0:00

Hey Rob yeah he'll tell our listeners are

0:02

really exciting news. We are going on tour

0:04

Island Work going on tour week. Do you

0:06

have a name for the tour? Are we

0:08

calling it the sequel to are you calling

0:10

it The Kebab in the Meatball Tour? This

0:12

and we didn't name the tour. I think

0:15

it's kind of the working title Robbie and

0:17

Ellen Solve the Case Live Tour which sounds

0:19

kind of boring we should come up with

0:21

any more exciting but right now I'm mostly

0:23

is what I'm changing it. Right now it's

0:25

called the Kebab and the Meatball to are.

0:27

So now we're going to or ravi tell

0:29

them. Wherever and awaken. Oh I'm so excited! Well

0:32

we're starting off when the East coast. We're going

0:34

to be in Philadelphia on April fifteenth and then

0:36

you work on April sixteenth. Then we're going to

0:38

fly across the country and will be in L

0:40

A on April Thirtieth, San Francisco on May first,

0:42

and Portland, Oregon on May eight. It is gonna

0:44

be so fun and we have a Chicago date

0:46

in there as well. Went a little break and

0:49

we've been. We've the center the sort of going

0:51

to Nashville July third and will have an amazing

0:53

guess they're I'm so excited about Nashville and will

0:55

be up in Chicago and that's it for the

0:57

tour for now. but we've got more dates come

0:59

and go. Ahead and go to our social

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as you can find us on Instagram at

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1:12

We're going to be doing a case with

1:14

a guest just like we do on our

1:16

regular format talk show. It is going to

1:18

be fine and informative. It is a really

1:21

interesting case. This is a case that I

1:23

have wanted to cover for so long and

1:25

Robbie of finally said allen, why don't you

1:27

do this for the live show So we

1:29

are. It's a case that Ellen snatched out

1:31

of the hands of celebrity. Guess who wanted to

1:33

do it You that? Nope, that's my case. The

1:36

yeah, but now we can't wait to see you

1:38

somewhere across the country. Get your tickets today and

1:40

will see you soon. Onto the show. And.

1:51

I didn't. I rather yeah, how are you

1:53

and your all dressed up for the Solar

1:56

Eclipse today? Do you know I just put

1:58

this on my tic toc. I. Not been

2:00

paying attention that a solar eclipse. I sort of have

2:02

been sick for the past couple days. Is it the

2:04

rapture? I don't know what's happening. I put it on

2:07

my tic toc and I just said what is happening

2:09

My friend Barry is my which friend was like you're

2:11

gonna be fine so she says I'm fine saw me

2:13

to be fine so I don't know what the big

2:15

hopeless all about. I think the only real danger here

2:17

because I mean I see like every time there's an

2:20

eclipse. any kind of eclipse. You always hear the

2:22

people with the Doomsday so saying. Well, this is

2:24

a sign that was predicted by Nostradamus. Like to

2:26

see the hundred Years ago rather. Die fighting. The

2:28

only real danger is idiots list look and write

2:31

about it. You know that Solar eclipse glasses and

2:33

desert and one of those idiots I actually minutes

2:35

and find myself to my house is as I

2:37

know is I am outside at that time I

2:40

will not be able to not look up. Let's

2:42

all hope I will be doing it. Have you

2:44

ever attacked with gorillas? That was the most random

2:46

question. okay probably not much what I went to

2:48

real attracting in Rwanda. Holy crap No I've not

2:51

done that. We tracked the gorillas. You know you

2:53

go with guides and the rule is you don't

2:55

muck a silverback in the eye and it's like

2:57

of rules. You don't look a silver members

3:00

that Night Owl and Seek has. It's

3:02

a challenge. Is Sam right? My ex

3:04

husband was like I if all of

3:06

them rotten. the I felt like there

3:08

was one study author made it all

3:10

back in the I. Put I put

3:12

a just looked him. In. The I I was like

3:14

right now are dead and I didn't think

3:16

the thing that someone says when someone says

3:18

don't look over there and you go whack

3:20

your that friend If I were to be

3:22

like Rob I don't turn around you'd be

3:24

like to sit at a foot jail. But

3:26

I'm literally like I looked at the exact

3:28

timing. Here in Maryland is gonna start a

3:30

tool for Pm and and by for thirty

3:32

three. So for that two and a half

3:34

hours I am going to lock myself. In

3:36

Doors Close The blinds because I do

3:39

Not trust my dumb ass. Yeah, I

3:41

don't trust you either And we have a

3:43

life so sex so. Show

3:48

in New York and Philly. Robbie

3:50

I'm gonna tell them what we're

3:52

covering. I assume that site as

3:54

for our lives, shall we are

3:56

covering? The. Gas that conspiracies

3:58

the rounds and. Our thoughts

4:00

on Whitney Houston new? Yep. Have

4:02

you'll notice in the social that

4:04

been using wouldn't used to music.

4:07

I. Feel like we put it to

4:09

rest too? Soon and how on

4:11

this planet that we all reside,

4:13

do a mother and daughter to

4:15

die in the exact same way?

4:17

Give me another way other than

4:20

something like cancer or heart attack.

4:22

Can you think of anything? This

4:24

isn't a challenge. I want someone

4:26

to prove me wrong that a

4:28

mother and daughter died in the

4:31

same very obscure way. While I'll

4:33

say this, I still haven't done

4:35

much of a dive into it.

4:37

And so I do think. For

4:40

example, if there's a suicide the family

4:42

there is more the likelihood of the

4:44

children of that person or somebody close

4:46

at person might also and their life

4:48

in the summer way. I hide that

4:50

this young accident I told you I

4:52

agree or substance use disorder or something

4:54

genetic but I mean a freak. Accident

4:56

and this gonna whispers is are using the

4:59

might be two murders and happened here. I'm

5:01

saying you need to come see our

5:03

lives South I'm looking for Do It!

5:05

This is an with us in New

5:07

York and Philly is none other than

5:10

one of my other podcasts house and

5:12

one of the best damn podcast earth

5:14

wittiest mines out there Tony award winner

5:16

Daisy and will be joining us for

5:18

both shows for Oliver Other shows we

5:21

will have other guess but I am

5:23

so excited because it's gonna be our

5:25

normal format where we said we give

5:27

a crash course of lives so you're

5:29

gonna get a little. Bit of a pre

5:32

show that Robbie and I have planned what a

5:34

plan, Rob, yeah, I got a couple a bit

5:36

said I've put together with the help. Our friend

5:38

Tanner Werner who I love, So much think

5:40

this must had a but I'll say

5:43

this he does Bet yes Was clear

5:45

we're on the main feed. Robbie had

5:47

surgery after a couple years of working

5:50

with me. she does. I didn't even

5:52

know what a bit was until I

5:54

heard you use that terminology. Putting

5:56

together the Atlanta show I'm like, okay,

5:59

remember that word. It doesn't exist

6:01

in the legal lexicon right bit

6:03

of a word we use in

6:05

our our Venn diagram over the

6:07

years. Rob Yeah cause we've been

6:09

working together now from a C

6:11

area. Yeah unless you are venn

6:13

diagram in the middle that is

6:15

see twins in the middle their

6:17

that says ah term or x

6:19

to work. What is the number

6:21

one saying that you have taken

6:23

away and learned from working with

6:25

me and I will do the

6:27

same for Yeah Oh my god

6:29

I'm. While it's not about not using

6:31

i'm that's we can cross off the less

6:34

for sure aren't as a number one thing

6:36

I'll my sexual innuendoes. I have learned a

6:38

lot I have learned. oh I thought that

6:40

since you're gonna say I have learned a

6:43

lot of sexual innuendoes that here's what I

6:45

do whenever I hear them I think I

6:47

gotta remember that has really funny and also

6:49

it's making these deeply uncomfortable with the names

6:51

my my brain actually automatically deletes them they

6:54

just roll off your tongue the has to

6:56

do things like bologna and every know kinds

6:58

of of the the food related items. I'm

7:00

downright know but when I will say is like

7:02

one of the greatest gifts have gotten actually is

7:04

the gift of of my new friend brian. Said

7:08

we thought. About that though it less yeah

7:10

I brought it on. How it gets a

7:12

I'm Ryan is have a friend that Ellen

7:14

introduced some Jets examples of Ryan or just

7:17

leave it at that. but let's see what

7:19

else I mean I know I I overnight

7:21

at Brian to rob ya sabian. tell me

7:23

what she needed an ice that brian to

7:25

our house within twelve to sixteen hours and

7:27

one of the largest brown bosses. I've ever

7:30

seen. I did not expect Ryan's be. The

7:32

has T V or welcome.

7:34

Do you know when I

7:36

added this podcast the way

7:38

you say uncomfortable is uncomfortable

7:40

Like a symphony. Say uncomfortable

7:42

uncomfortable as a uncomfortable. Oh

7:44

you say uncomfortable. Yes I

7:46

pronounce every syllable and the

7:48

word he. It's like. Oh

7:54

man I love it's well. welcome everyone. I've

7:56

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8:43

as well. I have to documentaries we need

8:45

to watch with our community. Was gonna say

8:47

ones earnest was party to ready. Yeah we

8:49

need to do one probably after our lives

8:51

as okay. We'll probably have to do a

8:53

catch up but I want to watch that

8:55

one called the Program School I heard about.

