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Ep. #657: RFK Jr., Scott Galloway, Don Lemon

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Ep. #657: RFK Jr., Scott Galloway, Don Lemon

Ep. #657: RFK Jr., Scott Galloway, Don Lemon

Ep. #657: RFK Jr., Scott Galloway, Don Lemon

Ep. #657: RFK Jr., Scott Galloway, Don Lemon

Saturday, 27th April 2024
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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the

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HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with

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Bill Maher. Hello,

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everybody! Thank you,

1:40

I appreciate that. How

1:42

you doing? Nice

1:44

to see everyone here.

1:47

Hello there, man. Thank

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you very much.

1:53

Thank you, real

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timers. Thank you,

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I appreciate it. Oh,

2:00

so thank you

2:03

very much. I appreciate that very

2:05

much. Wow,

2:08

what a great move you're in. I

2:10

know. It's a holiday time of year.

2:13

We had 4.20 last week. And

2:16

now it's Passover, which no

2:18

one's celebrating. Could

2:25

be a rough night. No. No,

2:28

you know Passover. It celebrates the exodus of the

2:30

Jews in biblical times from Egypt. And

2:33

nowadays it celebrates the exodus of the

2:35

Jews from Columbia University. When

2:45

did Columbia become Kanye State? Have you

2:47

seen what's going on across the

2:50

country? The kids have really

2:52

found their cause, which

2:54

is getting all the Jews out of the river to

2:56

the sea. That is to be... That

3:00

is their cause. I'm not even making

3:02

a joke yet. That's what they're saying. But campuses

3:04

across the country are in chaos. The kids have

3:06

put up all these tent encampments

3:08

on the quads, and

3:10

they won't come out of their tents. The

3:13

authorities don't know what to do. They don't know how to get them

3:15

out of their tents. I know

3:17

how. Where do their phones die? They'll come out. Um...

3:26

But, uh... Kids, little tip. Keep those

3:28

tents. You're going to need them when you

3:30

graduate. And

3:38

people, have you seen this? People are always saying this is

3:40

very much like the sixties. Anybody remember the sixties? It's not

3:42

like the sixties. The hippies fucked in the tents.

3:48

These kids are like fucking ew. So

3:53

heteronormative. But

3:56

now, Columbia even banned a Jewish professor.

4:00

who was apparently just saying there should be

4:02

a two-state solution, which is not good enough for

4:04

these radicals. And

4:07

the Palestinian students on campus said,

4:09

with the Jewish professor there at

4:12

the school, they felt unsafe. Unsafe.

4:15

And I completely relate to this. Last time I was

4:17

in New York, I was mugged by a gang of

4:19

professors. And

4:29

I told the police, they said, there's something we can do, they

4:31

have tenure. Really?

4:38

So, also going

4:40

on in New York City, following the Trump trial? Oh my.

4:45

Well, boy, this is a shocker this week. Turns

4:49

out, the National Enquirer... Do

4:51

you read the National Enquirer? Oh, you do. Oh,

4:54

fuck. Well,

4:56

turns out, it's a burst of bubbles.

5:00

Somewhat less than a reputable news source.

5:03

Wow, it's like finding the Magic 8-ball doesn't

5:06

predict the future. It's really... It's

5:11

starting to make me question everything I see

5:13

at the checkout counter. You

5:16

mean the three guys on the candy bar are not

5:18

actually musketeers? That's

5:29

a lot going on. Just

5:31

in the last 24 hours, he was indicted

5:33

as a co-conspirator in the fake election

5:35

scheme in Michigan, and then as an unindicted

5:40

co-conspirator, number one, in the fake election

5:42

scheme in Arizona. The

5:44

Supreme Court is hearing oral arguments on his

5:46

ridiculous claim that he has total immunity as

5:49

president, and then of course, there's the trial

5:51

going on in New York. Who

5:54

knew that breaking so many laws is what you needed

5:56

to make America great again? NBC

6:06

is a new show coming out of the post called Law

6:09

and Order Him Again. I

6:18

just want to surprise you on this story. It's not the biggest story

6:20

of the week. It's just, it's my cause.

6:22

So maybe it's not that fucking funny. I don't care.

6:25

This is what I'm pissed off about. The

6:27

governor of North Dakota, why there is even

6:29

two Dakotas, don't get me started on that.

6:33

Or one. But Kristi Noem. Okay, so

6:35

she has a new book out. She's

6:37

highly considered to be the vice presidential

6:39

candidate with Trump. Okay, she's

6:42

bragging that she shot and killed

6:44

her 14-month-old dog. Because

6:46

the dog was, according to her,

6:48

untrainable and worthless as a hunter.

6:53

More move, Marjorie Taylor Greene. I

6:56

just want to say

6:58

this. Say

7:03

this to the people who

7:05

say the parties are exactly the same. Well,

7:08

you know what? Joe Biden had

7:10

a bitey dog, but he

7:12

didn't take him in the Rose Garden and blow his fucking

7:14

brains out. In

7:23

further animal news, bird flu is now

7:25

in the milk. How

7:28

it got in the milk is none of my business. But

7:32

if a crow fucked a cow, that bird

7:34

has some serious gain. Okay, we've got a

7:36

great show. Don

7:39

Lemon. Bob Wellaway are here, but first

7:41

up, he has an environmental lawyer and

7:43

the independent candidate in the 2024 President's

7:45

election, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Did

8:05

you stack this order? I

8:08

wish this election we could hold in

8:10

here. Well, I'm telling you. So

8:12

let me ask the question first that your uncle had

8:14

to answer in 1980, and he kind of blew

8:17

it, when Mike Wallace asked him,

8:19

why do you want to be president? Why are you running?

8:26

My attitude, I was not waiting

8:28

around, and you've known me for a long

8:30

time. I'm going to run for president at

8:32

some point. And my attitude

8:35

evolved as I watched

8:37

our country depart from

8:39

the place that I thought

8:42

it was supposed to be,

8:45

and my political party too. But

8:49

I would say today, people

8:51

who look at President Trump and President Biden see

8:54

two very, very different people. Their dispositions are

8:56

different. Their ideologies are different. Their

9:01

approach to life, to other people,

9:03

to politics is all completely different.

