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Die Avantgarde – Teil 2

Released Wednesday, 1st May 2024
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0:00

Music.

0:45

And ähm you just Menschent ähm,

0:49

So it is not that you wait for casalty and they come one and you come concentrate on them they,

1:00

Tee so your three for five,

1:05

And have to deal with all of them in the same time. Yeah, sometime some,

1:12

We have äh quit to big Team at the Moment. Right because we have the team on the stabilisation point which is quiet big and also we have the motherfuck team which is there always at least two one team. Right,

1:24

so we have ähm the means to deal with a lot of casuals,

1:31

So if there is only one or two that are really ähm tough and that are like red reader

1:38

denn, something to do for yourself Ride.

2:11

Ohren ist äh doing, the injection for the IV eh one is maybe getting gready for the Central. I ähm äh access.

2:23

Äh äh a capple of the people actually cutting the clown and are pouting on the new to any kletter taking of the old done or taking the want, there is usually loads and loads of stuff to do at one ähm,

2:38

one moment. So, jetzt actually comparable with a Major Traum and Unit. Yeah, it's very, there is a lot of People, by one patient. It's not like a normal hospital usually it's much last Rights and few to

2:51

The Hospital we don't to really like to much People right. It's like hive someone is there is like one person too much it's like your fuck of. And yeah here is just like everyone of the round and äh a lot of for

3:06

äh Looking Searching for some places because

3:10

smarte Perfect Setting. Mhm. So you have to go and find some maybe medizin or äh equipment you need from the Box or from another shealth for from the other room or something because

3:21

Ja, das Setting Kiss not great right. Mhm. You have äh very limited space around,

3:27

You don't have like really nice cabines or lams. Everything is kind of äh improvised. Hm. So this happens.

3:39

Time, so then everyone just grab their on patient and you just you allone with dispeciaed and nomboly

3:48

like the main search and would give you some you know instructions or you would decide on the patient. But win many casualties come,

3:58

There is no option for that, you theside for yourself. You are are just a total äh separate unit and your the main serged know. Hm. You just do what every, you need to even, if it's not in your äh normal,

4:13

if you know how to do it, we just do it. Mhm. Because this persons life defense on it and there is no one around you that can help you because they are busy we down patient is well,

4:24

So, ja, that's that's how it looks like that's that's and do you have a special system for triage. I think I could your much in that it's it's quite hard to to us äh Sivilian Triage äh,

4:36

und und because see you have,

4:43

der. How do you die side äh who ähm is is a red one in the beginning or who is maybe just a yellow one?

5:04

Ähm, It's times really bad,

5:11

Buts ähm because you don't really have a field of casual this and äh that you can go around and do enor Triash on,

5:20

you are actually good coming with usually havy equipment right with maschinery,

5:25

and you just have to take them one, by one inside because you know that ähm everything is being Bombard, so you have to just act fast and just thank the mincide,

5:35

And then new just have a quick look and then new just access at the spot.

5:44

Okay. Denn bei enter or when you have to bring them in.

6:09

It's not aspacific system, It's just more a bit of like again experience. Mhm. And then of course you will focus on the one that need more and still have a chance of survival. Mhm. So basically what's reashed does. But not in this possible sister. Mhm. Not bus.

6:28

Okay, Jetzt äh some how ähm ähm unbelievable beface because we and and this äh clean ähm,

6:43

Ähm, Shell-Tout, we like to to to to to put everything into äh something erklärt. Ja. Ähm what other,

6:56

Thinks you deliver at seems like ähm it is,

7:01

Quark compable with an Major Drama Unit or emergency Room. So do you have things like blood?

7:10

IS also like to et before we speak about blood actually. Ja. One of the things I love in äh our Ukrainian a stabilisation for setting,

7:24

that we don't have in Poland usually and we would love to have it is ähm äh recorder,

7:31

so there was always äh person in our stabilisation point. Who is only taking notes and feel link in the medical hard and he's not doing anything goes and I just love it.

