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Just. A Heads up: This episode
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includes discussions of sexual assault, so
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please take care while listening. Sean.
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Combs has been one of the most
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powerful people and hip. Hop for
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decades. John. Diddy Combs. He's
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also been known as Puff Daddy
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or a Puffy or P. Diddy.
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He's a superstar record producer, an
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artist, and a hip hop mogul.
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That. Is an Brannigan to the staff writer at
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the Post. And. He's. Most
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well known from his work in the nineties
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when he founded the record label Bad Boy
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which sign some of the biggest acts and
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hip hop you know. Most notably and Notorious
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Be I G. Comes. Has
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been added a why my for some
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time, but recently he has been back
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in the headlines first for several lawsuits
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that were filed against him over the
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last few months alleging sexual assaults and
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then just a few weeks ago there
0:54
was another development. To
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raise to homes have one iconic
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music producer tonight! Sean P. Diddy
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Combs is back in the headlines
1:03
as his mansions in Los Angeles
1:05
and Miami are rated by Homeland
1:07
Security. Heavily armored federal agents making
1:09
their way into the home on a
1:11
pigeon drive associated with rap mogul Sean
1:14
Diddy Combs it's production company Bad Boy
1:16
Films. Dozens of agents search the property
1:18
for. A couple weeks
1:21
ago, his homeserve aided by the
1:23
Department of Homeland Security and this
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happened after a slew of lawsuits
1:28
against them have been fouled, and
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these lawsuits include accusations that involve
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physical abuse, sexual assault, and sex
1:35
trafficking. Any mention of sort of
1:37
sexual assault and sex trafficking and
1:40
physical abuse comes from. Me:
1:42
No a set of lawsuits that have all been
1:44
filed within the last. Five. Months
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And these are allegations that
1:48
are explicitly written out in
1:50
those lawsuits. Did. He
1:52
is a really monumental figure in
1:54
here, Pop, and so these allegations
1:56
even before the federal investigation, they
1:58
really did A. To be cast
2:01
as like a C and this
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will especially be true if. Charges
2:05
to come forward. Combs.
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Has denied all accusations made against
2:10
him, but since he's such a
2:12
prominent person in the music industry
2:14
and says these allegations could lead
2:16
to a larger reckoning about. Massage
2:19
any violence and the exploitation
2:21
of women. Were. Almost seven
2:23
years after the Me Too movement
2:25
and the music industry is still
2:27
undergoing this reckoning, that's it's is
2:30
bigger than Diddy. I'm. So.
2:32
The sort of consequences that we saw
2:35
happen and hollywood we haven't really seen
2:37
in the music industry for with these
2:39
accusations against did he and other top
2:41
music execs. The. Entire industry is
2:43
on notice. From.
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The newsroom of the Washington Post
2:52
offices post reports I'm or team
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Powers. It's Wednesday, April tenth,
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Today and explains what we
2:59
know about the allegations against
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Sean Diddy combs and what
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federal agents may have been
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searching. So
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pay me a little bit. Of a picture
3:17
of like Sean Combs and his
3:19
career and why he was one
3:21
of the biggest stars of the
3:24
late nineties Early two thousand. Sir.
3:26
Well, his career really starts out
3:29
with a lot of momentum when.
3:31
He joins the music industry so.
3:33
He quickly becomes known for his ability
3:36
to spot talent and develop it. He
3:38
worked with Marriage, a blog and show
3:40
to see and those were some of
3:42
the biggest or a be acts of
3:44
the nineties and within a few short
3:47
years he sounds the record label bad
3:49
Boy and that very quickly becomes one
3:51
of the premier so hop record labels
3:53
Mostly on the back of Than a
3:55
toy is Baiji also known as Big
3:58
He and he still the guy. It
4:00
as one of the greatest and sees of all time.
4:02
And. We see that not just the
4:05
biggie, but he has a great year
4:07
and a great I for trends, he
4:09
homes a lot of nine keys air
4:11
a classic so. See it. As
4:15
much see. One
4:19
more. Chance hypnotize. these are Assad is
4:21
that if he grew up in the
4:23
nineties, You know you can
4:25
probably recite some fun to back
4:27
to get more attention after the
4:29
east coast west coast rivalry of
4:31
the mid nineties which unfortunately ended
4:33
with Biggies death. but even after
4:36
that did he really breaks out
4:38
as an artist in his own
4:40
right and only becomes more popular,
4:42
especially a sub hop takes more
4:44
of a center stage. With.
