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Well, the big show, I think I know why

2:02

you're happy. It's a holiday tomorrow, 4.20. Nice.

2:11

I've got to start my baking. I'm

2:16

kidding. I started earlier. Anyway, it's

2:18

a very special 4.20 because it's 4.20, 24,

2:22

which is the same backwards

2:25

and forwards. This only happens

2:27

once every 100 years, like

2:32

Arizona updating its abortion law. There

2:40

is just so much going

2:42

on this week. I tell you, a

2:44

new Taylor Swift album and a Donald

2:46

Trump trial. So

2:49

something for the Swifties and for the not

2:52

so Swifties. Yeah,

3:00

the album, you have it already. Oh, it's amazing.

3:02

It's called Tortured Poets

3:04

Department. And everybody loves it already. The

3:06

tweens love it. The teens love it.

3:08

The millennials love it. Dick Cheney said,

3:10

you had me at Tortured. But

3:19

this trial is really wearing on Donald

3:21

Trump. I've been watching him. Oh my

3:23

god. Because people get to

3:25

talk about him. And he has to

3:27

sit there for hours without saying anything.

3:34

Kind of like he did on January 6. He

3:46

keeps falling asleep. And

3:49

of course, he says he's

3:52

just resting his eyes, right. And

3:55

he's not drooling. His head is having a wet dream.

4:03

But I

4:06

say it, this race is getting quite interesting.

4:08

Did you see Bobby Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, RFK?

4:10

He is now polling at 11.7 percent. Not

4:14

nationally, just with his family. My

4:17

kids. Well,

4:23

a lot of his family came out and said he should pull

4:25

out of the race, and he said, please, I'm a Kennedy. I

4:27

don't know the meaning of the word, pollock. But

4:36

he will be right there next

4:38

week, so we're very excited about that. Now,

4:43

of course, have you

4:45

seen a lot of news from the Middle East? I was

4:47

serious a few weeks ago. Israel bombed

4:50

Iranians in Syria. And

4:52

this weekend Iran fired 300

4:54

missiles and drone strikes at

4:57

Israel. It didn't hit

4:59

anything. Make

5:02

up that over your will. And then Israel now

5:04

fired back today. And I tell

5:06

you, when you get bombed in Iran, it's very

5:08

tough for the women there. They have to run

5:11

for their life without showing ankle. Now,

5:21

hopefully this is all coming down because

5:23

Israel's Iran says they have no plans

5:25

now to retaliate to that. And I

5:28

think that's great because, look, I know

5:30

it's possible for Persians and Jews to

5:32

coexist. I've been to the Beverly

5:34

Center. Now,

5:45

the big issue in Congress is funding. Should we

5:47

be funding Israel and members of Congress? This is

5:49

we have crossed the Rubicon here. This is actually

5:51

a big story. I don't think they're covering it

5:53

that way, but I think it's big. Members of

5:56

Congress are now trolling each other within

5:58

legislation. They're writing trolling into

6:00

the legislation. Marjorie Taylor Greene, remember

6:02

when she, because she's QAnon, she

6:04

thinks they have Jewish space lasers,

6:06

whatever the fuck that is. So

6:11

she wrote into the legislation, an

6:13

amendment that Israel has to be

6:15

funded for, space laser technology. Oh

6:18

Lord. You know what, I

6:20

think it's good that she can laugh at

6:22

herself because I'm exhausted. Now

6:32

then Mr. People who don't want Israel

6:34

to get any money, that's the pro-

6:36

Palestinian protesters. They have been out this

6:39

weekend, they were closing

6:41

down bridges in San Francisco, New York,

6:43

several other cities. That's their new thing,

6:45

bridges. Get on the bridge and stop

6:48

people from getting across the bridge. And

6:50

the people are all saying, I'm trying to get

6:52

on the bridge. Where is a drifting cargo ship

6:55

when you need one? And

7:04

finally, Joe Biden made some news

7:06

this week by revealing that

7:09

his uncle was eaten by cannibals.

7:11

Good night everybody. No

7:13

I'm not kidding. Did you

7:16

see the story? Joe was kind of riffing and

7:18

he was talking about his uncle was shot down,

7:20

this is World War II in New Guinea. Apparently

7:23

there are cannibals there and they never found

7:25

the body so ipso facto he was eaten

7:27

by cannibals. I don't know

7:30

if this is a true story but I think it's

7:32

a great metaphor for the times we live in because

7:34

if you want to continue living you're gonna have to

7:36

swallow some Biden. I

8:04

know you Adam there for you the have

8:06

no bearing on for me no no when

8:08

about your fitness person you always look amazing

8:10

and that that's where you made your bones

8:13

in this business and people know you very

8:15

well from what you have to say about

8:17

health. I've always admired you because it's not

8:19

easy to talk about health it people. They.

8:22

They want to be healthy and theory but when you

8:24

talk about it. It. Gets personal.

8:27

In a take it apart and political now

8:29

which is shocking and brand new right? But

8:31

they kind of have a love hate relationship

8:34

with good advice and when we know you

8:36

from shows that you're on were you told

8:38

us how to live, diet and exercise. I

8:41

want to You hear denounced because everyone is talking

8:43

about it was Anthrax. And I

8:45

need to do what it but his sake, I

8:48

mean diet and exercise is the old fashioned way

8:50

We all said well, there must be a short

8:52

size. Is the only way. the only way. it

8:54

is the only way I was reading your new

8:56

book. Thank you for sending that to. Me by

8:59

the way. Oh, handling it. Was

9:07

his comedians have a shock you out may

9:09

twenty first. To

9:11

preorder an extra. Thought you said you

9:13

think when historians look back. On.

9:16

People in the Twenty first century they were

9:18

characterized them as anti science and as soon

9:20

as a badge. On both sides to. Or

9:22

words have never been spoken. especially

9:24

when it comes to house because

9:26

the reality is that these drugs

9:28

be doing work. But. It's

9:30

a devil's bargain at

9:33

an extraordinary price. And

9:35

there's a solution, albeit simple but

9:37

not easy and has no negative

9:39

side effects. And nothing but upside

9:41

is how eating a little bit

9:43

less and moving. On with him. But

9:46

what you're saying is not something I've heard

9:48

a lot and really, yes I will. Oprah

9:50

calls it a gift. People call it a

9:52

miracle of slavery. onset of eyes to call

9:54

it a guess. too high and I was

9:56

what I watched the of the others. Why

9:59

want you here. The Rendezvous Billie Hearing

10:01

this other side? Yeah, why do you say

10:03

to Devil's Bargain? What is this? Our side

10:05

effects? What's the downside was Lng. Okay here's

10:07

the deal. If we look at the

10:09

box and I see this because it

10:12

isn't my opinion and I have no

10:14

judgment, it's not an easy way out.

