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Karen Says "Boys Will Be Boys" So I Returned The Favour r/TraumatizeThemBack

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Karen Says "Boys Will Be Boys" So I Returned The Favour r/TraumatizeThemBack

Karen Says "Boys Will Be Boys" So I Returned The Favour r/TraumatizeThemBack

Karen Says "Boys Will Be Boys" So I Returned The Favour r/TraumatizeThemBack

Karen Says "Boys Will Be Boys" So I Returned The Favour r/TraumatizeThemBack

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them back stories of the year. Up

1:01

to this point, Karen said, boys will

1:03

be boys. So I return the favor. More

1:06

than 20 years ago, when me and my

1:08

sisters were still in elementary, our mom took

1:10

us to a shopping mall for clothes and

1:12

groceries. A major supermarket was attached to the

1:15

mall. After everything was over, we

1:17

stopped by the bookstore where us kids picked

1:19

whatever books we wanted while she was picking

1:21

educational books for both of us. The bookstore

1:24

was also selling some physical discs for various

1:26

softwares, including games. While both of us were

1:28

looking into the games we wanted, a little

1:30

boy of our age came next to us,

1:33

opened up one of the discs and poked

1:35

my sister in the eye. My sister immediately

1:37

started to cry her eyes out, and my

1:39

mom rushed over to see what was happening.

1:42

She scolded the little boy after hearing what

1:44

happened, to which he got upset and went

1:46

to grab his Karen of a mother. Karen

1:48

comes over and demands to know who yelled

1:50

at her son. The two ladies

1:53

began to get into a shouting match. My

1:55

mom argued the kids had no reason to

1:57

hurt my sister like that and should be

1:59

taught better. But Karen argues, boys

2:01

will be boys and that he doesn't

2:03

know any better. She asked

2:05

my mom, why are you overreacting?

2:07

I decided enough was enough. I

2:10

did a frontal kick on the kid as

2:12

hard as I can, making him fall on

2:15

his butt. I saw there was

2:17

a nice footprint imprinted on his shirt. He

2:19

began to let out the most annoying cry

2:21

I'd ever heard. The Karen quickly rushed over

2:23

to her little turd and began shouting at

2:25

me. I looked her in the eye

2:27

and said, boys will be boys. Why

2:30

are you overreacting? She tried to argue

2:32

more, but her friend or maybe her

2:34

sister held her back and ushered her

2:36

out of the store. We went to

2:38

get burgers and fries afterwards, but my

2:40

mom also lectured me about how violence

2:42

isn't the answer. Me being a little

2:44

sprouty elementary kid didn't care and rode

2:46

that hype train for weeks. You know

2:48

what? I actually disagree with your mom.

2:51

Sometimes I feel like violence has to be the

2:53

answer. Otherwise people don't

2:55

learn lessons. Right?

2:57

And take that with a lot of context and

3:00

the vast majority of the time it's not the right

3:02

thing to do. But I feel like once in

3:04

a blue moon, sometimes that has to be

3:06

done. Otherwise no one's ever going to learn. Like there

3:08

are very, very few cases, very, very few where violence

3:10

should be the first response. Very,

3:12

very few. But in a situation like this, where

3:15

this woman is so oblivious to how

3:17

heinous her children are being, spouting

3:19

terrible excuses like boys will be boys.

3:21

And yeah, I can imagine that this

3:23

thing will continue to happen again and

3:25

again because her kids aren't being parented

3:27

correctly. They're not learning what's right and wrong.

3:29

Perhaps this flying kick, which let's be honest, probably

3:32

didn't hurt that much. Well actually sort her kids

3:34

out and we'll stop them from doing stuff like

3:36

this in the future. Like it's

3:38

educational. If a flying kick could ever be

3:40

educational, this is it. I didn't look pretty

3:42

enough four hours after my mum died. This

3:45

happened a really long time ago now, but

3:47

I've never seen anyone run away from a

3:49

situation quite so quickly. And sometimes I do

3:52

wonder what the guy thought or if he

3:54

learned his lesson. So my mum had been

3:56

terminal and was in hospice care in our

3:58

home. We knew. Is limited. However, when

4:01

I'm upset the first things that go to

4:03

hell is my sleep schedule. I slipped two

4:05

hours that nice and I hadn't been getting

4:07

much more sleep than that for the few

4:09

weeks preceding this thought she ended up passing

4:11

slightly before for the morning that this sort

4:13

of the she passed I decided I needed

4:16

campaign to get for the day so when

4:18

the nearest gas station opened up for a

4:20

to have a I headed over that for

4:22

some energy. Drinks are likely did look a

4:24

bit of a mess. It is easy to

4:26

tell when I'm tired and I was wearing

4:28

college much that was. Much bigger than my

4:31

usual size. I guess. I have my car

4:33

as have something for my clothes. I couldn't

4:35

remember which gigantic pocket or took my wallet

4:37

in one. I did that this man whose

4:40

up to a pump and a very shiny

4:42

saw either arm and a what he looked

4:44

like. Beyond that he looks a bit like

4:46

a very put together game show host. This

4:48

man says to me he was twenty feet

4:51

away. So this was who said loudly and

4:53

says. It's. A shame someone so

4:55

pretty can't improve everly day with a

4:57

smile. I burst out crying oddly crying

5:00

with the sobbing mouth thing and shaking.

5:02

I just went from starting that hoping

5:04

I hadn't left my wallet home. So

5:07

bowling and a mostly empty parking lot.

5:09

I did manage to yell something like

5:11

i'm sorry I'm not freaking pretty enough

5:14

for you when my mom dies four

5:16

hours ago to dude turned on his

5:18

heels and less didn't pump gas, didn't

5:21

go inside for coffee, didn't apologize, just

5:23

go and. His car unless I was

5:25

safe of standing in the parking lot sobbing

5:27

by women who I think was talking and

5:29

heard what the man and I said to

5:32

each other and the employee at the gas

5:34

station who were both very kinds ah man

5:36

Aragon and that size of a see the

5:38

deepest story that we've we've had so far.

5:40

Goodness me I just got a say off

5:43

the bow T. I'm so sorry to hear

5:45

about your situation and and you parents passing

5:47

but also just be in this spot and

5:49

have someone do this to a yeah. absolutely

5:52

insane let's be fair to the guy

5:54

may be had good intentions but he

5:56

really shouldn't be doing this so a

5:58

thing he shouldn't be putting your

6:00

nose in someone else's business. Especially when they

6:03

have the expression that I'm sure you had,

6:05

which was just, you know, being absolutely distraught.

6:07

It's past the point of not smiling. Surely

6:10

you look just very, very upset. I mean, from

6:12

an out-looker looking in, surely you

6:14

knew that something had gone wrong there. You weren't

6:16

just being sad or like not smiling. I don't

6:18

know. I get the feeling he came in with

6:20

like a positive attitude. But ultimately, yeah, terrible thing

6:23

to do. Don't assume things about other people. And

6:25

I hope that this guy learned his lesson. Although

6:27

I say that, a good

6:29

man would have just apologized and said,

6:31

I'm so sorry. I really had

6:34

good intentions. I just want people to be positive. It's my

6:36

bad. I'm so sorry if you're a

6:38

loss and that I did that. That's my fault. But

6:40

actually, no, he ran away, didn't he? He ran away

6:42

like a little coward. So I take it all back.

6:44

He's just a disgraceful man. There we go.

6:46

I will say though that the people that

6:48

helped you in that situation, that has restored

6:50

my faith in humanity. But once again, oh

6:53

Pete, I'm so sorry. Let's move on. I

6:55

was getting tampons, officer. So I got pulled

6:57

over one night coming back from Walmart. I

6:59

definitely deserved the ticket for speeding. But the

7:01

cop was asking for too much information. It

7:04

was late. I was cramping. I just wanted

7:06

to be home so I could stop bleeding

7:08

in my pants and eat my cookies. Of

7:10

course, the typical question. Do you know how

7:12

fast you were going? Ah, yes,

7:14

sir. 65. Where

7:16

are you coming from? Okay, fair question. I

7:18

guess it is 12 a.m. Walmart,

7:21

officer. What were you getting at Walmart?

7:24

Um, okay. Why do you need to know

7:26

that? I just want to get home, my

7:28

guy. But since you asked, I

7:30

was getting tampons. Do you want to

7:33

see them? His eyes got wide and he walked

7:35

away without saying a word. He came

7:37

back to give me my ticket and he couldn't make eye contacts.

7:40

Most expensive box of tampons I've ever bought.

7:43

However, the look on that guy's face

7:45

was priceless. Now, I

7:48

agree with you, Pete. There's questions that as

7:50

a police officer, you are obviously allowed to

7:53

ask and expected to ask. The

7:55

one about do you know how fast you're going? That's

7:57

a standard question and I think that is... is

8:00

a reasonable one. But asking what

8:02

you were buying at a shop, surely is just

8:05

not relevant information. Like at all. Why would an

8:07

officer ever need to know that? To be honest,

8:09

I think he should have just not given you

8:11

the ticket there. Just through embarrassment. Just held his

8:13

hands up and said, wow, I've

8:15

been completely done there. I'm not going to ticket you.

8:18

There you go. Enjoy your day.

8:20

But no, he still gave you a ticket.

8:22

What a little rass. Yeah, I get it.

8:24

It's the law. But come on, you have

8:26

to stop there. You deserve some form of

8:28

karma shortly. My kid can die if I

8:30

don't. I was waiting to check in at

8:32

the dentist today and some old lady started

8:34

humping and such. We're in Florida and I'm

8:36

wearing a mask. Unusual, I guess, but most

8:39

people just mind their own business and leave

8:41

me alone. There's a few however who are

8:43

pains about it. She looked at me and

8:45

asked why I was wearing that thing on my

8:47

face. Everyone knows that the

8:49

virus is gone. Why am I out

8:51

and about if I'm that bad? Now

8:54

I have breast cancer and I'm not

8:56

feeling great today. Mine's not terrible considering

8:58

my son though also has cancer and

9:00

his is bad. Grade

9:02

four brain cancer. Oh

9:05

my goodness me, OP. I'm so sorry to

9:07

hear that. I just looked at her and

9:09

said, my oncologist says cancer patients need to

9:11

be careful about dental care. Plus my kid

9:13

can die if I don't. She

9:15

turned sheet white and left me alone at

9:17

the rest of the time we were in

9:19

the waiting room together. I'm pretty sure the

9:22

dental hygienist who came out to get me

9:24

was purposely a bit louder than normal asking

9:26

about how my son was doing. Now this

9:28

is pretty similar I think to the third

9:30

post we had in this episode. Once again,

9:32

why are you sticking your nose in someone else's

9:35

business? Well, you just don't need to be doing

9:37

it. And also what is wrong with wearing a

9:39

mask? If I see someone wearing a mask out

9:41

and about these days, I say fair play to

9:44

them. Thank you. Either you are ill and

9:46

you're protecting the rest of the population from

9:48

getting your illness or you don't

9:50

want to get ill yourself. Both great things. Why

9:52

is that a negative thing? Oh, COVID

9:54

is done now. Well, first of all, it isn't like

9:57

my granny had COVID a couple of weeks ago. And

9:59

the only reason and shouldn't have it that badly

10:01

is because she's still getting vaccinated. And

10:03

secondly, okay, let people wear masks. My

10:05

wife is dead. When my son was

10:07

born, I was a stay-at-home dad for

10:09

the first year of his life. We

10:11

also lived in New York City, and

10:13

I loved taking him out into the

10:15

city to do things. Nearly every subway

10:17

ride though, I'd have some kind of

10:19

encounter with a woman or group of

10:21

women, usually boomers, who would say some

10:23

variation of giving mum the day off

10:26

or so nice to see dad babysitting

10:28

once in a while. Now, first off,

10:30

it's not possible to babysit your

10:32

own kid. That's called parenting. But

10:34

second, I was the primary caregiver.

10:36

Mum was at work, I

10:38

stayed home with the boy. It got

10:40

old real fast, but I found a

10:43

very nice trick that shut these old

10:45

biddies down real quick. Anytime someone would

10:47

ask if I was babysitting or giving

10:49

mum the day off, my face would

10:51

fall. I'd get real quiet,

10:53

and after taking a moment to compose

10:55

myself, I'd say something like, my

10:57

wife died during childbirth. Or,

11:00

my wife is currently undergoing radiation

11:02

treatment for stage four cancer. She's

11:04

at a clinic in California. I

11:06

haven't seen her in six months.

11:09

Or, my favourite, his mum abandoned us

11:11

when he was just six weeks old.

11:13

She'd been using drugs pretty heavily while

11:15

she was pregnant, and so he was

11:17

born addicted. I didn't hear from

11:19

his mother for months after she left until

11:22

one day I found out she'd overdosed and

11:24

died. This little guy is all I've

11:26

got left of her. But, we carry

11:28

on best we can. That shuts them

11:30

up real quick. Now, I will say

11:33

that perhaps given the stories we've read

11:35

earlier in this episode, this might not

11:37

be the best thing to do. I

11:39

think lying about people dying

11:41

in your family is maybe a

11:43

little bit too much, but I completely understand

11:46

why you did it, OP, and

11:48

it did have the desired effect. And again,

11:50

you don't have to deal, or you shouldn't have

11:52

to deal with this complete enough to sexism every

11:54

single day when you're just being a good dad.

11:57

So, if that's the best way that you thought about, you

11:59

know, dealing with it, with people like this, then

12:01

I hold my hands up. There you go. I

12:03

mean, if it does happen every single day, then

12:05

that must get unbelievably annoying. I mean, I will

12:07

say that saying that his mum abandoned us when

12:09

he was just six weeks old, she'd

12:12

been using drugs pretty heavily, and so

12:14

he was born addicted. I mean, imagine

12:16

hearing that. Like you've just said, oh,

12:18

it's so nice to see a man doing the

12:20

job for once, babysitting. And then you hear the

12:23

guy say that. You gotta be questioning your life

12:25

at that point. Yeah, it's had the desired effect.

12:27

Comment on my butt at work. Let me make

12:29

this uncomfortable for us both. I was

12:31

working as a front-end cashier for a

12:34

local grocery store. It was around the

12:36

time of my lunch break, so my

12:38

line was closed off after this last

12:40

customer. Grizzled, 60, 70-year-old bearded guy. I

12:43

am in my early 20s, a feminine cashier.

12:45

As I finish ringing up his purchases and

12:47

he goes to slide his card, the card

12:49

machine doesn't work. I tell him to keep

12:51

swiping until it beeps. We were mid-changed to

12:53

a new sales system, so this was a

12:56

common occurrence. I bend under my tail to

12:58

clean and organize while he's sliding his card.

13:01

As I'm bent over, his card dings. Sweet,

13:03

let's wrap this up so I can go eat. Instead.

13:07

Oh, I liked it when you did that.

13:09

I'm still under the tail. I roll my

13:12

eyes. And then, inspiration

13:14

strikes. Petty, petty inspiration. I

13:16

come up. Did

13:18

what, sir? When you bent over,

13:20

it worked. I had a confused

13:22

face. Why? Well,

13:24

it liked when you bent over. Why

13:27

would it like that I bent over?

13:29

It's a boy card. Boys like it

13:31

when girls bend over. Sorry,

13:33

I've got to say, this is the creepiest

13:35

dude I've ever seen on Reddit. What? But

13:38

why? I ask again. Well, they just

13:40

do. At this point, I'm gleeful

13:42

on the inside. But why?

13:44

I don't understand. The old

13:46

man is getting flustered. His face gets red. He

13:49

mumbles. Mom, you're making me

13:51

a little uncomfortable. I drop the dumb

13:53

act. I lean forward across the check

13:56

stand and look right into his eyes.

13:58

And how do you think I... reveal, when a

14:01

man makes an unwanted comment on my

14:03

backside while I'm at work. He has

14:05

20 shades of red, stammering. I

14:09

meant no disrespect, it was supposed to

14:11

be a compliment. I put on a

14:13

very stern face. Well it was disrespectful.

14:16

Please don't comment on women's bodies when

14:18

they work. I'm so sorry, it won't

14:20

happen again. He collects his

14:23

bag and leaves without another word. Cleanful

14:25

vindication. Good. Now maybe you won't go

14:27

and harass other people at their freaking

14:30

jobs. Well yeah, creepiest guy

14:32

ever. Literally the creepiest guy ever.

14:34

Well done OP for not just being quiet.

14:36

I mean it must be pretty horribly

14:39

uncomfortable in situations like this and you just want

14:41

to stay quiet and just say, okay fine, I'll

14:43

ring you up, go leave the store. But no,

14:45

you did the right thing. I mean, fair play.

14:47

It's very brave to do that courageous. I

14:49

can't even imagine being in this situation. Just try and

14:51

do your job and getting harassed by people 50 years

14:54

older than you. I mean by the way brother, you've

14:56

got no chance anyway. What are you doing? Go home

14:58

to your old people's home and just sit in your

15:00

chair and do the Sudoku my friend. And by the

15:02

way, I quite like Sudoku's. So that's not a slight

15:04

on people that do Sudoku's, but it is a slight

15:06

on creep. I'm

15:10

Sandra and I'm just the professional your small

15:12

business was looking for. But you didn't hire

15:14

me because you didn't use LinkedIn jobs. LinkedIn

15:16

has professionals you can't find anywhere else, including

15:19

those who aren't actively looking for a new

15:21

job but might be open to the perfect

15:23

role, like me. In a given

15:25

month over 70% of LinkedIn

15:27

users don't visit other leading job

15:29

sites. So if you're not looking

15:31

on LinkedIn, you'll miss out on

15:33

great candidates like Sandra. Start hiring

15:35

professionals like a professional. Post your

15:37

free job on linkedin.com/achieve today. I

15:42

served my sister-in-law a child's plate after she

15:44

broke multiple heirloom china plates. I caught her

15:47

breaking them on camera. My husband and I

15:49

have family dinners at our house every month

15:51

or so with our family. I have some

15:53

sets of fine china that I like to

15:55

switch out between the seasons that I've inherited

15:58

from my grandmother. I

16:00

serve dinner on these plates. My mother-in-law

16:03

compliments them every time. My sister-in-law however

16:05

has made comments to me that they're

16:07

not her style. I honestly didn't think

16:09

twice about her comments up until this

16:12

past February when one of my plates

16:14

was put in the sink broken. I

16:16

chalked it up to an accident. In

16:18

April we had another dinner. This time

16:20

my sister-in-law was carrying both her and

16:23

her boyfriend's plates of the sink and

16:25

accidentally dropped them both. Again,

16:27

no biggie at all. In

16:29

May she broke two more plates and

16:31

in June she broke a plate and

16:34

a cup. At this point I

16:36

was catching on. I brought up these concerns

16:38

to my husband and he brushed them off

16:40

as accidents. I told my mum and she

16:42

said that she thought that my sister-in-law was

16:45

doing it on purpose and she got me

16:47

a camera to put in the dining room.

16:49

In July we had dinner and I had

16:51

an opportunity to rise. My mother-in-law, sister-in-law and

16:54

her boyfriend joined us for dinner. While our

16:56

plates were still on the table, my mother-in-law

16:58

asked how my plants were doing and I

17:00

said I'd show her. I told

17:02

my husband to follow us outside so he could show

17:04

her the plant that he's growing, leaving

17:07

my sister-in-law alone with her boyfriend. When

17:09

we came back inside, five minutes later,

17:12

her plate was broken. When

17:14

they left, I pulled up the camera footage.

17:17

I saw her stand up when we walked out,

17:19

peek around the corner and then throw the plate

17:21

on the ground. I kept this

17:23

video to myself. All I'll

17:25

say at this point is, are you sure she's

17:28

not Greek and it's just tradition? I just.

17:30

This brings me to this past weekend. We

17:33

had our family dinner and we were joined

17:35

by my in-laws, my sister-in-law and her boyfriend

17:37

as well as my parents, siblings and niece.

17:40

I served everyone, saving evil

17:42

sister-in-law for last. I

17:44

brought her food out on a child's plate

17:46

with a sippy cup and got those kids

17:49

silverware with the plastic handles. She

17:51

looked at me confused and said, I think

17:53

you mixed my plate up with your niece's plate.

17:55

And I said, no, my

17:58

niece is responsible enough to eat on a table.

18:00

grown ups plate. If you're gonna

18:02

act like a child in my home, I'm

18:04

gonna treat you like a child in my

18:06

home." She tried to play coy, but I

18:08

had my iPad ready and I played the

18:10

video to everyone at the table. She

18:13

started sobbing. She swamped the kids play off

18:15

the table and stormed out. My in-laws both

18:17

apologized and offered to pay for replacement plays,

18:19

but I told them not to worry about

18:21

it. Despite this, we still had a nice

18:23

time. When everyone left, my husband told me

18:26

I was out of line and cruel. But

18:28

I told him that this has been happening

18:30

for months and I've told him it was

18:32

bothering me multiple times. It's Wednesday,

18:34

he's still being a little cold to

18:37

me and I also got a text

18:39

from my sister in-laws boyfriend asking me

18:41

if I'd apologize to her because I

18:43

really embarrassed her. I sent

18:45

him the video again and he left me

18:47

unread. My husband just called me

18:49

to ask if I was taunting her boyfriend

18:52

because his sister called him crying that I

18:54

was. Now somebody has asked in the comments

18:56

down below, inquiring minds need to know why

18:58

would she break your plates? Because she doesn't

19:01

like to eat off something that's not her

19:03

style? Yeah, I agree. That is one of

19:05

the weirdest things I've ever heard. How can

19:07

you have a style of plate that you

19:09

like or dislike at someone else's house? I

19:12

hope you replied. I would like to know

19:14

too. I'll probably never get a straight

19:16

answer though. My husband apologized and now

19:18

we're bouncing back and forth off of

19:20

the wise and we're kind of circling

19:22

around to the boyfriend. My in-laws say

19:24

that's when they've noticed a behavior change.

19:26

She's gotten into trouble since dating him.

19:29

They act like teenagers. My

19:31

husband is saying exactly what I was

19:33

thinking was happening. He's trying not to

19:35

blame or pin anything on her because

19:37

she has been behaving differently over the

19:39

past few months. She got caught shoplifting

19:41

and her boyfriend also got caught stealing

19:43

and went to jail. No diagnosis that

19:45

I've ever known of, but the family

19:47

is now saying that could be a

19:49

deeper issue or possibly a substance issue.

19:51

Someone else also commented, I'm glad that

19:53

your husband apologized. What made him come

19:55

around? If I may ask, I'll be

19:57

said my mother-in-law, at least I'm assuming.

20:00

She texted me that they were on the phone

20:02

when he was on his way home. That's my

20:04

bet. I really want to talk to him about

20:06

all of this but I don't want to overwhelm

20:08

him, especially because he's been a little distant. I

20:11

think the whole thing is overwhelming for him. He

20:13

told me his sister called him four times. I'm

20:15

keeping it low key for now but I'm going

20:17

to try and get some answers about the plate

20:19

breaking. Alright then there we go, quite a long

20:22

story. The good thing about r slash traumatize them

20:24

back is that you do get some short fun

20:27

posts, I don't know if fun is the best word there but

20:29

you know snappy little ones that you don't have

20:31

to concentrate on too much and then you get

20:33

some longer more in-depth ones like this. I just

20:35

want to know what is wrong with the plates.

20:37

I really do. How can the style of a

20:39

plate have that much of an effect on someone's

20:41

life to the extent that they want to break

20:43

them? I mean absolutely insane. Shout out

20:45

your mother-in-law by the way. Like what a

20:48

goat saying you know what I know what's

20:50

going on here. Here's a secret camera. Set

20:52

it up. Let's watch this back together. Oh

20:54

actually it was your mum wasn't it but

20:56

still I feel like your mum and your

20:58

mother-in-law both did well here. Is

21:00

sister-in-law less so? I do kind of feel

21:03

like your husband though it's like a lot

21:05

of convincing here. When she'd broken six or

21:07

seven pieces of heirloom china, yep

21:10

apparently according to him you're in

21:12

the wrong for embarrassing her. Why is the

21:14

logic there my friends? I mean yes it's

21:16

good that he's come around but it should

21:18

not have taken him that long. Mother tries

21:20

to spank teenager and regrets it. I'm well

21:22

into being an adult today and this is

21:24

a story of how I stopped my mother

21:26

from ever spanking me again. My mother

21:28

has always been fond of physical punishment. She's a

21:30

pusher, slapper, hit with random objects her

21:32

and a spanker. I got spanked a

21:35

lot for things I did and things

21:37

that she perceived I did. She spanked

21:39

me well into being a teenager as

21:41

well. I was 16 or 17 at

21:43

the time and my wet towel from

21:45

showering was on my bed. My mother

21:47

always lost her mind over not hanging

21:49

a towel properly and frankly this was

21:51

a mistake I made often. She

21:54

came in while I was dressing, saw

21:56

the towel and she immediately grabbed and

21:58

spun me to start Spanking. Hey,

22:00

I'll never know what devil took over, but

22:02

it was a devil that had been needed.

22:04

Much sooner in my life is set of

22:06

crying out in pain. I said. I can't

22:09

quite believe I'm about to do the skies,

22:11

but I will. I'm going to give it

22:13

my own. Oh

22:16

oh. She. Was

22:18

views of us who sort of small

22:20

also sponsors that. My response was well

22:22

as the so many spankings I was

22:24

wondering when I was thought to enjoy

22:27

it. She looks horrified. Left my room

22:29

and I cool down the hallway. Come

22:31

back. We could say correlationship for the

22:34

next level with i was never spanx

22:36

again. I cannot believe I've just read

22:38

that that is obviously going to be

22:40

the conclusion of this episode immediately. Well,

22:43

despite the five, I just as he

22:45

cannot believe watches done that. I'm

22:47

on. I'm I'm really sorry for any family

22:50

members of are watching this or listen to.