9:07

The actual issues that they're talking

9:09

about, they differ with each other,

9:11

is actually a really

9:14

narrow Overton window. It's mainly

9:16

cultural issues. It's abortion.

9:19

It's guns. It's the

9:21

border. It's transgender. And

9:24

it's not democracy also? I mean,

9:27

I've heard you—let me quote you.

9:30

You say, I can make the argument

9:32

that President Biden is the much worse

9:34

threat to democracy. You've also said the

9:37

greatest threat to democracy is not somebody who

9:39

questions election returns. But Trump did much more

9:41

than just question election returns. Did he not?

9:44

Is he not responsible for actually scheming

9:46

to overturn that election? And isn't

9:48

that a fundamental difference? Yeah, but

9:51

are you going to try to put me in a position

9:53

to defend Donald Trump? No, I'm just

9:55

trying to say—I'm saying—no, what I'm trying to do is— Trying

10:01

to help you runs over as. Far

10:07

as. A or

10:09

I was on a liberal. no sign

10:11

of see and and what I mean

10:13

say. I

10:16

think it's important that people interested and

10:19

at and I said I could make

10:21

the argument that he and his it

10:23

is you know. It

10:26

to me. See. And

10:28

I think the framers our constitutional

10:30

is is to at worst thing

10:32

that you can do as democracy

10:34

instant censor speech And that's why

10:36

they put apples and Adams and

10:38

Madison said we put freedom of

10:40

expression a guarantee of freedom of

10:42

expression. And The First Amendment.

10:45

All the other members of the

10:47

Us rights to Peloton. If you

10:50

have of and like a silence

10:52

critics it has license, atrocity and

10:54

all the rights or a empire.

10:57

She's. An. Accountant

11:00

or a Price

11:02

or crowds and

11:04

sensor us I

11:06

ever out on.

11:12

Us Court of Appeals. Process.

11:16

Ring this systematically many,

11:18

many times because. Thirty

11:21

seven hours after Artists Out.

11:24

A. Lot of people say well. He.

11:27

Was just censoring you on

11:29

public criticism and on any.

11:31

He's that nice guy. So

11:34

even as he uses censorship

11:36

is not a threat. Of

11:44

once you see. A

11:46

rush hour powers like that

11:48

government? it will never. Give.

11:50

It back and it will always

11:53

ultimately. abuse is max make me

11:55

and Oz was no. You know

11:57

today's are letting pharmaceutical companies. Doctors

12:00

and scientists who have

12:03

her. Actions

12:05

aren't. I around

12:07

launched after. A

12:13

while com or sexual acts

12:15

as. A

12:17

com Companies chemical company is

12:20

processed food industry. everybody else.

12:22

Is. To the head of mine once we

12:25

get a. We you know,

12:27

we've let a genie out the

12:29

bottle and happened during the Bush

12:31

Administration like no other. is really

12:33

literally the White House. Was.

12:36

Emailing social media site:

12:38

Twitter, Facebook, Instagram delete

12:40

them to remove people

12:42

like me. And the

12:44

weight on there was no misinformation of

12:47

the government was unable to point to

12:49

a single post or I ever made.

12:51

It was actually a know I'm you

12:53

know I'm very sympathetic to on the

12:55

I mean I've been making very similar

12:58

cases here. Not. As far as

13:00

you go, this is where. but we we do.

13:02

we do. For a company it's on board I

13:04

think. As you have made the case

13:06

better than anybody. We are being poisoned in this

13:08

country and then you always had the issue of

13:10

our time. Your environmental lawyer for most of your

13:13

life. And I

13:15

do think when it comes to medical

13:17

issues. With. The people of

13:19

the science there is no the in

13:21

science will debate and they did thank

13:23

you one person. And

13:30

a fetal form of those science were

13:32

wearing masks outside. And their twenty two?

13:34

okay, you know, so little. Not all

13:36

the science either. But then you

13:39

do say things like no vaccine is

13:41

safe and effective and I don't agree

13:43

with that. Do are Well I

13:45

would say to pulverize all vaccines have side

13:47

of second I like every a medical intervention

13:49

does. I should recognize that and not squelch

13:52

it because it would make people afraid to

13:54

take it's that's different than you said that.

13:56

No vaccine is safe and effective. Can I

13:58

guess ways apes. Hi my name

14:00

on lox rate than podcast years and

14:03

it was in the answer a question

14:05

that lacks that are as me about

14:07

are there any acts is if you

14:10

go back and look at discuss as

14:12

a as years. I

14:14

would never say that. What

14:16

I said was he asked me or other

14:19

any relatives that are safe effective is as.

14:22

It appears isomers of plus I

14:24

respect. Your

14:26

offseason effect. And

14:29

then I said there's no vaccines are

14:31

safe and effective. I was gonna continues

14:33

as if what if you ask for

14:36

it for the product. Other

14:39

medical products seems comes on

14:41

double blind study. He

14:44

likes interrupted me before it doesn't hurt

14:46

others, the whole region or it so,

14:48

but your vice presidential pick wants to

14:50

recall them during a backseat. That's the

14:53

one I got. Work.

14:59

Do you agree with that? Recall it. I.

15:02

Think. The. But

15:04

they you know they are. I

15:06

make those vaccines need to. We

15:08

need to have an true of

15:10

once in a controlled trials on

15:12

answers. Twenty five percent of Americans.

15:16

Who believe that they know somebody

15:18

who was killed by a cup

15:20

of actually killed killed Twenty Five

15:23

percent of Americans? Sixty Two percent

15:25

of Americans. Facts are cause. Injuries

15:29

including to ask you to protect.

15:32

Our. Size

15:38

bags. And

15:44

was if they were twenty two thousand

15:46

people in the placebo group. Twenty thousand.

15:49

People. Who got the actual facts? And

15:52

leave a People Magazine as

15:55

twenty three percent higher tax

15:57

rate. From all

15:59

causes. At. The end In as not

16:01

it, I could not be the disease itself. Out

16:05

loud because we know that if it is

16:07

an accident as it worked about while the

16:09

it's his early. No

16:12

no, it's. Not

16:16

true at all. and I'm someone who did not

16:18

want a vaccine and didn't think I should be

16:20

made to get it. But it does work I

16:22

guess it all right way to wait a minute

16:24

wait. I'm at work in the sense that if

16:26

you are many people who would have died because

16:28

they were not in good health it killed mostly

16:30

be obese and the at the very elderly okay

16:33

those shows how long time but they are those

16:35

people are alive Today I sing because of the

16:37

vaccine. I. Also.