8:58

That's what is it about two bottles like.

9:00

Boarding schools that Paris Hilton has come

9:02

out talking about. I really want to

9:04

watch itself. You haven't. Between

9:07

to get a few. Did.

9:11

You watch me I was from the that

9:13

oh that said nickelodeon one of the idea

9:15

of the odds and I have heard about

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the i don't have a chat about it

9:19

we also need to do is the him

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Anyway we're all about building community over there

9:24

so head on over there but without further

9:26

ado let's get to our about the A

9:28

crime stories for the week they go first.

9:30

Eleanor's. Weapon ago First first.

9:32

Because I have a bit of

9:34

an update. but it started as

9:36

an update and as I started

9:38

researching. It actually turned. More into

9:41

a new story. It was a story

9:43

that I kind of didn't let go

9:45

of, but I gave a very brief

9:48

update because I thought that's all there

9:50

was to report. I reported a couple

9:52

weeks ago about the tragic end of

9:55

a young man on a fraternity trip

9:57

in Nashville from Missouri. He went missing

9:59

out. Being kicked out of a

10:01

local bar from being too intoxicated.

10:03

Remember, I brought you the story

10:05

of Riley Strain Rob? Yeah, yeah,

10:07

of course him and he was

10:09

later found in the river. Deceased

10:12

Now despite authorities saying there was

10:14

no foul play involved. And the

10:16

toxicology reports are not back yet

10:18

and they won't be back for

10:20

about six to twelve weeks. Some

10:22

details of the preliminary report have

10:24

raised some questions and I have

10:26

some further questions after that that

10:28

I really wanna get your feedback.

10:30

On the complete autopsy is

10:32

not available see coroner. Was

10:34

able to very comfortably say

10:36

something that through the family

10:38

for a loop because the

10:40

corner went on record saying

10:43

that there was a quote

10:45

lack of water in his

10:47

lungs When there is no

10:49

water in the lungs, it

10:51

usually means that the person

10:53

was. Deceased before were saying the water

10:55

right for the right of the. Water out

10:58

her as it gets. I did a

11:00

little research because I am me and

11:02

there is something called to Ride Drowning.

11:04

Have you ever heard of this? I

11:06

have heard this. I know it's extremely

11:08

rare. I don't know how it operates

11:10

but I have her that it is

11:12

extremely rare. Now it's report in some

11:15

web sites on some things online. Now

11:17

I now the delaying things don't count

11:19

for research Robbie I am. I wasn't

11:21

able to call any doctors to confirm

11:23

this, but I will say both numbers

11:25

that I researched. I read ten. To

11:27

fifteen percent. but I also read

11:29

some people that say it's about two

11:32

to five percent of drowning victims up

11:34

sweet, don't aspirate water. That's what a

11:36

dry drowning is to than what kills

11:39

them there in water what happens is

11:41

something like with their lyrics close

11:43

and doesn't actually let the water new.

11:45

They're not as breeding the water but

11:48

there's a suffocating his are not getting

11:50

air of right? So a couple things

11:52

that I want to tell you that

11:55

were found and then a couple

11:57

things that made my ears. Perk up

11:59

on level bet. The was found with

12:01

his watch and his shirt but

12:03

he did not have clothes from

12:05

the waist down and that was

12:07

including his cowboy boots. To think

12:09

some people say with regular current

12:11

movement those things could have fallen

12:13

off cowboy boots I have a

12:16

hard time wrapping my head around

12:18

and are no, I feel like

12:20

sneakers or something would have more

12:22

aptly come off for his celts

12:24

was the most certainly on that

12:26

night. But something else to think

12:28

about is sometimes when. People are

12:30

suffering from hypothermia. They will sell

12:33

their clothing. remember we talked about

12:35

this and the a little Lamb

12:37

case he of yeah where they

12:39

think their body is high attack

12:42

sell. Those facts are interesting On

12:44

April fifth I don't know what

12:46

took this couple so long but

12:48

here we are a couple. Keep

12:51

forward and said that they saw

12:53

Riley Strain walking down the street

12:55

and they said to him you're

12:57

not driving are you in He.

13:00

Said quote i can't even

13:02

walk straight and it was

13:04

definitely why these strange not

13:06

strange at that moment. Was

13:08

on the phone with his

13:10

paternity brothers and they were

13:12

saying which park Some people

13:14

think he said which park

13:16

and some people think he

13:18

said where was it park

13:20

You listen to that audio

13:22

with see a police officer

13:24

that I played and you

13:26

listen with it with headphones

13:28

you can hear. Some other

13:30

interesting things not definitely conclusive

13:33

that it is Riley's but

13:35

it sounds like he's looking

13:37

for a parked car. Let

13:39

me tell you the last

13:41

thing that isn't massing for

13:43

me and I really want

13:45

the people in the chat

13:47

and you'd away in. I

13:49

have a scoured the internet,

13:51

tic toc, instagram, google. None

13:54

of his doubts had high

13:56

have said a single fucking

13:58

word. Not a picture. Not.

14:00

A memorial, Not a

14:02

plea for help, not

14:04

anything. Furthermore, after Friday

14:06

went missing, those brothers

14:09

did not conduct or

14:11

contribute or take part

14:13

in any kind of

14:15

search. They didn't flyer

14:17

dell to tie, didn't

14:19

offer a reward them

14:21

back to Missouri, and

14:23

they've lawyered up. Than

14:26

ours thing says they're interesting. Actually

14:28

that's a weird reaction. Yeah, did

14:30

some tell these boys not to

14:32

talk to the press? has. Been

14:35

put on the Delta Hi

14:37

website up until the other

14:39

day when kids returned back

14:41

from Spring Break. A reward

14:43

wasn't given this a multi

14:45

million dollar chapter. Dell to

14:47

tie it is a national

14:49

chapter. They went silent and

14:51

they lawyered up nothing on

14:53

Tic Toc, nothing on Instagram.

14:55

Now I say that very

14:57

seriously because people get their

14:59

news things going viral is

15:01

more powerful than your local.

15:03

News these days if you get a

15:05

story. To go viral on tic toc

15:08

It's as good as gold. You have

15:10

millions of eyes. They didn't participate.

15:12

In a search. Why don't people

15:14

participate in searches? They don't participate

15:16

in searches when they know something

15:18

that is a brotherhood. Let me

15:21

tell you something else. Rob: Yeah,

15:23

None of those boys have reached

15:25

out to the family. Not a

15:27

condolence, not a card patty. How

15:29

can he not disclose? It wasn't

15:31

reported that a family said the

15:33

family came forward as of yesterday.

15:35

The family went public and said

15:37

say have not heard anything from

15:39

a brother from a chapter from

15:42

a president. Nothing I also

15:44

looked into doubt that high

15:46

not a good history that

15:48

fraternity. They have had so

15:51

many hazing incidences of brothers

15:53

die yet this paternity is

15:55

on the mars on Thrall.

15:58

As the friends say, It's

16:00

fucking control. The math isn't mapping

16:02

for me. Rob Yeah, I put

16:04

this to sad and then I

16:06

started looking more into this. Why

16:08

wasn't that fraternity putting up a

16:10

reward for information? One, this boy

16:13

went missing. Why weren't those boys

16:15

talking? If one I know went

16:17

missing, you know I would be

16:19

screaming from every platform. I would

16:21

be reaching out to news out,

16:23

be reaching out to pick talkers.

16:25

I would be reaching out to

16:27

everyone. Why did they don't. What

16:30

is happening? Somebody make this makes sense to

16:32

me and then and play devil's advocate. understand

16:34

because wow would love you'd see I can't

16:36

wait when we talked about this earlier and

16:38

we talked about the possible liability of the

16:40

bar right? sort of the police After I

16:42

added with yeah I s and your point

16:45

and of the friends and not so much

16:47

even in a criminal sense when it comes

16:49

to friends. but why they let their friends

16:51

go out like that? Why did they not?

16:53

What is not one person accompany him. I

16:55

wonder if has to do with that vs

16:57

anything the serious somebody did you are. I

16:59

mean. Protect themselves from because they actually

17:01

didn't you know do with their duty that

17:03

night vs. I'm actually actively hurting rarely and

17:06

I say that because at no point was

17:08

rarely seen with anybody if she was out

17:10

wand and unless one of the brothers knew

17:12

where he wasn't met up with him after

17:15

he had been seen alone. but every time

17:17

he was spotted that I he was spotted

17:19

alone three times. Yeah right so is what

17:21

it alone I don't know is is any

17:23

report of any of the people he was

17:26

with leaving the bar after him and because

17:28

my understanding is that they in. Fact: we're

17:30

not allowed to leave until the top was clear.

