Zach Germaniuk is a fiercely anti-authoritarian punk rocker by night and a property rights lawyer by day. In this interview he tells us all about he navigates the paradoxes and challenges of existing in both the rigid, rules-oriented world of legal defense and the chaotic life of a touring rock musician. We also got kinda drunk before we recorded this. Sorry. Sort of.

One minor correction at the end of the show: Pillärs is playing July 8th and Rubber Mate is July 13th, both at Now That's Class!