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Vigilante Justice. I
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think we can all agree that the right is pro law
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enforcement, but
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a new movement has slowly been spreading
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across the nation, a trend to try and
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lower our prison populations by raising
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our felony threshold, and some cities
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are feeling the unintended consequences.
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Crimes are on the lad in California and researchers
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think they know why.
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Proposition forty seven is that voter
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approved initiative that downgraded some
1:07
crimes in order to free up more prison
1:09
space.
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Our social media feeds are filled with videos
1:12
of people committing petty crimes.
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With law enforcement often overwhelmed
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in big cities. A question is arising
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even among supporters of our men in Blue,
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and that is when is it okay to take the
1:23
law into your own hands. I'm
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Patrick CARELCI.
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And I'm Adriana Cortes, and.
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This is Red Pilled America, a storytelling
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show.
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This is not another talk show covering the day's
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news. We're all about telling stories.
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Stories. Hollywood doesn't want you to hear stories.
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The media mocks stories
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about everyday Americans at the globalist
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ignore.
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You can think of Red Pilled America as audio
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documentaries, and we promise only one thing,
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the truth. Welcome
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to Red Pilled America. Many
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on the political right place their complete
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trusts in our law enforcement. Trump
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voters in particular, praise them at every
2:18
opportunity. But there's a new trend
2:20
that's tying the hands of our men in Blue, and
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it's beginning to erode confidence in
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our government's ability to make good on the
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order part of law and order. Progressive
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groups and even some on the right are pushing
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to reduce prison populations in a
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way that has some unintended consequences.
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Organizations like the SPLC has
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been pushing for local government to raise
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the felony threshold, and some
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cities are seeing a rise in property crime
2:45
as a result. With law enforcement's
2:47
hands full fighting more serious crimes,
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citizens and small business owners may
2:52
begin to wonder when is it okay
2:54
to take the law into your own hands.
2:57
To find the answer, we follow the story
2:59
of a mini nepless man's quest to get
3:01
law enforcement to help him nab
3:03
a thief and how they're inaction made
3:06
him seek out vigilante justice.
3:13
Robin Hour doesn't sound like the kind
3:16
of guy that would become a vigilante.
3:18
A numbers man with a master's degree from
3:20
a rural town, a graduate with honors
3:23
that went on to become a banker, But after
3:25
a series of frustrating exchanges with local
3:27
law enforcement, Robin would add
3:29
vigilante to his resume as well. He
3:33
grew up in a small farming town called Hutchinson,
3:35
Minnesota.
3:36
It's about seventy miles straight west
3:39
of Minneapolis. Saint Paul metro area.
3:41
That's Robin. The town's population
3:43
is now roughly fourteen thousand, and it
3:45
hasn't grown much since his sister, mom, dad,
3:47
and him called it home. His
3:50
mother was a school teacher for forty years and
3:52
his father was a lifetime state bureaucrat
3:54
who hypercommuted the eighty five miles
3:57
to work in Saint Paul, Minnesota.
4:00
Was pretty much that you know, Maybury
4:03
existence type of thing where me
4:06
and my buddies would get up in the daytime and
4:08
cracked it, you know, as soon as the sun came up,
4:10
we had breakfast. We were on our bikes and out
4:13
all day and came back for lunch
4:15
and out till it got dark
4:17
and home for dinner type of thing.
4:18
He attended public school, and as a kid,
4:21
Robin had a thing for Ronald Reagan, going
4:23
as far as sending the president a letter.
4:25
Invited him to my birthday party as like a five
4:27
year old or something like that, and crazy enough,
4:30
you know, two years after that he actually
4:32
sent a reply to me.
4:36
In grade school, Robin was a bit of a troublemaker,
4:39
but nothing major. He graduated high
4:41
school with honors and followed his future
4:43
wife to Minnesota. State University Mankato.
4:47
He started off studying finance, but later
4:49
switched to economics, and.
4:50
I just didn't care for the finance guys,
4:53
kind of you know, the preppy dorks
4:55
that I once wasn't in high
4:57
school, but at the time just
5:00
kind of rebelled against that. Plus I like the critical thinking
5:02
aspect and the math aspect of
5:04
economic.
5:05
In their spare time, him and his then girlfriend
5:08
became live music junkies.
5:10
We traveled the country seeing music, and
5:13
I think I've seen over three thousand concerts
5:16
in my life.
5:17
The two were a bit of an odd couple. Robin
5:19
carried his fondness for Reagan's politics into
5:21
his twenties, while his girlfriend was,
5:23
in his words, super liberal and
5:26
had the hairstyle to prove.
5:27
It, dreadhead and that
5:29
whole bit. And I myself had long hair
5:31
down to my waistline.
5:33
He graduated from college with honors in two thousand
5:35
and six and took a job as a research
5:37
analyst at the Minnesota Department of Transportation.
5:41
But Robin came to the decision that he wanted
5:43
to pursue a career in alternative energy,
5:45
so he entered the master's program at the Colorado
5:48
School of Mines, a university
5:50
devoted to engineering and applied science,
5:53
where he studied mineral economics. But
5:55
when he finished the program in May two thousand
5:57
and nine, the country was in the height of the finalinancial
6:00
crisis, making jobs even
6:02
in technical industries hard to come
6:04
by.
6:05
So my dreams of becoming
6:08
an alternative energy analysts were kind
6:10
of dashed there, because it was a chicken in an egg situation.
6:13
Do you have someone in the
6:15
industry that you know, or do you have a lot of experience.
6:18
I had neither.
6:22
Like many during the Great Recession, Robin
6:24
was forced to find work where he could, so
6:27
he turned to retail banking.
6:29
They hired me on as a bank teller. So
6:32
here I am with a master's degree
6:35
in in advanced
6:37
economics, essentially with
6:40
six figures worth of debt, and
6:42
I'm starting at like ten bucks
6:44
an hour as a bank teller, not even in a main
6:47
branch, mind you, in a disconnected
6:50
motor bank branch.
6:51
But he rolled up his sleeves and within six
6:54
months he got a banker position, and
6:56
within a year Robin was elevated
6:58
to a licensed banker adulthood,
7:01
began settling in and in twenty eleven
7:03
on their ten year dating anniversary to the day
7:06
Robin and his girlfriend got married. The
7:09
two moved back to Minnesota the following year,
7:11
and Robin began a new corporate job at
7:13
a retail bank.
