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But. It'll soon be hell people say. Well, how

1:23

can you stand the. So. Us

1:25

Air Conditioning for you Americans,

1:27

car that air conditioner House

1:29

and Co. I

1:32

like it is not there but Hawaii's humid.

1:35

And. Arizona is just hot. But.

1:37

It was humid. I get tired so

1:40

that's why I'm other Doesn't bother me

1:42

too much. Today we're very important Show

1:44

it's it's about Bitcoin. Gold.

1:47

And silver. But. More

1:49

than that, those were gonna go

1:51

a macro macro as to what's

1:53

going on today. Please call Columbia

1:55

University in a all across the

1:57

world with. you know that hamas

2:01

anti-Semitic rhetoric and anti-Israeli and

2:03

all this stuff. And

2:07

as some of you know, I fought for

2:09

the United States, US

2:11

Marine, I went to Vietnam twice

2:14

to fight for our freedom. And

2:16

today I have, we're in

2:19

chaos. And so in 1965,

2:21

when I went to school, I

2:23

left Hawaii and went all the way to school in New

2:25

York, Columbia University was

2:27

right down the street and that's where

2:29

the rioting started. So then I, in

2:31

1965, my economics teacher had our class

2:33

read this book here. And I suggest

2:36

everybody should read it. Because

2:38

when I read Communist Manifesto, I

2:41

realized my family, one of

2:43

them are Marxist. Now that not

2:45

bad people, it's like somebody, some people are

2:47

Christians, some people are Buddhists, some people are

2:50

Jewish. Economics is kind of

2:52

a money or a religion, that's

2:54

all it is. So

2:57

in Marxism, they believe in taxation,

2:59

which I don't like and

3:01

all the other things they go into.

3:04

But the thing that happened at Columbia

3:06

University was stage, he talks about communism

3:09

would take over America in two stages.

3:12

And stage one occurred in 1930, when

3:16

Columbia University where all the fuffles

3:19

going on today as we speak in

3:21

2024, they invited Marxist teachers from

3:25

Germany to teach at Columbia

3:27

University's college, teachers college.

3:30

And in 1966, 67, 68, is when all those rioting blew

3:35

up in Columbia. And

3:37

it's repeating again today,

3:39

history proves we

3:41

don't learn anything. So

3:43

we're blowing up anti-Semitic, anti-Palestine,

3:45

Hamas, this, I don't, you

3:48

know, and it's

3:50

getting worse. So my special guest

3:52

today, we will get to crypto,

3:55

Bitcoin, gold, silver, but I

3:57

think we need to take a macro look at what's

3:59

going on before. before we go further. This is my

4:01

friend Andy Scheckman. Full disclosure,

4:03

I'm a client of his. I buy

4:05

from him, I trust him. I

4:07

like people who educate when they sell, because

4:11

I call him. I call for the education

4:13

more than the gold or silver. And

4:16

his company is Miles Franklin, one

4:18

of the best companies in gold and silver. But

4:21

also Andy is Jewish. And my

4:23

friend Blair Singer is Jewish. And

4:26

I don't know the difference. What is a Jew?

4:28

Is it a religion? Is it a race? Is

4:30

it this? And I never understood it. So

4:33

I thought I'd ask this, since we have

4:35

this Hamas stuff blowing up and Columbia

4:38

University back in the news, all this

4:40

rioting, I thought I'd ask Andy

4:42

to give his point of view. What

4:44

do you think is going on, Andy? I

4:48

find it to be crazy. Most

4:52

of the people that are protesting

4:57

would not be very welcomed by

4:59

Hamas, to

5:02

say the least. But coming from my

5:04

perspective, look, I mean, yeah, I

5:06

was born Jewish. I never even had a bar

5:08

mitzvah. I

5:12

started my company on a wing and a

5:14

prayer with a loan in a

5:16

one-room office the size of a closet. Nothing

5:19

was ever given to me. I never

5:21

came into this world entitled. I came

5:24

born into a religion that I know

5:26

very little about. Now I'm proud to

5:28

be Jewish, but

5:30

I can't read a lick of Hebrew

5:33

and don't understand the

5:35

religion other than the

5:38

very, very, very basic. Said, yet I would

5:40

be painted into a corner as

5:42

being part of the problem. I

5:45

never understood why a very,

5:47

very tiny, small percentage of human population,

5:49

but a speck of dust in relation

5:51

to the rest of the world. When

5:55

you look at the outsized level

5:58

of... of things

6:02

that they have contributed to the

6:04

world in art, in literature, in

6:07

medicine, in finance, all of these

6:09

things, they are so hated.

6:11

It bothers me an awful lot, but

6:14

it's a bigger deal. I mean, the lack

6:16

of unity in this country is

6:18

unbelievable. And I

6:20

think that what's happening at

6:22

Columbia and other universities is complete

6:25

and total disgrace, to

6:27

be honest with you. And one

6:30

of these deals where you feel, you'd

6:32

wonder why is there such hatred

6:37

just based on how

6:39

you came into this world? And

6:41

I don't know, it's, I think,

6:43

symbolic of a bigger problem in

6:45

this country, Robert, very much so.

6:47

My family being Japanese after Pearl

6:49

Harbor, not

6:51

in Hawaii, but my family, my

6:54

relatives who lived on the west coast

6:56

of America, California, they were

6:58

put in internment camps. So it's

7:00

the same as the Jews were. And

7:02

so my family being that they

7:04

were Americans, I'm fourth generation

7:07

Japanese American, my uncle

7:09

said, well, we're gonna fight for America

7:11

to prove that we're here to serve America.

7:15

So they formed the 442nd Infantry

7:17

Battalion. It was all Japanese. And

7:21

because they were in the concentration camps

7:23

in America, but I think

7:25

there was a, they ended, when

7:28

they got to Europe, they were liberating some

7:30

of the prisoner

7:32

of war camps for

7:34

the Jews. Well,

7:36

look at the difference there. Your

7:38

family assimilated and contributed to the

7:40

country where we have people in

7:43

Dearborn, Michigan saying, death to America

7:45

on American soil. And

7:47

yet they're focusing on Jews.

