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Of the unlikeliest of heroes:

1:34

Mike Johnson of Louisiana, Speaker

1:36

the House. Defied.

1:39

The right wing. Nut. Bag coworkers,

1:41

And the house overwhelmingly approved aid for

1:44

your could on. Some.

1:47

Other going to try to unseat

1:49

by a judge and. I

1:52

don't you're going to happen and we can

1:54

wait on was or to John Allen about

1:56

what it means for Ukraine. But

1:58

I say why, they're not. Gonna do

2:00

a. For. We my coach Kevin

2:02

Mccarthy on Johnson Eve sixteen. And

2:05

I I A lot of reporting is really

2:07

lousy. They talk about who the key republicans

2:09

are Chip Roy, your Jim Jordan or others.

2:12

None. Of them matter. There is

2:14

one person that matters. That. Will

2:16

assure that Mike Johnson is not

2:18

unseen now and that is a

2:21

game. Jeffries. Game. Jeffries. Ah

2:23

it. It would be a motion of

2:25

a caped chair. Which is when the

2:27

Mccarthy. And all it takes

2:29

is a you know that the person in

2:31

the sheer news and majority be loses For

2:33

five republicans democrats vote against them. it be

2:36

out the won't happen. First of

2:38

all, Jeffries A. I. Think trust

2:40

Johnson even if he just as prose and most

2:42

of his balls. Far. More than he

2:44

ever trusted Kevin Mccarthy. And secondly, you're not

2:47

gonna knock out a speaker, are doing the

2:49

right thing. So. A It's not

2:51

a. And I was not

2:53

a. A. Co leader proposition

2:55

the house. But. It came.

2:57

Jeffries played this shrewdly, He

3:00

is a very proven to be

3:02

a very capable leader is gonna

3:05

be might go Johnson's guarantor that

3:07

the not bags won't get him

3:10

at least for now. Well as

3:12

an American history is replete

3:14

with people have not extraordinary backgrounds

3:16

com and doing a clutch

3:18

him and Grant. Gonna. Comes

3:21

to mind but maybe more anybody

3:23

else could aerodrome and certainly come

3:25

to mind. Peter Indiana A lot

3:27

of the Civil Rights movement, but

3:30

Cindy Lou Hamer com suburbs of

3:32

Washington understood just game ducks. Theory.

3:35

I said either Vanderburgh, Go ahead. I'm sorry.

3:38

I'll get out of that but what up for

3:40

it? New we have people that that of face

3:42

for a moment and somehow not a. Surprisingly,

3:45

me to moments am pretty

3:47

sure it would happen To

3:49

speak a Johnson is unlike

3:51

the rank and file republican.

3:53

It was actually privy to

3:55

the briefings. And I

3:57

think he was. Given. Credit as

3:59

a kid smart enough and i think

4:02

at some level maybe patriotic enough are

4:04

still have about done videos i and

4:06

as other upset about regarded as I

4:08

did wrong but he. He

4:10

did step in and. Sit. A moment

4:13

and. You know that

4:15

got his thing down at the last moment?

4:17

In for that a d should be recognized.

4:19

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4:21

was more. Move by. The

4:23

intel breached is that he got anything

4:25

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4:28

know I am on a everything I

4:31

read. I think that's right and I

4:33

think he does deserve enormous krosa. Think

4:35

President Biden deserves enormous credit? Or

4:37

he stuck with this. He didn't lash out

4:39

when he might have had cause to. And

4:42

you know James, You. Mention the intelligence briefing

4:44

if I were to pick an Mvp.

4:46

of this administration of be the

4:48

Cia Director Bill Burns. Whether it's

4:51

over ago, she east, or apparently

4:53

enormously impressive briefings, he holds back.

4:55

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4:57

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4:59

done a great job and on the

5:01

other side if I wanted to take

5:03

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5:06

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5:08

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5:10

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5:12

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5:17

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5:19

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5:22

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5:24

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5:26

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5:28

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5:30

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5:33

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9:16

Is retired Marine Four Star General

9:18

John Allen who is held command

9:20

post all over the world. Leon.

9:23

Panetta: one of the true wise men

9:25

and American public life. Goal. General

9:27

and an outstanding leader, a

9:29

brilliant strategist and exemplary Murray

9:31

and Quote: it's good to

9:33

have you back, General. So

9:35

let's start with what Congress

9:37

did. After a disgraceful delay,

9:39

they pass the sixty one

9:41

billion dollar aid package for

9:43

Ukraine thanks to the speaker

9:45

Mike Johnson. What? Was lost

9:47

and that long delay and I assume

9:49

we can get the weapons quickly their

9:51

from supplies in Germany and what difference

9:53

you think is gonna miss the first?

9:56

It is great to be back on

9:58

with you our him to Cj. I

10:01

wish I was with him and Denmark or Paris. worry

10:03

as as moment. Me

10:06

to assess as as several

10:08

things I think the. The.

10:11

Front generally held. It's about a

10:14

thousand kilometers the line of contact

10:16

between the Russians and Ukrainians. And

10:19

while the Russians were pushing pretty hard

10:21

and several spots. It's. Generally

10:24

held. The.

10:27

approval of the sixty one billion dollars didn't

10:29

come a moment too soon. And

10:32

you will see relatively soon. I believe

10:34

the leading. Elements of the

10:36

support the on the ground and in the hands

10:39

of Ukrainians will put it to work pretty quickly.

10:42

And it'll give them the the ability I

10:44

think to stabilize the line the front. And

10:48

to a blood. or maybe even.

10:50

A rollback: Some of the Russian

10:52

penetrations the in the Russians. Potent.

10:57

Has been salivating over this kind of

10:59

a development. Here. The the

11:01

great strategic objective of his in

11:03

order to facilitate is operational level

11:06

and tactical objectives. Has

11:08

been just try to stymie the

11:10

capacity of American leadership of the

11:12

Coalition. Of supporting the Ukrainians.

11:15

Because once that occurs, time is no longer

11:17

on the side of the Ukrainians. Europeans.

11:20

Have been able to come together with enough

11:22

support to. Offset. The absence

11:24

of American support so. With.

11:26

The approval of this package and it's rapid

11:28

movement into the hands of the. It's.

11:32

Restores I think Ukrainian sense

11:35

that. The Russians.

11:38

That maintain the stability of the front.

11:41

Of very. Importantly, it sends a very powerful

11:43

message to boot and. That. He's

11:45

not calling the shots in Washington

11:47

anymore. He i am assured a

11:49

it as you say can stand

11:51

any Russian advances they were playing.

11:53

We read a major summer offensive.

11:56

That. Will be much harder now I can

11:58

the Ukrainians act and they were the offensive

12:00

a year and a half ago. if I

12:02

work as well as they had hoped. But.

