributed

35:38

to everyone in the empire extolling

35:40

all of his accomplishments. So it was like the

35:42

presidential plate of his

35:45

day. Uh, you know everybody, well,

35:47

except that everybody got one for free. You

35:50

had to have one, and it listed all his accomplishments

35:52

or or various accomplishments on them.

35:54

A hundred and twenty three of these scarabs

35:56

have been found that talk about how

35:59

in the past ten years Menitep

36:02

has killed a hundred and ten lions

36:04

with his own arrows. I

36:08

wonder if environmentalist Egyptians

36:10

of the day were like, that's terrible.

36:13

The lion population has been dwindling,

36:16

and we are driving them to extinction

36:19

with this kind of behavior, and now he's

36:21

celebrating it by posting his wouldn't

36:24

scaubs all over town? Yeah,

36:26

there's a cuneiform somewhere. They're

36:29

tapping it out. And then they were like, I'm

36:31

tired. That's what we should do. If you want to

36:33

tweet, you should have to damn scroll it out

36:36

in a stone. You better bean that ship.

36:40

It says nobody colon me

36:44

colon, not a pharaoh killing off

36:46

all these lions again. Yeah,

36:48

I just thought it was funny because it'd be like if a president

36:51

was like, hey, I've made four holes

36:53

in one the other day, I don't want to tell everyone

36:55

about it, like it's such a weird thing

36:58

to do. But I guess it was. You

37:01

know, it was like a newspaper of the day, like you were

37:03

just kind of telling everybody what you've been up to. I

37:05

guess. And several

37:07

more of these stone scarabs talk

37:10

about the foreign princess Guilkupta

37:13

that he will soon marry, and apparently

37:16

she arrived at her new home with

37:18

an entourage of three hundred

37:20

and seventeen women. Yeah.

37:23

I was kind of like, man who brings that

37:25

many roommates with them.

37:29

Deep. Yeah, I brought my entire sorority

37:31

with me if he don't mind. So

37:34

I'll need my own like wing. You

37:37

know what, We'll just we'll just build a wing for you

37:40

real quick. Let me get some Can I get someone paid

37:42

and turns over here please? Okay,

37:44

this feels like a good place for us to take a break.

37:48

All right, welcome back to the show. The next

37:51

big event in amenoteps

37:53

reign is in year thirty

37:56

because after thirty years of rule,

37:58

a pharaoh in Egypt had to have a said

38:01

festival. And this is like a religious

38:03

jubilee. It's basically why celebrating

38:06

that he's made it to thirty years,

38:08

because that's unusual in

38:10

ancient times. It's kind

38:13

of meant to rejuvenate the pharaoh.

38:15

Um. He recommits to all the

38:18

gods with like processions and offerings

38:20

and sacrifices and all the temples and everything,

38:24

um and uh. And he was kind

38:26

of also announcing his

38:29

rise to full divinity, from

38:31

being a near god to now like

38:33

a full god. And then after

38:36

thirty years, you would have won every three to

38:38

five years, so you had

38:40

to wait a long time for your first one, but then you had them

38:42

pretty regularly. I like that. They're like, holy

38:44

shit, he you stayed

38:47

alive for thirty years. That

38:49

is unheard of. That is so insane

38:51

that nobody has stabbed you in

38:53

the back yet and your work, you

38:56

know, dragged off and murdered in war

38:58

or like a scarab didn't you know, crawled

39:01

into your skin and burrow its way into your brain, which

39:04

is from my studying of the mummy,

39:06

is very common, very common way

39:08

to go. And uh, you

39:10

know, and then after that, like every three

39:13

years, they're like, damn, still you're

39:15

still here, Let's have another party. Ship.

39:18

Yeah. Well, Amenotep

39:21

had three, said festivals, which was quite

39:23

a few. Of course, again Ramsey's

39:26

holds the record for we

39:29

get it, Ramsey's you're the

39:31

like homecoming king of Egypt. But

39:35

a meno Tep had three. Uh, pretty

39:37

good, and he wanted them to be spectacular.

39:41

This has the Olympics of their time. I guess

39:43

they had to spend a bunch of money and build

39:45

a bunch of ships. Uh. He had a

39:48

lot of temples and statues built up

39:50

and down the banks of the Nile, a

39:52

lot of really cool intricate

39:54

ornaments and jewelry was created

39:56

for the occasion. Um, I'm pretty

39:58

sure this is when he had this second lake built

40:01

for t A and they used it in the festival.