16:44

Is it also have complications? Yes, I mean anecdotally.

16:46

Ah, I've not heard about one at a for

16:48

people dying but I know a lot of people

16:51

have as issue as he as I was a

16:53

could have had worse issues if they got the

16:55

disease that's using medicine as old as. Isis

16:59

and Source most wanted a case by

17:01

case basis that sort of. I agree

17:04

with that. do I believe of people

17:06

acts anger at the American? I'm not

17:08

anti vaccine when eyes as at completely

17:11

since you are y no but that's

17:13

because on all that way of silence

17:15

I made but I'm sad for of

17:18

and seniors are not any facts and

17:20

I just want going science I want

17:22

people should be on to make informed

17:24

choices. I am against exit Matt Day

17:27

What works. And.

17:30

Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa. Whoa.

17:33

Whoa. Why is your own family a

17:35

means for those of us and you

17:37

know me a long time? I by

17:39

Georgia, Irish, American, my father, biggest Kennedy,

17:41

my mother the the mean we were

17:43

huge Kennedy's and still are in the

17:45

family. I mean they're gone now but

17:47

my sister. So when we see the

17:49

Kennedys fighting amongst each other, when we

17:51

see. When. I saw your

17:53

family coming out against you so

17:55

much less week. Is

17:57

it breaks my heart? I mean, What?

18:00

What? Why? Can't

18:02

you? Get them on my side and

18:04

throw them. Out

18:08

I were. Members.

18:15

Of I have family members in his audience and

18:17

I gates' idea of era. Of.

18:25

All higher. I have family

18:27

members running my campaign. I have

18:29

family members running certain states or

18:31

I get a Bell south. I

18:37

also saw my family that works.

18:41

As a longtime friend or family

18:43

us my father behind with the

18:45

Oval office and a friend of

18:47

mine so I understand the display

18:50

it's members my family of at

18:52

me running but also through I

18:54

come from a family where we

18:56

were taught to argue with each

18:58

other and a baby each other.

19:01

My father worked at it's base

19:03

almost every night at the dinner

19:05

table. And are just

19:07

as and. With.

19:10

Reason or also to love each other.

19:12

Even when we disagree with each other

19:15

and I love my family, I feel

19:17

loved by them. They're entitled to their

19:19

opinion. They. Disagree with me

19:21

as they disagree with me on the censorship

19:24

issue. Disagree with me

19:26

on the Ukraine. They disagree with me

19:28

on a lot of other issues and

19:30

I respect them and I love them

19:32

and I wish we could censor him

19:34

as country where we go into is.

19:39

He. Overseas.

19:45

He first came out your brewing nineteen

19:47

percent. That's. Drop was when I

19:49

saw was eleven and than one below that.

19:51

I mean what is the pants or mean

19:54

Other than that you're just a spoiler. Know.

19:56

you begged ralph nader as i did

19:58

once with michael moore Not

20:00

to run for president when he was running against George

20:03

Bush when that election.

20:06

What's different about this? I mean, if there

20:09

is a path to victory, let me know

20:11

what it is. So

20:13

right now I'm beating both President Trump and

20:15

President Biden among young people of all Americans

20:18

under 35. But

20:20

they don't vote? Well, they may this

20:22

time. And they're telling us they're going to vote.

20:25

I'm beating them in the battleground states

20:27

under Americans under 45. I'm

20:30

beating President Trump and President Biden among

20:32

the independents, which is the largest political

20:34

party now, of this first

20:36

presidential election in history, where

20:40

independents will be the biggest self-identified independents

20:42

and the biggest demographic. It's 43% of

20:44

the American electorate. You're

20:47

only on the ballot in three states. Me?

20:49

Yeah, aren't you? Yeah, but that's a different

20:51

question. Well, that's a path. You've got

20:53

to be honest. You've got to be on the ballot, too. I'm

20:56

going to be honest. I'm

20:58

going to be honest. You're

21:01

going to be on the ballot all this time? I can guarantee you

21:03

I will be on the ballot in every state. Really? Very,

21:05

very quickly. So,

21:07

yeah, I'll be on the ballot. But

21:10

also, every bullet that's been done,

21:12

and my

21:14

popularity, my favorability rating is way ahead

21:16

of both President Trump and President Biden.

21:19

In fact, higher than any other political

21:21

figure in this country, every

21:25

poll that's been done shows that

21:27

in a head-to-head race, in other words, if

21:30

it's me against President Trump, I beat

21:32

President Trump. If it's Biden

21:34

against President Trump, he loses. Well, we don't know

21:36

any of that. I mean, we don't know it.

21:39

They're all very close. And I've seen polls where

21:41

your favorability rating is below both of them. Yeah,

21:44

but what I'm saying is every poll

21:46

that's been done that puts us in

21:48

head-to-head races has me beating both President

21:50

Trump and President Biden. People

21:53

are, 80% of the public does not

21:55

want to see a contest between President

21:57

Trump and President Biden. That's an alternative.

22:01

The issue is why are they voting for

22:03

them? They're voting for them. And here's my

22:05

experience. And you tell me if you're different.

22:08

There's a lot of times people, liberals,

22:10

I know, or friends, say

22:13

to me, you need to get out of the

22:15

race to let Biden run because otherwise President Trump

22:17

is going to win. And they never say to

22:19

me, let

22:21

Biden run because he has the cognitive

22:24

capacity and the vigor and the

22:26

energy and the vision for a

22:28

future that's going to really change

22:30

things, to change these existential issues

22:32

that we're facing. The

22:35

destruction of the American middle class, the

22:37

inflation of the budget

22:40

deficit, $34 trillion. We're

22:42

now paying more for

22:44

the service on that debt than for our

22:46

military. And then all of the chronic disease

22:48

epidemic that's disabling our kids. Nobody is saying that

22:51

either of these candidates are going to be

22:53

able to also speak. No, listen, I've got

22:55

to go to the panel. But I have

22:57

to say, these issues should be

22:59

raised. I hope you're in the debate. Robert

23:01

Kennedy. Thank

23:04

you. All

23:06

right, let's get our panel. Hey,

23:14

guys. The

23:19

U.J. Professor of Marketing at NYU Stern School

23:21

of Business and the author of the new

23:23

book, The Algebra of Wealth, the Simple Formula

23:25

for Financial Security, Scott Galloway. And

23:29

the first founder for us, he's an award-winning

23:32

journalist, founder of the Lemon Media Network, and

23:34

host of the Don Lemon Show streaming on

23:36

YouTube and Spotify. Don Lemon's with us. Okay,

23:41

gentlemen. So, you're a professor,

23:43

right? That's supposedly, yeah.