7:46

It's not the medical person. Right so sometimes doir some ears, you have to tell the many the stop sometimes you will do has mostic and you can catched up usur leave,

7:58

But apart from that I just love it,

8:01

Because to you don't have to you know like do and right at the same time and is just one person that dicated to this. It something that I seen in the american system much a really love.

8:12

And äh you communicate with him, right to the time, so you get the feedback as well,

8:34

ja Don't loose information. Right? Mhm.

8:55

So bing done on this part not after. Yes, I the voice are you for get half for for you did äh especially if it's äh a difficult case, ja. Ja,

9:09

Und, doesn't work, which äh which is a problem as you said äh so with you lot of a documentation afterwards and äh half for this is arong if,

9:32

äh just by Queriacity. Ähm.

9:39

Äh well we have a around the woo äh system. So and the ambulance äh tibally consists of two äh people, ähm paromatic and in EMT you kids ay,

9:50

Sometimes Days äh one person ähm whos äh in Training for ähm parametic, sometimes äh three person Team.

9:59

And ähm then we have äh facision response cars äh which are stuff with a Doctor and ähm also aparomatic top cally so if they roundabout they havely five ähm for to five People.

10:13

Okay. Mhm. Ja, so was of the Teams in a normal setting in Poland are actually now made äh two person teams only

10:21

fit is really bed in our of finan in the medical äh personal opinion. Because it's

10:28

usually not anout. Yes, especially if you to a resercation or äh something like that Critical äh patients äh we think in in Germany that even a four five People may not be äh subicion and

10:40

Maybe we have to to bring anditional teams for the Critical passions but

10:44

das ist in in Warzone äh I think this will not befesable, but this is,

10:56

das ist in we would never treat such pasions in in äh in ein Dramabay with just äh for people so.

11:11

Ja. There are actory Maybe time people also äh with something.

11:17

Ist a lot of stuff on in the dramabay, but äh we don't have a lot of stuff ähm in der Pre-house mit dem Setting so fahren.

11:30

But äh ja, It's hard to to to to change the mind of people äh we say we've all right me if eh don't it like that all the time and we ever change, ja.

11:44

You are we know we know the same problems here,

11:48

Was? World think does and change you always have one ambulance for one ähm casual to right. Mhm. In Polen this well. So,

12:00

What I would like to also at to this discussion what disquate interesting is äh in nowhere ambulance indone bus right, you know ähm,

12:10

Äh Dombass über let's go it. Äh we actually have ähm a lot of casual for this free person team. So, if for on is the driver we have two,

12:21

Mexico ähm personal in the back with the Patients,

12:27

and the patients are usually one is liing, because we in most the hour and beulences. We have only place for one stretcher, because it's a kind of typical ambulant seting conside,

12:42

usually a care äh ähm couple of sitting spaces.

12:59

Mhm. If we were kind of flow it with casual these that some points

13:08

and we had like really greely a lot of them. Äh we had for example like one hundred casualties äh a day for example. Every day. Hm.

13:17

Which is yeah, very bad it. Äh and we we had problems with you know maintaining with all the rotations and like,

13:28

back with the Rotations even with the five six matter buck teams. Mhm. Because one way is one ours I said with the matter but, it's takes time to go and go back again.

13:45

Bart. Äh ja they would be time for our coffee in Ivy. It would be perfect that.

13:51

Äh but anyway äh our äh I think biggest transport with the normalens, not a container. Mhm. Was,

14:02

This is really. Yeah so that's quite crazy, so äh when we wered like talking about triash.

14:13

But ithere was like you know, we constant Triash going don't all the one one our mid of way. Okay. Well patients on the board with us. And we had to find of take care of all of them right

14:26

So of course we treat it the mh well bellow in red once right at the beginning,

14:33

äh and then we at the äh lest resort we ast all the green ones, if we good help them, with anything if we had salted the like

14:43

more enge, and that was one our of the drive like this well hopping on the road like have for me to up, with everyone, the casual this and the madices well and the magics a where you know just standing of the way like this.