7:50

And it just

7:52

doesn't make sense to me. People,

7:54

I just are uneducated, I

7:56

guess is what you could say to that. Well, I think

7:59

it is taught by. your parents. I

8:01

suspect that. I had a friend who

8:03

was Muslim. Saleh, I

8:05

loved them to death, but man, I never

8:07

met a man who hated Jews so much.

8:09

I said, Saleh, do you know any of

8:11

them? He goes, no. So why do you hate them? I said, I

8:14

don't know, I just hate them. But I

8:16

think he was taught to him. He wouldn't admit that. It's

8:19

the same as people hate blacks. They're

8:21

taught it at home. So

8:23

that's my only easy 10-cent

8:27

psychological input to

8:29

that. So this goes into,

8:31

we're now at this Hamas,

8:34

Israel, we have Ukraine,

8:37

we have the Biden full operation. I

8:39

mean Trump is on trial

8:41

for doing what every real estate entrepreneur

8:44

does. They pad their financials. I'm gonna

8:46

give me a break. You

8:48

know, and they're gonna, so it's fascism right

8:50

now what they're doing to Trump. Do you know

8:52

what I mean? They're gonna, they're gonna use the court

8:54

system to put a good man in

8:56

jail and make sure he doesn't get elected. That's

8:59

fascism. And then Hunter

9:01

Biden, the FBI loses his

9:03

laptop. Oh my god, Andy.

9:06

You know, my Spanish friends would say,

9:08

Que Pasa, what's going on here? What

9:11

do you, what do you think? I mean, but

9:13

this, it's a reason to buy gold, silver, Bitcoin

9:16

and all this because our currency is screwed up

9:18

now. It's gonna get worse because our debt keeps

9:20

going up. Well,

9:22

and I, you know, all of that's true. I

9:24

mean, our debt is going up to the tune

9:26

of a trillion dollars every hundred days. It took

9:29

200 years to do it the first time. We

9:32

are adding debt at a level that is unsustainable.

9:34

We have nine trillion dollars in treasuries

9:36

that need to be rolled

9:39

over at higher interest rates this year alone. At a

9:41

time when the world is selling treasuries, China is down

9:44

to 700, just over 700 billion.

9:47

They were at three trillion not too long ago. Obviously

9:50

Iran and Russia and well they sold

9:53

all their treasuries. Saudi Arabia is lowering

9:55

their treasury amount. Japan is. So

9:57

as all of these countries are shedding treasuries,

10:01

who's buying them, including the Federal Reserve, the

10:03

number one holder of our debt, they're rolling

10:05

them off their balance sheets. So who's going

10:07

to finance the $10 or $11 trillion every

10:11

year for the next 10 that

10:13

we have obligations towards to roll

10:15

over at higher interest rates? Who's

10:17

going to finance this irresponsible spending

10:20

that we have? You mentioned the

10:22

Ukraine. We've given them $200 billion,

10:25

Robert, since February of 2022 with

10:27

no congressional oversight, $5

10:29

billion to build a wall to protect border

10:32

states like Arizona and Texas. Well, that's

10:35

just too much. And President

10:37

Trump should have been vilified for that, right?

10:39

And so we are

10:41

misplaced. We're borrowing money to

10:44

give to a country instead of

10:46

taking care of our own borders,

10:48

where the Senate, after voting for

10:50

this, is cheering and

10:52

waving Ukrainian

10:55

flags. And then at the same time,

10:57

you have our Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen,

10:59

two, three weeks ago in Brazil, in

11:03

Brazil, the B in bricks

11:05

saying, you know, sanctioning Russian 380

11:07

billion and Forex reserves, that's not enough.

11:10

We need to confiscate them. I believe

11:12

they vote on that tomorrow. I think

11:14

to confiscate them. They can't pull more

11:16

sanctions against Russia. Yes.

11:20

And they're going to not just sanction,

11:22

but confiscate their assets. And then you

11:25

had her just this week on Monday,

11:27

or maybe last week, the end of

11:29

the week, do an interview with CNBC

11:31

threatening China. If you aid Russia and

11:33

their military, and again, C

11:35

in bricks is China. And if you

11:38

aid them, you we have no problem

11:40

with you being friends. Thanks, Janet. That's

11:42

cool. But if you aid them in

11:44

any way towards their military efforts, we

11:46

will sanction your companies, your banks and

11:49

even Beijing. So it's okay for us to

11:51

give 200 billion to the Ukraine. But

11:53

if you do it, we're going to sanction

11:55

you. And now they're threatening to sanction Pakistan

11:57

for wanting to build.

12:00

a pipeline for oil between Pakistan

12:02

and Iran. These sanctions are what

12:04

is creating the resentment and

12:07

the view that we're very hypocritical around the world.

12:09

So let's get back to gold silver and Bitcoin

12:11

now. Would you mind telling us about Miles Franklin?

12:14

But one of the most important things is that

12:16

what your father taught you about what

12:18

your deal with your father was? The

12:21

best gift I've ever been given by far. I make

12:23

all my employees do it too and they all thank

12:25

me and I thank my dad. It was the best.

12:27

You know, I think of you all the time when

12:29

I think of this because in talking

12:33

to you all the time, you talk about

12:35

getting out of the rat race and that's

12:37

part of your game and that resonates with me

12:40

because how do you get out of the

12:42

rat race? There are ways to do it. You've

12:44

enumerated that many ways, many times. But

12:46

to me, the best way I've learned personally to

12:49

get out of the rat race is to pay

12:51

yourself first. My father told me

12:53

when I started the company that every two weeks

12:55

as a 19 year old kid, I'll buy something

12:57

metal when I get paid or he'll fire me

12:59

that he wouldn't let me make the same mistakes

13:02

that he had made. And I

13:04

thought, well, if that's the only rule, I

13:06

can deal with that. 34 years later, I

13:08

look at that as the greatest gift I've

13:10

ever been given. I've run the company myself

13:13

for over two decades. He won't fire

13:15

me anymore. But the promise, I've

13:17

honored and I buy something every two weeks and I don't

13:19

look at gold and silver as an investment. I look at

13:21

it as wealth. I think too, it's not

13:24

something you buy to get wealthy. It is

13:26

wealth. If you own enough, okay, you could

13:28

be considered wealthy, but it's wealth and

13:30

paying yourself first is how you get out of that. The

13:33

reason is because in 71 Nixon took the dollar off

13:35

the gold standard and the dollar became debt. And

13:37

now our debt exactly, they say every

13:40

100 days for 90 days, US is

13:42

increasing their debt by a trillion dollars. How

13:45

long, how, you have a say, how

13:47

big is a trillion dollars? You have,

13:49

you almost cite that. Yeah,

13:52

I'm Glad you said that, because, you know,

13:54

look, most of us in our lifetime can

13:56

make a million dollars working. You may not

13:59

save it. Which can make it. And.