12:05

With these. This. New ammunition

12:07

drones, aircraft, Weapons Missiles

12:10

as a plausible Kiev could read game

12:12

the offensive actually and push the Russians

12:14

out of some of that territory. Willing

12:17

think there's always going to be. Limited

12:20

Battles These battles and serve as

12:22

a. Quantitative term

12:24

to indicate small actions to be limited

12:27

battles along the line contact for some

12:29

period of time that you made important

12:31

point l and that is a year

12:33

and a half ago. The

12:36

Ukrainians put in a pretty substantial

12:38

push with the idea of moving

12:41

towards. ultimately you pushing the Russians

12:43

completely off of. The. Twenty percent

12:45

of Ukraine that they hold and movie actually to

12:47

the coast and sea of Azov. Everyone.

12:52

Massively. Over inflated their

12:54

expectations for this this offensive.

12:57

This is they didn't have the combat power

12:59

them to push as far as. Everyone

13:02

had hoped or and had been encouraged

13:04

to expect. Only don't have a

13:06

combat our today. This. Is gonna be

13:08

a long struggle. Can be a long fight. And

13:11

the capacity for the Ukrainians to make.

13:14

Limited. Gains over a

13:16

period of multiple offenses.

13:18

Is. Going to be how they'll do this or isn't going

13:21

to be one great push. That

13:23

collapses the front and we have

13:25

this Russian. Collapse along

13:27

the entire from. This Is Not Going To happen. They.

13:30

Don't have the combat power. We've. Not given

13:32

them to support that they need to do that. They

13:35

really needed assault breaching capabilities to

13:37

penetrate the very extensive, in quite

13:40

a in depth Russian complex obstacles.

13:42

We didn't give them that kind

13:44

of. Reaching. Capabilities And so

13:46

they were going up against those obstacles with.

13:49

Some. Optimized forces and he paid a price

13:51

for it. frankly. So. We didn't

13:54

get the expected outcome, but I

13:56

think our expectations were way over

13:58

inflated. So. Al. The Think in

14:00

the future. These. Kinds of

14:02

the limited offenses are going to have

14:04

to be the way the Ukrainians do this

14:06

hold in areas they can. And.

14:09

Achieve of their limited objectives.

14:11

Accumulatively over time,

14:14

To. Have the kinds of effects of they want to

14:16

which is to put themselves in a position where the

14:18

Russians will have a very serious conversation with a about

14:20

what piece my lovely. While. I'm I'm

14:23

I want to pick up of I'm an

14:25

avid reader and Lana and love Anne Applebaum.

14:27

She's been great on this but l A

14:29

column rotten and fifty least a couple weeks

14:31

ago and and which he noting this was

14:34

almost like a World War One grind of

14:36

as Killing Fields. And and and

14:38

wonder to what is Ukraine's real theory?

14:41

A victory. The rest I mean

14:43

the Russians have and been terrible

14:45

system that terrible dictator. They're going

14:47

to throw people in the those

14:49

killing fields. Ah, they don't seem

14:51

to get as much backlash issued. how for

14:53

it always will know about it. So what's

14:55

the theory of of of what mighty called

14:57

Victory for you frame down the road General.

15:01

Well there is a stated theory and

15:03

and are there is potentially but will

15:05

become the reality. As

15:07

time goes on to. Recover

15:09

own the last territory. Of.

15:13

Ukraine. As we have known it, plus crimea.

15:18

And that's just not realistic. Frankly,

15:20

and I love Ukrainians. I I

15:22

support in every possible way. They're

15:25

being able to stabilize the line and

15:27

eventually directing the Russians, but last week

15:30

we just have to be realistic. That

15:33

to they don't have the combat power. Now to

15:35

do that. And. So destabilize

15:37

the line. Achieve what they

15:39

possibly can given the resources that they

15:42

have not give up any substantial territorial

15:44

gains of the Russians over a period

15:46

of time. And I think that's

15:48

that's going to. Give us the

15:51

capacity with his new. Multibillion

15:53

Dollars. As I said, Sixty One

15:55

Billion Dollar. The infusion of

15:58

equipment, the capabilities, To. Bring. Get

16:00

us in a position and in Twenty twenty four

16:02

were. Conversations. Camping and

16:04

to occur on some form of they.

16:07

Have. A cease an armistice, Have some kind

16:09

or another. The. I once ukrainian to be

16:11

successful. I one of the get the crime to crimea

16:14

back. But. We have to be realistic

16:16

about what they can accomplish and I think

16:18

very importantly. The. West has to

16:20

as to be very realistic itself

16:22

and not push the Ukrainians. Into

16:24

military actions were they are just not

16:26

going to be successful. This

16:28

is also as as you know so

16:30

well as as well as know. As.

16:33

Well as a military issue is such

16:35

a as a political issue and I'm

16:37

just talking about the politics are you?

16:39

You always enjoyed a grill I parson

16:41

support on Capitol Hill. That

16:44

was is different Republican party. The. Majority

16:46

of house Republicans: Aid.

16:49

To Ukraine, the majority. Of

16:51

the Republican, Sen. J. Diverse of

16:53

Ohio is a waste of time

16:56

we can't manufacture. Enough. Weapons

16:58

to Ukraine needs elsewhere but leading

17:00

a house republican shares my turner

17:02

and like Mccall allergens and Foreign

17:05

Affairs say some of their colleagues

17:07

you're buying into Russian. Propaganda.

17:09

What are the implications? If there's a sigh

17:11

probe, put an element and one of our

17:13

major parties. Well.

17:17

I think the answer to that is we have

17:19

to deal with the reality is that we face

17:21

and many of them are not dealing with reality

17:23

that we face. Your The

17:26

larger issue of course is that. If.

17:28

You go back and you track. What?

17:31

Food and has done. In

17:33

a period of time immediately following the fall of

17:35

the Berlin Wall and the the end of the

17:38

so called Cold War, He

17:40

has either. By.

17:42

Force of Arms changed the borders

17:44

of multiple countries. In

17:46

the region or interfere directly militarily.

17:50

In the infernal affairs of. Countries

17:52

in that region. So.

17:55

The idea that. In

17:57

some form or another, the Ukrainian. Conflict.

18:01

Is of no value to us. That.

18:03

The Ukrainian conflict is irrelevant

18:06

to American. national interest is

18:08

just wrong. In these

18:11

are be reconsidered and every possible way. And.

18:13

It's it's very clear. That.

18:16

Of there's an important and.

18:19

Persistent. And pervasive push

18:21

by the Russians. To

18:23

so the information sphere. With.

18:26

Doubt about whether the Ukrainians

18:28

can, in fact, ever. when.

18:31

About doubt as to whether

18:33

this this conflict. Is.

18:35

In the interests of the United States or

18:37

more. Us

18:40

Leadership over Europe and the Edu

18:42

and Nato. And.