4:46
All in pop culture. And
4:48
then he goes beyond just music, gray like
4:51
he was big and fashion. He was big
4:53
in Hollywood and like explained to me
4:55
how he kind of created this like
4:57
empire. Yeah well, he was known
4:59
as a very savvy businessman. From the
5:01
start and you really. See that
5:03
and his ability to leverage his
5:05
popularity and his riches to expand
5:08
as empires. So he moved into
5:10
fashion with the label son John
5:12
I'm and really capitalizes on do
5:14
you know the way fashion was
5:16
saying that and censor so rappers
5:18
right? I. Have to say I think
5:21
back the middle school on I have like
5:23
remember every like ten informal scoring schengen teasers
5:25
and like it was very popular. I mean
5:27
you had white boys wearing do rag. And
5:32
you know. We can partially blamed
5:34
Etti for that. I'm and
5:36
he. Makes these brand partnerships with.
5:38
His Surat so you know he
5:41
adds sort of alcohol and says
5:43
empire and. T. V she's
5:45
on reality shows. He is
5:47
a judge on. Are
5:49
singing competitions so. All
5:52
this combined together by twenty twenty two
5:54
Forbes estimates that is worth as about
5:56
one billion. Dollars. Which.
6:02
is remarkable but also I think
6:04
the reason that number of kind
6:07
of. Surprises. A lot
6:09
of people I would say is that it doesn't
6:11
seem like did he was really. Fun!
6:14
And. An hour out in the world
6:16
and of a relevant. Way in
6:18
the last decade mean what has he
6:20
been up to since that? he. Day
6:22
when he was more of a kind of.
6:25
Public figure constantly interface. Yeah, well, you're
6:27
right that he hadn't been in the
6:29
limelight in the same way you know
6:31
in the nineties we're seeing him. In
6:33
the music videos rate is. So see
6:36
him at industry events like Beyond, say
6:38
Jaycees Grammys branch. but he's not fund
6:40
and producing as much as he used
6:42
to and is not appearing on Tv
6:44
in the same way he's to. He
6:46
did release an album and twenty twenty
6:49
three, but it didn't get as much
6:51
attention as his previous work. He was
6:53
nominated for a Grammy for it, but
6:55
he also, I think quite notably. Own.
6:58
The publishing rights for a lot
7:00
of his artists' work. and so
7:02
there's a lot that he did
7:04
in the nineties that even. If you
7:06
don't see him doing work. Today he was
7:08
so making money from those
7:10
things so that was where
7:12
things were with did/ Sun
7:14
comes up until relatively recently.
7:17
Then you have this series of
7:19
headlines and I think got a
7:22
lot of people's attention. And let's
7:24
start with the news about this
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raid on his. Homes by
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federal agents. Tell me what
7:31
happened there and why is
7:33
the Federal government investigating symptoms.
7:37
So. What we saw was
7:39
investigators found the Department of Homeland
7:42
Security. we saw them conducting raids
7:44
in on did his homes so
7:46
we saw footage of the raid
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coming out of Los Angeles. But
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they're all surveys conducted in Miami
7:53
and this is done in concert
7:55
with local. law enforcement officials the
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point to note that dhs didn't
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formally announce what the investigation was
8:02
about since it's ongoing. But
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DHS is responsible for investigating
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allegations of human trafficking. And
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that seems to be the most relevant
8:12
connection here because there are lawsuits that
8:14
have come out against Combs in recent
8:16
months that allege that sex
8:19
trafficking occurred. Can you explain a
8:21
little bit more about that, what those lawsuits are and
8:24
how they alleged that Sean
8:27
Combs was involved in sex trafficking?
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So there have been six
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lawsuits as of today that
8:34
have been filed against Diddy
8:36
alleging a range of
8:38
abuses, including physical
8:40
and sexual assault and sex
8:42
trafficking in the last five months.
8:46
And in at least three of them, there
8:48
are accusations of sex trafficking.
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The earliest comes in 2003 and
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it was filed by an anonymous
8:55
woman. She was 17 at the
8:57
time. So in her court document, she's
8:59
referred to as Jane Doe. And
9:02
she alleges that Diddy essentially flew
9:04
her out from Detroit to New York,
9:08
where he and two other men and
9:10
there really is no more polite way to
9:12
say this, but she accuses him of
9:15
essentially gang raping her. And
9:18
then she gets put on the flight back
9:21
to Detroit after that. The
9:23
accusations or the allegations that we know
9:25
the most about probably are
9:27
from Cassie who is
9:30
Diddy's former partner, R&B
9:33
singer who was on his record label. And
9:36
she alleged that not only
9:38
had physical abuse and sexual abuse been
9:40
happening for years in their relationship, but
9:43
that he would also traffic
9:46
her sort of around the country that he would
9:49
force her to solicit
9:51
male sex workers and
9:54
sort of coerce her through drugs
9:57
and alcohol to engage in these.