40:04

He would change his costume at every

40:06

major activity, so general

40:08

cash money behavior going on

40:10

here. He was throwing money around. He's

40:13

changing clothes a bunch. She's dressed

40:15

to impress. Uh. Yeah,

40:17

they got the artisans at work. Everyone's

40:20

into it. He had to go to the temples

40:22

of the gods and knock on the doors

40:24

with a mace and then enter, followed

40:27

by Queen Tier and his other wives. It was like a

40:29

ritual thing. Probably

40:31

leave something there. I imagine some

40:33

offering, some something. Thank

40:35

you for thirty great years. More

40:39

take my unpaid intern, I

40:42

leave for you. One major

40:44

highlight was his coronation. Right

40:47

in Upper Egypt, he wore a white

40:49

crown, and in Lower Egypt he

40:51

switched to red. This was, you know, in honor

40:54

of their leaders down there. They

40:56

would wear red crowns. So

40:58

it's sort of like, uh, you know,

41:00

like president comes down South

41:02

and puts on a cowboy hat, or

41:05

you know, he goes to the Northwest

41:08

and he wears tight eye you know, sort

41:10

of acknowledging the

41:14

regional culture. It's like a bucket

41:16

hat and at the Pike Place Market. Yeah,

41:19

like a kangle hat on English Avenue exactly.

41:22

It said that this festival lasted

41:25

between six and eight months.

41:28

It's pretty bombass party. Yeah.

41:30

What the longest party we had was like four

41:33

four months. Nobody

41:36

came, it's just us,

41:38

but it was a party. Yeah, it's always

41:40

a party around here. After this, a

41:43

Minotep went from being a near god

41:45

to being one divine, which

41:48

meant that he had transcended you

41:50

know, his sort of like demigod status

41:52

and was just straight up divinity at this point.

41:56

But even though he was a god,

41:58

he still got sick, what I

42:01

guess, because his human his poor

42:03

human, weakly human body, you know,

42:05

those only last so long, right, right,

42:07

right, and so his started breakdown near the

42:09

end of his life. Historians

42:11

think he may have suffered from arthritis and that

42:13

he had painful abscesses and his teeth

42:15

he had very worn, like cavity ridden teeth,

42:18

dental issues back in the day. I mean, they're so upsetting

42:21

now that it's like to think about back in the day

42:23

when they didn't even know what to do about it. No

42:25

childand all or nothing. So

42:29

yeah, they they think that he

42:31

was suffering a lot the last few years of his

42:33

life. And it has been suggested that Tea was

42:35

actually running things for a little

42:37

while before his death. So maybe

42:39

like a little bit of a Nancy Reagan situation

42:42

where he was still out there waving,

42:44

but she was the one making

42:46

these decisions. Maybe that's when she started

42:48

signing bills and stuff. Yeah,

42:51

someone's like, oh no, this scared

42:54

clay pot staff doesn't look

42:56

like the pharaoh's usual scared

43:00

pot staffed. This looks like Quintia's

43:02

handwriting. He

43:05

died probably around fifty years

43:08

old, but a sturdy rule

43:10

of sturdy fifty years of life. Certainly,

43:13

I would say he got in more in his fifty

43:15

years than most of us get into eighty

43:17

or ninety. Very true. I mean, he traveled that empire,

43:20

he had a bunch of coronations.

43:22

He went from being a near god to being a full god.

43:24

I mean, who can say that. A few dozen wives,

43:28

some of them is daughters, several children,

43:30

and some of whom be married, several

43:32

wives, several children, and then several lives

43:34

again, cycle

43:37

disgusting cycle ya

43:41

um, and t A outlived him by

43:43

probably twelve years and she continued

43:45

to advise their son Act after

43:47

he became pharaoh. His letters to to Shrada,

43:50

the king of Menradi, speak very highly

43:52

of Ta's influence. She even

43:54

corresponded directly with to Shrada, who

43:56

expressed hope that their friendly relations

43:59

would continue under acts

44:01

rule. Yeah Ocanatin is known

44:03

as the pharaoh who wanted to go from worshiping

44:06

multiple gods, which Egypt

44:08

was very comfortable with and used

44:10

to obviously after many years

44:12

of doing it generations um

44:15

he wanted to focus on one god, his favorite

44:18

god Aten, So he moved

44:20

the capital from Thebes to Amarana

44:22

because he just wanted to take them away from Amun

44:26

was the main god, and they wanted He just

44:28

was like, get away from that temple. Everyone's

44:30

focusing too much on this god. Look at my god

44:32

instead. Uh And

44:35

she had a house in Amarana with

44:37

him, so that's they're like, oh, she went with

44:39

him. She was still involved

44:42

with his his life and his rule

44:44

and everything, so she was probably still advising him

44:46

at this point. She's also depicted as having

44:48

dinner with him and Nefertiti and

44:51

uh Ocanatin ended up keeping her

44:53

quite close for a long time, and then

44:55

she's mentioned for the last time in the year thirty

44:58

eight BC, so that's probably

45:00

around when she died or shortly after. At

45:03

that time she would have been over sixty years old.