17:32

Something like that was like on it could just

17:34

be this is the fraternity is that legal counsel

17:36

attorney a know the universe about real council? I

17:38

mean we should discuss of happen. When there's like

17:41

allegations of sexual assault right by frat

17:43

Brothers, everybody just. Band of brothers

17:45

been on a silo to silence the

17:47

lawyer up. I feel like it's kind

17:49

of a policy versus it. Reflecting

17:51

any kind. Of culpability by

17:54

anybody who's there I'm so that that's

17:56

my devil's advocate and new know I

17:58

I appreciate your devil's advocate. Organ

18:00

stupid things. If that were me,

18:02

I think you know my character.

18:04

Number One I would never in

18:06

a million years me by friend.

18:08

I'm not putting myself on any

18:10

pedestal. I just wouldn't. Let's say

18:12

I did. I would go on

18:14

my Instagram and say my biggest

18:16

regret was not leaving my friend

18:18

that night. But my friend is

18:20

missing. Not a single picture are

18:23

missing picture on their social social

18:25

media is so how about you

18:27

what to say? Told them to

18:29

be quiet. Okay. What Do you?

18:31

Have to be. That's my friend. That's

18:33

a Human Rights. You required here kicked

18:35

out of eternity do says fraternities. That's

18:37

my fucking brother unless nobody was that

18:40

close to him. And for them being

18:42

part of attorneys more important I can

18:44

see it both ways that I can

18:47

see has entered which case I would

18:49

call parkinsonian against more and I would

18:51

say that somebody you know something at

18:54

the toxicology report comes back. He wasn't

18:56

slipped. Anything you know, sit around and

18:58

he fell from a distance but he's

19:00

had no blunt force trauma. he said

19:03

no head trauma. Also. Listen, not

19:05

for nothing. I'm just putting the

19:07

Sat there. He was also a

19:09

strong swimmer. He was intoxicated. I'm

19:11

just putting that out there as

19:13

another piece of information. I am

19:15

saying someone knows something. Any your

19:18

personal responsibility to another human being

19:20

always trumps we need a new

19:22

fucking word for trump always trumps

19:24

anything else. If someone says you

19:26

top I see I'm a great

19:28

Sumi ceiling court. I need to

19:30

find my friend. Your. Point is

19:33

fair, maybe nobody cared so much.

19:35

we see the other that we

19:37

see with for. Seems we see it

19:39

with law enforcement. It happens much more

19:41

often in. Band of Brothers have a

19:43

situations with yet much. Much more commonly.

19:45

but it happens all the time with

19:48

his cone and code of silence is

19:50

just enforce. It happens all the time,

19:52

even in times when there's not a

19:54

necessary is there. It's just like this

19:56

legal reaction does it because I believe

19:58

in the code. I believe

20:01

in the Blue Code of Silence I believe

20:03

in you know if you have nothing to

20:05

be silent about and you're not hiding anything,

20:07

institutions, law policies and they just don't care

20:09

until and unless everything's clear to I have

20:11

another angle to throw into this case. A

20:13

pack of our I just a few weeks

20:15

ago with introduce a man in Kevin Gannon

20:17

to them that is the name sounds familiar,

20:19

haven't yet and I know every oh yes

20:21

while you might have heard of him he

20:24

the retired and Y P D detective and

20:26

are we connected through a mutual friend and

20:28

we heard of Up with as a. Couple

20:30

conversations with have setting forth. She's not as retired

20:32

and my. Duty. Detective he is.

20:34

The I would say. Countries foremost

20:37

expert on the smiley face

20:39

killers. Okay, Okay, yes, yes, yes, he

20:41

has done a lot of media I think. is that

20:43

a book coming out soon? He's bad go

20:45

to rape he he is obsessed with

20:47

a smiley face colors in in many

20:50

cases of him she has convinced since

20:52

one of the smiley face killers killings

20:54

or. He's A. There's a lot of different reasons that

20:56

he would love to the he can actually get access to

20:58

the family or get down there and take a look himself.

21:01

He wants to get down and take a look himself and

21:03

ask. I told him I said when I'm in Nashville july.

21:05

Third, during our lives showered with Hillary

21:07

Fort Morgan. Slated we announced that just don't

21:09

return of okay out what I think we

21:11

did I don't know what we did our

21:13

of I think we did on a patriot

21:15

we did not on the means he. Meant

21:19

every person in Nashville like third don't

21:21

miss I am in them of in.

21:23

Chicago right after, but. Then I haven't said

21:25

to me that he sees that invalid is

21:27

investigating and there's a picture that he shared

21:29

with me of a press conference at all.

21:31

In. The second scientists and I'll show it to

21:34

a press conference of place about Riley's death.

21:36

And in the press conference. As. A woman

21:38

standing really close to the might.

21:40

She's not reporters. He seems like

21:42

a member of just the public.

21:45

She looks really distraught. And she's

21:47

holding a phone. She's on her phone.

21:49

Said right up by the podium and on the back

21:51

of her found. Is a smiley face. Let

21:53

me see if I can find As

21:55

and you know smile is his killers

21:58

which Kevin believe is a internationally. That

22:00

dead kind of gang of criminals.

22:02

Who committed to and for different reasons. It's

22:04

this as a kevin suspicion that he thinks

22:06

this is like he like. This is exactly

22:09

how they operate. In Out is that as

22:11

a lot of them end up and bodies

22:13

of water how are they as I was

22:15

young man is Alice These and the always

22:17

the other like sit the same kinda looked

22:19

fairly good looking young white guys who have

22:22

less bars and an end up in a

22:24

local body of water. How are they usually

22:26

held digest third rounder their post or something

22:28

or someone stole an Elvis. Why? Why does

22:30

this game good As he's like. There's initiation

22:32

involve. There's two other far as actual us all,

22:34

I don't think so. He didn't say that I

22:37

can ask him now that they said his book

22:39

coming out was I told. Him I want an advance

22:41

Copies I can read. It I have a whole lot

22:43

about As but I know she's connecting not hundred

22:45

making more than hundreds of cases that he thinks

22:47

is hop hard this gang and I'll say this

22:49

I think it's a really broad theory in the.

22:51

Apply brings it all kinds of cases that

22:53

are not related. But if I think for

22:56

ten minutes better the bigger umbrella to rule

22:58

cases out. But then in one of the

23:00

stories want to talk about today is is

23:02

a gang a local rich dogs who was

23:04

like on and as of. And

23:07

critical to the ship for fun. So I don't

23:09

know I know. I just wanted to say that

23:11

the foremost expert in the smiley face killer thinks

23:14

the service Macys killing Mccain says in the chat

23:16

I always thought the smiley face killer was more

23:18

of a hoax and a killer. First of all

23:20

his killers close to learn things in. Different

23:23

cities. It's sort of a

23:25

very unassuming. Nice looking guy who's

23:27

like hey bro, you good you need help

23:29

stop the working series. They can act on

23:32

the deep web and Kevin has evidence that

23:34

he's going to publish in his book about

23:36

Sl. The reason I wanted to update it

23:38

was because I sort of just had that

23:40

at face value than said no foul play.

23:43

I gave them very brief update and it

23:45

seemed a little weird but he had just

23:47

happened. When I gave the update I can't

23:49

remember for it was on the main feet

23:52

or the patron on such as I just

23:54

started digging in. I don't. Know it

23:56

all feels weird and this feels like

23:58

a very incomplete. Story. The I will

24:00

say this. I do agree with the family that

24:02

I don't think it was an accidental deaths I

24:05

feel to suspicious death. I don't know who's responsible,

24:07

I don't know if I your name Yemeni a

24:09

right to earth hyleas asking or Kelly's asking if

24:11

he's me. What about the do with the frat?

24:13

This is an alternate theory right? like these. Are

24:16

theory that we may be the. Rats

24:18

or somebody to France has involvement. Maybe slightest

24:20

select, maybe something some a random. Maybe they

24:22

didn't want people to know that they were

24:24

on some kind of drugs because I searched

24:27

into don't practise history is not yet. It's

24:29

not good history of tea and seeing not

24:31

that this is a hazing incident because rather

24:33

was a senior of people have a very

24:35

bad reputation. Nothing have been trying to clean

24:38

up since two thousand and nineteen say have

24:40

stepped that I found going back to two

24:42

thousand and five. What did you say? Worth

24:44

a frat as part of a Smiley Face

24:46

Killers club would. That be great movie.

24:49

It's insane. I don't know we can

24:51

have it on a lot of them

24:53

on the cell and we had was

24:55

with with him. Let's deal at. the

24:57

family is still looking for answers and

24:59

I think they deserve it is. it

25:01

was a tragic accident and he drowned

25:04

and he got intoxicated and was unable

25:06

to get himself. I've the water. That

25:08

is entirely possible, but there are way

25:10

too many questions. There are more questions

25:12

than answers at this point. From my

25:14

last update, if anybody knows anything, they're

25:16

encouraged to come forward. And the family deserves

25:19

that. It's just isn't adding a yeah it's not

25:21

a close case of the family and I think

25:23

it's on a closed his for a lot of

25:25

us Actually Kevin decide the present as as he

25:27

has looked that so many cases. Is it possible

25:29

in the body water like that you would Lacy

25:32

Peterson. We wondered about this for everything that like

25:34

the closest fall of I own a couple of

25:36

pair cowboy boots getting those things on and off

25:38

as a real struggle yeah that's was I was

25:40

saying they were saying Well the current I was

25:43

like cats mr as I could see even a

25:45

pair of like of work boots I could see.