7:15
Yeah, like I said, bought a house. But you
7:17
know, things were leading to the next I knew
7:19
the next step with kids, and yeah,
7:22
it just got to a point where we really couldn't talk anymore
7:24
about anything because it always swung
7:27
back to politics and me disagreeing
7:29
with her, and you
7:32
know, my opinions
7:35
were seen by her as offensive
7:38
to or demeaning to her opinion,
7:40
as though I wasn't not only just disagreeing,
7:43
but I thought I was somehow making
7:46
this huge slight against her ideology.
7:49
And it just clicked on me. I was like, not
7:51
only is this not going to work out between us,
7:53
but this is exactly what the left
7:55
is like
7:59
their ideaology, their political ideology
8:02
is now their religion. And it was
8:04
a total eye opening moment.
8:05
Luckily, when Robin came to this realization,
8:08
there were no kids in the picture.
8:10
We only had a house and a dog. Really, so
8:12
it was an amical breakup from you know,
8:14
financial standpoint, who basically
8:17
just went our separate ways kind of odd
8:19
thing. You know, you spend end up spending
8:21
thirteen odd years with someone and you can divorce
8:23
in the like twenty eight days. I think it was.
8:26
So Robin was basically starting over, but
8:28
this time loaded up with a bit of a financial
8:30
anchor.
8:34
You know. It was kind of, you know, kind of crazy. We went from this
8:36
house in the suburbs, the you know, kind of picturesque
8:39
little life too. Ultimately moved
8:41
in with my sister for a year, moved
8:43
in with a couple of college buddies for a year, paid
8:45
off some of the debt that I inherited
8:48
from you know, the relationship
8:51
and the wedding and all that, and then
8:53
I moved downtown here two years ago, in
8:55
May of twenty seventeen.
8:57
Moving to downtown Minneapolis sparked a question
8:59
for a few years earlier,
9:02
Just two days after moving in with his sister, Robin
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got into a car accident on his way to work.
9:07
Not having a lot of savings after the divorce, he
9:09
decided to lease a car.
9:11
You know, so I got I leased a new car,
9:14
and I after I started doing the math, I
9:16
was like, you know what with the rent or
9:18
the downtown rental parking
9:20
spot, the insurance, the
9:23
car payment, all of the gas, the maintenance, everything.
9:25
It was like as much as a cheap apartment
9:27
down here, seven eight hundred bucks a month. So
9:30
after the lease was up, I did.
9:32
I moved downtown, got myself a cheap
9:34
apartment and started
9:36
this downtown experiment.
9:43
And I figured, hey, you know what, I'm going to be working
9:45
within ten blocks
9:47
of my work. I'm gonna get rid of my
9:49
car. I'm gonna, you know, just give it
9:51
a shot. Really, I'm gonna buy a nice bike bike
9:54
to work every day.
9:55
All of his friends lived in and around downtown,
9:58
so they were just a twenty to thirty minute by right
10:00
away. His sister was also
10:02
closer, so he decided to hell with
10:04
a car payment.
10:05
So, yeah, I bought this nice
10:08
bike as a gift
10:10
to myself, and you know, kind of tricked
10:12
it out. I guess I got
10:14
it from a local. They
10:17
call it a co op. I guess it's called
10:19
the Hub bike co Op.
10:21
Even with its below zero winter temperatures,
10:24
Minneapolis surprisingly has one of the biggest bicycling
10:26
cultures in America. It consistently
10:29
makes bicycling magazines Top five
10:31
bike friendly cities, and in twenty
10:33
ten The magazine even ranked it as
10:35
the number one bike friendly town in America,
10:38
enraging the blue haired male feminist
10:40
cyclist of Portland.
10:42
There's definitely a huge bike culture here.
10:45
Some Minneapolis runs along
10:47
the Mississippi River. It was built up there in the
10:49
eighteen hundreds. It's not uncommon on
10:51
the trail on Saturday morning to see
10:54
twenty thirty deep of
10:56
all of these guys decked out in
10:58
their full on racing year padded
11:00
shorts, and they're twenty
11:03
eight one hundred five thousand
11:05
dollars racing bikes, all in
11:07
a pack. And it's, to be honest
11:09
with you, it's just it's obnoxious.
11:12
I mean, we have dedicated bike lanes
11:15
downtown on pretty much every street.
11:17
Minneapolis is also super flat, the
11:20
perfect terrain for bicycling. It's
11:22
also, along with fellow bike friendly cities
11:24
Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, New York
11:26
City and others, a politically liberal
11:28
city where biking is more than just
11:31
a mode of transportation. It's a
11:33
fashion statement.
11:34
Yeah, there is a little bit of a haughtiness
11:36
about it. I
11:39
mean, just this morning, I
11:43
was riding next to one of these
11:45
guys on like those three wheel tricycle recumbent
11:47
style things. And when we came up
11:50
to a light, I just kind of leaned back and I
11:52
asked him, I'm like, say, how much does a bike like
11:54
that go for? I'm thinking of grabbing my dad
11:56
one for his birthday. He's like, well, this one's
11:58
four thousand, but you can get
12:00
one for like eighteen hundred of them. Well,
12:03
maybe I'll think of a different option. But anyway,
12:06
as haughty as they are about
12:09
their uber expensive bikes and all
12:11
of their equipment and helmet usage,
12:13
and you know, just the culture
12:15
in it of itself, they
12:18
are I will say, very
12:21
very loyal to one another's. There's a certain camaraderie
12:24
that exists amongst them.
12:26
Robin hadn't had a bike in over a decade,
12:28
so he began doing some research and in
12:30
August twenty seventeen, he decided
12:33
to buy a Jamus Renegade Exile bike
12:35
from the Hub Bike co Op with
12:38
some aftermarket parts vendors, reflectors,
12:40
pedals. He was in about sixteen hundred
12:42
dollars. For roughly a
12:44
year and a half, the bike was his primary
12:47
source of transportation without a hitch.
12:50
I'd normally keep it inside and it
12:52
is inside overnight. You
12:55
know more often than it isn't.