22:52

This is probably my last moment in my

22:54

life so far. Advice: The perfect example of

22:56

Off Plus traumatized them back. Your mom now

22:59

surely is living with that trauma. In

23:01

the back of my mind is she might

23:03

have thought you were joking long term but

23:05

is always gonna have those lingering doubts. Did

23:08

my son enjoy sexually? Me: Spanking

23:10

him makes you think pretty litter has still

23:12

my daughter's I'll still he backs. This was

23:14

a few years ago. I think twenty seen

23:16

nineteen, freak over the any right Some a

23:19

bit fuzzy on ages, but I think my

23:21

sister and I I am a woman by

23:23

the way with thirty or thirty one and

23:25

twenty one of twenty three respectively. But basically

23:28

we were followed by a strange man we

23:30

were on holiday at the time and be

23:32

less or mom and pop to go and

23:34

grab a couple of keep things from a

23:37

sharp as a go play with the local

23:39

stray cat. who lived that one of

23:41

the squares she sits been adopted by

23:43

a family is a place have been

23:45

going to since we're both babies so

23:47

we know our way around blindfolded and

23:49

we generally feel safe in the area

23:51

that we were in now have looked

23:53

back to the pop we realized we

23:55

were being followed by somebody be didn't

23:57

know he wasn't being sauces about said

23:59

so We walked a different way to try and

24:01

throw him off before going back to our mum. As

24:04

you may imagine, this was extremely alarming to

24:06

us, particularly because we were in a foreign

24:08

country. Our friend who owned the pub offered

24:10

to call the police on the guy, since

24:13

he was still obviously loitering around the corner.

24:15

My mum though had a different approach.

24:18

She was a formidable woman who didn't

24:20

take any nonsense and was fiercely protective

24:22

of her daughters. If someone like a

24:24

Karen tried to start an argument with

24:26

her, as once happened on a flight,

24:28

they would quickly regret it because she

24:30

always won. She once quit

24:32

her job after one too many insights from

24:34

her boss, knowing her boss couldn't function without

24:36

her and would come begging her to come

24:38

back and she was right. So

24:41

my mum decided to stalk this strange

24:43

man back. My sister and

24:45

I decided to follow along because it

24:47

sounded intriguing. We watched as

24:49

he tried to hide behind trees. It

24:52

did not work and eventually got so

24:54

uncomfortable with my mum's relentless pursuit that

24:56

he fled across the main road and

24:59

she pursued him even then until he

25:01

was finally gone from our sights. That

25:04

is amazing. I mean this is just brilliant. It's

25:07

absolutely comical in my mind. I just want to

25:09

see this happen. This has to be turned into

25:11

some sort of skit or something or some

25:13

sort of episode on a comedy show. I mean

25:15

it's just so good. What a great way to

25:18

just completely unnerve someone and hopefully make

25:20

this man realise that what he's doing

25:22

is so creepy. I mean it's also

25:24

illegal but just mainly just so weird.

25:27

What is going on? Your mum by the way? Absolutely

25:30

legendary. I hope she haunts this man for

25:32

a very long time and to be honest

25:34

I mean might as well keep up the

25:36

stalking. It's so funny. Deceased father's girlfriend is

25:39

going down. So this will be

25:41

a developing story over the next few months. Just

25:43

getting started. My father passed away

25:46

three weeks ago. He was a

25:48

hard worker. It's a real estate and a

25:50

man of means. He has

25:52

seven properties, five cars and liquid

25:54

cash. His girlfriend that chased

25:56

him down nine years ago was his carer

25:58

until death. In the last

26:01

2-3 years, she began to isolate my father

26:03

from his 4 kids. She would attempt to

26:05

keep us out of the home and stand

26:07

at the door and say he was sick.

26:09

We would push our way in and he

26:11

never rejected us. I think we all know

26:13

what she is trying to do here. November

26:15

4th last year, I went out of the

26:17

blue to his house and he was lying

26:19

there, dying. I took a video. He

26:22

was septic and wouldn't have made it through the night

26:24

if I hadn't found him. I sent him

26:26

to the hospital. He went back again a

26:28

week later and was placed on hospice.

26:30

This female dog I've since found out,

26:32

deleted my number from his phone. She

26:35

then got him a new phone about

26:37

2 weeks before he died to confuse

26:39

him so he wouldn't know how to

26:41

use it. He asked my siblings

26:43

and son for my number 3 times to

26:45

call me before death

26:48

and he never called. Oh my gosh.

26:50

I suspect that she kept him from

26:52

calling. I must fill in this blank.

26:54

She drove a wedge between us and

26:56

talked to me like a dog from

26:58

November to December when I went no

27:00

contact. I sent a letter expressing my

27:03

hurt and that I loved him. She presented

27:05

an electronic will leaving her

27:08

everything. Now, e-wills are not

27:10

valid in my state. She sent a text

27:12

from his phone to hers back in January

27:14

stating that he was leaving her 2 homes.

27:16

It was in broken English

27:18

so I know it was her. Dad doesn't

27:21

even text. He didn't know how. So,

27:23

she is losing everything. Her car,

27:25

the house they shared, everything.

27:28

I'm even thinking of suing her

27:30

for mental and emotional abuse of

27:32

my dad. The car he bought

27:35

for her is in his name.

27:37

That's gone. Oh and she also

27:39

ranted over his car skit at

27:41

his children and grandchildren all on

27:43

video. I'm going to ruin her.

27:45

Wow. Also, a quick update. We're

27:47

getting temporary orders of administration over

27:50

the estate and filing eviction tomorrow

27:52

and we confiscate vehicles this Sunday

27:54

with Sheriff Escort winning. Well, that

27:56

is amazing to hear. Wow. I

27:59

mean, the ending for that is great that is great

28:01

to see that she's you know losing everything

28:03

it's just a terrible terrible case isn't it

28:05

it's a terrible story ultimately though i do

28:07

feel like is there not some form of

28:09

like attempted murder charge here that you could

28:11

be going for i know you probably don't

28:13

want to do this and it's horribly morbid

28:16

and it's so sad and just very very

28:18

you know distressing for you and the family

28:20

but if you found your dad pretty much

28:22

dying in front of you well you said

28:24

dying like he was septic and

28:26

it's because of her lack of looking after him

28:28

that's the reason why he's in that position it

28:30

has to be then is there not a charge

28:33

or a potential case for attempted murder there i

28:35

don't know what you've got so far the the

28:37

temporary orders of administration over the estate the fact

28:39

that she's going to be in a much worse

28:41

place after your dad's death than she was before

28:43

despite the fact that yeah she clearly

28:45

was just going for all his money and property

28:47

in the first place i think there's more there's

28:49

more you could do here i don't know it's

28:51

up to you but i do feel like there's

28:53

more that could be done let me know in

28:55

the comments down below is attempted murder not on

28:58

the cards here i'm not sure let me know

29:00

annoying middle school attendance lady years ago i called

29:02

the middle school attendance office to have my two

29:04

boys sent to the office so i could take

29:06

them out of school for a family emergency the

29:08

attendance lady was not happy about this and went

29:10

on a rant about how i should have sent

29:12

a note with them a day or two in

29:14

advance and then she would have had them

29:16

in the office now she has to send a student

29:19

to each of their rooms to get them and this

29:21

could take 30 minutes it's

29:23

a very old building with no intercoms to each

29:25

room sir do you understand what

29:27

an inconvenience it is for me to stop

29:29

my students from doing an assigned task and

29:31

have them go and get your children i

29:34

was trying to interject but she wasn't having

29:36

it she continued on and on about how

29:38

all of the protocols are in the student

29:40

handbook if i would have just taken the

29:43

time to read it at the beginning of

29:45

the year she then finally stopped

29:47

long enough for me to speak mom

29:49

you're absolutely right i'm sorry i didn't

29:51

send a note with the boys now

29:53

unfortunately their grandfather didn't give me advanced

29:56

notice that he was going to have

29:58

a heart attack this morning The

30:00

surgeon performing his open heart surgery didn't

30:03

give us any advanced notice either. We

30:05

have to leave town immediately. The

30:08

stuttering and awkwardness was amazing. Honestly,

30:10

it was hysterical and a great

30:12

stress reducer while he was in

30:15

surgery. My dad loves

30:17

that story. Oh so he survived.

30:20

That is even better. Yeah, the word that springs to

30:22

mind here is just jobsworth. As I said, I'm very

30:24

happy that your granddad wasn't actually dead. I thought he

30:26

was and then I thought it was going to be

30:28

an extremely sarcastic response from your dad, something

30:30

along the lines of, well, unfortunately, we

30:33

didn't get advanced notice that my dad was

30:35

about to die. But at least he's still

30:37

alive and hopefully he could even laugh at

30:39

this story. Absolutely insane. I mean, is it

30:41

that hard to go and get students out

30:43

of a classroom? Also just send

30:45

an email. That's what we did at my school. The

30:47

teachers got an email and they were on their computers

30:50

anyway. Oh yeah, just send the kid around to go

30:52

and get them. It's not that hard. And

30:54

in familial emergencies like this, obviously it has

30:56

to be done. You just haven't had the

30:59

right D yet. So I, a

31:01

19 year old woman, only date fem

31:03

folks. Sexual tastes are a bit broader.

31:06

Much of the support of most of my

31:08

family and all of my friends. The

31:10

friends of my friends? Not so much. One

31:13

of those friends, unfortunately, had a

31:15

Klingon in their circle. A jerk

31:17

we'll call Bill. Bill has certain

31:19

views on relationships and women and

31:22

is not very happy with queer people. He

31:24

likes to make small comments on the fact

31:26

that I only date women and even more

31:28

so that I'm dating two people. Oh, the

31:30

horror. And only one is

31:33

a woman. The other being a fem

31:35

boy. Now he got a bit drunk one night and

31:37

his comments were getting a little bit aggressive. I

31:39

was cuddling with one of my partners

31:41

and exchanging small kisses, but eventually he

31:43

said two things that everyone should hate.

31:46

The classic of you just haven't had the

31:48

right D yet as well as a new

31:51

one I'd never heard. You just need

31:53

to try it once. I volunteer. Oh

31:55

my gosh. My partner tried to stop me

31:57

because she could see I was getting mad.

32:00

But it was too late. Someone told me

32:02

that once, I said. Then he R

32:04

worded me so I could try it

32:06

once. Now I can't trust

32:08

anyone who presents masculine like you. He

32:10

got very defensive over this, acting like

32:13

I was accusing him of something and

32:15

carrying on. He was promptly

32:17

asked to leave by the friend he was

32:19

connected to and I haven't heard or seen

32:21

him in two months. So, hurrah. Yeah, I

32:23

mean this one is just crazy. Absolutely

32:27

crazy. Who in their right mind would ever say

32:29

something like this? It's just insane. What are you

32:31

supposed to even do in response to this? I

32:33

mean, you didn't have to say what you did

32:35

but I'm kind of thankful that you did. Although,

32:38

it doesn't even seem like he learned from that.

32:40

He just, as you say, got defensive and then

32:42

carried on. So really, I mean, did he actually

32:44

learn from that at all? Probably not. Which is

32:46

mad but yeah, crazy. Although, I

32:48

guess if you haven't seen him in two months that

32:51

is a good thing but it shouldn't take you having

32:53

to say something like this to him for him to

32:55

not be around anymore. Also, I mean, your friend who

32:58

is his friend, who brought him in the first

33:00

place, surely should have realised he's just a creepy

33:02

guy. I mean, unless he's just not

33:04

a good friend in the first place, you should

33:06

expect your friends to have good friends, I reckon.

33:08

I mean, that's not up to you but if

33:10

they are in your same or similar circles, you

33:13

can't be expecting someone like this to be knocking about.

33:15

I mean, it's just disgraceful. I mean, you could also

33:17

argue that, you know, how does Bill not

33:19

know that he's gay? He just needs a good

33:22

big D, for

33:24

want of a better phrase, and it'll

33:26

magically change him. Has he tried it?

33:29

No. How could he possibly know? Customer

33:31

asks, I have cancer. What's wrong with

33:33

you? So, I put my wig on

33:35

the counter. Back during the mask mandate,

33:37

I worked in one of the big

33:39

brand jewellery stores, commonly found in shopping

33:41

malls. On this boring day, it was

33:43

only me and my assistant manager. We'll

33:45

call her Lisa working. In the afternoon,

33:47

a man, probably in his mid-30s, comes

33:50

into the store. I do my usual greeting

33:53

and get ready to work with him, when Lisa

33:55

clears her throat and pulls on her mask a

33:57

bit. I didn't even realise that the man wasn't

33:59

wearing a mask. wearing a face covering, so I

34:01

politely offer him a mask so I can

34:03

help him. Of course, he goes on a

34:05

rant, saying he knows his rights and the

34:07

usual mumbo-jumbo we've all heard. I

34:09

tell him I'm sorry but I have a weak

34:12

immune system and I can't risk getting sick. This

34:14

earns me a grunt and him snapping at me,

34:16

I have cancer, what's wrong with

34:18

you? I give him no answer and

34:20

take my wig off and drop it

34:23

on the counter in front of me.

34:25

He sputters and tries to apologise, saying

34:27

he didn't know. He then decides to

34:29

tell my co-worker and me, both early

34:31

20s females, about his testicular cancer, talking

34:33

way too much about his naughty bits

34:35

for our liking. I guess that

34:38

was his way of trying to defuse the awkwardness

34:40

and shame. I've walked to the other

34:42

side of the store and my co-worker dealt with him.

34:45

At some point, I heard him say

34:47

to her, I'd asked what kind of

34:49

cancer she has, but Nalisa and I

34:51

share a knowing look. I never actually

34:53

said I had cancer. My hair

34:55

fell out when I was a kid and never grew back.

34:58

That's all it is. No sickness, just

35:00

my immune system being stupid. Oh wow.

35:02

Eventually, he buys an engagement ring and

35:05

scurries away. I've honestly never seen a

35:07

customer walk out so fast paced. Lisa

35:09

and I crack up laughing once we

35:12

thought he was out of hearing range

35:14

before going back to being bored on

35:16

a slow day. That is

35:19

actually phenomenal. It's a great thing that you don't

35:21

have cancer, but also the fact that you slightly

35:23

inferred that you did while not actually saying

35:25

that you did and him thinking, oh my God,

35:28

what have I done? It's so good as well.

35:30

I think just to clarify what I mean here,

35:32

it's a good thing that you don't have cancer.

35:34

That's obviously a flat good thing, but

35:36

I think it's also a good thing that you made

35:39

him think that you did have cancer despite the fact

35:41

that he didn't lie about having cancer, which would have

35:43

been weird. Him thinking that you

35:45

have cancer, I think is a good thing

35:47

and should in theory, although I've said this

35:49

with like everyone else in this video really,

35:52

should in theory make him think twice about

35:54

doing something similar in the future. But I

35:56

don't know guys, I mean, I'm just looking through

35:58

this again. He scurries away and it's obviously

36:00

embarrassed. Will he do something like this in

36:02

the future? I don't know. I also kind

36:04

of do feel a bit bad for him.

36:06

Like if he has cancer then it's just

36:08

a terrible thing to have obviously. So let's

36:10

cut him a little bit of slack. He's

36:12

probably going through a lot right now but

36:14

it doesn't excuse you know being really

36:17

rude. And it also doesn't excuse not wearing a mask.

36:19

I mean surely you can still wear a mask when

36:21

you have cancer. If anything wouldn't you still

36:23

want to have a mask on? I mean more

36:25

than ever so you don't get you know you're

36:27

not at risk of getting an infection which

36:30

would make your immune system even weaker

36:32

right? Your friendly neighborhood cripple is back.

36:34

This just happened today and I'm still

36:36

giddy with glee. Hello I'm your friendly

36:38

neighborhood cripple. For those of you just

36:40

joining us I a 50 year

36:43

old woman am paralyzed from the bra band

36:45

down due to a catastrophic illness. It's been

36:47

almost 10 years since I was paralyzed and

36:50

I have tons of stories which I share

36:52

here for your enjoyment. To mitigate

36:54

my disability and help me get around in

36:56

the world I have a power wheelchair and

36:58

a service dog. I'm not exaggerating at all

37:01

when I say the trash that comes my

37:03

way could fill a 3 month supply of

37:05

my colosse me bags and then some. For

37:07

our newcomers I am the way I am

37:09

as I grew up in a suburb of

37:11

NYC was bullied constantly my entire school life

37:14

and grew up with an older brother. He and

37:17

his friends made my life a living heck

37:19

until I honed my sarcasm, sharpened my tongue

37:21

and learned to think quickly to give as

37:23

good as I got. Usually I

37:25

ended up turning it around and making it worse

37:27

for the person who insulted me. In

37:29

addition to all of this my

37:31

husband and I recently moved from our

37:34

lovely New York adjacent suburb to North

37:36

Carolina. It's a lower cost of

37:38

living, I still get excellent medical care, we've

37:40

got a house that's fully accessible in a

37:43

lovely neighborhood etc. People here say

37:45

things to you in a sickly sweet or

37:47

very kind voice but what sounds like a

37:49

compliment is often an insult. Now that you're

37:51

all caught up on to the story. Today

37:53

we went to Costco, my hair is a

37:56

gorgeous dark purple and as my service dog

37:58

Kath and I are wheeling around I see

38:00

a shirt I like. I go to look

38:02

at said shirt. It was one of those

38:04

super soft casual cuts in an amazing shade

38:06

of green. A younger woman, maybe

38:08

mid thirties, looks at me and nods

38:10

politely. I smile and nod back

38:13

and begin checking out the shirt that caught

38:15

my eye. She's next to me, also checking

38:17

out the shirt, just in a different colour.

38:20

She says to me, you are so brave

38:22

to have purple hair. I could

38:24

never do something like that. In

38:27

that, oh bless your heart tone. Oh

38:30

no, I replied. What's brave? Is

38:32

a woman your age wearing that?

38:35

A vague gesture to her clothes. What's

38:37

wrong with it? Well, those jeans are

38:40

definitely a choice. Plus open toed shoes

38:42

when your feet look like that. I

38:45

wish I had half your confidence. You'll have a

38:47

great day. At that point I decided against the

38:49

shirt since the shade of green made me look

38:51

like a shade of corpse that was just not

38:54

flattering. Not that any shade of corpse

38:56

is flattering, but this was the least

38:58

flattering shade of corpse I'd ever seen.

39:00

Cap and I zoomed off to find

39:02

my lost husband, leaving her to stare

39:04

at her perfectly nice jeans and perfectly

39:06

normal feet in perfectly normal open toed

39:09

shoes. I wonder what the frick was

39:11

wrong with them and probably wonder why

39:13

a woman in her mid thirties shouldn't

39:15

be wearing perfectly nice jeans with a

39:17

perfectly nice sweater and perfectly normal open

39:19

toed shoes. I'll be living rent free

39:21

in her head for a long, long

39:23

time. Until next time, because there's always

39:26

a next time, your friendly

39:28

neighbourhood cripple. Now just some

39:30

more info to add. Several people have raised

39:32

the question if she was actually complimenting me.

39:34

Sadly friends, she wasn't. Her tone

39:36

of voice was the one reserved

39:39

for very stupid dogs, very stupid

39:41

husbands or very ugly babies. That

39:43

saturn, false sweet tone that indicates disdain

39:45

behind what would otherwise be complimentary words.

39:48

Like calling your dog brilliant because they

39:50

started themselves awake by farting and give

39:52

their butt a look like it betrayed

39:55

them. I am guilty of

39:57

that last one. Peggy does it regularly and

39:59

everyone It's hilarious. Yeah, that is

40:01

fair enough. I was kind of thinking are

40:03

you sure she's not actually complementing you? But

40:06

I guess when you're in real life when you

40:08

hear the tone you would know if someone's being

40:10

sarcastic Alright guys, let me know in the comments

40:13

down below because this is the first time I've

40:15

ever come across this user I've got to say

40:17

from the style of writing and just the general

40:19

tone I love this person and I want to

40:21

read more stories from them about similar sort of

40:23

things that have happened I can't quite believe I've

40:25

not seen a story from OP before but I

40:27

don't think I have Comment down below.

40:30

Do you want to see more from this user

40:32

because I reckon I'm not out of look I

40:34

reckon they've got loads and loads of posts that

40:36

are probably equally as funny as this one I

40:38

mean on this one just well done. Well

40:40

done. It's unnecessary comment from anyone to

40:42

ever comment on someone else's Appearance

40:45

or style when they're just

40:47

strangers. So yeah, you just shut

40:49

her up instantly It sounded like you just clap back

40:51

right away and you're so right It

40:54

makes it better that she's wearing normal stuff That

40:56

probably looks pretty nice because now she's gonna be

40:58

second-guessing probably her entire wardrobe and thinking. Oh my

41:00

god What does she see? What can I not

41:03

see? Why why does she say this about my

41:05

jeans when they're actually completely normal? It's

41:07

so good as you said

41:09

great phrase rent free grab my booty.

41:11

Have fun blowing your nose This one

41:13

happened just an hour ago. I'm still

41:15

shaking a bit. But dang am I

41:17

proud of myself I was at

41:20

the wall of Mars my first mistake and I was

41:22

bent over looking at cross stuff this random

41:24

man late 30s Early 40s decided it

41:26

would be a great idea to grab

41:28

a fistful of my butts Of course,

41:30

the dude does not know I'm a

41:32

martial artist So I was very surprised

41:34

when I rabbit punched him square in

41:36

the nose He grabs his face

41:38

and starts cussing me out. I

41:40

cock my fist back and shout and I'll do it

41:42

again He scurried off still

41:45

cussing up a storm. No, I didn't contact

41:47

the police Not my first rodeo so I

41:49

know they wouldn't do anything. I

41:51

did tell a manager I'm familiar with what happened

41:53

so they could keep an eye out. Why am

41:55

I so proud of myself? I didn't cry I

41:58

even finished my errands before coming home I

42:00

was not gonna let a random jerk ruin

42:02

my day. There we go If you weren't

42:05

sure what r slash traumatized them back was

42:07

all about well now, you know, this is

42:09

brilliant He assaulted you first you get to

42:11

do whatever you want to him afterwards in

42:13

my opinion Yeah, I know like legally

42:15

you assaulted him back, but is that not self-defense of

42:17

some sort? I mean you can't get away with this

42:20

and now he's not gonna do it again because of

42:22

you So you've done amazingly for yourself and for other

42:24

women that this would probably have happened to in the

42:26

future Amazing how a PE teacher

42:28

put my sister in the hospital So this

42:30

is about my older sister who I'll be

42:32

calling Jane for this post now Jane has

42:34

asthma She's had it ever since she was

42:37

a baby and gets it pretty badly We've

42:39

had to spend more than one Christmas in the

42:41

hospital because she had pneumonia and the school was

42:43

very well aware that she had asthma She

42:46

always had an inhaler on her and the

42:48

front office had a nebulizer for emergencies And

42:50

there were multiple doctor notes on file limiting

42:52

what she could do. She couldn't play a

42:54

wind instrument in band class She was allowed

42:56

to not sing in choir if she was

42:58

having trouble and if teachers ever took students

43:00

outside while the weather was bad She

43:02

was allowed to opt out She was in middle

43:04

school when this happened and all of the teachers

43:06

got the memo except for the PE teacher Not

43:09

only did this female dog not believe

43:12

that Jane had asthma, but she also

43:14

didn't believe that asthma was real She

43:16

thought it was just something that kids come up with so

43:19

they don't have to exercise What

43:21

all right, I've got it interjected guys

43:23

now I would typically say that I

43:25

cannot believe this right this seems unbelievable

43:27

that a PE teacher a qualified PE

43:29

teacher Thinks that asthma isn't

43:31

real But maybe they're

43:33

genuinely are PE teachers out

43:35

there that just like love

43:37

fitness and exercise So much to

43:40

the extent that they think that any kid that

43:42

says they have asthma is actually just making it

43:44

up So I guess I'm not saying that this

43:46

woman necessarily thinks that asthma doesn't exist or hasn't

43:48

been trained To know what asthma is

43:51

but maybe she just thinks it's an excuse

43:53

that kids always use. Okay, let's get back

43:55

to the story This caused a few problems

43:57

and Jane had been sent the principal's office

43:59

more than one once for trying to opt

44:01

out of gym class. She wouldn't get in

44:03

trouble, but being reprimanded in front of the

44:05

entire class and getting sent to the office

44:08

is mortifying for a middle schooler, and she

44:10

was sick of it. Our story takes place

44:12

in the middle of winter just before winter

44:14

break. We live in a cold climate, and

44:16

our winters get wet and cold, neither of

44:19

which are great for asthmatic lungs. On

44:21

this day, the teacher had them running the mile,

44:23

but instead of having them run laps in the

44:26

gym, she insisted they go outside, and kids would

44:28

get in trouble for taking their coats because they

44:30

had to be in uniform. Jane tells the teacher

44:32

she can't run outside in this weather, and the

44:35

teacher tells her that if she refuses to run,

44:37

then she'll be sent to the office. Now,

44:39

if you remember, middle schooler's sense of

44:42

self-preservation is non-existent, and Jane has balls

44:44

so big that they impair her walking,

44:46

so she decided enough was enough. This

44:48

school had a track that was a

44:51

quarter mile long, but for whatever reason, the

44:53

teachers never had kids run the mile on

44:55

it. Instead, they had the kids run around

44:57

the block that the school was on twice,

44:59

while the teacher stood at the starting point

45:01

with a stopwatch. What Jane knew, and the

45:03

teacher didn't, was that at the same time

45:05

Jane had gym class, our mum would go

45:07

to kindergarten to pick up our younger sister.

45:09

She'd seen Jane running the mile on nice

45:11

days earlier in the year, and gave her

45:13

a little honk and a wave. So imagine,

45:15

if you will, my mother, a CNA going

45:18

to pick up her baby, only

45:20

to spot her eldest daughter running around outside

45:22

with no coat on in the middle of

45:24

winter, struggling not to slip on ice in

45:26

certain spots. Mum was annoyed. She

45:28

pulled up next to Jane to ask what

45:30

the heck she was doing, and Jane told

45:33

her through chattering teeth that the teacher was

45:35

forcing her to run the mile outside with

45:37

the other girls. Mum told Jane

45:39

to get into the car and drove around

45:41

to the front entrance to rush her into

45:43

the office, demanding they call an ambulance and

45:46

get her a nebulizer for a breathing treatment,

45:48

and something to warm her up and get

45:50

her circulation back, as she was literally turning

45:53

blue. Jane was hospitalised. The school had to

45:55

pay for the ambulance ride, pay for the

45:57

nebulizer medication, and pay for the hospital stay.