10:16

It wasn't easy way out. Life is

10:18

hard enough. Take it right? So the

10:20

side effects alone. Fifty percent of the

10:22

people that take it was France, nausea,

10:24

vomiting, constipation, and a lot of people

10:26

will get off of it because the

10:29

can't tolerate those side effects. Well beyond

10:31

that, there's pancreatitis. Kidney failure and a

10:33

said always wear it You're saying it's causing

10:35

those compare encourage I was older the next.

10:37

On the bar. How much. Okay,

10:40

what music store? Hundred percent increase

10:42

chance of pancreatitis when taking. This

10:44

dog you've got. Sigh. Worry

10:47

tumors, vision loss? you've got

10:49

muscle loss. And know, anecdotally,

10:51

we're seeing articles on the

10:53

Daily One that came out

10:55

just yesterday saying that psychiatrists

10:57

think it more pure brain.

11:00

Because. Of how it impacts your

11:02

body's ability to regulate. Do the

11:04

me another suicidal ideations there's lack

11:06

of libido. Ago rope suicidal

11:08

ideation or was really my bird?

11:10

Yeah, Europe says know. We.

11:13

Here at Ft. A first they said no, then they

11:15

say well we're studying at more. And

11:17

they should we do have that was like a

11:19

hundred and fifty seven reported cases. Do whatever they

11:21

report them to a be of the earth. Significant

11:23

amount. They didn't do a study,

11:26

but they look at people who

11:28

committed suicide now people who had

11:30

suicidal thoughts. Why would this drug?

11:33

Could. Make you think of suicide. You know I've

11:35

spoken. To multiple psychiatrists about this

11:37

and there are different theories, one

11:40

of which is that Serotonin. Right?

11:42

Which is it's or feel good one of our feel good

11:44

chemicals. Has made in the got makes. Look at how

11:47

this. Drug Impact Forgot which by

11:49

the way, I forgot to mention

11:51

stomach promises and intestinal blockage are

11:53

also deadly Side effects each aren't.

11:56

We going to impact we your body make serotonin

11:58

and now we're looking at. Open

12:00

mean anything that it's impacting the Were

12:02

body regulates doesn't mean. But. They

12:04

have no idea how and if you

12:07

want to get really afraid. The

12:09

American Academy of Pediatrics is what. Amending

12:12

this as a first line of defense.

12:14

For. Children now twelve years old, but

12:17

they're testing in my kids as any

12:19

Six. It's it's.

12:21

absolutely pernicious. Why? Why? With

12:23

the metabolism you habit? Six?

12:26

You. Can be healthy to begin with is just

12:28

crazy and and look I hear you look I'm

12:31

I'm basically on your page on aug of like

12:33

when you talk about this or what changes would

12:35

is near got your serotonin That's the kind of

12:37

thing that I'm always talking about on the show

12:39

and people think I have to head is when

12:41

we intimate so hard to talk about help because

12:44

it's like a what are you talking about serotonin

12:46

your got blah blah blah blah. But.

12:48

Did you? Yeah, Yak Yak! As you

12:50

noted as that's what health is. it's

12:52

It's this interconnectedness that goes on in

12:54

our body. Actually, and people

12:57

do not want to hear it.

12:59

but but it's not always. Evidence.

13:01

Or on the surface, what causes one

13:04

thing when you do one medical intervention?

13:06

What happens downstream. That walk. I'm all. right?

13:08

And it biggest problem was

13:11

that require new drugs to

13:13

treat those issues but again.

13:16

But what? Okay, Let's look at

13:18

how it works and the reason I will

13:20

look at how it works is because I

13:22

want to encourage people that eating less will

13:24

work. What is it doing? What They know

13:26

that that would you pay for.

13:28

I. Hear constantly all the time. I can't

13:30

lose weight. Nothing works. Misses his magic

13:32

was a know that would work with their what

13:34

they're saying is I can't stop eating for let

13:37

him look at. Why the insatiable hunger?

13:39

And that's really important. And this

13:41

is were big food comes into

13:43

play. So you've got a psychology.

13:45

A lot of people are utilizing food

13:48

as a coping mechanism and defend structure.

13:50

Kinsey scale if you're not addictive. Also,

13:52

troopers, they purposely may get addicted they

13:54

hadn't. Food companies have labs where they

13:56

do this all day. Tennis is one.

13:59

Where. They just weren't right. exactly. I

14:01

mean, then I know what they're doing a

14:03

hundred percent. yet. And. So what

14:05

happens? Is there literally hacking your

14:08

biochemist, right? When. You look at

14:10

with these drugs. Do. The

14:12

mimics a tidy hormones. You realize

14:14

that our bodies are designed to

14:16

have what's called. Mechanistic,

14:18

Homeostasis We are built to regulate

14:21

body temperature to regulate. Story p

14:23

One Pete was your and I

14:25

talked about and rub random go

14:27

right. Were also built a regular

14:29

appetite. But the issue is what's going

14:31

to do it. Helps that.

14:34

Also. Fiber. When you

14:36

drink soda, there's no fiber, there's no fat,

14:38

there's no protein know so tiny role as

14:40

are being least and. In fact, hunger

14:42

hormones get released when you eat

14:44

These lose. Plus this hack the

14:46

total mean center of your brain.

14:48

They are chemically addictive, as much

14:50

as coconut, cocaine and nicotine. Okay,

14:53

but first, well I've read or for the half

14:55

the people who take of them but or were

14:57

one of these three. Has. No

14:59

side effects check. right? Mole They

15:02

will. Plateau. And will

15:04

will pledge home absolutely. Every

15:06

single study. Illustrates. That

15:09

between weeks sixty eight and Seventy

15:11

two a drug stops working, build

15:13

a tolerance to it soon becomes

15:15

inevitable that you'll have to figure

15:17

this out organically. Anyway,

15:19

And in addition we really don't know with

15:22

the since like in perpetuity bill people cannot

15:24

get all have it and when they do

15:26

all the men. Are now have to be

15:28

honored for life. Realize you again it all

15:30

back and then some. Is yo Yo dieting

15:32

on crackers, people and er, Well.