12:57
You know. Typically every night I keep it inside,
13:03
but this one night, I just fell asleep on the couch
13:06
for whatever reason, didn't grab it. Went out the next
13:08
morning and I saw it. It
13:10
was still connected to the street
13:12
sign, but it was lying on the ground the
13:15
hell so, you know, I looked at
13:17
it, and the lock did its job, but
13:20
there was a big a dent
13:22
in the main frame of it, right, So now
13:25
I'm thinking, well, great, the structural
13:27
integrity might be compromised. So
13:30
I took it in and ultimately
13:32
we tested it, you know, some ping tests
13:34
and stuff like that, and they were convinced
13:36
and I was. My fears were assuage that it
13:38
was still legit and worth riding.
13:41
So yeah, the bike had the attempted
13:44
theft, and while it didn't,
13:46
you know, go as planned for the thief, I'm
13:48
convinced it messed
13:51
up the lock itself because
13:56
the key thereafter to
13:58
open it became increasingly
14:00
more and more sticky and problematic
14:03
to open. And flash
14:06
forward to this year. I got done
14:08
with work one day and the key just wouldn't open.
14:10
It was stuck, right, So I tried everything,
14:13
couldn't get it open. It ultimately had
14:15
to have a locksmith come and cut the
14:17
U lock off my bike so I could get it home. And
14:19
I was just using my backup cable lock
14:22
at the time until I could buy a new one.
14:24
With the much less protective cable lock now
14:26
in the mix. Robin was playing a game
14:28
of Russian Roulette with his sixteen hundred dollars
14:31
chariot, but he decided he'd
14:33
get through the week with his backup
14:35
and buy a new one, a much sturdier
14:37
U shaped barlock, the coming weekend.
14:41
But little did he know that that simple
14:43
decision would be the first domino to
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So Robin's bike survived a theft attempt,
16:04
but in the process, the lock on his sturdy U
16:07
shaped barlock became sticky and
16:09
gradually began to malfunction until it
16:11
no longer worked. The locksmith
16:13
had to cut it off, and Robin decided to
16:15
use his spare cable lock until
16:18
the following weekend. Would he'd be able to buy
16:20
a new barlock. But little did
16:22
he know that this simple decision would
16:24
be the first domino to drop on his
16:26
road to becoming a vigilante.
16:31
When he got off work that Monday in mid July, Robin
16:34
rode his bike home and like every other day,
16:36
pedaled up to the parking meter kiosk outside
16:39
his place.
16:41
And so I was locked up to that and
16:43
I get home at about five point fifteen
16:46
or whatever, So I locked it up, went
16:48
upstairs to make supper and
16:51
listened to some news, and yeah,
16:53
I loaded up my bag to make
16:55
my nightly trip to the gym, and
16:58
went outside probably about ten o'clock, and
17:01
I looked and it was gone. And
17:03
I was like, wait, did I park it somewhere else? I looked
17:05
up and down the street and it
17:07
was gone, sure enough. And I looked where it was and there
17:10
was the cable lock on the ground cut
17:13
in half.
17:13
There are a lot of people who have experienced
17:16
their bike being stolen. If
17:18
it happens to you as a kid, it's likely your first
17:20
taste of the real world. Something you
17:22
loved that is probably your first really expensive
17:24
possession has been snatched by
17:26
someone within your community. Getting your
17:28
bike stolen as a child is really a coming of
17:31
age moment where you first realize that there are
17:33
people out there looking to take what you have,
17:39
but as an adult, the theft can have
17:41
more practical consequences. This
17:44
was what Robin experienced.
17:46
Man I did the old man fist shake and
17:48
curse to the sky type of thing. You know,
17:51
it's anger, of course, because you
17:53
never want to have anything
17:56
taken from you that you know shouldn't
17:58
be. You're actually kind of angered
18:00
at your upset with yourself a little bit too, because
18:02
you know better in a way, especially
18:05
knowing what I know about the city, just you
18:07
know the crime that exists around here. And plus
18:09
I'd had different accessories like lights stolen
18:11
off my bike before in the past since moving here.
18:14
But then it, you know, it was kind of this you know, despair,
18:17
like, well, now I'm going to walk to work type thing,
18:19
and it's just gonna be super inconvenient. How am I gonna get
18:22
groceries all that stuff? But
18:24
yeah, the victimization feeling,
18:27
you know, you just feel that you know
18:29
something of yours was taken that shouldn't have been,
18:31
and it just makes you feel
18:34
bad not only about the situation
18:36
you're immediately in, but just also
18:38
about your community. You know, your city
18:41
that you know, people like this live
18:44
in the same spot that you yourself
18:46
have chosen willingly to move to
18:48
and live amongst. You know, whether
18:51
this person was my neighbor or not, or whether
18:53
he lived in some other portion of the
18:55
city, it's still you know, he's
18:57
part of this community. Yeah,
19:00
it doesn't. He doesn't give you good any good feelings.
19:03
I'll tell you that.
19:04
After he gathered himself, Robin did
19:06
what you're supposed to do in these situations.
19:09
He contacted law enforcement.
19:11
So, yeah, I called
19:14
the Minneapolis PD, called nine one
19:16
one, got a patrolman to
19:18
come out I'd say maybe thirty minutes later, which
19:20
was surprising that he was there that quick.
19:22
He gave the cop the time range that it was stolen,
19:25
somewhere between five point fifteen PM
19:27
and ten pm. Every
19:30
bike comes with a serial number, but like most
19:32
people, Robin hadn't recorded
19:34
his, so he filed the police report without
19:36
it.
19:37
The guy, the patrolman,
19:40
who I knew, was just going to take the report
19:42
and then you know, put it over to the stolen
19:44
property group. I
19:47
didn't really get much of an explanation as
19:49
to what's going to happen. I
19:51
asked him flat I was like, what's the likelihood
19:53
of this getting returned? He says it's not likely.
19:56
I don't I don't know if he said I'd
19:58
be shocked if you get it back, but that that's kind of
20:00
how it was presented
20:02
to me in a way.
20:03
In two thousand and seven, Minnesota
20:06
was one of the earliest states to substantially raise
20:08
its felony threshold, doubling
20:10
it from five hundred to one thousand
20:12
dollars. Because Robin put about
20:14
sixteen hundred dollars into the bike, even
20:17
with its devaluation over the course of two
20:19
years, it was likely right at the threshold
20:22
for a felony in Minneapolis, but
20:24
Robin still didn't feel confident that the
20:26
police department would be much help, so
20:29
he began his own citizen investigation.
