Professor Renée Leon, Vice-Chancellor and President of Charles Sturt University, and Professor Judyth Sachs explore the parallels between universities and public service, and where higher education can learn from government. Renée shares insights from her first six months in role, why multidisciplinarity is the answer to complex problems, shared direction as key to a journey of change, and the one thing she would change for students to give them an experience reminiscent of her own.