46:00

Mum chewed out the principal and the teacher,

46:02

then the doctor did the same. The teacher

46:04

was suspended and put under review, but for

46:06

whatever reason, she didn't get fired. However,

46:09

she did learn not to ignore doctors notes

46:11

in kids files, and there was another incident

46:13

like that. In the 12 years, it took

46:16

for all of our siblings to finish middle

46:18

school. And Jane continues to

46:20

have the largest balls I've ever seen. Why

46:22

is it always PE teachers guys? That's my

46:24

question. It, it, you just hear about them

46:27

a lot. Mum's had one bad PE teacher

46:29

who just forces kids to do things that

46:31

they don't want to do, just for no

46:34

real reason. And I feel

46:36

like I've seen at least two or three

46:38

stories like this, or similar to this, over

46:40

the years. Now, yes, not necessarily have they

46:42

had this level of revenge, which was excellent

46:44

to see. But, you know,

46:46

on like, entitled parents or entitled people, you

46:49

hear about teachers like this, PE teachers, to

46:51

be precise. It's pretty crazy that she wasn't

46:53

fired, by the way. But you said at

46:55

the end there that she did learn not

46:57

to ignore doctors notes in kids files. Is

47:00

that not the number one thing to do

47:02

as any teacher, is read those

47:04

files and know exactly what is in them? Surely.

47:08

But yes, the point is to educate, but first and foremost,

47:10

it's to keep the child alive, isn't it? Like

47:12

when they're in your company, you are their

47:15

carer. That's insane. But yeah, shout out Jane for

47:17

saying, you know what, I'm done with this. I'm

47:19

just, I'm just not doing this again. And

47:22

shout out to you mum as well.

47:24

You've lost weight. You look great. My

47:26

backstory, about seven years ago, I was

47:28

forcibly moved out by my father. And

47:30

after my mother tried to guilt trip me into

47:33

dropping the associated court case, we went no contact

47:35

for a while. She and I are

47:37

on good terms now, but it took a while for us

47:39

to get comfortable meeting up again. And

47:41

this interaction occurred during our first meetup

47:43

after that point. Because of how much

47:46

this had affected my life, I've been between

47:48

jobs for a while and was severely struggling

47:50

with the poverty of very abruptly having to

47:52

fend for myself on top of the mental

47:54

issues caused by the incident. Suffice to say,

47:56

I was really struggling to have regular meals

47:59

and was definitely not at 100%. It

48:01

had been close to a year since she'd

48:03

last seen me and due to this intense

48:05

poverty I'd naturally lost close to 30kg, 66lbs

48:07

since then. I was slightly overweight before

48:13

and was now just slightly underweight. Don't

48:15

worry, I wasn't skin and bones. My

48:17

mum was trying to be friendly and I'm

48:20

sure she did sincerely mean it as a

48:22

compliment when she said, you've lost weight, you

48:24

look great! as she has also struggled with

48:26

her weight a bit. However, I was still

48:28

quite bitter and uncomfortable with seeing her again

48:30

after the start she took and it

48:33

wasn't exactly intentional weight loss. So

48:35

I looked her in the eyes and said, thank

48:38

you, it's from the malnutrition since I can't

48:40

afford to eat properly. Guys, she went freaking

48:42

silent. I don't think she looked me in

48:44

the eye for the rest of the meet

48:46

up. I would never be so bluntly rude

48:48

to her now since we're on good terms

48:50

but she really needed the reminder of how

48:52

bad my life had become because of the

48:55

incident. At least she bought me

48:57

an f ton of groceries afterwards because of it

48:59

so I had some proper food again for a

49:01

while. Yeah, I mean that's a good thing I

49:03

guess but she can't just

49:05

buy some groceries for you in the short

49:08

term and that makes up for everything that's

49:10

happened in the long term. I don't know

49:12

what the incident was, obviously we don't know

49:15

what forcibly moved out by your father means

49:17

but yeah, depending on the age this was

49:19

or what happened, I mean who knows if

49:21

it's legal or not but yeah, losing close

49:24

to 30 kilograms by not being able

49:26

to get the sufficient food that you

49:28

need, whether that's the quantity or quality

49:30

or whatever or other stuff

49:32

from the emotional abuse perhaps of what

49:34

happened. 30 kilograms is nuts,

49:36

giving you a slightly overweight before.

49:39

Wow, it's not as if you were 200kg and

49:42

lost 30 and you're still overweight.

49:45

Yeah, mental but I'm glad that

49:47

she now probably realises what

49:49

has happened to you but then surely she

49:52

should have realised that anyway. Shouting I'm 15

49:54

you pedo and every guy who harasses me

49:56

on behalf of younger me. I just found

49:58

this sub. and wow I love it. I

50:00

thought I'd share something I've been doing for

50:02

a few years which I think this sub

50:04

will appreciate. I used to get harassed as

50:06

a young teen, a heck of a lot

50:09

because I dressed alts and therefore men think

50:11

you're not a person but a walking goth

50:13

sex doll. I also worked in the biggest

50:15

alt market in my city and we would

50:17

get so many guys in there just to

50:19

harass young girls or try to manipulate them.

50:21

I would try to be a cool aunt

50:23

figure to these girls and guide them, showing

50:26

them self defence etc. But honestly the problem

50:28

seems to be getting worse and worse. One

50:30

day after I'd had to deal with a 14

50:32

year old crying on me because a stranger said

50:34

he was going to finish in her hair, I

50:37

was walking home from work and some guys

50:39

started shouting the exact same thing at me.

50:41

Now I'm pretty lucky in that I don't

50:44

look much older than I did at 14

50:46

or 15. People already

50:48

said I looked 18. And

50:50

in that moment I had a wonderful idea. I

50:52

turned around and screamed, I'm 15 you freaking

50:55

pedo. The friend I was

50:57

with got the memo and joined in screaming

50:59

pedo at them. At that point

51:01

we'd been walking through the busiest square in the

51:03

city. Pretty soon other people started paying

51:06

attention to what we were screaming and joined

51:08

in till there must have been 20 plus

51:10

people shouting at the guy with easily

51:13

200 others staring. I've never

51:15

seen someone poop it so quick. It was

51:17

absolutely hilarious to see him go from feeling

51:20

so big and powerful to so scared so

51:22

quickly. He legged it off and dived into

51:24

a taxi, clearly scared that if he stayed

51:26

an angry mob would form around him. It

51:28

was brilliant. I still do it to this

51:30

day when I get harassed if there's enough

51:32

people around for it to work and some

51:34

of my friends have joined in too. Hopefully

51:36

before too long the message will spread around

51:38

them and they'll all become too scared to

51:40

harass anyone. Well you know what OP I

51:43

actually think you're doing the right thing here.

51:45

Yes obviously they're not pedos because you're not

51:47

over the age of 18 but

51:49

they don't know how old you are so yeah

51:51

they're running away because they have no idea and for

51:53

all they know you could be under the age of

51:55

18. And what

51:58

if you were under the age of 18 but didn't say?

52:00

anything. You know, it'd be terrible. So yeah, again,

52:03

kind of like the first story, you've

52:05

stopped this person from doing this again in

52:07

the future. So yes, although you're telling a

52:09

white lie, it's for the good of humanity.

52:11

Have you ever sucked a D? There was

52:13

a guy in my small animal care class

52:15

back in high school who would always ask

52:17

questions about my asexuality in a condescending tone.

52:19

You know the ones. How do

52:21

you know you're asexual if you've never had

52:24

sex? Are you sure you

52:26

just haven't met the one yet? How

52:28

can you be dating, insert my partner's

52:30

name here, without sex? So

52:32

you're just fine with being a virgin

52:34

forever? Almost every day while

52:36

I sat with our class chickens, I was

52:39

interviewed on what I do with my parts.

52:41

His favourite of the questions was, how can

52:43

you be so sure you're asexual if you

52:45

haven't had sex? I tried to

52:48

explain to him multiple times that I didn't need

52:50

to have sex to know that I was asexual,

52:52

that it's a thing you feel, or in our

52:54

case, don't feel, like how someone would know how

52:56

they felt about being with men vs women or

52:59

anyone in between. I used

53:01

all the analogies I could think of and

53:03

he just wouldn't stop. One day, I had

53:05

enough. Without thinking, I yelled,

53:08

have you ever sucked a D Mike?

53:10

I've never seen any person so shocked

53:12

like he'd just been told something that

53:14

would forever change his trajectory of life.

53:17

Wha-what? Have you ever had homosexual

53:20

intercourse with a male? No. Well

53:23

then how can you be sure you're

53:25

straight then? Huh Mike? Stammering, he repeatedly

53:27

insisted it was because he felt such

53:30

a strong attraction to ladies that there

53:32

was no possible way he could be

53:34

gay. Every single time though, I asked

53:36

him again how he was so sure.

53:38

Struggling not to laugh, my friend was trying

53:41

to get me to lower my voice. Look

53:43

Mike, now the chickens are scared. You made

53:45

me scare the chickens. Get back to me

53:47

when you sucked a D Michael. Naturally, I

53:49

got in trouble, but my teacher was chill

53:51

and it was nothing more than a good

53:53

scording and a two week ban from sitting

53:55

with the chickens. I honestly think I should

53:57

have gotten in more trouble. I should have

53:59

controlled my temper. Well, there's no going

54:01

back in time, I guess. For the remaining

54:03

two months that we shared class together, he

54:05

never asked me how I could be so

54:07

confidently asexual. Maybe he learned something

54:09

that day. Maybe he was scared

54:11

of incurring my wrath once again. We

54:13

may never know. I

54:15

still haven't gotten any word that he sucked

54:17

a D yet though. Alright, and here is

54:20

some chicken tacks up on screen right now.

54:22

I don't think I've ever seen chicken tacks

54:24

before on Reddit, but I will say, the

54:26

chickens look pretty lovely. Um, especially like

54:28

the white one. Isn't that

54:30

racist? It wasn't

54:32

meant to be, and it obviously isn't. But I think

54:34

the white one looks cute. Not

54:36

that the black one doesn't. Could this

54:39

stay a yes, because it's not racist.

54:41

It's just unfortunate that I said

54:43

that. There we go guys. I hope

54:45

you don't take offense for that. Just

54:48

a joke. What is not a joke? I don't,

54:50

I mean it. I thought the white one looks cool. Anyway,

54:53

yeah, let's just move on. Tell the entire

54:55

class about my depression while I'm in the

54:57

mental hospital. Hope you don't mind

55:00

me emailing the entire staff about your AA

55:02

meetings. I have severe clinical depression, and I've

55:04

been struggling with it for years. The teachers

55:06

are always made aware of my hospital admissions,

55:08

so they can be more lenient on late

55:11

work after I get back, which I've never really

55:13

had a problem with. Now there

55:15

was this maths teacher I had, let's call her Mrs

55:17

R. My dad is

55:19

a recovering alcoholic and goes to AA regularly,

55:21

which I'm very proud of him for. When

55:24

he went to a parent teacher conference with

55:26

her for the first time, he told me

55:29

in the car that he remembered her from

55:31

AA and was surprised she got a job

55:33

since she relapsed constantly. Now, I didn't care

55:35

much about it since everyone has their problems

55:37

and just decided to forget about him saying

55:39

it. Now, I had to be hospitalised due

55:42

to an unalive attempt. It was for about

55:44

three weeks and during that time I was

55:46

doing math work to keep up with her

55:48

class. When I came back, I realised that

55:50

everyone acted very off when they talked to

55:52

me. I was fairly confused, so I asked

55:54

one of my friends what happened when I was

55:57

gone. Apparently a kid had openly asked why I

55:59

was gone for most of my life. the year

56:01

without any repercussions and Mrs R decided it was

56:03

appropriate to go on a rant about how I

56:05

was suppressed and mentally ill and that she hated

56:07

how I was coddled by the school board. She

56:10

also stated that if I was her child, she

56:12

would, ''beat the depression out of me'' I was

56:14

royally annoyed at the fact that she did that

56:16

and thought it was a good thing to do

56:18

to a kid that at that point was in

56:20

middle school and was being bullied left and right.

56:23

In her age I sent a mass email

56:25

to the staff stating that she was seen

56:27

in AA and how uncomfortable I felt with

56:29

an alcoholic teaching me stuff. Following this

56:31

she was terminated because not even the

56:34

administration knew about her addiction and thought

56:36

that it wasn't safe for her to

56:38

be around children. Now I just want

56:41

to make sure, OP, that you saying

56:43

following this she was terminated, does

56:46

that mean she was shot and killed? I

56:48

hope it does, I fear it doesn't but

56:50

yeah I feel like that is the only

56:52

reasonable outcome here, is that she was shot

56:54

on site. Because the things she is doing

56:56

here are a disgrace and yeah it is

56:58

kind of weird that her school wouldn't know

57:00

about her alcoholism and her aaholic past

57:02

but maybe she just hid it. I

57:04

mean that's I'm sure what happened which

57:07

is crazy to be an

57:10

alcoholic that isn't recovered and

57:12

is still well relapsing constantly according

57:14

to your dad but yeah

57:17

having that person around children is crazy. Yeah

57:19

he did the right thing once again. To

57:21

be honest it doesn't really matter that she

57:23

is an alcoholic or goes to AA meetings

57:25

or relapses whatever, the fact that she is

57:28

disclosing this to your or

57:30

to her class, your classmates

57:33

and then saying all this stuff that

57:36

she said, it is

57:38

absolutely ridiculous. She hated

57:40

how you were called by the school board and

57:42

that if you were her child

57:44

she would beat the depression out of you.

57:46

That's absolutely insane for that reason alone she

57:49

should obviously not be in education. 4

58:02

years beforehand. My parents

58:04

hadn't wanted me to use it

58:06

as a crutch so they just

58:08

hadn't told me. I was furious

58:10

and I immediately pressed to start

58:12

medication and get education accommodations. My

58:15

parents sort of sheepishly agreed to everything I

58:17

asked for and I started doing well for

58:19

the first time ever. This is

58:21

all background info. Well I've gotta say off

58:23

the bat, that is some

58:25

of the worst parenting I've ever heard.

58:28

What on earth? Anyway, we moved and I

58:31

was taking a freshman science class in my

58:33

sophomore year because my old school had done

58:35

what was effectively the sophomore science in my

58:38

freshman year. I'm the 16 year old new

58:40

kid doing standardised testing with a classroom of

58:42

freshman I don't know super well and

58:45

suddenly I have to go to

58:47

the bathroom. My education accommodations allowed

58:49

for bathroom breaks whenever because the

58:51

medication I was on at the

58:53

time included fun side effects like

58:55

bladder control issues. I raised my

58:57

hand and I asked a substitute teacher who

59:00

was acting as our test proctor while

59:02

our normal science teacher was on vacation.

59:05

And she laughed at me. She said she

59:07

wasn't born yesterday and no amount of accommodations

59:09

would convince her to let me leave the

59:12

classroom during standardised testing because I might meet

59:14

up with a friend who had answers to

59:16

the test of something. I tried to argue

59:19

with her and I got increasingly more desperate

59:21

as I explained in hushed whispers what my

59:23

medication did and its side effects. She

59:26

continued chuckling and shaking her head

59:28

with this stupid, bemused smile. I

59:31

started crying before, wouldn't you know

59:33

it? I peed myself. Honestly,

59:35

the next bits are a blur. I

59:37

remember the smile slowly falling off her

59:39

face and then suddenly I was in

59:41

the nurse's office wearing gym clothes and

59:43

listening to my parents scream at the

59:45

principal in two different languages. My

59:48

parents agreed not to sue if that

59:50

substitute was fired. She wasn't able to

59:52

get a job in another school in

59:54

the area and the district apparently brought

59:57

separate charges against her for ignoring accommodations.

1:00:00

she had to pay a steep fine. Now,

1:00:02

thankfully some popular kids decided that anyone who

1:00:04

made fun of me about this wouldn't be

1:00:06

invited to the cool kid house parties, so

1:00:08

I was only teased a little bit. I

1:00:11

still wasn't popular in high school, but

1:00:13

at least my parents became somewhat more

1:00:15

supportive of me and my educational needs

1:00:17

as a result. I hope that lady

1:00:19

enjoys her unemployment as much as I

1:00:21

enjoyed watching someone sign my yearbook a

1:00:24

few years later to P-Girl. Okay,

1:00:27

well, at least your parents eventually did

1:00:29

something that constituted good parenting, but I

1:00:31

hope they realize their errors in the

1:00:34

first place of not telling you about

1:00:36

a serious medical condition that

1:00:38

you have that obviously is gonna impact

1:00:40

your ability to learn. Maybe this happened

1:00:42

a long time ago when

1:00:44

things like ADHD weren't as

1:00:46

understood or accepted, but if

1:00:49

it didn't, and they genuinely didn't want you

1:00:51

to use it as a crutch and

1:00:53

just learn to live with it, I guess,

1:00:55

despite knowing the impact it can have on

1:00:57

you or it does have on you day

1:00:59

to day, then that is

1:01:02

awful. But yeah, okay, maybe they've now changed

1:01:04

their ways and as we can see by

1:01:06

the end, they do care about you. I

1:01:09

mean, yeah, just that first paragraph was shocking

1:01:11

to me. Now as for the teacher,

1:01:13

I mean, yeah, she's just a complete write-off.

1:01:15

What a horrible woman. To

1:01:18

actually laugh at you while you are telling her, no,

1:01:20

I promise you, this is not me trying to cheat

1:01:22

or get out of the test or anything like that,

1:01:25

look at my docs. I mean, surely she

1:01:27

has them on her system or something. Look

1:01:30

at them, I'm on this medication

1:01:32

because of my condition. Like how

1:01:34

can somebody who's a teacher laugh

1:01:37

at you in that spot? It's just ridiculous. It's a

1:01:39

good thing they got rid of her, no doubt about

1:01:41

that. It's a shame that you didn't get the money

1:01:43

though, as you know, you didn't sue and

1:01:46

she was forced to pay her fine to, I

1:01:48

don't know, the school, the district, whatever, not you.

1:01:51

I feel like you deserve some compensation for such

1:01:53

a horrible thing. And fair play to the kids

1:01:55

as well for not bullying you about this. It

1:01:57

would be very easy to do so, not saying

1:01:59

that. They should but I mean

1:02:01

if bullies are looking for a reason to bully

1:02:03

that's a pretty good one So fair play to

1:02:05

the kids for not doing that But yeah, I'm

1:02:07

sure this moment is gonna stay with you and

1:02:09

be pretty traumatic for your life And

1:02:12

yeah I can't imagine what what being in

1:02:14

school and everyone knowing that you've gone through

1:02:16

that would be like now for our second

1:02:18

story This one is brilliant. Still my male

1:02:20

have fun thinking your cast I hadn't thought

1:02:22

of this in years until my daughter brought

1:02:24

it up and suggested I post it here

1:02:27

I'm looking behind us now across the count of

1:02:29

time down the long haul into history

1:02:32

back back in the before times in the

1:02:34

long long ago 2020

1:02:36

I'm talking about 2020 at the time I

1:02:39

was living in the Midwest and my daughter was living

1:02:41

in the Pacific Northwest She

1:02:43

started getting into haunted dolls and

1:02:46

when lockdown happened She picked up

1:02:48

customizing porcelain dolls to keep herself

1:02:50

occupied. I sent her a few

1:02:52

old dolls I'd found at thrift shops But

1:02:54

when I called her to see what she

1:02:57

was going to do with them. She told

1:02:59

me she never got the package That's when

1:03:01

she told me that porch piracy had become

1:03:03

a huge problem in the town She said

1:03:05

that it had always been an issue But

1:03:07

since lockdown had started they'd gotten beyond Blayton

1:03:09

and it was an almost guaranteed chance that

1:03:11

you wouldn't get your packages Unless the mail

1:03:13

person directly handed it to you It

1:03:16

got to the point that the thieves would

1:03:18

literally follow the mail truck and would be

1:03:20

walking up the porch to steal packages as

1:03:23

the mail Person was walking back to the

1:03:25

sidewalk This as you can imagine annoyed me

1:03:27

on a personal level if I was going

1:03:29

to spend my own money Sending something to

1:03:32

my daughter for her to customize. I dang

1:03:34

well wanted her to get it not some

1:03:36

random MOOC off the street I

1:03:38

told her I think about it and get back

1:03:40

to her as there was a doll I found

1:03:42

that I thought would be perfect for a horror

1:03:44

customization Plus I wanted to

1:03:47

support my daughter with her art So

1:03:49

I wanted to commission this doll

1:03:51

specifically the other important factors that

1:03:53

contributed to this situation are that

1:03:55

I'm pagan I love ancient fictional

1:03:57

languages, and I absolutely love it

1:03:59

love being able to screw with people that

1:04:02

deserve it. I spent a few weeks mulling

1:04:04

the situation over in the back of my

1:04:06

mind and I eventually hit on a solution

1:04:08

that borrowed heavily from the satanic panic which

1:04:10

I'd lived through as a kid. Since

1:04:12

I wasn't sure that she would actually get

1:04:14

the package, I decided to send a backup

1:04:17

doll that I'd found and planned on sending

1:04:19

with the original doll just in case the

1:04:21

original doll got messed up in a way

1:04:23

that couldn't be fixed. The doll

1:04:25

had a cracked face, was missing an eye,

1:04:28

had a faded stained blue silk dress and

1:04:30

the hair was a snarled mess. I found

1:04:32

a shoe box that fit the doll with a little room

1:04:34

to spare and I got to work. Everything

1:04:37

I wrote is approximated because I was an

1:04:39

idiot and didn't take a picture before I

1:04:41

mailed the box off. Stupid

1:04:43

of me. Oh that is a shame

1:04:45

I would have loved to see this. Anyway,

1:04:47

first I aged some printer paper with coffee, crumpled

1:04:50

it up until it was soft, then cut out

1:04:52

6 squarish pieces. I created two sigils and

1:04:54

drew them on two of the pieces. One

1:04:56

small one where the sigil took up most of

1:04:59

the paper and one larger one where the sigil

1:05:01

was in the centre but had plenty of room around

1:05:03

it to write other stuff. The sigils

1:05:05

were based on the phrase, efoth thief

1:05:07

and this is not yours. I

1:05:10

also used a Gallifreyan translator app

1:05:12

and created a symbol that translated

1:05:14

into may you perpetually step on

1:05:16

legos barefoot in the dark and

1:05:18

I believe that Gallifrey is the

1:05:20

language used in Doctor Who. The

1:05:23

fourth and fifth pieces of paper

1:05:26

had random symbols drawn on them

1:05:28

including alchemical, astrological, symbols from some

1:05:30

70s metal albums, Le Zeppelin in

1:05:33

specific and random shapes that I

1:05:35

doodled. The last one I used

1:05:37

a Klingon translator and wrote out f

1:05:40

you, you effing eff both

1:05:42

phonetically and in the actual

1:05:44

Klingon alphabet in a spiral that filled

1:05:46

up the entire piece. I took the

1:05:48

larger piece with the not yours sigil

1:05:50

in the middle and wrote phrases cursing

1:05:52

them unto the 100th generation,

1:05:54

accused them of preferring goats as

1:05:57

sexual partners etc in

1:05:59

Norse runes. angelic script and two

1:06:01

other languages I don't remember off the top

1:06:03

of my head. Then I

1:06:05

burned some of the edges and some small

1:06:08

spots throughout the papers. God, imagine

1:06:10

being a thief and looking at

1:06:12

that being like, oh my god, what have

1:06:14

I done? Once I was done with that,

1:06:17

I rolled the largest piece into a tube,

1:06:19

tied it with black and red ribbons, used

1:06:21

wax to seal it and tied it to

1:06:23

the doll's hands over her chest with black

1:06:25

twine. I then wrapped four of

1:06:27

the pieces around the arms and legs of the

1:06:30

doll and I sealed them with wax and stuck

1:06:32

the last piece, the small sigil, over her face.

1:06:34

I used a pentacle wax seal stamp to stick

1:06:36

it to her forehead. I wrapped

1:06:39

the doll in some ancient tissue paper that

1:06:41

I found in my basement and I put

1:06:43

it in the shoe box. I added several

1:06:45

red, black, gray and green quartz crystals as

1:06:47

well as some pinches of dried herbs and

1:06:49

flowers from my altar supplies. I

1:06:52

finished the whole thing off with a short

1:06:54

note written on torn notebook paper that essentially

1:06:56

said that I was grateful to get this

1:06:58

cursed thing off of my hands, that I

1:07:00

tried to seal the evil spirit possessing the

1:07:02

doll as best I could but I didn't

1:07:05

guarantee it would work and that it was

1:07:07

the buyer's problem now. No refunds, no returns

1:07:09

and if the buyer died, it wasn't my

1:07:12

fault. I went absolutely cheesy

1:07:14

80s horror movie with the note. It

1:07:16

was completely histrionic and overblown. I figured

1:07:18

that anyone sensible would think that this

1:07:20

was a prank or a proc or

1:07:22

some I'm so dark and spooky teenager

1:07:24

trying too hard to be dark and

1:07:26

spooky but mostly I wanted to make my

1:07:28

daughter laugh or at least momentarily freak out

1:07:31

who never stole the box. Admittedly

1:07:33

I picked up this doll because it struck

1:07:35

me as looking rather creepy to begin with

1:07:37

so all the set dressing fit the doll

1:07:40

well. I wrapped the box in duct tape

1:07:42

then in brown grocery bag paper, added some

1:07:44

more random symbols on the seams and I

1:07:46

mailed it off to my daughter. The

1:07:49

aftermath. She said that she got the notification

1:07:51

that the doll had gotten delivered but that

1:07:53

when she went to retrieve it, nothing was

1:07:55

there. A Few hours later,

1:07:57

she was sitting in the living room when

1:07:59

she heard a loud trump against the door

1:08:01

and heard the sound of a vehicle speeding

1:08:04

of down the hill. When she opened the

1:08:06

door she found a ripped open and say

1:08:08

City Reed said box containing only two things.

1:08:11

The. Doll buried in what looked

1:08:13

like to full canisters of Molson

1:08:15

souls. She. Thought that was asked to

1:08:17

forgot to ask about the So but she

1:08:20

texted me to let me know the dog

1:08:22

had actually made it. We were So he

1:08:24

about the So last year when she asked

1:08:26

me why censor insults last up for she

1:08:28

was talking about an office. he describes how

1:08:30

that's all arrived. I told her how I'd

1:08:32

actually puck is it's up She was kind

1:08:34

of bomb that she didn't get to see

1:08:37

it and all. it's ridiculous stories that mention

1:08:39

that they haven't had a problem with ports.