18:44

Doubt about the weather. Ukraine

18:47

has a legitimate political entity and

18:49

deserves it's independence from. The

18:52

historic Imperial Russia. And all

18:54

of that is coming at us in the

18:57

information space. And. Some people who are.

19:00

Very. Poorly informed on international affairs

19:02

and international relations are buying into

19:04

it. They're. Buying into this.

19:07

Is inherent. Perspective.

19:09

By Vladimir Putin. That. The

19:11

Ukraine doesn't have a legitimate reason

19:13

to exist outside of the Russian

19:15

sphere of. Of Control and Russian

19:18

sphere of influence And that's just not true.

19:20

And. Why would we believe that after so

19:23

many borders have been changed by force

19:25

of Russian armed. With. The depredations

19:27

at it and inevitably accompanied.

19:30

The. Application of Russian force the

19:32

of the things that have been

19:34

done to Ukrainian population, the slaughter

19:36

and the systematic rape. Of

19:39

the Ukrainian popular, why would we believe that that

19:41

would end. Up with the

19:43

earth that to the feet of

19:45

Ukraine Moldova. His next. Georgia

19:48

is next. And. At

19:50

some point in the future should he

19:52

believe he has sufficient support by the

19:54

Chinese. We. Could see him

19:57

becoming. In.

19:59

A Quite. On the issue of the eastern

20:01

flank of Nato. So.

20:03

His track record is very clear. Allen

20:06

James His track record is very clear.

20:09

It's. His intent to control all of the

20:11

near abroad around Russia. Ukraine

20:13

is in his sights right now. Moldova, his

20:15

next Georgia is next. We should expect that

20:17

this will not be the at. And

20:20

for America to believe that this conflict.

20:23

Is irrelevant and somehow.

20:25

Exists. In isolation for how the

20:27

Chinese potentially view. Taiwan.

20:29

In the future. Is. Simply wrong headed.

20:32

It is simply uninformed and are

20:34

misinformed view but it is the

20:36

constant drumbeat of Russian disinformation that

20:39

this the this campaign and this

20:41

this war. Has

20:43

no relevance to American leadership and ultimately

20:45

to Europe. Or some

20:47

Zola and move up front of someone grips

20:49

of course. And let us talk about movies,

20:51

the South China Sea and a solid United

20:53

States Marine Corps. The.

20:56

Media Pass com and on

20:58

his understand and made some.

21:01

Pretty. Significant.

21:04

Changes To the stated mission of the

21:06

Marine Corps. And if

21:08

you could walk so i when you would. First.

21:11

Commission a Marine Corps at that

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new saw in Sao than loved and

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served highs in different fog of

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of a young guy grabbed right now

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Marine Corps you face what was indifferent

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or in court as young person

21:28

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21:30

really important question. and for those of us

21:32

who grew up. In one

21:34

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21:37

the core. For

21:39

me for virtually all of my career. On

21:42

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21:44

The Nations Combined Arms Force and

21:46

Reading. We were

21:48

a force. Of combined

21:51

arms to include really substantial

21:53

ground forces. Complemented by

21:55

very capable. Aviation

21:58

Components. Support. The

22:00

with it and extremely capable

22:02

logistics expeditionary. We.

22:05

Were both tied to the Navy. For. Our

22:07

strategic mobile, the insides of the Air Force

22:09

for rapid. Strategic Air Lift to

22:11

get to a spot where we need to be very

22:14

quickly. Some. And

22:16

that capacity wasn't intended. James for

22:18

us to take on the Soviets

22:20

had on. The. In the

22:23

European Theater just wasn't. In was

22:25

a young author. I did multiple tours. With.

22:27

The Sixth Fleet in the Mediterranean. Because.

22:29

We needed to have We have the

22:31

capacity to dominate. The

22:33

southern portion of the European. Front.

22:37

Of, but I also did a tour in Norway. Her.

22:40

Which was the northern flank of

22:42

the of the Nato front where

22:44

where again maritime forces of which

22:46

the marine corps part played an

22:48

important role. So. We had

22:50

a flank mission during the height

22:52

of the Cold War, but but

22:54

very importantly for all the other

22:56

combatant commanders around the world. In.

22:58

The event of an emergency in Africa.

23:01

Or. In South America Or in Central

23:03

America or in Southeast Asia in the

23:05

event of an emergency. The

23:08

marine for their and we were there pretty quickly. That.

23:10

We got there pretty quickly because we could

23:12

move by, see. O the

23:14

shipping was they are the amphibious shipping was there

23:16

for us to move quickly. Or

23:19

we could move by air. And. So

23:21

they combatant commanders that ultimately held

23:23

responsibility for operations, plans, and contingency

23:25

response around the world knew that

23:28

the the very first organization that

23:30

can call on with met with

23:32

that would come with substantial fighting

23:35

power combat hours. United States Marine

23:37

Corps. So.

23:39

Today. The. Marine Corps has

23:41

been remission. To operate

23:44

in the island chains. Of

23:46

the Western Pacific against The Chinese.

23:48

Know. During the. Height. Of

23:50

the Cold War, we were never mission. We.

23:53

Were never configured to fight the Soviets had,

23:55

or we just work. Because.

23:57

We had to be light. We had the movie had.

24:00

The a combined arms team to deliver

24:02

a lot of firepower very early in

24:04

a contingency. Today. That's different,

24:06

and we've had a number of contingencies

24:08

that have emerged. That. Around the

24:10

world world Record couldn't show up. didn't get

24:12

their. The. So now what's happening

24:14

is so. We're

24:16

We're relying on our special operators. To

24:19

accomplish some of these missions et have

24:22

been traditionally the mission of Marine Corps,

24:24

so I worry. I'm

24:26

not going to criticize the previous comment

24:28

on but I worry that the nature

24:30

of our core which was an expeditionary

24:32

combined arms force in readiness. Also

24:35

known as the Nation's Nine One One Force.

24:37

Has been reconfigured. ultimately. With.

24:40

A very specific mission in the Western

24:42

Pacific to pose a potential for Chinese

24:44

and Russian. And. Is

24:47

it? Just inherently limits the value of

24:49

the Marine Corps to an actual command

24:51

authority into our combatant commanders around the

24:53

world. Well

24:56

I'll add and again up lab or

24:58

panel pretty good. understand I understand what

25:00

the son of a read a lot

25:02

of artists but and and this assistance

25:05

capo an amateur. Whatever. but

25:07

it looks like the South China sea

25:09

as a place and that I'm be

25:12

didn't the a quip from bad things

25:14

to happen and that's downright strikes me

25:16

as maybe not a bad subject direction

25:19

cause battle know when. Very

25:21

good and Afghanistan or of Vietnam. Of

25:23

all of the other places them gotten

25:25

bogged down and are as I don't

25:27

know. Maybe it's just me but at

25:30

the as a form that ice you

25:32

know moving fastened in Brighton things is

25:34

essential. Fatty, It's it's it's it's well.