23:47

What's going on on your campus? Isn't it interesting?

23:50

Because I've got to tell you, when I'm listening

23:52

to these people on TV talking about how it's

23:54

the 60s all over again with the campus radicals

23:56

and all the demonstrations,

23:58

let me just throw that out as a... first question. Is

24:02

this like the 60s when they were

24:05

demonstrating against the war in Vietnam?

24:07

What's alike and what's different? Compare

24:09

and contrast. I

24:11

wasn't there in the 60s. I wasn't

24:13

either, but I could read. But yes,

24:15

I agree. I live

24:17

near NYU and I got to watch a lot of it

24:19

play out and I went to talk to

24:22

the students. Listen, it's the same in that it's

24:24

a protest, but it's different in

24:27

that this is about horrible, horrible anti-Semitism

24:29

and racism. A lot of it, some of

24:31

it is, I should say. But when you

24:33

talk to the kids for the most part, for the

24:35

most part, not all of them, these are kids that are

24:37

out there and they're peaceful. A lot

24:39

of them don't have the information needed because

24:41

they're getting their news from TikTok and from

24:43

the media. And they don't have the history

24:45

of what's going on. But I think that

24:48

Scott and I agree. We

24:50

talked about this. I think kids on college

24:52

campuses should be given a wide berth to

24:54

sort of express themselves and to do dumb

24:56

things. But when it crosses over into violence

24:58

and anti-Semitism, that's

25:02

not

25:04

right.

25:06

Yeah,

25:09

the double standard here is pretty striking.

25:11

Dylan Roof goes into a Charleston church

25:13

and kills nine members of a

25:15

black church. If I went down

25:17

to the plaza of any of these universities with

25:19

a white hood, a Confederate flag, and

25:22

signs and started saying, globalize

25:25

Dylan, kill black people, there'd

25:28

be no need for context. We wouldn't be talking

25:30

about free speech. I'd be out of academia. And

25:32

if I whipped up students into

25:35

a frenzy such that we started harassing

25:37

non-white students on the way to

25:39

the library and I started getting in their

25:41

face or even throwing things at them and that has

25:43

happened, we wouldn't be

25:45

having a conversation about the First Amendment. We call

25:48

in the fucking National Guard. when

26:01

it's hate speech against Jews. Well,

26:06

I mean, there's, uh, I'll quote some

26:08

professors. And these are professors. Where

26:12

did the kids get it from? At

26:15

Columbia, Joseph Massad praised the awesome scenes on

26:18

October 7th, and he says, this

26:23

is another Columbia professor, Hamid

26:25

Dabashi, every

26:27

dirty, treacherous, ugly, and permicious act happening

26:30

in the world could

26:32

be traced to the ugly name of Israel. That

26:34

is just a level of rhetoric that

26:37

I don't, you're right, I just have never heard

26:39

anywhere else. And I, you

26:41

know, they say it's great to live in

26:43

interesting times, a little too interesting these times,

26:46

that I would live to see this day

26:48

where Jewish students at Columbia, it's

26:51

still in Morningside Heights, right, Columbia? Are

26:54

told to stay home? But

26:56

some of the kids out there, a lot of them are Jewish kids.

26:58

Yeah, a lot of them are Jewish kids.

27:00

That's really sad. There's an age gap.

27:04

I mean, when I talk to them about it,

27:06

there's an age gap. Young people believe a

27:08

certain way, a certain thing about what's happening

27:10

in the war in Gaza and towards Israel.

27:13

I don't know what the disconnect is. It

27:15

would be interesting for older people,

27:18

especially older Jews and younger Jews, to sit down

27:20

and figure it out, but it's very interesting to

27:22

me, this age gap that's going on. Well, the Harvard

27:24

is teaching a course I read in the Times this

27:26

week in Taylor Swift. I think that's a lot of

27:28

the problem, is it? It's an

27:31

actual course. Well,

27:36

did you see that in the budget? It's

27:38

a billion dollar business. I

27:41

think you've got to cut a 19-year-old to pretty wide

27:43

berth. The point of being 19 is you act stupid

27:45

and you learn and you move on. I'm glad the

27:47

camera isn't following me around, or wasn't when I was

27:49

19. The faculty, if

27:52

we made the mistake of hiring you and you want

27:54

to support Islamic Jihad

27:57

or the Islamic Republic, then you know what, we

27:59

made a mistake. mistake, and we should rectify that

28:02

mistake, that we sign, we pay these people. And

28:05

if they are not taking the temperature down

28:07

and they lack the critical thinking that

28:09

they can't criticize a murderous

28:11

autocracy, pretty simple. They should be

28:13

fired. The

28:23

kids don't seem to know exactly what

28:26

they're protesting for. This went viral. This

28:28

woman at Columbia. I think

28:30

the goal is showing our support for

28:33

Palestine and demanding that NYU stops. I

28:36

actually don't know all of what NYU is doing. I

28:41

hate them. And I'll figure out

28:43

why later. It's awful,

28:46

obviously. Obviously, it's awful what happened on

28:48

October 7th. But, I mean, some

28:51

of this has been going on forever. And I

28:53

think that the young people are just becoming aware

28:55

of it because of October 7th, and they don't

28:57

know the history of it. And they're getting it,

29:00

as I said, off of social media. And perhaps

29:02

they should be teaching, as you said, classes

29:05

on this rather than on Taylor's

29:07

list. But in the big statement

29:09

here, the

29:11

SJP chapters across the

29:14

country erupted in a

29:16

fierce display of power targeting the universities

29:18

for their endless publicity and profiteering off

29:22

the genocide in Gaza and

29:24

colonization of Palestine. Who's

29:26

profiteering? I mean, whenever

29:29

there's a war, people do make money.