45:06

Pretty good. Yeah, that's good. Yeah,

45:09

I would like to enter speculation stage,

45:12

not that this whole thing isn't the reculation stage.

45:14

I kind of but um, I kind

45:16

of wondered because Acton is

45:19

you know, his queen Nefertiti is really well

45:21

known. Everybody has heard of her. She's incredibly

45:23

famous Egyptian queen um

45:26

and apparently there's not a lot of details known about

45:28

her for real, but of course there's a bunch of statues

45:30

and we're really familiar with her. So

45:33

he really elevated his queen in a

45:35

way that was unusual. Um.

45:37

And I kind of wondered if you know that was

45:39

because of a meno tap and ta, if he was like

45:41

I want what my dad had, or he just

45:44

was used to At this point the dad

45:46

had recorded the queen so

45:48

much that he was like, oh, that's what you do with your

45:50

favorite wife. You put her name

45:52

on ship and you make sure people remember

45:55

her. Yeah. The great Royal life is an important

45:57

position and a bomb mass woman. Yeah,

46:00

and I think so, because I think that Pharaoh's

46:02

wives just had a lot more influence

46:05

after t a not just running

46:07

the palace and ship, but like actually

46:10

entering an opinion about how things should be.

46:12

Yeah, which is what I think makes this such a you

46:14

know, a story that we decided to go with because

46:17

this wasn't your average King

46:19

and Queen of of England.

46:22

This is definitely not an average of queen and King

46:24

of English. Considerably notably

46:27

different than the standard King and Queen of England.

46:29

This was not your average

46:32

King and Queen of Egypt. Uh.

46:34

These two really stood out and changed things,

46:37

you know, seemingly for for

46:39

quite a while afterwards, and and you know, again,

46:42

as usual, we could spend

46:44

our whole night in speculation station

46:46

and go back through time

46:49

and check our butterflies and see,

46:51

you know, if we stepped on one, how different would

46:53

everything be. But we can assume that

46:56

Egypt might have continued to develop very

46:58

differently. How to not been for the relationship

47:01

that these two had, definitely impossible, and we might

47:03

be living in a completely different world

47:05

today where we're all covered

47:07

in dirt and eating snails out of the

47:09

ground. Because you know, it's

47:12

just if it hadn't been for the

47:14

two of them, Uh, everything would have gone

47:16

to complete ship damn snails

47:18

out of the Look. I'm just saying, Quintier

47:21

was pretty cool and I like to think she changed

47:23

things for the better. Well I like to think

47:25

that too, except obviously slavery,

47:28

because clearly they benefited from that for

47:30

a long time. So you know,

47:33

as with any look back in history,

47:36

uh, you take the good with the bad, and

47:38

you as long as you harshly condemned

47:40

the bad, learn from it and don't do

47:42

it again. Stop it the

47:45

best we can do when we look back at these stories.

47:47

Has anyone thought about stopping

47:49

it? Just a thought?

47:52

Don't have sleeves? How about that? Just

47:54

again, just saying, just floating

47:56

the suggestion. I'll tell you this, every

47:58

time people have stopped having slaves,

48:02

turned out fine, worked out, It worked out,

48:04

It worked you know, people still made money

48:06

to more importantly, because that's always the argument.

48:09

Economically, you can now everyone

48:13

still makes money. So shut up. How

48:15

could I possibly afford to pay all

48:18

these workers to build these enormous pyramids.

48:21

I'm going to have them do it for free. Okay, time

48:23

to go sit my solid gold room where

48:25

the walls floors, ceiling, and furniture

48:27

are all made out of pure gold

48:29

and eat everything I've ever wanted

48:32

shipped in from across the globe. I

48:34

think any of the unpaid interns were like, yeah, maybe

48:36

if you didn't bury all the treasure with you in a

48:38

tomb, we could fucking redistribute

48:40

it. Man. Yeah,

48:43

I don't think they were permitted to take

48:46

base. Can I have one vase? Feed

48:50

my family for two months? With a vase? Two

48:52

generations people could eat on this

48:54

vase. You're not supposed to have a family. It

48:59

takes you away from work. Yeah,

49:01

you got to make more family. Oh hey,

49:04

they should join our internship program. Bring

49:06

them with you next time. We've got great job placement.