25:36

you know you call yourself a corporal.

25:38

Minute ago you were personally involved in

25:41

breaking things probably as with the request

25:43

very well. And we

25:45

can break things. But now. We're. Not to

25:47

build a break Things everywhere around the world. Which.

25:49

Was really important to this country, right? and

25:52

we could still have broken things in the

25:54

South China Sea. Me: There's

25:56

a there's an entire lift component.

25:58

Of. Amphibious ship. That are going to need to be.

26:01

Produced. In order to move this

26:03

new force. And. Those ships or anyone

26:05

on the drawing board. So.

26:08

That you know my my concern is that. And.

26:11

This was the an explicit. Investment

26:14

strategy that we would die best.

26:17

To. Invest. So. We

26:19

got rid of a lot of Marine Corps capability that

26:21

you and I grew up with. That.

26:23

Doesn't exist in the Marine Corps anymore. We have no tax.

26:26

In. The Marine Corps anymore. And. We have

26:28

fewer. Your Amtrak's

26:30

the the armored, lightly

26:32

armored amphibious personnel carrier.

26:35

We. Have fewer individual to

26:38

artillery pieces, And. We've

26:40

reduced or aviation. Be Not.

26:42

Because we just did it. Arbitrarily.

26:46

But. Because the commonest plan was to

26:48

divest these capabilities early to be able

26:50

to invest in future capabilities. And.

26:52

One of the most important to the future capabilities

26:55

is the lift necessary to get us into the

26:57

fight. And. That capability is still

26:59

some time off and are so I know.

27:01

I worry about this capability gap that we

27:03

have right now in terms of the nation's

27:06

capacity for contingency response. Well

27:09

at you know at some point or

27:11

the album going com people no matter

27:13

what your words l our was different

27:15

than it was bad. I'm back then

27:17

and right before the pandemic. And

27:20

some for him. My wife and I were

27:22

near Paris island and we went on up.

27:24

To. Twenty jobs are touting

27:26

it and regimental commander gave us

27:29

a tour and I've gotta tell

27:31

ya, these Marines today. On

27:33

Frank three times better than we were

27:35

when I looked at what they were

27:37

throw and what I train. Regime is

27:39

a map, months the i'm just spend

27:41

and four hours and Parris Island in

27:43

his book, a book like an option

27:45

for sense and forty well trained The

27:47

boys is that your observations. And

27:50

I want to be very clear about what I

27:52

have been saying your last few minutes. I have

27:55

not in any way. Insinuated that

27:57

the marine that you were and I am

27:59

and they. There. Is. Any less

28:01

a marine that we put on crisis in in

28:03

he will dream. You. Guys are

28:05

these kids are hard as nails and

28:08

frankly to me there the next greatest

28:10

generation. And. They're going to do. They're going to

28:12

try to accomplish whatever mission we get them. Because. They're

28:14

as good as a ever been in. They're probably gonna

28:16

be even better in the future. So. We.

28:18

Don't have a deficit. Of.

28:20

Quality. For. A deficit

28:22

and capability of the United States

28:25

Marine Today. The. Question becomes how

28:27

we made all the right strategic

28:29

decisions. On the right, right. Nature

28:31

of the Corso at best fulfills

28:33

are inherent responsibility. To. Be the

28:35

nation's expeditionary force and readiness. He had

28:38

only just with trying paper new listeners

28:40

and it on my permission but I

28:42

i I just want to make popcorn

28:44

Tara have you made an important moments

28:46

and find him to death? These these

28:49

youngsters are getting our or is to

28:51

moon. Compared. To the train

28:53

on that.is is is pretty damn good

28:55

and very good about it. I hit

28:57

it. it is as we say in

28:59

the core as you would remember. These.

29:01

Young greens are as hard as woodpecker. lips. A

29:04

single ethnic Ls by want a woman

29:07

a lot trained the adults I'm trying

29:09

to a lesson and it London mayor

29:11

was always actively trying. Party aren't another

29:13

least on recently ours would Akron Zips.

29:16

Acid? Yeah. This

29:18

is an awful difficult transition from a

29:20

general that I was. Point. Out

29:22

that among we are many many

29:24

achievements. was it about a decade

29:26

ago you drafted for President Obama.

29:29

The. Architecture for and he

29:31

possible Israeli building in.

29:34

A. Court. And. I'll

29:36

as we get further from that do

29:38

we get further from their possibilities of

29:40

even more remote. With. The

29:42

October Seven Hamas terrorism attack

29:45

and massive. Israeli response. or

29:47

as some smart years or observers like the

29:49

New York to suggest, maybe this could provide

29:52

an opening. Well

29:54

we have an opening I think you the. Know.

29:56

That the question is does this

29:58

moment. Created an opening

30:01

in the context of the larger

30:03

commitment to a two state outcome.

30:06

Vs to your question whether of

30:08

the reality. Of achieving that

30:11

moment, it is possible and I

30:13

think those are. Two.

30:15

Different things. This

30:17

administration as did the Obama

30:19

administration. And. I was really honoured.

30:22

Frankly, in this Is Nadia advertisement I

30:24

was really honored to have the opportunity

30:26

twice. once as a serving officer, the

30:28

free star deputy it's and com and

30:30

and later working directly for John Kerry

30:33

twice to spend months and months in

30:35

the in the Middle East and in

30:37

the West Bank. Working to

30:39

engineer that this to state outcome. But.

30:43

The reality is several full. Turns.

30:48

Out the baby was never. Committed. To

30:51

supporting the U S objective of a

30:53

two state after. And

30:56

that the problem with that the was that

30:58

while we had. In. Some

31:00

respects a verbal.

31:03

Commitment. To support a

31:05

America's effort. To. Work with

31:07

the Israelis and Palestinians who create this

31:09

to state outcome. Of the reality

31:12

was that that they were never committed to. And

31:15

one of the most difficult aspects of this

31:17

l While we all want it, At

31:19

while we all I think intellectually

31:22

understand the necessity for it and

31:24

make a point here the necessity

31:26

of a to stay outcome I

31:28

think goes. Directly

31:30

to the long term strategic

31:32

viability of the Jewish democracy.

31:35

The. Long term viability of Israel.

31:38

Is tied in my mind irrevocably.

31:41

To. Elevate the A. Legitimate

31:44

to stay doctor. And

31:46

I lied. I will never fall away from that. Because.

31:50

The Jewish Democracy Israel.

31:53

Living. Next to a sovereign. Independent.

31:57

Non hostile Palestinians.

32:00

The. Is. The only way both of

32:02

those people can go forward together. Now.