29:31

That's true. Somebody is going to buy

29:33

bombs and planes and guns.

29:36

But I don't know if this was a plot.

29:39

The species needs two things to survive. One, we

29:41

need to enjoy sex. And two... I

29:43

agree with that. There's

29:45

a left turn in the discussion, I

29:48

don't know. If

29:54

you want to stop talking about this, just say so. That

29:56

was a little weird,

29:59

man. The

30:01

second thing is you have to get joy from

30:03

rallying together to fight off a perceived threat. And

30:06

I think part of the problem is young people aren't having enough sex

30:08

and so they go on the hunt for fake threats. And

30:11

the most popular threat throughout history, type

30:13

into Google anti-Semitism and pick your century

30:16

and you're going to find it. A

30:19

Jewish girl on her way to get a manicure is not

30:21

your mortal enemy. Stop it for God's sake. But

30:25

to your point before, it has become, it's become

30:27

the case to do it, the fads. Some of

30:29

the kids are out there and they don't know

30:31

what they're protesting about. It's become a fad and

30:33

the thing to do is to protest. Maybe this is

30:36

cynical, but does this have anything to do with finals

30:38

coming up? It

30:41

does seem like, I don't know. But

30:46

I mean, it

30:49

does seem like right around this time

30:51

is when the campuses always erupt in

30:53

some cause. And

30:57

I'm not saying it's not sincere, but the

30:59

timing is suspicious. Well,

31:02

we'd love to study and take the finals,

31:04

but we just have to stop everything for,

31:06

what is it? The

31:10

next fad. I just look towards my

31:12

evening. It's

31:14

just anything. Listen,

31:17

I'm not minimizing what's going on, but it

31:19

teaches some of these students to deal with

31:21

discomfort. Yeah, that's good. It does.

31:24

You mean the tent living in

31:26

the tent? Well, living in the tent and

31:28

also, listen, I'm different than you guys. I'm

31:31

a black gay man, so I live in uncomfortable

31:33

spaces all the time. And I think that is

31:35

a good lesson for college students. Again, I'm not

31:37

saying it's a good lesson. What's going on? What

31:39

do you mean, what's going on? Well, you're so

31:41

uncomfortable spaces. Well, it's uncomfortable. Everything, college

31:44

is not a comfortable place. You learn, you grow. No, but

31:46

you say you live in these spaces. Yeah, I live in

31:48

these spaces. Well, I mean, just tell me what. Well, I'm

31:50

often the only person of color in the room, especially in

31:52

the fourth place. There's only three of us here. Come on,

31:54

there. Come on, there. It's

32:04

easy to poke fun at these kids,

32:06

but history has a way of repeating

32:08

itself. And this is how it starts.

32:11

In 30s Germany, a progressive community,

32:13

a thriving gay community, excellent academic

32:16

institutions, and how it started was

32:19

fashionable to wear a brown shirt and mock students

32:22

at the University of Vienna. This is how it stops.

32:24

And quite frankly, I'm really disappointed more

32:26

Jews aren't speaking out. But

32:30

let's turn to

32:33

your subject now,

32:35

sex. With

32:40

all the depressing things that have been going on in the

32:42

world, I say there was one thing I thought I could

32:45

rely on, which is the Golden Bachelor. What

32:47

a love story, huh? Why

32:50

don't you enter it? I

32:52

mean, I

32:55

so related to him and his

32:57

age-appropriate relationship. One thing

32:59

I've always been forward to that. You actually believe, Bill,

33:01

that you don't believe you can go on a show

33:03

and meet someone for a couple of weeks and fall

33:05

in love and live together for the rest of your

33:08

life? I could, not that guy. But

33:16

I was leaving through the trades only

33:19

like three weeks ago when I saw this ad

33:21

and it says, you know, believe in love again,

33:23

it's impossible not to be moved. And

33:27

then, of course, it was only a couple weeks later

33:29

when the whole thing fell apart. I thought it would

33:31

be a very good time to do one of our

33:33

favorite categories here on the show, which is books

33:36

that didn't age. So,

33:42

for the love of the Golden,

33:44

also simple, there's Travis Kelsey's

33:46

Bros Before Hoes. Morgan

33:55

Marlin's decluttering for dummies. If you don't love

33:57

it, toss it. O.J.

34:03

Simpson, if I'm lying, I'm dying. Lauren

34:13

Boebert, how about a hand? My God. You're

34:17

an Australian.

34:23

Sam Beckman Freeds, free at last. My

34:26

German definition does

34:29

not age well. Tiger

34:33

Woods, tips to keep you from driving into

34:35

the trees. Shohei

34:42

Otani's not without my trench letter. A

34:45

friendship for the ages does not age

34:47

well. And,

34:51

of course, he did his untouchable.

34:53

A rapper's guide to staying one

34:56

step ahead of the rest.

35:06

There is one book I could think of that will

35:08

age well, and that's this one coming out May 21st.

35:11

That's what's the video inside the shop

35:13

where you can pull out of it

35:16

now. So

35:18

I want to talk about the Trump trial.

35:21

I'm very excited. I'm a journalist,

35:23

and I get confused

35:25

as to what trial I'm watching because there are

35:33

so many. What case

35:35

am I watching? This

35:37

one, I've got to say, I was always

35:39

against because I thought of all the ones

35:41

you're bringing, this is the least serious. That

35:44

has been my... I did editorials about

35:46

it, and blah, blah, blah. Now

35:49

I think Trump could lose. I'm

35:52

turning on this one Because

35:54

it's not what I thought it was going to be,

35:56

and this David Pekka, I mean brought down by a

35:58

Pekka, this guy. Also

36:06

called pecker problems that that Donald Trump

36:08

his pecker probably. Has

36:12

a problem for me I think this is

36:14

this one could take him down of you.

36:16

Have you watched him in the courtroom vagina

36:18

admiring? He looks small. If he looks diminished,

36:20

he looks like bird sort of the Wizard

36:22

of Oz. And that right? Yes he looks

36:25

like a suicide bomber that's having second thoughts.

36:33

About this is oddly related to

36:35

the issue around the importance of

36:37

free speech, but we've really perverted

36:39

this great. Intention. Of

36:41

airing information when we have media

36:43

companies. Paying. People saying you're going

36:46

to get your story top of the want?