20:35
It just so happened that right across
20:37
the street from his place was the Hennepin
20:39
County Medical Center, and the facility,
20:42
just a year earlier had some upgrades.
20:46
This particular side of the building has a
20:49
flood an entire bank of cameras,
20:51
and I was like, you know what, that camera
20:54
right there looks like it's pointed directly
20:56
at where my bike is parked. Sure
20:58
enough, it was so.
21:00
He asked the hospital for help. The
21:02
security guard on nightwatch told him
21:04
to contact the head of security that would be on site
21:06
in the am.
21:07
And so I did. Following morning, reached
21:10
out, let her know what was going on and
21:12
just requested if she could find video, gave
21:15
her all the details, what cross streets it was
21:17
between, you know, rough time of.
21:19
Day, and within a few hours,
21:21
sure enough she found the moment
21:23
of the bike heist.
21:25
She confirmed back that she
21:27
had not only still images of the
21:29
thief, but you
21:31
know, the actual video
21:34
footage of him stealing it, and
21:37
gave me a pinpointed time. Five
21:39
forty seven pm is when it was stolen.
21:41
The thief was brazen. He snatched
21:44
the bike in broad daylight about
21:46
thirty minutes after Robin got home, and
21:49
it was all caught on camera. The
21:52
problem was that the hospital couldn't give Robin
21:54
the footage of the theft.
21:56
The hospital wasn't able to disclose
21:58
it to me directly, and
22:00
so I asked
22:03
her, so, how do we go about getting
22:05
this footage into the police's hands. Can
22:07
you send it specifically
22:09
to someone at MPD or
22:12
do they have to request it? Can I
22:14
take it in like a
22:17
you know, a downloaded form and transport
22:19
it from you to them type of thing.
22:21
And you know, she basically said, well, they
22:23
have to request it from us, and
22:26
she's like, don't worry, they do it all the time for other types
22:28
of crimes. I'm like, yeah, I'll you know, I'll
22:30
believe it when I see it, which is particular to one.
22:39
Robin contacted the Minneapolis Police
22:41
Department and let them know about the video. Again,
22:44
the MPD took the information, but
22:46
Robin didn't get the feelings they were going to move
22:48
on it, so he pressed on with
22:51
his investigation. Now,
22:53
each bike has a unique serial
22:55
number on the frame, kind of like your
22:57
car's been number. Knowing that the
23:00
turg was caught on video, Robin
23:02
needed to go back to the police department with his bike's
23:04
actual serial number, so that if the police
23:06
put in the work and found the thief,
23:08
they could confirm that the bike in his possession
23:11
was in fact Robin's.
23:12
I called up the hub the
23:14
Bike co Op and had to get
23:16
my serial numbers so I could amend
23:19
my police report. And
23:21
it was in the course of talking
23:24
with them, I asked, you know, what do you guys recommend
23:26
doing in a situation like that? Do you have any tips,
23:28
anything that I can do to be proactive because
23:31
I didn't really have high hopes from
23:34
MPD, knowing what I know about
23:36
their short staffing and stuff like that.
23:41
They basically said, well, good luck,
23:43
man, but don't expect MPD to do anything.
23:45
That's just not going to
23:48
happen. But what you can
23:50
do is join this Facebook group
23:52
called Twin Cities Stolen Bikes.
23:55
I was like, there's a Facebook group
23:57
for stolen bikes. That was news
23:59
to me.
24:02
You'd think the social media group would have
24:05
maybe a few dozen or possibly
24:07
a few hundred members, but you'd
24:09
be wildly off in that estimation. The
24:12
Facebook page of Twin City Stolen Bikes
24:14
now has over eight thousand,
24:17
three hundred members, and it's a
24:19
vigilante group with one primary purpose
24:21
reconnecting bike owners with their stolen bikes.
24:25
Bike theft is a real problem nationwide
24:27
because it hits that sweet spot of being
24:29
a big enough financial grab to make it worth
24:31
the thieves while but not big
24:34
enough to spark the interest of law enforcement.
24:36
It's also unique in that the stolen property
24:38
acts as the getaway vehicle. A
24:41
July twenty nineteen study published
24:43
by Project five twenty nine a
24:45
bike registry organization, found
24:47
that over two million bikes are stolen
24:49
each year in North America, meaning one
24:52
is stolen every thirty seconds, making
24:54
it a billion dollar problem. Over
24:57
the last two decades, bike thefts have doubled,
25:00
and one analysis by The Oregonian in
25:02
Portland found that only two percent of reported
25:05
bike thefts in their city resulted in
25:07
arrests. Many cities with
25:09
flourishing bicycle cultures have bike recovery
25:11
Facebook groups, but at most they
25:13
number in the hundreds of members. Twin
25:16
cities, stolen Bikes membership far exceeds
25:19
any other town, giving an indication
25:21
of the extent of the problem. In Minneapolis, law
25:23
enforcement is obviously not
25:26
curbing the crime problem, and that's
25:28
the dynamic that typically gives rise to vigilante
25:30
groups.
25:33
So there's a huge array
25:35
of these groups and it's so
25:38
interesting where they come up.
25:39
That's Sarah M. Robinson, co author
25:41
of the book Shadow Vigilantes,
25:43
how distrust in the justice system breeds
25:46
a new kind of lawlessness.
25:48
And for instance, San Francisco used
25:50
to be unfriendly towards
25:54
their gay community, and
25:57
so of the gay community
26:00
formed the Lavender Panthers right
26:02
there with the Black panthers and
26:05
they took on the gay bashers. The
26:07
police wouldn't, so they did.
26:10
They got the grapemobile, they
26:12
got I don't know, like a VW
26:15
van. They painted at lavender and
26:17
if somebody was in trouble, they'd get a call
26:19
and these guys would leap out with their
26:21
pool sticks and start whacking back,
26:24
and suddenly the police were willing to
26:26
address it. You know, if somebody
26:28
comes to a bar and starts hassling
26:31
some gay community member, they
26:34
whip out their pool sticks and they lay into them.
26:36
Well, suddenly the police are motivated.