32:04

The reality, of course, is that. On

32:07

the west bank. The. Illegal

32:09

Jewish settler communities. That

32:12

have put roots down all over the West bank.

32:15

And when you consider the presence of

32:18

the. And. The increased construction

32:20

of the separation walls. It

32:23

makes it very difficult to

32:25

envisage. A contiguous Palestinian

32:27

state on the West Bank. And

32:31

and even during the height of our work,

32:33

you know you talked about the architecture that

32:35

we bill. even during the height of that

32:37

work. We.

32:40

Did. Not consider. The

32:43

Gaza Strip at that particular moment Because

32:45

of from tend to purposes, it was

32:48

a Hamas dominated black box we couldn't

32:50

see into. That. It

32:52

was impervious. To our efforts

32:54

to work with the Palestinians And the Israelis for

32:56

some kind of an outcome. So it was really

32:58

off the table. But

33:00

on the West Bank. We

33:03

went. Of. Very far. Distance

33:06

down the road towards having a

33:08

viable security plan that could then

33:10

support. The. Political and Diplomatic

33:13

Resolution or what are known as

33:15

the Final Status Issues. That.

33:17

Would give the Israelis and Palestinians

33:19

with American support and international. Support.

33:22

And to a lesser extent. Give. Us

33:24

all the confidence that this was

33:26

a possibility. I. Think it's

33:28

a it's going to be a very distant

33:30

possibility going forward. The

33:33

Palestinian Authority has been stopped on

33:35

very hard. Since the

33:37

some of October on the West Bank and

33:40

when people talk about. What?

33:42

Lily Post Conflict Security.

33:45

Environment looked like in Gaza.

33:49

There are folks who very quickly point

33:51

to. The likelihood that

33:53

that the Palestinian Authority will pick that up.

33:55

Well. And they never wanted to pick it

33:58

up to begin with and remember from us. Is.

34:00

A very different outfit than the than the

34:02

pillow was on the West Bank. You'll recall

34:05

when Com Os was was elected democratically to

34:07

to leave the West Bank, they took the

34:09

Philo leadership to the top of the highest

34:11

building on Gaza and threw them off. So.

34:15

There was no love lost between the

34:17

two and the idea that the Palestinian

34:20

Authority elements. On

34:22

the West Bank could somehow now

34:24

reinvigorate a Palestinian. Security

34:27

entity. For

34:29

the control of the West Bank

34:31

or on of Gaza Strip, on

34:33

top of which them would become

34:35

some form of a post conflict

34:37

Palestinian political outcome. Is very

34:39

hard for me to see. The L

34:41

a piece of this is that. That

34:43

some us is exists within

34:46

a resistance narrative. Hamas

34:48

and Hezbollah. Or. Resistance

34:50

entities. To. The existence of

34:52

Israel. And if

34:55

we think that somehow. As

34:57

a result of this campaign and Gaza

34:59

that resistance narrative has been diminished, one

35:01

with. We. Need to reconsider that

35:03

consideration. Because. I think them. Now

35:05

with that the casualties and the destruction.

35:08

Of the the sense that the

35:11

of a. Of

35:13

anti semitism that has tragically exploded around

35:15

the world, were suffering through it, right

35:17

down. United States. Another wave of it,

35:19

and we think that that resistance narrative

35:21

has been reduced one bit. As

35:23

a result of this campaign and whether this

35:25

campaign will eliminate com os. And. The

35:28

I'll Qassam Brigades. As a. Physical.

35:31

Threat to Israel. Where.

35:33

We just need to reconsider those those assumptions.

35:36

Sorry. go on some. Of. Us As

35:39

a sense of now it's as a pressing

35:41

the very realistic both I'm it is for

35:43

your expertise himself and so pervasive. Let me

35:45

try one more chance and traffic to you

35:47

our luck with the crisis in Ukraine and

35:50

guys and biggest most powerful. Country. In

35:52

a world we have a national election. Or

35:54

they'll be a lotta rhetoric on China. What

35:56

would you hope? We. Would be addressing

35:58

what are you fear? We. Could be

36:01

addressing the my cause more problems. Will

36:04

China is really fundamentally different and so

36:06

many ways. and just the last few

36:08

years because of now. Cheating.

36:10

Paying and a third. Third,

36:13

Term. You

36:16

know one who's intel was the president premiere before

36:18

him as young as a man and others. You

36:21

know, they would serve maybe two

36:23

terms, the sense of collective Chinese

36:26

leadership. Was. Was

36:28

largely understandable. It was deliberate.

36:31

it was. Something

36:34

with which the United States could find.

36:37

The capacity to have an eye on. We've.

36:40

Now seen, the shooting thing has

36:43

accumulated more power unto himself than

36:45

any other Chinese leader except mouser.

36:47

don't. And. Perhaps even more because

36:50

mounted on never as a nuclear arsenal,

36:52

which by the way, they're expanding dramatically.

36:55

And we've also seen a shrinkage and

36:57

the system of government at the Chinese.

37:00

Have for have traditionally.

37:02

Have. Benefited from instead of having a

37:05

collective leadership. Which. Is what

37:07

the Soviet system was as well. Replaced

37:09

now by Vladimir Putin and the Chinese

37:11

system of leadership which was a collective

37:13

leadership. We now have solitary

37:16

leadership in both of those countries, with

37:18

she clearly dominating. The.

37:20

Decision making. Up, But he's

37:22

also got a lot of problems in China that

37:24

are. Really significant

37:26

for him to have to deal with

37:29

our some very significant demographic problems. As

37:31

on economic issues he has to face. The.

37:36

His his capacity to expand

37:38

Chinese influence. Of

37:41

as men are certainly less than

37:43

he had anticipated. Them.

37:46

And the United States both of and

37:48

the Trump Administration before that but the

37:50

Trump administration particular in the by demonstration

37:52

of held a Chinese to account on

37:54

a train issues. So. I

37:56

I think that the. Look.

37:58

My personal view. Is. That. We.

38:01

Must find a way in the Twenty first century.

38:04

For the United States and China to be fellow

38:06

travellers and the Central. But. We

38:08

have to be realistic about where our values

38:10

are, where the Chinese values are, and how

38:12

we can. Find. A way

38:15

to. Coordinate.

38:17

Perhaps. Cooperate with the Chinese,

38:19

but hold them accountable for

38:22

those dimensions of trade imbalance.

38:24

For. Their violation of human rights, The.

38:27

The teams that we have seen and democracy

38:29

of Hong Kong the potential threat to Taiwan

38:31

or them accountable for that. And. Not

38:33

stray from our values going forward. And.

38:35

Yes, there will be a lot of

38:37

rhetoric there always is. and these these

38:39

campaigns that will attempt to vilify the

38:41

Chinese. And. The one thing that. That

38:44

that. I think I know a little

38:46

bit about. Is. That when.