36:48

An exclusive. And. Then they use that

36:50

under the auspices of airing it and an

36:52

exclusive they tell it. Soon. As you

36:54

the outlet suppressing speech as a new level

36:56

of Monday's yes in America mean that's the

36:58

big take away from the straw that The

37:00

Enquirer. Or which I must say I've

37:02

been reading. Weekly. Every week since

37:04

Nineteen Eighty Eight. I

37:07

don't care. I know it's bullshit. It amuses me

37:09

and a paper. How dare you. It's Thera terribly

37:11

you're in for. I don't give a shit. It's

37:14

funny, funny when I'm in it. I was in

37:16

at last week and the title of the story

37:18

was nobody Likes Bill The. Us

37:22

is Not my. How

37:25

to his last? They'll call my bar some time

37:28

yet as soon as I know a dirty know

37:30

as much but the a media company as an

37:32

armoured A political. Candid right that he may

37:34

not and one the and that but

37:37

this David Zucker. He's like not covering

37:39

up anything and what he is saying

37:41

now is that the crux of any

37:43

saying this was not to protect his

37:45

family. Now Donald Trump did this to

37:47

win the elections. This is the casing

37:49

and it's so clear. I think either

37:52

Juri of Americans could get this. At

38:01

the end of the day, he still says that Donald

38:03

Trump is a mentor and a friend. He still looks

38:05

at him as a mentor and a friend. Now for

38:07

you to testify against a mentor and a friend, it's

38:10

got to be true. Right. It's got to be true.

38:13

And by the way, if this goes that way

38:15

and Trump loses, it's going to change the whole

38:17

election. A number of independents,

38:19

a significant number, and Republicans say their

38:21

vote will change if he is a

38:24

convicted criminal and he'll look like a

38:26

loser. Not that he doesn't already, but

38:28

you know, and Alvin

38:31

Bragg is going to be the

38:33

rising star of the Democratic Party because everyone said,

38:35

oh, not a good idea, including me. So we'll

38:37

see. But then what happens though, if the Supreme

38:39

Court says he's immune. But

38:42

if you look at the four jurisdictions he's being charged in,

38:45

when it gets this far, there's between a 70 and

38:47

92 percent prosecution rate. So

38:49

if you do the statistics, there's like a one in

38:52

600 chance one of these things doesn't stick. Right. So

38:54

even if there's an OS Trump or. But

38:57

the only one that comes to trial before

38:59

the election. Yeah, that's right. But

39:02

interesting point you raise immunity. Is

39:05

the Supreme Court really toying with the idea

39:08

that a president can I mean it was entered

39:11

the hypotheticals that were introduced

39:13

to the court where they went, hmm,

39:15

maybe this week where

39:17

a president could assassinate a political

39:19

rival, not one overseas, not talking

39:21

about assassinating Putin, which I'm not

39:24

assassinating your Democratic rival,

39:26

your Republican rival could

39:30

sell secrets. All

39:33

of all of these things would be

39:35

acceptable because a president has

39:38

this absolute immunity. What happened to no

39:40

one is above the law? All

39:42

you have to do is say you're doing it in your

39:46

official capacity as president. And if you're doing

39:49

it in your official capacity as president, then

39:51

you're immune to it. But what's interesting is

39:53

that they're actually arguing that Joe Biden could

39:56

have Donald Trump assassinated. He would

39:58

be immune. I

40:01

don't think they realize that's what they're saying. I

40:03

don't think he should do that, but I would like to put him in

40:06

a dungeon. What

40:14

say you, professor? Where are they? What

40:18

is the legal reasoning

40:20

for this, that the court is so confused

40:22

about this? The

40:24

most damaging legacy of Donald Trump was

40:26

that he had three Supreme

40:28

Court Justice nominees sit in front of senators and

40:30

lie and say that Roe v. Wade was established

40:32

presidents. And in the moment they got on the

40:34

court, they had a change of heart. This

40:37

is serious. You need to be thoughtful about

40:39

the president we

40:41

elect has an impact on our

40:43

daughters who we declare war against,

40:46

if this is a democracy or

40:48

digresses into fascism, not even

40:50

when they're in town, not

40:52

even well after they leave the office. His

40:54

most damaging legacy is packing the Supreme Court

40:56

with what feels like a massive veer to

40:58

the right. I got to think

41:00

that they have some fidelity to the law. You'd

41:03

like to think that a lifetime appointment will

41:05

kick in and that they will show some

41:07

fidelity to the Constitution and constantly see that

41:09

statue in front of the court that has

41:11

Lady Justice with a blindfold over her eyes. Otherwise,

41:15

the Supreme Court will continue its

41:17

immense decline as the institution

41:19

that used to be the most respected institution

41:21

in America that's fallen further faster than any

41:23

other institution. Let

41:31

me go back to what you were starting to talk

41:33

about before, which is people not having enough sex,

41:35

the younger people. First of all, how do you

41:37

know this? Really,

41:40

there are statistics on this because I do read them, but I don't know how

41:42

they get them. Pew

41:45

reported that one in three men under the age of 30 hasn't had sex

41:47

in the last year. Thirty

41:50

to thirty four year old, sixty percent of them used to

41:52

have at least one child. Now it's twenty seven percent. They're

41:55

staring at their phones. They've been

41:57

convinced by the most deeply deep pocketed. Intelligent

42:00

people in the world that they can have a

42:02

reasonable facsimile of life on screen with an algorithm.

42:05

And. Here's a message: all like young people.

42:07

Nothing. Wonderful going to happen the on screen.

42:10

And. Here's

42:18

the bottom line. Going. Out.

42:20

Trying. To meet a woman or a

42:23

man putting up the rejection, humiliation, the

42:25

insurance showering for god sakes, having a.

42:29

Police Deschanel far this it is

42:32

hard but again another are you

42:34

know call out to young people.

42:37

Romantic. Comedies or two hours? Not fifteen

42:39

minutes for a reason. This it is

42:41

hard and you know what? It's worth

42:43

it. You get out. Need this? Know

42:46

how. Long

42:49

have only known the meet people in your

42:51

phone in my i mean I don't go

42:53

to bars my myself marble when I believe

42:55

isn't when I do I've seen people and

42:57

they're on their phone in the bar in

43:00

a bar but also also people we meet.