14:01

There's lots of billionaires out there. And.

14:04

Ah, You

14:07

know, a trillion seconds? Go. Trillion doesn't

14:09

sound like that much because a million

14:11

and billion their obtainable. I guess I'm

14:13

a trillion. Sections Go was thirty One

14:15

thousand, Six hundred, eighty Eight years ago.

14:17

Numbers are so big Some fab was

14:19

as an adult a. Your.

14:21

D One thousand, six hundred and eighty

14:23

eight years ago, Neanderthal stocking the planes

14:25

of Europe is a trillion seconds ago.

14:28

And we're adding that every hundred days.

14:30

And we're adding a hundred billion in

14:33

interest payments roughly every hundred days as

14:35

wealth. The numbers at the hockey sticks

14:37

phase where they just they start to

14:40

go up parabolic lee and to return

14:42

from that becomes almost in our Ralph

14:44

Hello cause of the banana place it

14:46

goes parabolic up. There was. No

14:49

out, Tell us about Miles Franklin And full disclosure:

14:51

I'm a client of yours or by from. What?

14:55

I've were a precious metals company been doing

14:57

for thirty four years. We do have a

15:00

website where you can purchase, but the prices

15:02

are nowhere near as good. If you just

15:04

simply send us an email at In Four

15:06

Miles Franklin and say you heard heard Me

15:09

on the Rich Dad program will send you

15:11

a priceless that will be as good or

15:13

better than anywhere in America. Will answer any

15:16

questions that you've heard here on the show

15:18

or anything else that you have questions about.

15:20

No obligation. In full of miles, find some.com

15:22

if you just want the priceless that's great

15:25

or any questions. Or want to be contacted and.

15:27

I. We've done this for thirty four years.

15:29

almost at ten billion in sales. Never had

15:31

a customer complaints ever. We've made mistakes. But.

15:34

Not enough to warrant someone to put a

15:36

nasty complaints on somewhere. Ah, we make right

15:38

if we make the mistake, but dumb as

15:40

who we are and you know some. I

15:43

was talking to someone last night and this

15:45

is what? What is one of yours? You

15:47

know your secrets. A success. I said. You

15:49

know, sometimes. I. can't remember a

15:51

day and thirty four years where i

15:53

didn't wake up looking forward to seeing

15:55

what the world has brought an end

15:57

to doing this and it's something i've

16:00

And I think you've loved what you've

16:02

done forever. And maybe that's why you're

16:04

successful. I think having

16:06

a passion is something that's important. And this

16:08

is something that, you know,

16:10

regardless of, you know, speaking

16:13

online and getting pushback or whatever,

16:15

it's my labor of love. And

16:17

it's something that I enjoy and

16:19

feel I'm contributing even a little bit to society

16:21

by doing this and that's who we are. And

16:23

that's who I am. And then your

16:26

dad had you pay yourself first. I

16:29

first started buying silver in

16:31

1964 when I started

16:33

noticing the coins had copper around them.

16:36

And then I bought my first gold in 1972. I

16:40

bought, I flew behind enemy lines in Vietnam

16:42

to look for gold. And I

16:44

realized I didn't know what gold looked like. You know,

16:46

so I was a helicopter pilot. And

16:49

so I finally had to wait to go all the way

16:51

to Hong Kong. And I'm in

16:53

the streets of Hong Kong dealing with the Chinese as

16:56

you know, they're very smart people, very

16:58

smart people. And I

17:00

was getting an education in gold and

17:02

silver and what I call

17:04

real money, you know, gold and silver are

17:06

real money. And

17:08

so I bought my first Kruger van. I

17:11

had to pay $50 for an ounce.

17:16

You know what I mean? But a few weeks ago,

17:18

it was early, it was $35. And

17:21

I still have that Kruger van. I

17:23

don't store it here in America. It's

17:26

stored outside of Switzerland in another country.

17:29

And the reason for that, as you know, which

17:31

is that the poster over your right shoulder is,

17:34

you know, Roosevelt confiscated people's

17:37

gold. So it's being a

17:39

little paranoid. My gold

17:41

is not in America and it's in

17:43

storage faults outside of Switzerland some place.

17:46

So that's my story. And

17:49

I don't save dollars. That's why I put

17:51

savers or losers. And I

17:53

saved silver and I gold. And

17:55

just recently, About 10

17:57

years ago, I started buying Bitcoin. Oh

18:00

and. I look at the

18:02

whole thing that people want to argue. You

18:04

know I hear all the time on you

18:06

tube which is better Gold or Bitcoin or

18:09

sober Bitcoin. And I was laughing

18:11

as a guy that one or people argue was a

18:13

stupid things. You know, just how

18:15

many do you have? pets hot cup?

18:17

How many ounces of gold? I may

18:19

also summer how many bitcoin or so

18:21

lot or whatever you got, but they

18:23

oughta argue. Intubated and they don't have

18:25

anything that makes no sense to me.

18:28

Or. Wine and I

18:30

arrived. I rue the the I'm.

18:33

The. Debate. I mean, Last

18:35

time I saw you in person was in Vancouver

18:37

and I had lunch with our mutual friend Mark

18:39

Moss and and now we Brunel and they opened

18:41

my eyes in many respects. To

18:44

some of the things that have been

18:46

thinking about the in Bitcoin and. Before.

