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Welcome to an HBO podcast from the
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HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with
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Bill Maher. Hello,
1:37
everybody! Thank you,
1:40
I appreciate that. How
1:42
you doing? Nice
1:44
to see everyone here.
1:47
Hello there, man. Thank
1:50
you very much.
1:53
Thank you, real
1:55
timers. Thank you,
1:58
I appreciate it. Oh,
2:00
so thank you
2:03
very much. I appreciate that very
2:05
much. Wow,
2:08
what a great move you're in. I
2:10
know. It's a holiday time of year.
2:13
We had 4.20 last week. And
2:16
now it's Passover, which no
2:18
one's celebrating. Could
2:25
be a rough night. No. No,
2:28
you know Passover. It celebrates the exodus of the
2:30
Jews in biblical times from Egypt. And
2:33
nowadays it celebrates the exodus of the
2:35
Jews from Columbia University. When
2:45
did Columbia become Kanye State? Have you
2:47
seen what's going on across the
2:50
country? The kids have really
2:52
found their cause, which
2:54
is getting all the Jews out of the river to
2:56
the sea. That is to be... That
3:00
is their cause. I'm not even making
3:02
a joke yet. That's what they're saying. But campuses
3:04
across the country are in chaos. The kids have
3:06
put up all these tent encampments
3:08
on the quads, and
3:10
they won't come out of their tents. The
3:13
authorities don't know what to do. They don't know how to get them
3:15
out of their tents. I know
3:17
how. Where do their phones die? They'll come out. Um...
3:26
But, uh... Kids, little tip. Keep those
3:28
tents. You're going to need them when you
3:30
graduate. And
3:38
people, have you seen this? People are always saying this is
3:40
very much like the sixties. Anybody remember the sixties? It's not
3:42
like the sixties. The hippies fucked in the tents.
3:48
These kids are like fucking ew. So
3:53
heteronormative. But
3:56
now, Columbia even banned a Jewish professor.
4:00
who was apparently just saying there should be
4:02
a two-state solution, which is not good enough for
4:04
these radicals. And
4:07
the Palestinian students on campus said,
4:09
with the Jewish professor there at
4:12
the school, they felt unsafe. Unsafe.
4:15
And I completely relate to this. Last time I was
4:17
in New York, I was mugged by a gang of
4:19
professors. And
4:29
I told the police, they said, there's something we can do, they
4:31
have tenure. Really?
4:38
So, also going
4:40
on in New York City, following the Trump trial? Oh my.
4:45
Well, boy, this is a shocker this week. Turns
4:49
out, the National Enquirer... Do
4:51
you read the National Enquirer? Oh, you do. Oh,
4:54
fuck. Well,
4:56
turns out, it's a burst of bubbles.
5:00
Somewhat less than a reputable news source.
5:03
Wow, it's like finding the Magic 8-ball doesn't
5:06
predict the future. It's really... It's
5:11
starting to make me question everything I see
5:13
at the checkout counter. You
5:16
mean the three guys on the candy bar are not
5:18
actually musketeers? That's
5:29
a lot going on. Just
5:31
in the last 24 hours, he was indicted
5:33
as a co-conspirator in the fake election
5:35
scheme in Michigan, and then as an unindicted
5:40
co-conspirator, number one, in the fake election
5:42
scheme in Arizona. The
5:44
Supreme Court is hearing oral arguments on his
5:46
ridiculous claim that he has total immunity as
5:49
president, and then of course, there's the trial
5:51
going on in New York. Who
5:54
knew that breaking so many laws is what you needed
5:56
to make America great again? NBC
6:06
is a new show coming out of the post called Law
6:09
and Order Him Again. I
6:18
just want to surprise you on this story. It's not the biggest story
6:20
of the week. It's just, it's my cause.
6:22
So maybe it's not that fucking funny. I don't care.
6:25
This is what I'm pissed off about. The
6:27
governor of North Dakota, why there is even
6:29
two Dakotas, don't get me started on that.
6:33
Or one. But Kristi Noem. Okay, so
6:35
she has a new book out. She's
6:37
highly considered to be the vice presidential
6:39
candidate with Trump. Okay, she's
6:42
bragging that she shot and killed
6:44
her 14-month-old dog. Because
6:46
the dog was, according to her,
6:48
untrainable and worthless as a hunter.
6:53
More move, Marjorie Taylor Greene. I
6:56
just want to say
6:58
this. Say
7:03
this to the people who
7:05
say the parties are exactly the same. Well,
7:08
you know what? Joe Biden had
7:10
a bitey dog, but he
7:12
didn't take him in the Rose Garden and blow his fucking
7:14
brains out. In
7:23
further animal news, bird flu is now
7:25
in the milk. How
7:28
it got in the milk is none of my business. But
7:32
if a crow fucked a cow, that bird
7:34
has some serious gain. Okay, we've got a
7:36
great show. Don
7:39
Lemon. Bob Wellaway are here, but first
7:41
up, he has an environmental lawyer and
7:43
the independent candidate in the 2024 President's
7:45
election, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Did
8:05
you stack this order? I
8:08
wish this election we could hold in
8:10
here. Well, I'm telling you. So
8:12
let me ask the question first that your uncle had
8:14
to answer in 1980, and he kind of blew
8:17
it, when Mike Wallace asked him,
8:19
why do you want to be president? Why are you running?
8:26
My attitude, I was not waiting
8:28
around, and you've known me for a long
8:30
time. I'm going to run for president at
8:32
some point. And my attitude
8:35
evolved as I watched
8:37
our country depart from
8:39
the place that I thought
8:42
it was supposed to be,
8:45
and my political party too. But
8:49
I would say today, people
8:51
who look at President Trump and President Biden see
8:54
two very, very different people. Their dispositions are
8:56
different. Their ideologies are different. Their
9:01
approach to life, to other people,
9:03
to politics is all completely different.
9:07
The actual issues that they're talking
9:09
about, they differ with each other,
9:11
is actually a really
9:14
narrow Overton window. It's mainly
9:16
cultural issues. It's abortion.
9:19
It's guns. It's the
9:21
border. It's transgender. And
9:24
it's not democracy also? I mean,
9:27
I've heard you—let me quote you.