15:44

There are lots of drugs, road or the alert

15:46

or with it is you don't. Medicine is playing

15:48

the odds and it's always about what is the

15:50

least bad option if you really are one of

15:52

those people who can't stop eating. And I understand

15:54

that because that's not my thing. But.

15:57

if they said to me stop smoking

15:59

pot I think I...

16:04

I'm so proud of you! All

16:09

joking aside, it would be very hard to live the kind

16:11

of... and I don't even smoke every day. I'm not the

16:13

kind of pothead people think I am. I

16:16

am now. But when I want it, I want it.

16:20

Okay. There's

16:24

a line in the sand. Okay. And I know it's 420

16:26

and everything, but I've never... I've

16:28

never lied about it and said, oh, it's health

16:30

food. I mean, it's not. I'm

16:33

probably hurting myself to some degree. Not like

16:35

I did with cigarettes and liquor, which was

16:37

really stupid. But, you know, but

16:39

it's a trade-off is what I'm saying. And people...

16:42

What's wrong with saying, look, I'm gonna

16:44

eat. I just know I am. I've tried

16:46

everything. It's not gonna happen. This is the

16:48

least bad option because otherwise I'm gonna have

16:50

a heart attack. Otherwise I'm gonna have high

16:53

cholesterol and all the other things that you

16:55

can get. And I would play that out

16:57

with you all the way to the part where the

16:59

drug stops working. Okay. And, you know,

17:01

my mother is a psychoanalyst and she's taught

17:03

me for years that people who utilize

17:05

food as a coping mechanism or

17:08

a defense structure, this food is providing

17:10

them with something so significant that at

17:12

one time or another it meant their

17:14

psychological survival. So I'm going to say

17:16

if you're struggling on that level, take

17:19

the 800 bucks a month you would be spending on Ozimpic

17:21

and get a fantastic therapist to

17:23

help you work through it because you're going to be here in

17:25

68 to 72 weeks anyway. And

17:29

now you're all the way behind the 8-ball. So you think

17:31

it's about... it's in the mind.

17:34

You think you can cure this in the mind.

17:36

You said therapist. Well, I think

17:38

that it's twofold. So food

17:40

companies are absolutely addicting you

17:42

on a physiological level, but they're also

17:45

exploiting your psychological hungers. And the

17:47

truth of the matter is that

17:49

there's so much shame around this

17:51

because people who are overweight or

17:53

obese have experienced

17:55

discrimination for decades now.

17:58

So what happens is... So we then turn around and

18:00

we say, okay, what narrative is going to make

18:02

them feel the best? So big food says, ah,

18:05

we're going to push the anti-diet narrative

18:07

and you could be healthy at any

18:09

size, which is a message that actually

18:12

meant health equity. We should provide equal

18:14

access to health care for people at any size.

18:16

But now it's don't even worry,

18:18

go crazy, no food shame. Healthy at

18:21

any size. And then they will buy

18:23

off and register dieticians to get them

18:25

to say these things. And again, I've never

18:27

been a foodie, but it's not my vice.

18:30

But there is a connection with the

18:32

pot thing because when I smoke pot... You

18:34

want to eat? Oh.

18:38

I mean, not right away. First

18:43

it goes to my head. Okay. Then it goes to

18:46

my dick. And

18:49

then it goes to my stomach. And when it

18:51

goes to my stomach, I understand what it's like.

18:53

I mean, I really feel some part of it

18:55

with these people who can't stop eating because I

18:57

know I am ravenous, but I have a simple

18:59

solution. I don't keep shit in

19:01

the house. So I'll eat a lot, but

19:04

it's not terrible stuff. Anyway, we got to

19:06

get a good time out. This

19:08

is Julian Michaels. Very enlightening. Love you. We'll

19:10

see you after this. Okay.

19:13

Thank you. Let's meet our friend.

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Here is a full surprise running into the renowned room,

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and there was why John Meacham is here.

19:32

John? He's

19:36

an award-winning journalist and author of

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19:42

boy. Everybody

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has a book, and now I have

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over the last... It is available for

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committee instead will talk you on John. Thank you. You

19:56

gave me a blurb for this, and I appreciate it

19:58

very much. My pleasure. going to

20:00

be the same because of the

20:02

sale. Okay, shall we start with

20:04

the Trump trial? I

20:07

think it's a day. It's

20:09

years now since we started to say, boy, if

20:11

we can only stop talking about Donald Trump. And

20:16

that day just never comes. So let

20:18

me start with you as a historian because

20:20

it is unprecedented for a criminal trial, a

20:23

former president, and I definitely think

20:25

he should be tried for the one in Georgia

20:27

and the one for trying to overthrow the government

20:29

of the United States. Tell

20:34

me as a historian. Haven't presidents not

20:36

been put on trial in the past

20:39

for doing worse things than this one?

20:41

No, I don't think so. Offhand?

20:44

No. Nothing was worse than paying

20:46

hush money to Stormy Daniels? Well,

20:48

no president ever did. Anything worse?

20:50

I think it's quite as vivid

20:52

as that. I think that what

20:56

I have found this week to be somewhat

20:59

reassuring. He's sitting there.

21:02

He's obeying the rule of law. This

21:05

is below bar, okay? Right? But

21:08

you've got to get over it. And

21:12

it is actually the prosecutorial discretion.

21:14

The prosecutor brought the case. There's

21:18

a trial by jury unfolding, an ancient

21:21

right and check and balance, going back to

21:23

Magna Carta. Donald

21:26

Trump and Magna Carta are in the same sentence, tells

21:28

you something about 2024. But I

21:32

think this is the

21:34

beginning of accountability. Is this the one

21:36

you'd want to start with? No. But

21:39

you can't have everything you want. What

21:43

do you think as someone who's not from

21:45

our shores originally? I think a lot

21:48

of this is going to really come down to

21:50

how it's covered. As a journalist myself, I know

21:53

a lot of news organizations are still grappling with

21:55

how much do they give a podium to Donald

21:57

Trump. He steps out onto the steps. The

22:00

record and when to start speaking

22:02

is this essentially free Pr free

22:04

publicity in a month on above

22:06

and beyond campaign fundraising. I think

22:09

it's a very risky if they

22:11

lose this case. He owns. It

22:13

riddles hand him that sort. Of you

22:15

know martyrdom car because it probably will be

22:17

be only one we see this year. So

22:20

if you lose it, it's gonna look bad.