18:49

I'd take that any further. I'll just simply

18:51

say that it is always been going all

18:53

the way back to the to when Bitcoin

18:55

was four hundred dollars a coin. I had

18:57

a gentleman working for me, name and the

18:59

Hoffman who also opened my eyes into Bitcoin

19:01

and he wanted the. We. Together

19:03

wanted to build a bridge between

19:05

the bitcoin community and the physical

19:07

metals community, because after all, the

19:10

ideology in many respects is the

19:12

same: the push back against what's

19:14

happening in the country with the

19:16

monetary and fiscal policy, the decentralization

19:18

in other words, owning something that

19:20

you hold physically that is not

19:22

simultaneously someone elses liabilities and that

19:24

didn't work out so well at

19:26

the time for various reasons, not

19:28

because of. The i'll just

19:30

because differences of opinion but since suffice

19:32

it to say my my my thinking

19:35

is that we all. Come.

19:37

In the door for the same reason

19:39

and an M and maybe the difference

19:41

between the skins had a bitcoin a

19:43

man beat. Wants. Nothing about

19:45

our madness. The reason. We.

19:47

Buy gold, silver, and bitcoin, or

19:50

the same reason. That.

19:53

Not only difference is Jamie how

19:55

many how many ounces you have.

19:58

Yeah. Well that's. Point

20:00

and I think we should be

20:02

complementary to one another and instead

20:04

of adversarial and I think anyone's

20:06

portfolio. That is rich

20:09

in bitcoin would be stronger if

20:11

some of the prophets were put

20:13

into gold. your hedging your bets

20:15

And and I'll simply say this

20:17

that. I don't the legitimize

20:19

bitcoin at all. In fact, since I had

20:22

since I last saw you I've been buying

20:24

get along with gold and silver every two

20:26

weeks. And that's new

20:28

to me. Because. I don't want to

20:30

miss out on it, and I don't wanna

20:32

miss out on what could be a global

20:34

trend. But you know, it's never really been

20:36

my focus, but I'm open minded enough to

20:38

add little bits of it on a habitual

20:40

basis. But you're right. I mean, I think

20:42

that if you look at the central banks

20:44

to the world which are the most well

20:46

informed traders, forget about a wealth of the

20:48

are. Observed I'm buying gold at

20:50

eleven. The world is never seen before. So

20:52

there is legitimacy to taking some

20:54

of the profits in crypto currencies

20:57

of people made a fortune. And

20:59

and and and put that in do something

21:02

that stable and that the biggest money, Smartest

21:04

money, most well informed traders in the world

21:06

are buying. It. Doesn't have to

21:08

be. They don't have to be mutually exclusive one

21:10

another. I think your portfolio becomes a hell of

21:12

a lot stronger. As you been

21:15

recommending for years now having allocations

21:17

to all three. Of instead

21:19

of just only looking in a you know.

21:22

In one direction broaden your horizons. You probably

21:24

end up having a stronger poor flower say

21:26

as you don't have to make something wrong

21:28

to be right to is really stupid or

21:31

that's a sudden causes war. I'm

21:33

right, you're wrong and his ass

21:35

holes who are debating gold and

21:37

silver and bitcoin and salon all

21:39

as us the assessment A bunch

21:41

of hot air. And

21:44

odd that that's the point

21:46

is. We're. Where we and

21:48

will I buy gold silver bitcoin

21:50

as as but some. It. Syria.

21:52

I'm. Simply. For the

21:54

same reason, our money as fate.

21:57

Or. Because you get it, You

21:59

get it. And you see the bigger picture

22:01

and I think we're in the minority people. Let

22:03

me say this much. I think his

22:05

name is Michael Saylor. He's micro strategies and all

22:08

that. I mean he's putting billions into

22:10

Bitcoin. Billions. You know,

22:12

I got my 60 coins and he's got

22:14

billions. I'm going holy mackerel. And

22:18

but he says what do you call a

22:20

person who saves fiat currency or the US

22:22

dollar? Poor. And

22:26

that's what's happening today. People with

22:29

old ideas are

22:31

getting poorer and poorer and poorer because

22:33

as you know, my whole shtick is

22:35

what this school teacher bought money? Nothing.

22:37

So anyway, come back. We've been going

22:39

more into this and all this. But

22:41

I'm glad we start with the macro

22:44

and then any kind of racism is

22:46

more than a sin. It's

22:48

a crime. So anyway, we'll be right back.

22:53

Have you heard about the expanding

22:56

influence of BRICS, Brazil, Russia, India,

22:58

China and South Africa and its

23:00

potential to severely impact the US

23:02

dollar by possibly creating a new

23:05

world currency? Even JP

23:07

Morgan said and I'm paraphrasing the impact

23:09

of BRICS would most likely be felt

23:11

here in the US where

23:13

moving away from the dollar would cause

23:16

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23:18

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23:21

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Are you can call Eight Four

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Four Three Roberts said. Eight Four

24:16

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24:20

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24:22

like bundling your home and auto insurance

24:24

it all states or going to the

24:27

grocery store for milk instead of buying

24:29

on cow. Is

24:32

an easier and. Better with save us

24:34

a twenty five recent when he went

24:36

home and auto with last. Sonos.

24:39

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Affiliates notebook Illinois. Welcome

24:51

back Roberts your soccer, The rich that radio

24:53

show amid one thing as I don't make

24:55

a dump another financial planner don't make recommendations.

24:57

We should do This issue is that I'd

24:59

say what I do. And. Thus,

25:02

as far as it goes, you want to

25:04

do something, You do it. Gonna do it.

25:06

They'll blame it. While the reason I buy

25:08

from Miles Franklin is because I've so of

25:11

people I buy from while I go for

25:13

the information, Education so I

25:15

can call and the uncles I'm

25:18

gonna buy something and he'll always

25:20

add some bit of knowledge or

25:22

with some more history. That increases

25:24

my understanding of why I'm doing

25:27

what I'm doing. So.