9:30
You say, I can make the argument
9:32
that President Biden is the much worse
9:34
threat to democracy. You've also said the
9:37
greatest threat to democracy is not somebody who
9:39
questions election returns. But Trump did much more
9:41
than just question election returns. Did he not?
9:44
Is he not responsible for actually scheming
9:46
to overturn that election? And isn't
9:48
that a fundamental difference? Yeah, but
9:51
are you going to try to put me in a position
9:53
to defend Donald Trump? No, I'm just
9:55
trying to say—I'm saying—no, what I'm trying to do is— Trying
10:01
to help you runs over as. Far
10:07
as. A or
10:09
I was on a liberal. no sign
10:11
of see and and what I mean
10:13
say. I
10:16
think it's important that people interested and
10:19
at and I said I could make
10:21
the argument that he and his it
10:23
is you know. It
10:26
to me. See. And
10:28
I think the framers our constitutional
10:30
is is to at worst thing
10:32
that you can do as democracy
10:34
instant censor speech And that's why
10:36
they put apples and Adams and
10:38
Madison said we put freedom of
10:40
expression a guarantee of freedom of
10:42
expression. And The First Amendment.
10:45
All the other members of the
10:47
Us rights to Peloton. If you
10:50
have of and like a silence
10:52
critics it has license, atrocity and
10:54
all the rights or a empire.
10:57
She's. An. Accountant
11:00
or a Price
11:02
or crowds and
11:04
sensor us I
11:06
ever out on.
11:12
Us Court of Appeals. Process.
11:16
Ring this systematically many,
11:18
many times because. Thirty
11:21
seven hours after Artists Out.
11:24
A. Lot of people say well. He.
11:27
Was just censoring you on
11:29
public criticism and on any.
11:31
He's that nice guy. So
11:34
even as he uses censorship
11:36
is not a threat. Of
11:44
once you see. A
11:46
rush hour powers like that
11:48
government? it will never. Give.
11:50
It back and it will always
11:53
ultimately. abuse is max make me
11:55
and Oz was no. You know
11:57
today's are letting pharmaceutical companies. Doctors
12:00
and scientists who have
12:03
her. Actions
12:05
aren't. I around
12:07
launched after. A
12:13
while com or sexual acts
12:15
as. A
12:17
com Companies chemical company is
12:20
processed food industry. everybody else.
12:22
Is. To the head of mine once we
12:25
get a. We you know,
12:27
we've let a genie out the
12:29
bottle and happened during the Bush
12:31
Administration like no other. is really
12:33
literally the White House. Was.
12:36
Emailing social media site:
12:38
Twitter, Facebook, Instagram delete
12:40
them to remove people
12:42
like me. And the
12:44
weight on there was no misinformation of
12:47
the government was unable to point to
12:49
a single post or I ever made.
12:51
It was actually a know I'm you
12:53
know I'm very sympathetic to on the
12:55
I mean I've been making very similar
12:58
cases here. Not. As far as
13:00
you go, this is where. but we we do.
13:02
we do. For a company it's on board I
13:04
think. As you have made the case
13:06
better than anybody. We are being poisoned in this
13:08
country and then you always had the issue of
13:10
our time. Your environmental lawyer for most of your
13:13
life. And I
13:15
do think when it comes to medical
13:17
issues. With. The people of
13:19
the science there is no the in
13:21
science will debate and they did thank
13:23
you one person. And
13:30
a fetal form of those science were
13:32
wearing masks outside. And their twenty two?
13:34
okay, you know, so little. Not all
13:36
the science either. But then you
13:39
do say things like no vaccine is
13:41
safe and effective and I don't agree
13:43
with that. Do are Well I
13:45
would say to pulverize all vaccines have side
13:47
of second I like every a medical intervention
13:49
does. I should recognize that and not squelch
13:52
it because it would make people afraid to
13:54
take it's that's different than you said that.
13:56
No vaccine is safe and effective. Can I
13:58
guess ways apes. Hi my name
14:00
on lox rate than podcast years and
14:03
it was in the answer a question
14:05
that lacks that are as me about
14:07
are there any acts is if you
14:10
go back and look at discuss as
14:12
a as years. I
14:14
would never say that. What
14:16
I said was he asked me or other
14:19
any relatives that are safe effective is as.
14:22
It appears isomers of plus I
14:24
respect. Your
14:26
offseason effect. And
14:29
then I said there's no vaccines are
14:31
safe and effective. I was gonna continues
14:33
as if what if you ask for
14:36
it for the product. Other
14:39
medical products seems comes on
14:41
double blind study. He
14:44
likes interrupted me before it doesn't hurt
14:46
others, the whole region or it so,
14:48
but your vice presidential pick wants to
14:50
recall them during a backseat. That's the
14:53
one I got. Work.
14:59
Do you agree with that? Recall it. I.
15:02
Think. The. But
15:04
they you know they are. I
15:06
make those vaccines need to. We
15:08
need to have an true of
15:10
once in a controlled trials on
15:12
answers. Twenty five percent of Americans.
15:16
Who believe that they know somebody
15:18
who was killed by a cup
15:20
of actually killed killed Twenty Five
15:23
percent of Americans? Sixty Two percent
15:25
of Americans. Facts are cause. Injuries
15:29
including to ask you to protect.
15:32
Our. Size
15:38
bags. And
15:44
was if they were twenty two thousand
15:46
people in the placebo group. Twenty thousand.
15:49
People. Who got the actual facts? And
15:52
leave a People Magazine as
15:55
twenty three percent higher tax
15:57
rate. From all
15:59
causes. At. The end In as not
16:01
it, I could not be the disease itself. Out
16:05
loud because we know that if it is
16:07
an accident as it worked about while the
16:09
it's his early. No
16:12
no, it's. Not
16:16
true at all. and I'm someone who did not
16:18
want a vaccine and didn't think I should be
16:20
made to get it. But it does work I
16:22
guess it all right way to wait a minute
16:24
wait. I'm at work in the sense that if
16:26
you are many people who would have died because
16:28
they were not in good health it killed mostly
16:30
be obese and the at the very elderly okay
16:33
those shows how long time but they are those
16:35
people are alive Today I sing because of the
16:37
vaccine. I. Also.
16:44
Is it also have complications? Yes, I mean anecdotally.