14:58

Still and nothal down, because the casualties wear just you knows tithing all the around the monthor. That we couldn't move we just do our taktical positions,

15:09

you know ähm the Medizin and some of the most important equipment and the casual ties. So reach of the arm ähm ja.

15:22

Five minutes for each patient,

15:25

Ja and some of the patients that will green right, so in good shape and they will counsias. They were actually like helping and holthing some of the floids for the like reduce right. So it was a cooperation everyone.

15:39

And some of there hm green pactions that was sitting on the äh chairs.

15:45

They were actually kind of like Holding of by the bell for example, so we you don't follow. Corporating full body. Very one.

15:56

This is really impressive äh,

16:00

but yeah and going back to the question about the blood. Because sorry I just kind of when to wake that very interesting side story so just continue. I have a DHD so I'll beside storing gold the time sorry.

16:16

Äh so yeah we are at the beginning is i said we had problems, we even with the Ivy.

16:23

Then it's change that got better we this all the I was everything normal I the access Rights,

16:30

ähm and then later äh at hour stabilisation fight that we are working at now which is,

16:38

well the best in the area definitely. Äh we started it using Plasma,

16:43

we didn't have for a long time, we didn't have any blood. Mhm. Äh it was nationally possible we didn't get any kind of ähm access to this kind of ähm equipment and the Blood it self,

16:59

ähm, Ähm,

17:10

Äh And äh after some time when we got better in legistics, we got some extra equipment from you know some place some donners ähm and the Ukrainians and we are's well,

17:31

and we were able you ähm,

17:34

protect of the electricity and destabilization point and we had you know the special boxes for ähm the ambulances. Mhm. All of them, not only hours for example.

17:46

We actually started using äh hope blood is well. Mhm.

17:52

So this is something I'm very happy about actually because ähm well,

17:57

you can a magic many of the casual ties before without the blood uh one not table to survive because there is only as special a mount of,

18:07

Liquid in that is not blond that you can give and actually we don't like to.

18:15

We don't want to make the blood ähm äh Finder to get read of all the importants ähm stuff in,

18:25

we want to minimized the fluids as possible. Yes to look at their pressure and the vitals.

18:32

So you are the world changed äh everything and most of the Passions now are actually getting the foil bload.

18:40

It's very interesting ähm as we have äh an the moment and on going discussion in in ist äh if it make sense to kive ähm Blood äh out of Hospital ähm. Mhm. And äh

18:54

we are strongly advocated and we also carry blood in our ähm special response unit. But ähm many äh many ähm,

19:03

People still äh a Convention der Hospital Hosplading and äh the problem came beself there, so this this is äh,

19:14

Setting that you are working in with with long transport times and so one mit.

19:23

Transfusion and äh on the facts, yes

19:27

Ja, I mean in Poland, we have just execily the sames situation, it's just like carpy pace the same think. Mhm. So I'm just seen know at vocating äh for this situation.

19:39

Because it's a very importants äh will at least in this setting, yeah äh of course,

19:46

Usuli in Germany Poland, you don't have to äh it doesn't take you one our to the has titel with the fashion,

19:55

or even sometimes when you have pro longt. Äh in our settings in Ukraine is takes you know. We have somepatiens that our waiting like,

20:05

seventy hours to get ever cuated. So,

20:10

Ja, that's change is everything of course but here load definitely rescuse lifes and äh it is possible to eh just learn how to use it responsedly and it's,

20:25

Difference Story it just changes everything, most of the patients with out the blood, wo's die.

20:32

And ähm informer Wars ähm we saw extensive use of helicopters for medical evacuation. Ja.

20:42

Ähm and I think you must have a good reason äh not to use Helikopters in the setting can you tell las about this.

