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I stand by my statements.

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They were suggesting Candace Owens was an anti

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from Fox News.

1:09

A friend strongly suggested that she

1:11

visit the leaders of one of the Jewish

1:13

outfits that condemned her, the Simon

1:15

Wiesenthal Center, and.

1:16

My reputation was restored, or at least

1:18

I was allowed to go on pursuing what I

1:20

wanted to pursue. I need to ask you about

1:23

the Kanye issues so famously had

1:25

a little bit of a head of head on Twitter.

1:26

Maybe I was emotional in my response. The

1:29

two appeared to have buried the hatchet.

1:30

I would love to join the Daily Wire.

1:32

The Candice appeared to have no idea what

1:34

she was stepping into.

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looking for the answer to the question what can

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we do to stop the spread of anti Semitism

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by telling the story of the epic conflict

2:39

between Candace Owens and The Daily Wire.

2:44

So to pick up where we left off on Election

2:46

night twenty twenty, Candace Owens was

2:48

set to join the burgeoning streaming service,

2:50

The Daily Wire. It was a big move

2:52

for everyone involved. A Daily Wire

2:55

was adding a black female conservative,

2:57

an outsider anti victimhood champion,

3:00

to their all male talent roster, and

3:02

Candace was moving from the nonprofit space

3:05

to the exponentially growing private right

3:07

wing media industry. She was

3:09

rightfully excited.

3:10

Hanna Owens is coming to Nashville,

3:12

baby, all right.

3:14

But Candace appeared to have no idea

3:16

what she was stepping into because the Daily

3:18

Wire had a very specific agenda

3:20

that had long been in operation, one

3:23

that was at odds with everything that she represented.

3:26

A seasoned die could see that a future

3:28

breakup was a near certainty. All

3:31

one needed to understand was how The

3:33

Daily Wire was created, and more specifically,

3:35

the backstory on the partnership of two of its

3:38

founders, Ben Shapiro and Jeremy

3:40

Boring.

3:53

Jeremy Boring was born in nineteen

3:56

seventy nine in a small town in

3:58

northwest Texas called Slave. The

4:01

town was established by German immigrants,

4:03

and even with the population of roughly sixty

4:06

three hundred, it had a pretty vibrant entertainment

4:08

scene. It's nestled just southeast

4:10

of the hub city of Lubbock, which produced

4:13

music legend Buddy Holly and Natalie

4:15

Mains of the Dixie Chicks. From a

4:17

young age, Jeremy says he was itching

4:19

to leave the small town plains of Slayton

4:22

for bigger pastures, and a chance

4:24

meeting while in elementary school would eventually

4:26

provide a pathway out.

4:30

In first grade, Jeremy met a

4:32

boy whose father ran the local entertainment

4:35

scene. Before he'd even reached

4:37

his teens. That relationship would lead

4:39

to an opportunity working on light and sound

4:41

at a local theater. It

4:43

wasn't long before he caught the showbiz

4:45

bug. He'd eventually moved out

4:47

to Hollywood with big dreams of becoming

4:50

an actor, but after a few auditions

4:52

and being surrounded by others with the same goal,

4:54

he quickly concluded that he didn't have the required

4:57

personality to play Make Believe. The

5:00

the course of the next few years, he took a stab at

5:02

screenwriting, directing, and film producing.

5:05

He had some minor successes. He produced

5:07

a low budget psychological thriller, but

5:09

Jeremy was still having trouble breaking through.

5:13

While trying to get things off the ground in Tinseltown,

5:15

he led a Bible study. Jeremy

5:17

is a Protestant and has expressed a belief

5:20

that God gave the land of Israel to the

5:22

Jews as an everlasting inheritance.

5:25

So it's fair to say that Jeremy Boring

5:27

is a Christian Zionist, someone

5:29

that believes that the state of Israel belongs

5:31

to Jews through biblical prophecy.

5:34

Around two thousand and eight, Jeremy says

5:36

someone from his Bible study told him about

5:38

his secret Hollywood Conservative group.

5:41

He spoke candidly about that time

5:43

on the Ben Shapiro Sunday Special show.

5:45

That was also hungry and desperate. I wanted

5:47

to succeed.

5:48

I was starting to get resentful of my friends who were succeeding,

5:50

which is a terrible sign. When you can't be happy

5:52

for your friends, you've got a little bit of a cancer.