16:46
Ah, I've not heard about one at a for
16:48
people dying but I know a lot of people
16:51
have as issue as he as I was a
16:53
could have had worse issues if they got the
16:55
disease that's using medicine as old as. Isis
16:59
and Source most wanted a case by
17:01
case basis that sort of. I agree
17:04
with that. do I believe of people
17:06
acts anger at the American? I'm not
17:08
anti vaccine when eyes as at completely
17:11
since you are y no but that's
17:13
because on all that way of silence
17:15
I made but I'm sad for of
17:18
and seniors are not any facts and
17:20
I just want going science I want
17:22
people should be on to make informed
17:24
choices. I am against exit Matt Day
17:27
What works. And.
17:30
Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa. Whoa.
17:33
Whoa. Why is your own family a
17:35
means for those of us and you
17:37
know me a long time? I by
17:39
Georgia, Irish, American, my father, biggest Kennedy,
17:41
my mother the the mean we were
17:43
huge Kennedy's and still are in the
17:45
family. I mean they're gone now but
17:47
my sister. So when we see the
17:49
Kennedys fighting amongst each other, when we
17:51
see. When. I saw your
17:53
family coming out against you so
17:55
much less week. Is
17:57
it breaks my heart? I mean, What?
18:00
What? Why? Can't
18:02
you? Get them on my side and
18:04
throw them. Out
18:08
I were. Members.
18:15
Of I have family members in his audience and
18:17
I gates' idea of era. Of.
18:25
All higher. I have family
18:27
members running my campaign. I have
18:29
family members running certain states or
18:31
I get a Bell south. I
18:37
also saw my family that works.
18:41
As a longtime friend or family
18:43
us my father behind with the
18:45
Oval office and a friend of
18:47
mine so I understand the display
18:50
it's members my family of at
18:52
me running but also through I
18:54
come from a family where we
18:56
were taught to argue with each
18:58
other and a baby each other.
19:01
My father worked at it's base
19:03
almost every night at the dinner
19:05
table. And are just
19:07
as and. With.
19:10
Reason or also to love each other.
19:12
Even when we disagree with each other
19:15
and I love my family, I feel
19:17
loved by them. They're entitled to their
19:19
opinion. They. Disagree with me
19:21
as they disagree with me on the censorship
19:24
issue. Disagree with me
19:26
on the Ukraine. They disagree with me
19:28
on a lot of other issues and
19:30
I respect them and I love them
19:32
and I wish we could censor him
19:34
as country where we go into is.
19:39
He. Overseas.
19:45
He first came out your brewing nineteen
19:47
percent. That's. Drop was when I
19:49
saw was eleven and than one below that.
19:51
I mean what is the pants or mean
19:54
Other than that you're just a spoiler. Know.
19:56
you begged ralph nader as i did
19:58
once with michael moore Not
20:00
to run for president when he was running against George
20:03
Bush when that election.
20:06
What's different about this? I mean, if there
20:09
is a path to victory, let me know
20:11
what it is. So
20:13
right now I'm beating both President Trump and
20:15
President Biden among young people of all Americans
20:18
under 35. But
20:20
they don't vote? Well, they may this
20:22
time. And they're telling us they're going to vote.
20:25
I'm beating them in the battleground states
20:27
under Americans under 45. I'm
20:30
beating President Trump and President Biden among
20:32
the independents, which is the largest political
20:34
party now, of this first
20:36
presidential election in history, where
20:40
independents will be the biggest self-identified independents
20:42
and the biggest demographic. It's 43% of
20:44
the American electorate. You're
20:47
only on the ballot in three states. Me?
20:49
Yeah, aren't you? Yeah, but that's a different
20:51
question. Well, that's a path. You've got
20:53
to be honest. You've got to be on the ballot, too. I'm
20:56
going to be honest. I'm
20:58
going to be honest. You're
21:01
going to be on the ballot all this time? I can guarantee you
21:03
I will be on the ballot in every state. Really? Very,
21:05
very quickly. So,
21:07
yeah, I'll be on the ballot. But
21:10
also, every bullet that's been done,
21:12
and my
21:14
popularity, my favorability rating is way ahead
21:16
of both President Trump and President Biden.
21:19
In fact, higher than any other political
21:21
figure in this country, every
21:25
poll that's been done shows that
21:27
in a head-to-head race, in other words, if
21:30
it's me against President Trump, I beat
21:32
President Trump. If it's Biden
21:34
against President Trump, he loses. Well, we don't know
21:36
any of that. I mean, we don't know it.
21:39
They're all very close. And I've seen polls where
21:41
your favorability rating is below both of them. Yeah,
21:44
but what I'm saying is every poll
21:46
that's been done that puts us in
21:48
head-to-head races has me beating both President
21:50
Trump and President Biden. People
21:53
are, 80% of the public does not
21:55
want to see a contest between President
21:57
Trump and President Biden. That's an alternative.
22:01
The issue is why are they voting for
22:03
them? They're voting for them. And here's my
22:05
experience. And you tell me if you're different.
22:08
There's a lot of times people, liberals,
22:10
I know, or friends, say
22:13
to me, you need to get out of the
22:15
race to let Biden run because otherwise President Trump
22:17
is going to win. And they never say to
22:19
me, let
22:21
Biden run because he has the cognitive
22:24
capacity and the vigor and the
22:26
energy and the vision for a
22:28
future that's going to really change
22:30
things, to change these existential issues
22:32
that we're facing. The
22:35
destruction of the American middle class, the
22:37
inflation of the budget
22:40
deficit, $34 trillion. We're
22:42
now paying more for
22:44
the service on that debt than for our
22:46
military. And then all of the chronic disease
22:48
epidemic that's disabling our kids. Nobody is saying that
22:51
either of these candidates are going to be
22:53
able to also speak. No, listen, I've got
22:55
to go to the panel. But I have
22:57
to say, these issues should be
22:59
raised. I hope you're in the debate. Robert
23:01
Kennedy. Thank
23:04
you. All
23:06
right, let's get our panel. Hey,
23:14
guys. The
23:19
U.J. Professor of Marketing at NYU Stern School
23:21
of Business and the author of the new
23:23
book, The Algebra of Wealth, the Simple Formula
23:25
for Financial Security, Scott Galloway. And
23:29
the first founder for us, he's an award-winning
23:32
journalist, founder of the Lemon Media Network, and
23:34
host of the Don Lemon Show streaming on
23:36
YouTube and Spotify. Don Lemon's with us. Okay,
23:41
gentlemen. So, you're a professor,
23:43
right? That's supposedly, yeah.