26:40
Or during the Civil Rights
26:42
era, there was a group called the Deacons
26:44
of Defense and Justice
26:47
and they were vets who were back
26:49
in the Delta and they
26:51
weren't going to tolerate the
26:53
the klu Klux Klan and the
26:56
authorities siding with them, so they
26:58
stood up. These were American
27:01
veterans who were armed, they
27:03
knew how to use their weapons and they just
27:05
said no, and what do you know, it
27:07
worked. So there is a lot of vigilanteism,
27:11
and it's hard to say that these people are necessarily
27:13
wrong to do whatever it is they're doing.
27:16
When law and order isn't fulfilling its obligation
27:18
to the public. Large vigilante groups
27:20
like Twin Cities Stolen Bikes organically
27:22
form again, Sarah M. Robinson,
27:25
think about all the vigilante movies.
27:27
People care about justice.
27:30
So are they getting their eight
27:32
thousand people just because people care
27:35
about stolen bikes or are they getting
27:37
their eight thousand people because people care
27:39
about justice and this is a way
27:41
that they can participate in justice.
27:44
And I'm not saying which is which, but
27:46
it seems eight thousand is a very
27:48
big number if we're just responding
27:51
to stolen bikes. But if
27:53
what we're responding to is this idea
27:56
that I can do something about justice,
27:59
well, those start to make a lot more
28:01
sense to me.
28:02
The eight thousand plus membership is what also
28:04
caught Robin's eye.
28:05
And that's what piqued my interest into
28:08
thinking that this is a larger problem
28:10
than I had even realized.
28:13
So I did. I linked up
28:15
to the group, spoke
28:17
with an administrator, went through the whole process
28:19
of getting enrolled or
28:22
become a member or whatever. I posted
28:24
my bike with the image
28:26
that I had posted all the particulars
28:29
and reached
28:32
out to various people and just asked him for tips
28:35
and my friends and family
28:37
and so forth.
28:38
The feedback that he got was that he needed to start
28:40
monitoring all the resale apps and websites
28:42
because the thief was going to likely try and
28:44
sell the stolen merchandise in the very
28:47
near future.
28:48
And so I downloaded a bunch of resale
28:50
apps and started
28:53
checking out Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace,
28:56
and I just became part
28:58
of my job basically, did you
29:01
know, did that two three times a day, morning,
29:03
lunch, break, in the evening, just
29:07
page through and I had some free time.
29:11
At the close of Tuesday, though he found
29:13
nothing. He searched again on Wednesday,
29:16
still nothing. Then Thursday
29:18
and Friday came and went. No
29:20
sign of his bike. Robin was getting
29:22
discouraged, and on top of that, he
29:25
had no transportation. He was forced
29:27
to walk the roughly twenty blocks to work
29:29
him back, no doubt, his anger and frustration
29:32
building all along the way.
29:33
And at this point, I'm thinking, you know, this
29:36
is not happening. You know, I was just
29:38
kind of getting dejected about it. I
29:40
debated, you know, biting the bullet and
29:42
buying a new bike and putting down more money
29:44
and whatnot. But I just figured, you know, I'm gonna
29:46
give it at least a week. It's not meant to be.
29:48
After a week, then I'll start really thinking about it.
29:51
So I had I had
29:53
done my like mid afternoon
29:55
scrolling for the day on Saturday, and I was just
29:57
hanging about watching TV. I don't even know what I was
29:59
doing really, when I get a DM
30:02
from one of the administrators in the group.
30:04
The administrators of the Twin City Stolen Bike
30:06
group are the Internet nerds, and I
30:08
mean that affectionately, glued to the reselling
30:11
apps.
30:12
Saying Hey, I see your bikes for sale
30:14
on Facebook Marketplace. I'm I'm
30:16
going to establish a buy and you
30:18
know, get the ball rolling on that. And immediately
30:22
my heart starts pounding. I'm like, you
30:24
know, kind of like that nervous energy you've got
30:26
a big job interview, you're about to take
30:28
a girl out on a first date type thing. I was just like,
30:30
you've got to be kidd by, you know, kind of get
30:32
all jittery, like it had too
30:34
much caffeine.
30:36
So Robin logs into Facebook Marketplace
30:38
to check out the bike listing that the nerd
30:40
sent him, and sure enough it
30:42
was his bike.
30:43
That's it. I mean, yeah, there's some
30:45
parts stripped off of it, but that is it,
30:48
I mean, because the nice thing about my bike
30:50
is that it is customized. I mean it has blue
30:52
bike cables, it has blue handlebar wrap, it
30:54
has a white white pedals, you know, so it's
30:57
very distinct from the
31:00
model that I could have just had.
31:10
Robin had a mix of emotions. He
31:12
was elated that he'd found his bike, but
31:14
he was enraged at the same time. Here
31:17
is the guy trying to sell his bike, the one
31:19
he'd put a whopping sixteen hundred
31:21
dollars into. The heist was
31:23
caught on tape, Yet the Minneapolis
31:26
Police Department was not helping. The
31:28
injustice of it all ate away at Robin
31:31
and a vigilante was born.
31:33
It was like, I'm going to beat
31:35
the mother. And
31:38
I am so happy that it's not
31:40
been sold yet, that it's still posted online,
31:43
that I can still see it out there, that
31:45
it's not gone yet,
31:47
because once it's gone, I mean it it's gone.
31:50
So Robin found it. Now
31:52
all he had to do was try to schedule
31:54
a bye with the thief. But this
31:57
is where things got a little tricky. Trying
31:59
to contact the seller. Be a Facebook
32:01
means that your real identity would likely be given
32:03
over to a person that has committed a felony.
32:06
He got an itchy finger and reached out to the guy
32:08
using his real Facebook identity. But
32:11
then Robin got wise and shifted tactics.
32:14
So I see the ad and I
32:16
reach out to my close core
32:19
buddies and my family, sister,
32:21
brother in law, and we
32:23
all. I was like, okay, so this is what we're going to do. Everybody
32:26
established like a fictitious profile
32:29
if you can, if you're willing to do it, and you don't
32:31
want to use your own, the nice thing
32:34
is the TCSB. That's what I'm
32:36
going to refer to him as the bike
32:38
club. They had a bunch of fictitious
32:40
profiles created, so I logged
32:43
in as that person and
32:45
started to try and make a buy of my own, as well
32:47
as my other buddies, many of whom live out
32:49
state, so they didn't care if they had a fictitious
32:52
profile or not. They just used their own. So
32:56
we all tried to establish
32:58
a buy like, hey, is this fruit still for sale?