20:51

Yeah we don't have single use once. Okay. Soday just get shot down instantly und yeah the problem is because of the amount of ähm being used and I don't me in off course the hand äh weppens but,

21:10

the morters the are tillary the rockets the dromes. So the amount of that in the air,

21:17

äh make it almost impossible to do mattervarke by Helikopter like we use to do in for example Afghanistan. And in Afghanistan also,

21:37

and here yeah not a chance all the made the buck is happening on wheels,

21:44

or on a with does a punk have. Ah äh Tracks. Ja das. Thank you.

21:54

So, ja, die soll die only options basically. Mhm. So ähm and in many places

21:59

wow the road as shit. If you can colled a road actually,

22:05

Oh ja, that's very problematic of course for the cause for the Medic Teams äh we very often have to change the wheels.

22:15

Äh we are actually we're are lefting that we coulds are work informual one, now, we can because for so fast with it now.

22:25

Because when every fing once to cute you will be really fest. Every good motivation yes. Ja.

22:34

Not fastableast in most of the areas. I'm not think any very new grain, because of course, there using helicopters in some areas in Ukraine, I no they are. Hm.

22:45

Art most of the place, dass ich erstmal of the War, notch not at the Warzone,

22:54

ihr but i know there some transports you know ähm a lot to has changed for äh doing does to years so

23:02

Ja, it's äh the situation is getting more ähm world better more professional a lot of new ähm options are curring a lot of new äh cooperations with many different countries is will right,

23:16

ja Helikopter, das ist ein Upchanging. Ähm do you head to treat russian casual this?

23:30

Äh ja. It's not very common for the russians to be taking into a green stabilisation point right.

23:46

Ethoden zum Beispiel probabbelator.

23:56

Was ähm. You know are many of the actions of Ukrainians and Russians

24:13

Äh are actually very a professional prosize and very well for and ähm when you look at the you know twenty first century or packtics,

24:28

But's there is also a lot of äh let's college shit hit defense. Nein.

24:35

It's com in every world we know it happens. Just usual beat don't talk about this right. Mhm. And it happens on both sights of course, visually äh take out everything that is on the russian side, because there is a,

24:48

hm vier and pusital war, going on. Mhm. Äh äh this saying level asuell right,

25:00

So Mhm.

25:20

Okay, they go and what happens is the russian sand them,

25:26

äh Ukrainian tranged the tours their ready.

25:32

Oh and the actually we're dout weapons and with the shovers thanks he basically kind of fell into that rekraned trenches,

25:43

Wie so eine Pharma interesting.

25:49

Schatz, die Dosis selbst trenches with air free russians inside of then.

25:56

Oh. Oh what happens is all the wonder Ukrainians? Came of pourse towers stabilisation points. But,

26:16

will also wod with them. So they too them with them is well. Because life what to do at them. Äh just pict up everybody and in because normally they would go to a difference are

26:29

Area. Mhm.

26:34

Just everyone was wonder so they just to everyone. So just was the only time that we actually had to eh do with Russian Soldiers,

26:45

and äh two out of free were actually in ähm they were savous.

26:55

Äh So, The Rosen nothing that we had to do we cood the give them like you know pain culears, or just you know like äh do this good Russian, good Russian, keeve them a pleasure any think. But ähm,

27:12

we din do anything because there was no need really?

27:19

Not really surver sibiri,

27:22

but it was this kind of you know, nästy bleeding like you get from Avenus one. Mhm. That is ähm that can be life and because it just keeps I'm going right. Not like

27:34

like Quentin Terratinal like to you like but still. Nein. It's äh not something. It's just not stoping.

27:47

Hate Ukrainias, Rights, so when they came to distabilisation point, day got instantly ähm.

28:01

Everything blablabla like in eh takical empire man should be done and ähm,

28:08

they were tine, you know and the retreated like eh,

28:14

Genau. Äh and no one really äh out of our Ukrainian Madics Friends,

28:29

approjed them to look at anything like medically right. Mhm. Because many of them, they last their best friends familys, even children

28:39

because of the actions. Right so you can emergen like the a mount of emotions and side of them the rage everything.