23:47
What's going on on your campus? Isn't it interesting?
23:50
Because I've got to tell you, when I'm listening
23:52
to these people on TV talking about how it's
23:54
the 60s all over again with the campus radicals
23:56
and all the demonstrations,
23:58
let me just throw that out as a... first question. Is
24:02
this like the 60s when they were
24:05
demonstrating against the war in Vietnam?
24:07
What's alike and what's different? Compare
24:09
and contrast. I
24:11
wasn't there in the 60s. I wasn't
24:13
either, but I could read. But yes,
24:15
I agree. I live
24:17
near NYU and I got to watch a lot of it
24:19
play out and I went to talk to
24:22
the students. Listen, it's the same in that it's
24:24
a protest, but it's different in
24:27
that this is about horrible, horrible anti-Semitism
24:29
and racism. A lot of it, some of
24:31
it is, I should say. But when you
24:33
talk to the kids for the most part, for the
24:35
most part, not all of them, these are kids that are
24:37
out there and they're peaceful. A lot
24:39
of them don't have the information needed because
24:41
they're getting their news from TikTok and from
24:43
the media. And they don't have the history
24:45
of what's going on. But I think that
24:48
Scott and I agree. We
24:50
talked about this. I think kids on college
24:52
campuses should be given a wide berth to
24:54
sort of express themselves and to do dumb
24:56
things. But when it crosses over into violence
24:58
and anti-Semitism, that's
25:02
not
25:04
right.
25:06
Yeah,
25:09
the double standard here is pretty striking.
25:11
Dylan Roof goes into a Charleston church
25:13
and kills nine members of a
25:15
black church. If I went down
25:17
to the plaza of any of these universities with
25:19
a white hood, a Confederate flag, and
25:22
signs and started saying, globalize
25:25
Dylan, kill black people, there'd
25:28
be no need for context. We wouldn't be talking
25:30
about free speech. I'd be out of academia. And
25:32
if I whipped up students into
25:35
a frenzy such that we started harassing
25:37
non-white students on the way to
25:39
the library and I started getting in their
25:41
face or even throwing things at them and that has
25:43
happened, we wouldn't be
25:45
having a conversation about the First Amendment. We call
25:48
in the fucking National Guard. when
26:01
it's hate speech against Jews. Well,
26:06
I mean, there's, uh, I'll quote some
26:08
professors. And these are professors. Where
26:12
did the kids get it from? At
26:15
Columbia, Joseph Massad praised the awesome scenes on
26:18
October 7th, and he says, this
26:23
is another Columbia professor, Hamid
26:25
Dabashi, every
26:27
dirty, treacherous, ugly, and permicious act happening
26:30
in the world could
26:32
be traced to the ugly name of Israel. That
26:34
is just a level of rhetoric that
26:37
I don't, you're right, I just have never heard
26:39
anywhere else. And I, you
26:41
know, they say it's great to live in
26:43
interesting times, a little too interesting these times,
26:46
that I would live to see this day
26:48
where Jewish students at Columbia, it's
26:51
still in Morningside Heights, right, Columbia? Are
26:54
told to stay home? But
26:56
some of the kids out there, a lot of them are Jewish kids.
26:58
Yeah, a lot of them are Jewish kids.
27:00
That's really sad. There's an age gap.
27:04
I mean, when I talk to them about it,
27:06
there's an age gap. Young people believe a
27:08
certain way, a certain thing about what's happening
27:10
in the war in Gaza and towards Israel.
27:13
I don't know what the disconnect is. It
27:15
would be interesting for older people,
27:18
especially older Jews and younger Jews, to sit down
27:20
and figure it out, but it's very interesting to
27:22
me, this age gap that's going on. Well, the Harvard
27:24
is teaching a course I read in the Times this
27:26
week in Taylor Swift. I think that's a lot of
27:28
the problem, is it? It's an
27:31
actual course. Well,
27:36
did you see that in the budget? It's
27:38
a billion dollar business. I
27:41
think you've got to cut a 19-year-old to pretty wide
27:43
berth. The point of being 19 is you act stupid
27:45
and you learn and you move on. I'm glad the
27:47
camera isn't following me around, or wasn't when I was
27:49
19. The faculty, if
27:52
we made the mistake of hiring you and you want
27:54
to support Islamic Jihad
27:57
or the Islamic Republic, then you know what, we
27:59
made a mistake. mistake, and we should rectify that
28:02
mistake, that we sign, we pay these people. And
28:05
if they are not taking the temperature down
28:07
and they lack the critical thinking that
28:09
they can't criticize a murderous
28:11
autocracy, pretty simple. They should be
28:13
fired. The
28:23
kids don't seem to know exactly what
28:26
they're protesting for. This went viral. This
28:28
woman at Columbia. I think
28:30
the goal is showing our support for
28:33
Palestine and demanding that NYU stops. I
28:36
actually don't know all of what NYU is doing. I
28:41
hate them. And I'll figure out
28:43
why later. It's awful,
28:46
obviously. Obviously, it's awful what happened on
28:48
October 7th. But, I mean, some
28:51
of this has been going on forever. And I
28:53
think that the young people are just becoming aware
28:55
of it because of October 7th, and they don't
28:57
know the history of it. And they're getting it,
29:00
as I said, off of social media. And perhaps
29:02
they should be teaching, as you said, classes
29:05
on this rather than on Taylor's
29:07
list. But in the big statement
29:09
here, the
29:11
SJP chapters across the
29:14
country erupted in a
29:16
fierce display of power targeting the universities
29:18
for their endless publicity and profiteering off
29:22
the genocide in Gaza and
29:24
colonization of Palestine. Who's
29:26
profiteering? I mean, whenever
29:29
there's a war, people do make money.
29:31
That's true. Somebody is going to buy
29:33
bombs and planes and guns.
29:36
But I don't know if this was a plot.