5:54

And I was confused. I didn't know what to do.

5:56

And another friend of mine, who attended the Home

5:58

Study at that time, the Bible Study, invited

6:01

me to this secret Hollywood

6:04

meeting of conservatives

6:06

called Friends of Abe.

6:07

The name Friends of Abe has a bit of

6:09

a story behind it. In the mid

6:11

twentieth century, homosexual acts

6:13

were not only taboo in America, they

6:16

were also illegal, so gays

6:18

would often identify one another by asking

6:20

if they were a friend of Dorothy. Dorothy

6:23

being Judy Garland's character in the Tinseltown

6:25

classic The Wizard of Oz. Garland

6:27

was a gay icon, so using the

6:29

code phrase friend of Dorothy was a way

6:32

for gays to safely find each other.

6:34

About fifty years later, gays

6:36

were living openly in Hollywood, but the

6:38

same could not be said for conservatives.

6:41

In the early two thousands, sentiments

6:44

in Tinseltown turned sharply against George

6:46

W. Bush's War on Terror. As

6:48

a result, although not officially

6:50

outlawed like homosexuality, in the nineteen

6:52

fifties, being Republican in Hollywood

6:55

could quietly land you on a blacklist,

6:58

so conservatives found themsels hiding

7:00

their political inclinations. In essence,

7:03

by two thousand and four, it was easier

7:05

to be gay in Tinseltown than a right winger.

7:08

A conservative screenwriter named Lionel

7:10

Chetwynd wanted to do something about it.

7:13

In a nod to the code phrase friend of

7:15

Dorothy, Lionel teamed up with actor

7:17

Gary Sinise to start a secret Hollywood

7:20

group called the Friends of Abe or

7:23

FOA as it came to be known.

7:25

I started having lunches with I met Gary Sinise

7:27

on a backstage at the show, and he

7:29

was doing some wonderful work for Operation or Akie

7:31

Children, and in rended. Then slowly but surely

7:33

we became friends, and he began speaking politics

7:35

of me. And he was a nine elevener, never

7:38

really considered his politics until

7:40

nine to eleven, and I formed a group became

7:42

known as Friends of Abe.

7:43

The ABE was a reference to Republican

7:45

President Abraham Lincoln. In

7:53

one of the first published stories about the

7:55

FOA in two thousand and eight, Lionel Chetwynd

7:57

described the impetus for the group to the Washing

8:00

in.

8:00

Times, A friend of ABE is someone

8:02

who has reverence for those who serve in

8:04

our military and believes that American liberal

8:06

democracy is a unique success, different

8:09

from others, and it's worthy of the respect

8:11

of our popular culture of Hollywood

8:13

in particular.

8:14

The nature of the founders gave the FOA

8:16

a very specific doctrine. At

8:18

the time. Gary Sonise was a big supporter

8:21

of the so called War on Terror, frequently

8:23

making public appearances for US troops

8:25

in the Middle East. As for Lionel

8:28

Chetwynd, He's Jewish, so

8:30

from the outset there was an unwritten

8:32

rule that the FOA was a strong supporter

8:34

of the State of Israel. The

8:38

secret FOA group, Jeremy Boring's

8:41

friend described, sounded exciting to

8:43

him at the time. He was

8:45

a struggling Hollywood filmmaker that felt

8:47

a bit lost. He was yearning for

8:49

community his Bible study.

8:51

Friend said. The group talked about politics

8:53

in the same way as Jeremy. Maybe

8:55

it was time to dump the culture path and search

8:57

for a new way forward. He

9:00

decided to give the.

9:00

Group a try, and I met all these underground

9:03

Hollywood conservatives.

9:05

This was getting close to two thousand and eight.

9:06

And I just realized like I could have a voice

9:09

and things that were important to me in

9:11

politics that I couldn't have if I

9:13

kept pursuing culture. At that first

9:15

meeting, Andrew Breibart was there.

9:17

The late conservative publisher of Breitbart dot.

9:19

Com, Bill Woodle was there. Our buddy Johnny Voight

9:21

was there.

9:22

So a lot of people who became sort of the second half of

9:24

my Hollywood life, the people who are very important

9:26

to me.