28:50

And it's a very hard situation and we can defencly understand it.

28:56

Many äh really bad shit,

29:00

on this War, do ring this ware and we seen as well children think ähm shout at orbount, made a russian it

29:09

We actually didn't have as strong feelings as our ukrainian friends, but still, we wored so egol to go just straight to way to help them at the first momentes well.

29:20

You know we have dix. We ähm all the way swanted to,

29:26

ähm Treat every patient and maybe not äh decided if someone need study for die right and it something that we believe that we would always ähm work according to this rule,

29:39

But your this time the first Moment, you had to have a small you know, ähm,

29:45

you have to think about the actually. You have to like confeence yourself that this is something unique to do. So when I did dis conversation like inside of me.

30:05

But more mounse And the fight connectually treat this, because I felt in me that this is something I should do even do this was not my first ford and it was something I didn't really want to do, but yeah I just felt they had to,

30:20

whan't you gave me promission, because hes the commander I just wender and you are tweeted this this one äh want.

30:41

Ja, for meet with important internally as well. Mhm. I'm not got it. I can treat it so I will, basically is just comes to that,

30:51

But also if you think about it eh even outside of ähm you know the your your like hard your internal fort and everything like that.

31:04

Point of view. It's also better,

31:09

Mhm. Eventuell, It's just a good the cision,

31:20

But actually a strenge story to mergen that sold just with shoods äh send to dig the ongrave some how.

31:33

Yes ähm,

31:43

How do you manage? To,

31:51

When your doing, äh dem Job. Because our wice I would go crazy.

32:09

Ja it's also away of deal link with some shade as well right,

32:21

Special äh sometimes that design of lets in say intelligence. Äh these äh anotical I red said that and I like it. But it first from that it also welpes of the with,

32:38

Tho we have to agree with that's just äh honestly. Äh great,

32:44

I like the humor putch. So so funny.

32:53

Ähm and and the moment you are back in Poland.

32:56

So ähm how can we match and that is it kind of äh an,

33:02

Rotational system you äh äh in Poland for some weeks and then you go back for severl weeks again or how how do you desight when you when you go there,

33:12

Äh yeah we have the commander of the Team so I take care or,

33:24

and ähm I try to make it as ähm Smart and äh Logistically äh Logisticly smart as possible, so to create good teams

33:35

Äh that's corporate good together, that you have like the main Madic ride the main good driver and et cetera ähm and I try to ähm,

33:45

Ähm, that our people have right because all of us äh because we are doing this all for free pro bonno.

33:58

We have jobs right. I try to take

34:15

this into concentration is well because not everyone can fake athirting a mount of time off or in the curtain face right. And they have to ask for promission for example some of the working hospital, so they have,

34:29

ähm, and we Create Rotationsbased on that and sometimes to if we have äh,

34:44

we are missing one person in the team and we have to sende team then usualy äh me or robot two is

34:54

ähm MyRide äh the Beauty Commander. Mhm. I weasually full in the gAbs. Mhm.

35:05

So yeah I'm still in the lead the definitely I time spend on the on the from signe, but mostly because I started. But this,

35:20

äh Team. Bei Return for äh small a mounce of time. I tright to continued work on the plattforms und ähm but it got äh definity hard to dove,

35:43

Ähm. Äh because it was impossible to just connect both. So I had to resigned.

35:59

From Ukraine or from äh the platform, so ähm I don't work their, äh at the Moment any more, äh I feel in my time with some other work,

36:14

Basic so so you know not not äh ähm over paid by by the state or something like that for manding ähm dangerous,

36:28

Job you have to down,

36:32

Nein. Ähm ähm er ist der so much money,

36:47

somewhere in Europe. Schaut now weared is we don't know is well. But ähm I think if the motivated a skilled people ähm,

37:00

actually ähm it it would make sense to stuff them with everything that need.

