Join Katie and Justin in this two part conversation about people being put before programs.  It can be difficult to know how to implement trauma informed approaches within the classroom.  And, we, as people, love to make systems!  So, why can’t trauma informed care be a packaged program?  How can we make it work within a classroom?  During this episode, Katie and Justin will address these topics, as well what shifts schools and districts need to make to help teachers get there.  So, come join this challenging conversation as Katie and Justin rethink the order of what’s most important:  people, or programs.  As always, Katie and Justin would love to hear your questions and comments!

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