9:27

For a few years, Jeremy was just a

9:29

regular member of the Friends of ABE. But

9:31

then around twenty eleven, the FOA

9:34

approached him with an opportunity.

9:35

They came to me and asked me if I would take it over and run

9:37

it.

9:38

The founder wanted to step away, he was doing some very

9:40

important philanthropy at the time

9:42

that he wanted to focus his attention on.

9:44

Jeremy said yes. He became its

9:47

executive director. The kid from

9:49

Slayton, Texas was about to start on

9:51

an entirely new path, one

9:53

that focused on politics instead of

9:55

culture. About a year before

9:57

he took the lead at the FOA, Jeremy

9:59

met a young lawyer and author named Ben

10:01

Shapiro. At the time they met in

10:03

twenty ten, Ben was trying to figure

10:05

things out himself. With a law degree

10:07

from Harvard, he'd left a high paying

10:10

law firm to try and make it in either Hollywood

10:12

or the media. He

10:16

explained those early days to the Iced

10:18

Coffee Hour.

10:19

I speak fast, I type fast, I write fast,

10:21

I edit quickly. That is not what you want as a

10:24

lawyer who is billing hours. When you bill hours,

10:26

they bill you by the hour, so it disincentivizes

10:28

efficiency. And so I decided I couldn't

10:30

take it. And after about ten months, I turned to

10:32

my wife and she turned me and she's like, you're miserable. He's

10:35

just quit. And this is right before we were about

10:37

to get married. And I was like, well, we

10:39

just got a condo, we just got a mortgage,

10:41

and we're about to get married. And she's like, yeah,

10:44

but you're miserable. You should quit.

10:45

It was around that time that a friend connected

10:47

Ben with a job.

10:48

And I talked to my friend Andrew Breitbart, who I had

10:51

known since I was sixteen years old and I was at UCLA.

10:53

If you haven't figured it out yet, Andrew

10:55

Breitbart was everywhere in conservative

10:57

circles. He was, without a doubt, the

10:59

sh a Shepherd of conservative new media.

11:02

Andrew was the connector and the

11:04

glue that held the movement together. In

11:06

two thousand and seven, he came up with the idea

11:08

for the Breitbart News Network while in Jerusalem

11:11

with his childhood best friend Larry Solov.

11:14

Larry would later say that on the night

11:16

they conceived the company, the one thing

11:18

Andrew and him specifically discussed.

11:21

Was quote our desire to start a site

11:23

that would be unapologetically pro freedom

11:25

and pro Israel.

11:26

Andrew fit right in with the FOA

11:29

and would become a driving force behind

11:31

membership. In fact, he brought

11:33

your humble co hosts into the FOA

11:35

in August two thousand and nine. There

11:37

would have been no Friends of ABE without Andrew

11:39

Breitbart, a fact no one could

11:41

deny after his passing. This

11:44

is all to say that when Andrew approached Ben

11:46

Shapiro in two thousand and nine about an opportunity.

11:49

Then listened and Andrew says, you know, there's this guy

11:51

named Mark Masters. He runs a company called Talk

11:53

Radio Network, and he may be looking for an in house council,

11:56

so why don't you go talk to him.

11:58

Talk Radio Network was a radio stinnet de

12:00

cater for conservative personalities like Laura

12:02

Ingram and Michael Savage. Ben had

12:04

already been publishing for the better part of

12:06

a decade. He'd written for The Daily

12:08

Bruin as a sixteen year old undergrad at UCLA.

12:11

He secured a nationally syndicated column

12:13

by the age of seventeen, and by two

12:16

thousand and nine he'd already had a few books

12:18

under his belt. He was the Doogie

12:20

Houser of conservative media, so

12:23

radio looked like a good option to him.

12:25

So I talked to Mark and I end up getting

12:27

a job for one third the pay, doing

12:30

some in house council work. I wanted to learn the radio

12:32

industry because I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh

12:34

and La Larry Elder, and so I

12:37

made a deal with the company. And the deal with the company

12:39

that I was working for was I would spend half of my day

12:41

doing legal work because they needed an associate

12:43

in house council, and I would spend half of my day

12:45

doing production work. I wanted to learn inside

12:47

out how the industry works. I would sit there and now cut

12:49

the audio clips like with the actual sound program.