25:47

How does your foot goes here? And

25:50

you've actually got to move your foot

25:52

up? An alpha? You know what it

25:54

could. Be a we need somebody who's like an expert

25:56

in Sussex, but it could be a water pressure thing.

25:58

you know? I mean like. There's certain kind of water

26:01

pressure that a water pistol could force like to sit

26:03

out. I like if there's water in the boot near

26:05

the water pressure. I mean like I know, like

26:07

it or oil wells into six is like water

26:09

wants to be equal inside and outside of. that's

26:11

also like of it that maybe I don't know.

26:13

That's like I said, I want to scientists explain

26:15

that to me. I could be a scientist by

26:17

like four o'clock today. Yes, that's true, you might

26:20

already be. Yeah, all right, arm out his belt

26:22

that in bottles. Well the buckle could have been

26:24

broken off at me. I think it would sound

26:26

launched by the side of the. The river

26:28

the water right like there's some like filed under.

26:30

A. Rock Or something like that. There was something that I do think

26:32

about. The whole can be broke and you

26:34

know just by the body being hitting

26:36

rocks and hitting things and so. It's

26:39

all possible. I got. It's not as

26:41

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26:43

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doubles up have already recorded. Or there is

29:00

an alert ago. I want to talk about

29:02

the upcoming execution of man named Brian Doors

29:05

the in the state of Missouri. So. This

29:07

week and we are quitting on Monday to sleep.

29:09

Brian Dorothy. Is going to be put. To Death.

29:11

Unless the Governor give them clemency. There's

29:13

a petition from the Governor for the

29:15

two thousand and six murders of his

29:17

own cousin and her husband. Okay, so

29:20

what happened was on December twenty third.

29:22

in two thousand six Brian calls his

29:24

cousin asking for help and she said

29:26

at the time he was had a

29:28

very bad drug addicts and alcoholics cel.

29:30

He calls his cousin and says there

29:32

are two drug dealers in my apartment

29:34

and they're gonna kill me. I in

29:36

some way to pay them. You know

29:38

I need some help. So his cousins.

29:41

Hadn't. Thera and her husband Benjamin went

29:43

to the apartment. And the drug dealers

29:45

less as it's not clear whether or not. They

29:47

paid them but they last. Then they took

29:49

Brian back to their own house to take

29:51

care of him as he is basically you

29:53

know, high and not don't grade and it's

29:55

December twenty third. So what are my Christmas

29:57

here? And that evening the the family spent.

30:00

You know, playing pool and hanging out.

30:02

And then later that night after Sarah

30:04

and bedroom sleep, Bryant goes into the

30:07

room. The shot sought them both at

30:09

close range. Thrusters also alleged that. Brian

30:11

raped Sarah after shooting her as his

30:14

cousin but it's an allegation because there

30:16

was he didn't plead guilty to the

30:18

rape or sexual thought. He did however

30:20

plead guilty to murdering them. The of

30:23

though pam the appeal basically our our

30:25

to stop. His execution are based

30:27

on two things them one that he

30:29

has had a absolutely transformation always abilities

30:32

and while and present it's than what

30:34

now eighteen years since he's been present

30:36

and number to the he had ineffective

30:38

assistance of counsel an article about the

30:41

things so he has to turn himself

30:43

and and ah he pleaded guilty and

30:45

day he told jurors about as he

30:48

had a very severe chronic depression mental

30:50

health. Issues he had had suicide attempts

30:52

very bad substance abuse issues, but he

30:55

was sentenced to death for both murders.

30:57

Okay, and then he appeals at, but

30:59

they were upheld. So Brian says that.

31:01

He is deeply remorseful. For the

31:04

murders that he wasn't a drug induced

31:06

psychosis and alcohol induced black saying the

31:08

he. Didn't even know what he was doing.

31:10

So as attorneys are arguing with our that

31:12

he you know the first degree murder charge

31:14

couldn't. Even applies if you didn't know

31:16

what he was doing. But beyond that

31:19

the person has become in prison in

31:21

the last eighteen years is that he's

31:23

completely rehabilitated. Know it's interesting about his

31:25

promises to sense is that Seventy Seven

31:27

Zero Correctional Officers has also. Signed on

31:29

are written individual letters in support of

31:32

it. Says seventy Office Crush Authors who have

31:34

who have worked with Dorsey in the prisons

31:36

are like this is Not. The same person he

31:38

is not just clean and sober up a he

31:40

has like incredible human being. He is kind of

31:42

weird argument they've made which I'm like I don't

31:44

think that's a great argument. Is that he works

31:46

as the prison barber to yells has like clippers

31:48

and scissors and things you could kill people wouldn't

31:51

guess what. He never. Did so. I mean like I don't

31:53

think that the great argument. Be made but a with they're

31:55

saying the he's. expressing. Remorse he

31:57

is clean he says.

32:00

The and what is asking for a

32:02

life sentence versus the death sentence? Now

32:04

on the other hand, there's on the

32:06

other front of like clemency front is

32:08

the ineffective Assistance of Counsel claim, which

32:10

is that Dorsey was assigned to public

32:13

defenders at the time. Okay, and he

32:15

could afford private council and the to

32:17

public defenders. And this is a death

32:19

penalty case which takes hundreds or thousands

32:21

of hours. They were both paid flat

32:23

sees of twelve thousand dollars from the

32:26

state to defend him. Okay, which comes

32:28

out to about three bucks. Three. Dollars

32:30

and thirty cents per hour to do this work

32:32

as a fair to anyone has suffered anybody. But

32:34

here's the thing that she didn't have. Do a

32:36

lot of work President go to trial with him

32:38

and supplement to take his guilty plea was a

32:40

guilty plea automatically attached to the death penalty or

32:43

did they not Now at the time that's not

32:45

clear to me but I would assume that they

32:47

would know that that is a possibility that was

32:49

grew to be a life sentence or death sentence

32:51

as coming as you would have things that they

32:53

would say if you plead guilty you'll just get

32:55

life as he go to trial you see on

32:57

the chance of getting it up and yeah my

32:59

guess. Is that they that they said to

33:01

him that you have the possibility of getting

33:04

either life or death and then fly. When

33:06

he took the please explain the mitigating circumstances of

33:08

his mental health issues and of the drug abuse

33:10

and all that hoping. That he would get a

33:12

life sentence but he didn't He got that's

33:14

something that to death sentences I didn't put

33:16

a lot of like i don't own weight

33:18

in that particular issue. But then a former

33:20

Supreme Court justice of the State of Missouri

33:22

who was actually an advocate for Dorsey right

33:24

now said that the fact that the own

33:26

that twelve thousand dollars that the was actually

33:28

a ceiling of the legal system and since

33:30

that time the Public Defender's Office has done

33:32

away with that thought, these attorneys and death

33:34

penalty cases and so there's a lot of

33:36

this and foot in the position. That Director

33:39

of the Public Funds office as

33:41

the practice was found to violate

33:43

guidelines like American Bar Association because.

33:45

The death penalty cases obviously require

33:47

so much time and effort so

33:49

even people within that institution are

33:51

like that was as stop and

33:53

the the the former Supreme court

33:55

justices name's Michael Wolff said that

33:57

it was a hugely cause He

33:59

said. Undoubtedly influence everything. The

34:01

influence the attorneys strategy. It influenced

34:04

the fact that they didn't investigate.

34:06

The case at all day and look for any real.

34:08

Way to descend their client and he said

34:10

that executing Dorsey will this honor our system

34:12

of capital punishment. These are thing is against

34:14

capital punishment He saying that this does not

34:17

fall within like the kinds of situations in

34:19

which capital punishment should apply. It was a

34:21

young couple that a four year old daughter

34:23

and their bodies were found the next day

34:25

by i think the mother of the of

34:28

the young woman who was murdered and before

34:30

year alone in the house with her parents

34:32

murder itself year their family members were supporting

34:34

Dorsey their family members were not supporting their

34:36

family most was no his be executed. Because

34:38

late as you know, this and that couple took

34:41

him in when she was like you know, in

34:43

a really dire situation and he murdered them as

34:45

night. I think this is a really. Interesting

34:47

case for us, his thoughts when it comes.