25:29

We started with club or Universe Day

25:31

which is like I said there are

25:33

Teachers College and nineteen thirties by the

25:36

nazis and from Germany. To. Teach

25:38

the teachers and thus when communism spread

25:40

all across America was rak a dumb

25:42

act system and now we have rioting

25:45

anti semitic, anti Israeli in our with

25:47

loss or a whole focus of what

25:49

we do it for So and it

25:51

was telling me before went on the

25:54

air I would feel as a paper

25:56

called Cloward to fund or something that

25:58

explains what is happening. In at Columbia

26:00

and throughout the world right now. Yeah.

26:04

You know I'm before I mention what

26:06

the cloud given theory is in. I

26:08

talk a lot about a man. Him

26:10

Jared Bernstein and Jared Bernstein his lead

26:13

economic advisor. The United States government who

26:15

advocates for losing robbers er status in

26:17

is written reports on at the throne

26:19

king dollar cetera. And. You know,

26:21

by weaponizing the dollar and and telling Saudi

26:23

Arabia the linchpin of a Gemini hey, we're

26:25

going green. Would offset the

26:27

ball in motion. And I always have

26:29

said I've talked a lot about I've

26:32

talked about back with you are lots

26:34

and on your show but I've also

26:36

talked about the things that bother me

26:38

the most. about what's happening in this

26:40

country is the lawlessness, the open borders,

26:42

the the woke miss, the you know,

26:44

the the. Questioning. Of

26:46

the electoral system of the judicial system,

26:49

Mesbah bother me more than anything because.

26:52

You. Know if this country represented when

26:54

it was when you wanting to

26:56

fight for it. I

26:58

think we could. We, we were united. And

27:00

we could. We could stand up to problems.

27:02

We could fix this. We can. We get

27:04

away from it. But when people look at

27:07

what's happening in our country. all of the

27:09

things I just mentioned. I. Think they

27:11

wonder what the hell's going on in

27:13

this country now. Interestingly enough, Jared Bernstein.

27:16

To I believe is the architect of

27:18

the d dollarization plan to leave Economic

27:21

advisor the Us government Graduated. Along.

27:23

With Brock Obama from Columbia University, along

27:25

with Anthony Built in the current Secretary

27:27

States former Attorney General's Bill Barn, Eric

27:29

Holder and Madeleine Albright former Us Ambassador

27:31

to the Un and I want to

27:33

give a shoutout to our mutual friend

27:35

Mark Moss kind of turned me onto

27:37

this, opened my eyes to it. And

27:41

a blew me away because all of these

27:43

things that I've been lamenting. Over. The

27:45

past several months on. Gosh, Knows

27:47

how many podcasts I've done and talked

27:49

about it. there's a

27:51

flowered pippin strategies that i'm like oh

27:54

my god this is what they're doing

27:56

and it it's been a man named

27:58

richard cloud and friend Francis Fox Piven,

28:00

they were two professors who taught at

28:02

Columbia University, husband and wife. And

28:05

they taught us a theory

28:08

that outlined a plan to

28:10

socialize America by overwhelming

28:12

the systems with government spending and

28:14

entitlement programs. And

28:17

in essence, I'll just read a couple of the strategies. The

28:20

primary objective of the strategy is

28:22

to create chaos with the hopes

28:24

of destroying America's capitalist economy and

28:26

replacing it with a socialist system

28:28

that guarantee what then includes guaranteed

28:30

income, a massive drive to recruit

28:32

the poor onto the welfare rolls.

28:34

The point of surging welfare claims is to

28:36

enroll as many individuals as it takes to

28:39

send the United States into an economic crisis.

28:41

Now, think of the 12 million people we

28:43

just entered into this country illegally. 63%

28:46

right now of non-U.S. citizens are

28:48

currently activating some form of taxpayer-funded

28:51

welfare compared to only 35% of U.S.

28:53

households. Talk

28:56

about specifically mentioned targeting

28:58

America's large cities for their

29:01

colossal welfare push. San Francisco,

29:03

New York City, Philadelphia, Chicago,

29:06

they're overwhelmed right now and

29:08

targeting the big cities. In

29:11

a series of welfare drives in

29:13

large cities, we could believe impel

29:15

action on a new federal program

29:18

to redistribute income. They talk

29:20

about the best ways to achieve their

29:22

goals is to create a new loyal

29:24

voting bloc out of the rapidly increasing

29:27

number of welfare recipients. Do you think

29:29

these 12 million people will vote anything

29:31

other than Democrat if the Republicans say,

29:34

no, no, we're going to deport you,

29:36

let alone? No, they won't.

29:38

They will continue to vote this way. And

29:41

on and on and on. And the last piece, I

29:43

want people to research this for themselves. I don't need

29:45

to read this over. You can, in 10 minutes, you

29:48

can read about it. But the last piece that I

29:50

found really interesting was that both Cloward

29:52

and Piven agreed that a mainstream media

29:55

would play a critical role in their organized

29:57

attack against America to quote Cloward and Piven.

30:00

As the crisis develops, it will be

30:02

important to use the mass media to

30:05

inform the broader liberal community about the

30:07

inefficiencies and injustices of welfare. You

30:09

read this and you will say, my God,

30:11

they are doing this right now. And

30:14

they are overwhelming the system. Who's going to

30:17

pay for those 12 million people? You know,

30:19

Robert, the Congressional Budget

30:21

Office, which is the last nonpartisan

30:23

group in Washington, came out and said, this is

30:25

before the 12 million people came in here. By

30:29

2031, in less than seven years, 100%

30:31

of tax revenue will go just to

30:33

pay the interest on

30:38

the debt and the mandatory entitlement programs

30:41

like the $99.5 trillion shortfall in

30:45

Medicare, the $77 trillion shortfall

30:48

in Social Security. And

30:52

when you realize that military spending

30:54

is a

30:57

discretionary line item on

30:59

the budget, that means that we will

31:02

have to borrow money to fund our

31:04

military. How do we maintain our status

31:06

as the leader of the free world?