37:08

Soy have so they wen have now responsibilities ähm,

37:15

vor vor der normal live bei Termin. Ähm,

37:22

No After to years. What do you think about this wa?

37:29

Aber das, It is very much yes. Äh,

37:41

Wow. Myupin about anyward didn't change actually ähm,

37:47

Overally, if we look at it of course it's very positival as all Wars. Äh a out of People are.

38:00

Mhm. Wow wealthy have money all in the politics. Äh I'm not saying good of them, but most of them don't really give wish it right they just äh want have thans best week out come out of a tright.

38:23

Äh Real People for fighting and this ware. So ähm,

38:35

We are always saying thet will trying night to go in the Politics because than we are getting really angry and we are actually you know eh egor of quitting because of all this but,

38:48

We are trying to focus on those People where actually are leaving their familys, there lifes everything.

39:01

And they just go and fight for their country or not event for their country. Right their follink tears room all over the world. Theater just there because day feel that this is äh,

39:14

Naht something that should be happening and they just want to save lifes and help. Right and that's it and I think it's,

39:22

also lovely in some kind of way. If there is anything lovely about ware. It's this ähm feel think of ähm Corporation and humanity and just äh leaving for,

39:38

äh And yeah that's what we see there from our point of you. Because we doll, see the big picture we see at from tV just is you right.

40:03

We see it from the small our parts, the small units that directually just there fighting for with the weapons or fighting for lifes at magics.

40:14

We see their a motivation,

40:20

ähm don't have alem anymore

40:24

they come back from the frontline without a hand and there on the stabilisation points creaming that their going back

40:31

because their coliques are there. Hm. And we are streaming at the dance like not the fuck you, you are doing to the huspot our you can not fight in this

40:41

Condition and their like fighting with us that no no his going back. Doesn't care we can see you know forest came of the go to the hospital because keens to go back and fight because there in,

40:52

das. It's doing with a lot of emotions. White and steen fuck you don't really want to see or you can never and see.

41:21

And think how people prash, cry and äh full apart,

41:28

and sometimes deopations if the still conscious of to we give them back to the hospital,

41:35

they sometimes for example äh.

41:44

Thanking us for our work. And that's actually,

41:49

We had many you know, very bad situations we had moment, that we want to äh end this and go back home and like I fuck this I have enough right. It's normal.

42:03

Event normal work settings. When you like rull in the pist windsupping. Just you know äh just happened,

42:10

and then do small situations eh made us stay. Again and again an again,

42:18

That's äh really impressive. Yes I fowed actually that,

42:26

Woah Wood Kill humanity. It's all but,

42:30

It seems that you medic you some kind of flower that grows some some weirds.

42:38

You are there is this small kind of way do saar flowers keep on, yeah, growing some where there. Hm.

42:49

Max Hope. Ja. Do, Do get or do you think to Ukrainians,

42:59

Get enough Support from the from europe on the West.

43:11

First of all we can see that some countries. I will not name them. But some countries don't really want to give all the health they can

43:20

they want to kind of you know, give it with small dosis. Mhm. Tho week they good bleed out the russians more and that's kind of make sense Rights,

43:30

Äh for the hope picture.

43:40

Jetzt ein guter Action. But because of that your keeling for example the nation night or bow them.

43:50

And some of the countries are helping as much ay can even more, then they can,

43:58

of course the grandio and some of them a very thank for this and you can see eat and so amazing and some of them actually,

44:07

you know, you give a thinkure and they are taking the hand and they want more and there not even you know they feel like day hm the serve it. Right? Oh,

44:18

Not saying, Oldination, but it's kind of devided right, so you have does problems as well,

44:23

And many people are then and being you know ähm left angrey

44:29

all thinks feeling sand, because you gave a lot and you didn't get this you know small thank you, that you wore counting for,

44:39

Paid for something. The only thing your hoping for is the thankful messrides. You don't get it. Oh your in a really bed place then.