34:49

To Death Penalty. There's so many times you and

34:51

I are like fry I'm fry an egg where

34:53

it's so you know like we'd us, there's no

34:56

set s and even see your like as having

34:58

to site my instinct to be like Brian. You

35:00

know I mean like execute because the brutality of

35:02

the murder, because the circumstances. These are close family

35:05

members that he'd gone to for help. He left

35:07

the for your dos or the other than he

35:09

saw a bunch of the shit and the cars

35:11

drove right, left. a little girl loan to around

35:14

trying to sell it off to pay back his

35:16

drug dealers and him that the fact that he

35:18

was an addict really ill. And then

35:20

it's like, well, what the what is that

35:22

rehabilitation for? Why do you after people to

35:25

be rehabilitated? Be remorseful and none of that

35:27

matters. And yeah, I like to hear your

35:29

thoughts. There are so many times where I

35:31

say just fry ham Gillian I discovered a

35:34

case on a Tv show called Killer Siblings

35:36

were there is this awful sibling and this

35:38

other sibling that kind of went along with

35:40

said and I think I texted Maggie about

35:43

it because I wanted to know if she

35:45

had heard about it because it's wrong. It's

35:47

always wrong. Killing someone else doesn't. Bring

35:49

those people back and it doesn't

35:51

always really give any kind of

35:53

retribution. But we want rehabilitation Bright.

35:56

We want people to do better,

35:58

to know better, to have for

36:00

more. What I think about people

36:02

like that who have seven be

36:04

a correction officers have their own

36:06

free well writing or testifying or

36:08

giving testimony to somebody who is

36:10

making prison culture a better place.

36:12

That's what really speaks to me.

36:14

Okay taking away the brutality of

36:16

the crime and just saying you're

36:18

a criminal, Your incarcerated, you're going

36:21

to be there for the rest

36:23

of your life. Or prison culture

36:25

or prison system is so beyond

36:27

repair. Just saying it's fucked up.

36:29

That's an understatement. It seems almost

36:31

on sick the ball and then you

36:33

have. Every once in awhile you have

36:36

these people. These inmates. these people who

36:38

are going to be incarcerated. I'm behind

36:40

bars for the rest of their life,

36:42

actually trying to make this community this

36:45

world of the prison that they live

36:47

in a better place, a more positive

36:49

play, acting like a role model for

36:52

people who will get out some day

36:54

who might not be there for the

36:56

rest of their lives, Who could teach

36:58

someone beat error. Of their ways. That

37:01

is what sort of fills me with

37:03

a little bit of hope. The people

37:05

that I really say fry them I

37:07

don't care about you are really the

37:09

people who hurt children, The people who

37:12

play on the most vulnerable in you

37:14

know, sex acts and I'm an animal.

37:16

Not saying this wasn't horrible, but seeing

37:18

somebody not just be a good person

37:20

but actually turn their life around to

37:23

change and better of the lives of

37:25

others kind of makes me say listen,

37:27

he still gonna be in jail I

37:29

don't quite. Know how the numbers work out

37:31

that it's more expensive to execute an inmate than

37:33

it is to keep them behind bars. I would

37:36

love to understand those numbers a little bit better,

37:38

but it does is right. That's what they tell

37:40

us. They tell us it's more expensive to execute

37:42

them than to keep them there. Or maybe it

37:44

depends on how long their that they. Have a

37:47

know how young that did that in that person

37:49

is and how many years expected him to be

37:51

has its in persuading people have a lot of

37:53

money while might actually be as well. I know

37:55

that's why I want to understand those numbers

37:57

a little bit better if he is actually

37:59

active. Really making the world a better

38:01

place. Sadly, Those people who lost

38:04

their lives are never coming back. You

38:06

surprise me to they Ellen I didn't

38:08

expect you to take this position. I

38:10

actually spoke to be like well I

38:12

mean said as a matter he actually

38:14

kill them because so many times we

38:16

see people who we have fan. You

38:18

know what upsets me is when people

38:20

serve a year in prison for some

38:22

kind of sexual assault and then they're

38:24

back in prison for murder. But if

38:26

they would have been charged more there

38:28

are times where I say you don't

38:30

deserve. I've said this before, you don't

38:32

deserve. To breed the same era that I

38:34

do, You don't deserve that. You. Don't

38:36

deserve to get to see the sunshine

38:38

when those children who he murdered don't

38:40

get to and then some people are

38:43

just like good people, but it seems

38:45

like he is actively making prison a

38:47

better place for people. Isn't that what

38:49

we want? And also you know she

38:51

is. I think. Very a very different

38:54

case and somebody who's like, let's say, A

38:56

sexual predator, a psychopath as your path, Somebody

38:58

who's behaviors going to escalate over time. We

39:01

know that we talked even about like, you

39:03

know, chemical castration for folks like that were

39:05

like I have a compulsion either. Complex? I

39:07

don't. Know what to do. I cannot stop. it's

39:09

you know. This is not like he thought he

39:11

was head of Ended before. He doesn't have a history.

39:14

Of violent crime. I do think he on

39:16

the night that he couldn't these murders he

39:18

was complete zonked out of he was very

39:20

very deeply says that he's. Not fighting to

39:22

get out, he is just fighting to

39:24

not die that. The other thing this

39:27

this is not a question of whether

39:29

he gets out or not. A life

39:31

sentence is also a death sentence. By

39:33

the way, he will not see the

39:36

light of freedom is your body will

39:38

not leave prison time. Me he got

39:40

his bachelor's behind bars or he was

39:42

a good in me. I might be

39:45

more on the fence but you're telling

39:47

me that seventy people in that prison

39:49

or saints you make sought world's. A

39:51

Better Place and others as the Crack

39:53

Saucers. As many others who are supporting

39:56

his petition, Clemency Gillian I just had

39:58

a case like this on I think

40:00

not. so I don't. I do think

40:02

all of these decisions are gray. I

40:04

think that's why I have so many

40:06

problems with the judicial system because there

40:08

are so many new one says on.

40:10

There are so many shades of grey

40:12

in the middle that you don't always

40:14

get it's not always on a piece

40:16

of paper. You know when you're in

40:18

May Two, four, Six, or one everybody

40:20

has a story of why they're They're

40:23

how they're they're and if they're gonna

40:25

come back. and I don't know. even

40:27

if we took out the rehabilitative part

40:29

and we focused. Only on the ineffective

40:31

assistance of counsel part. Oh that's bananas. yeah.

40:33

horrible for all involved because I understand the

40:35

lawyers doing that. We were just talking about

40:37

being financially taken advantage of. Yeah, oh yeah

40:40

no. I understand both sides of that is

40:42

now. So I do things that he did

40:44

not get the rubs it representation He deserve

40:46

the defense that he deserved. I think for

40:48

that reason alone or something else he should

40:51

have gotten a new trial which he had

40:53

tried and he did not. I mean his

40:55

appeal had failed on on on turning a

40:57

new trial, get a conviction overturned based on

40:59

that racing. On the basis of that alone,

41:02

given the size that he did, possible outcomes

41:04

of the says could have been life sentence

41:06

or death sentence. I do support this petition

41:08

for clemency and Gov. Parsons. They are

41:11

reviewing Brian's clemency petition and. Typically

41:13

they will announce it says in like

41:15

twenty four hours in advance when you

41:17

see what the T as unless the

41:20

Governor stops at today by time this

41:22

airs a week. You will probably have

41:24

been executed unless something changes. Missouri is

41:26

tough man was. or. Like hang him

41:28

as a hanging. Say I think it's unlikely

41:30

that you'll get the clement. This is very

41:33

rarely get clemency but you never know. I

41:35

don't know. I surprise you today Rob yeah

41:37

you did. I thought you'd hear the puts

41:39

the as as you and I said before

41:41

your girl was alone in the house. I

41:43

thought you said I'm going up for the

41:45

switch myself. Okay while I while both back

41:47

in your core it would he thought for

41:49

me not missing boy. But I've actually kind

41:52

of not ignored this case. but I didn't

41:54

bite onto this case I'm I thought of

41:56

doing at a couple weeks ago. Were day

41:58

forty two other missing t me. Your

42:00

by the name of Sebastian Rogers

42:02

have you heard about this? It

42:04

is in Tennessee so he was

42:06

living with his mom and her

42:09

husband. Her name is Katie Proudfoot

42:11

and Chris Proudfoot when he disappeared

42:13

overnight on February Twenty fifth. were

42:15

going back to but some new

42:17

information just came out that made

42:19

me feel like I had to

42:21

talk about this. Sebastian assist T

42:24

and and he is on the

42:26

Autism spectrum. So let me give

42:28

you a really quick timeline of

42:30

what happened Monday, February Twenty six,

42:32

The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation The

42:34

T V I issued an Endangered

42:36

Child alert at Eleven seventeen Am

42:38

and that was on behalf of

42:41

the Sumner County Sheriff's Department. The

42:43

report said that his mother was

42:45

the last person to see him.

42:47

He was described as wearing a

42:49

black sweatshirt, black sweat pants, and

42:51

glasses. However, it appears that he

42:53

didn't leave home with shoes, possibly

42:56

socks or his backpack or his

42:58

switch or anything. So they really.