31:10

And financially and militarily, when we have to

31:12

borrow money just to fund the military, it

31:15

ain't going to happen. That's before the 12 million

31:17

people came in here. Who's going to

31:19

pay for them? They're schooling, they're housing, they're

31:21

food, they're medical. They are

31:23

overwhelming the system and creating a

31:25

system that will break. Ushering

31:27

in universal basic income, especially in the

31:30

big cities, which are becoming nightmares. Throw

31:33

into it the impending commercial real estate issue,

31:36

and it gets a whole lot worse. So I

31:39

have no faith in the US dollar holding

31:41

its value where our debt is going up,

31:43

where printing money would pay our bills. That's

31:45

like using a credit card to pay your

31:47

mortgage. I mean, it doesn't make any sense

31:50

at all. And that's why there's

31:52

no financial education in our schools. But

31:54

that's why most school teachers are Marxists.

32:00

that Mark said was that taxation

32:04

is essential for the spread of communism.

32:07

But also there was a guy named Thomas Jefferson way

32:09

back when. He says, if

32:11

we install a central bank, which the Fed

32:13

is, and the Bank of Japan and all

32:15

these guys, our people will

32:17

wake up homeless. And

32:19

homelessness is expanding. And

32:22

what I'm trying to say to people, this is not a

32:24

mistake. And if you're saving

32:26

dollars exactly as Michael Saylor says,

32:28

if you're saving fiat currency like

32:31

the yen, the euro, the peso, you're

32:33

called a poor person. Getting poor and

32:35

poor because your education hasn't kept up

32:37

with the times. And

32:39

that's a problem of going to school where

32:41

Marxists teach education. So who

32:44

was Obama's classmate at Columbia? I

32:47

don't know if they were classmates, but Jared

32:49

Bernstein went there as well. And if you

32:51

Google Jared Bernstein, Cloud Piven Theory, you'll see

32:53

there's a gazillion articles. He supports it. And

32:56

Jared Bernstein is the lead economic advisor of

32:58

the United States government who advocates for losing

33:01

the reserve status. What better way

33:03

to lose the reserve status than to tell Saudi

33:05

Arabia the linchpin of it and OPEC, hey, we're

33:07

going green. Look, I want a clean world too.

33:10

But to go and say that to Saudi

33:12

Arabia means you are threatening the existence of

33:14

the petrodollar and then sanction

33:16

and weaponize and even confiscate foreign

33:18

reserves and tell other people you

33:20

can do this, but you can't.

33:22

Look, we invaded Iraq 20 years

33:24

ago. We're still occupying their country,

33:26

sanctioning 14 of their banks and

33:29

holding their oil revenue. They

33:31

asked us for a billion dollars out of the 95 billion

33:34

in oil revenue that they made last year that's held at

33:36

the New York Fed. We said, that's not a good time.

33:38

So what have they done? Formally applied the BRICS,

33:41

they're kicking Western coalition forces out of the

33:43

country, made trading in dollars illegal. If you

33:46

own a business and trade in Iraq, you

33:48

will go to jail and they'll take your

33:50

company. And as of January of this year,

33:52

they got rid of all green bills, $100 bills. They're

33:55

out of every bank in Iraq. We're viewed

33:57

as hypocritical. We can do it. You

33:59

can't. If we're not on our side ideologically,

34:02

we're going to confiscate your Forex reserves. This

34:04

is why they're all selling Treasuries and

34:07

buying gold because it has no counterparty

34:09

risk. So, counterparty risk means there's nobody,

34:11

there's gold is money. Silver is

34:13

money. Of the two, just for

34:15

to keep people happy, you have gold, silver.

34:18

I have silver eagles

34:20

and gold eagles. Which

34:23

do you – I mean, I think silver is

34:25

the best buy simply because a person can afford

34:27

it. It's about $30 today, US. This is 2024.

34:32

But Bitcoin, you can get a Satoshi or whatever

34:35

that is, you know, Japanese name. But

34:37

people are still insisting on

34:39

saving fake money, fiat currency.

34:42

That's how I wrote the book, Fake. And

34:46

people are getting poorer and poorer in

34:48

America because most of our

34:50

school teachers are Marxist.

34:54

And they hate the rich. That's

34:56

why they're going after Trump. They hate

34:59

him because he's a rich man. He's

35:01

charged for doing what every real estate

35:03

investor does. We pad

35:06

our financials. We say this

35:08

is how much this building is worth and

35:10

all this. And

35:12

as my rich dad said to me a

35:14

long time ago, he says – so we

35:16

fill out the financial statements. He says the

35:18

difference between your lies and my lies and

35:20

my lies comes true. And so

35:23

what Trump did, he kind of lied on

35:25

his financial statement, but he came true. He

35:27

paid everybody back. But now they're

35:29

going to take down the former president of the

35:31

United States just so that guys

35:34

like Biden, FBI can't find his

35:36

laptop. And

35:38

what about – isn't Biden

35:40

receiving money from Russia, Ukraine, and China?

35:43

Yeah, I mean, it's just

35:45

a complete and total joke. Don't forget about the

35:47

cocaine that they destroyed without checking the fingerprints or

35:49

any of the – I mean, the whole thing

35:51

is a joke. It's a complete and total joke.

35:53

I live not too far from Mar-a-Lago. And

35:55

Sylvester Stallone just bought a house there

35:58

for $30 million on the phone. Palm

36:00

Beach and they're trying and it's

36:03

a fraction of the size of Mira Lago and Mira

36:05

Lago is a much better piece of property. They're saying

36:07

it's 18 million, not the value. I mean, the whole

36:09

thing is just a joke. It's really

36:11

it's really a joke and it's an embarrassment

36:13

to this country. It's embarrassment to a guy

36:15

like you who risked his life fighting for

36:17

a country that that held

36:19

a higher moral ground than the rest of the

36:21

world. I find it to be more repugnant than anything

36:24

we've done mismanaging the World

36:26

Reserve currency. It's what we are doing

36:28

to the reputation to to

36:30

to Liberty to the reputation of a country that

36:32

that was once the beacon of light around the

36:35

world. And now people are saying what the hell

36:37

has gone on and your question about what

36:39

is better? Yeah, I mean Satoshi is what

36:42

you're talking about. You can buy little pieces

36:44

of Bitcoin. Sure. It's great. People can own

36:46

it and hold it in their

36:48

own possession off off the exchange. No

36:50

counterparty risk in terms of gold

36:52

and silver. Look, if I had one trade,

36:54

it might be gold only because it was

36:57

reclassified the world's only other tier one asset

36:59

by the Bank of International Settlements, which is

37:01

the most powerful bank on the planet. Yet,

37:04

I think silver is the trade of a generation. If

37:06

I had two trades, I'd buy silver maybe

37:08

with the intention of down the road when the

37:10

ratio between the two correct trading it back into

37:13

gold. Interesting thing about silver.