22:23

Then it's going to be held. a conquering hero and

22:25

mega land. Yep, it is, but

22:27

that doesn't mean you don't proceed. And

22:29

then of Lauer Trump was the daughter

22:32

in law's know how to the Or

22:34

Nc. She said the today it's four

22:36

years of scorched earth when Donald Trump

22:38

retake the White House. So there's that.

22:40

A lot. Better

22:43

about okay. Okay

22:49

I want to ask about his an

22:51

undeclared built bar Now built bar Not

22:53

Omar built bar with a. Veneer

22:56

on the show ended. He was or

22:58

twice former grooves the turning general under

23:00

Trump. As conservative as it gets, I

23:02

mean, he's You know, he's a. Mel.

23:05

Gibson's dad gas but I also

23:07

calls him one of a small

23:09

group who I call the good

23:11

as it gets republicans as is

23:14

what. I'm trying to convince my

23:16

liberal friends that you know half

23:18

the country's not gonna self report.

23:20

By we have to learn to live

23:23

together and people like Go Bar! Liz

23:25

Cheney, Mitt Romney, Mitch. Mcconnell.

23:28

Mike. Pence They all full throated. Li

23:30

said. Widen. Won that

23:32

election. Stop. The nonsense?

23:34

That's as good as it gets

23:36

in the Republican party. New, you

23:38

know? Okay, however, now Bill Bar

23:40

says he's voting for Trump. He

23:44

said, I think it's my duty to

23:46

pick the person I would do would

23:48

think would do the least harm to

23:50

the country. The real danger to democracy

23:52

is the progressive agenda. Trump may be

23:54

playing Russian roulette. With. A

23:56

continuation of Biden is

23:58

national suicide. I think this

24:00

is sincere. I don't think

24:02

he's posturing. I think this is what a

24:05

good part of this country believes.

24:08

Discuss. And

24:12

it is what a good part of the country believes.

24:14

It's also a good part of the

24:16

country's wrong about that, as

24:18

a rational matter. Now, politics

24:21

and rationality are not complete

24:24

bedfellows, which is part of the reason for

24:26

the Constitution, is that we're going

24:28

to give reason a chance to stand against passion.

24:31

What Barr is doing, and

24:33

what so many, I sometimes think of

24:35

him as the Peter Millar Republicans, right?

24:37

These are Republicans who are not full

24:39

MAGA people. They're mens grille types who

24:43

don't want Democrats picking judges

24:45

or setting tax rates. They

24:47

talked themselves into this twice, in 16 and

24:50

in 20. And

24:52

then came December and January of 2020 and

24:55

2021. And

24:58

at that point, I

25:00

believe, and I say this with care, that

25:03

it's become evident to me anyway,

25:05

that there's a patriotic duty to

25:08

support President Biden against Donald

25:10

Trump. For this reason,

25:12

patriotism is allegiance to an idea.

25:15

It's not just an allegiance to

25:17

your own kind. That's

25:19

nationalism. Trump is a nationalist.

25:22

President Biden is a patriot. And

25:25

I'm lucky in that I don't have particular

25:27

policy, or passions, particular

25:29

issues. I want the

25:32

constitutional order to continue to unfold. And

25:35

President Biden is devoted to that

25:38

constitutional order. Donald Trump

25:40

is self-evidently not. And

25:42

I would say to my Republican friends, and

25:44

I live in Tennessee, so that's redundant, that

25:49

it is, in fact, a moral

25:51

question. And I was

25:54

disappointed by what Barr said. He

25:58

got religion for a little while. There's

26:00

a line in Tom Sawyer where Twain

26:02

says that evangelists came through town who was

26:05

so good that even Huck Finn was saved

26:07

until Tuesday. You know,

26:09

Bill Barr was saved

26:11

until Tuesday. I

26:17

do wonder, again, we're talking as though this

26:20

was an inevitability that it would be these

26:22

two. I mean, more moderate conservatives who perhaps

26:24

feel a little bit more homeless than the

26:26

Republican Party might have been tempted to cross

26:28

over in the voter

26:30

base. They have now

26:32

been presented with this choice where

26:34

it was never an inevitability

26:37

that it would be these two men. What if

26:39

there had been a different option within the Democratic

26:41

Party? Well, what if, if

26:44

ifs, ands, and buts were candy and nuts,

26:46

we'd all have a Merry Christmas. Absolutely. But

26:48

this is what we have.

26:53

To me, the interesting thing about the Republican

26:55

Party is if you are,

26:57

in fact, going to put partisanship as

27:00

your central organizing principle, if

27:02

reflexive partisanship is the most important thing,

27:05

I would argue that you need to go

27:07

back and read George Washington's farewell address. You

27:09

need to read the founders that otherwise,

27:12

you know, they love. You know,

27:14

they love the founders when they sort of can move it

27:16

around to agree with them. It's very

27:18

clear that if party spirit became

27:21

the organizing principle, that that

27:23

was going to be fatal to the Constitution.

27:26

And it's very interesting when Barr said it's

27:28

suicide. I mean, the idea that President Biden's

27:30

leading us to national suicide, I'm not even

27:32

sure what he's talking about. But

27:34

Lincoln used that image in his first major speech

27:36

of the 1830s. He said, if

27:38

we ever fall, it's not going to be

27:41

from a foreign foe. It's going

27:43

to be from someone internally rising

27:45

up and mastering those passions. And

27:48

those passions about partisanship, that's

27:50

what's ruining it. think

28:00

they think we're going to hell in a hand

28:02

cart. And one reason

28:04

I think that is because the story that came

28:06

out this week about NPR. NPR

28:09

is to them what

28:11

this country would be if it

28:13

was a permanent democratic governorship.

28:16

And if you missed the story on NPR, it's

28:20

pretty interesting. A guy named Erry Berliner

28:22

came out. He'd been

28:24

there for a long time, 25 years. This

28:28

guy, by the way, went to Sarah

28:30

Lawrence and was raised by a lesbian

28:32

peace activist. So he's

28:34

very, very Sean Hannity. Well,

28:37

very Sean Hannity. He

28:41

said, I've been at NPR for 25 years. Here's

28:43

how we lost America's trust. And

28:46

it's just about how this place, which the

28:48

big show is called

28:51

All Things Considered, it's not

28:53

all things considered. He's not wrong. And

28:56

he pointed out, for example, that of the

28:58

87 people working in

29:00

editorial positions, they're 87 are Democrats.