43:00

Sprung into action with First

43:02

Responders, Highway Patrol, National Fire

43:04

Department, City of Hendersonville First

43:06

Responders. There were over two

43:08

hundred searchers on the ground

43:10

that day, with canine unit

43:13

helicopters even drowns. So sadly,

43:15

that search on that Monday

43:17

yielded nothing. So on Tuesday,

43:19

February twenty seventh, the T

43:21

V I issued an amber

43:23

alert because it was getting

43:25

colder, it didn't appear like

43:27

he had a jacket, and

43:29

then. He was gonna be exposed

43:31

to the elements if he did leave

43:33

on his own over night. They

43:36

covered over to a thousand miles

43:38

in total, and they went through

43:40

his home multiple times. Nothing. so

43:43

they've obviously encouraged all of the

43:45

neighbors to go through their surveillance

43:48

cameras and report any possible information

43:50

so finely. On March third, the

43:52

mother and stepfather spoke publicly and

43:55

explained that he had last Oliver

43:57

sort of personal effects at home.

43:59

Here's where it gets a little

44:02

dicey. Sebastian's biological father, his name

44:04

is Seth Rogers. He has been

44:06

vocal an extremely active in every

44:09

search. In fact, he has searched

44:11

every day with a group since

44:13

his son has been missing as

44:16

he has been on every news

44:18

outlet he has given every interview,

44:20

he has talked to news stations,

44:23

he has talked to pick talkers,

44:25

he has talked a pod casters.

44:27

This man looks like he hasn't

44:30

slept and I'm not being hyperbolic.

44:32

I just watched the new this

44:35

interview with the newest information that

44:37

he gave. This man looks like

44:39

he is barely. Oh wait, I

44:42

am not using any kind of

44:44

exaggeration. their. The information that he'd

44:46

just confirmed was that his son

44:49

Sebastian was sexually assaulted at the

44:51

age of seven by another teenager

44:53

who he says his ex wife

44:56

Katie allowed to be in his

44:58

presence and in his. Family: Once

45:00

Katie found out about the sexual abuse,

45:03

it appears like she didn't get him

45:05

any help. Until. Last

45:07

year the father's name is

45:09

Sebastian. The father is placing

45:11

a lot of blame and

45:13

shade on this couple now

45:16

Katie and Crests the mom

45:18

and stepdad Rod Nancy Grace.

45:20

Nancy Grace. Said. Will you

45:22

guys take a poly Mom said

45:24

yes I'll take a poly Mom

45:26

took a poly step. Dad said

45:28

yes I'll take a poly. Nancy

45:30

Grace jumps through all her Nancy

45:33

Grace who probably with a shit

45:35

ton of broken when call hairspray

45:37

Chris goes ah. Actually, Want

45:40

to take that palin? I choose my the Tb I

45:42

told me not to take a poly the T V

45:44

I was like me and say they may like no

45:46

no no no I got some guy at the tv

45:48

I said i. I shouldn't advice so

45:50

I'm not going to take a Bali. Okay, Some.

45:53

Other information came out

45:55

that Christians parents a

45:57

couple days after Sebastian

45:59

went missing hulu to

46:01

Seattle and flu. Private.

46:04

To Alaska. A

46:07

couple days after their son,

46:09

step son went missing. Lot.

46:12

Of shady behavior around Christmas

46:14

family. The last bit of

46:16

information that just came up

46:19

was that press one to

46:21

death his biological daughter to

46:23

come live with his family

46:25

and he expressed concern that

46:27

Sebastian who remember has autism

46:29

would do to his daughter.

46:32

What happened to him. That

46:34

Rodgers. He's not holding anything

46:36

back. He thinks that they

46:38

had something to do with

46:40

said we are forty two

46:43

days out of this little

46:45

boy Missing this boy. His

46:47

face is so precious for

46:49

some and sweet he loved

46:51

video game. That's about it

46:53

is I know what anime

46:55

mother. I would also like

46:57

to add that Katie and

46:59

Crests mom and stepdad have

47:01

not participated in a single

47:03

solitary. Search for there's you A One thing

47:06

that with he'll also brought up in the child

47:08

is that apparently assess the the biological father said

47:10

it's a-and once went outside and stepped into a

47:12

pile of fire ants lol barefoot and ever since

47:14

and he refused to go outside without socks on

47:16

because he was so terrified that get that here's

47:19

a question of this us out in a suspicious

47:21

that he did not have thought that I guess

47:23

the question is how do you know that he

47:25

doesn't have a sauce? I mean I know he

47:27

didn't have she is it was suspected that he

47:29

didn't have that. I don't know if that was

47:32

that like the sock unless he owns like two.

47:34

Pairs of shoes and they're both. They're right. I

47:36

guess what I knew the She: I mean you

47:38

can account for all your kids his I don't

47:40

have. I can be on a few putting on

47:43

for yeah seances broad that were so many shoes

47:45

I would not know I honestly would Now okay

47:47

we'll your shopping addiction has nothing to do this

47:49

in the sixties. And

47:51

thought I would know about a five years

47:53

at my idea was okay. So I'm thrown

47:56

out of theory. their what if he really

47:58

liked the crazy people wear socks. Too bad

48:00

I don't want to name names button. Their

48:02

name starts with the are and ends with

48:04

Rbs. What if he wore like a specific

48:06

fuzzy socks to bed at because a lot

48:08

of people with autism have a lot of

48:10

sensory issues and they got a lot of

48:12

issues like liking to wear the same thing

48:14

to bed and I'm not getting that on

48:17

this child. I'm just making an assumption as

48:19

to why they think that he wasn't wearing

48:21

socks. Maybe he only war these certain fuzzy

48:23

socks to bed. He had four pairs, four

48:25

pairs were there may be the Sox he

48:27

wore to bed. where by the bed it

48:29

has confirmed. He was not wearing shoes.

48:31

It is thought he was also not

48:33

wearing socks. Is there any footage of

48:36

him having like wandered off like any

48:38

and mean only footage I could find

48:40

was from an Australian outlet? That sad

48:42

that a ring camera adorable camera when

48:44

off that about three am with a

48:47

light thinking that he had a flashlight.

48:49

I could not find that under any

48:51

other news outlet. If somebody else finds

48:53

it, please let me know. I don't

48:56

know if there's something going on with

48:58

my computer that led me to an

49:00

Australian outlet. please let me know if

49:02

there is one. So I didn't feel

49:04

comfortable reporting it because I wasn't able

49:07

to corroborate that not I don't trust.

49:09

Australia. I probably trust Australia more

49:11

than I do here, but that

49:13

isn't a widely circulated theory. I'm

49:16

really curious with a shoe and soft with

49:18

bit of information because I think I'm a

49:20

middle of the i was unaware of the

49:22

soy them the if I can find some

49:24

more sources on A because I had kind

49:26

of heard about it and I was like

49:28

it seems a little bit like there wasn't

49:30

a lot of information quite frankly other than

49:32

jobs missing. I get that now that more

49:34

information has come out about the sexual assault

49:36

and the dad I am telling you if

49:39

you look up Sat Rodgers this dad must

49:41

be talking to people all day every day

49:43

because he is. Everywhere. See

49:45

his Gf Spratly. Desperately trying

49:47

to find his son. that man every

49:49

night meets a bunch of people and

49:52

just goes around different areas looking for

49:54

him. Okay, I keyboards the shooting to

49:56

them like if that's a detail that

49:58

the mother and stuff. The other provides

50:00

the please that people killing got repairs issues

50:02

rile here. So he did not leave. Would

50:04

suicides? Why would they do that? They were involved

50:07

in anything he running mean that looks so much

50:09

more suspicious than if they were like or maybe

50:11

they thought that makes it look like he's an

50:13

artistic as who just wandered off and I don't

50:16

know. I'm just I'm really. Some detail for

50:18

me and. On us and It Neighborhoods

50:20

and Shatner. All everyone has the rings

50:22

as to go there so afford a

50:24

ball. They're so easy there so user

50:27

friendly. Yeah well here's they were not

50:29

gonna. I mean the police. Us on

50:31

the Us to getting so looking for hims. We're

50:33

not gonna get all the information. it won't be

50:35

until you know there's some kind of some relative

50:37

conclusion that maybe they'll put up more information. But

50:39

generally they will. They gotta hide everything you

50:42

know the been a hold on to what

50:44

they what they put out publicly. They can

50:46

be very careful with a with what they

50:48

share. My tail aston attack today confirmed the

50:51

glasses found a couple days ago. Definitely belongs

50:53

to Sebastian. Know they did not know. They

50:55

confirmed that the glasses found did not

50:57

belong to Sebastian thanks to the question of

51:00

why. Well that is terrible and tragic. Sebastian

51:02

is five feet, eight inches, season hundred and

51:04

twenty pounds of it's dirty blonde hair. If

51:06

you have seen him or you have any.

51:09

Information as to his whereabouts. Please

51:11

call the Sumner County Sheriff's Office

51:13

at Six One Five Four Five

51:16

One Three Eight Three Eight Or

51:18

you can also call the T

51:21

B I that number again is

51:23

Six One Five for Five One

51:25

Three Eight Three Eight. They will

51:28

accept any and all tips. Did

51:30

you google the sweet baby say

51:32

I said and looked. Very.