1:08:41

Piracy says that. South. I guess

1:08:43

the local post bars was so terrified of

1:08:45

the class that they might have unleashed on

1:08:47

themselves that they've avoided this area since then.

1:08:50

I. Genuinely thought the whole thing was so

1:08:52

of the top and cheesy it would

1:08:54

be obvious it was fake bomb. Whomever

1:08:56

stole at the first time was so

1:08:58

terrified to they have to drown the

1:09:00

doll and souls to break the cause.

1:09:03

I. Genuinely hope base that on that goes

1:09:05

faster. To this day While there we

1:09:07

go I think that is the plastic

1:09:09

story for this sub reddit. Just absolutely

1:09:11

genius. I'm proud of Gang Makarova post

1:09:13

par vibes from this by breathing This

1:09:15

is a level above because that yes

1:09:17

it did put that they saw that

1:09:20

and in I had a comical covered

1:09:22

in and glitter and sparkles and stuff

1:09:24

but this is like genuinely people might

1:09:26

be thinking here these these that they

1:09:28

are cast and a father They've had

1:09:30

some poor soul on the dole to

1:09:32

try and. yeah whatever bright the castle

1:09:34

whatever is ridiculous or it yeah he can

1:09:36

scare some on or you can scare someone's

1:09:39

for the rest of their life thinking that

1:09:41

cause i mean there are levels of this

1:09:43

game crazy stuff it's brilliant hola can say

1:09:46

is absolutely brilliant a lot the only way

1:09:48

you can love of this up now even

1:09:50

father is somehow find out who that thief

1:09:52

was or not is as possible but is

1:09:55

really try have a really try fundamentalist think

1:09:57

i'm put the dog back on their doorstep

1:09:59

with another random note saying like, no,

1:10:02

this is your doll now, you are cursed

1:10:04

forever. And that will ensure

1:10:06

that they truly are cursed,

1:10:08

I guess in their mind, right? Thinking about this

1:10:11

for the rest of eternity. I

1:10:13

think you just have to go that one

1:10:15

step further if possible. Okay, now moving on

1:10:17

to our third post from r slash traumatized

1:10:19

them back. No, I will not be watching

1:10:21

that, thanks. A few years back

1:10:23

when I worked at a fairly large grocery

1:10:26

store, there was the stint when the same

1:10:28

coworker would find me during my break and

1:10:30

whittle away my already precious 15 minutes talking

1:10:32

about whatever TV show she was obsessed with at

1:10:35

the time. Now I'm not great at watching the

1:10:37

shows I actually want to watch, but I'm

1:10:39

equally bad at telling people no. So

1:10:42

often our talks would end with her insisting

1:10:44

I watch whatever show I'd already forgotten the

1:10:46

name of and me sheepishly answering, I'll put

1:10:48

it on the list. Then for like the

1:10:50

space of a month, she got a bug

1:10:52

up her butt about one show in particular,

1:10:55

13 reasons why. Now, most probably

1:10:57

know what that is, but quick summary

1:10:59

for those who lived on the rocks

1:11:02

like myself, a teenage girl uses her

1:11:04

graphically depicted unaliving to get revenge on

1:11:06

the people that hurt her in life.

1:11:09

For the first time I told her,

1:11:11

no, not my type of show, which

1:11:13

seemed to be her sleeper agent

1:11:16

activation dedicated solely to making me

1:11:18

watch this freaking show every

1:11:20

day she'd bring it up and we'd have

1:11:22

the exact same conversation. I would ask what

1:11:25

it was again because I exercised it from

1:11:27

my mind after the last conversation. She excitedly

1:11:29

recounts the show and I tell her, no,

1:11:31

still not interested in increasingly firm ways. Finally,

1:11:34

I get tired of this game one day

1:11:36

and I cut her off in the middle

1:11:38

of explaining the show for the millionth time.

1:11:41

I put on my most chipper tone

1:11:43

and I let loose. Oh my God,

1:11:45

you know, you love this stuff so

1:11:47

much. I should totally tell you about

1:11:49

how I tried to unalive myself last

1:11:51

year. It's got all the

1:11:53

stuff you love, assault, unaliving, abuse that

1:11:56

I still go to therapy for. Oh,

1:11:58

but I didn't try to. alive myself in

1:12:00

a cool teen drama kind of way, I just

1:12:03

try to step in front of a train. Oh,

1:12:05

oh, I can tell you exactly what it feels

1:12:07

like the moment you make the decision to end

1:12:10

your life though. That's what you want, right? The

1:12:12

more I went on, the paler she got,

1:12:14

trying to cut in since I was being

1:12:16

loud and pretty much the whole break room

1:12:19

could hear. She tried to apologise and act

1:12:21

sympathetic to my pain, but I just kept

1:12:23

going, giving more and more of the worst

1:12:25

details until my break alarm went off. Oh,

1:12:27

I've got to get going. Thanks for the

1:12:29

show, Rek, but I don't think I'm going

1:12:31

to watch. Bye. Shockingly, she stopped

1:12:33

talking to me after that and I finally

1:12:35

got to enjoy my breaks. Okay, don't get

1:12:37

me wrong. I feel like if I watch

1:12:40

a good show and there's nothing sort of

1:12:42

massively triggering in it and I really want

1:12:44

someone to watch it, whether it be a

1:12:46

colleague or a friend or whatever, I will

1:12:49

say, have you started watching that yet? It's

1:12:51

really, really good. Trust me. Have you watched

1:12:53

it yet? Now, hopefully I wouldn't get annoying

1:12:55

with that, but I would, yeah, I would

1:12:57

keep saying it at least a couple of

1:12:59

times just to give someone a reminder if

1:13:01

I thought they were really going to like it.

1:13:03

Now, the difference is here. We're 13 reasons why

1:13:05

and I haven't watched it, I'm going to be

1:13:07

honest, but I do know what it's about. That

1:13:10

is a show that you probably wouldn't push

1:13:12

onto somebody again and again and again. And

1:13:14

I think after hearing no, not my type

1:13:17

of show when you first explain it to

1:13:19

somebody, you then probably wouldn't do it again.

1:13:21

Now, I'm not saying that she should have

1:13:23

known that you had this happen to you

1:13:25

before or you were in this sort of

1:13:28

situation, but I feel like you

1:13:30

probably get some sort of hint from someone

1:13:32

saying, no, not my type of show when

1:13:35

it's a show about someone that has been alive themselves.

1:13:37

Even still, like even if it's not about them and

1:13:39

they've had a history with this, if they just don't

1:13:41

like that sort of stuff, then I feel

1:13:44

like you pushed away after that one. But

1:13:46

no, she just kept going and going and

1:13:48

going. And The only way to stop her

1:13:50

was saying what you said. By The way, what I'm saying

1:13:52

is that if I recommended a movie to somebody and they

1:13:54

said, Oh yeah, I'll watch it, then I would, I might

1:13:56

ask them again in future. Oh, have you watched it? By

1:13:58

The Way,: you really should. The and if they

1:14:01

said no I'm not gonna watch that one

1:14:03

not my saw a movie. I would never

1:14:05

recommend a ten that was be weird especially

1:14:07

when it's a topic like this. months to

1:14:09

accuse me of stealing. I'll make you look

1:14:12

back to us as they I found out

1:14:14

I likely have thyroid cancer while pretty treatable

1:14:16

and I'm sure I'll be fine. I've already

1:14:18

survived cancer twice and harry not what again

1:14:20

has been difficult to say the least. Asked

1:14:23

My terrible day I decided to go to

1:14:25

a local gas station and by a trashy

1:14:27

pizza and some snacks to hang out in

1:14:29

the local park. As use the bathroom

1:14:31

waiting for the women who was in the

1:14:33

bathrooms. Immediately after I closed the door, she

1:14:36

started yelling at me through the door that

1:14:38

she'd left her dollar. It's. At me

1:14:40

a second to realize she was talking to

1:14:42

me is that when I did I yelled

1:14:44

back to her the i didn't see it

1:14:46

but I'd be either minutes I finished up

1:14:48

my business and honestly atlanticist give has a

1:14:50

dollar is she couldn't find as as I

1:14:52

just happen to have a dollar on me

1:14:54

I don't usually carry cash and she seems

1:14:56

somewhat forensic like she needed it for a

1:14:58

purchase that was and so she came out

1:15:00

and started yelling at me to i stole

1:15:02

her dollar and how thera sit a dollar

1:15:05

from a homeless person. Honestly, Think

1:15:07

it was probably a scab as an have the

1:15:09

energy to deal with her and I thought it

1:15:11

was best annoyance arise. She. Continued to

1:15:13

yell for a few minutes before huffing and

1:15:15

puffing the from someone helps or purchase whatever

1:15:17

I smith was she wants it as he

1:15:19

talk trash about me to everyone that as

1:15:22

she was leaving she turned back to me

1:15:24

I was not waiting in line as started

1:15:26

yelling you seriously get a still from a

1:15:28

homeless woman Honestly she seemed to the kind

1:15:31

of rough place so I probably shouldn't asks

1:15:33

and I definitely wouldn't have usually. I was

1:15:35

at the end of my rope so I

1:15:37

snapped back looking her dead in the eyes

1:15:40

and replies and you'll go into a rough

1:15:42

a. Woman with cancer over something she

1:15:44

didn't do. Ever got really

1:15:46

sought after that as she passed

1:15:48

out. Death. or might be a

1:15:50

bit of a check for that one but honestly

1:15:53

it felt good for a sec now you know

1:15:55

the just hear us all opium my pin i

1:15:57

think if you're you're completely was in your your

1:15:59

bowels say samantha You know if you're getting abused

1:16:01

by some like rando and they're accusing your stuff

1:16:03

that you haven't done You can do it back

1:16:05

to them when it's actually legit it is so

1:16:07

yeah respects and well done for not letting her

1:16:10

just Get away with this and not giving her

1:16:12

a dollar I mean, I don't really know what

1:16:14

our intentions were it does seem as though it

1:16:16

might have been a scam who really knows? Just

1:16:19

confusing situation all around but I think you dealt

1:16:21

with it perfectly fine That's the thing like if

1:16:23

nobody pulls her up on this then she's never

1:16:25

gonna learn to be self-aware Right and it takes

1:16:28

someone like you saying something like that to hopefully

1:16:30

make her change her ways and not do this thing

1:16:32

anymore I don't really know what it is. So

1:16:35

yeah good on you do it more I say

1:16:37

I've been calling my sister by her full given

1:16:39

name when she dead names my niece My

1:16:42

brother's kid who is a 22 year

1:16:44

old woman came out as trans on

1:16:46

her 21st birthday about a year ago

1:16:48

and changed her name From Lance to

1:16:50

Lacey most of our family accepted it

1:16:52

and the ones who didn't weren't close

1:16:54

anyway Except our sister Eva who is

1:16:56

45 We are a

1:16:58

Native American family with a lot of creative

1:17:01

names and my sister's birth name is

1:17:03

something close to Evangeline But

1:17:05

she decided to go by Eva after a

1:17:07

white kid said her name was res out

1:17:10

By a low-class or stereotypical name

1:17:12

from an Indian reservation She's

1:17:14

insisted on Eva for about 35 years

1:17:17

and we all obliged now She's

1:17:19

regularly been calling my trans niece

1:17:21

by her dead name Lance since

1:17:23

she came out as trans So

1:17:26

I started calling her Evangeline which

1:17:28

she hates the whole family calls

1:17:30

on and have only been referring

1:17:32

to her as Evangeline for about

1:17:34

a year now and she is

1:17:36

furious every time she comes to

1:17:38

family events Recently, she's been calling

1:17:41

me by my full first name

1:17:43

to bother me My first name

1:17:45

is a portmanteau hyphenation of my

1:17:47

mum's four sisters names something like

1:17:49

Alexiana Dorothea But wackia Wow people

1:17:51

have always called me a D or Lexi

1:17:54

or my brothers called me dodo since he

1:17:56

was a kid I love

1:17:58

my four first names, but it's cumbersome to

1:18:00

use an 8 syllable name regularly. Well,

1:18:03

my full name caught on with family

1:18:05

and friends. Just despite Evangeline,

1:18:07

we have all reverted back to our

1:18:09

full names instead of nicknames. Our

1:18:11

dad is no longer Frank, he's Franklin.

1:18:14

Our mum no longer Roz, she is

1:18:16

Rosalyn. Brother no longer Nate,

1:18:18

he's Nathaniel. My sister-in-law is

1:18:20

no longer Kate, she's Catherine,

1:18:22

etc. This has

1:18:24

truly driven Evangeline away, which was the

1:18:26

plan in the first place. Lacey makes

1:18:28

her better company so good riddance to

1:18:31

one trashy sister. You know what, I

1:18:33

just despise people like this. Coming out

1:18:35

as trans is probably one of the

1:18:37

most courageous things you can possibly do,

1:18:39

and it must be an extremely difficult

1:18:41

thing for somebody to do, made even

1:18:43

worse by people like this, who just

1:18:45

don't accept it clearly at all, and still

1:18:48

sadly use their dead name to probably make them

1:18:50

question whether they even should have come out in

1:18:52

the first place. I mean the only thing that

1:18:54

Lacey can do is just ignore Eva as much

1:18:56

as she can, and I think to be fair

1:18:58

OP, with your help and the rest of the

1:19:00

families, she has been able to do this, but

1:19:02

it's just so ignorant right? Eva knows what she's

1:19:04

doing here, there's no doubt about it. The fact

1:19:07

of the matter is, she clearly has an issue

1:19:09

that Lacey's name has changed, but then she didn't

1:19:11

have an issue calling other family members by their

1:19:13

nicknames. Just a disgraceful person,

1:19:15

I hope you disown her. Right, let's step things

1:19:17

up a bit, our next story is

1:19:19

some phenomenal escalating revenge. Should have just

1:19:21

let me walk away with my share.

1:19:23

All you had to do was let

1:19:25

me walk away. For some background, I

1:19:27

am a practicing internal medicine physician, and

1:19:29

formerly a 50% owner in

1:19:32

what was once a fairly successful meds

1:19:34

bar with 4 locations, at least until

1:19:36

what happened below. Before anyone accuses me

1:19:38

of breaking the law, blah blah blah,

1:19:41

don't, this has been litigated, resolved and

1:19:43

I won, but it is a fun

1:19:45

story. In the beginning, my business

1:19:47

partner and I were mere acquaintances working

1:19:49

with a large hospitalist practice. Looking for

1:19:52

extra income to pay off student loans,

1:19:54

we decided to band together and open

1:19:56

a meds bar, offering Botox, minor cosmetic

1:19:59

procedures, and a B12 infusions

1:20:01

etc and it was a huge

1:20:03

hit, big enough for us to

1:20:05

go full time and expand. This

1:20:07

lasted around 7 years. Beginnings

1:20:10

of problems, my partner decides that his

1:20:12

wife isn't enough for him and begins

1:20:14

to step out on her. Now

1:20:16

this is none of my business, however

1:20:18

it does become my business when you

1:20:20

embezzle money to pay for your sugar

1:20:23

baby's gifts from our business account. Fast

1:20:25

forward a few years and I've sat on

1:20:27

this information because business overall was too good

1:20:29

to walk away from. However Covid

1:20:32

changed things and we had to close 2

1:20:34

of our 4 locations. My partner has never

1:20:36

been great with money or time management which

1:20:38

is why for the most far I handled

1:20:41

all of the back office stuff from ordering

1:20:43

supplies to billing and payroll and so on.

1:20:46

This comes into play later. Around 6

1:20:48

months ago I began looking for a new

1:20:50

position and found a new job. I didn't

1:20:52

want to leave my partner in a hard

1:20:54

spot so I gave him a 90 day

1:20:56

notice to find another partner or otherwise get

1:20:58

his business affairs in order before I resigned.

1:21:01

He instead used this time to siphon

1:21:03

off more funds for his side piece

1:21:05

and allow his unruly children to ransack

1:21:07

my office while I was away on

1:21:09

a family vacation and frequently not showing

1:21:11

up to work or showing up late

1:21:13

or super hungover leaving me to do

1:21:16

extra. So it was my time to

1:21:18

go and my time to get even.

1:21:20

Finally the time had come to wind down my

1:21:22

time. Per our agreement my partner was to buy

1:21:25

out my 50% of the practice

1:21:27

which we agreed would occur on the Monday

1:21:29

of my last week. Basically I'd take 50%

1:21:32

of our liquid assets as a bank transfer.

1:21:34

Monday upon checking the bank account I had

1:21:36

been locked out and upon regaining access I

1:21:38

found that $30,000 of my half had been

1:21:41

moved to an account I did not have

1:21:43

access to. I had had it and I

1:21:45

spent the next few days plotting my revenge.

1:21:48

Remember those back office things that I handled above?

1:21:51

Well all of those documents, processes,

1:21:53

order forms etc they're all shared

1:21:55

on our shared office hard drive

1:21:57

and are absolutely vital to the

1:21:59

practice. and are way too much

1:22:01

work for my partner to do himself in a

1:22:03

short time. I just so happened

1:22:06

to buy an identical model and take the

1:22:08

original hard drive home with me. Upon

1:22:10

plugging the hard drive in, I found

1:22:13

a backup of his calendar, pictures and

1:22:15

emails between him and his mistress which

1:22:17

I forwarded to his wife. The

1:22:19

following day, I ran a full page

1:22:21

ad in the local paper announcing a

1:22:24

special holiday deal on our services which

1:22:26

we'd planned. Lastly, I hired

1:22:28

some college students to write a slew

1:22:30

of bad reviews on Google and Yelp

1:22:32

to tank the overall ratings. The Aftermath

1:22:34

The week after my departure, the clinic

1:22:36

was insanely busy and quickly ran out

1:22:38

of supplies. Since the order

1:22:41

forms etc was gone, he had to

1:22:43

turn away new and long standing clients.

1:22:46

My partner sued for the documents and I

1:22:48

countersued for the $30,000 he owed me. We

1:22:51

settled by exchanging the two. I've

1:22:54

since heard that his wife divorced him,

1:22:56

his mistress left him and subsequently he

1:22:58

has filed for bankruptcy as the clinic

1:23:00

never recovered and his wife cleaned him

1:23:03

out. I on the

1:23:05

other hand really like my new job.

1:23:07

Well this is an absolute masterpiece and

1:23:09

yeah he deserves it. He absolutely

1:23:11

deserves the destruction that you've put upon him

1:23:14

and the fact that probably his life is

1:23:16

pretty ruined right now. It's just weird because

1:23:18

your lives were going so well, your relationship

1:23:20

was so good right now. You

1:23:23

were growing this great business, even through Covid.

1:23:25

Managing to keep half of your sites

1:23:27

open as a new business is extremely impressive.

1:23:30

Most businesses definitely would have just completely gone

1:23:32

under there but you managed to keep 2

1:23:34

out of 4 locations open. But

1:23:37

no, apparently that wasn't enough. I've

1:23:39

got to embezzle loads of money to

1:23:41

pay off my new women that I'm

1:23:43

chasing and then some other stuff as

1:23:45

well. Even your partner who

1:23:47

you've grown this business with, you're

1:23:50

willing to just hide money from, take

1:23:52

money away from them. Disgusting and once

1:23:54

again very very deserve revenge. Ok then

1:23:56

let's set things up once again. Now

1:23:58

it's time for some seed. serious stuff.

1:24:00

This is r slash pro revenge. Do

1:24:02

not scheme people and talk about it

1:24:05

in another language. They might understand it.

1:24:07

I am a Serbian who moved to

1:24:09

America to work for 4 years. I

1:24:11

was in a smaller IT company, around

1:24:13

20 people and I was highly regarded

1:24:16

by the owners. There were 2 of

1:24:18

them. Sometimes I represented them in meetings,

1:24:20

mostly when showcasing the company services and

1:24:22

so on. One day, while on a

1:24:24

break, I overheard one of the owners

1:24:26

mentioning they had a meeting with a

1:24:29

Serbian company and they would like me

1:24:31

to accompany them in case there were any

1:24:33

communication issues. I agreed. During

1:24:35

the meeting, we forgot to mention that

1:24:37

I was Serbian. I was introduced as

1:24:40

an assistant, so I didn't feel the

1:24:42

need to introduce myself. When we

1:24:44

presented our services, they started speaking in

1:24:46

Stravokai. Apologies if I pronounced that wrong.

1:24:49

A Serbian slang where words are

1:24:51

twisted, probably thinking that if anyone had

1:24:53

learned Serbian, they wouldn't be able to

1:24:55

understand them. I understood every word.

1:24:57

They were attempting to deceive the company

1:25:00

and it was evident we weren't their

1:25:02

first or last target. I wrote down

1:25:04

a few things they said, translated them

1:25:06

and showed one of the owners the

1:25:08

translation. After the meeting, they

1:25:10

asked if I was sure and I confirmed.

1:25:13

Due to some procedures, we had to

1:25:15

meet one more time. But with permission,

1:25:18

I said, ras milisemor o

1:25:20

vasem predlogu. Which by the way,

1:25:22

translates as, we will think about

1:25:24

your proposal. They just froze for

1:25:26

a second. Face wide and open

1:25:28

mouths, they looked at each other

1:25:30

and tried to stay cool. But

1:25:33

you could hear in their voices,

1:25:35

they knew they screwed up. We

1:25:37

didn't sign anything with that company. I don't

1:25:39

know how many times over the course of

1:25:42

my channel's history, I have seen stories similar

1:25:44

to this. I don't know what it is

1:25:46

with idiotic people that just don't think that

1:25:48

other people could potentially speak their language. Like

1:25:50

surely the fact that you are speaking your

1:25:53

language in the country you're in, tells you

1:25:55

that there could be other people in the

1:25:57

country you're in also speaking the same language.

1:26:00

I mean, why even risk this? Why try

1:26:02

and talk behind people's backs who you're trying

1:26:04

to get money off or you know, do

1:26:06

business with? In a situation like this, if

1:26:08

you're gonna try and scheme someone and probably

1:26:10

don't do it, but if you're gonna try,

1:26:12

probably don't speak about scheming them to their

1:26:14

face. Just insane. Ultimately, they've lost a lot

1:26:16

of money and yes, what they were doing

1:26:18

was terrible anyway, but they could have at

1:26:20

least made some money from it. So for

1:26:23

them, personally, their idiotic screw up just

1:26:25

cost them tens of thousands of dollars probably. What

1:26:27

I do hope is that you got a big

1:26:29

pay rise or at least a promotion because you've

1:26:31

saved the company and we don't know how much

1:26:33

money it was, but you saved the company probably

1:26:35

a heck of a lot of money just from

1:26:38

this one thing and being in that meeting and

1:26:40

also sticking your neck out and telling your bosses,

1:26:42

look, I know this is weird, but this is

1:26:44

literally what's happening right now. I'm 100% confident on

1:26:46

it. How much money might you have saved them?

1:26:48

I mean, we have no idea, but

1:26:50

yeah, I hope you got a bonus at

1:26:53

least. Okay, now that is gonna do it

1:26:55

for the, let's be honest, sort of

1:26:57

safe, gentle stuff off this episode. The next

1:26:59

story is crazy. It comes from nuclear revenge,

1:27:02

as you can see by the title and

1:27:04

the thumbnail, it is just mental

1:27:06

and yeah, I hope you're prepared for

1:27:09

it. If you're not, then just

1:27:11

be prepared. Now, before we get into

1:27:13

it, I do just wanna mention something.

1:27:15

It's a bit of an announcement actually.

1:27:17

A lot of you have been commenting

1:27:19

and you've seen over the past couple

1:27:21

of weeks or so on my channel

1:27:23

that I've been posting pretty much only

1:27:26

stories that are based on relationship drama,

1:27:28

stories from r slash relationship advice, r

1:27:30

slash relationship subreddits like that. And

1:27:32

the reason for that is because I've just

1:27:34

been loving those sort of posts and stories

1:27:36

at the moment. They come from, you

1:27:38

know, best of Reddit updates, that sort of stuff. There's

1:27:41

always conclusions. There's always a lot of drama,

1:27:43

which I like, and you guys seem to

1:27:45

be liking as well. And that is the

1:27:47

reason why I'm covering a lot of them

1:27:49

now. As you can see in this episode,

1:27:51

we're back on a more normal standard subreddit

1:27:54

for my channel, ProRevenge and Revenge Subreddit. I'm

1:27:56

really enjoying the relationship stuff at the moment.

1:27:58

So for that reason. I don't

1:28:00

want to completely inundate you all

1:28:03

with solely relationship drama content. So

1:28:05

what I've done to appease myself

1:28:07

and those of you that really

1:28:10

like the drama stuff is I've

1:28:12

made a new channel, Redditor Extra,

1:28:14

where I'm going to be posting

1:28:17

solely relationship drama stories, be that

1:28:19

weddings, bryzillas, cheating, anything.

1:28:21

I mean, you guys have seen over the past couple

1:28:23

of weeks, these stories can have literally anything in them

1:28:26

over on that channel. Now I've already posted

1:28:28

one entire video episode on that channel and

1:28:30

the reason why nobody has seen it yet,

1:28:32

and I've not told anyone yet, because I

1:28:34

wanted to wait until quite

1:28:36

a long time into a normal episode of

1:28:38

mine to tell you guys, still listening and

1:28:41

watching right now, the core audience about the

1:28:43

channel. It's a bit of a secret, okay?

1:28:46

I only want the people that are really fans

1:28:48

of my stuff to go over there and enjoy

1:28:50

the channel. Don't tell people about it.