29:04

Even if you're a Democrat, you can't

29:06

think this is good. I think

29:08

one of the saddest things about the

29:10

increasing row, the

29:13

NPR row is just the latest we've

29:15

seen also within the newsroom in the

29:17

New York Times. And there's really no

29:20

major news organization in the United

29:22

States that hasn't had some sort

29:24

of newsroom uprising or

29:26

critique. The saddest thing about this

29:28

is that he ended up quitting. And

29:31

back in the past, I don't know which

29:33

is better, what we have now, where people

29:36

go public and talk about these newsroom issues

29:38

and say, listen, there's not enough diversity of

29:40

opinion. There's way too much pushback. This is

29:42

not fair. Or in

29:44

the past, what we've seen over the years

29:47

is that people just quit. They'll leave one

29:49

news organization and gravitate towards another. And so

29:51

people just become siloed. And the newsrooms become

29:53

siloed and completely sort of tribal

29:55

in that way. And I think that's the saddest thing

29:58

to see that he had actually left. asked afterwards.

30:02

OK. So did you read the tweets

30:04

from the person who is, this never

30:06

happened before on the show, I have

30:08

a namesake in the news, Katherine Marr

30:10

is her name. I think that's how

30:13

she pronounces it, although I kind of wish

30:15

she pronounced it differently. And

30:19

Andrew Sullivan wrote a column today called Katherine Marr

30:21

is not a liberal and I agree. I

30:24

mean, she's a Portlandia character. I mean,

30:27

she says things like,

30:29

I'm sure, I mean,

30:31

sure, looting is counterproductive. But

30:37

it's founded on treating people's ancestors as

30:39

private property. Yeah, I mean, come on,

30:42

man, a long time ago. And I

30:44

mean, this is just she says, as someone

30:47

with cis white mobility privilege. I

30:50

mean, it's the kind of white woman who says, you know,

30:53

she's Beyonce spirit animal. I just

30:55

I I'm

31:02

going to continue this discussion and be I but

31:04

I have to take a break because we're on

31:06

CNN now. So I have to hit these marks.

31:09

So let's do the best piece. That was

31:12

that was swift. OK, so besides the

31:14

political implications with the Trump trial, we

31:16

learned this week again, or we're reminded,

31:19

I think, of something very important about

31:21

our civic responsibilities to try to get

31:23

out of jury duty. And

31:31

you

31:35

know, normally people can say, well, I'm a

31:37

caretaker, I have economic hardship. You have to

31:39

work a little. Trump, because it's Trump, it

31:41

was so easy for people to get out.

31:44

First of all, the judge right away said,

31:47

who has, you know, things

31:49

that can't be impartial? Lost half the crowd

31:51

immediately. OK, so

31:54

the other people, I mean, it's just with Trump,

31:56

it's just so ridiculously easy. Would you like to

31:58

hear some of the Excuse me,

32:01

I'll take you out. Uh, I... It's

32:05

not good. It's a conflict of interest. I also

32:07

sell my own Bible. Uh,

32:14

this woman said, I used to be a hooker in Moscow

32:16

when Trump peed on me. Well, I mean, you know, you

32:18

kids... Uh,

32:23

I never heard of this Trump dude, but he looks

32:25

guilty as fuck. This guy's here. Oh,

32:32

look at this. I'm already on another Trump jury. Uh,

32:40

I'm totally into this trial because it's the one where the

32:43

chick shits the bed, right? Now,

32:50

this guy really wanted to get out of this. He said, I'm

32:52

dating a cicada, and this will be our first time to fuck

32:54

in 17 years. I'm

33:01

still grieving over the death of O.J. Simpson.

33:03

Well... I'm full of

33:05

sex. That's not a good answer, all right? Uh...

33:09

If Trump goes to jail, I don't get deported,

33:11

right? I

33:17

can't serve. I'm chained up in Pete Denny's house.

33:25

And, uh, Dad, it's me, Tiffany. Okay.

33:30

Okay. But

33:32

let me go back to NVR for a second, because this... I

33:35

was reading this in their workplace. He

33:37

said race and identity became paramount in nearly every aspect of

33:39

our workplace. And

33:42

she fired back and then had her own views on that. But

33:45

I think reading today what went on there, they

33:49

had groups within NVR, MIGAPOC, Marginalized

33:51

Genders and Intersex People of Color

33:53

Program. Mijante,

34:00

the Latinx employees at NPR.

34:03

NPR Noire, that's the black

34:06

employees. Ummah, for Muslim identifying

34:08

employees. Come on.

34:11

You know, like Trump divides us. Yes, he

34:13

does. But you're doing it too. Why

34:16

do we need to do this? Well,

34:19

you're right about understanding why

34:21

people are supporting

34:24

Trump no matter what. And

34:26

the people who should know better, we can

34:28

sort of agree. Are doing

34:30

it as well. And to me,

34:33

you have to take them seriously. But

34:36

just because they believe something doesn't mean

34:38

it's right. And so,

34:41

for instance, I had a conversation with

34:43

a Republican whose name you would know,

34:45

who said, yeah, January 6th was

34:47

terrible, but you know, Biden wants to forgive

34:50

student loans, and that's unconstitutional too. And

34:53

it's like, you're just, that's not

34:55

a commensurate response to

34:57

what we're dealing with. There is an illiberal force,

35:00

and that's Trump and Trumpism. And

35:03

there is a conventional political one that

35:05

has necessary fall, I

35:07

mean, necessary imperfections, because it's an

35:10

imperfect world. But this

35:12

is, to me, this is not even really a

35:14

particularly close call. And people who

35:17

think that President Biden is

35:19

going to somehow create Esperanto

35:22

as a country, I

35:25

just don't see it. I don't understand. But

35:27

that's not what this was about. I feel

35:29

like you're making a point that's absolutely accurate, but

35:32

you're not engaging with the idea that they're

35:34

presenting. Can I, let

35:36

me read what Andrew Sullivan said

35:38

about it. He said, this marathon,

35:40

this marination in identity politics, now

35:42

common in mainstream media, changes people.

35:45

It makes journalists representatives of various

35:48

groups. I do

35:50

think that that is something that you

35:52

can't overstate how much that does

35:55

really, really put off voters. I

35:57

understand that when we look at all of the issues.