51:35

Sad. And this family, or at

51:37

least this Dad is absolutely gutted.

51:39

Yeah, I mean, I think it's

51:42

way beyond the timeframe. In which

51:44

we can expect to find him safe. Unfortunately,

51:46

I think that's a real gut punch that

51:48

we have to accept that this he's finally

51:51

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53:58

as my teenager. I'm has a

54:01

couple a times about being careful with friends.

54:03

Like told you know like there's some. there's

54:05

like some group of girls that flight harassing

54:07

her and the i sat down at threaten

54:09

her yeah yeah. And same shit about her

54:11

and it's not a far drive. Snow I

54:14

pulled an isa I said. If.

54:16

I am there and they are. They are the

54:18

same time. You. Need to tell me

54:20

who they are because mama there's going to

54:22

have a conversation I guess know him Latin

54:24

Yeah you can tell those girls that on

54:27

T L am will now fuck their dad,

54:29

some become their stepmother and. I

54:32

have a you can tell them not

54:34

limit. My god I relied on the

54:36

back in time of they'll be a

54:39

cease. And. Desist order for against me at the

54:41

mosque with before even leave. And you and

54:43

and yeah scene was picked on by some

54:45

kids to And so now I'm like I'm

54:47

afraid of other kids hurting my kids. I

54:49

mean and not like the hurting in the

54:51

way we got hurt when we were kids.

54:53

I mean that be like you know, maybe

54:55

a little a fight on the playground. This

54:57

is like kids actually killing kids and doing

54:59

crazy things that we've gone over different stories

55:01

and which is this happen? Anyhow, so am

55:03

I want a similar story that I mean

55:05

as Go and I and the other one

55:07

of our listeners suggested that and they just

55:09

the Gilbert humans and like what the heck

55:11

is a Gilbert June Seven Hundred Gilbert goons

55:13

I can tell me it's a gang, it

55:15

is a D and it's not As and

55:17

a gang that you normally think the way

55:19

the gang. So a spate of violent attacks

55:21

began in November of two Thousand and Twenty

55:23

two. Okay and all around and Gilbert Arizona

55:25

area there's an actual like even look up

55:27

a timeline if you want, but it's is

55:29

One after another said people getting assaulted in

55:31

a parking garage, people getting assaulted in a

55:33

parking lot, people getting us. I mean like

55:35

it's just, you know, I mean just on

55:37

the road And it was always a group

55:39

of young mostly white kids but not consistently

55:41

the same. Ones so ill a at the

55:44

in an ounce burger. I mean like he

55:46

just kept happening and I'm talking about like

55:48

dozens of incidences now in October. The sauce.

55:50

October. And twenty of the was neat

55:52

as a Halloween party. A seventeen year

55:54

old name Preston Lord once the party

55:56

and she was badly beaten by a

55:59

group of boys. There and apparently what happened

56:01

for no reason or well did they have

56:03

the is apparently what happened was he didn't

56:05

know any these boys they didn't know him

56:07

the he was there and apart at the

56:09

party with a friends. Who lost a

56:11

piece of jewelry that she was

56:13

wearing? And I think the site broke

56:16

out that like one of them stole it

56:18

or together some like the habit. any out

56:20

she was brutally religion is a stop on

56:22

his head I mean like really brutally assaulted

56:24

him in two days later Preston died so

56:27

too does that or he dies and then

56:29

a hospital hi guys a hostage on yeah

56:31

he died from injuries a homicide investigation was

56:33

opens up leagues that are the F B

56:35

I don't the investigation which was an interesting

56:38

move because why would the and that as

56:40

as the I join a investigation about a

56:42

local basically assault right But it's because. They

56:44

had there were inclinations of. This

56:46

assault was connected to all of these

56:49

other assaults I have been taking place

56:51

and. A local paper actually published a story

56:53

in which they're like it was kind of

56:55

the local The Law or that there's a

56:57

group of kids called the Gilbert Goons they

56:59

call themselves. It was. I think it's a

57:01

dorky name, but they call themselves over guns

57:03

or they're known by that moniker that they

57:05

might have some involvement with presence. Das they

57:08

offer a reward and to the have the the

57:10

number four. Tsp I joined Offer Ward

57:12

two years later, and. Others have had than six

57:14

show boys attack. By multiple people in this

57:16

like deserted area. And then the

57:18

essay opens up a tip line

57:20

thousands. Of sets com and and bit over

57:22

goons keep. Coming up so between

57:25

November and January, investigations ongoing and

57:27

on January tenth five arrests were

57:29

announced in connection. With violent attacks

57:31

that has happened in the region different

57:34

ones and there's another go through article

57:36

arrested by there's. So many arrests like

57:38

then as low as five and ten others

57:40

are busted within the month of January. then

57:43

on March six more people are tars and

57:45

the death of Press and three other two

57:47

are just came later Said total seven people

57:49

were charged. At this point I think they

57:51

have almost. Like poster, a twenty twenty

57:54

young people have been charged as being

57:56

part of this gang known as the

57:58

Gilbert Dunes which is a. Mostly

58:00

wealthy white kids who have been terrorizing

58:02

the area for years and this is

58:05

a sudden they been doing for fun

58:07

and would have kids as young as

58:09

like fourteen, fifteen. And as a up

58:12

to like twenty twenty one but they were

58:14

doing it for years. Obviously the price started

58:16

when a much younger to the young men

58:18

who were charge or actually brothers and their

58:20

father is a. Millionaire businessman name Travis

58:22

better now I got This is interesting

58:25

because his mind me a lot about

58:27

a lot of of the Mirage family

58:29

trap as Renner is described by his

58:31

acts as a alcoholics abuse marijuana but

58:34

also gets son that drugs on his

58:36

own son Tyler who was one of

58:38

the two. Brothers arrested as being part

58:40

of this Gilbert goons assault Tyler his

58:42

son says cocaine, marijuana, mushrooms, Lc ecstasy

58:45

All is a good things on detectives

58:47

and noted in their interview with that

58:49

the except mom and apparently as young

58:51

as as grade the younger son talent

58:54

and talent as a boy who is

58:56

the first to start assaulting pressed and

58:58

on the Halloween night at the party

59:00

like easily stomped him he also to

59:03

video of the assault he sent it

59:05

to people he told people oh I

59:07

put this point the. Hospital he said

59:09

he told people that have a

59:11

closed casket with is why did

59:13

to him super obnoxious but apparently

59:15

when he was insistent grade he

59:17

started doing drugs and his older

59:19

brother was supplying a force for

59:21

to fourteenth birthday. his own father

59:23

gave Talon marijuana candies. As soon

59:25

as this incident took place, a father took

59:28

his younger son Talon who had visible injuries

59:30

to his hands having beating the crap out

59:32

oppressed and to a cabin three hours away

59:34

that they owned. million dollars have any own

59:37

so she could steal from the injuries in

59:39

one that please soft to him. And then

59:41

he started conspiring with another father. Of one

59:44

of the kids to put the charges. To

59:46

accuse somebody else? Isn't this exactly kind of

59:48

what happened and it yourself murder itself. It's

59:50

like a play about yes visit. There

59:52

was another kid is far the gang whose

59:55

name is similar to talented. They're like we're

59:57

gonna set him up as a person

59:59

who who. Lead the Us all to

1:00:01

and light of the said the Settle blows

1:00:03

Any and the reason they know this is

1:00:05

it. As a former employee of this guy's

1:00:07

told media and told detectives that like they

1:00:10

openly were discussing plans to hide evidence and

1:00:12

shift blame to another kid and they were

1:00:14

it involves an entire cover up so well

1:00:16

the father's been arrested along with the boys

1:00:18

the even. She even said that they. Made

1:00:20

it look like dumb. The the father

1:00:23

seems that Tonic calendar and back dataset

1:00:25

to appear that Talon had left town

1:00:27

before the Halloween party anyway. so like

1:00:29

there's this entire cover up with these

1:00:31

kids come from like this group of

1:00:33

people were a me. I'm not sure

1:00:35

if all the parents knew or didn't

1:00:37

know but bear. Was definitely this sense of

1:00:39

entitlement and this guy travis had openly bragged

1:00:41

that you know my money can get my

1:00:44

kids that have any any problems in on

1:00:46

I mean like I'm going to protect them

1:00:48

the she also that an addict him his

1:00:50

of addiction issues I see like this is

1:00:52

as a matter. Time before this is her

1:00:54

and have been turned into a tv series of

1:00:57

of the it's Insane and they have so

1:00:59

many boys arrested in connection with been part of

1:01:01

the Dilbert Dunes gang. What area is this

1:01:03

again? this is in Arizona and isn't a wealthy

1:01:05

area. It seems like it. I mean like it

1:01:07

well. And another. The areas wealthy but it seems

1:01:10

like this to be part of the gang you have

1:01:12

to be part of the certain social circle. And

1:01:14

was like what it? What are these kids get?