1:28:52

Keep it to yourself. I'll leave a link to it, not

1:28:54

even in the description. It's just going

1:28:56

to, you know, I'll leave it in the description, but

1:28:59

a few lines down and I'll also

1:29:01

put it on the end screen as well. But

1:29:03

yeah, don't go talking about it loads in the

1:29:05

comments. I just want this to be for the

1:29:07

core fans. All right, it's not being said, hopefully

1:29:09

people haven't heard that, but yeah, search for Redditor

1:29:11

Extra or click the link at

1:29:14

the end of this one. Now let's get in

1:29:16

to the fourth and final story

1:29:18

of this episode. Make up rumors that I

1:29:20

have CP and I'm a prostitute because I

1:29:23

won't date you. Say goodbye to your

1:29:25

new $150,000 car and hello, prison and a ruined life. So

1:29:31

first of all, let's introduce the characters. Me

1:29:33

an 18 year old male,

1:29:35

unmedicated senior, psycho incel referred to

1:29:38

as PI, a 16 year old

1:29:41

boy. So for backstory, I was the

1:29:43

only gay kid in what felt like

1:29:45

my entire small, deep South Southern town

1:29:47

and came out very young. So that

1:29:49

identity kind of stuck. My

1:29:51

family was mostly very supportive and I'm grateful

1:29:53

for that because outside of two or three

1:29:56

friends, I might as well have had

1:29:58

a scarlet a branded to my fourth. Eventually

1:30:00

though, a few other people came out, one

1:30:03

being Psycho Insel, a very

1:30:05

wealthy, spoiled, all-American entitled kid

1:30:07

who drove a very, very

1:30:09

expensive new car. Now

1:30:11

when he first came out, it was to no

1:30:13

one's surprise, but regardless, a mutual friend was worried

1:30:16

it would be a hard time and asked if

1:30:18

I would befriend him and give him tips on

1:30:20

how to get through it, etc. I

1:30:22

of course said yes, big mistake.

1:30:25

Now by this time, I didn't care

1:30:27

what anyone thought because the people who

1:30:29

mattered had already made it apparent and

1:30:31

vice versa. So I was pretty

1:30:33

open about the fact that I was actively

1:30:35

dating someone much, much older than me. I

1:30:38

don't want to hear it, that's not

1:30:40

the point of the story, it was

1:30:42

a wonderful, healthy relationship that my conservative,

1:30:44

traditional dad even supported, so shut up.

1:30:46

Fair enough, no comments from me, not

1:30:48

that I would comment anyway, respect. Now

1:30:50

after getting coffee with Psycho Insel and

1:30:52

being friendly, he apparently developed feelings for

1:30:54

me and after he confessed, I gently

1:30:56

told him I was seeing someone and

1:30:58

that I was very happy. This

1:31:01

was common knowledge in our gothic ridden

1:31:03

high school anyhow, and that was apparently

1:31:05

not acceptable to him and he went

1:31:08

ballistic. In small towns, there are often

1:31:10

what's known as junior-senior wars, where the

1:31:12

two grades have a war of harmless

1:31:14

albeit annoying pranks. However, our

1:31:17

school was not completely uncivilised, so

1:31:19

there was a group chat for

1:31:21

both grades to discuss rules, limits

1:31:23

such as no damaging, no hitting

1:31:26

houses if someone expressed they weren't

1:31:28

participating, renting etc. Well

1:31:30

in that group chat with over 1000 kids,

1:31:34

Psycho Insel thought it would be a

1:31:36

great time to drop bombshell number one.

1:31:38

I had expressed that I was not

1:31:40

participating, to not hit my house as

1:31:42

it's rented and so on and so

1:31:44

forth. Cue Psycho Insel

1:31:46

responding directly and saying, what, you

1:31:48

can't afford to buy it with

1:31:50

all the money you've been making

1:31:52

being a prostitute for your 50

1:31:54

year old boyfriend? I

1:31:56

would like to say first off, my boyfriend was

1:31:58

nowhere near that age. I saw

1:32:00

red. I loved that man to death

1:32:02

and felt a forehead vein practically hemorrhage.

1:32:04

Say to say the rumor passed through

1:32:06

the high school and the community. My

1:32:09

coaches took me aside, our extra religious

1:32:11

teachers tormented me more and I was

1:32:13

a pariah. Oh well, I

1:32:15

had acceptance to a top university, my

1:32:18

friends, my boyfriend and my family. I

1:32:20

was almost done. Then the

1:32:22

next rumor dropped and this is when

1:32:25

I went nuclear. One day I got

1:32:27

a call from my friend and immediately

1:32:29

I knew something was wrong. Apparently little

1:32:31

psycho incel had decided it was a

1:32:33

good idea to lie and tell people

1:32:35

that I had one, cheated on my

1:32:38

boyfriend, two, made a video with the

1:32:40

guy cheated with, three, it was

1:32:42

with a junior, someone under

1:32:45

18. None of which was remotely

1:32:47

true. Thankfully he was very

1:32:49

popular and very straight and was also

1:32:51

an obsession of psycho incels and knew

1:32:53

where it came from. And

1:32:55

he agreed to, in writing, express that

1:32:57

none of this was true and gave

1:33:00

me copious amounts of evidence, screenshots of

1:33:02

texts, Instagram DMs, etc. of psycho incel's

1:33:04

online harassment. I kept all of this

1:33:06

in a file just in case this

1:33:09

ever got out and I needed to

1:33:11

defend myself. And thankfully it never became

1:33:13

more than a funny, impossible, salacious story

1:33:16

made up about me. However,

1:33:18

it was too late for him as

1:33:20

I was already very mentally unstable and

1:33:22

this would have ruined everything I was

1:33:24

riding on. Now on

1:33:26

to the revenge. Finally. So not only

1:33:29

was psycho incel's car brand new, but

1:33:31

it was a new car because he

1:33:33

destroyed his old one and was not

1:33:36

getting another. Love small town gossip but

1:33:38

also driving through someone's house is pretty

1:33:40

conspicuous lol. Now I'll admit I

1:33:43

did not come up with this. I read it

1:33:45

in a fanfiction, but it actually worked out very

1:33:47

well. The first thing I did

1:33:49

was go to the furthest bait and tackle

1:33:51

shop I could find and I bought catfish

1:33:53

bait. Now if you don't fish

1:33:55

you might not know, but catfish love the

1:33:58

stinkiest, smelliest bait you can find. and

1:34:00

I bought a whole jar of the slop. I

1:34:03

knew the parking lot of my school

1:34:05

had no security or cameras because my

1:34:07

car had already been vandalised. I did

1:34:09

embrace the F-word carved into my door

1:34:11

with pride eventually. Well, I'm

1:34:13

sorry to hear that. And then I got

1:34:15

to work in the cold February morning. The

1:34:18

first thing I did was hammer nails into

1:34:20

three of his tyres. Now this wouldn't pop

1:34:22

them immediately, but they would eventually each deflate

1:34:24

at much more inconvenient places and nails would

1:34:27

look more accidental than if they were slashed.

1:34:29

Then I took poison ivy and rubbed it

1:34:31

all over the door handles of his car.

1:34:34

Afterwards, I took a mix of gravel and

1:34:36

vaseline and spread it all over the windshield

1:34:38

wipers, which would just scratch the heck out

1:34:40

of it once he used them. My

1:34:43

favourite, however, was using that catfish

1:34:45

bait. Knowing enough about cars, i.e.

1:34:47

copious googling, I figured out how

1:34:49

to get to the AC portion

1:34:51

and I pulled in the catfish

1:34:53

bait. Sadly, I wouldn't be

1:34:55

able to witness this, but he wouldn't be

1:34:58

using his AC for another month or so,

1:35:00

since it's still cold. All

1:35:02

that time for it to rot, fester,

1:35:04

congeal, and the first day it's warm

1:35:06

and he decides to blast AC, his

1:35:09

car will be filled with the fumes

1:35:11

of a thousand rotten piles of roadkill

1:35:13

and low tide without any idea where

1:35:15

it's coming from or how to get

1:35:18

rid of it. The next part of

1:35:20

this story is honestly out of pure

1:35:22

dumb luck, and I can't claim complete

1:35:24

responsibility from the universe's work. However, I,

1:35:27

being the obsessive paranoid type, would check

1:35:29

his socials from a burner account now

1:35:31

and again, perhaps hoping to hear

1:35:33

about his fishy car or to see if he

1:35:35

aired out more rumours about me. One

1:35:37

day, I found something odd. Nothing.

1:35:40

Every single social media was gone.

1:35:43

Out of pure curiosity, I googled his

1:35:46

name and found something very juicy and

1:35:48

very crazy. He was arrested

1:35:50

in an entirely different state for

1:35:52

attempting to impersonate a government official

1:35:55

and bring a gun into a

1:35:57

theme park. Safe to say that

1:35:59

didn't fly. but also it did not

1:36:01

get enough traction as I would like. Thus,

1:36:04

I sent it to everyone I knew

1:36:06

in our small town. His summer job,

1:36:08

future college, our high school, that giant

1:36:10

group chat of over a thousand people,

1:36:13

yeah, it got sent there as well.

1:36:15

By the end of the day, he

1:36:17

was a pariah, jobless, and college-less. I

1:36:19

left my town, and honestly, I haven't

1:36:21

heard anything about him since, but I

1:36:23

can't imagine he amounted to much being

1:36:25

that insane and with that type of

1:36:27

crime as well. Well, there we go. Same to say

1:36:30

things differently ramped up in this episode. My word, I

1:36:32

mean, to be honest, the first three stories were

1:36:34

pretty chill. That last one, wow. Goodness

1:36:37

me. I mean, it doesn't get much

1:36:39

worse than accusing someone of having or

1:36:42

creating CP. I mean, that is just

1:36:44

revolting. To be honest, I think

1:36:46

you should go to prison for that. Yeah, I mean,

1:36:48

you have to be arrested for that. That is such

1:36:50

a bold, huge claim that can absolutely

1:36:53

destroy someone's life, even if it's not true,

1:36:55

that I think the ramifications have to be

1:36:57

serious for the person making that claim, if

1:36:59

it is completely false, and they know it's

1:37:01

completely false, and they're just doing it to,

1:37:04

I don't know, destroy your image. To be

1:37:06

honest, though, despite all you did, which was

1:37:08

great, it seemed that in the end, he

1:37:10

was the one that actually pressed his own

1:37:12

self-destruct button, right? I mean, where did that

1:37:15

come from? The fact that he impersonated a

1:37:17

police officer and walked into a theme park

1:37:19

with a gun. What the heck? I mean,

1:37:21

I did not see that coming. Just shows

1:37:23

that this guy was absolutely insane. I think

1:37:25

that the incel is a pretty good word

1:37:28

to describe him, let's be realistic, although it's

1:37:30

probably more than that. I don't really know

1:37:32

what he was planning to do with that gun

1:37:34

though. That is the scary thing. And

1:37:36

based on the other stuff that we've seen

1:37:39

him do throughout this story, I don't know.

1:37:41

I'm only just kind of thankful that he

1:37:43

was caught before anything serious happened. Threaten my

1:37:46

friend with revenge, Prawn. I'll ruin your whole

1:37:48

dang life. My very good friend made some

1:37:50

slightly dumb mistakes and sent some pictures to

1:37:52

someone that she reasonably thought she could trust,

1:37:55

but not knowing much more than his first

1:37:57

name, his screen name, and roughly where he

1:37:59

lived. lived and the type of work he

1:38:01

did. He is not in our country but

1:38:04

had indicated that he would be travelling for

1:38:06

work to near us shortly and they'd made

1:38:08

some plans to meet. And when she got

1:38:10

some red flags and backed out, the dude

1:38:13

threatened to publish these pictures online. I am,

1:38:15

incidentally, an attorney. So, some searching later and

1:38:17

gathering up any pictures he sent her of

1:38:19

him that could possibly identify him, his online

1:38:22

handle led me to a TikTok page, which

1:38:24

led me to an Instagram page with his

1:38:26

name on it. That led to a LinkedIn

1:38:28

page with his place of work that

1:38:31

matched a picture he sent with a

1:38:33

branded polo he was wearing. Some more

1:38:35

searches got me the email of the

1:38:37

CEO, the VP of HR, operations manager

1:38:39

and the public relations manager. I just

1:38:42

fired off an email on behalf of

1:38:44

my client of the screenshots of him

1:38:46

threatening revenge prompts, snippets of the conversation

1:38:48

showing that username while he sent that

1:38:50

exact picture of him wearing his company's

1:38:52

branded apparel, links to how I

1:38:55

know it's him, along with pictures he sent her

1:38:57

of his motorcycle with a license plate showing as

1:38:59

further proof that it is him. I

1:39:01

also included screenshots of him discussing a

1:39:03

workplace incident that were time stamps, along

1:39:05

with pieces of dialogue discussing how he

1:39:07

had sex with an ex at his

1:39:09

place of work and discussing plans to

1:39:11

have sex with her in his office

1:39:13

as well. I also included a picture

1:39:16

he sent her showing his work laptop

1:39:18

with his entire outlet calendar along with

1:39:20

proprietary information which he sent to prove

1:39:22

he was busy, along with other pictures

1:39:24

he took of his workplace with non-consenting

1:39:26

employees. I further informed his employer that

1:39:28

I will be forwarding all this information

1:39:30

to local, to them, law enforcement and

1:39:32

since he'd indicated that he'd be travelling

1:39:34

to the US soon, will also forward

1:39:36

this to the local office of the

1:39:39

Federal Bureau of Investigation. As

1:39:41

since my client is a US citizen on

1:39:43

US soil, these threats constituted a federal crime

1:39:45

so that should they continue with his employment

1:39:47

and continue with their plans to send him

1:39:50

to the United States for work, I will

1:39:52

ensure on behalf of my client that federal

1:39:54

law enforcement is waiting for him on arrival,

1:39:56

which I will do as one of the

1:39:59

assistant US attorneys for this region is

1:40:01

a law school buddy of mine. Since

1:40:03

I have his license plate, I know

1:40:05

where he lives and we'll be contacting

1:40:07

his local authorities tomorrow. You dumb mother

1:40:09

effer, thinking you were hiding around anonymity,

1:40:11

thinking you could threaten my friend, it

1:40:14

took me 45 minutes to destroy your

1:40:16

life. Okay, so I'm recording this on

1:40:18

the 5th of April, 2024. What

1:40:21

I've just read there was posted on the 4th of April

1:40:23

in the morning and there was

1:40:25

an update to come, phenomenally, which was

1:40:28

posted literally just a few hours ago

1:40:30

at the time of recording this. Now, before we get into

1:40:32

that, I just wanna give my initial thoughts. Yeah, I mean,

1:40:34

what else can you say really other than, you know,

1:40:37

eff around and find out? If you're gonna

1:40:39

try something like this and you're not clever

1:40:41

and you're leaving clues and hints as to

1:40:43

who you really are, in

1:40:45

the modern day with technology, it's really not

1:40:47

that hard to do a little bit of

1:40:49

digging. I mean, yes, you've got unlucky, I

1:40:51

guess unlucky in air quotes here that

1:40:54

the person that you're doing this to has

1:40:56

a friend who's a good lawyer, but I

1:40:58

mean, anyone could do this. It's

1:41:00

not that hard. If you're leaving clues like

1:41:02

this, it's so easy to find who you

1:41:04

are, where you live, who you work for,

1:41:06

et cetera, et cetera. And you've just ruined

1:41:08

your entire life. What for? For threatening something

1:41:10

stupid like this? Really, was it worth it?

1:41:13

Obviously not. I mean, you deserve

1:41:15

it, absolutely, but you're just so dumb. Then

1:41:17

again, he's probably not expecting this sort of level.

1:41:19

I would love to see his face as he

1:41:21

realizes this unravels. I mean, we're gonna get into

1:41:24

the update right now to see what happens next,

1:41:26

but my word, imagine this. You send off a

1:41:28

threat online, think nothing of it, think, oh, I'm

1:41:30

so clever and anonymous here and I'm gonna get

1:41:32

what I want. And then the following

1:41:35

happens. Let's get into the update. Okay, now

1:41:37

let's get into the update of that one.

1:41:39

It posted just 22 hours ago at the

1:41:41

time of recording. Like I said in the

1:41:43

intro, this is a very fresh story. So

1:41:45

barely 12 hours later, this happened.

1:41:48

Before I get into the update though, I

1:41:50

want to clarify a few things from

1:41:52

my original post, primarily about the contact

1:41:54

of the employer and why. Some

1:41:56

questioned its truthfulness. While the entire

1:41:58

story is true, some details were omitted

1:42:00

for various reasons. There was more she and

1:42:03

I had in our possession that did positively

1:42:05

identify this individual. So would a lawyer contact

1:42:07

his employer like some stated would not be

1:42:09

done? Well, it depends. I did not do

1:42:12

what I did on behalf of a client

1:42:14

who retained me. I did it as a

1:42:16

friend to help a friend. And

1:42:18

as her friend, who was also a labor

1:42:20

and employment law attorney, I knew exactly how

1:42:23

to squeeze this. And here is the thing.

1:42:25

I was absolutely aware from the onset that

1:42:27

the revenge-prong threat would go nowhere with his

1:42:30

employer. Even if I could clearly

1:42:32

lay out how the person with this screen

1:42:34

name was in fact, this person who works

1:42:36

at that company, all we had were screenshots.

1:42:39

If it was just the revenge-prong threat, any

1:42:41

employer would go, well, thank you for bringing

1:42:43

it to our attention. But even if we

1:42:45

accept our employee uses this screen name and

1:42:48

we neither confirm nor deny any one of

1:42:50

that name works here, we have no provenance

1:42:52

on this. This is just an

1:42:54

alleged screenshot of an alleged conversation that

1:42:56

could be easily edited and manipulated. Please

1:42:59

feel free to pursue this with local

1:43:01

authorities. And rest assured, should we be asked

1:43:03

to, we will cooperate fully with any law

1:43:05

enforcement inquiry, but we have no further comment

1:43:07

at this time. Yeah, I guess that makes

1:43:10

sense. These days, it's so easy to edit

1:43:12

absolutely anything. And I guess that's why a

1:43:14

company couldn't really use it. And I know

1:43:16

that's what they would say because that's exactly

1:43:18

what I would say. An alleged screenshot of

1:43:21

an alleged conversation that was allegedly sent under

1:43:23

an alleged username and it's allegedly one of

1:43:25

our employees, whatever, dude. Call the cops if

1:43:27

you're worrying about it. We'll answer them honestly

1:43:30

if they come to us. So no,

1:43:32

the issue wasn't the revenge-prong threat. It

1:43:34

was the picture of the contents of

1:43:36

the work laptop because that can't be

1:43:38

fixed. There's no way of her or

1:43:40

me to create a false image of

1:43:42

the actual proprietary information on his work

1:43:45

computer unless he sends it. There is

1:43:47

no way for me or her to

1:43:49

have possession of images taken of his

1:43:51

coworkers without their consent unless he sent

1:43:53

them. The proof here wasn't that this

1:43:55

person broke the law. It's that he

1:43:57

sent pictures of company, employees, and property.

1:44:00

which would absolutely be verifiable by their

1:44:02

IT department, that yes, this absolutely is

1:44:04

his laptop. That's what would get him

1:44:06

fired. So I advise my friend not

1:44:08

to block him, to sit back and

1:44:11

wait and not respond to anything but

1:44:13

let him dig himself deeper. And respond

1:44:15

he did. Oh and one more update,

1:44:17

he's been fired. So with now definitive

1:44:19

proof that the individual in the online

1:44:22

conversation is in fact his person, we'll

1:44:24

forward it all to the local authorities

1:44:26

in his country along with his license

1:44:28

plate number. They are more than capable

1:44:30

of getting his home address. Well, OP fair

1:44:33

play to you. It's one thing me saying

1:44:35

at the end of the first post, you

1:44:37

know, it's easy to do this now to

1:44:39

track people down online. It's another thing doing

1:44:41

it legally and making sure you know exactly

1:44:43

what you're doing and then carrying out what

1:44:46

you want to happen so well

1:44:48

to as you say, yeah, completely destroy this

1:44:50

guy's life very fairly and very justly in

1:44:52

just what 45 minutes. I don't really get

1:44:55

why people need an extra explanation. I think

1:44:57

you explained it perfectly at the start OP.

1:45:00

There are a few weird comments down below. Apparently

1:45:02

people were confused. I wasn't confused. I think you

1:45:04

explained it perfectly well and yeah,

1:45:07

it was just really well executed from from

1:45:09

start to finish. Definitely the most professional nuclear

1:45:11

revenge that I've seen. Normally we get some

1:45:13

crazy stuff that is either bordering on illegal

1:45:16

or it's just very illegal. This was nuclear

1:45:18

because it absolutely destroyed someone's life but it

1:45:20

was so professionally and expertly done. It doesn't

1:45:22

even feel nuclear. It just feels right. Okay,

1:45:25

now let's move on to our next story

1:45:27

of nuclear revenge. How about this for a

1:45:29

title? Didn't really want to post on

1:45:31

this account but it's the only one that met

1:45:33

the karma requirements. Not too much

1:45:36

given away there. Let's go. Okay, there

1:45:38

with me. I'm dyslexic and sugar with writing.

1:45:40

Me and my girlfriend moved up to a

1:45:43

remote little town a year ago. It's so

1:45:45

peaceful and amazing. Best decision of our lives.

1:45:47

We were looking at places to buy and

1:45:49

we came across a house that was pretty

1:45:52

bad. The foundation was collapsing. The roof was

1:45:54

collapsing. There was a rodent problem but it

1:45:56

was on 10 acres or something close to

1:45:58

that. A beautiful place. I've learned. My girlfriend

1:46:00

falls in love with this place. It's 215,000. Yeah, not

1:46:03

gonna go for something

1:46:06

that's that bad. I work construction and

1:46:08

I don't want to come home to

1:46:10

then work again. Now my girlfriend's friend,

1:46:12

let's call her Patricia, sounds like a

1:46:14

female dog name. I never bothered trying

1:46:16

to remember her real one. Offer to

1:46:18

buy the place and then sell it

1:46:21

to us later. Yeah, no. She said

1:46:23

we'll talk about it, but I stand

1:46:25

on a hard no and then my

1:46:27

girlfriend tells Patricia no. Patricia and her

1:46:29

boyfriend, Mitch, that's his actual name. I

1:46:31

don't care if he sees this. In fact, I hope

1:46:33

they do. Wow, that is a rarity for someone on

1:46:35

Reddit to say, no, that is his actual name. No

1:46:37

fake nameset and I hope you see this. Already

1:46:39

bought the house thinking we'd buy it from

1:46:42

them for more than the 215K. But okay,

1:46:44

cool. My girlfriend has her friend moving out

1:46:46

here that she's known since she was three.

1:46:48

I told them that if they buy the

1:46:50

materials and the tools and I keep the

1:46:52

tools when they're done, I'll do the work

1:46:55

for them for no additional costs because I

1:46:57

lost all my tools when we moved. Now

1:46:59

this Mitch guy trashes all over me

1:47:01

about how he works in finance and doesn't

1:47:03

need any help. Okay, whatever. I tell him

1:47:05

what he needs to work on first because

1:47:07

there are major issues, but I get pooped

1:47:09

on again. Okay, let's talk about my girlfriend

1:47:11

now. So she has PTSD, BPD and a

1:47:13

couple of other things that I don't remember

1:47:15

off the top of my head. She struggles

1:47:17

to make friends. So this is a big

1:47:19

deal for her. She is super excited. So

1:47:21

when they get here, they don't visit her.

1:47:24

They don't give any idea that they talk

1:47:26

every day and every night, but then they

1:47:28

get here and they block her on everything.

1:47:30

It absolutely destroys her because

1:47:32

she doesn't understand what she did wrong.

1:47:35

Now they were upset and were cussing

1:47:37

her out because she apparently tricked them

1:47:39

into buying the place. She didn't.

1:47:41

I told them not to because I was never

1:47:43

going to say yes. Now fast

1:47:45

forward a year or so. They're on Facebook

1:47:47

complaining about all the issues that I pointed

1:47:50

out were issues they'd need to fix. So

1:47:52

this actual crackhead Mitch is cussing us out.

1:47:54

Now I am just tired of this at

1:47:56

this point. So I call the city and

1:47:58

pretty much wrap. them out. I say

1:48:01

they have plumbing issues, electrical issues, the roof

1:48:03

and the floors caving in, support issues, rodent

1:48:05

problem, all of which can get it condemned.

1:48:07

So guess what happened? I made a complaint

1:48:10

and got it condemned. Then I went to

1:48:12

his place of work and filed a report

1:48:14

with corporate about his drug issues because he's

1:48:16

a financial advisor at a bank and I

1:48:18

don't think he should be anywhere near anyone

1:48:21

else's money. I hope they enjoy 215,000

1:48:23

worth of debt with no job and nowhere

1:48:25

to stay because I'm done getting cussed out

1:48:27

and having them drag my girlfriend's name through

1:48:29

the mud because they thought they could jack

1:48:31

up the price and sell it to us.