36:00

issues, that, you know, Democratic issues and,

36:02

you know, January 6th election denial, these

36:04

are hugely important. But I think that

36:06

there's also on the left a massive

36:09

underestimating of how much this puts

36:11

people off, how much it

36:13

really frightens them away. It's a

36:16

real own goal, I think, for a lot of

36:18

Democrats, like the more extreme progressive elements that I

36:20

think there's a tendency for the rest of the

36:22

party to just sort of dismiss and say, well,

36:24

you know, I mean, that's just a part of

36:26

who we are. This is the people on the

36:28

bridge who are protesting

36:30

for terrorists, okay? I

36:33

think this is a result of the

36:35

kind of stuff that flows down from

36:37

places like NPR and college Well,

36:40

people on the bridge would say they're protesting for a ceasefire. Well,

36:43

okay, but, you know, you've got to sort of

36:45

take sides. We started out with this with, okay,

36:47

we're for Hamas. That

36:51

was — okay, but that was the beginning of it,

36:53

and a lot of people were unapologetic about that. And

36:55

it went to, you know, the kids, they dug up

36:57

some of bin Laden's old quotes, and

37:00

they were like, oh, that's down. He's

37:02

got some good things to say. He hates America, too. Because

37:05

you know, we're all — I mean, everybody

37:07

knows we're the worst country ever. I

37:10

mean, okay, now we're at the place where

37:12

they're chanting some places, death to America, and

37:14

now we went — now we're for the

37:16

Houthis. Now with the

37:18

Iran attack, they're for Hezbollah. Okay,

37:21

do they know what goes on in Iran?

37:23

John, you're a historian. Could you please tell

37:25

these kids they're being huge assholes? The

37:36

question in the election is going to be,

37:39

do you — I think making a

37:42

false equivalence between the extreme of the right

37:44

and the extreme of — I think it's

37:47

a false equivalence with the worst parts of

37:49

what the right's doing and the parts of

37:51

the left because of what the

37:53

actual choice is. It is, but it's not

37:56

winning any votes, or it's not convincing anybody.

37:58

It's not engaging with — want them to

38:00

do? What do you want? I want to win an

38:02

election. I understand that. And that doesn't happen by just

38:04

going, you guys, I agree

38:06

with you. I know. They are worse. I

38:09

think you have to address the part that

38:12

they're not getting, that they're

38:14

not seeing. And that doesn't happen by, you

38:16

know, academically saying, well, you know, according to

38:18

the Constitution, they want you to address this

38:20

kind of stuff. And I think

38:23

it begins with admitting, yes, some of it is crazy. Some

38:26

of it just strikes me as crazy, too.

38:28

And it is counterproductive. And I don't like

38:30

it when I see college kids who

38:32

don't understand anything about history. And somehow,

38:34

now the Jews are the Nazis. I

38:37

know kids love to switch things up.

38:39

Hey, this is different. Jews,

38:42

the Nazis now? Hey, it's different. That means

38:44

it's automatically better. On

38:47

the college kids, though, on this, because this is a, you

38:49

know, in terms of a freedom speech

38:51

on college campuses, this has been a hot

38:53

button political topic for years, especially because conservative

38:56

voices have been

38:58

very much so marginalized on college

39:00

campuses. You know, people,

39:02

young people, or those who are

39:04

tagging along on protests and saying

39:07

anti-Semitic things and racist things and

39:09

really stupid things about supporting groups

39:11

that they don't understand are rightly

39:14

criticized. But there are students, you

39:16

know, like in Columbia, who were

39:18

protesting peacefully, who were, you know,

39:21

setting up an encampment and doing peaceful protests.

39:24

In the country of the college. Columbia University.

39:26

And being arrested. And I

39:29

think it's worth, like, we have to have

39:31

a conversation about free speech, you know, being

39:33

something that should be a bipartisan issue. I

39:36

mean, I see a lot of conservatives who

39:38

quite rightly criticized very, very liberal progressive college

39:40

campuses for saying, you know, if you had

39:42

had a protest on that lawn saying,

39:45

you know, we don't want transgender people who

39:47

will, you know, ought to be allowed to

39:49

partake in women's sports, would that have been

39:52

allowed to take place? And then that would

39:54

have been a freedom of speech issue potentially

39:56

for them. So I do think that, like, right

39:58

now in America, you know, you. You can't really just,

40:01

it can't be freedom of speech when I agree with

40:03

what people are saying. Hate speech, totally

40:05

different things. Right. I thought it was

40:07

very interesting that in the questions that they asked the potential

40:09

jurors in the Trump trial, one of the

40:12

main ones was what media do you listen to?

40:14

What do you watch? What do you take in? Because

40:17

that's the whole ballgame now. All you got

40:19

to do is tell them what you listen to and they,

40:22

oh, that's who you are. And it

40:24

didn't used to be that way. I mean, 50 years

40:26

ago you could have said, oh, I watched Walter Cronkite

40:28

and it wouldn't have gotten you thrown off of any

40:30

trial because it wouldn't have indicated anything about you. I

40:33

watched Johnny Carson. Although nowadays less and

40:35

less people are watching any of the shows. It

40:38

would be a lot of the young people are

40:40

going online. It's a return. The

40:43

period you're talking about, the Cronkite, sort

40:45

of New York Times, Washington Post, powers

40:47

the B period, was the exception in

40:49

American history, not the rule. We

40:51

had a partisan press starting with

40:54

Jefferson and Hamilton battling it out

40:56

and it helped give us the Civil War. So

40:59

it's not a fabulous way to

41:01

go about it. It's

41:04

absolutely true that, and I think

41:06

this is a choice a lot of us are making,

41:08

whether we want to admit it or not, and

41:11

this goes to our food choices to some

41:13

extent. If broccoli tasted good,

41:16

there would be drive-throughs where you could buy broccoli.

41:22

If you wanted to stop by the news

41:24

hour and pick up some vegetables, that

41:26

would be fine. They would taste delicious. Instead,

41:30

getting a Frosty and a burger over

41:33

on a partisan network is

41:35

a guilty pleasure. And

41:37

people love being automatic

41:40

warriors every day. And

41:42

when politics becomes total war every day,

41:44

which is entirely the Trump vision of

41:46

the world, he said that. He

41:49

said, I want the presidency to be like a

41:51

reality show. Every day is an episode. When

41:54

politics becomes entirely about entertainment, then

41:57

we're in a particularly perilous place.

42:00

And that's pretty much where we are.

42:02

And I agree with you. We just have to get enough

42:05

people in the right states, because of

42:08

the weirdness of the Constitution, to

42:10

say, you know what, this

42:12

is the least bad option. This

42:15

constitutional order is worth defending.

42:17

And I do not want to

42:20

live in Trumpistan. I would rather live

42:22

in the United States. All

42:25

the way off of that, I think,

42:31

I wonder how possible that's going to be

42:33

after the Democratic Convention, which is in Chicago

42:35

this year, coming up very quickly. And

42:37

I was 12 years old when they had it in 1968 in Chicago.