10:02
And finally, we have the most
10:04
recent lawsuit, which actually covers
10:06
a time from 2022 to 2023,
10:09
so really quite recent. And this
10:11
lawsuit was brought forward
10:13
by a former producer who worked
10:16
on Diddy's most recent album. And
10:19
he alleges really similar things to
10:21
what Cassie alleges, that he and
10:23
other staffers were made
10:25
to solicit sex workers for parties
10:27
that happened all across the United
10:30
States. And so even
10:32
though DHS hasn't
10:35
formally announced what the investigation is
10:37
about, you know, we
10:40
have other sources and we have these allegations
10:42
that kind of point us
10:44
toward what some of the concerns there
10:46
might be. I want
10:48
to explain why we're using the names
10:51
of several people here who have alleged
10:53
sexual assault. So the
10:56
Washington Post has a policy of
10:58
not identifying alleged victims of sexual
11:00
abuse without their consent. In
11:03
the case of Cassie, whose full
11:05
name is Cassandra Ventura, and
11:07
Rodney Jones, who is a producer
11:10
who goes by the name Little Rod, they
11:12
were the ones who filed these lawsuits. And
11:16
when it comes to these lawsuits, how
11:19
has Sean Combs and attorneys
11:21
responded to those lawsuits? And
11:24
have they denied the allegations that were made in
11:26
these lawsuits? Sure. They have vehemently denied
11:29
all the allegations. So Combs says that
11:32
pretty much, you know, all of this is fiction. None
11:34
of this is true. Even though
11:36
he denied the allegations with Cassie, he did
11:38
settle that lawsuit the next day. And
11:42
we don't know the terms of the settlement? We don't know
11:44
the terms of the settlement. No.
11:47
You know, he said he wished to sort of
11:49
handle it in an amicable situation.
11:53
The resulting allegations he has flat out
11:55
denied and he's referred to them as
11:57
a cash grab. After
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the break, I ask Ann about what
12:07
federal agents may have been searching for
12:09
in these raids of Combs' properties. We'll
12:12
be right back. So
12:31
if there is the sense that this federal
12:34
investigation is related to some of the circumstances
12:37
described in these lawsuits, like what
12:39
were these federal agents looking for?
12:41
What did they take with them that
12:45
are, I imagine, they
12:48
intend to help aid their investigation? So
12:51
we know the investigation has to
12:53
be pretty far along to get
12:56
to the point of federal agents
12:58
raiding your home. Now
13:00
the affidavit has not been made
13:02
publicly available, but we
13:04
know some things that may be
13:07
relevant because they were mentioned in
13:09
these lawsuits. So for example, Little
13:12
Rod, his former producer, accused Combs
13:14
of having hidden cameras in all of his
13:16
homes. And the footage
13:18
on these cameras were used as leverage over
13:21
people who participated
13:23
in some of
13:25
these alleged sex parties. And so something
13:27
like video footage, if it exists, would
13:30
be really, really important to building
13:32
a case against him. And
13:35
the theme of video
13:37
footage also comes up in some of the
13:39
other lawsuits. So the claims are
13:41
that not only did he allegedly commit these
13:43
acts, but that he filmed them as well.
13:46
Wow. To
13:48
be clear at this point, Diddy has not
13:50
been arrested and he's
13:52
not been charged. What
13:55
do we know about the timeline of this
13:57
investigation or when we might learn more about
13:59
what? federal agents either
14:01
have found or what they believe
14:03
might have happened at some of
14:05
Combs' houses? Well, there's a lot
14:08
here that we don't know, and I think it's important
14:10
to keep that in mind.