1:48:34

Damn, what great friends they must be trying

1:48:36

to buy a house for you but in

1:48:38

reality just charge you more than the original

1:48:40

price of the house. Terrible people. What I

1:48:42

hope is that when the bank gets hold

1:48:44

of this house, repossesses it, that they kind

1:48:46

of, I don't know, look to resell it

1:48:49

to somebody like you for less than the original price. I

1:48:51

think what you'd then probably have to do is just knock

1:48:53

it all down and start again. It sounds like there are

1:48:55

so many issues here that aren't even worth bothering with so

1:48:57

maybe you'd have to do that and it probably would be

1:49:00

a lot of work. If you can make it work and

1:49:02

the price is not too expensive, it does sound like

1:49:04

it's a beautiful property and I feel like you've gone through

1:49:06

enough now to warrant that level of extra effort if you

1:49:08

can be bothered but yeah, as with the story just from

1:49:10

what I've read, all I can say is that they're just

1:49:13

terrible people. Imagine that saying, oh I can't wait to move

1:49:15

to your town, it's going to be so fun. I'm talking

1:49:18

every night like so excited to come down, spend

1:49:20

loads of time together and also I'm doing you

1:49:22

such a favour by buying this house for you,

1:49:24

we'll be in it for a short time, we'll

1:49:26

sell it to you for a cheaper price. We'll

1:49:29

make sure it's ready for you and no one

1:49:31

else gets it. Then just blocking them and saying,

1:49:33

oh actually you can't have the house and also

1:49:35

why did you force us to buy it? Great

1:49:38

friends right there. Not going to pay me overtime,

1:49:40

think again. I was discussing this sub with a

1:49:42

good friend and he said, boy have I got

1:49:44

a story that will fit. Now it wasn't his

1:49:46

story but his brother's and I sat with him

1:49:49

and got the details. Buckle up, it's a

1:49:51

good one and a long one. Let's call

1:49:53

him Bob. Bob has been fiddling with computers

1:49:55

since he was a kid and knows them

1:49:58

pretty well. As with most ITPs He's

1:50:00

moved from job to job. The employee

1:50:02

he worked for was a service distribution

1:50:04

company and there were two IT employees

1:50:07

The company was located in Ontario,

1:50:09

Canada. About three years ago Bob's

1:50:11

employer decided to modernize their software

1:50:13

They had separate programs for dispatching

1:50:16

for inventory for payroll and finances

1:50:18

And it was complicated moving information

1:50:20

from one program to the other

1:50:22

they decided to get an ERP Enterprise

1:50:25

Resource Planning Program and Bob recommended one

1:50:27

that he knew inside out From a

1:50:30

previous employer. For those of you who

1:50:32

don't know an ERP program handles everything

1:50:35

Purchase orders, sales, inventory, personnel, vendors, customers,

1:50:37

all of it You can run a

1:50:39

report and find out which customer has

1:50:41

bought the most part ABC in the

1:50:44

last year Which salesman has

1:50:46

improved his numbers the most? Which vendor

1:50:48

has the fastest delivery time? Which shipper

1:50:50

pack the most orders? Everyone in the

1:50:52

company used the ERP program But

1:50:54

it was very complicated and they used

1:50:56

the aspects of it that related to

1:50:58

their position For example, the receiver would

1:51:01

accept the shipment, verify the quantity, confirm

1:51:03

It was received and the inventory stats

1:51:05

would be available to the sales people

1:51:07

if they wanted to look up how

1:51:09

many were on hand The

1:51:11

receiver didn't care what the price was or

1:51:13

who the vendor was. He just did his

1:51:15

job Now Bob was run ragged

1:51:17

during the implementation process But he managed

1:51:19

to train most of the employees on

1:51:21

their aspects and after a few months

1:51:24

Everything was running fairly smoothly Bob

1:51:26

still got tickets for tweaks in the

1:51:28

operation of the software and occasional hardware

1:51:31

IT issues Then the company decided to

1:51:33

expand their footprint and was marketing into

1:51:35

different time zones that messed things up

1:51:38

Atlantic Canada is 90 minutes early So if

1:51:40

someone sent an email or an order at

1:51:42

8 a.m. Their time it would arrive at

1:51:44

6 30 a.m. Ontario time

1:51:47

Pacific Canada is three hours late. So an email

1:51:49

sent at 3 p.m. Thank you a time would

1:51:52

arrive at 6 p.m This

1:51:54

stretched out the day so many staff came

1:51:56

in early and worked late Bob would arrive

1:51:58

at 8 a.m And then people that

1:52:00

demanded his immediate assistance and were annoyed

1:52:02

that he didn't respond instantly even though

1:52:05

their request was submitted before his start

1:52:07

time. Same with later in the day.

1:52:09

His phone would ring at dinner

1:52:11

time with people that wanted help right now.

1:52:13

They decided to stagger his and his IT

1:52:15

colleague's shift times. Bob would start at 6am

1:52:17

and work until 2.30 and his colleague would

1:52:20

start at 10.30am and work till

1:52:23

7. Bob's colleague had kids and

1:52:25

refused the shift change. The

1:52:27

employer insisted the colleague

1:52:29

quits. That meant that Bob was

1:52:31

the only person in the IT department. The

1:52:33

employer said they'd looked to hire a new

1:52:35

IT guy but they had trouble finding one

1:52:38

that knew the ERP system and they were

1:52:40

offering well under a market value salary. Bob

1:52:42

asked for a raise and was denied. Then

1:52:44

he wanted overtime and the employer told

1:52:47

him that as an IT specialist he

1:52:49

was exempt from overtime laws in Ontario.

1:52:52

Bob looked it up and the employer was

1:52:54

correct. This went on for some time and

1:52:56

he knew lots of IT people socially. They

1:52:58

told him what the company was offering and

1:53:00

Bob knew that they wouldn't find another tech.

1:53:02

Things went downhill from there. Bob would get

1:53:04

chewed out if he missed a call or

1:53:06

an email no matter what time it came

1:53:08

in. He had to train new hires in

1:53:11

the ERP system as well as take care

1:53:13

of the hardware. He asked repeatedly for better

1:53:15

compensation and was denied so he planned

1:53:17

to get a new job. Now here

1:53:19

is the revenge. Bob had access to

1:53:21

the entirety of the ERP program. When

1:53:23

a user signed in the time was

1:53:25

logged and even if they didn't sign

1:53:27

out after 15 minutes it would log

1:53:29

them out anyway. Everyone in the

1:53:31

company was on salary and many of them came in

1:53:33

early and stayed late. Ontario Labor

1:53:36

Laws states that even salaried workers

1:53:38

are entitled to overtime after 44

1:53:40

hours a week unless

1:53:42

they were managers or supervisors. So

1:53:44

Bob jumped into the program and ran a

1:53:47

report for each employee that wasn't a manager

1:53:49

all the way back to when the ERP

1:53:51

program was started. Then he reached

1:53:53

out to an employment lawyer and got the

1:53:55

okay to refer employees to him. Bob lined

1:53:57

up another job and after he left Every

1:54:00

employee in the company got an email with an

1:54:02

Excel sheet showing the hours they had put in

1:54:04

past 44 hours a week. The

1:54:07

subject line said, you're legally

1:54:10

entitled to overtime pay, and

1:54:12

in the body of the email was the

1:54:14

lawyer's name. The poop hit the fan. Almost

1:54:17

every employee authorised the lawyer to negotiate with

1:54:19

the company on their behalf, and the company

1:54:21

had to pay a ton of money. All

1:54:24

the company had to do was pay Bob

1:54:26

for the extra work he put in. Instead,

1:54:29

they had to pay almost everyone. Okay, great

1:54:31

revenge, I'm not gonna lie, but my main

1:54:33

takeaway from this, my main emotion, it's just

1:54:35

feeling bad for just all the employees in

1:54:38

general to work for this horrible company. Bob

1:54:40

obviously on the one hand having to do

1:54:42

not just two people's jobs, but more like

1:54:44

it seems like five or six. I

1:54:47

mean those shift times are ridiculous, and he is the

1:54:49

only one that knows how this all works. That is

1:54:51

such a specialised role that he's not even being paid

1:54:53

for properly at all. I mean it's not even close,

1:54:55

it sounds like. And then all

1:54:57

the other employees who were doing overtime

1:55:00

but then haven't been getting paid for it. What

1:55:02

if Bob had never done this? They would have

1:55:04

just done all those hours and never been given

1:55:06

the money for them? That is ridiculous. So

1:55:09

yeah, I mean shut up Bob for

1:55:11

helping out so many employees that were

1:55:13

just being completely manipulated and just not

1:55:15

given what they deserved. It's just

1:55:17

sad that it had to come to that. Crazy. Pay

1:55:19

the man the money he's worth for

1:55:21

his skill and this would never

1:55:24

ever have happened. But then again you could

1:55:26

also say just pay the employees what they

1:55:28

deserve and are owed for the overtime and they'll

1:55:30

probably be more happy as well and it would

1:55:32

just contribute to a much better working environment

1:55:35

and the company would probably do way

1:55:37

better because of it. I

1:55:39

don't know, it's just a weird one. I feel

1:55:41

like it's backwards policy from a company like this

1:55:43

just trying to you know, skrimp and save money

1:55:45

when in reality you're expanding, you're clearly doing well.

1:55:48

Pay your staff more and they'll pay it back

1:55:50

to you in terms of output and yeah the

1:55:52

company will just do better. I don't know. It's

1:55:54

just weird business practice isn't it really but um,

1:55:57

great revenge nonetheless. 70

1:56:00

plus years ago and I just made sure

1:56:02

it stayed ruined. When I was in college

1:56:04

in the 90s I met Jake, then a

1:56:06

23 year old man through mutual friends. He

1:56:09

had already graduated and was planning to move

1:56:11

to the opposite side of the United States

1:56:13

for grad school and I had already been

1:56:15

making plans to move with friends only a

1:56:17

90 minute drive away from where he was

1:56:19

moving to. We had so

1:56:21

much in common, fell in love and

1:56:23

it really seemed like fate, both planning

1:56:25

to move 3000 miles and landing so

1:56:27

close together. He had two sisters

1:56:30

and a younger brother who were all awesome

1:56:32

people and I became instant friends with them

1:56:34

as well. Because he was in school

1:56:36

and I was working, I would usually go to him

1:56:38

to hang out on the weekends. He was

1:56:40

renting a house with two roommates also in

1:56:42

his program. We were young so money was

1:56:44

tight but we had fun, went for taco

1:56:46

dates and spent a lot of time at

1:56:48

his house where he was breeding and selling

1:56:51

small animals. Jake was an animal sciences PhD

1:56:53

student so being around animals was normal and

1:56:55

I loved it. I became

1:56:57

friends with his advisors wife, Mary who

1:56:59

was in her mid 50s who worked

1:57:01

in administration at the university. She

1:57:04

is a lovely woman, I'd often have lunch

1:57:06

with her when I went over on the

1:57:08

weekends. Jake was a teaching assistant and I

1:57:10

met other people in the program and made

1:57:12

friends with them faster than he did. After

1:57:14

about two years of dating, I was at

1:57:16

the house one day, laying in bed together

1:57:18

in a state of some undress and he

1:57:20

said, out of the blue, he was concerned

1:57:22

I'd been gaining weight and it made it

1:57:24

harder for him to be attracted to me.

1:57:26

No concern about my health, it was all about

1:57:29

him finding me unattractive. I

1:57:31

sat up and said, well then maybe you

1:57:33

should make sure there's better food for me

1:57:35

to eat than crackers and cheese when I

1:57:37

come up on weekends. Even

1:57:39

at 23, I didn't take that kind

1:57:41

of BS. I had gained maybe 10

1:57:43

pounds since meeting him two years earlier

1:57:45

and still wore the same size clothes

1:57:47

about a US size 6-8. I

1:57:50

wasn't going to engage in a fight about it

1:57:52

after all, it was his problem, not mine so

1:57:54

I asked him calmly. What is your

1:57:56

solution to this? He stared at

1:57:58

me blankly and said, well... Well I

1:58:00

guess that you should try to lose weight. And

1:58:03

I said, nah I'm not gonna do

1:58:05

that so what are you going to do

1:58:07

about it? He said, well

1:58:09

I guess nothing, I wanted to let you

1:58:11

know how I feel. And I

1:58:13

said, cool, thank you, put my clothes back on,

1:58:16

went to sleep and drove home the next day

1:58:18

as usual. We keep dating and about 3 months

1:58:20

later he called me and said he wanted to

1:58:22

break up after close to 3 years. The

1:58:26

reason, and I quote, you don't

1:58:28

know enough about science. He

1:58:30

felt like he couldn't have a conversation with

1:58:32

me about his work where he didn't have

1:58:34

to use common names for animals instead of

1:58:36

scientific ones. I said, well that

1:58:38

bull was the real reason. He

1:58:41

said it was the real reason, he came

1:58:43

to see me a month later to return

1:58:45

something of mine and I confronted him, demanding

1:58:47

the real reason. He finally admitted that he'd

1:58:49

been seeing one of his undergrad students, let's

1:58:52

call her Meg, a 19 year old. She

1:58:54

was then 26 and her teacher. I

1:58:57

screamed at him to leave, my roommate threatened

1:58:59

to throw him off our second floor balcony

1:59:01

if he didn't go and he left.

1:59:04

It hit me all at once after he walked

1:59:06

out and I went from rage to stunned laughter.

1:59:09

I'd actually met Meg a few times and at

1:59:11

one point she was at his house for a

1:59:13

barbecue and spilled something all over her pants. Jake

1:59:16

asked me if I could loan her some sweats. Now

1:59:18

I couldn't because I was a size 8 and

1:59:21

she was a size 18. There's

1:59:23

nothing wrong with that at all but

1:59:25

the point is, I realised he made

1:59:27

those comments about my weight to try

1:59:29

and get me to break up with

1:59:31

him because he was a coward. He

1:59:34

clearly liked a big girl. Although

1:59:36

when he said those things to me about my weight,

1:59:38

it was 1am. I lived about 95

1:59:41

miles away and we'd just had sex so I

1:59:43

don't know how he thought that would go. Even

1:59:46

in hindsight, it perplexes me. Did

1:59:48

he think I was going to break up with him

1:59:50

and storm off into the night and drive for an

1:59:52

hour and a half? Anyway, I emailed his room mates.

1:59:54

It was the early 2000s. It's how

1:59:56

you communicate anything you didn't want to say on

1:59:58

the phone. to let them know

2:00:00

that we've broken up and they were always lovely to

2:00:03

me and I thank them for being friends. They

2:00:05

both admitted though that they knew about Meg

2:00:07

and were the ones to demand that Jake

2:00:09

tell me all they would. That is when

2:00:11

he broke up with me with the lame

2:00:13

you don't understand science excuse. One

2:00:16

of his roommates, a super nice super cute guy

2:00:18

named George offered to help me get a few

2:00:20

things to look at their house that he collected

2:00:22

for me away from around the house. He suggested

2:00:25

I come up for the weekend. We go out

2:00:27

and drink, have a good time, all the things

2:00:29

that Jake didn't want to waste money on and

2:00:31

I said sure. So I went up and George

2:00:33

let me into the house while Jake was gone.

2:00:36

I took photos of all of his animals because

2:00:38

while I might not be a PhD student I

2:00:40

paid attention and I knew he had an endangered

2:00:42

species in his care. He wasn't

2:00:44

breeding it, it was an unreleasable animal

2:00:46

that he'd taken in from a rescue

2:00:49

organization. There was paperwork he had to submit

2:00:51

with a $25 fee and he refused to

2:00:53

do it saying he didn't want the government

2:00:55

in his business. I took photos

2:00:57

of that animal, all his breeding conditions

2:00:59

and a photo of an animal not

2:01:01

allowed in the state which was in

2:01:04

a tank right next to a window

2:01:06

and visible from outside. I then

2:01:08

went out for a night on the

2:01:10

town with George. We stumbled in early

2:01:12

around midnight so Jake and Meg who

2:01:15

were watching TV would see me in

2:01:17

a short dress, drunk and George practically

2:01:19

carrying me. I spent the night

2:01:21

in George's room. He was a total

2:01:23

gentleman but made sure to leave the room and parade

2:01:25

past them in his boxes a few times and

2:01:28

we giggled and moaned loudly so they could hear

2:01:30

us. When I went to leave

2:01:32

the next morning Jake said I didn't have to

2:01:34

act like a whore in front of him as

2:01:37

I ate a doughnut slowly in my rumpled dress

2:01:39

with messy hair while George beamed at me and

2:01:41

then planted a kiss on my forehead. Meg

2:01:44

looked ashamed not quite knowing where to

2:01:46

look and I said have fun with

2:01:48

my leftovers and walked out. I wanted

2:01:51

to think that the petty loud hookup

2:01:53

and a few juvenile insults was my revenge.

2:01:56

It was not. The next day I had

2:01:58

my photos developed. Ah the good days and

2:02:00

I called the state office of fish and

2:02:02

wildlife. I reported the animals in the house,

2:02:05

the potential overcrowding of breeding animals and the

2:02:07

two animals he shouldn't legally have at all

2:02:09

in the state and I asked them how

2:02:11

to make a report. Well it turns out

2:02:13

that Jake wasn't well liked by his peers

2:02:16

in his programme or by his roommates but

2:02:18

I was! George had suggested

2:02:20

that he and their other roommate could

2:02:22

submit complaints to the university that a

2:02:24

TA was sleeping with one of his

2:02:26

students and showing her favouritism. The

2:02:28

night we were out at the bars we made sure to

2:02:31

tell the story to anyone who they knew. They

2:02:33

made sure all the women in his classes

2:02:35

knew he was sleeping with Mick. It

2:02:38

wasn't a large programme, people knew fast

2:02:40

that he cheated and was now dating

2:02:42

a student. George and the other roommate

2:02:44

made sure people knew they had put

2:02:46

in complaints. They were sick of Jake's

2:02:49

entitled BS. With my full statement

2:02:51

made and photos sent to the state wildlife

2:02:53

officials, I called my friend Mary, Jake's advisor's

2:02:55

wife. She knew about the break up and

2:02:57

the lame reason and I let her know

2:02:59

that he admitted he was sleeping with the

2:03:01

student. I'd been emailing with him and

2:03:03

he admitted to it in writing so I

2:03:06

sent that to Mary. To say she was

2:03:08

not happy about that was an understatement. She

2:03:10

said she made sure it would be investigated

2:03:12

and told her husband, Jake's direct advisor while

2:03:15

I was on the phone with her. Speaking

2:03:17

of investigations, a few weeks later George called

2:03:19

me, Giddy, to say that state fish and

2:03:22

wildlife officials were there, confiscating the animals. He

2:03:24

told them he'd be happy to tell them

2:03:26

whatever they needed to know. Meg was there

2:03:28

when it happened and told the officials that

2:03:31

as far as she knew, all the animals

2:03:33

belonged to her boyfriend Jake and that

2:03:35

they were all legal. That put

2:03:37

George and the other roommate in the clear. One

2:03:39

animal was kept in the backyard so it was

2:03:41

implied to Jake that a neighbour reported it. While

2:03:44

they were there to investigate, they knew to

2:03:46

look in the back window to see the

2:03:48

far more problematic, illegal to have in the

2:03:51

state under nearly any circumstances, animal. Since George

2:03:53

was on the lease, he was able to

2:03:55

let them in to investigate in the house.

2:03:58

The animals were all in communal areas and

2:04:00

the officers stayed there for a few hours and

2:04:02

returned with a warrant to take all the animals

2:04:05

and enter Jake's room to investigate. George and

2:04:07

the other roommate let them into their rooms

2:04:09

with no issues and they were quickly cleared.

2:04:12

Meg apparently couldn't get a hold of Jake

2:04:14

and eventually drove to the university to find

2:04:16

him. Remember no cell phones yet. It

2:04:18

was a good day. The only animals

2:04:21

they left were some guppies in a fish

2:04:23

tank. Now, PhD students need grant money to

2:04:25

do research and a large part of animal

2:04:27

studies funding comes from the federal government. Jake

2:04:30

had just gotten an EPA grant right

2:04:32

around when he broke up with me.

2:04:34

So I called the EPA and asked

2:04:36

how I would report that a person

2:04:38

with a federal grant was being investigated

2:04:40

for illegally harboring endangered animals. Long

2:04:43

story short, he lost his EPA

2:04:45

grant and had to make restitution

2:04:47

on what had already been used

2:04:49

close to $30,000. He would

2:04:51

never be able to get another federal grant. He

2:04:54

avoided jail time on the state charges

2:04:56

since all the animals were in good

2:04:58

health but lost all his breeding animals

2:05:00

worth thousands of dollars since they were

2:05:02

collected for safekeeping during the investigation when

2:05:04

the two illegal animals were taken. In

2:05:07

the end, he owed a $15,000 fine and

2:05:10

the two animals went to a nearby

2:05:12

nature center. For years, I would stop

2:05:14

by if I was in the area

2:05:16

to visit them. The university revoked his

2:05:18

scholarship and fired him from teaching for

2:05:20

having an inappropriate relationship with a student.

2:05:22

He somehow escaped being expelled but it

2:05:24

always shocked me that he never tried to

2:05:27

hide the relationship with Meg and was so

2:05:29

stupidly self-assured that he didn't even wait the

2:05:31

full weeks until she would have been done

2:05:33

with his class to start publicly dating her.

2:05:36

By the university rules, he would have then been

2:05:38

in the clear to date her, not being her

2:05:40

teacher anymore and she would just have to avoid

2:05:42

any classes he was a TA in. It

2:05:45

never fails to make me laugh. After a

2:05:47

few months, I emailed his sisters and told

2:05:49

them I missed them because Jake broke up

2:05:51

with me after trying to call me fat

2:05:53

and cheating on me and I felt weird

2:05:55

contacting them. The girls told me that

2:05:58

he told the family I broke up with him because

2:06:00

of the distance. I forwarded them

2:06:02

emails that Jake wrote after the breakup, talking about

2:06:05

how he fell for Meg and he was sorry

2:06:07

about it but it was true. I couldn't

2:06:09

keep up with him academically and it made

2:06:11

him attracted to Meg. Jake managed to convince

2:06:13

his dad to pay for one more year

2:06:16

of school so that he could get a

2:06:18

master's instead of a PhD. And while I

2:06:20

stayed in contact with his sisters and brother

2:06:22

via email and then social media, I largely

2:06:24

let it all go. I got

2:06:26

even, I made some friends, Mary became like

2:06:29

an auntie to me and I went on with life.

2:06:31

I went on to get a master's

2:06:34

degree myself and my specialty helping scientists

2:06:36

and doctors communicate their work to lay

2:06:38

people. You know, us dummies who can't

2:06:40

remember all the scientific names. I

2:06:43

swear it happened by accident, not

2:06:45

design, but I love it and

2:06:47

I work with everyone from small-town doctors

2:06:49

and nurses to pharmaceutical companies to museums

2:06:52

to state and federal governments to film

2:06:54

and TV producers. I travel a

2:06:56

lot and speak and get to learn a lot of

2:06:58

cool things about our planet and how

2:07:00

things work. That is amazing. I knew through

2:07:03

his siblings that Jake and Meg got married

2:07:05

and had two kids. Meg dropped out of

2:07:07

the sciences and became an accountant. Jake went

2:07:09

back to breeding animals. Every once in a

2:07:11

while his sisters or brother would tell me

2:07:14

something over a lunch or via text but

2:07:16

we had our own relationship that exists outside

2:07:18

of him. Apparently when I sent

2:07:20

a wedding gift for one of his sisters,

2:07:22

he loudly complained as a co-ed bridal shower

2:07:25

that all of his siblings still were my

2:07:27

friend and didn't make an effort to embrace

2:07:29

his now wife, Meg. Apparently

2:07:31

the sister just laughed and said, I don't

2:07:34

make it a habit to be friends

2:07:36

with homewreckers. This is how Jake's parents

2:07:38

found out how their relationship started and

2:07:41

ours ended truthfully, 10 years

2:07:43

after we broke up. Jake

2:07:45

never found out I was behind reporting him

2:07:47

to the state and in the end I

2:07:50

didn't lie about a single thing except maybe

2:07:52

exaggerating a drunken make out session with George

2:07:54

who was now a successful and tenured professor

2:07:56

with a lovely wife and daughters. Now fast

2:07:58

forward about 20 years to a few weeks

2:08:00

ago. I was at a university giving a lecture to

2:08:02

a room of 250 undergrad and grad students.

2:08:05

In the end, I was mingling

2:08:07

with the students afterwards and I

2:08:09

hear a voice say, Hey, OP,

2:08:11

long time no see. And

2:08:14

I realized it's Jake. And

2:08:16

my facial expression did not change

2:08:19

at all. I was completely shocked that

2:08:21

my instincts was to play dumb. So

2:08:24

I said, I'm sorry, help me out.

2:08:26

Have we met at another workshop or

2:08:28

lecture? He looked incredulous

2:08:30

and said, it's me, Jake.

2:08:33

And I said, I can't place you, but

2:08:35

I'd love to figure it out. Finally,

2:08:37

I gasped and said, Oh my goodness, Jake,

2:08:40

I guess I blocked you out. And I

2:08:42

said, well, lovely to see you. And I

2:08:44

moved on quickly when he tried to reach

2:08:46

out and hug me. I was

2:08:48

happy to leave it there with the satisfaction

2:08:50

of him seeing me as a guest lecturer

2:08:52

in a science department of a major university.

2:08:55

When he was just in the audience, the

2:08:57

department chair and faculty who'd invited me to

2:08:59

speak, took me out to dinner. And while

2:09:01

there, one of them said, so you know,

2:09:03

Jake. I said, I did from over 20

2:09:06

years ago, being vague about how she

2:09:08

went on to tell me that he had been

2:09:10

there for an interview for a teaching position and

2:09:13

I spent a few days there observing and they

2:09:15

were likely going to hire him. I couldn't

2:09:17

control it. I scoffed when

2:09:20

they all looked at me. I said,

2:09:22

I'm sorry. I'm just shocked that he's

2:09:24

teaching after what happened back at university.

2:09:27

They said, what happened? And I said,

2:09:29

well, he was sleeping with a 19 year old student when he

2:09:32

was 26 and he had to

2:09:34

leave the program without a PhD because he

2:09:36

couldn't afford to stay after losing his scholarship.

2:09:39

The three people I was with all looked at each

2:09:41

other like they knew they had a problem and said,

2:09:43

wow, we'll have to

2:09:45

look into that and change the subjects. My old

2:09:47

friend Mary retired a year or two now, but

2:09:49

still friendly with her old colleagues called me this

2:09:51

weekend to say a friend at the university let

2:09:54

her know that someone had called doing a background

2:09:56

check about Jake and they pulled his file, which

2:09:58

included being a student of the university. being

2:10:00

fired, leaving the program with a lower degree,

2:10:02

and the complaint letters from over 20 years

2:10:05

ago about his conduct. Mary's name had been on

2:10:07

it with her husband listed as the faculty advisor,

2:10:09

so she thought that she'd like to know. As

2:10:12

a bonus, it had a copy of his arrest

2:10:14

record for the illegal animals. I guess

2:10:16

his dad had paid for a decent lawyer to

2:10:18

get the record expunged after the charges were reduced,

2:10:20

and he paid the fines so it doesn't show

2:10:23

up on a standard background check. I

2:10:25

don't think he's gonna get that job. So,

2:10:27

I will return to my life, content that

2:10:29

the universe comes through sometimes, especially if you

2:10:31

give it a little nudge just now and

2:10:34

then. The best revenge is when you

2:10:36

don't have to do anything wrong, you just have

2:10:38

to help direct knowledge to the right places. If

2:10:41

there is anything I can impart to any

2:10:43

young women and men reading this, as I

2:10:45

shimmy happily into my now size 10 pants,

2:10:48

if someone who is supposed to love you

2:10:50

complains about your weight or looks, that is

2:10:52

their problem to fix mentally, not yours. And

2:10:55

maybe it's time to check out what they are doing

2:10:57

behind your back or simply move on. Remember

2:11:00

though, it's their flaw, not yours.