42:41

It was like my baptism into politics, like, wow,

42:43

this is kind of interesting shit going on on

42:45

TV. I know this

42:47

is politics, but because there was hippies in

42:49

the streets and the cops were beating the

42:52

shit out of them. I mean, it was

42:54

really quite dramatic. And it's going to happen

42:56

again, because the kids are going to be

42:58

out there in forest chanting about genocide

43:00

Joe, because this is their new

43:02

cause now. This, they think,

43:04

is the cause of their lifetime, Hamas, to

43:06

be on their side. So I'm

43:09

just wondering how the Democrats are going to come out

43:11

of that convention, because I remember the last time that

43:13

happened in Chicago, they got bloodied by

43:15

it, and Nixon won the White House. And

43:17

you know who won 13.5% of the vote? George

43:20

Wallace. George Wallace. And

43:22

Humphrey lost by basically a point. And

43:27

the fact that we didn't fall apart in 1968 is

43:30

a really interesting question. Dr. King

43:32

is murdered, Senator Kennedy is murdered, Chicago.

43:35

And Wallace, on an explicitly segregationist platform, wins

43:37

13.5% of the vote and

43:40

carries five states in the electoral college 20 minutes

43:43

ago, historically. Okay. I have

43:45

one last question. Jane, last time you were here, we were

43:47

talking about how you got punched in the face on the

43:49

subway. Now I see

43:52

in the paper. It's trending. Actually,

43:58

it's a thing now. Okay,

44:00

I have one minute. What the fuck? What's

44:03

your theory? What's

44:05

the theory? Why are men randomly

44:08

punching women? And

44:12

increasingly it's coming out because

44:14

a lot of the people that

44:16

they're punching are influencers, you know? So the first thing

44:18

they do is immediately go on their phone and say,

44:20

oh my goodness, look what just happened. And

44:22

they should be turning the phone around and

44:24

like chasing them down, you know, and saying,

44:26

is it one person? Is it a group

44:28

of people? It's a very New York thing. Well,

44:34

that's why I moved. But

44:37

why influencers? They're particularly obnoxious? Is

44:39

that why? Is that really what's

44:41

behind this? Honestly, it might

44:43

simply be that there are so many women

44:45

getting punched and that statistically there are also

44:47

so many influencers out there these days. Oh

44:50

my God. Okay. Well, it's a crazy country.

44:52

Thank you for shedding some light on it.

44:54

Time for new rules, everybody. Okay.

45:05

New rule, the non-binary Ontario man

45:08

who last week succeeded in his

45:10

quest to get the government to

45:12

pay for gender-affirming surgery that

45:15

would create a new vagina while not

45:17

removing the old penis. Must

45:20

tell us, are you a former boy scout?

45:31

Because talk about always being prepared. You

45:37

can't hate the Brazilian woman who wields a

45:39

dead man into a bank and tried to

45:41

make his hand sign the paperwork for a

45:43

loan. Although

45:46

it works for Joe Biden. New

45:55

rule, since Donald Trump claims he stormed out

45:58

of his latest trial, he didn't. Yes,

46:00

to admit he fell asleep. And

46:04

dreamt about storming out. He

46:15

must tell us what he was dreaming about, or I'll

46:17

just have to assume it was jerking off two

46:19

guys at once. Alright. Thank you. Thank

46:23

you. Thank

46:25

you. Every week.

46:28

Every week, fellas. Uh,

46:32

new rule, if your last name is Methvin,

46:35

don't name... Don't

46:37

name your daughter Crystal. This

46:43

is Crystal Methvin. Who

46:46

was arrested, of course, in Florida.

46:51

For, of course, using Crystal Meth,

46:53

and she was with her friend

46:55

Mary Joanna. And

47:04

to make matters worse, they tried to hide the drugs

47:07

in Ann Heiser's bush. There were

47:09

a lot of... Speaking of Mary Joanna, in honor of 420, this... In

47:22

honor of 420 this weekend, it's time

47:24

to stop putting getting high sequences in

47:26

TV and movies written by someone who

47:29

has obviously never smoked pot. Every

47:32

time a character lights up a joint, suddenly

47:34

the world turns into Willy Wonka land. Hi,

47:39

I'm Bill Maher, and I'm a... Hi,

47:50

I'm Bill Maher, and I'm a professional

47:52

marijuana smoker. Asking

47:55

you to help with a growing problem. Harmful

47:58

stoner stereotypes. Too

48:00

often in media, marijuana smokers are

48:02

portrayed as lazy, dead-eyed dullards with

48:05

hygiene issues who can barely

48:07

dress themselves and form sentences, and it's just

48:09

not true. We're your neighbors who

48:11

don't have a job, and so what are your plans

48:13

when you're out of town? We're

48:17

the barista at your neighborhood coffee place, getting

48:19

your order wrong. We're

48:22

the guy from Boeing, finding

48:24

bolts in his pockets and

48:27

going, Where did these come

48:29

from? We're

48:32

the light blood of this nation. That's why

48:35

I'm asking you this 420 to give to the United

48:37

Stoners Fund and end

48:39

discrimination against weed smokers in our lifetime. The

48:41

United Stoners Fund. Because

48:43

a mind is a terrible thing when it's not wasted.

48:55

And finally, as one of the few

48:57

people in the public eye who's gone through life and never

48:59

had kids, someone has to tell

49:01

me, Why am I always having to defend them?

49:06

I don't even like kids. But

49:08

I also think it's every adult's job to

49:10

protect them. Have

49:12

you all been watching the Max

49:14

documentary called Quiet On Set, the

49:17

dark side of kids' TV? OMG.

49:23

Nickelodeon? It wasn't a studio. It was

49:25

Neverland Ranch with craft services. It

49:36

is just scene after scene,

49:38

clip after clip, of

49:41

the child stars of their day

49:43

being subjected to obviously

49:45

inappropriate, highly sexualized degradation and

49:47

quite a few pickles going

49:49

through glory holes. I was

49:54

grossed out and I've gone camping with John Waters. So

50:05

I don't know if this documentary is

50:07

the talk of your town, but it

50:09

is out here because it didn't just

50:11

expose a dangerous workplace. It also exposed

50:13

hypocrisy, because it must be

50:15

pointed out that when the evil governor

50:17

of Florida was saying the

50:20

exact same thing about kids and creepy

50:22

stuff at Disney that liberals

50:24

now find intolerable at Nickelodeon, he

50:27

was dismissed as a hick and a bigot. But why

50:30

would a kids' content factory like

50:32

Disney be all that different than the

50:34

one at Nickelodeon? A 2014 CNN

50:37

report discovered that at least 35

50:40

Disney employees had been arrested for sex

50:42

crimes against children, and in 2021, Disney

50:46

child star Alison Stoner confessed

50:48

she only narrowly survived the

50:50

toddler to train wreck pipeline.