37:16

I'd like to mention the Silver

37:18

Institute came out with their numbers

37:20

recently and said 185

37:22

million ounce shortfall this year over 200 million last

37:25

year, but in it they it's

37:27

very conspicuous. They do not mention

37:29

silver in the military industrial complex

37:31

at all. No, there is no

37:33

military breakout. Two years ago,

37:35

I gave a speech in Vancouver the same

37:37

place. I saw you last time at Jay

37:40

Martin's Vancouver Resource Investment Conference, one of the

37:42

best one of only two I go

37:44

to conferences all year. Everyone should check him out. He's

37:47

a mutual friend of ours and a great dude.

37:49

And in it, I said

37:51

there's 500 ounces in the Tomahawk cruise missile

37:54

and a guy came up to me. He sent me this

37:56

cup. He

37:58

says I work. For the Department of

38:00

Defense and I actually helped design the Patriot Missile and

38:03

another silver and and I just don't know how much.

38:05

Well. Last time we were there when I saw

38:07

you last he came up to me after my

38:09

last three to he said you know what you

38:11

were right there is about fourteen to fifteen kilograms

38:13

and the tip of a tomahawk and he showed

38:15

me all sorts of pictures the door this is

38:17

all declassified and we talk for an hour. He

38:19

does he at text me a couple days by

38:21

going to get back to him and. Talk.

38:24

Some more because. They. Didn't

38:26

listed. In any of

38:28

the. Supply. Demand fundamental.

38:31

So when you think of all

38:33

the missiles hi tech missiles much

38:35

as tomahawks an aerospace that need

38:37

silver. And ask yourself, why would

38:39

a commercial bank like Bank of America

38:41

be short? One billion ounces naked short

38:44

of silver? Why was Jp Morgan so

38:46

short? While Jp Morgan pay nine hundred

38:48

and twenty million dollar fine for suppressing

38:50

the market and still allowed to be

38:52

the custodian of the world's largest silver

38:54

trust, the largest find the Justice Department

38:56

ever issued and nets are still allowed

38:58

to do at the point of it

39:00

is is is a silver is the

39:02

military industrial complex. Holding. The

39:05

price of silver down so they can

39:07

create all of these high tech weapons

39:09

to sell all around the world to

39:11

fund the continuation of war all around

39:13

the world. Could it be that simple?

39:15

I don't know, but ask yourself if

39:17

indeed was confirmed by this gentleman a

39:19

D O D consultant who said yes,

39:21

there is that much in a tomahawk.

39:23

Think of all the missiles and ask

39:25

them, why is it not in the

39:27

supply demand fundamentals and then ask yourself,

39:30

why would a handful of commercial banks

39:32

hold the largest concentrated short position in

39:34

any commodity. Traded on call max. Found.

39:36

In silver it makes no sense until

39:38

you take a surprising could that be

39:40

a. Fine. Line between conspiracy. In

39:42

reality I let you all decide, but in

39:44

my mind. Absolutely Wife They

39:46

are allowing these commercial banks to

39:49

suppress silver in order to fund

39:51

the Military Industrial complex efforts. And

39:53

who is Military Industrial complex out?

39:56

And as a Black Rock and

39:58

Vanguard's they own everything. in

40:00

ETFs. Could it be them? Maybe.

40:02

Don't know. I'll let you all decide. Well,

40:04

that's the whole point here is that the

40:06

whole thing is so rigged. It's

40:10

terrifying. And that's why counterparty risk means

40:13

I don't want to own a stock because

40:15

I don't know who's got it. Like if

40:18

I borrow money, I mean, who's the guy who's going

40:20

to pay me back? If I

40:22

want to know. And gold and silver, you don't

40:24

need that. So I miss Bitcoin. You have no

40:27

counterparty risk. Like would you lend

40:29

your stupid brother-in-law a million dollars? You

40:31

know what I mean? No.

40:33

Because the guy doesn't even have a job.

40:37

And so the point, another thing you

40:39

made was complete with this is

40:42

not only is silver using batteries with

40:44

EVs and all that. And I bought

40:46

my first EV. I love the car.

40:48

It's a Cadillac Lyric. I

40:50

go past gas stations and all that. And I own

40:53

oil wells, some kind of trader to my

40:56

industry. But I

40:58

like the battery car. I don't

41:00

go far distances, but I love the car.

41:03

But the thing about no counterparty risk and all

41:05

this, it's getting

41:09

scarcer and scarcer and scarcer,

41:11

much like Bitcoin, because silver

41:14

is consumed just

41:16

as Bitcoin has a finite. And

41:19

that's one reason I like silver. And most

41:21

people can afford 35 bucks today.

41:24

So well, when

41:26

you talk about the counterparty risk in silver, and

41:28

it is getting scarcer. So if you think you

41:30

own, for example, a COMEX contract of silver, which

41:32

is 5000 ounces, currently

41:35

the registered category is rehypothecated. Those

41:37

are the bars that are on

41:39

COMEX. People hold contracts that they

41:41

think they own. They can take

41:43

delivery of. It's rehypothecated roughly about

41:45

1800 percent. Meaning

41:48

if everyone's good for delivery, 17 would

41:50

get cash, one would get the bar. You've

41:52

got to explain what rehypothecate means. Edges

41:55

means selling the same asset over and over and

41:57

over and over and over and over again. because

42:00

of the leverage most people never stood for

42:02

delivery ever and when they develop the

42:05

comax market they figured here's how we can do

42:07

it we can. Let people pretend

42:09

to pay and we can pretend to give it

42:11

to him what i mean by that is

42:13

that if i buy a comax contract to hedge

42:15

my inventory. I just have to

42:17

have about eight thousand dollars in my margin

42:19

account the trades fifteen bucks or less the

42:21

eight thousand dollars in my margin account as

42:23

long as the price doesn't go against me

42:25

allows me to control. A hundred

42:27

ounces ago my could stand for delivery but

42:30

that's what i mean about pretend to pay

42:32

for now they can pretend that i own

42:34

it by rehype selling that same contract over.