2:11:02

If Jake hadn't been a coward and tried to make me

2:11:04

break up with him and just ended things with me in

2:11:06

a mature way, I might not have

2:11:08

found out about Meg and turned his own

2:11:11

wickedness back on himself. Okay, and there we

2:11:13

go. That is the end of that one.

2:11:15

Wow. First thing I've gotta say

2:11:17

is, fantastic revenge, very much justified. There is

2:11:19

absolutely no way this guy should ever be

2:11:21

allowed to work in any form of education

2:11:24

again. He completely ruined that chance of having

2:11:26

a relationship as a TA with one of

2:11:28

the students. That is

2:11:30

my immediate conclusion there. And I'm very happy

2:11:32

to be fair that you've made sure and

2:11:34

you continue to ensure that that won't happen.

2:11:36

Now the next point is, and I wanna

2:11:38

ask you all thoughts on this guys. Do

2:11:40

you think that this guy, Jake,

2:11:43

should still be getting punished 20 years later for mistakes

2:11:45

that he made 20 years ago? Do you think that's

2:11:47

a little bit too long? I mean, do we still

2:11:49

punish him 80 years later for these mistakes? Are you

2:11:51

allowed to make mistakes? And you

2:11:53

know, be punished for them, sure. But

2:11:57

ultimately, I'm playing devil's advocate here slightly, but he's

2:11:59

done nothing. illegal, yet his life is

2:12:01

still being ruined. 20 years later,

2:12:03

is that not a little bit harsh or is that justice

2:12:05

for what he did? I mean, we

2:12:07

don't know the effect that it had on the

2:12:09

19 year old. Clearly, you know, he's abused that

2:12:12

level of power there and who knows what effect

2:12:14

it's had on the girl. But you

2:12:16

get what I'm saying, 20 years later, still getting punished

2:12:18

for something he did when he was half his age.

2:12:21

I don't know. He's perhaps a little bit harsh, but

2:12:24

I think it's potentially fair. I also do

2:12:26

think that OP, like, let's just make sure

2:12:28

that she definitely has moved on and it's

2:12:30

not still kind of trauma in her mind.

2:12:32

Yes, it's great to make sure that someone has the

2:12:34

revenge they deserve, but 20 years of this, not saying

2:12:36

that, you know, she's done loads and it's always on

2:12:38

her mind, just I wanna make sure that she has

2:12:40

moved on with her life. I feel like by the

2:12:43

end, we are, we're getting towards that stage, but I

2:12:45

don't want it to be an ongoing thing for the

2:12:47

rest of her life, but yeah, I don't know. Maybe

2:12:49

it's just a little bit too much for it to

2:12:51

still be going on now. I think now's the time

2:12:53

to leave it. Or do we carry on and just

2:12:55

ruin this guy's life forever? Give me some real actual

2:12:57

answers in the comments. Not just, oh, he did a

2:12:59

terrible thing, he deserves for his entire life to be

2:13:01

ruined for 80 years and then die. Let's be realistic,

2:13:04

okay? I wanna hear some actual logic and some cohesive

2:13:06

thoughts, which to be fair, you guys always give me.

2:13:08

There's no need for me to say that, but you

2:13:10

get what I'm saying. I mean, you could also say

2:13:12

that, you know, the revenge was at the time good.

2:13:15

You told the correct authorities, the

2:13:17

school, whatever it's

2:13:19

called, fish and animal people, the people that deal

2:13:21

with animals, about what was going on. They came

2:13:23

in and dealt with it, that was it. And

2:13:25

again, I have to maintain that he should not

2:13:27

work in a school again. But outside of that,

2:13:29

I don't know if he still deserves to be

2:13:32

getting punished. Maybe he does. I'm not

2:13:34

completely decided to be punished. I actually reckon he probably does.

2:13:36

It's just harsh, but you know, if you are the sort

2:13:38

of person that would do this, yeah,

2:13:41

maybe you do deserve to be punished forever. I don't know,

2:13:43

people in the comments are saying that

2:13:46

ultimately what he did was cheat on you in the 90s with

2:13:48

a woman over the age, over

2:13:51

the age of consent, over the legal age. So

2:13:53

it's a bad move, but it's not a crime.

2:13:55

How does he deserve to be punished 20 years later?

2:13:57

Even if he was the TA, people are saying that.

2:14:00

You know, what you did with George OP

2:14:02

was fantastic and angry, that was brilliant. No

2:14:04

doubt about that. And maybe even think Friends

2:14:06

of the Family is fine as well, although

2:14:08

to be fair, a little bit weird, 20

2:14:11

years later. But yeah, like devastating the dude's

2:14:13

entire life, ruining his career, continuing to do

2:14:15

damage for decades afterwards. After he's like worked

2:14:17

his way back up from nothing and seeing

2:14:20

as if he's trying to live a proper

2:14:22

life, and he's still not doing that

2:14:24

well, right? I mean, he's applying for jobs that

2:14:26

probably should be, you know, a level

2:14:28

ahead of his 40s. And

2:14:31

I don't know, maybe it's just a

2:14:33

little bit too much. Again, maybe

2:14:35

I'm just waffling here. Let me know in

2:14:38

the comments down below, you guys are the

2:14:40

voice of reason on this channel, not me.

2:14:42

Got rude guy arrested for suspended license. In

2:14:44

the mid 2000s, my friends and I would

2:14:46

frequent a small billiards place in a neighboring

2:14:48

town where you could rent a table by

2:14:50

the hour or play per game. We'd play

2:14:52

a few games, watch whatever sports were on

2:14:55

TV, and have casual conversations. There were no

2:14:57

problems and no drama until about three months

2:14:59

of us visiting this place. A guy shows

2:15:01

up and takes our spot at the billiards

2:15:03

table. No big deal, we were all chatting

2:15:05

anyway. 20 minutes later, my friend

2:15:08

lets him know that we want to play

2:15:10

the next game, but this jerk is super

2:15:12

dismissive. Needless to say, we didn't get in

2:15:14

during the next game. So I politely let

2:15:16

him know we wanted to play next. Another

2:15:19

lady chimed in that she wanted the game

2:15:21

after us. The guy blatantly ignored

2:15:23

me and the other woman. Some more

2:15:25

time goes by and the guy leaves

2:15:27

the table. We see our chance to

2:15:29

get in. We put the quarters in

2:15:31

and the balls are dispensed, except the

2:15:33

green six ball. The guy took

2:15:35

it to the bathroom with him. At this point,

2:15:38

it was ridiculous and we notified the manager. The

2:15:40

manager noted it was 12.30 and

2:15:42

they were going to be calling last call

2:15:44

and closing, so he didn't want to make

2:15:46

a scene by kicking him out. He gets

2:15:48

us another ball so that we can play.

2:15:50

The guy comes out of the bathroom and

2:15:53

knows that we realized what he did. He

2:15:55

smirks and proceeds to the patio to have

2:15:57

a cigarette, bringing along his beer and the

2:15:59

green billiard ball. The guy comes back

2:16:01

in and toss the ball he was holding onto

2:16:03

the table, hitting a few balls on it and

2:16:05

messing up our game. He goes

2:16:07

up to the bar just in time for

2:16:09

last call. One of the friends I was

2:16:12

with suggested we follow him home and each

2:16:14

call the highway patrol to report a suspected

2:16:16

drunk driver. Three of four of us

2:16:18

agree. So when he leaves,

2:16:20

we used our trusty Nextel push to

2:16:22

talk phones and coordinated several calls to

2:16:24

the police. We provided details

2:16:27

like license plate, vehicle make, and model

2:16:29

and colour and mentioned the car nearly

2:16:31

hit another vehicle, was swerving between lines

2:16:33

and driving erratically. This was

2:16:36

under a 15 minute plan. We had

2:16:38

no idea where the guy lived but suspected

2:16:40

it was close as he was visiting a

2:16:42

neighbourhood place so our time was limited. The

2:16:44

one guy who didn't notify the police, tailed

2:16:46

the jerk and called us giddy when

2:16:48

a police officer pulled between him and

2:16:50

the guy and turned on his lights

2:16:52

to pull him over. The police blotter

2:16:55

that week included an arrest of a

2:16:57

guy who was pulled over after multiple

2:16:59

calls of erratic driving. He

2:17:01

wasn't arrested for DWI but instead

2:17:03

for driving on a suspended license.

2:17:06

Well there we go, dealt with phenomenally

2:17:08

well. I'm actually quite interested to know

2:17:10

how this guy wasn't done for drink

2:17:12

driving. Maybe he did just have a couple of drinks

2:17:15

and that was all. But still, I'm not

2:17:17

sure I'd necessarily advocate that even though it's

2:17:20

within the limit just about. But yeah, good

2:17:22

to see that you guys got some justice

2:17:24

because what kind of guy does this? I

2:17:26

mean seriously. Like fair enough if you want

2:17:29

to play an extra game. I mean is

2:17:31

that even fair? I'm not sure. You know if you

2:17:34

want to play two games and you say to people,

2:17:36

listen I know that you're waiting but I really just

2:17:38

want to play another game. I mean even then you

2:17:40

should just give a table up. Sorry you

2:17:42

should. But then what he did after that, taking

2:17:44

the green ball to the toilet. I mean

2:17:47

what? I've never heard of someone doing that.

2:17:50

And then ruining the game, the next game by

2:17:52

chucking it on the table just for the

2:17:54

sake of it. Why? I

2:17:56

think he deserves to be arrested just for that pettiness and just

2:17:58

being a jerk in general. Good revenge. Okay,

2:18:01

that's gonna do it for the first story

2:18:03

of revenge in this episode. Let's move on

2:18:05

to the second. Now, I wanna give a

2:18:07

little bit of context here because it might

2:18:09

seem like it's a little bit boring and

2:18:11

professional and mundane. But trust me, this isn't

2:18:13

one of those. It's really, really good and

2:18:15

the justice is excellent. It's definitely one of

2:18:17

the most well-written pieces that I've read in

2:18:19

a while. And it's about

2:18:22

someone that we all kind of

2:18:24

hate, right? Landlords.

2:18:26

I generally agree that landlords

2:18:28

aren't the best. They're sometimes

2:18:30

extremely difficult to work with and deal

2:18:32

with. But you may think

2:18:34

that residential landlords are bad. Actually, in

2:18:37

this situation, we have a story about

2:18:39

a commercial landlord who is absolutely horrible.

2:18:42

Without further ado, let's get into it.

2:18:44

A lawyer's pro-revenge on a landlord. Landlords

2:18:47

are jerks, generally speaking. Everyone

2:18:49

knows that. But if you think residential

2:18:51

landlords are bad, they are nothing compared

2:18:53

to commercial landlords. Most

2:18:55

of commercial buildings are some of the

2:18:57

cruelest, nastiest people I've ever come across.

2:19:00

This revenge tale is about a commercial landlord and

2:19:02

how I dealt with him. Back in the 90s,

2:19:04

sometimes I'd go for lunch at this restaurant in

2:19:07

the basement of our building. The

2:19:09

place was called The Vault because it had a

2:19:11

massive bank vault that had always been there, dating

2:19:13

back to the days before the place was turned

2:19:15

into a restaurant. The vault was

2:19:17

so huge that they could see a couple

2:19:19

of tables in there and you could eat

2:19:22

dinner surrounded by rows of old, gleaming, safe

2:19:24

deposit boxes. One day I

2:19:26

was there for lunch and the owner took

2:19:28

me aside. The landlord's driving me nuts, he

2:19:30

said. The landlord drives everyone house.

2:19:32

I was a subtenant in the same building,

2:19:34

sharing space with an old lawyer, Aaron, and

2:19:37

the landlord was always causing us trouble. I'd

2:19:39

already had a few run-ins with him and

2:19:41

we hated each other on site. In most

2:19:43

jurisdictions, commercial landlords don't need court orders to

2:19:45

get you out. Instead, they just change the

2:19:48

locks and you find out about it when

2:19:50

you show up and your key doesn't work.

2:19:53

Every time our landlord had a dispute with anyone, which

2:19:55

was often, he'd always threatened to change

2:19:57

the locks. stuff

2:20:00

for extra rent. And it's really weird

2:20:02

because a lot of it's really old.

2:20:04

The restaurant owner showed me a letter

2:20:06

the landlord had served on him earlier

2:20:08

that day. I looked over the demand

2:20:10

and read a list of expenses for

2:20:12

snow removal and parking lot repair and

2:20:14

common area flooring and all kinds of

2:20:16

trash going back years. I read

2:20:19

it all the way to the end and there

2:20:21

it was. The usual clause saying he was going

2:20:23

to change the locks if the tenant didn't pay

2:20:25

this and do that. From the wording of the

2:20:27

demand it looks like you've been fighting a while.

2:20:29

Why did you wait before consulting a lawyer?

2:20:31

I asked one of the lawyers I know

2:20:33

and he said it's hopeless. He told me

2:20:35

the lawyers name. It was a guy I

2:20:37

knew with a trashy real estate practice who

2:20:39

resorted to taking little legal aid cases to

2:20:41

keep the lights on when the market tanked

2:20:43

in 89. Did you do

2:20:46

something to make the landlord hate you? I asked.

2:20:48

Because this is a bit over the top even

2:20:50

for our jerk landlord. He knows I'm moving the

2:20:52

restaurant. I think he's trying to grab as much

2:20:55

money as possible before I go. Plus he's giving

2:20:57

me grief over the vault. He won't

2:20:59

let you take it with you? Are you kidding? It weighs

2:21:01

almost 100 tons and I don't

2:21:03

need it. But the lease says I have

2:21:05

to remove it and I also have to

2:21:07

restore the building to what it was before

2:21:09

there was a vault that would cost a

2:21:11

fortune. The jerk landlord says if I leave

2:21:13

the vault behind when I move he'll sue.

2:21:15

Send your lease up to my office and

2:21:17

let me look it over. I said. I

2:21:19

finished my lunch and when I got back

2:21:21

to my office the lease was waiting for

2:21:23

me. It was just as bad as the

2:21:25

restaurant owner said. The lease was a renewal

2:21:27

of a renewal of an assignment or

2:21:29

a renewal. The original documents dating

2:21:31

back to shortly after World War

2:21:33

2 when a bank first leased

2:21:36

the place and the vault was

2:21:38

installed. Somehow the landlord had

2:21:40

suckered the restaurant into taking over a

2:21:42

lease that left him liable to remove

2:21:44

a bank vault at the end of

2:21:46

the term. That is crazy. No big

2:21:49

deal I thought. The restaurant can default and

2:21:51

all the landlord can do is sue a

2:21:53

shell company. But when I got to the

2:21:56

last page of the lease there was a

2:21:58

guarantee clause. The restaurant owner had a

2:22:00

personally guaranteed the lease and he was on the

2:22:02

hook for removing a vault weighing 100

2:22:05

tons and then fixing the place up,

2:22:07

it would cost a fortune. To be

2:22:09

fair, moral of the story so far

2:22:11

is you've got to read the contract

2:22:13

in full for anything like this because

2:22:15

wow, being personally liable for a 100

2:22:17

ton vault is crazy. The case was

2:22:19

hopeless of course, that was obvious right

2:22:21

away but then I thought about the

2:22:23

jerk landlord with his demands and his

2:22:25

threats and his rent hikes and I

2:22:27

asked my brain to do me a

2:22:29

solid, which it promptly did. I picked

2:22:32

up the phone and called the restaurant owner.

2:22:34

I'm screwed right? You're calling me to say

2:22:36

there's no way out. That's what my commercial

2:22:39

lawyer already said but I

2:22:41

just thought I'd ask. Well I can save you,

2:22:43

but it's going to cost. How much? 5,000 illegals

2:22:46

and another G note for the

2:22:48

agent. Agent? What kind

2:22:50

of agent? Real estate. Send up a check,

2:22:52

certified and leave the rest to me. The

2:22:54

check hit my desk in less than an

2:22:56

hour. I went to Aaron's office. I

2:22:59

need a real estate agent, I said. You buying

2:23:01

a house? Nope. Selling

2:23:03

a house? Nope. By this

2:23:05

point I've been showing space with Aaron for almost

2:23:08

5 years and he knew me pretty well. You

2:23:10

pulling one of your stunts again? He asked. Yep,

2:23:13

but nothing that will get you into trouble. Alright,

2:23:16

I know a guy. Aaron knew

2:23:18

all kinds of guys and that's one of the

2:23:20

reasons he eventually got disbarred but he knew a

2:23:22

guy and he gave me the agent's name and

2:23:24

number and the next day I paid the agent

2:23:26

a visit. I told him what I needed and

2:23:28

we agreed to terms. I gave him some papers

2:23:30

and the cash for his fee. A few days

2:23:33

later I was again at the vault for lunch.

2:23:35

The owner saw me walk in and greeted me

2:23:37

himself. The landlord's here, he said.

2:23:39

Why? For lunch and

2:23:42

to be a jerk. Let's sit in the vault room so I

2:23:44

don't have to look at his face. He took

2:23:46

me to the vault room and with the door almost

2:23:48

completely closed, we had a consultation while

2:23:50

we ate pasta and drank red wine.

2:23:52

That's pretty elite by the way, I've

2:23:54

got to say. Imagine that. Sitting in

2:23:56

a vault having pasta drinking red wine.

2:23:59

That's like movie. seen right there but

2:24:01

I guess the circumstances aren't great to

2:24:03

be honest. So I said, we're making

2:24:05

demand on the landlord, munching on spaghetti

2:24:07

carbonara. Demand? What are we demanding? I

2:24:09

put a document out of my briefcase

2:24:11

and passed it to him while I

2:24:13

sip my wine. We're demanding that

2:24:15

the jerk landlord release all the restaurant

2:24:17

equipment, all the fixtures, the ovens, the

2:24:19

freezers, the ventilation, everything you need to

2:24:21

run a restaurant. The lease exempts all

2:24:23

that stuff. He can't stop me taking

2:24:25

what I want. The only thing that

2:24:28

matters is the vault and of course

2:24:30

I don't want that. But I shook

2:24:32

my head. You need the vault I said.

2:24:35

And we're demanding that he release the bank

2:24:37

vault as well. We're insisting that he let

2:24:39

you take it out within seven business days.

2:24:41

You think you can beat the landlord with

2:24:43

reverse psychology? You think if you treat him

2:24:45

like a two year old you can manipulate

2:24:47

him into doing what you want? Well, we'll

2:24:49

find out soon enough. He's had the demand

2:24:51

for a couple of days now. The restaurant

2:24:53

owner dropped his wine glass and it shattered

2:24:55

on the marble floor. You already gave it

2:24:57

to him. He said he got

2:24:59

up, swung open the vault door and called for

2:25:01

the waiter to clean up the mess. Let's see

2:25:03

what the landlord has to say. I told him

2:25:05

and we walked over to the landlord's table. The

2:25:08

landlord was a big beefy man with

2:25:10

a big appetite. He sat alone eating

2:25:12

wolfishly and with his hands. My client

2:25:14

needs an answer today. I said the

2:25:16

landlord looked up at me as he

2:25:19

chewed noisily. I'm the vault's lawyer. I

2:25:21

said, I gave you a demand

2:25:23

the other day. My client needs an answer

2:25:25

right now. He needs the vault for a

2:25:27

new place and he's got to make arrangements.

2:25:29

Your client could forget about the bank vault.

2:25:31

He said wiping his massive creasy

2:25:34

hands on an already soiled napkin,

2:25:36

but you can't do that. I

2:25:38

said my shock was feigned,

2:25:40

but the restaurant owner's jaw dropped for

2:25:42

real. The landlord laughed at us. I'm

2:25:45

the landlord. I can do what I want.

2:25:47

I'm going to need that in writing because

2:25:49

my client might sue. I said, Sue all

2:25:51

you like. The landlord told me, Sue till

2:25:53

you're blue in the face. He

2:25:55

told me that I'd have a formal response

2:25:57

by the day's end. And then he told

2:25:59

me to go away and let him finish

2:26:01

his life. lunch. When the letter arrived from

2:26:03

the landlord, claiming ownership over the bank vault,

2:26:05

I brought it downstairs and showed it to

2:26:07

my client. How the heck did you do

2:26:09

that? Trade secret, I said. The following month,

2:26:11

the restaurant moved out and the place was

2:26:13

empty. And that was too bad, because I'd

2:26:15

always liked eating at the vault. Now

2:26:17

the restaurant was in a new location 20 minutes

2:26:20

away. They called the new place the vault

2:26:22

and they'd preserved the vibe of the old

2:26:24

place. It was very similar except they didn't

2:26:26

have the bank vault. The bank vault, all

2:26:28

100 tons of it, was where it had

2:26:30

always been, in the basement of the building

2:26:33

where I rented space. I showed

2:26:35

up for work a little after that and Aaron

2:26:37

collared me. The landlord's looking for

2:26:39

you, he says. Oh yeah? What about?

2:26:42

He's really angry. He said his deal fell

2:26:44

through. Deal? He was supposed to rent the

2:26:46

place downstairs to a new tenant, a bank

2:26:48

or a credit union or something like that.

2:26:50

They were supposed to come in to sign

2:26:52

a lease, but they didn't show up. And

2:26:54

what's that got to do with me? I

2:26:56

said to Aaron. And I said the

2:26:58

same thing again to the landlord when he

2:27:00

managed to track me down a couple of

2:27:02

days later. I know you were behind this,

2:27:04

he said, his jowls quivering. I know it

2:27:07

was you. That offer from the agent, it

2:27:09

was all BS. Just a trick to make

2:27:11

me keep the vault so that your client

2:27:13

could sneak out of the place and leave

2:27:15

that freaking bank vault behind. I'm gonna sue.

2:27:17

If you're looking for counsel, I think I'm

2:27:19

gonna have to declare a conflict. I'm

2:27:22

gonna sue the restaurant and the agent and

2:27:24

I'm gonna sue you. He stormed off. But

2:27:26

the landlord didn't sue. Of course he didn't.

2:27:28

He didn't have a contract to sue on

2:27:30

only a vague letter of intent that I

2:27:32

drafted enough to hook a greedy landlord who

2:27:35

was used to having his way. The

2:27:37

offer he'd received was non-binding, incapable of

2:27:39

acceptance without the signing of a formal

2:27:42

lease, which of course never got signed.

2:27:44

When I left Aaron's place a year

2:27:46

later, the downstairs was still unoccupied with

2:27:48

a sad full rent sign sitting in

2:27:51

the window, starting to look faded. been

2:28:00

potentially a kind of boring topic you

2:28:02

know landlords and contracts and that sort

2:28:05

of stuff maybe not the most entertaining

2:28:07

so well written and really good this guy

2:28:09

clearly is just a horrible greedy man that

2:28:12

yeah any sort of idea of oh can

2:28:14

i make some more money from a from

2:28:16

a new bank potentially coming in he was

2:28:18

all he was all for it not even

2:28:20

checking if they were even a real bank

2:28:22

in the first place or doing any sort

2:28:24

of due diligence there and working

2:28:26

out what was going on doesn't really surprise

2:28:28

me when he's just as selfish as this

2:28:30

forcing somebody to to take a 100

2:28:34

ton vault with them or he'll sue

2:28:36

i mean just absolutely ridiculous i

2:28:38

guess this comes down to so you have to leave

2:28:41

the property in the same way it was when

2:28:44

you first got it but i don't know how

2:28:46

anyone would realistically know that first

2:28:48

of all there was a a huge 100 ton

2:28:50

vault and then secondly that that

2:28:52

you had to get rid of it when

2:28:54

you left because when you moved in it was

2:28:56

there right but again as was explained in this

2:28:59

one going back to the second

2:29:01

world war and having a contract

2:29:03

carry over from there is extremely pessy i do

2:29:05

kind of stand by what i said though i

2:29:07

do think with all these things you've got to

2:29:09

read literally i was going to

2:29:11

say word for word but almost letter

2:29:13

for letter like the punctuation even is

2:29:15

extremely important in these sort of contracts

2:29:17

to make sure you're not getting absolutely

2:29:19

shafted like this guy did but

2:29:22

yeah if it wasn't for uop i mean

2:29:24

that would have been terrible but thank goodness

2:29:26

that people like you exist and

2:29:28

just exploited the guy that was

2:29:30

exploiting this this unlucky individual steal furniture almost

2:29:32

lose your job so my dad owns a

2:29:35

house that he's been renting for some time

2:29:37

now the tenants that live there were for

2:29:39

the most part decent people who my dad

2:29:41

thought were trustworthy that all changed about two

2:29:44

months into the tenancy when the tenant refused

2:29:46

to pay the month's rents my dad showed

2:29:48

some leniency and gave them another month to

2:29:50

pay what was owed but they didn't pay

2:29:53

a thing by this point my dad frustrated

2:29:55

by the whole situation and being two months

2:29:57

out of rent money offered them a deal

2:29:59

leave the house ASAP and then only pay

2:30:01

half the money owed. They counted

2:30:04

with a different agreement. They would leave the

2:30:06

house in a clean state with all of

2:30:08

their furniture left behind as compensation. My dad

2:30:10

wanting to just be done with them agreed.