50:52

The next year, child star Cold

50:54

Sprouse told The New York Times that

50:57

young actresses at the Disney Channel were

50:59

heavily sexualized from an early age. You

51:03

know, Willie Sutton said he robbed banks because

51:05

that's where the money is. And the reason

51:07

we find pedophiles in the Boy Scouts and

51:09

the Rectory and Kids TV is

51:11

that's where the kids are. DeSantis

51:15

wasn't wrong. But we're so

51:17

tribal now, the left will

51:19

overlook child fucking if the guy from

51:22

the wrong party calls it out. Sure,

51:25

Nickelodeon messed up a man to binds,

51:27

but the Mickey Mouse Club was where

51:29

Britney Spears got her started. She's perfectly

51:31

fine. And

51:42

get this, after Brian Peck, who was

51:44

one of the lead creeps at Nickelodeon,

51:47

served 16 months in prison

51:49

for the molesting he did there, Disney

51:52

hired him, naturally, to work

51:54

on a children's series. For

51:56

pedophiles in Hollywood, it's a small world

51:58

after all. And

52:07

not just Hollywood. There are Instagram

52:09

moms these days who are practically

52:11

only fansing their itty-bitty

52:14

beauty queen daughters by having them

52:16

wear skimpy bikinis and eat bananas

52:18

to build social media stardom. They're

52:21

called shrenters, a

52:23

hybrid of sharing

52:26

and parent. I

52:28

call them pimps,

52:31

a hybrid of

52:34

pimp and sss.

52:36

People who believe in social justice have agreed

52:39

this is wrong and this is bad in

52:41

exposing kids to an adult world of lurid

52:43

costumes and garish makeup borders on abuse. Now

52:45

hurry up and get in the car. We're

52:48

late for drag queen story hour. Not

52:57

that there's anything wrong with being a

52:59

drag queen but maybe it's time to

53:01

admit that sometimes drag queen

53:03

story hour is more for the queen

53:05

than the kids. Sure

53:08

kids love a clown but does the clown

53:10

have to have tits? And

53:20

when I see a five-year-old tipping,

53:23

tipping at a bar

53:25

under a sign that says it's not

53:27

gonna lick itself, do

53:29

I have to pretend that's cool in order

53:31

to keep my liberal ID card? Sorry

53:34

I can't do that. If

53:36

you want kids to be more tolerant why

53:38

not have handicapped people read them stories? Kids

53:41

are more likely to encounter disabled people than

53:43

drag queens in life. Jeez

53:45

can't we just go back to the good

53:47

old days when kids were read simple stories

53:49

with simple morals like if

53:51

you're a lonely single man just make a boy out

53:53

of wood. I've

54:05

said it before, wokeness is not

54:07

an extension of liberalism anymore. It's

54:09

more often taking something so far

54:12

that it becomes the opposite. Teaching

54:15

kids not to hate or judge those

54:17

who are different, great, proud we got

54:19

there, all for that. But

54:21

at a certain point, inclusion

54:24

becomes promotion. And

54:26

contrary to current progressive dogma,

54:29

children aren't miniature adults wise beyond

54:31

their years, they're morons. They're

54:42

gullible morons who'll believe anything and just

54:45

want to please grown-ups. And they don't

54:47

have any frame of reference, so they

54:50

normalize whatever's happening. That's why

54:52

endlessly talking about gender to

54:54

six-year-olds isn't just inappropriate. It's

54:56

what the law would call

54:58

entrapment, which

55:00

means enticing people into doing something

55:03

they wouldn't ordinarily do. For

55:05

example, after 9-11, there were several cases of

55:08

overzealous federal agents leading sad

55:10

losers into terrorist plots, like

55:14

the undercover FBI agent who got seven

55:16

out-of-work dudes in Liberty City, Florida to

55:18

sign onto a plot to bomb the

55:21

Sears Tower in Chicago. Oh, please, these

55:23

guys didn't even have a gun. When

55:26

someone said, wouldn't it be cool if we

55:29

taught the man a lesson and blew something

55:31

up, they said, yeah, that would be kind of

55:33

cool. Entrapment,

55:36

suggesting someone into something they wouldn't

55:38

otherwise do. And if you think

55:40

that some of that isn't going

55:42

on with gender in schools, you're

55:44

not watching enough TikTok videos. I pledge allegiance

55:47

to the queers. I'm not allowed

55:49

to be out as trans on

55:51

binary at school. My response to

55:54

this is to be as obnoxiously

55:57

queer as possible.

56:01

There's a certain kind of activist

56:03

these days who wants to

56:05

take heterosexuality, old school, old

56:08

fashion, boring, minding its own

56:10

business heterosexuality, and lump

56:12

it in with patriarchy and sexism and

56:14

racism and tell kids, wouldn't

56:16

it be cool if you were

56:18

anything but that? It also

56:21

seems to be the theme of kind

56:23

of a lot of kids' books these days.

56:27

I never used the phrase gay agenda because

56:29

I thought it was mostly nonsense, and it

56:31

is, mostly. But

56:34

a director for Disney Television Animation

56:36

did say after she was hired,

56:39

The showrunners were super welcoming to like

56:41

my like not at all secret gay

56:43

agenda. Like I was just wherever I

56:45

could just basically adding queerness. No one

56:47

would stop me and no one was

56:49

trying to stop me. Look,

56:52

I'm all for adding queerness wherever. I

56:54

put some in my drink before I came out here tonight.

57:05

But maybe we should think about giving kids

57:07

a break from our culture wars for a

57:09

minute, or at least until the election is

57:11

over. All right, thank you very much

57:13

everybody. That sounds strong. I

57:15

bet the Texas theater in Salt Lake

57:17

City, April 21st, to Palace in Albany, May

57:20

19th, and at the David Copperfield at the

57:22

MGM Grand in Vegas June 21 and 22.

57:25

Thank you John, Meek, Jane, Ferguson, and

57:27

Jillian Michaels. Now go to overtime on

57:29

YouTube. Thank you very much folks.