12:52

Probably half the clips that you heard on Michael Savage as

12:54

a law Ingram's show between the years like two

12:56

thousand and nine to twenty

12:58

twelve, I cut those.

13:00

On the side. Then was also contributing

13:02

to Andrew Breitbart's website Big Hollywood.

13:05

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13:07

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Welcome back to red Pilled America. So

14:23

around two thousand and nine, Ben Shapiro

14:25

went to work for radio syndication outfit

14:27

Talk Radio Network. On the side,

14:30

he contributed to Andrew Breitbart's website

14:32

Big Hollywood. Big Hollywood

14:34

was Andrew's shot across the bow of Movie

14:36

City, a place where conservatives could

14:39

trash politically correct celebrities, pontificate

14:41

on films and TV shows, and try

14:43

to build a community for creative types

14:45

on the right. I was a contributor for Big

14:48

Hollywood. Our debut investigation

14:50

was their first big, nationally covered story

14:52

and helped put the site on the map. Like

14:55

with us, Andrew would often funnel contributors

14:57

into the secret Tinseltown Conservative group

15:00

that Shapiro was one of those people. It

15:03

wasn't long before Andrew would connect Jeremy

15:05

with Ben in a roundabout way. Jeremy

15:07

would later explain the connection on the Ben

15:09

Shapiro Sunday Special show.

15:11

Andrew Bribark came to me and said, Hey, I've got this guy

15:13

you should know named Mark Masters. He runs

15:16

at that time, I think the largest private talk radio

15:18

syndication company in the country up in Oregon,

15:20

and he has film aspirations, and

15:22

he said, I think it'd be good if you heard your perspective,

15:24

and so you know, I had a couple meetings with Mark.

15:27

Mark would eventually have his in house legal

15:29

counsel, Ben Shapiro meet with Jeremy.

15:31

Jeremy spent much of their conversation trying

15:34

to convince Ben not to waste his boss's

15:36

money going into the movie business. Jeremy

15:39

says he thought Ben was the smartest

15:41

guy he'd ever met. Ben also

15:43

saw something in Jeremy.

15:45

Well, I saw a talented guy, and I saw that the talent you're

15:47

kind of spinning your wheels, and so it was like I wanted to make

15:49

sure as behind the scenes

15:51

I've quoted many times. For me, a

15:53

key principle is hymen roth,

15:55

I always make money for my friends, and so calling

15:59

the elderly Jewish bankster from The Godfather who ends

16:01

up very poorly.

16:02

The two became fast friends and they

16:04

tried to figure out ways to work together.

16:07

Their dynamic went something like this. Since

16:09

Jeremy had been involved with Hollywood for

16:11

a while trying to be an actor, then screenwriter,

16:14

and director, Jeremy would be the talent,

16:16

Ben, with his law degree in executive

16:18

position now at the Radio Syndicator, would

16:21

run the business side of their endeavors. The

16:27

two worked on a few projects, but nothing

16:30

became a full time gig, so they moved

16:32

on working separately on projects until

16:34

something hit that could bring them together. In

16:37

Ben's case, after shopping around a script

16:39

to a few Hollywood executives, in twenty

16:41

eleven, Ben published Primetime

16:43

Propaganda, a book about how the left

16:46

took over Hollywood, and to launch the

16:48

book, he came up with an interesting approach

16:50

to marketing.

16:51

I know there's truth that it is a more left

16:53

leaning industry, and I know, I

16:56

mean there are people in the industry who

16:59

believe that they are

17:01

not getting work because of their politics.

17:03

Yeah.

17:03

In researching the book, Ben posed as

17:05

a liberal and secured meetings with high level

17:08

Hollywood executives to talk about the industry.

17:10

He recorded their discussions and during their talks,

17:13

the executives made some revealing confessions.

17:16

Very that is something within this town that everybody

17:18

is on the left side of the spectrum and

17:22

a few people on the right side.

17:24

I think people will get from someone a.

17:25

Gas That is one of the criticisms that you

17:27

hear a lot from cultural right wingers

17:29

that you know, Hollywood is too left, there's too much

17:31

sexual content, there's one side of the agenda

17:33

being pushed on a lot of shows. So

17:36

what's your response to the criticism of people at

17:39

the moral majority in these kind of groups when

17:41

they say in televisions to liberal it's

17:43

too progressive and idiots.

