This week we have the second half of the conversation between Jorrin Bruns (Support Engineer, Parity Technologies) and 0xbrainjar, founder and CEO of the Polkadot parachain Composable Finance. Composable and sister parachain Picasso on Kusama allow smart contracts built on different languages and different chains to connect, enabling cross-chain DeFi applications and more. If you missed part 1, have a listen here (https://relaychain.fm/44-composable-finance-part-1-unlocking-cross-chain-cross-layer-defi-on-polkadot).In part 2, they talk more about Mosaic, Composable’s transfer availability layer, and XCVM, their cross-consensus virtual machine. They look at how Composable approaches cross-chain bridging and communication, interoperability with ecosystems outside of Polkadot, and thinking outside the box for cross-chain applications beyond what’s already been done before.LinksComposable Finance (https://www.composable.finance/) Picasso Network (https://www.picasso.xyz/) Angular Finance (https://twitter.com/AngularFinance) Whirlpool Cash (https://twitter.com/Whirlpool_Cash) Highlights01:35 - Mosaic, XCVM and liquidity fragmentation03:45 - Transaction fees w/ multiple blockchains04:50 - Intro to XCVM (cross-consensus virtual machine)07:15 - Interoperability with Cosmos and other ecosystems11:32 - XCVM and bridging deep dive16:30 - Cross-chain developer and user experience24:30 - Angular, Substrate’s first money market26:45 - Whirlpool Cash (zk mixing)Special Guest: 0xbrainjar.