44:49

And the third problem I will say is of course äh the corruption which we will now is existent in Ukraine.

45:03

Because you know some somewhere ähm doesn't exist and somewary. Definity. And it's all on all levels. It's asistent on all levels,

45:15

We know that because of ähm a lot of withment, money and donations just,

45:22

Bernisching somewhere into finare Puff äh many countries kind of when back,

45:30

and the not helping guess much is they did before and,

45:35

Right, it's also normal because if you give a lot and some it is just distriing on the way. Mhm. It sounds like ähm you know, this was happening in Africa for a long time right alls of the first,

45:49

was kein was,

45:55

because if you would one some of the eights to go, rechertain point, ay, die percent of the too to betaten by the like, private military that was their right and then only twenty percent would get across

46:07

and that was their payment for lefting it across.

46:10

And something Ukraine something very simularis find of happening. Which is the are very not not a good think.

46:20

So Talking baut Support äh ähm we wet on your äh Facebookpage that you just lost äh one of your weakles in the crash so,

46:30

I think you äh could also you some support for your organisation ähm how äh would be pospo support you.

46:40

Äh You can visit our Facebooker Instagram Page äh Avangard äh Madics Polish Madics,

47:01

äh Because äh usualy we struggle to pay for the basic ähm needs and Logistics of all of what we are doing,

47:24

We are not even äh counting on getting fa

47:29

Mhm. We are just at least counting for we don't have to ah ad anything from our packers any more because we can just not a for the anymore,

47:41

ähm ja so and äh second option with we would very much äh appreciate.

47:56

Because that was not the aim of our actions we just all on to do the work weekend really think of this,

48:05

Unsportunity it's a must have and if we want support, if you want to continue we need, this kind the from mo,

48:13

Body and äh Lego Body and äh The Funce, that come wid it,

48:19

We have äh äh for Accounts that are in äh Euro in äh hm founds in dollars and pollish what we course,

48:30

if you like to supporters ja that äh it's a possibility of just don't mating something for ust and he will see the you sof with definitel leon our page because we just

48:42

kostet and we just continue to do the work. Mhm. All the fight.

48:49

And for our lesnas I will ähm äh Menschen Desinformation in äh auf das Eposa so. And the shownotes and on a webridge and.

49:06

Ähm, you resived a metal,

49:15

Ah, yes. This wois very impressive ähm for yes.

49:23

Ähm because we are all the time kind of expending. Right but they once that were their from the beginning,

49:34

But's most of them definitely receive the matters from from the president of äh of Poland,

49:41

Ähm, äh ähm that's cold the time on no hero ascore or just good for the community and äh yeah we will we will we water it,

50:03

So, so for hour lesiness where not sure have day so shood support your hornot by by the polic stage and your onable so,

50:14

mein ähm,

50:20

Maybe if you like äh last question.

50:25

Same, some one good luck to join you and,

50:32

Support you with this one hands or what like to get oder big comebor one tear, what? Ja? Wud you at Wares?

50:41

Okay, so äh,

50:44

definitiv äh we need äh English speakers if not for the speakers because äh I did learn a bit of German in School, but it's not the now. So sorry.

50:59

But ähm ja if for someone äh has a good English.

51:04

Ähm we have some äh we have a lot of english speakers in our polich team

51:10

So, that would be a problem, we good communicate together. Äh few with have some Ukrainian or russian thank with actually at any basics that will beeven äh better,

51:21

But's apart from that eh if your as killed magic and äh if you feel that's äh your charakter is good.

51:32

Ähm. Right

51:47

we have to in this conditions. We are oft them äh kind of glude to gether in a smoke,

51:56

And we have to corporate and we have to some how not cuel each out there

52:03

Ja. And we have to ähm also you know albay or some orders right from also the come commander of the unit we corporate with

52:13

but also weed the commander of the team äh of the polish team on this but right,

52:19

no one is you know making at very arm me like. It's not like super regares, but äh someone has to be the commander,

52:27

in Ähm Communicates, have to follow the orders right. Mhm. So, those things being just äh,

52:45

no book nice Person, Nathanas.