29:39
The species needs two things to survive. One, we
29:41
need to enjoy sex. And two... I
29:43
agree with that. There's
29:45
a left turn in the discussion, I
29:48
don't know. If
29:54
you want to stop talking about this, just say so. That
29:56
was a little weird,
29:59
man. The
30:01
second thing is you have to get joy from
30:03
rallying together to fight off a perceived threat. And
30:06
I think part of the problem is young people aren't having enough sex
30:08
and so they go on the hunt for fake threats. And
30:11
the most popular threat throughout history, type
30:13
into Google anti-Semitism and pick your century
30:16
and you're going to find it. A
30:19
Jewish girl on her way to get a manicure is not
30:21
your mortal enemy. Stop it for God's sake. But
30:25
to your point before, it has become, it's become
30:27
the case to do it, the fads. Some of
30:29
the kids are out there and they don't know
30:31
what they're protesting about. It's become a fad and
30:33
the thing to do is to protest. Maybe this is
30:36
cynical, but does this have anything to do with finals
30:38
coming up? It
30:41
does seem like, I don't know. But
30:46
I mean, it
30:49
does seem like right around this time
30:51
is when the campuses always erupt in
30:53
some cause. And
30:57
I'm not saying it's not sincere, but the
30:59
timing is suspicious. Well,
31:02
we'd love to study and take the finals,
31:04
but we just have to stop everything for,
31:06
what is it? The
31:10
next fad. I just look towards my
31:12
evening. It's
31:14
just anything. Listen,
31:17
I'm not minimizing what's going on, but it
31:19
teaches some of these students to deal with
31:21
discomfort. Yeah, that's good. It does.
31:24
You mean the tent living in
31:26
the tent? Well, living in the tent and
31:28
also, listen, I'm different than you guys. I'm
31:31
a black gay man, so I live in uncomfortable
31:33
spaces all the time. And I think that is
31:35
a good lesson for college students. Again, I'm not
31:37
saying it's a good lesson. What's going on? What
31:39
do you mean, what's going on? Well, you're so
31:41
uncomfortable spaces. Well, it's uncomfortable. Everything, college
31:44
is not a comfortable place. You learn, you grow. No, but
31:46
you say you live in these spaces. Yeah, I live in
31:48
these spaces. Well, I mean, just tell me what. Well, I'm
31:50
often the only person of color in the room, especially in
31:52
the fourth place. There's only three of us here. Come on,
31:54
there. Come on, there. It's
32:04
easy to poke fun at these kids,
32:06
but history has a way of repeating
32:08
itself. And this is how it starts.
32:11
In 30s Germany, a progressive community,
32:13
a thriving gay community, excellent academic
32:16
institutions, and how it started was
32:19
fashionable to wear a brown shirt and mock students
32:22
at the University of Vienna. This is how it stops.
32:24
And quite frankly, I'm really disappointed more
32:26
Jews aren't speaking out. But
32:30
let's turn to
32:33
your subject now,
32:35
sex. With
32:40
all the depressing things that have been going on in the
32:42
world, I say there was one thing I thought I could
32:45
rely on, which is the Golden Bachelor. What
32:47
a love story, huh? Why
32:50
don't you enter it? I
32:52
mean, I
32:55
so related to him and his
32:57
age-appropriate relationship. One thing
32:59
I've always been forward to that. You actually believe, Bill,
33:01
that you don't believe you can go on a show
33:03
and meet someone for a couple of weeks and fall
33:05
in love and live together for the rest of your
33:08
life? I could, not that guy. But
33:16
I was leaving through the trades only
33:19
like three weeks ago when I saw this ad
33:21
and it says, you know, believe in love again,
33:23
it's impossible not to be moved. And
33:27
then, of course, it was only a couple weeks later
33:29
when the whole thing fell apart. I thought it would
33:31
be a very good time to do one of our
33:33
favorite categories here on the show, which is books
33:36
that didn't age. So,
33:42
for the love of the Golden,
33:44
also simple, there's Travis Kelsey's
33:46
Bros Before Hoes. Morgan
33:55
Marlin's decluttering for dummies. If you don't love
33:57
it, toss it. O.J.
34:03
Simpson, if I'm lying, I'm dying. Lauren
34:13
Boebert, how about a hand? My God. You're
34:17
an Australian.
34:23
Sam Beckman Freeds, free at last. My
34:26
German definition does
34:29
not age well. Tiger
34:33
Woods, tips to keep you from driving into
34:35
the trees. Shohei
34:42
Otani's not without my trench letter. A
34:45
friendship for the ages does not age
34:47
well. And,
34:51
of course, he did his untouchable.
34:53
A rapper's guide to staying one
34:56
step ahead of the rest.
35:06
There is one book I could think of that will
35:08
age well, and that's this one coming out May 21st.
35:11
That's what's the video inside the shop
35:13
where you can pull out of it
35:16
now. So
35:18
I want to talk about the Trump trial.
35:21
I'm very excited. I'm a journalist,
35:23
and I get confused
35:25
as to what trial I'm watching because there are
35:33
so many. What case
35:35
am I watching? This
35:37
one, I've got to say, I was always
35:39
against because I thought of all the ones
35:41
you're bringing, this is the least serious. That
35:44
has been my... I did editorials about
35:46
it, and blah, blah, blah. Now
35:49
I think Trump could lose. I'm
35:52
turning on this one Because
35:54
it's not what I thought it was going to be,
35:56
and this David Pekka, I mean brought down by a
35:58
Pekka, this guy. Also
36:06
called pecker problems that that Donald Trump
36:08
his pecker probably. Has
36:12
a problem for me I think this is
36:14
this one could take him down of you.
36:16
Have you watched him in the courtroom vagina
36:18
admiring? He looks small. If he looks diminished,
36:20
he looks like bird sort of the Wizard
36:22
of Oz. And that right? Yes he looks
36:25
like a suicide bomber that's having second thoughts.
36:33
About this is oddly related to
36:35
the issue around the importance of
36:37
free speech, but we've really perverted
36:39
this great. Intention. Of
36:41
airing information when we have media
36:43
companies. Paying. People saying you're going
36:46
to get your story top of the want?
