We explore the critical transition from tokenism to genuine inclusion within The United Methodist Church. Join us as Derrick Scott III, a seasoned campus minister from the Florida Conference, and Rev. Rodrigo Cruz, the dynamic founding pastor of NETT Church in the Atlanta area and newly appointed assistant to the bishop in the North Georgia Conference share their profound insights and experiences. We delve into how the UMC can better reflect the diversity of God's kingdom and discuss the necessary steps to move beyond superficial diversity measures to foster true inclusivity. This episode is a must-listen for anyone committed to spiritual growth and organizational change within the church. Join us as we unpack these challenging but necessary conversations to ensure that our faith community not only survives but thrives by embracing every individual's unique contributions.