52:52

So yeah, you can you can ähm contact us and we can talk about it

52:57

Okay, I like this very much. Some kind proofs äh my my experience with äh people and I think ähm people whoa ähm,

53:11

People how in the position to recruit ähm work people they they should look more after to charakter of the,

53:21

Member. Da unten high i as holles.

53:30

Okay, Kate! Thanks, very much is their anything you would like to at to talk about all,

53:41

ähm we will leave it by that me see.

53:57

Äh going back to some lessons learning I would say

54:03

Okay? Example ähm,

54:15

Die Americans, The User Love Cademy, we know they love it. Right it

54:20

bin äh äh it has a lot of äh really good ähm uses,

54:27

äh many different situations is well, it doesn't ähm lower depressure that much like some of the other drugs,

54:44

Forty BI. Propaful kein Dorf like und,

55:11

and from our perspective actually it's completely the opposit would we lands is most up the patients of our casualis,

55:23

Super soldiers, right.

55:31

Man something they shows usually or if they chosed they we are not to what their going for,

55:41

and a lot of them i very hm Unstayble äh secol logy,

55:47

they are after only cattamin by them itself they can be very aggressive or they have a shutdowns. Mhm. Or a day have flashbacks,

56:00

It's really hard to watch, and also if we have manipations and only to personal in the back of the embulence. It's also half to do with.

56:11

And of course a,

56:15

because of the bombing, because of the work in the embulence. You have a lot of äh sounds and lights and it's not something you can uh you race.

56:25

And with ketter me also we were very mhm heily sensitiv right to to light to äh sounds and everything. So,

56:34

One of the lessons Learn for example for mower perspective is we are ways mix cater mean with something Else with in the Asthetic so we can kind of quiete the hasueteen down.

56:54

And nothing happens äh because of this

56:57

Mixing Medikaments. And this a something we always come bine.

57:04

Ähm. As well äh some of the paintuiders right so. Usually my favourites our favourite is fantana, usually but yeah in depence.

57:20

Okay. Ja, but,

57:24

it's easy to imagin that äh äh Ketamin trip, das Notwork very Well, if you are underconstant Shelling and äh this is notwood äh situation you would like to get into, ja.

57:36

Ja I know some people might say that it's because of the Dose then then you coach just you know go hire with the Dose for example a try micro dosing bla bla bla. Ja, it's not enough. We definitel we just see use fat it is,

57:52

Ähm, so just the dome question. When you say come bye because you can can come bine kater mean and propoful in ones rinch as ketaful it,

58:08

Donot talk about come bining medisalem and one,

58:14

No actually we precurty you single serious. Okay. Äh is very your comedy used and I know a lot of People really like it.

58:28

Right the power of Dosing one and the other,

58:34

Äh Äh that's what we are doing here to where but,

58:45

We are come bining them in fix stoese and not doesing one and the other. Okay.

58:53

Ich bin Cross Germans luck sheets. I know, yeah, boxes.

59:00

We like to play with this surren just, yeah. All with the pumps.

59:07

Okay, Kay Diswas Xtremly impressive äh in many parts also shocking, but,

59:17

Ja. Und so very incouraging to hear, what what you are doing and ähm very greatful, that you share your experience is with us, äh really thank you very much.

59:28

Thank you, thank you very much for having me and yeah. I'm happy to share this experience and maybe someone can take something out of with I'll be very happy then.

59:38

Ja maybe maybe follow up. Hopefully after the War,

59:45

Ja, Sher I love that. How get more lessance äh ready for you then. Okay. Maybe I'm to optimistic and,

59:54

Wolltec sometime then we we should to another follow upper. Ja? Ja. And I'm sure we still have loads of popics weedend even Cover a little bit.

1:00:08

Ja thank you very much. Thanks for your time. Thanks for making this possible. Thank you.

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