36:48
An exclusive. And. Then they use that
36:50
under the auspices of airing it and an
36:52
exclusive they tell it. Soon. As you
36:54
the outlet suppressing speech as a new level
36:56
of Monday's yes in America mean that's the
36:58
big take away from the straw that The
37:00
Enquirer. Or which I must say I've
37:02
been reading. Weekly. Every week since
37:04
Nineteen Eighty Eight. I
37:07
don't care. I know it's bullshit. It amuses me
37:09
and a paper. How dare you. It's Thera terribly
37:11
you're in for. I don't give a shit. It's
37:14
funny, funny when I'm in it. I was in
37:16
at last week and the title of the story
37:18
was nobody Likes Bill The. Us
37:22
is Not my. How
37:25
to his last? They'll call my bar some time
37:28
yet as soon as I know a dirty know
37:30
as much but the a media company as an
37:32
armoured A political. Candid right that he may
37:34
not and one the and that but
37:37
this David Zucker. He's like not covering
37:39
up anything and what he is saying
37:41
now is that the crux of any
37:43
saying this was not to protect his
37:45
family. Now Donald Trump did this to
37:47
win the elections. This is the casing
37:49
and it's so clear. I think either
37:52
Juri of Americans could get this. At
38:01
the end of the day, he still says that Donald
38:03
Trump is a mentor and a friend. He still looks
38:05
at him as a mentor and a friend. Now for
38:07
you to testify against a mentor and a friend, it's
38:10
got to be true. Right. It's got to be true.
38:13
And by the way, if this goes that way
38:15
and Trump loses, it's going to change the whole
38:17
election. A number of independents,
38:19
a significant number, and Republicans say their
38:21
vote will change if he is a
38:24
convicted criminal and he'll look like a
38:26
loser. Not that he doesn't already, but
38:28
you know, and Alvin
38:31
Bragg is going to be the
38:33
rising star of the Democratic Party because everyone said,
38:35
oh, not a good idea, including me. So we'll
38:37
see. But then what happens though, if the Supreme
38:39
Court says he's immune. But
38:42
if you look at the four jurisdictions he's being charged in,
38:45
when it gets this far, there's between a 70 and
38:47
92 percent prosecution rate. So
38:49
if you do the statistics, there's like a one in
38:52
600 chance one of these things doesn't stick. Right. So
38:54
even if there's an OS Trump or. But
38:57
the only one that comes to trial before
38:59
the election. Yeah, that's right. But
39:02
interesting point you raise immunity. Is
39:05
the Supreme Court really toying with the idea
39:08
that a president can I mean it was entered
39:11
the hypotheticals that were introduced
39:13
to the court where they went, hmm,
39:15
maybe this week where
39:17
a president could assassinate a political
39:19
rival, not one overseas, not talking
39:21
about assassinating Putin, which I'm not
39:24
assassinating your Democratic rival,
39:26
your Republican rival could
39:30
sell secrets. All
39:33
of all of these things would be
39:35
acceptable because a president has
39:38
this absolute immunity. What happened to no
39:40
one is above the law? All
39:42
you have to do is say you're doing it in your
39:46
official capacity as president. And if you're doing
39:49
it in your official capacity as president, then
39:51
you're immune to it. But what's interesting is
39:53
that they're actually arguing that Joe Biden could
39:56
have Donald Trump assassinated. He would
39:58
be immune. I
40:01
don't think they realize that's what they're saying. I
40:03
don't think he should do that, but I would like to put him in
40:06
a dungeon. What
40:14
say you, professor? Where are they? What
40:18
is the legal reasoning
40:20
for this, that the court is so confused
40:22
about this? The
40:24
most damaging legacy of Donald Trump was
40:26
that he had three Supreme
40:28
Court Justice nominees sit in front of senators and
40:30
lie and say that Roe v. Wade was established
40:32
presidents. And in the moment they got on the
40:34
court, they had a change of heart. This
40:37
is serious. You need to be thoughtful about
40:39
the president we
40:41
elect has an impact on our
40:43
daughters who we declare war against,
40:46
if this is a democracy or
40:48
digresses into fascism, not even
40:50
when they're in town, not
40:52
even well after they leave the office. His
40:54
most damaging legacy is packing the Supreme Court
40:56
with what feels like a massive veer to
40:58
the right. I got to think
41:00
that they have some fidelity to the law. You'd
41:03
like to think that a lifetime appointment will
41:05
kick in and that they will show some
41:07
fidelity to the Constitution and constantly see that
41:09
statue in front of the court that has
41:11
Lady Justice with a blindfold over her eyes. Otherwise,
41:15
the Supreme Court will continue its
41:17
immense decline as the institution
41:19
that used to be the most respected institution
41:21
in America that's fallen further faster than any
41:23
other institution. Let
41:31
me go back to what you were starting to talk
41:33
about before, which is people not having enough sex,
41:35
the younger people. First of all, how do you
41:37
know this? Really,
41:40
there are statistics on this because I do read them, but I don't know how
41:42
they get them. Pew
41:45
reported that one in three men under the age of 30 hasn't had sex
41:47
in the last year. Thirty
41:50
to thirty four year old, sixty percent of them used to
41:52
have at least one child. Now it's twenty seven percent. They're
41:55
staring at their phones. They've been
41:57
convinced by the most deeply deep pocketed. Intelligent
42:00
people in the world that they can have a
42:02
reasonable facsimile of life on screen with an algorithm.
42:05
And. Here's a message: all like young people.
42:07
Nothing. Wonderful going to happen the on screen.
42:10
And. Here's
42:18
the bottom line. Going. Out.
42:20
Trying. To meet a woman or a
42:23
man putting up the rejection, humiliation, the
42:25
insurance showering for god sakes, having a.
42:29
Police Deschanel far this it is
42:32
hard but again another are you
42:34
know call out to young people.
42:37
Romantic. Comedies or two hours? Not fifteen
42:39
minutes for a reason. This it is
42:41
hard and you know what? It's worth
42:43
it. You get out. Need this? Know
42:46
how. Long
42:49
have only known the meet people in your
42:51
phone in my i mean I don't go
42:53
to bars my myself marble when I believe
42:55
isn't when I do I've seen people and
42:57
they're on their phone in the bar in
43:00
a bar but also also people we meet.