38:49

Relations. Between States are

38:51

founded and largely defined by

38:53

confrontation. The.

38:55

Distant from confrontation, the conflict is

38:57

a very short. Very. Slippery

39:00

Slope. And. And

39:02

I do know personally. That. When you

39:04

draw first blood. Walking. Back

39:06

from that moment. For. To great

39:08

states when when blood has been drawn and

39:11

James talked about the South China Sea that

39:13

perhaps as one of the most unstable. Situations.

39:16

Where are too great countries?

39:19

Could. See first blood be drawn. Stepping.

39:21

Back from that moment will be

39:24

very difficult. So. We've got

39:26

to manage the rhetoric. And

39:28

while we should hold the key Chinese

39:30

accountable for trade imbalances and Ip theft,

39:34

And how they may ultimately use a

39:36

i know for good but the on

39:38

to are different. We

39:40

also have to recognize are not going anywhere. And

39:43

we're going up to find a way as we did with

39:46

the soviets during the worst part of the cold war where

39:48

we couldn't talk with him and have of the they have.

39:51

A means of a of coexistence. I think

39:54

we need to have the the willingness to

39:56

talk to the Chinese going for all accountable.

39:58

But. Be able to talk with them going forward, not

40:00

let live. The really

40:02

vitriolic conversation about the

40:04

Chinese. A blood out. The Potential

40:07

for us to still have a conversation with. Some

40:13

general. A are highly

40:15

educated sign thoughtful general officer

40:17

at bag of them are

40:19

Korean. War. We thought we did

40:21

something Israel in the late nineties with

40:23

a hood Brock and you know in

40:26

the implant man in the new came

40:28

in at Friday bit are roughly it's

40:30

all going end up is it ever

40:32

stops in the same place others in

40:34

Colombia. We'd won a Nobel prize in

40:36

out of the. Resolve the

40:38

conflict with a fork. Of course we

40:40

did no such thing. It's still raging

40:42

down their job, worked in Afghanistan and

40:45

d d you know, It in.

40:48

Your we after friend referred said it

40:50

is good that war is so terrible

40:52

over grow to love it so much

40:55

try to put in the content of

40:57

the human attraction for was. What?

41:00

Keeps dragging us when we seek

41:02

to escape. We get dragged back

41:04

in. cities shift and it's everywhere

41:07

in a while now. And what

41:09

is that? What? What is it

41:11

and draws human beings Says god

41:14

awful thing. Will

41:16

let me be the question of the century. To

41:21

as he says right on Youtube General in The Hinterlands

41:23

and As As An. Entire

41:25

show that stamps and yeah, Madam

41:28

Diplomacy is hard. Diplomacy.

41:30

Is always hard because for

41:32

diplomacy to be successful. One.

41:36

Or both sides needs to be

41:38

willing to accept risk. And.

41:40

Be willing to accept it to him to

41:42

be vulnerable in the face of a potential

41:45

opponent or maybe even an enemy. And.

41:47

So for many. Countries

41:49

in the world or for many of

41:52

the antagonists the proposed to the. Leaders.

41:54

Of countries. Rather, Than be

41:56

willing. To. Assume

41:59

some level. Grass weather than to be

42:01

willing to. Politically paint

42:03

themselves by trusting an opponent or

42:05

an enemy. They. Go to

42:08

the first next easiest solution.

42:10

In so many of these cases which is

42:12

the employment of security forces. To

42:14

oppress the population. And.

42:16

The employment of military forces to

42:19

secure their borders or to conduct

42:21

aggressive war. So in

42:23

many respects. It's. Often easier

42:25

to employ security or military forces

42:27

than it is to engage in

42:29

the much harder. A

42:32

process of constructive diplomacy.

42:34

Were that. Hours Multiple states

42:37

or bilateral engagements can find a

42:39

way to move forward developing trust

42:41

except that there will be a

42:43

vulnerability in the process of this

42:45

trust and not have. The.

42:48

Military solution being the first button

42:50

pushed. In. The Relations between

42:52

states and I think this. That's.

42:55

One of the problems you know the i stayed sad at

42:57

the top. Of a global

42:59

system. Which for

43:01

many, many years emphasized

43:03

diplomacy. But as

43:06

we have begun to withdraw

43:08

in our presence. Around

43:10

the world as our own diplomacy

43:12

has suffered, we seen the rise

43:14

of strongman. They're always

43:17

strongman. We always we seen the rise a

43:19

strong man. We have seen artery interstates gather

43:21

more. Our. And. When they do

43:23

and they are unconstrained and not held to

43:25

account. What

43:27

they'll do frequently as to avoid that

43:30

force which is. Best

43:32

suited to accomplishing their objectives, which

43:34

is security forces and military forces.

43:36

And I think James, That's exactly

43:38

the reason that we're seeing this

43:40

now, the World Order which ultimately.

43:44

Issued the idea of the use

43:46

of military forces the first. Option.

43:49

In the Intercourse of states in

43:51

the world. That. So that

43:53

system has begun to break down. And

43:55

it makes it much easier now for states

43:57

to use military force on each other. The

44:00

on their people and not be held

44:02

to account fourth or that that I'm

44:04

very satisfactory answer for my answers about

44:06

that he would be intimate with me

44:08

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44:10

comin' be openness and reading about war

44:12

one and redone pulled. It

44:15

out the sleepwalking into it in

44:17

you know most of history had

44:19

really big and bad evil people

44:21

it Stalin and weird Hitler we

44:23

had tojo and was struck me

44:25

as i started thinking about is

44:27

none of these people were particularly

44:29

bad. People in a bow had

44:31

to combat acquainted and monarchs and

44:33

but for yourselves of wasn't you

44:35

know and and realm of sad

44:37

that people was all was not

44:39

horrible. The kaiser was worse than

44:41

most but about the you'd be

44:43

on antibodies top ten. Lists the

44:45

British Wilson was it's In which

44:48

has lapsed into this.damn thing. I

44:51

mean, I understand how we got him to World War

44:53

Two. But. A

44:55

Just what scares me

44:57

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44:59

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45:02

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45:04

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45:06

said it's too easy. Solutions List:

45:09

Just go in Hamburg dumb and

45:11

kill a million fucking people. That

45:13

the great idea. Well.

45:20

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45:22

the name of the battle. Now I'm

45:24

having an outside moment here, but the

45:26

summit row. Trying to think of myself

45:28

over a million of course killed at

45:30

least twenty million. Secret your own everyone.

45:33

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45:35

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45:37

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45:39

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45:41

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45:44

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45:47

Europe would be in shambles and twenty

45:49

million people would be done. To

45:52

your voice. And I think

45:54

that as because more in that

45:56

period of time was an alternative

45:58

to the poem. The. And.