17:45

Starting The promotion was

17:48

a huge success, racking up hundreds

17:50

of thousands of views on YouTube thanks

17:52

to posts by Andrew Breitbart on Big

17:54

Hollywood. Ben obviously learned

17:56

that to launch a project successfully he needed

17:59

to create something that the media could weaponize

18:01

against its opponent. In this case,

18:03

conservative media was using it to pommel

18:06

Hollywood. In

18:09

the wake of his book launch, Ben took a radio

18:11

gig as a morning co host on KRLA

18:14

AM in Los Angeles. Then

18:16

tragedy struck.

18:17

Conservative commentator and activist Andrew

18:19

Breitbart died early this morning in

18:21

Los Angeles. According to his website, Breitbart

18:24

died unexpectedly from natural causes

18:26

at UCLA Medical Center.

18:28

The man that brought Jeremy and Ben together

18:31

in essence their mentor was gone.

18:33

After the untimely passing of Andrew Breitbart,

18:36

Ben became editor at large for Breitbart

18:38

News. Ben was rising by

18:40

twenty thirteen, a good three years

18:42

after they'd met. Jeremy came up with a way

18:44

for the two to work together, and it was sparked

18:46

by a CNN appearance.

18:48

My next guest, how strong Word for Me is as

18:50

I'm off the Royals on guns at American Ben Shapiro

18:52

is editor for at large at Bridbard dot com.

18:54

In December twenty twelve, a deranged

18:57

man entered Sandy Hook Elementary School in

18:59

Newtown, Connecticut and killed twenty

19:01

six people, including twenty kids between

19:03

the ages of six and seven. It

19:05

was a horrific event. Almost immediately,

19:08

gun control advocates pushed for a band of

19:10

so called assault rifles like the AR

19:12

fifteen used by the killer. Pierce

19:14

Morgan was one of the journalists calling

19:16

for the ban. Ben scheduled in appearance

19:19

on Pierce Morgan's show, and before he went

19:21

on, he spoke with Jeremy about what he wanted

19:23

to do.

19:24

Jeremy, I remember I talked to him beforehand

19:26

and I told him what I was going to do during the interview, and we had discussed

19:28

and we had strategized, and that kind of stuff up until

19:30

that point. Basically the assumption was I was the business

19:33

guy, and he was going to be the talent because he'd always want

19:35

to be a director, and he came to LA to be

19:37

an actor, and he'd been in writer's rooms and all of that,

19:39

and I was I went to Harvard Law School, I'd been the executive

19:41

vice president of Talk Great In Network, all this kind of stuff.

19:44

In twenty thirteen, I do the interview with

19:46

Piers Morgan on CNN about gun control.

19:47

Why am I off the rails, mister Shapiro.

19:50

You know, honestly, Pierce, you've kind of been a bully

19:52

on this issue because what you do, and I've seen it repeatedly

19:54

on your show. I watch your show, and I've seen it repeatedly.

19:57

What you tend to do is you tend to demonize

19:59

people who differ from you politically by standing

20:01

on the graves of the children of Sandy hook saying they don't

20:03

seem to care enough about the dead kids. If they cared more about

20:06

the dead kids, they would agree with you on policy. I think we

20:08

can have a rational political conversation

20:10

about balancing rights and risks

20:12

and rewards of all of these different policies.

20:14

But I don't think that what we need to do is demonize

20:17

people on the other side as being unfeeling

20:19

about what happened in Santaine.

20:21

You accuse me of standing on the grave of

20:23

the children that died. I've seen you do

20:25

it repeatedly. Peers like I say, how

20:27

dare you well?

20:28

I mean, you can keep saying that, but you've done it repeatedly. What

20:31

you do, and I've seen you do it on the program, is

20:33

you keep saying to folks that if they disagree with you

20:35

politically, then somehow this is a violation

20:38

of what happened in Sandy Hook. And you yet,

20:40

I really like to hear your policy prescriptions

20:43

for what we should do about guns.

20:45

Pierce explain that many of the psychos

20:47

and mass shootings used assault weapons.

20:50

He argued that they should be banned, but every attempt

20:52

had been thwarted by right wingers who use

20:54

the old fashioned argument of government tyranny

20:56

to block so called common sense gun

20:59

control.