43:02
Where. Do you spend the most it? It must
43:04
have the time. It's at work, People you meet
43:06
at work, right? you're not. I would not get
43:08
on or ask anybody out. on a recent days
43:10
I wouldn't do it. One in three. relationship began
43:13
to war or work. At a young people.
43:15
Trust. Me on as get out drink more make
43:17
a series of bad decisions. My pay off. I
43:29
know were being funny about this but it
43:31
has serious repercussions for society does it? Not
43:33
in the economy mean your your your book
43:36
talks about it's about like decisions people make
43:38
and how that have in the rest of
43:40
their life. Financially a meme. the of that
43:42
just a pool may seem surprising to me
43:44
of. You. Know. Economically viable
43:47
young men I think you call them is
43:49
shrinking. Like. Everyone have an
43:51
honest conversation are many. We have to
43:53
have an honest conversation. Man made socio
43:55
economically horizontally and down women horizontally and
43:57
up from in the pool of economically
43:59
mostly viable Man it's horizontally not keeps
44:01
shrinking and by the way, women are
44:03
doing great Mr Do nothing to get
44:05
in aware that. If we don't
44:07
find a way to level of young people
44:09
in for more money into their pocket with
44:11
slowly but surely has been transferred to your
44:13
old people through almost every economic program. They're.
44:16
Not gonna want to form families. And if
44:18
you look at Italy or you look at
44:20
Japan the way we go out of business
44:22
is when we don't have enough for young
44:24
people to support are expensive and unproductive. Seniors.
44:27
And you have an economy
44:29
that goes into the class
44:31
else. Often
44:33
an expression of optimism is having
44:35
kids and we have a we have
44:38
a cohort of young people who
44:40
aren't having sex. They. Aren't getting
44:42
together? Them are obese. Them are anxious to
44:44
more depressed. Fifty. Five percent
44:46
of people our age are extremely far proud
44:48
to be American. Eighteen percent of people under
44:50
the age of twenty five extremely proud to
44:52
be American. What? Happens when you don't
44:54
have the guardrails of a relationship. Miss what happens
44:57
to young man when they don't have the prospect
44:59
of a romantic relationship. There. Are more prone
45:01
to massage and is to content they don't
45:03
believe in climate change. The more prone to
45:06
conspiracy gambling. Get. Rid of
45:08
the city's citizens. We are producing too
45:10
many cities citizens. What are the most
45:12
unstable via. A
45:18
Harper is our fault. I love your father.
45:20
I don't have kids. You don't have kids.
45:22
But the we said yes as bought. This
45:24
is a society we suffered a says i
45:26
can't afford made young people can't afford to
45:29
even own a home anymore Right on barely
45:31
afford rent. They live in a gig economy.
45:33
Where they are they have to work two
45:35
or three jobs. you said You know? Go
45:37
to Accompany state or thirty years in you
45:39
retards. It's no longer that the system anymore
45:41
they can't afford to be to have the American
45:43
dream. Love what you're saying, Don Lemon. The.
45:46
Arab in one. morning
45:49
near my colleagues that academia wake up
45:51
and ask ourselves one question how do
45:53
i increase my compensation while reducing my
45:55
accountability and we found the ultimate strategy
45:57
it's called the lvmh strategy and all
45:59
americans Once I have a degree, take
46:01
UCLA from 76% admissions rate, which
46:04
was when I was there, down to 9%. Once
46:06
I have a house, I become very concerned
46:08
with traffic. So if you have a college
46:10
degree and you have a house, you've seen
46:12
your asset prices skyrocket. But if you're an
46:14
entrant trying to have your shot at the
46:17
American dream, sorry, boss, you're not the future,
46:19
you're nutrition for my generation. Everything we do
46:21
here is a purposeful transfer of wealth and
46:23
opportunity from young people to old people, and
46:25
they are enraged and they should be. All
46:28
right, I've got to stop you there. Thank
46:30
you, guys. That was fun. Stop
46:32
the news, everybody. News. Another
46:43
Tucker Carlson is claiming that UFOs are
46:45
actually spiritual entities that coexist with humans
46:47
and have been living under the ocean
46:49
for thousands of years. Someone
46:51
has to ask him, did the dispensary
46:54
recently open in your neighborhood? Because
47:01
this has all the earmarks of adult-onset stonerism. That's
47:03
when an adult who has never smoked in their
47:05
life walks into a dispensary out
47:08
of sheer curiosity, and a few weeks later they're living on the
47:10
beach and talking about spiritual entities. You
47:20
know, the sword-carrying woman on the new
47:22
50-cent piece has to tell me, don't
47:24
I know you from somewhere? Whoa,
47:36
don't be surprised, Red Lobster may file for
47:38
bankruptcy. Everyone I know who has
47:40
ever eaten there got crab. I
47:48
don't want to say Red Lobster is bad, but if I lived
47:51
in New Guinea, and The only restaurant on
47:53
the island was Red Lobster, even I would
47:55
eat Joe Biden's uncle. Oh,
48:03
you're. Not. A real sorry for the woman
48:05
in the iconic photograph from the Nineteen
48:07
thirties does both. At least she lived
48:09
a life of quiet dignity. If Dorothea
48:11
Lange took her photo today, it would
48:13
just wind up in some stupid mean
48:16
like that feeling when the Trader Joe's
48:18
lot of cool. And.
48:26
Then she as they forgotten until Buzz feed
48:28
put her in a where are they now?
48:30
Less between the success kid and scumbags de.
48:36
Niro Brian Johnson, the tech tycoon
48:38
who spends two million dollars a
48:40
year on supplements and gadgets to
48:42
reverse the aging dresses as to
48:44
admit that he's not getting any
48:46
younger, but he is slowly turning
48:48
into a lesbian. Or.
48:57
Less Okay. I just hope he likes golf.
49:02
Finally, know someone needs to tell the
49:04
people who blocked traffic in the name
49:06
of the cause no one likes you.
49:11
Probably heard a
49:13
hash. Case you
49:15
haven't seen much going on lately, Activists
49:17
for ending the war in Gaza have
49:19
taken the gathering on roads and bridges
49:22
and stopping commuters from crossing and happened
49:24
last week and New York and San
49:26
Francisco Chicago, Seattle. They. Also blocked traffic
49:28
here on the Four o' Five, but no
49:30
one noticed. Okay,
49:40
Didn't notice Was this that? You have to be
49:42
pretty dumb to saying that the way to bring
49:45
people around to your point of view was to
49:47
make them late to pick up their kids from
49:49
daycare. And
49:51
that's what most norm are thinking.