46:01

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46:03

be. Fulfilled and

46:05

ultimately be secured by this the

46:08

strength of arms rather than the

46:10

softness of diplomacy that was the

46:12

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46:15

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46:17

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46:19

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46:21

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46:24

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46:26

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52:27

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52:29

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I now James for our listener

57:20

questions. And. Are we really do

57:22

have a thing for our listeners. They are

57:24

so good they are so smart there so

57:26

challenging gym and started New Jersey was asked

57:29

you out had a. Political. Strategists

57:31

concerns look at the margin of error

57:33

and a bowl. Of hundred

57:35

three percent margin of error can make

57:37

a world of difference and how you

57:40

interpret the results well. Problem in get

57:42

a little or came here because a

57:44

question lot people have some when you

57:46

say to them the era. Back

57:49

to the margin of error is plus

57:51

or minus three. Understand that the cop

57:53

says six. But

57:55

one. That that cannot.

57:59

Stand. Going. The be to hearts

58:01

on Bob Seger are any any of

58:03

these guys would tell you? it's the

58:05

problem builds a job Bows Plus or

58:08

minus one. Is actually

58:10

substantially better than it. Balls plus

58:12

a man story. Is.

58:14

So let me in. Different polls

58:16

have different methodology, some about are

58:18

some of that taken, some tend

58:20

to be midday and what our

58:23

finances as you aggregate it in

58:25

a word and gotta things as

58:27

happen. To. Me in

58:29

modern campaign coverage is.

58:32

How aggregation we used to do and Ninety

58:34

Two, but we did it on our own.

58:36

But I think these are more that the

58:38

trend lines over a period of time. Where.

58:41

You back gate a bunch of polls in

58:43

Vr could tell you didn't go to need

58:45

Selwyn which ones have been most accurate but

58:48

sometime this he has always not as accurate

58:50

as Splashes Bows added actors next year spoke.

58:53

About kids are you? But but. I

58:56

have found one of the

58:58

more. I'll say annoying.

59:00

One of the great misconceptions. his tone is

59:02

for com not very good I don't have

59:04

the power is any darrow worst and eight

59:06

it was it and turn into century be

59:08

honest with ya thing is. I

59:11

think I'm more or less been pretty

59:13

instructed. It can get it down to.

59:17

A half a percentage point but safety protocols

59:19

and they were not bad way it will

59:21

not wrong and twenty twenty two people just

59:23

and read I'm. I think the problem

59:25

is not dead people. Read to Poland and only

59:27

read enough. Oh so by enough attention. Don't. Have

59:30

said. That the contrary. And do

59:32

they under no you're right. They

59:34

underestimated fines vote margin by a

59:36

little bit and twenty twenty but

59:39

got a basement be right. Actually

59:41

right. I mean Hillary did. when

59:43

the L they have any in

59:45

a van I agree L and

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be precision. you just gotta be

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make you know around a thing.

59:55

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courage and go there Al and

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questions. Why? Don't the

1:00:20

Democrats betray Leonard Leo was spinning.

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like some of the people he contributes to.

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policies. And. He finds them any

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supreme court level. And

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1:04:07

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1:04:09

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lemole nets I guess. A good point.

1:04:18

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Houston Texas Am going to Houston Texas

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is weak see of my dear friend.

1:04:25

Bill. Campbell who I have been friends with

1:04:27

for seventy years. So this is not the

1:04:29

same bill, but he asked. James.

1:04:32

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1:04:34

says to me I guess is close

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in September and Trump insisted Rfk Junior

1:04:38

be included a the debates I should

1:04:41

biden response. Ah, First

1:04:43

of all, I don't. I think is unlikely was

1:04:45

going to be a debate. But. In

1:04:47

any event in a we we go back and

1:04:49

forth and Rfk James I think more like be

1:04:51

it may be hurt and trump more than that.

1:04:54

Biden. There's some evidence of that. I'm still

1:04:56

more of the he hurts biden more. What

1:04:59

we need to find out is what happens

1:05:01

to ten percent now. Ill

1:05:04

will he be at five percent in

1:05:06

October. And where will that five percent

1:05:08

come from? But. I you know your

1:05:10

bill. I don't think there's gonna be a debate on

1:05:12

they are of case. Well

1:05:15

as I eat out of nowhere may not

1:05:17

him to say. That. He

1:05:19

may hurt trump morning by and but

1:05:22

I don't have any a marked man

1:05:24

my reasoning is us and our think

1:05:26

the weird because he's very weird got

1:05:28

in the way to the democrats in

1:05:31

is just makes him into crazy and

1:05:33

weird. Because. Or

1:05:36

this is our give me Margaret. There's

1:05:38

a pool voters and I cannot tell

1:05:40

you would percent the on knows more

1:05:42

than two percent, probably less than twenty,

1:05:44

but there's some. There's a lot arranged

1:05:46

data just of the fuck the whole

1:05:48

thing mentality. God damn it. I hate

1:05:50

everything. In. Bugs Not going to get

1:05:53

any of advice. Right

1:05:55

if you just hate the world.

1:05:57

If you're and in south if

1:05:59

you pay. Taylor Swift and

1:06:01

you Hate. The

1:06:04

entire world. He

1:06:07

are things that are as

1:06:09

case luminous. Is

1:06:11

actually attractive to you in some

1:06:13

way but I may have a

1:06:15

is Elena I think that we

1:06:17

think is we where the old.

1:06:20

That the Kennedy name whole some

1:06:22

magical sway. A main.

1:06:25

Sub. Two thirds of democrats or know

1:06:27

when Kennedy was. It was

1:06:29

hard for us. To.

1:06:31

Com for him That but there I

1:06:34

get Roman. Him. Would

1:06:36

good into Kennedy name do Joe Kennedy

1:06:38

of Massachusetts in a don't Hide primary.

1:06:41

So. I bought by a Cut Dogs.

1:06:43

I'm do I say I notice a

1:06:45

bird com phenomenon not. But

1:06:48

as a decrease in this is a

1:06:50

more attractive thing to hims yeah I

1:06:52

said I He kissed the a few

1:06:54

most. You know he

1:06:56

abusive in there and there and and aca.

1:06:59

Right and are probably the issue of their

1:07:01

some ways of. James.

1:07:04

John in Chicago, Illinois. Said.

1:07:06

You projected to President Biden them. Issue

1:07:09

you said is not get support from

1:07:11

black voters that he needs. Do

1:07:14

you think I guess you can dress epic

1:07:16

inversely or trump lose some of the single

1:07:18

issue voters that he needs to win back.

1:07:20

The. Presence. John. I'm quite sure

1:07:22

which single issue voters you're talking about. But.

1:07:25

I think he's more likely to lose a. Small.