49:09

Bring your family to work. You're

49:12

bring your family to work lifetimes.

49:17

So yeah, so so again, what

49:19

do we know of these two? Pretty much everything we just gave

49:22

you. That's about all there is known. But an

49:24

important story, an important couple. If

49:28

you're the type who wants to go

49:31

through all of the various broken

49:33

pottery and statues that they're

49:35

looking at to determine all these things, please

49:38

feel free. It's not my

49:40

bag. I'll say that I like history

49:42

a lot, but I was like I cannot read about another

49:44

cartouche partially destroyed that

49:47

may or may not have someone's name on it. Like, it's

49:50

just the other issue I think with when you get into

49:52

egyptology, especially about any sort of ancient

49:54

culture, you know, where history

49:57

has only begun to be written down in

50:00

languages that are long since gone.

50:03

You know. Again, we just get kind of the

50:05

pieces that made it. Uh.

50:07

You know, somebody might have written Queintia's

50:10

entire story and then like six

50:12

months later, somebody spilled their coffee on it,

50:15

and that's it's gone forever. Now, that's it.

50:17

Now, no one's ever going to hear of Queen Tier again,

50:19

you know. So we get what

50:22

was left over in brilliant minds

50:24

who've spent a long tedious

50:27

dill. It ain't Indiana Jones, Okay,

50:29

No, it is a tedious process

50:32

deciphering all these symbols, translating

50:34

these languages. You know, putting these puzzle

50:37

pieces together sounds awesome. If I

50:39

had devoted you know, much of my life to anything

50:41

else that that's probably top seven

50:44

somewhere in there would have been like archaeology, because

50:46

I you know, I love puzzles, um,

50:49

but it takes a lot of focus

50:52

and what we what The

50:54

scraps that we have are incredible. But

50:56

right right, I was gonna say, I mean, you

50:58

know, you pointed out how long

51:01

ago this was. I mean,

51:03

thousands of years have gone

51:05

by, so it's amazing that we have

51:07

any information about them,

51:10

to be honest, there was one detail

51:12

I thought was funny where they found

51:14

evidence that he got gifts

51:17

during the said festival from

51:19

like not only noblemen, but

51:21

also like smaller merchants and stuff.

51:24

And they found it out because of a trash

51:26

pile outside of one of the palaces

51:28

that had all these jars in it that

51:31

had all these different people's names on it. And

51:33

I was like, that is so funny to think about

51:36

the trash being full of what is to us,

51:39

I mean, priceless ancient artifacts,

51:41

you know what I mean, And like just picturing

51:43

some guy being like, oh it's from Arnold

51:46

like and throwing it and just tossing it

51:48

in the garbage like that's insane. So

51:50

I mean, you know, yeah, four thousand

51:53

years from now, they find a pile of like wrapping

51:55

paper and uh,

51:57

you know, all blue rays and

52:00

they're like, oh my god, this was a great king's

52:03

birthday party.

52:06

That's also what I was thinking, was opening

52:09

the jars and pulling the presents out

52:11

and someone going in the bag. Now, put it in the bag,

52:14

leave it on the floor. I'm stick of picking this shut up.

52:16

I'll put it in the bag, but

52:20

it's a clay jar. Put

52:24

it in this larger clay jar. I'm

52:26

going to take it out back. Then it'll be

52:28

clean around here. So

52:31

yeah, thousands of years of time

52:33

have gone by, have smashed up a lot

52:35

of this ship. But I'm very glad

52:37

that we have some evidence of a

52:40

and a Minotep the third. Happy to share

52:42

that story with you all, Um, I hope

52:44

you enjoyed it. We love

52:46

digging into ancient Egypt. You know, we'll

52:48

definitely do it again. Several ancient paras

52:51

and queens. As we say, these two the

52:54

kids of these guys were and

52:56

Ramsey's as

52:58

you say, I mean ramped,

53:00

Like I'm not even sure if we can get the rights to ramsey

53:02

story. Like this guy

53:05

is, he's a lot, he's

53:07

a lot. We're gonna we're gonna get into that. So

53:10

yeah, please, uh, if you're

53:12

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53:15

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53:17

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53:20

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53:22

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