Anthony Goodman, Senior Client Partner & Head of the Board Effectiveness Practice at Korn Ferry, rejoins the podcast to discuss how Engine No. 1, a purpose-driven investment firm with a small stake in ExxonMobil, won 3 executive board seats by identifying the company's failure to evolve and pushing for a move towards renewables. We also break down how climate has come roaring back to the forefront of corporate governance agenda, why inclusion is just as important as diversity in the boardroom and within the organization, and the future of ESG.