1:07:27

Band of Haley voters. But James you take

1:07:30

that? Does

1:07:33

it is a question that are

1:07:35

race? Who's were someone Raspyni put

1:07:37

it in Bergen? Biden is not

1:07:39

going to replicate his Twenty Twenty

1:07:41

coalition. Which. Was seventeen

1:07:43

percent. Share. Of under

1:07:46

thirty, any got sixty two percent of

1:07:48

Under Thirty Rock. The bike share was

1:07:50

twelve. Any got

1:07:52

ninety? Percent maybe

1:07:55

ninety percent in change of the

1:07:57

backbone he's not going to replicate.

1:08:00

I don't think our a these two are much worse

1:08:02

than that now. A

1:08:04

suspect. It's a reasonable bleed to

1:08:06

believe that some of that will

1:08:09

come back, But the what's really

1:08:11

Happening years? he's over performing in

1:08:13

over sixty five. And

1:08:15

he's probably got our own perform with

1:08:17

white voters. So.

1:08:20

The. Coalition's.

1:08:23

That they change over a period of time.

1:08:26

And. Similar coalitions that we saw

1:08:28

in two thousand made going forward turned

1:08:30

out to be not exactly. First.

1:08:34

Year. And. Are

1:08:36

at nothing to question is right on the

1:08:38

money. And I'm skeptical that

1:08:40

the president can replicate his twenty

1:08:42

twenty coalition and numbers would under

1:08:45

thirty and black board and do

1:08:47

see he gonna do it seems

1:08:49

to be on track to do

1:08:51

that. I'm went over sixty five

1:08:53

in seem to be on track

1:08:55

to do better. would would ride

1:08:57

voters but I would caution everybody

1:08:59

we have a big the pawnee

1:09:02

does it in half think it's

1:09:04

trump is have this vulnerability that.

1:09:06

The question is if a go

1:09:08

ask you something who you would

1:09:10

you go after Trump? the Republican

1:09:12

Party. It. As

1:09:15

a good said, easy a choice. I think

1:09:17

there's something to be said for far. Too,

1:09:20

the Republican brand doesn't really stand

1:09:22

for anything anymore. And

1:09:25

I think we have a golden opportunity

1:09:27

here to to really do significant damage

1:09:29

or above the branch. but I have

1:09:31

to tell you and read or out

1:09:33

oppose a long period of time. In

1:09:36

one of the thanks is hapless disturbing. Is.

1:09:39

Democrats would have a five

1:09:41

point advantage on party Id

1:09:43

self the spot close to

1:09:46

been impressive voters. And

1:09:48

Orthodox is bonkers. Yes, that is

1:09:50

dissipate. It's now fifty fifty.

1:09:53

Air and I think the democrats have day

1:09:55

not just or after Trump but have to

1:09:57

go after the whole republican. Brian. Wally.

1:10:01

And Calistoga, California says Truman turn

1:10:03

his campaign from. I'm just mild

1:10:05

about Harry. One I actually was.

1:10:07

I'm just wild about Harry. To

1:10:09

give em hell, harrys it. The

1:10:11

rails. Building Voter enthusiasm. Jack Do

1:10:13

nothing, Congress. Go on the back

1:10:15

in the session and May June

1:10:17

Thirty a stops Oui, mais forty

1:10:20

hours by the vivid degenerate that

1:10:22

kind of enthusiasm. Or civil

1:10:24

or wally I gotta say a

1:10:26

as your by example make two

1:10:28

hundred thirty eight stops he just

1:10:30

and not innings. And the way

1:10:32

he is going to generate enthusiasm is one

1:10:34

way. Go. Annulled Trump and return to

1:10:36

the chaos B or C. E

1:10:41

S. Is eager. make

1:10:43

twenty three point a stops and me

1:10:45

go back to conversation. We've had a

1:10:47

new show on very in in good.

1:10:49

There's a clutch. The

1:10:51

in the as an asset when

1:10:53

he can do it in. These

1:10:56

always been. Car let

1:10:58

you know is unlimited In

1:11:00

terms of this humanity is

1:11:02

empathy. I think his resume

1:11:04

his experience the what he

1:11:06

is not. Is a

1:11:08

great candidate. A never has met

1:11:10

is not good on the attack. You.

1:11:13

Know he just isn't. So.

1:11:16

They just have to work around it but

1:11:18

knit that they're not going to mail a

1:11:20

new to whistle stop trying to avoid an

1:11:23

animal untarnished around. You know they can do.

1:11:26

Some. Things better. Than

1:11:28

good in there's a limit as to what take

1:11:31

an accomplice but way trump is not as great

1:11:33

as at either. So as. You

1:11:36

know that let's understand what we say, what we

1:11:38

face. Where do you want to continue? which at

1:11:40

the diary want go back to a job for

1:11:42

years ago is pretty clear. that

1:11:44

we want to continue have today, but this

1:11:47

is not going to be an inspirational campaign

1:11:49

at all. John

1:11:51

in Sonoma, California. Last question

1:11:53

says his Trump. As

1:11:56

the same for white evangelical christians,

1:11:58

obviously he's guilty, but of. And

1:12:00

be willing to the end. Well.

1:12:05

As hour ago I guess it.

1:12:07

I've seen a lot of pushback

1:12:09

on what exactly is a white

1:12:11

evangelical christian. And. It

1:12:13

seems to me it to predict

1:12:15

what was happening is the self

1:12:18

described. Would. Allow

1:12:20

they didn't practice christianity I'd have

1:12:22

been been said that that some

1:12:24

a person's own I did trump

1:12:26

let me to post on christian

1:12:28

person on that one piece clearly

1:12:30

of him for good Catholic education

1:12:32

Peers to most. On Catholic

1:12:34

human being that you could imagine.

1:12:37

And. In everything is in

1:12:39

the magisterium to church but.

1:12:42

As a day in and we talked about doing

1:12:44

isn't that outweigh able to do it. With

1:12:47

with. The

1:12:49

The. Institutional. Church church

1:12:51

attendance everything is is going

1:12:54

down around the country and

1:12:56

was less is. It.

1:12:58

Is completely I think anti christian

1:13:00

but that's just where we are

1:13:02

and other scientists have a real

1:13:05

crisis and in all across Christianity

1:13:07

today and you know like everything

1:13:09

else trump expose a lot of

1:13:11

the lot a rotten American? Yeah

1:13:13

and if you want to really

1:13:15

find out about what motivates as

1:13:17

evangelical christians reached him out, burn

1:13:19

his book. I was a guest

1:13:21

in this program. he grew up

1:13:23

an evangelical. Families reminisce are really

1:13:25

really believe that book. Keep. Those

1:13:27

keep those questions, Cullen, We didn't get

1:13:29

years this week. will try to get

1:13:31

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