21:00

Mentally, the right believes that the basis for

21:02

the Second Amendment is not really about self defense and

21:04

it's not about hunting. It is about resistance to government

21:06

tyranny. That's what the founder said, and that's what the right believes

21:08

in this.

21:08

Coust which Tranney are you fearing this?

21:12

I fear the possibility of a tyranny rising in

21:14

this country in the next fifty to one hundred years. Let me tell you something

21:16

cares. The fact that my grandparents and great

21:18

grandparents in Europe didn't fear. That is why

21:20

they are now ashes in Europe.

21:22

Ben Shapiro critics often claimed that

21:24

he's a lightweight in debates because he

21:26

only faces college students, but

21:31

that assessment completely memory holds.

21:34

How Ben first entered the National Spotlight

21:36

in early twenty thirteen at just twenty

21:39

nine years old, Ben Shapiro absolutely

21:41

eviscerated the nearly fifty year

21:43

old Pierce Morgan, and he did it with

21:45

a premeditated attack.

21:47

I talked to him beforehand, and I told him what I was going

21:49

to do during the interview, and we had discussed him. We had strategized

21:51

the fact that my grandparents and great grandparents

21:53

in Europe didn't fear. That is why they are now ashes

21:56

in Europe. The clip went viral and it goes

21:58

absolutely bizarre on the internet. I mean, it was

22:00

like the biggest thing on the Internet for a solid month.

22:02

The public response gave Jeremy Boring

22:04

an epiphany.

22:05

And after the interview he called me up and he

22:07

said, we have this completely backwards. I'm

22:09

the business guy and you're the talent.

22:11

Jeremy would later reflect on this revelation.

22:13

At that time, I was also realizing something about

22:16

you, which

22:18

was that you needed to be famous, and that

22:20

you needed a platform from which to influence

22:22

the political conversation. And I thought

22:25

that I had discovered it because again

22:27

by way of Andrew Briibart and some of our friends

22:29

of A connections, I'd become pals with

22:31

a lot of the board members at the David Horwitz Freedom

22:34

Center.

22:34

The David Horowitz Freedom Center is a neocon

22:37

pro Israel foundation. Its co

22:39

founder, David Horowitz, is a conservative.

22:41

Like Ben Shapiro, he was a Los Angeles

22:43

writer, Jewish and was interested in the culture,

22:46

but unlike Ben, he was a half century

22:48

older. Jeremy thought that Ben was

22:50

the perfect person to take over the Freedom

22:52

Center's legacy once his co founder retired.

22:55

So, with the help of Andrew Breitbart and some of

22:57

the FA board members, Jeremy started

23:00

planting seeds that Ben could be the

23:02

heir apparent of the Freedom Center's legacy.

23:04

Eventually, David Horowitz adopted the

23:06

idea as his owne. In twenty

23:09

thirteen, Jeremy Boring and Ben Shapiro

23:11

were greenlit to create a project under

23:13

the Freedom Center umbrella. They called

23:15

it Truth Revolt.

23:22

The project was meant to be the answer to media

23:24

Matters, the nonprofit media organization

23:27

dedicated to destroying conservatives.

23:30

Truth Revolt's stated goal was to quote

23:32

unmasked leftists in the media for who

23:34

they are, destroy their credibility with the American

23:36

public, and devastate their funding bases.

23:40

But below the surface, its primary

23:42

mission was to counter an anti Israel

23:44

slant seeping into the mainstream media,

23:47

and it did so by attacking Islam.

23:49

So let's examine the question. Is

23:51

radicalism in the Muslim world a tiny

23:53

minority phenomenon.

23:57

Jeremy produced the videos for Truth Revolt

23:59

with Ben as the on camera talent.

24:01

Palestinian areas. Right, we're sending literally

24:03

hundreds of millions of dollars to the Palestinian

24:05

areas. We are the American taxpayers. Four point

24:08

three million Muslims live in the Palestinian

24:10

areas. Seventy eight percent of those

24:12

had positive or mixed feelings about Bin Laden eighty

24:14

nine percent support terror attacks on our

24:16

ally. Israel eighty nine percent support

24:19

sharia law. We should give them a state,

24:21

folks.

24:21

Ben would argue that over half of the

24:23

Muslims in the world, eight hundred million,

24:25

were radicalized.