1:01:16

Their not robbing, these are the kids. It's just

1:01:18

violence and it's part of often initiation if you

1:01:20

and be part of the game to be like

1:01:22

schoolboys. You to participate. Yeah

1:01:25

luckily only what I mean like an I

1:01:27

luckily the terrible that Preston died but others

1:01:29

were brutally assaulted by you mad into getting

1:01:31

at your current a parking garage and like

1:01:33

a group of teens like this even if

1:01:35

you're an adult as you can fend off

1:01:37

of like. A teenagers all stomping.

1:01:39

It's same. Time luckily nobody else

1:01:42

succumbed died from his injuries.

1:01:44

Patty Saying and Dilbert the

1:01:46

affluent area you know there's

1:01:48

two schools of thought of

1:01:50

family is like says i

1:01:52

feel like raising kids is

1:01:54

so fucking hard Sick kid

1:01:56

belongs to a parents sometimes

1:01:58

you think oh that. Iran

1:02:00

is responsible right? By

1:02:02

there are kids who are

1:02:04

legitimately disrespectful and disobedient. cool,

1:02:07

have a mental health struggles

1:02:09

who come from a good

1:02:11

family is nice. families carrying

1:02:13

families, nurturing families. We've all

1:02:15

seen it happen. And then

1:02:17

there are people too bad

1:02:19

behavior. Be gets bad behavior

1:02:22

and entitlement, bigots and title.

1:02:24

Man, it's the no consequences

1:02:26

and it's the Murdoch of

1:02:28

I'll Take Care Of it

1:02:30

all. Cover up it. Doesn't

1:02:32

always go back to the parents. We

1:02:34

know more about mental illness and are

1:02:36

those super super shitty Perez? I mean

1:02:38

like you normally buying drugs from his

1:02:40

own kid? What? Oh yeah, no I'm

1:02:42

saying. In this instance I remember I

1:02:44

grew up with this kid. Is his

1:02:47

name A Spencer Brush? His mom was

1:02:49

like a fucking Earth angel. She was

1:02:51

so sweet. She was so dear. See

1:02:53

was a naughty boy from when we

1:02:55

were in kindergarten. I grew up with

1:02:57

them. I went to high school. He

1:02:59

was a naughty little boy. He turned

1:03:01

out to have. A load of

1:03:03

mental health South As we grow

1:03:05

older, we learned about that. This

1:03:07

is a case of us of

1:03:10

the Murdoch affect the let's just

1:03:12

call it that I'm naming it

1:03:14

that. It's when you think you

1:03:17

have of entitlement, power status, You

1:03:19

think that whatever you do your

1:03:21

above the law, you're above consequences.

1:03:23

These are rotten kids. They're rotten

1:03:26

kids who were raised by rotten

1:03:28

kids who were raised by people

1:03:30

who probably were entitled rich. Fucking

1:03:32

Kids without did live above the law.

1:03:34

It's like generational of city people and

1:03:36

that's what the says is is just

1:03:39

city people who raised shitty people. Well

1:03:41

I can tell you that I can

1:03:43

guarantee they're going to get the best

1:03:45

legal representation under the law given that

1:03:47

the mean to the families have brought.

1:03:49

you know I really wonder about how

1:03:51

these murder charges of the land seven

1:03:53

people, seven of them are charged in

1:03:55

connection with on Presidents. Does I mean

1:03:57

the juveniles except for the. The eldest

1:03:59

brother and. I'm not next as he was

1:04:01

in charge of they are do that I think

1:04:03

all seven or juvenile so I don't know how

1:04:06

to play out. I have a feeling that there

1:04:08

will be any. Well actually no that's untrue or

1:04:10

maybe there were some please already taken a much

1:04:12

are actually had to go back and second that

1:04:15

that and you know it's a very recent March

1:04:17

of last month as land a month ago when

1:04:19

the rest started getting made just in the that

1:04:21

is connected to the Death Preston Solitaire the place

1:04:24

that will come back and report on it but

1:04:26

yeah I'm minutely I want to come back till

1:04:28

Att that's so scary. Even after the arrest started

1:04:30

happening a couple more salt still took place and

1:04:33

it's like so you know I think I don't

1:04:35

know is is is realize that a smiley face

1:04:37

killer think they do. The gang of kids were

1:04:39

operating but they're also stupid as a kids and

1:04:42

they are taking videos of their assault ensuring messages

1:04:44

on social media on texting. it's other like evidence

1:04:46

of the couple ability like how to get around

1:04:48

that and running in some kids and a a

1:04:51

horrifying story or I would be to imagine living

1:04:53

in this affluent neighborhood I live in an awful

1:04:55

ever had but everything terrorized by like a can

1:04:57

imagine. Awful. Well let's hit

1:04:59

some. You see you have something dead

1:05:02

wrong. I. Still, Is

1:05:07

a huge The stories. I swear to God it

1:05:09

is such don't like a little. British story to me.

1:05:11

So. This is a story comes to

1:05:13

us from one of the or funny

1:05:16

Islands which is off the British Isles

1:05:18

and is a tiny little island as

1:05:20

a population of five hundred people. Okay

1:05:22

a local grocer name's Dan das said

1:05:24

wanted to order of eighties chocolate easter

1:05:26

eggs for his general store except. He

1:05:29

acts only ordered eighty cases of Easter

1:05:31

eggs. Okay, so he's got seven hundred

1:05:33

and twenty or. So

1:05:35

rags. Survives.

1:05:38

The story reminded me because Ramadan is happening and

1:05:40

he sort of place of same time as Ramadan

1:05:42

that I forgot I didn't get a chance to

1:05:45

buy. I love the recess east or south at

1:05:47

Easter Eggs in one of the still out there.

1:05:49

I'm super funny when you mean like the eggs

1:05:51

yeah the when you get the recess you know

1:05:53

they make like the topic Easter Eggs I love

1:05:55

them. Oh Ellen just disappeared. As

1:05:59

a. Up Up

1:06:01

Up Up Up Up. Especially

1:06:03

Like I knew. It I know this

1:06:05

is a go bag of of yes I love

1:06:07

them so much, sees him aside and I went

1:06:10

away. And and sixty percent of yes they are

1:06:12

fifty percent off Now I think I'm going the

1:06:14

grocery store right up and running. Get back on

1:06:16

the for the Solar Eclipse against okay tell me

1:06:18

if you find them. If not, I'll go to

1:06:20

my Cbs and get them for yeah okay I

1:06:22

think there's an entire i'll have like ten his

1:06:25

hips and off right now. But up and go

1:06:27

for and I will tell the story of how

1:06:29

my introduction to chocolate covered peanut butter Easter eggs

1:06:31

of As the Gonna High School the woman growling

1:06:33

Sarah A with Sanyo he. Orders seven or

1:06:35

and twenty these eggs and the entire

1:06:37

population the island is five hundred. The

1:06:39

he's a little I do. He's a

1:06:42

decided I'm gonna rattle off hundred of

1:06:44

them at a time and I'm and

1:06:46

give the proceeds the Royal National Lifeboat

1:06:48

Institution which is apparently lifeboat service operating

1:06:50

around the toast of British Isles and

1:06:52

rescue dozens of people and and and

1:06:54

vessels that are stranded every year so

1:06:56

it was a huge hit. Okay they

1:06:58

raise three thousand pounds and the way

1:07:00

so much money that he had sex

1:07:02

order more eggs to continue the rafol.

1:07:04

And then what happened was word spread

1:07:07

and so his invited to talk on

1:07:09

local radio. It's it's it's just the

1:07:11

most adorable story. After that happened, the

1:07:13

tougher eggs are manufactured by Nestle who

1:07:15

contacted the Sudafed and they said they

1:07:17

would match any donations received up to

1:07:19

ten thousand pounds with the aim of

1:07:22

reaching twenty thousand pounds for Easter Sunday

1:07:24

and Southern of Se Raise It. He

1:07:26

says that miscalculated shipment n n just

1:07:28

turned it into tens of thousands. Of

1:07:30

dollars for the Royal Lifeboat Institute said that

1:07:32

was adorable. Next.

1:07:42

Thing I did, You hear me like an

1:07:45

area? Oh really? Why I know

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I kissing over you you're yelling

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1:07:54

something good as that. Everyone. Has

1:07:57

an area that I'm like no racism.

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No. Matter

1:08:03

what I'm saying that like gospel I like

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Whitney Houston staff is blowing me away.

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But before we go Rob Yeah Tommy

1:08:56

what your favorite Whitney Houston song is.

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I can't even pick one because she

1:09:00

is my actual here are you will

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hear more about it Out Alive South

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She is the first person I idolized

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in my entire life. But what is

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your favorite? Whitney Houston's on A hundred

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percent I want to dance and somebody

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because I will never forget when I

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heard the i think it was her

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first song from her first album. In

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fact I mean. When I saw the

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video for it I like because nine or

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ten years old and he was like who

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is this god as who is is gorgeous

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who is your favorite singer. And I

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