43:02

Where. Do you spend the most it? It must

43:04

have the time. It's at work, People you meet

43:06

at work, right? you're not. I would not get

43:08

on or ask anybody out. on a recent days

43:10

I wouldn't do it. One in three. relationship began

43:13

to war or work. At a young people.

43:15

Trust. Me on as get out drink more make

43:17

a series of bad decisions. My pay off. I

43:29

know were being funny about this but it

43:31

has serious repercussions for society does it? Not

43:33

in the economy mean your your your book

43:36

talks about it's about like decisions people make

43:38

and how that have in the rest of

43:40

their life. Financially a meme. the of that

43:42

just a pool may seem surprising to me

43:44

of. You. Know. Economically viable

43:47

young men I think you call them is

43:49

shrinking. Like. Everyone have an

43:51

honest conversation are many. We have to

43:53

have an honest conversation. Man made socio

43:55

economically horizontally and down women horizontally and

43:57

up from in the pool of economically

43:59

mostly viable Man it's horizontally not keeps

44:01

shrinking and by the way, women are

44:03

doing great Mr Do nothing to get

44:05

in aware that. If we don't

44:07

find a way to level of young people

44:09

in for more money into their pocket with

44:11

slowly but surely has been transferred to your

44:13

old people through almost every economic program. They're.

44:16

Not gonna want to form families. And if

44:18

you look at Italy or you look at

44:20

Japan the way we go out of business

44:22

is when we don't have enough for young

44:24

people to support are expensive and unproductive. Seniors.

44:27

And you have an economy

44:29

that goes into the class

44:31

else. Often

44:33

an expression of optimism is having

44:35

kids and we have a we have

44:38

a cohort of young people who

44:40

aren't having sex. They. Aren't getting

44:42

together? Them are obese. Them are anxious to

44:44

more depressed. Fifty. Five percent

44:46

of people our age are extremely far proud

44:48

to be American. Eighteen percent of people under

44:50

the age of twenty five extremely proud to

44:52

be American. What? Happens when you don't

44:54

have the guardrails of a relationship. Miss what happens

44:57

to young man when they don't have the prospect

44:59

of a romantic relationship. There. Are more prone

45:01

to massage and is to content they don't

45:03

believe in climate change. The more prone to

45:06

conspiracy gambling. Get. Rid of

45:08

the city's citizens. We are producing too

45:10

many cities citizens. What are the most

45:12

unstable via. A

45:18

Harper is our fault. I love your father.

45:20

I don't have kids. You don't have kids.

45:22

But the we said yes as bought. This

45:24

is a society we suffered a says i

45:26

can't afford made young people can't afford to

45:29

even own a home anymore Right on barely

45:31

afford rent. They live in a gig economy.

45:33

Where they are they have to work two

45:35

or three jobs. you said You know? Go

45:37

to Accompany state or thirty years in you

45:39

retards. It's no longer that the system anymore

45:41

they can't afford to be to have the American

45:43

dream. Love what you're saying, Don Lemon. The.

45:46

Arab in one. morning

45:49

near my colleagues that academia wake up

45:51

and ask ourselves one question how do

45:53

i increase my compensation while reducing my

45:55

accountability and we found the ultimate strategy

45:57

it's called the lvmh strategy and all

45:59

americans Once I have a degree, take

46:01

UCLA from 76% admissions rate, which

46:04

was when I was there, down to 9%. Once

46:06

I have a house, I become very concerned

46:08

with traffic. So if you have a college

46:10

degree and you have a house, you've seen

46:12

your asset prices skyrocket. But if you're an

46:14

entrant trying to have your shot at the

46:17

American dream, sorry, boss, you're not the future,

46:19

you're nutrition for my generation. Everything we do

46:21

here is a purposeful transfer of wealth and

46:23

opportunity from young people to old people, and

46:25

they are enraged and they should be. All

46:28

right, I've got to stop you there. Thank

46:30

you, guys. That was fun. Stop

46:32

the news, everybody. News. Another

46:43

Tucker Carlson is claiming that UFOs are

46:45

actually spiritual entities that coexist with humans

46:47

and have been living under the ocean

46:49

for thousands of years. Someone

46:51

has to ask him, did the dispensary

46:54

recently open in your neighborhood? Because

47:01

this has all the earmarks of adult-onset stonerism. That's

47:03

when an adult who has never smoked in their

47:05

life walks into a dispensary out

47:08

of sheer curiosity, and a few weeks later they're living on the

47:10

beach and talking about spiritual entities. You

47:20

know, the sword-carrying woman on the new

47:22

50-cent piece has to tell me, don't

47:24

I know you from somewhere? Whoa,

47:36

don't be surprised, Red Lobster may file for

47:38

bankruptcy. Everyone I know who has

47:40

ever eaten there got crab. I

47:48

don't want to say Red Lobster is bad, but if I lived

47:51

in New Guinea, and The only restaurant on

47:53

the island was Red Lobster, even I would

47:55

eat Joe Biden's uncle. Oh,

48:03

you're. Not. A real sorry for the woman

48:05

in the iconic photograph from the Nineteen

48:07

thirties does both. At least she lived

48:09

a life of quiet dignity. If Dorothea

48:11

Lange took her photo today, it would

48:13

just wind up in some stupid mean

48:16

like that feeling when the Trader Joe's

48:18

lot of cool. And.

48:26

Then she as they forgotten until Buzz feed

48:28

put her in a where are they now?

48:30

Less between the success kid and scumbags de.

48:36

Niro Brian Johnson, the tech tycoon

48:38

who spends two million dollars a

48:40

year on supplements and gadgets to

48:42

reverse the aging dresses as to

48:44

admit that he's not getting any

48:46

younger, but he is slowly turning

48:48

into a lesbian. Or.

48:57

Less Okay. I just hope he likes golf.

49:02

Finally, know someone needs to tell the

49:04

people who blocked traffic in the name

49:06

of the cause no one likes you.

49:11

Probably heard a

49:13

hash. Case you

49:15

haven't seen much going on lately, Activists

49:17

for ending the war in Gaza have

49:19

taken the gathering on roads and bridges

49:22

and stopping commuters from crossing and happened

49:24

last week and New York and San

49:26

Francisco Chicago, Seattle. They. Also blocked traffic

49:28

here on the Four o' Five, but no

49:30

one noticed. Okay,

49:40

Didn't notice Was this that? You have to be

49:42

pretty dumb to saying that the way to bring

49:45

people around to your point of view was to

49:47

make them late to pick up their kids from

49:49

daycare. And

49:51

that's what most norm are thinking.