33:00
How much you're offering? You know, can
33:03
I do a test drive type of questions
33:05
stuff like that. So we
33:07
all started that process and I
33:09
called MPD again.
33:12
Now by now, I probably called them
33:14
three four times throughout the week, just you
33:16
know, give him a couple of updates of what
33:19
I knew, stuff like that about the
33:21
video, like hey, there's video footage, still
33:23
frame, blah blah blah. And I've
33:26
got some friends on the force here, so
33:28
I was reaching out to them as well, and
33:30
they're like, oh, man, you're kidding. You got this info.
33:32
That's great, y'all reach out to the
33:35
lieutenant or whatever in the property
33:37
crimes group. But
33:39
nobody ever got back to me. Nobody
33:41
ever called me back.
33:43
Now, remember Robin hadn't been given
33:45
access to the video of the heightst captured by the hospital,
33:48
so he couldn't be sure if the guy selling
33:50
his bike was the same guy that stole it. The
33:52
seller looked in his mid twenties, white
33:54
guy, tallish, maybe six foot one,
33:57
broad shoulders. He had the frame of
33:59
a big dude, like he was withering
34:01
away. So
34:05
he began to dig deeper into the cellar
34:07
to see what he could find.
34:09
So I've got some technologist
34:12
buddies as well, and they
34:14
started nerding out on this
34:16
guy who was selling it on Facebook,
34:20
and they started looking him up in Criminal
34:22
databases and lo
34:24
and behold, this guy who was selling
34:27
it was using his actual
34:29
real name. And how do we know that
34:32
because we found him
34:34
on probation in Hennepin County
34:36
for theft, and we matched
34:39
up the photos, same name, same
34:42
face, dead match.
34:43
Posting a stolen bike under a real name
34:46
is so easily trackable. This
34:48
gives a good indication of Howifreid, Minneapolis
34:51
bike these are of local law enforcement. Translation,
34:54
they have zero fear. So
34:58
Robin took it upon himself to apply
35:00
some pressure. His tech friends
35:02
helped him track down the thief's probation officer.
35:05
Robin tried calling, but it was the weekend, so no
35:07
one picked up. He left a voicemail,
35:10
then emailed the thief's Facebook profile
35:12
to the probation officer along with the stolen
35:14
bike, listing this thief stole
35:16
from the wrong guy.
35:18
Finally, late Saturday
35:20
afternoon, the seller responded, but
35:23
he wouldn't lock in a time and location with Robin.
35:26
Day turned into night, and Robin continued
35:28
to try to schedule a meet up with the seller, but
35:30
the thief was being a little cagey, and
35:33
there was good reason. Robin made
35:35
an early mistake. He originally
35:37
reached out to the cellar using his actual Facebook
35:39
profile. The thief possibly realized
35:42
that the owner was one of the guys that inquired about
35:44
the bike, making everyone suspicious
35:46
to him. Either way, the seller
35:48
wasn't locking in on a time and location to
35:50
meet him. Robin's early excitement
35:53
may have jeopardized the entire recon operation,
35:56
so he had to take a step back and play it cool,
35:58
much more nonchalant. He
36:02
tried contacting the seller again using
36:05
the fake Facebook accounts.
36:07
I was like, hey, you know, it's kind of getting late, because
36:09
now by now we've been pushing him from like
36:11
five five thirty at nights about nine
36:13
nine thirty at night. I was like, you know, we
36:15
can we can still meet up tonight if you want. I'm
36:17
free, I've got nothing to do type of thing. He's
36:20
like, he gave me some random cross
36:22
street that he was nearby, but
36:24
no real set time, Like, hey, let's
36:26
meet at this point in time type of deal.
36:29
Robin turned to the cops again for
36:31
help.
36:32
I called MPD back and I was like, hey,
36:34
this my bike's being listed right
36:36
It's on sale for marketplace right now.
36:38
And they basically said that
36:41
all that they could do was wait you
36:43
know, I would have to set up a buy
36:46
if I could, and then contact
36:48
them and within
36:50
like a thirty minute window and they
36:52
would show up at the meeting point to help
36:54
me recover the bike. I
37:01
was like, okay, well, you know, I'll
37:03
try. I mean, all I've got right now is
37:05
a cross street but no set time
37:08
type of thing. And they're like, well, we can't do it
37:10
unless you've got a setup time,
37:13
you know, very specific type of thing. Mind you, this
37:15
is a Saturday night and there was some
37:18
block party going on, so they were short, shorter
37:20
staffed. I mean I called back
37:22
into the precinct I think two or three times that
37:25
night, and it was the
37:27
same Ky each time. He's like, listen, you
37:29
know, I know this sucks type of
37:31
thing, but you know, unless you've got something
37:33
concrete, I can't send anybody out
37:35
for you type of deal. I'm like, okay,
37:38
well what time you know, And plus they've got a
37:40
ten o'clock recovery cutoff.
37:41
Time, meaning the property recovery department
37:43
closes at ten pm.
37:45
Which makes sense safety wise, so
37:47
we were bumping up against that time frame. So I
37:49
just you know, kind of casually
37:51
almost indifferent. DM, the
37:54
seller back said Hey, you know what, it's getting late. I'm
37:56
free all day Sunday. Let
37:58
me know what time works best type of thing,
38:01
I'm available whatever. So at this point,
38:03
you know, I'm kind of in that mode
38:06
of like, this could not go well, this
38:08
could be gone in the morning, but
38:10
you know, I'm gonna be hopeful.
38:12
Vigilante groups like Twin City Stolen Bikes
38:14
tend to attract people with different expertise.
38:17
There's first the ringleader, the guy that starts
38:19
the group again Sarah M. Robinson.
38:22
And somewhere in the organization
38:24
is somebody who has the skills to make it happen,
38:26
because it's never doesn't seem very
38:29
hard to get people to help, but it does
38:31
seem to hard to get the person who
38:33
says, let's make this happen and this is how
38:35
it's done.