24:27

That's not a minority, that's now a majority,

24:29

and that's still not even surveying hundreds

24:31

of millions of Muslims in other countries.

24:34

In other words, the myth of the tiny radical Muslim minority

24:36

is just that it's a myth, and

24:38

unfortunately, it's a myth that's going to get

24:41

a lot of civilized people killed.

24:42

It was clear that the mission of Truth Revolt

24:45

was more than just to attack the left.

24:51

The project drudged along for about two

24:53

years, but they kept running into two problems.

24:56

First funding, Since it was a nonprofit,

24:59

they had to continually come up with reasons

25:01

for donors to donate. And the second

25:03

was web traffic. Up to twenty

25:05

fifteen, most conservative media outlets

25:08

had a single business model for driving traffic

25:10

to their sites. They'd hope for a link

25:12

on the Drudge Report. The notoriously

25:15

recluse online publisher Matt Drudge

25:17

controlled the most traffic conservative outlet

25:19

in America. One link to your story

25:21

from the Drudge Report could drive so much

25:23

traffic to your site that it could crash your

25:25

servers. That was the power of a

25:27

Drudge link. Andrew Breitbart used

25:30

to be an editor on the site, and so he'd

25:32

frequently send traffic to new media journalists

25:34

within his camp. But with Andrew now

25:36

gone, the conservative media business model

25:39

was on shaky ground. Jeremy was

25:41

looking for a solution, and he thought he'd come up

25:43

with one. Facebook was a largely untapped

25:46

site for conservative advertising. He

25:48

believed that if he could get the Freedom

25:50

Center to agree to fund some advertising,

25:52

he could turn that advertising into traffic

25:55

and ultimately revenue. So in twenty

25:57

fifteen, Jeremy brought Ben in to pitch

25:59

the idea to the board of the David Horowitz

26:01

Freedom Center.

26:04

Jeremy explains the deal. They do not understand

26:06

it at all. They turned to me. We're doing this for like an hour

26:08

and a half. The board turns to me and they're like, can

26:10

you explain this? And like more simply,

26:13

I try to boil it down. At this point, I was really

26:15

frustrated, pissed, and I take out a napkin

26:18

and a pen. I say, here's our business. Plan dollar

26:20

sign, arrow, Facebook,

26:23

arrow website, arrow back to dollar

26:25

sign. This is our business plan. I literally did

26:27

that on a napkin. I turned it around. We're going to

26:29

spend money on Facebook. Facebook is going to generate traffic

26:31

for our website. We're going to monetize that through advertising

26:34

and subscriptions.

26:35

Back to Facebook.

26:36

That's how we're going to generate our business. They fired Jeremy

26:38

the next day, and in solidarity,

26:40

they wanted to keep me on a sort of like a face

26:42

for the website, and I quit. I was

26:45

like, you can't fire my friend, my business partner, and

26:47

I'm not going to stick around for that. So now we're both jobless.

26:49

The two were in a bind. They'd both

26:51

recently taken on new mortgages and

26:54

now they were jobless. Ben and Jeremy

26:56

had to find a way out, and they had

26:58

to find it quickly.

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28:05

Welcome back to Red Pilled America. So

28:08

after making a funding pitch to the board of

28:10

the David Horowitz Freedom Center, Jeremy

28:12

Boring was fired in solidarity.

28:15

Then Shapiro quit the Truth Revolt. Now

28:17

the two were in a bind. They'd

28:19

recently both signed new mortgages

28:22

and now they were jobless. They

28:24

could have separated and tried to find jobs,

28:27

but they felt like they were onto something.

28:29

They obviously knew how to run a website

28:31

together. They'd managed Truth Revolt and

28:34

for the three years prior then was an editor

28:36

at Breitbart News.