49:53
I'd a kid. I
49:55
have a job and yes, I'm sure there are
49:57
injustices on both sides in the Middle East. There
50:00
are injustices all over the world, but
50:02
I'm going to be late for work.
50:04
Something you protesters on the bridge seem
50:06
to have the luxury of not having
50:08
to worry about which seems kind of
50:10
privilege. he. Using
50:19
blow your hands to the street because your hands
50:21
don't have to do any work. Today. I'm
50:26
not saying there aren't sincere passions
50:28
about Gaza, especially among people from
50:30
the region, but. Social.
50:32
Justice Warriors. For.
50:34
A lot of them. It seems like
50:37
it's more about the more earring than
50:39
about whatever the causes. If you really
50:41
cared about apartheid so much which Israel
50:43
does not actually practice, Arabs their vote,
50:45
They serve in parliament, they sit on
50:48
the judiciary, Wouldn't. You start
50:50
with this. With. The hundreds of
50:52
millions of women in the world
50:54
who live under a true Apartheid.
50:56
A gender Apartheid of the most
50:58
brutal kind. Oh
51:01
wait. Are
51:12
really speaking truth to power? or do you just
51:14
take a look? Cool And a cafe? Yeah. Which
51:19
is really just a new shag of air. a t
51:21
shirt. And historical figure you
51:23
never researched and so think as a
51:25
hero but was actually a sadistic races
51:28
monster fighting for communism the worst form
51:30
of government ever does. These are small
51:32
matters. Worse.
51:40
Small. Matters when
51:42
activism merges with narcissism. Less.
51:45
About the cause and more about me. Look
51:47
At me. Watch. Me: And.
51:49
If you're like the way I'm fighting and justice,
51:51
remember to like and subscribe. In
52:00
February I said confused man even let
52:03
himself on fire in front of the
52:05
Israeli embassy and in his last facebook
52:07
post he said. Many. Of us
52:09
like to ask ourselves what would I do
52:11
if I was alive during slavery. Interesting.
52:14
Cocktail question sir and I guess the
52:16
right answer is kill myself. But
52:20
it wouldn't have actually fix the problem. Of
52:23
General Ulysses, as Grant had immolated himself
52:25
and his last words were hey Lincoln,
52:27
are you using that long. And
52:38
and last week another said confuse man set
52:40
himself on fire at the Trump trial in
52:42
New York. So you can tell yourself you're
52:45
a martyr for the Palestinian cause, but it's
52:47
a lot less special when the next guy
52:49
does it for Stormy Daniels. I
52:58
don't to diminish how sad it is that
53:01
someone would take their own life for any
53:03
reason, but maybe from now on before anyone
53:05
commits an act of civil disobedience, they should
53:07
ask themselves a few questions like. Is.
53:10
The most important thing in my life? Something I
53:12
hadn't heard of Six months ago. Don't.
53:15
Even know I. Do
53:21
even know what the fuck I'm talking about? A
53:29
My really here for the cause or is the
53:31
cause here to bringing me. At
53:39
a loss as hell? Don't to cosplay as
53:42
revolutionaries knock yourself out. Burn yourself out. Just
53:44
don't drag Gaza into it. Also.
53:48
Throwing stuff on paintings is just
53:50
stupid. And
53:58
he's. Mashed Potatoes. The Anemone Day and
54:00
thinks he's got a point. I should recycle my
54:03
can't. Last.
54:10
Way Google employees stage the citizens' protest
54:12
their company doing business with Israel. Their
54:14
t shirt said Googlers against Genocide but
54:16
they could have just as well said
54:19
look at me, See me and Google
54:21
didn't see them to the door. Or
54:31
choir all twenty eight of them the
54:34
next day. Yes! Kahane award coming to
54:36
you guys next year. Loaded.
54:43
Question that today's protester need to ask
54:46
themselves more than any other is. Why?
54:48
Do I care so much about this
54:50
particular cause? North Korea
54:52
stars. It's people. China.
54:54
Put them in concentration camps. Me and
54:57
Mar brutalizes the right? Yeah, Boko.
54:59
Haram kidnaps fall villages of
55:01
women. The. President Burundi.
55:04
says. Gays should be stoned to death
55:06
because they quote deserve it. Nothing.
55:09
Ukraine. Many.
55:12
Of these Google employees had the
55:14
slightest idea what kind of fundamentalist
55:16
oppressive ass holes they're supporting a
55:19
mass The whose? These: Hezbollah, The
55:21
Iranian Revolutionary Guard. They. Might
55:23
take it a little easier on the
55:26
world's greatest monster genocide Joe. Genocide.
55:28
By the way, As. When you want
55:31
to wipe out an entire people. That.
55:33
The stated goal of Hamas. That's
55:35
what from the riveted to see means
55:37
Hamas would do that Israel but can't.
55:40
Israel could do that to them. But.
55:42
Desert and you need. You
55:54
know you could find out out Google it.
56:05
And not to rub
56:07
it in, but you know who all this
56:09
posturing for a cause reminds me of? This
56:13
fat guy from Florida who's
56:15
always pretending that he's all
56:18
about the cause of making
56:20
America great again when plainly
56:22
he's simply history's greatest attention
56:25
whore. He's always
56:27
finding some new injustice from Obama's
56:29
birth certificate to rigged elections, learning
56:32
nothing about it and making it personal. So
56:35
chew on that my warrior friends. The person
56:37
you most resemble is the guy who
56:39
looks like he's always jerking off two guys at once.
56:42
There it is, that's how it ends. Ah, yeah. No,
56:46
it's for us. Yeah, I do see
56:48
Chicago theater December 16th. I want to
56:50
thank Scott Galloway, Don Lebanon, Robert Uptown and
56:52
Lee Jr. I'm
56:55
gonna go watch over time on YouTube.
57:01
Thank you guys. Have a
57:03
good day. Have
57:05
a good one. Catch
57:08
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57:10
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57:13
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57:15
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57:17
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