49:53

I'd a kid. I

49:55

have a job and yes, I'm sure there are

49:57

injustices on both sides in the Middle East. There

50:00

are injustices all over the world, but

50:02

I'm going to be late for work.

50:04

Something you protesters on the bridge seem

50:06

to have the luxury of not having

50:08

to worry about which seems kind of

50:10

privilege. he. Using

50:19

blow your hands to the street because your hands

50:21

don't have to do any work. Today. I'm

50:26

not saying there aren't sincere passions

50:28

about Gaza, especially among people from

50:30

the region, but. Social.

50:32

Justice Warriors. For.

50:34

A lot of them. It seems like

50:37

it's more about the more earring than

50:39

about whatever the causes. If you really

50:41

cared about apartheid so much which Israel

50:43

does not actually practice, Arabs their vote,

50:45

They serve in parliament, they sit on

50:48

the judiciary, Wouldn't. You start

50:50

with this. With. The hundreds of

50:52

millions of women in the world

50:54

who live under a true Apartheid.

50:56

A gender Apartheid of the most

50:58

brutal kind. Oh

51:01

wait. Are

51:12

really speaking truth to power? or do you just

51:14

take a look? Cool And a cafe? Yeah. Which

51:19

is really just a new shag of air. a t

51:21

shirt. And historical figure you

51:23

never researched and so think as a

51:25

hero but was actually a sadistic races

51:28

monster fighting for communism the worst form

51:30

of government ever does. These are small

51:32

matters. Worse.

51:40

Small. Matters when

51:42

activism merges with narcissism. Less.

51:45

About the cause and more about me. Look

51:47

At me. Watch. Me: And.

51:49

If you're like the way I'm fighting and justice,

51:51

remember to like and subscribe. In

52:00

February I said confused man even let

52:03

himself on fire in front of the

52:05

Israeli embassy and in his last facebook

52:07

post he said. Many. Of us

52:09

like to ask ourselves what would I do

52:11

if I was alive during slavery. Interesting.

52:14

Cocktail question sir and I guess the

52:16

right answer is kill myself. But

52:20

it wouldn't have actually fix the problem. Of

52:23

General Ulysses, as Grant had immolated himself

52:25

and his last words were hey Lincoln,

52:27

are you using that long. And

52:38

and last week another said confuse man set

52:40

himself on fire at the Trump trial in

52:42

New York. So you can tell yourself you're

52:45

a martyr for the Palestinian cause, but it's

52:47

a lot less special when the next guy

52:49

does it for Stormy Daniels. I

52:58

don't to diminish how sad it is that

53:01

someone would take their own life for any

53:03

reason, but maybe from now on before anyone

53:05

commits an act of civil disobedience, they should

53:07

ask themselves a few questions like. Is.

53:10

The most important thing in my life? Something I

53:12

hadn't heard of Six months ago. Don't.

53:15

Even know I. Do

53:21

even know what the fuck I'm talking about? A

53:29

My really here for the cause or is the

53:31

cause here to bringing me. At

53:39

a loss as hell? Don't to cosplay as

53:42

revolutionaries knock yourself out. Burn yourself out. Just

53:44

don't drag Gaza into it. Also.

53:48

Throwing stuff on paintings is just

53:50

stupid. And

53:58

he's. Mashed Potatoes. The Anemone Day and

54:00

thinks he's got a point. I should recycle my

54:03

can't. Last.

54:10

Way Google employees stage the citizens' protest

54:12

their company doing business with Israel. Their

54:14

t shirt said Googlers against Genocide but

54:16

they could have just as well said

54:19

look at me, See me and Google

54:21

didn't see them to the door. Or

54:31

choir all twenty eight of them the

54:34

next day. Yes! Kahane award coming to

54:36

you guys next year. Loaded.

54:43

Question that today's protester need to ask

54:46

themselves more than any other is. Why?

54:48

Do I care so much about this

54:50

particular cause? North Korea

54:52

stars. It's people. China.

54:54

Put them in concentration camps. Me and

54:57

Mar brutalizes the right? Yeah, Boko.

54:59

Haram kidnaps fall villages of

55:01

women. The. President Burundi.

55:04

says. Gays should be stoned to death

55:06

because they quote deserve it. Nothing.

55:09

Ukraine. Many.

55:12

Of these Google employees had the

55:14

slightest idea what kind of fundamentalist

55:16

oppressive ass holes they're supporting a

55:19

mass The whose? These: Hezbollah, The

55:21

Iranian Revolutionary Guard. They. Might

55:23

take it a little easier on the

55:26

world's greatest monster genocide Joe. Genocide.

55:28

By the way, As. When you want

55:31

to wipe out an entire people. That.

55:33

The stated goal of Hamas. That's

55:35

what from the riveted to see means

55:37

Hamas would do that Israel but can't.

55:40

Israel could do that to them. But.

55:42

Desert and you need. You

55:54

know you could find out out Google it.

56:05

And not to rub

56:07

it in, but you know who all this

56:09

posturing for a cause reminds me of? This

56:13

fat guy from Florida who's

56:15

always pretending that he's all

56:18

about the cause of making

56:20

America great again when plainly

56:22

he's simply history's greatest attention

56:25

whore. He's always

56:27

finding some new injustice from Obama's

56:29

birth certificate to rigged elections, learning

56:32

nothing about it and making it personal. So

56:35

chew on that my warrior friends. The person

56:37

you most resemble is the guy who

56:39

looks like he's always jerking off two guys at once.

56:42

There it is, that's how it ends. Ah, yeah. No,

56:46

it's for us. Yeah, I do see

56:48

Chicago theater December 16th. I want to

56:50

thank Scott Galloway, Don Lebanon, Robert Uptown and

56:52

Lee Jr. I'm

56:55

gonna go watch over time on YouTube.

57:01

Thank you guys. Have a

57:03

good day. Have

57:05

a good one. Catch

57:08

all new episodes of Realtime with Bill Maher

57:10

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57:13

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57:15

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57:17

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