2:30:12

Cut to where my dad gets to the

2:30:14

house, finding the place in a mess with

2:30:17

none of the furniture left behind, including the

2:30:19

furniture that belonged to my dad in the

2:30:21

first place. The two sofas that my

2:30:23

dad owned were left behind, but they were trashed

2:30:25

and left in the shed. When my dad confronted

2:30:27

them, asking for them to pay up the full

2:30:29

amount that the furniture was worth, he

2:30:32

was met with the promise of payment after

2:30:34

two weeks, which he didn't believe. And

2:30:36

when he requested they pay earlier, he was

2:30:39

met with good luck getting your money, followed

2:30:41

by laughing emojis. This made my dad angry,

2:30:43

and he decided that he wasn't going to

2:30:45

let this slide. My dad knew that the

2:30:47

tenant was a Christian pastor of a church,

2:30:50

and his son also had some job related

2:30:52

to the church. My dad contacted the church

2:30:54

and explained everything from how they hadn't paid

2:30:56

him rent money, to stealing the furniture and

2:30:58

trashing the place. The church was

2:31:01

somewhat interested about this behavior. The next

2:31:03

day, my dad gets an angry phone

2:31:05

call from the tenant's son, cursing at

2:31:07

him, asking him what he thought he

2:31:09

was doing, contacting the church, saying he

2:31:11

was being unfair. My dad

2:31:13

hung up on him, only for him to

2:31:15

attempt to ring 10 times afterwards. From what

2:31:17

we could piece together, the church had told

2:31:19

the pastor that if he didn't settle things

2:31:22

with my dad, him and his son would

2:31:24

lose their jobs. My dad

2:31:26

received the full amount for the furniture that same day

2:31:28

and agreed to back off. My dad

2:31:30

later said it was never about the money,

2:31:32

but the way this guy treated him and

2:31:34

his values, my dad being a Christian himself

2:31:36

was disappointed. There we go, a nice little

2:31:38

one to finish on there. I do have

2:31:41

to say that it's embarrassing,

2:31:43

that these healthy

2:31:46

Christian people who work for the

2:31:48

church have this attitude. Does that

2:31:51

not go exactly against what they're

2:31:53

preaching? Surely it does. How

2:31:55

can they go to work each day? Like you're a pastor,

2:31:58

a pastor, a pastor. and you are

2:32:01

going to work each day, preaching, knowing that

2:32:03

you're doing this at the same time. How

2:32:05

can you live with yourself? I think it's

2:32:07

kind of people like this sometimes that give,

2:32:09

not just the church, not just the Christian church,

2:32:11

but just religion in general, a bad name. When

2:32:14

reality, it's just these horrible individuals doing things, but

2:32:16

then you hear stories like this quite often, you're

2:32:18

just like, why? How can somebody

2:32:20

be in this position and do something like

2:32:22

this? But I guess it happens all over

2:32:24

the world in every single sector, but yeah.

2:32:27

Normally, I thought that the church would

2:32:29

usually pay for their residence, but I

2:32:32

don't know, maybe they weren't, or

2:32:34

maybe they were, and these two were just,

2:32:36

you know, pocketing that, and then just,

2:32:39

yeah, using it for whatever they wanted. I will say

2:32:41

though, shout out your dad, because

2:32:44

he is a very, very good man.

2:32:46

Teacher insists I talk to my mother. This was back

2:32:48

in school when I was 15, 16-ish. I'd

2:32:51

moved to the area suddenly and had a

2:32:53

lot of accommodations, so most of the teachers

2:32:55

didn't know specifically what was going on in

2:32:58

my life, but most knew it was pretty

2:33:00

messed up and there was an ongoing police

2:33:02

investigation. I guess this teacher missed the memo.

2:33:04

I was talking about prom tickets and how

2:33:07

I collected them as I qualified for free

2:33:09

ones. I don't remember exactly how the conversation

2:33:11

went, so I'm kind of paraphrasing. My teacher

2:33:13

said to me, you just need to

2:33:15

get your mom to email to claim as many tickets

2:33:17

as you need. I replied, okay,

2:33:20

I'll ask my dad to do that.

2:33:23

She then mentioned a few other things, but

2:33:25

every time she ignored my subtle corrections and

2:33:27

asked me to talk to my mom. After

2:33:30

like four times, I lost my temper and

2:33:32

went, all right, since you

2:33:34

insist, I'll drive for two hours,

2:33:36

find my highly abusive mother in police

2:33:39

custody and reconnect with her just to

2:33:41

ask her permission for some prom

2:33:43

tickets, or I could ask

2:33:45

my dad at home. She just

2:33:47

went completely silent and a couple of

2:33:49

nearby teachers gave her judgment or looks

2:33:51

and I walked away. Teachers should honestly

2:33:53

know better than to assume all kids

2:33:55

have parents, especially both. There

2:33:58

was another time, like a month after I moved. where

2:34:00

we had an English class assignment to read and

2:34:02

write poems about our mother. On Mother's

2:34:04

Day, so it was already a pretty sore day

2:34:06

for me, I just left. She'll

2:34:09

have written some poems about how she beat

2:34:11

me for laughing wrong to teach them not

2:34:13

to do that sort of trash. Yeah, that

2:34:15

is extremely poor from that teacher. I mean,

2:34:18

it's just one of those things. If you

2:34:20

are a teacher and you have a classroom

2:34:22

full of children, surely you shouldn't be talking

2:34:24

generally about these sort of things. I mean,

2:34:27

look, maybe you can, but on the whole,

2:34:29

you've got to be so careful because who

2:34:31

knows what you might say that could horribly

2:34:33

upset someone. I mean, you don't know. Clearly,

2:34:36

this woman doesn't know the individual circumstances of

2:34:38

all her students. I think, to be fair,

2:34:40

she should, but for whatever reason, she doesn't.

2:34:43

And I'm thinking about my own education here.

2:34:45

I can't actually remember doing sort of like

2:34:47

Father's Day or Mother's Day stuff in particular,

2:34:49

even in primary school or like even back

2:34:52

in kindergarten. I mean, I don't remember exactly

2:34:54

in reception, but I don't remember it.

2:34:56

And I feel like the teachers would know

2:34:59

exactly what was going on with their

2:35:01

students' parents. So they wouldn't do anything

2:35:03

that could be as traumatic as this,

2:35:05

probably for that reason. But yeah, terrible

2:35:07

from her. Great from UOP. I mean,

2:35:09

you could also argue that she's just

2:35:11

being misogynistic anyway. Like, why does she

2:35:13

keep insisting that you ask your mum?

2:35:15

Because that's just assigning a gender role, isn't

2:35:17

it? It's ridiculous, especially in the modern day. There's

2:35:19

a lot about this teacher to dislike, I will

2:35:21

say. So, yeah, I'm happy you got your own

2:35:24

back, OP. Keep touching my wheelchair when I told

2:35:26

you no, get slapped and shunned.

2:35:28

I am a wheelchair user. Wheelchairs

2:35:31

are considered extensions of our bodies.

2:35:33

And touching wheelchairs without the user's

2:35:35

permission is a no-no. Moving someone's

2:35:37

wheelchair without asking is an even

2:35:39

bigger no-no. I'd explained to a

2:35:41

classmate again and again that it

2:35:44

was rude, inappropriate and even harassment

2:35:46

that he kept touching my chair or moving me

2:35:48

without asking. And when I told him not to,

2:35:50

not only did he keep doing it, but he

2:35:52

was insistent that he had the right to do

2:35:55

so. I'd even gone as far as to illustrate

2:35:57

the issue to him, by getting permission to touch

2:35:59

his sh- shoulder or elbows and moving

2:36:01

him out of the way or leaving my

2:36:03

hand on his shoulder and leaving it there

2:36:05

until it was awkward. Even this though didn't

2:36:07

dissuade him or change his entitled insistence that

2:36:10

he had every right to touch my chair

2:36:12

whenever he wanted to even when

2:36:14

I told him no. Anyway, usually

2:36:16

he'd let go, kind of scoff and move

2:36:18

on. This was over the course of most

2:36:20

of a college semester. It was a voice

2:36:23

class at a community college so there were

2:36:25

less than 20 of us. So our professor

2:36:27

had witnessed many of these incidents. One day

2:36:29

when he touched my chair again and wouldn't

2:36:31

move his hand when I politely asked him

2:36:34

to stop, he refused to let go and

2:36:36

again insisted that he wasn't doing anything wrong

2:36:38

and that he had the right to do

2:36:40

so, it wasn't a big deal etc. By

2:36:42

this point I'd had enough. He continued to

2:36:45

touch me, my chair and therefore

2:36:47

an extension of my person. So I turned

2:36:49

my chair around lightning fast, grabbed his stunned

2:36:51

hand hard enough hopefully to bruise it, I've

2:36:53

got good upper body and hand grip strength,

2:36:55

pulled him down as harshly as I could

2:36:58

and then slapped him in the face as

2:37:00

hard. The rest of the class heard the

2:37:02

slap and his pained and surprised yelp and

2:37:04

they turned to look at us. He screamed

2:37:06

and ran over to the professor to whine

2:37:09

that I'd grabbed him and hit him. The

2:37:11

professor just kind of shrugged and said something

2:37:13

along the lines of, well she told you

2:37:15

to stop touching her. He kept whining about

2:37:17

it to the professor that I should be

2:37:20

punished for assaulting him etc only for her

2:37:22

and the rest of the class to just

2:37:24

ignore him that day and then for the

2:37:26

rest of the semester. Mind you I'm a

2:37:28

very chilled person, unless you count childlike excitement

2:37:30

clear about life and I'm never violent as

2:37:32

well as being patient to a fault so

2:37:35

I don't retaliate nearly ever or easily

2:37:37

but frankly this was self-defence pure and

2:37:39

simple. In any case the whole class

2:37:41

had heard me explain time and time

2:37:43

again not to touch me or my

2:37:46

chair and how and why it was inappropriate

2:37:48

and they'd asked if I needed help but

2:37:50

I'd always declined. To me personally it's not

2:37:52

that big of a deal if someone who

2:37:55

doesn't know better touches my wheelchair I just

2:37:57

explain why it's wrong but he was so

2:37:59

entitled he had the right to and wouldn't

2:38:01

take no for an answer, that was what made

2:38:03

that an actual issue. And I'd

2:38:05

been much more patient than he deserved. He

2:38:07

wasn't very bright, but he wasn't disabled or

2:38:10

autistic. I'd asked about the autism in a

2:38:12

polite way by sharing that I'm autistic, but

2:38:14

even if he were, he'd be high functioning

2:38:16

enough for his action to be inexcusable. At

2:38:18

the end of class that day, I got

2:38:20

a lot of high fives and he kept

2:38:22

his distance from me, occasionally glancing over at

2:38:25

me fearfully. Good prudence frankly. The

2:38:27

last third or so of the semester, nobody

2:38:29

wanted to work with him when we paired up

2:38:31

in groups of three to four to work on songs

2:38:33

together. People for the most part

2:38:35

didn't love working with him before this anyway,

2:38:37

but after it became clear that the professor

2:38:39

was on my side and not his, it

2:38:42

was if he was invisible. Okay now on

2:38:44

the one hand, while I'm happy that the

2:38:46

professor was on your side and this kid

2:38:49

just got ignored for the rest of the

2:38:51

semester, I do have to say, where

2:38:53

was your professor before it got to this stage?

2:38:56

Like, why are they letting you slap

2:38:58

him? Why are they letting

2:39:00

it get that far? Like that should never have been allowed

2:39:02

to happen. How can the professor genuinely

2:39:04

think, okay, you know what, I see all this

2:39:07

going on, but I'm just going to let it

2:39:09

happen and let this student OP eventually slap

2:39:11

one of my other students and that would

2:39:13

be a good resolution, a good thing to

2:39:15

happen. And that's the way to source it

2:39:17

rather than stopping it at source and saying,

2:39:20

you can't do this before letting

2:39:22

it get violent. It's like, it's

2:39:24

weird teaching. I gotta say, like

2:39:26

you're just being harassed all semester and they're just

2:39:28

leaving you to it. Really odd. Look,

2:39:30

don't get me wrong, this guy's clearly a POS and it's

2:39:32

good that he got what he deserved in the end. But

2:39:35

my main takeaway is that professor has to

2:39:37

do more here. Joke's on you, he's dead.

2:39:40

A little context before I start, six

2:39:42

years ago, my dad died of terminal

2:39:44

brain cancer after two years of treatment.

2:39:47

I was nine turning 10 that summer. My

2:39:49

mum was absolutely devastated, but she stayed strong

2:39:51

for my brothers and me. So

2:39:54

we live in France and it's an advanced country,

2:39:56

but we live in the backwaters where there are

2:39:58

still a lot of masonic. and

2:40:00

homophobes. And just to add a

2:40:02

little more intrigue, it's a 5 day back holiday

2:40:05

weekend here in France, and it was nearing the

2:40:07

end of the workers shift. Now my brothers aren't

2:40:09

at home much and I'm at boarding school, so

2:40:11

we didn't need our huge car anymore. My

2:40:14

mum sold it and replaced it with a brand

2:40:16

new Hyundai electric car. It's a

2:40:18

lot smaller than what we're used to storage wise,

2:40:20

so she wanted to buy a roofbox for it.

2:40:22

She went into the shop and asked a female

2:40:24

worker where she could find one. The woman

2:40:26

called over her male co-workers to help my

2:40:28

mum out. She asked them what she

2:40:31

asked the woman. Could I have

2:40:33

a roofbox for my car? They stroll

2:40:35

over. The leader smirked as he says, is

2:40:37

it for your husband? His

2:40:40

friends laughed and so did their

2:40:42

female co-worker, but my mum didn't

2:40:44

even smile. Instead, she grimaced

2:40:46

and said, well, he died

2:40:48

six years ago, so I

2:40:50

don't think so. The guy

2:40:52

was mortified. As she told me this story in

2:40:55

the car after picking me up from school, I

2:40:57

was so proud of her because she was able

2:40:59

to make some light of our trauma. Also,

2:41:02

she taught a misogynistic idiot a lesson. Well, there

2:41:04

we go. Second case of misogyny in this episode.

2:41:06

I think this one was probably worse than the

2:41:08

first, like trying to get a cheap laugh out

2:41:10

of it and then just being hit by that.

2:41:13

What a way to bring you back down to

2:41:15

work. Again, massive shout out to your mum though.

2:41:17

I mean, you've got to take a leaf out

2:41:19

of her book and start remembering these comebacks. So

2:41:21

when it sadly, inevitably happens to you later in

2:41:24

life, but the fact that she can deal with

2:41:26

it so well and not kind of a car

2:41:28

away, like she's not afraid of

2:41:30

talking about this sort of thing. She's not ashamed by

2:41:32

it. Doesn't seem she just wants to, you know, put

2:41:35

people in their place despite

2:41:37

the fact that it's obviously a horrible, horrible,

2:41:39

traumatic thing that's happened to your family. So

2:41:42

yeah, respect for saying

2:41:44

something uncomfortable, which I'm sure she didn't enjoy

2:41:46

saying to be honest or even like thinking

2:41:49

about, but this guy and his mates that

2:41:51

have led her to say it. Guy asked

2:41:53

me why I'm wearing a mask. Some background

2:41:55

information first. My city was mostly anti mask

2:41:57

through all of COVID. and continues to be.

2:41:59

I don't agree with this, but it's a

2:42:02

smaller town so it was easy for people

2:42:04

to get away with. I actually

2:42:06

wore masks before covid because I suffer

2:42:08

from dermatillomania, basically a mental condition where

2:42:10

I struggle with peeling off sections of

2:42:12

my skin. Oh wow that sounds terrible.

2:42:14

I was shopping at the grocery store

2:42:16

with my husband and we were wearing

2:42:19

masks. I turn around the corner of

2:42:21

an aisle and a man looks at

2:42:23

me and asks, now what are

2:42:25

you wearing a mask for? He was

2:42:27

loud and clearly looking for an argument so I

2:42:29

just tried to brush it off and say I

2:42:31

have a medical condition. I tried to look for

2:42:33

my husband but he was still in the other

2:42:35

aisle. The man then asks, oh

2:42:38

what kind of medical condition? I'm

2:42:40

blown away by the audacity of this guy

2:42:43

but at this point I hear my husband

2:42:45

come up behind me and I suddenly feel

2:42:47

courageous or maybe dumb. I pull down my

2:42:49

mask and show him the rest of my

2:42:51

face. He sees the wounds

2:42:54

and some bandages. He looks embarrassed and

2:42:56

quietly says, oh honey,

2:42:58

before walking away. My husband immediately

2:43:00

turns me around and hugs me

2:43:02

since he worries about my self-esteem.

2:43:05

Asking if I'm feeling okay and such and

2:43:07

what that was about. I just answered smiling,

2:43:09

well he asked. I'll pull my mask back

2:43:11

up and we continue shopping. I realised after

2:43:14

that that I should have just kept my

2:43:16

mask on but it felt good somehow. I

2:43:18

also don't know if I was right to

2:43:20

call it a medical condition or not but

2:43:22

I kind of panicked in the moment. This

2:43:24

was in early 2021 so

2:43:27

three years of therapy later I've been doing

2:43:29

much better with my condition. I

2:43:31

don't pick as often or as much skin

2:43:33

as I used to. Now I usually don't

2:43:35

even wear masks anymore to hide it and

2:43:38

I wish I had this kind of confidence

2:43:40

back when I had my grandmother say I

2:43:42

looked like a meth addict. Uh

2:43:44

well you know what, I feel like grandmothers

2:43:46

just do say stuff like that. Don't take

2:43:48

anything from it. They're just all crazy. Uh

2:43:50

no offence and I know that my grandmother

2:43:53

is actually probably watching right now and

2:43:55

I don't mean you granny. Trust me

2:43:58

anyway back to the story. I

2:44:00

feel like OP, you've done extremely well there.

2:44:02

And you know what you're saying about maybe

2:44:04

it was bad or you didn't feel comfortable

2:44:06

or whatever that it felt good? It should

2:44:09

feel good. You completely killed this person phenomenally

2:44:11

well and embarrassed him. So well

2:44:13

done. And also you don't have to keep your

2:44:15

mask on. I mean, he did ask me to

2:44:17

take it off and you did that. So I

2:44:19

mean, you're just doing what he says. Excellent stuff.

2:44:21

You want proof I'm injured? Okay, this happened about

2:44:24

five years ago. So some details are a bit

2:44:26

blurry, but I remember most of what happened. About

2:44:28

five years ago, I had some major anger

2:44:30

issues caused by other undiagnosed mental

2:44:32

issues. I'm okay now and I'm

2:44:34

properly medicated. I ended up

2:44:36

slapping my door, which caused my mirror to

2:44:39

break and sliced my left leg open. Stupid

2:44:41

mistake, I know. I've learned since then. I

2:44:44

ended up going to hospital to get about

2:44:46

48 stitches. I

2:44:48

had to miss a couple of days of school because the

2:44:50

doctor told me to take it easy for two days. When

2:44:53

I finally went back to school, I had crutches

2:44:55

because I couldn't put any way on the injured

2:44:57

leg at all. I got an

2:44:59

elevator key and I needed people to help me

2:45:01

with my books. I kept pain meds with the

2:45:03

nurse because again, 48 stitches. She'd

2:45:06

never liked me for some reason. So when I

2:45:08

went to get half a pill during lunch, she

2:45:11

refused to give it to me. Here

2:45:13

is how the exchange went. You don't

2:45:15

need any meds, you're fine, the nurse

2:45:17

said. No, I do need

2:45:19

them. I'm in a lot of pain. I'll

2:45:21

stop faking and go back to lunch. I

2:45:23

wouldn't leave your crutches here. You don't need

2:45:26

them either. Now I was in a lot

2:45:28

of pain, so I was already not in

2:45:30

a good mood. This really angered me. Do

2:45:32

your dang job and give me my meds,

2:45:34

then I'll go back. I have an ungodly

2:45:36

amount of stitches in my leg and I'm

2:45:38

already upset enough without you being rude. Well,

2:45:41

how do I know you're actually injured? You

2:45:43

could just have a bandage around your leg.

2:45:45

What, you want proof? Yes.

2:45:48

So without hesitation, I untied the gauze

2:45:50

on my leg, removed the gauze pack

2:45:52

and showed her my stitched wound. All

2:45:55

the color drained from her face and she looked like she

2:45:57

was going to throw up. Is this good

2:45:59

enough? For you, after a moment, she silently

2:46:02

unlocked her medicine cabinet and handed me

2:46:04

my painkiller bottle, which was literally just

2:46:06

extra strength ibuprofen, not opioids, so I've

2:46:08

got no idea why she was so

2:46:10

protective of it. Take your pill and

2:46:13

go back to lunch. I smiled at

2:46:15

her as sweetly as possible. Oh,

2:46:17

well, I can't go back now. My banages

2:46:20

aren't sterile anymore, so I need to change

2:46:22

them. I brought extra banages just in case,

2:46:24

so this wasn't a big deal. She

2:46:27

still looked nauseous at this point. So I

2:46:29

changed my banages as slowly as I could,

2:46:31

making sure she got a good look at

2:46:33

my leg the entire time. I only had

2:46:35

to go back to her office twice through

2:46:37

my recovery, but each time she didn't hesitate

2:46:39

to give me my medication. I

2:46:41

saw her when I went to return my elevator

2:46:43

key and she avoided eye contact with me. She

2:46:46

wasn't working there the following year, luckily.

2:46:49

Well, I wonder why. Okay, now go with me on this

2:46:51

one, guys. I do feel like there are a lot of

2:46:53

people out there that have jobs that they're just not very

2:46:56

good at, okay? Who knows why, but

2:46:58

it just probably is the case. Not naming names

2:47:00

here. I just think that is the case. However,

2:47:03

when you're a nurse, I feel like you

2:47:06

need to be pretty good at your job

2:47:08

or at least know what you're doing. If

2:47:10

you're a healthcare professional, you need to

2:47:12

be providing healthcare. That's kind

2:47:15

of the job description, and I

2:47:17

don't think you can be bad at doing

2:47:19

that. Otherwise, it can be potentially very dangerous.

2:47:21

Now, I do not understand how this woman

2:47:23

had this job in the first place when

2:47:25

she is not giving you medication that you

2:47:27

have to have. It's just insane. Also,

2:47:30

the questions that she's asking you are

2:47:32

a joke. First of all, are you actually

2:47:34

in pain? How do I know if you're injured? Can you

2:47:37

give me proof that you're injured? Et cetera, et cetera, et

2:47:39

cetera. All three of those are

2:47:41

ridiculous for so many reasons. First

2:47:43

of all, you don't have to be in pain to have

2:47:45

pain medication. If it's prescribed to you

2:47:47

to take three times a day and you take

2:47:49

it three times a day and you're never in

2:47:51

pain, that's good. That means it's doing what it's

2:47:53

supposed to be doing, right? You've been prescribed it

2:47:55

for a reason. Secondly, are you actually

2:47:57

injured? You could just have a bandage around your neck.

2:47:59

your leg is mental. Surely

2:48:02

she's had some form of documentation before

2:48:04

she needs proof that you are injured,

2:48:06

right? Like if you go to hospital

2:48:08

and you have 48 stitches, your school

2:48:10

obviously should know about that. If not,

2:48:12

something's gone terribly wrong there in communication.

2:48:14

I don't really know why. And then

2:48:16

thirdly, saying to somebody, I need to

2:48:18

see proof that you have 48 stitches

2:48:20

or that you need pain meds is

2:48:22

unbelievable, especially when they're coming in on

2:48:24

crutches. I mean, look, yeah, some kids

2:48:26

do lie about being ill, but I

2:48:28

don't think someone would lie to this

2:48:30

extent. Maybe they would, but this is

2:48:33

just insane. Also, just one final point. Why is

2:48:35

she not offering to redress it for you? Well,

2:48:37

I'm glad that, I mean, I assume she was

2:48:40

eventually fired. The fact that she's not working in

2:48:42

the following year leads me to believe so. But

2:48:45

after clearly realizing that she was horribly wrong

2:48:47

there, surely she at least could have said,

2:48:49

you know, I'm sorry, let me, let me

2:48:51

do that for you as in do my

2:48:53

job, not just what you do it yourself

2:48:56

and be nauseous. Also, she shouldn't be nauseous.

2:48:58

She's a nurse should be used to that

2:49:00

sort of stuff. Everything about this woman is

2:49:02

just so backwards. Don't ask rude

2:49:04

and invasive questions and you won't get

2:49:07

called out on it. My God, this

2:49:09

just happened. I'm still fuming. Some important

2:49:11

context. I have a zip the size

2:49:14

of Everest tucked in next to the

2:49:16

corner of my eye. It's

2:49:18

recurring and it will go away soon. It's

2:49:20

no big deal. It's just massive. I work

2:49:23

reception and a woman came in having

2:49:25

made her reservation for the wrong day. No

2:49:27

problem. I can at least look up

2:49:29

the reservation information while I'm doing

2:49:32

so. She goes, what happened to your eye?

2:49:35

A lovely question to ask the person

2:49:37

trying to help you. I blink and

2:49:39

tell her it's a pimple. No way.

2:49:41

There's no way that's just a pimple.

2:49:43

Then I pulled the saying out for

2:49:45

the first time. I'm shocked. You

2:49:47

feel comfortable saying something like that to a

2:49:49

total stranger. I have

2:49:52

genetic cystic acne, but unbelievably

2:49:54

she doubles down. Well,

2:49:56

I just, my daughter has

2:49:58

acne too. I say nothing.

2:50:01

She doesn't really talk to me about it either.

2:50:04

I double down. Well, I don't like to talk

2:50:06

about it. It got me made fun of when

2:50:08

I was younger. Cue the breathy comments about how

2:50:10

I, as well as some guys she's texting, are

2:50:12

calling her a POS. If

2:50:15

that's what you got from my very calm

2:50:17

and decently polite responses, maybe you have some

2:50:19

introspection to do. Enjoy your

2:50:21

visit and I hope you think twice before

2:50:23

making comments about someone's appearance. Now

2:50:25

fortunately, while the cystic acne is indeed real

2:50:27

and genetic, I wasn't ever picked on

2:50:29

for it. At least, not until I

2:50:31

reached adulthood for some reason. You know what?

2:50:34

I cannot actually believe that this woman

2:50:36

has said, I can't believe it. My daughter has

2:50:38

acne too. And for some reason, she

2:50:40

doesn't like talking about it either. Yet,

2:50:43

she's asking a total stranger about

2:50:45

her acne. Just

2:50:48

obviously she's just so dumb. So

2:50:50

so dumb. And yes, I agree. You

2:50:52

have a lot of introspection to do.

2:50:56

And fair play to you, OP, again, for just saying, you know

2:50:58

what? I'm not dealing with this. Just because

2:51:00

I'm here to help you out and I know I'm

2:51:02

working on reception, you're a customer, whatever. I'm not going

2:51:04

to sit here and take that from you. You've

2:51:07

got to know that this is just too far.

2:51:09

You can't be asking this sort of stuff. And

2:51:11

you know, if you are this woman and you're

2:51:14

thinking, why is everyone calling me a POS? It's

2:51:16

probably because you are. That is the logical answer

2:51:18

to that. So there we go, guys. That is

2:51:20

going to do it for the best post from

2:51:22

Traumatize Them Back so far this year. Let me know

2:51:24

in the comments down below which has been your favorite

2:51:27

so far. Obviously, a lot more to come in this

2:51:29

year. We're only about halfway through. We're not even

2:51:31

halfway through yet. But yeah, so

2:51:33

far, I think this has been my favorite subreddit

2:51:35

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