14:12
So we do have sources who have told
14:14
us that this investigation is related to sex
14:16
trafficking, but what we
14:18
don't know is how big of a pool they're
14:20
looking at. We don't
14:22
know how big this investigation is and who
14:24
else it might extend to. Now
14:27
the understanding is that if it is a
14:29
sex trafficking investigation, that charges
14:31
could come relatively quickly, and that's
14:34
according to some legal experts that
14:36
we spoke through. And
14:38
the reason why charges might be
14:41
accelerated is because when you have
14:43
a sex trafficking investigation, you really want
14:45
to be able to protect any potential
14:47
victims. But
14:50
we also don't know if there are other charges
14:52
that are being investigated. What
14:56
we've seen in those lawsuits is there
14:59
are kind of nods to other illegal
15:01
behavior. So we don't know
15:03
what the scope of their investigation is. We
15:05
don't know how many people they're
15:07
looking at. And we also don't know what's
15:09
happening behind the scenes. Combs
15:12
is a very rich man. He has the
15:15
ability to retain the best
15:17
legal representation in the country, and
15:19
we're not sure whether they're trying
15:22
to reach a resolution behind the
15:24
scenes that could bypass
15:26
charges altogether. So there's
15:28
truly just a lot of things
15:30
at play. And specifically
15:33
when it comes to this raid
15:35
and the investigation that appears to
15:38
be happening from federal law enforcement,
15:40
has Sean Combs responded to that
15:42
or spoken out at all about
15:44
the raid and about his
15:47
reaction to any potential allegations
15:49
that might be coming? Sure. Well, we
15:51
know through his lawyers, they found
15:54
the raids excessive. They
15:57
thought that it was over the top. deny
16:01
any sort of wrongdoing on Combs'
16:03
part. Now, the message
16:07
Combs has been sending hasn't necessarily been
16:09
a verbal one, but
16:13
we've seen in the days and
16:15
weeks after the raid, we've
16:18
seen him biking across Miami,
16:22
looking very relaxed, he's on the golf
16:24
course. And probably the
16:26
biggest example of that is a
16:29
post that he shared on social
16:31
media on his Instagram page.
16:34
It's a clip of his
16:37
music video for Victory. And
16:40
the clip shows him
16:42
basically outrunning armed police, just
16:45
kind of gloating about emerging
16:48
victorious, right? And
16:50
so he shares that clip with the caption, and
16:52
he's a bad boy for life. And
16:55
so the post
16:58
that he's striking, at least publicly, is
17:01
one of being unbothered
17:03
and defiant. So
17:06
Anne, you alluded to this
17:08
a little bit earlier, but
17:10
these lawsuits and this investigation,
17:12
it's not just about Diddy. I
17:14
mean, obviously he has famous
17:17
friends who spend time around him, and
17:19
it seems like his orbit,
17:23
there are stakes in this for those
17:25
individuals too. Can you describe a little bit about how
17:28
these cases could have an impact
17:30
on other people that we are
17:32
familiar with? Well, it gets
17:34
a bit complicated, so we're gonna wade through
17:36
this, I think, very carefully. So
17:39
there are a number of people named
17:41
in the lawsuits, but not all of
17:44
them have any connection to any illegal
17:46
activity, right? So one example
17:48
of this is Prince Harry is mentioned in
17:51
Little Rod's lawsuit. But
17:54
Prince Harry has nothing to do with
17:56
any of these allegations. He's named merely
17:58
as an example of... Combs
18:00
his release of his influence. You. Know
18:03
member of the royal family has
18:05
been to his house and the
18:07
thing that we have to focus
18:09
on are the people who are
18:11
named as having participated in a
18:13
legit elite illegal activity either. A
18:15
slew. Aiding and abetting or
18:17
being present, So. There's
18:19
a few really big accusations, no one
18:22
that comes to mind. First
18:24
his oeuvre, Pierre who is
18:26
the President of Bad Boy
18:28
Records. She's named as a
18:30
code defendant in a couple
18:32
lawsuits actually and it is
18:34
response has been very similar.
18:36
It so combs his response
18:38
in that he denies all
18:40
of the allegations and has
18:42
called these planes a desperate
18:44
attempt for financial gain. You
18:47
also have staffers who are named
18:49
as code defendants in these lawsuits.
18:52
To these allegations also extend to
18:54
did his family to of his
18:56
sons have been named as co
18:59
defendants in these lawsuits that alleged
19:01
sex trafficking and physical abuse and
19:03
sue a family attorney. They have.
19:06
Denied these allegations me
19:09
know they called them
19:11
manufactured and. Cells.
19:14
With regard to these other parties, They've.
19:16
Either denied their involvement
19:18
or have not responded
19:20
or you know or
19:23
acknowledged allegations. I'm we
19:25
haven't had. Anybody
19:27
who has acknowledged any
19:30
wrongdoing. And
19:32
the thing we have to remember to. Added
19:35
the night as hey day did he
19:37
was. Really well known. Part of is
19:40
one of his personas was as this
19:42
sort of flamboyant party boy figure. Everybody
19:45
in Hollywood wanted to go
19:47
sir the white parties in
19:49
the Hamptons and so insidious
19:52
who's extremely well connected And
19:54
so the question that arises
19:56
is. And how
19:59
many of the. The parties could
20:01
there have been illegal activity and
20:03
who else could have participated in.