28:39

Ben also knew how to draw attention, and

28:42

they had this idea to monetize traffic

28:44

to their site via Facebook. They'd funnel

28:46

funds into Facebook ads, which would drive

28:48

traffic to their site. They'd then use the

28:50

traffic to sell ads and subscriptions

28:52

to their site. Then they could again funnel

28:55

some of that revenue into buying more ads on

28:57

Facebook, and they could continue that cycle

28:59

over and over again. But the only

29:01

problem was that they didn't have the money

29:04

to start the cycle. What to do

29:06

well, the two decided to try and

29:08

find an investor. It just so

29:11

happened that Jeremy was talking to a

29:13

guy named Caleb Robinson. Caleb

29:15

was looking to get his client into the film business,

29:18

and he turned to Jeremy for some advice. Like

29:21

earlier with Ben's radio syndication employer,

29:23

Jeremy tried to convince Caleb to

29:25

save his client's money by avoiding the

29:27

movie industry. In the process

29:30

of their discussion, Caleb and Jeremy hit

29:32

it off. So when he'd gotten fired

29:34

from the Freedom Center, Jeremy thought Caleb

29:36

would be the perfect person to talk to because,

29:39

you see, there was something about Caleb's clients

29:41

that worked well for Jeremy and Ben's project.

29:44

The family office that Caleb was working

29:46

with was the Wilkes Brothers. That

29:49

name might ring a bell. The Wilkes

29:51

brothers were the fracking billionaires that helped

29:54

fund Prager You as well as Ted

29:56

Cruise's twenty sixteen presidential

29:58

bid. And what what are these Wilkes brothers

30:01

about. The

30:07

Wilkes brothers founded their own church

30:09

in nineteen eighty two called the

30:11

Assembly of Yahweh, which is kind of a hybrid

30:14

between Judaism and Christianity. Essentially,

30:17

the Assembly of Yahweh teaches that

30:19

the true religion is Jewish, not

30:21

Gentile, and it has a strong adherence

30:23

to Jewish laws and customs found in the

30:25

Torah. For example, they observe

30:27

a Jewish type of Sabbath from Friday sunset

30:29

to Saturday sundown. They have similar

30:31

dietary laws as Judaism, such as Kosher

30:34

practices, and instead of celebrating

30:36

New Testament holidays, they observe the

30:38

more Jewish ones like Passover and yan

30:41

Kapor. For all intents and purposes,

30:43

they are as close to Judaism as Christians

30:45

can get. So, the Wilkes brothers

30:48

were the perfect billionaires to receive

30:50

their pitch. Jeremy turned

30:52

to Caleb and pitched him the same concept

30:55

that had just gotten him fired. According

30:57

to Jeremy, Caleb loved the idea,

31:00

so Ben, Jeremy and Caleb created

31:03

a three way partnership, drew up a business

31:05

plan, and took it to Caleb's high

31:07

net worth clients, the Wilkes.

31:09

Brothers, And

31:16

we're talking with this family and this

31:18

guy at the end of the table turns to me after I've been going

31:20

for a while and

31:22

he says to me, we get a lot of pitches

31:25

on media companies just like this one. What

31:27

makes you think you're so special?

31:29

Again?

31:29

I got kind of pested, and I was like, I'm

31:31

better at this than anyone on the Blanet. I'm better at

31:33

this than anyone everyone who's pitched you is worse at

31:36

this than I am. And for

31:38

a second there was like dead silence in the room, and

31:40

then everybody started laughing, and they

31:42

put the money into the company.

31:43

The family office would eventually invest

31:46

roughly five million dollars. The Daily

31:48

Wire was born. Among its

31:50

owners were Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro,

31:53

Caleb Robinson, and the Wilkes Brothers.

31:56

Jeremy Boring has made claims about

31:58

the religious slant of The Daily Wire.

32:00

The Wilkes Brothers aren't Jewish. Daily Wire

32:02

isn't owned by Jews. Ben doesn't run the

32:04

Daily Wire, is not the majority owner of the Daily

32:06

Wire. The Daily Wire is majority owned

32:08

and run by Christians, which is true,

32:11

but it's.

32:11

Not the entire story because the

32:13

men at the head of the Daily Wire have very

32:15

strong beliefs about Israel, which

32:18

no doubt would impact their future

32:20

decisions. Now with the backing

32:22

of billionaires, the Daily Wire team

32:24

began working on their new startup, and

32:26

like any startup, they had to come up with

32:28

the plan to get some attention through

32:31

publishing his primetime propaganda

32:33

book. Ben learned that to launch a project

32:35

successfully he needed to create

32:37

something that the media could weaponize against

32:40

its opponent. So the Daily

32:42

Wire began searching for the right opportunity.

32:45

They would eventually land on throwing their mentor

32:48

under the bus. And the story behind

32:50

that maneuver should have been a red

32:52

flag to Candice Owans.

32:55

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