38:36
Then others begin to fill rolls around the first
38:38
mover. In the case of Twin City Stolen
38:41
Bikes, there are the Internet nerds, like the
38:43
guy who contacted Robin first telling him that he
38:45
found the bike on the Facebook marketplace. Then
38:47
there's the guys that like to do the field work, the
38:50
ones that are actually physically recovering
38:52
the bike. Let's call them the recovery specialists.
38:55
Robin was contacted by one of these specialists
38:58
on Saturday night. Next serrvicesman
39:00
that boasted seventy five bike
39:02
recoveries. The specialist actually
39:04
knew the guy that stole Robin's bike.
39:07
He texts me after he was
39:09
off work. He's like, don't worry, man, I know this
39:11
guy. I've seen him before.
39:14
I know his friends. I've recovered
39:16
bikes off of them before. They're
39:18
total junkies. They won't remember
39:21
me. I know his buddy,
39:23
and he's getting off work soon, and
39:25
I'm gonna go swing by his place of work
39:28
and see if maybe he leads me to so
39:31
and so. Right, So, I was just
39:33
floored that this guy not only was
39:35
going to help me out, but he knew
39:37
the thief, and he knew the thief's
39:40
buddies by face, right,
39:43
because he recovered bikes off him before.
39:45
So he's texted me. He goes
39:47
to this guy's work, wats for him to get off
39:50
He actually he's so brazen.
39:52
He goes up to this guy and he's like, hey,
39:55
Jack or whatever, John, whatever his name
39:57
was, And the guy had just kind of ignored him,
39:59
and he was like he was just about to nod off
40:01
dude, because these guys are all
40:04
junkies and just
40:06
fixing their habit basically, so he
40:09
didn't even recognize them, so he followed him. He didn't
40:11
have any success, but he then started
40:14
his own buy attempt later that night.
40:16
But Saturday ended with no set time
40:18
to meet the seller. By the next
40:20
morning, there was still no word.
40:23
I do my normal Sunday Sunday thing.
40:27
Didn't go to church that morning, just wanted to be
40:29
online and ready, you know, waiting and
40:31
everything. So and
40:35
I shot out a few messages and then you know, I don't
40:37
want to be too early, like eight to nine in the morning
40:39
type of deal. So yeah, waited a little bit, ten
40:41
thirty eleven. Hey man, let's meet up by
40:43
the biking stadium type of deal, you know,
40:45
looking to buy it. Blah blah blah.
40:47
But the week had taken its toll on Robin. The
40:49
stress of losing the bike, then finding it,
40:51
hunting down info on the perp, trying
40:53
to get the cops involved, attempting to set up a bye
40:55
time. The rollercoaster of it all wore
40:58
him out a bit, so he began to veg
41:00
out on a PBS documentary, but
41:04
just as he was fully engrossed into some social
41:06
biology film, he gets a notification
41:09
on his phone. The Internet nerd
41:11
from Twin City Stolen Bike sent him a message.
41:14
And he goes, hey, you realize
41:16
there's been a DM back
41:19
from the cellar right.
41:20
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41:22
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Welcome back. So Robin
41:43
was worn out from his rollercoaster of a week trying
41:46
to get back his bike, so he began
41:48
to veg out on a PBS documentary. But
41:51
just as he was fully engrossed into some social
41:53
biology film, he gets a notification
41:56
on his phone. The internet nerd
41:58
from the Twin City Stolen Bike sent
42:00
him a message.
42:02
And he goes, hey, you realize
42:04
there's been a DM back
42:07
on the from the cellar right. I was like, oh crap,
42:09
you know, so I quick get back on and
42:12
the guy is trying to pull the old Uh yeah,
42:14
I'd love to sell it to you type of thing.
42:17
Yeah, I'll even drop twenty five bucks off of
42:19
it because the back tires flat.
42:21
It's like, okay, sure it is. Yeah,
42:24
it makes sense. He's doing this before. He doesn't
42:26
want to meet up with some random and have
42:29
me go on a test drive and then walk
42:31
off with it, you know, or bike off with it, so he
42:33
flattens the tires.
42:34
Robin gets the cellar to lockdown a time. They'll
42:37
meet at the intersection of Portland Avenue in
42:39
Franklin Street, in front of the Halal Meat
42:41
Market, the heart of South Minneapolis,
42:43
near the border of the Somali part of town.
42:46
Not the safest of neighborhoods down that
42:48
way.
42:50
Robin wasn't going to blow it this time. He
42:53
was going to play a cool, not too anxious.
42:56
The thief was no doubt experienced at
42:58
this game. Robin was new to it, but
43:00
learning quickly.
43:01
And again I was kind of casual about it. I was like, yeah, I can
43:03
meet you up maybe in two hours something like that. How
43:05
does that sound?
43:06
You know.
43:06
I just wanted to be you know, you
43:09
know, appease him more or less,
43:11
Uh, just say one gets suspicious.
43:14
And so then
43:16
I got the time and I got the location, so I hit
43:19
up the recovery specialists,
43:22
and he's He's
43:24
like, okay, perfect, I got to go home to get my
43:27
bike. I'll come by and scoop you
43:29
up, and then we'll go and get there early so
43:31
we can so we can do this. I was
43:33
like, all right, perfect.
43:34
Let's take a step back for a moment and just marvel
43:37
at this situation. Here's Robin,
43:39
a newly christened vigilante, searching
43:41
for his sixteen hundred dollars bicycle, first
43:43
working with the Internet nerd of the Twin Cities
43:46
Stolen Bike Club, a perfect stranger
43:48
to locate the bike, and now he's
43:50
waiting to be picked up by the recovery specialist,
43:53
another complete stranger, to embark
43:55
on a recon mission to retrieve his stolen
43:57
bike. How does something like this even happen?
44:11
I mean, initially yes, I was like, why
44:13
are these guys going to help me? Like for what?
44:15
But after joining their group and following their
44:17
posts, he began to figure out why
44:21
Robin got his bike stolen on Monday. He
44:23
began monitoring the Twin City Stolen Bike group
44:25
shortly after, and by the next Sunday
44:27
there were roughly an additional fifty more
44:29
stolen bike listings. That's over
44:31
seven bikes a day, likely well over
44:33
fifty grand for the week, and that's only
44:35
the ones that were reported on the site. This
44:38
was a criminal industry in action, and.