42:38

Simple it very simply means they're

42:41

selling the same product over

42:43

and over and over again

42:45

that's what rehypothecate means so

42:47

if somebody says well where's my silver.

42:50

We're in trouble well that's right it would be

42:52

only one out of eighteen would get their silver

42:54

the rest would get cash on that's

42:57

part of the fractional reserve system that

42:59

banks run on. So i

43:01

think one of the biggest things we should

43:03

he was from thomas jefferson again. Like

43:06

he says that if central bank takes over

43:08

which is the fed the year

43:11

i mean the bank of england bank of

43:13

japan. This is our

43:15

people will wind up homeless in the land

43:17

their fathers fought for and

43:19

that's what's happening right now homelessness is

43:21

increasing very simply because every

43:23

time they print money. Asset

43:26

prices go up. But

43:29

when you print money so does

43:31

food and gasoline and all that

43:33

go up so people like you

43:35

and me because we're saving gold

43:37

and silver the asset price goes up

43:39

so we get richer but

43:41

for the people who are saving money.

43:44

They're getting poor and that's why

43:47

michael sailors is what you call a person who

43:49

saves fiat currency poor.

43:52

And because there's no financial education in

43:54

our schools the poor are getting poor

43:57

now they can afford to buy a

43:59

house they can't afford. for the rent

44:01

and homelessness goes up. But

44:03

this is why I'm so adamant about why do

44:06

we have financial education in schools? The Rich Dad

44:08

Company is for. But

44:11

that's why I love what you

44:13

do, because every time I buy from you, you always

44:15

educate me. So final words,

44:17

Andy, how can people get in touch with

44:19

Miles Franklin? And how do you recommend they

44:21

start if they want to? I make no

44:24

money from this. I'm not saying you should.

44:26

I'm not a financial advisor. So how

44:29

would people get in touch with

44:31

Miles Franklin? No, I love you,

44:33

Robert. And I appreciate your kind

44:35

words. infoatmilesfranklin.com. Say you heard me

44:37

on the Robert Kiyosaki show. And

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we will send you the

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current price list, which will be far more

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Any questions you've heard on here you want to

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info at Miles Franklin. And we will make

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it a very, very, very good experience. You

44:57

have my word on that. And one of

44:59

the problems with gold and silver is storage. Well,

45:03

how does Miles Franklin mitigate that? So

45:06

I think that if you can hold it

45:08

yourself, it behooves you because of the lack

45:11

of counterparty risk and having no one

45:13

in between you and your money. But

45:15

we do, I think, have the finest storage program

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in the industry. I think we're the envy of

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the storage industry. We have a exclusive arrangement that

45:23

no one else has with brings for

45:25

a fixed rate storage program all

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throughout nine volts around the country, and

45:30

meaning it's based on the ounces rather

45:32

than the value. That's very unusual in

45:34

the industry. And

45:36

if you need to store it, all of our

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storage accounts are 100%

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segregated, insured, and audited

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semi-annually for safety. The reason I

45:46

laugh is you deal

45:48

with attorneys. A lot of them are basically

45:50

smart people. But

45:53

they lack a lot of common sense, if you know what I mean. Every

45:56

attorney I meet, I say, how in the world?

46:00

you are as an attorney, you don't know much about that. But

46:02

I was at this one conference, you

46:05

know, masses of people, and this

46:07

attorney stands up there and he says, yeah,

46:09

I own gold and silver and said, he says, where do

46:11

you keep it? I keep it at my house. I

46:16

just cracked up. I says, why don't you say come

46:19

over to my house for potluck? Yeah,

46:24

well, and that's the thing about storage. If

46:26

you're going to store it, make sure you

46:28

do it with a very reputable company. And

46:30

that's why I partnered with Brinks in storage,

46:33

because they're the finest in the industry. Over

46:35

100 years, they've never had an attempted break

46:38

in any of their facilities. So that's

46:40

who I choose. And the end up is the

46:42

Cloward Piffin, that's the paper. P-I-V-E-N,

46:45

Cloward Piffin theory. Well, Andy, thanks

46:47

so much for being an educator,

46:49

most importantly, but also is that

46:52

we both had, my poor dad saved

46:55

money. That's why he was poor, really

46:57

sad, you know, and

46:59

my rich dad, he didn't

47:01

save gold, he saved silver, because

47:03

we couldn't, you know, silver, gold was illegal

47:05

for us to remember. Yeah,

47:08

until 1974. That's right. So

47:10

anyway, and the rule

47:12

of thumb is always pay yourself first. It

47:16

is indeed, it is indeed. And I'm always so

47:18

happy to be here and to see you. You

47:20

look great. Thanks for having me. And in

47:23

a world that's going to get increasingly volatile

47:25

leading up to the big meeting in October

47:27

for the bricks, where 36 more countries have

47:29

formally applied, and then the election the month

47:31

after, I'm sure there'll be lots to talk

47:33

about. So I'm always willing to jump on.

47:36

And in the meantime, I hope you and everyone

47:38

else out there stay well. As the Chinese curse

47:41

goes, may you live in interesting times. And boy,

47:43

these are getting more and more interesting by the

47:45

day. So I hope everyone stays well. So anyway,

47:47

thank you very much. And then we'll see you

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49:14

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49:25

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that's how I learned. But anyway a

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50:09

put the wall up and Biden took the wall down.

50:13

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50:15

the biggest, most treasonous individuals, president we've

50:17

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