20:11
I think a lot of people
20:13
who are either listening to this
20:15
now or who have been seeing
20:17
the headlines about this federated had
20:19
trying com says house that it
20:21
brings to mind are Kelly of
20:23
for See Now we saw that
20:25
unfolds over years or Kelly who
20:27
is now serving a thirty one
20:29
year prison sentence for a conviction
20:31
of Federal racketeering and sex trafficking
20:33
and I want to be clear
20:36
that like that is a completely
20:38
separate case and a completely different
20:40
situation. But I do wonder. Whether
20:42
I'm. Our. Kelly
20:44
and how long it took
20:46
for ah, that conviction to
20:48
happen. Whether that's informing how
20:50
the public is seeing what's
20:52
happening Now with Diddy. I
20:55
think that's certainly possible because
20:57
there seems to be these
21:00
broader similarities. So. As
21:02
you mentioned, it's important to note that
21:04
they're actually know the is no case
21:06
against did he just yet, but we
21:08
have as an ongoing investigation but there.
21:11
Are certainly sort of similarities
21:13
in the circumstances, so. Cities.
21:16
Facing allegations of.
21:19
Abuse and traffic. In that really?
21:22
Runs throughout almost the entirety of
21:24
his career. And that's
21:26
similar to what. We.
21:28
Saw was R. Kelly.
21:31
And. Another
21:34
thing that's relevant here
21:36
is that these. Were
21:38
Federal authorities investigating these
21:40
cases and which speaks
21:43
to their school? For
21:47
and what are the questions? That you're going to
21:50
be asking going for it as all of
21:52
this continues to unfold. So if charges or
21:54
bought forward, what's the scope. Who.
21:57
else is named litter sex trafficking that
21:59
is like a one-person job,
22:02
you know, clearly. R. Kelly
22:06
received federal racketeering
22:08
charges that isn't outside of
22:10
the realm of possibility here
22:12
and there was other illegal
22:15
behavior that was nodded to in some of
22:17
these lawsuits, potentially
22:19
alleged drug or gun trafficking as
22:22
well. And so we
22:24
really have to see what comes forward, if
22:26
anything, and I think from
22:28
there the question becomes, well,
22:30
who else knew or participated
22:33
or looked the other way. Anne,
22:40
thank you so much for explaining your reporting
22:42
on this. Thank you. Anne Branigan
22:46
is a style reporter at The Post. Before
22:54
we go, some news out of Arizona where the
22:56
state Supreme Court has cleared the way for
22:58
a near total ban on abortion. The
23:02
court ruled yesterday that Arizona
23:04
can enforce a law from
23:06
1864 that forbids abortions except
23:08
to save a mother's life. The law
23:11
also punishes abortion providers with prison
23:13
time. It could be weeks before the
23:15
ban takes effect and a state official said that
23:17
she won't enforce it. For now, abortions
23:19
will continue to be available through 15
23:21
weeks of pregnancy. But
23:23
groups in Arizona fighting for abortion access
23:25
are trying to get this issue on the ballot
23:28
in November. They want a
23:30
ballot question that if passed would amend
23:32
the state's constitution to protect abortion rights.
23:35
And today, they said that they've gotten enough signatures
23:37
to put it on the ballot. This
23:40
ruling has also forced some Arizona
23:42
Republicans to walk back their previous
23:44
statements supporting an abortion ban. That
23:47
includes Carrie Lake, the staunch Trump ally
23:49
who's running in one of the most
23:51
closely watched Senate races this cycle. In
23:54
a statement on Tuesday, she said she believes the
23:56
issue of abortion should be decided on
23:58
a state level and not for the state. and
24:01
she called Tuesday's ruling, quote, out of
24:03
step with Arizonans. That's
24:11
it for Post Reports. Thanks for listening. Today's show
24:13
was produced by Saby Robinson with help from
24:15
Emma Talcoss. It was
24:18
mixed by Sean Carter and edited by Lucy
24:20
Perkins. Thank you also to
24:22
Carla Spartos. If you
24:24
are looking for the latest updates on the big news of the day,
24:27
check out our morning news briefing, The Seven. We
24:30
bring you through the seven stories that you need to know about every
24:32
weekday morning by 7 a.m. You
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can listen to it wherever you listen to podcasts. I'm
24:38
Martine Powers. We'll be back tomorrow with more
24:40
stories from The Washington Post.
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