44:40
It gets to the point, yeah, you know where
44:42
there's no deterrent currently
44:45
and.
44:45
The criminals know it. So
44:53
the recovery specialists arrived at Robin's
44:55
pad to pick him up.
45:00
He was probably i'd say mid
45:02
forties, a former
45:04
MP in the army. He
45:07
a total, total shaved head.
45:11
He shows up and you know, we
45:14
introduce ourselves and whatnot. And
45:17
we're in the car and he had been texting me overnight
45:19
and he is shooting me pictures. He's like, you
45:22
know, if it, uh, you know, if it comes
45:24
right down to it, I've got I've got some thief
45:26
be gone. And he shows me this canister which
45:29
is a giant probably oh,
45:31
I would say, maybe this large
45:34
sized cannister of bear mace. Uh.
45:36
And he's got one of those I don't even want
45:38
what they're called, like those police batons
45:41
that kind of extend out when you
45:43
whip it a little bit. I don't know what they're called.
45:45
Anyway, So he's got all this gear and
45:48
so we drive to the spot, and I'm kind
45:50
of getting a little nervous because I'm like, you know what, we're
45:52
bumping up close to the time. I want to be there a little
45:54
early, you know, so we're not late type of thing. And
45:56
he, you know, backs out anyway,
45:58
So we do. We get there early. We park
46:00
in a little back parking lot
46:05
of a nearby establishment. He gets out
46:07
his bike, he saddles up, puts all
46:09
his gear in his pockets and whatnot. We
46:12
devise our scheme, which was to me to ultimately
46:14
go to the corner of the meetup spot, and
46:17
he was going to circle around the block to see
46:19
if he could spot him coming. So
46:21
he did, he couldn't find he didn't see him initially
46:24
in his first pass around the block,
46:27
I findal made it to the intersection at
46:29
the meeting point.
46:30
As the recovery specialist circled around, he
46:33
saw another guy, a big, burly bearded
46:35
dude on a bike. The
46:41
specialist stopped him, apprised him
46:43
of the situation and asked if he'd help in
46:45
case the thief made a run for it, and.
46:47
The guy was like, yeah, sure, I'd be happy to help. So no
46:51
sooner had he done that, but
46:53
I'm like, you know, kaka,
46:55
because I see the guy walking up the street
46:58
with my bike.
47:00
The thief had arrived, but Robin
47:03
was stuck across the intersection from the burglar
47:05
with heavy traffic flowing through the street.
47:08
So I can't do anything yet at this
47:10
point.
47:10
But the recovery specialist and his new
47:13
burly sidekick were near the culprit
47:15
and they decided to make their move. They
47:18
confronted the thief and grabbed a hold of his
47:20
bike's handlebars. The excitement
47:22
got the best of them and Robin couldn't
47:24
wait any longer, and.
47:25
I dart out basically in the traffic,
47:28
almost got hit by a bar, you
47:31
know, stunted, waited for the car to go by, and
47:36
then I just took off. You I had full tilt,
47:39
you know, running as fast as I can, and
47:41
had I wanted to, it could have just easily
47:43
been a straight up, you know, tackle
47:46
of the guy straight down onto the concrete
47:48
type of thing, you know, felony
47:50
type of assault on my part.
47:52
But you know, they both got hands on the handlebars,
47:55
so I know I'm in good company there. I
47:57
know that you know, we've got it possession.
48:00
I was like, yep, that's mine, and for
48:02
ninety seconds, I'm just raging
48:05
on this dude just in his face.
48:08
He's taller than me by like maybe two inches
48:10
or so, probably has at this point
48:13
maybe only like ten five pounds
48:15
on me. And I literally just
48:17
haven't raged like that since I was a hormonal
48:19
teenager, honestly.
48:21
But the seller said that he hadn't stolen the bike,
48:23
he'd bought it off Craigslist.
48:25
I mean, my heart was, my heart rate was elevated.
48:28
It was probably like beating over my head out
48:31
of my chest type of thing. And I you
48:33
know, like like, I know your probation officer.
48:36
I've already called him. You know, he's having
48:38
fun going back to jail type of thing.
48:44
But his eyes lit up as soon as
48:46
I mentioned his probation officer's
48:48
name, and he did one of those the
48:51
classic like cartoon
48:53
like the backwalking. You know,
48:55
just kind of started backwalking like
48:58
you'd walk into a room and then you just kind of
49:00
eyes get wide and start backwalking, and
49:02
then all of a sudden, you know, he just kind of turned around
49:04
and just started scampering away like at a
49:07
very fast pace with.
49:08
His bike now in hand, chasing after
49:10
the thief didn't make as much sense. The
49:13
burly bearded guy had groceries and
49:15
had to get home. Robin's tire had
49:17
a flat, so he couldn't chase him down, and
49:19
there was no need to put the recovery specialist
49:21
in a dangerous situation like you know what.
49:23
At this point, I think we have enough to go on
49:26
where well, you know
49:28
it, we'll just nab him once they get
49:30
in contact with the cops and his po and
49:32
we'll just get him that way, Which.
49:40
Leads us back to the question when is it
49:42
okay to take the law into your own hands.
49:48
In Robin's case, he performed his own
49:50
investigation, found video of the theft,
49:52
identified the culprit, alerted his probation
49:55
officer, and tried to get the police involved
49:57
all along the way. When he couldn't get them
49:59
to help, Robin joined a vigilanti group
50:02
to seek justice on his own, and
50:04
he succeeded without breaking the
50:06
law. Robin still hasn't heard
50:08
back from the police, and we tried contacting
50:10
them ourselves with no response. So
50:13
when is it okay to take the law into your own
50:15
hands? The answer is, well,
50:18
this one time, We're going to leave that answer
50:20
up to you. But I think it's fair
50:22
to say that the answer looks a lot like
50:24
the vigilante justice of Robin
50:26
Hour. We recently spoke
50:28
to Robin and he told us someone tried to steal
50:30
his back again shortly after the George Floyd
50:33
riots. They didn't succeed, but
50:35
the attempt left his chariot inoperable.
50:38
Robin decided he's had enough and he's leaving
50:40
Minneapolis for greener pastures. We
50:43
wish him and his bye good luck.
50:45
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50:50
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