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Hello everyone, and welcome back to

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the iHeart podcast Speaker Series. I'm

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Greg Ashlock, president of the iHeart Influencer

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Network, standing in for Will Pearson

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today. So it's my distinct

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honor super excited about this us to

1:00

host the happiest podcast roundtable

1:03

ever about Magical Rewind.

1:05

It's one of our newest podcasts of the

1:07

iHeart family. It's featuring conversations

1:10

around iconic, wonderful world of Disney

1:12

productions and Disney Channel original

1:14

movies. It's a walk down nostalgia, laying

1:17

and it pretty much puts a smile on everybody's face.

1:19

I know when I started listening to him it did for me. With

1:21

us today and part of the Disney

1:23

DNA are the hosts of the Magical Rewind.

1:26

So Will Fredell Hey,

1:28

how are you? You may remember Will from

1:30

Boy Meets World, amongst a million

1:33

other things that he's done. And Sabrina Brian

1:35

Sabrina Hey probably

1:37

remember as one of the stars of the Cheeah Girls

1:39

franchise and a million other things as well.

1:41

So, guys, thanks so much for joining us

1:44

today to have this conversation about Magical Rewind.

1:47

Thank you for.

1:47

Shoving us our pleasure. This

1:50

is so exciting. We have

1:52

started this podcast what feels

1:55

like so long.

1:55

Ago, just because our level of anticipation

1:58

and excitement to get it out there for

2:00

the fans.

2:01

And now we're here, and

2:04

it's just it's so incredible.

2:05

That we're we're iHeart

2:07

has welcomed us with like the biggest open

2:10

arms.

2:10

I just it's been so magical

2:12

already.

2:13

We're super excited to have you in the family and

2:16

the you know, we just met for the first time, you

2:18

know, a few minutes ago, and when

2:20

you both popped on the screen and you're smiling from ear

2:22

to ear. I wouldn't have expected anything different

2:24

from the host of Magical Rewinds. So, uh

2:27

so I'm ready to jump in as you guys are.

2:29

Can we jump in so everybody can get to know a little bit more

2:31

about this podcast than about a few of you.

2:33

Let's do it, do it, so Will,

2:35

I'm going to start with you.

2:37

I'm always so curious when there's

2:39

a podcast that comes out like this, how

2:41

did the idea start?

2:42

Like?

2:42

How did this all come about? Can you give

2:44

us a little bit of a background on that.

2:46

I can.

2:47

So.

2:47

I was doing another show called Podmeat's World.

2:50

By the way, he won't say it, but ridiculously

2:53

successful, like he came out of the gate.

2:55

Yeah, so doing very

2:58

very well. Thank you. Yes, we've been with we partnered

3:00

with iHeart.

3:01

We were all deliriously happy with how Will

3:03

Pot has been doing, and we.

3:06

Started to get more and more.

3:07

We've also do live shows and been doing conventions,

3:10

and especially at the conventions, more

3:12

and more people were asking me about

3:14

my Date with the President's Daughter, which is a movie

3:16

that I did for Wonderful World of Disney back in nineteen

3:19

ninety seven. It's had this amazing

3:21

resurgence, and I was so

3:24

I'm a big fan of podcasts.

3:25

I listened to them every day if I'm not recording

3:27

them, which now I am more often than not.

3:30

And I was on a walk with my dog,

3:32

which is where I always listened to my podcasts,

3:35

and I just started the

3:37

Yeah, just started thinking about

3:39

Wonderful World at Disney and my date

3:41

with the President's daughter, and then I started thinking about

3:43

all these old school Disney movies.

3:46

And I literally on the walk shut

3:48

off.

3:48

I think I was listening to a Podmeats World edit that

3:51

we were doing, so, you know, we also have to listen to our to edit

3:53

everything down. So I was listening to an edit

3:55

and I paused it and called Amy

3:57

Sugarman on the walk and said, Hey,

4:00

I got something. I think I want to rewatch

4:03

Wonderful World of Disney's and she went, I

4:06

love that idea. Now we got

4:08

to find you a co host.

4:09

Literally that fast. It was that quick, and

4:12

that's how it started.

4:13

You know, not to denigrate the industry in any

4:15

way, shape or form, because it's an industry I've been in my entire

4:17

life and I love but the industry's changed a

4:19

lot and a lot of times, when

4:21

you're dealing with giant corporations

4:24

like Disney or anything like that, you come up with

4:26

an idea and you can't even get a know for

4:28

a year. Whereas with the thing that

4:30

I love about iHeart and Amy and all the people

4:32

were working with is she was like, this is great,

4:34

let's do this.

4:35

I love this, and it was that fast.

4:37

The resources of a big legacy

4:39

company, but the mentality

4:41

of a startup and Amy as an activator,

4:44

so she just jumps on things, which that's what we love about

4:46

Amy. But so let me ask you a question. Was

4:49

the catalyst though, the

4:52

confidence you got from Podmeats World

4:54

that like, there is a marketplace for this, there's

4:56

a passion for this content that I didn't

4:58

realize existed, and so I think that

5:01

there's a even a larger marketplace

5:03

for us to expand into.

5:04

Yes, it was definitely.

5:05

It was definitely helpful, you know, knowing how

5:07

I mean, First of all, Podmeats World, Boy Meets World.

5:09

We have the greatest fans in the world. We

5:12

always have. They've been so

5:14

loyal to us, They've stuck with us for thirty

5:16

years. They're coming back to us in

5:18

droves for Podmeats world.

5:20

We're just having so much fun.

5:22

That coupled with the resurgence for my date

5:24

with the President's daughter, because we knew we wanted to start

5:26

with that movie. And then when

5:29

Amy called me and said, we talked about

5:31

co hosts, We talked about different people, how

5:33

we were going to go, what direction we're going to go. And Amy

5:35

called me and said, you heard of the Cheetah Girls

5:37

and they went, of course, I've heard of the Cheatah

5:40

Girls. Everybody's heard of the Cheetah Girls.

5:42

And she went, how about Sabrina? And before she finished

5:44

the name, I was like, perfect, that's perfect.

5:46

We're got, We're in, We're good.

5:48

And that was let me ask you about that. I love

5:50

how quick that all happened. But I got

5:53

a back up because when I listened

5:55

to your first episode good by the way, it's

5:57

only been on for a few weeks. Yeah, and so

5:59

like when you did your first

6:01

episode, I didn't know that the two of

6:03

you hadn't worked together or didn't know each

6:06

other like personally. So I

6:08

listened and I thought that the chemistry and

6:11

just kind of like the connectivity, was that

6:13

something you guys had to work on a while. Is it just

6:15

natural? Because to me, it felt

6:17

like that you guys had been friends for a while if you listen

6:19

in.

6:20

Yeah.

6:21

Well, so I was lucky enough to

6:23

get the call and was given

6:25

you know, kind of the groundwork

6:28

of what this new podcast idea was

6:30

and that it would be with Will Fredell, and I'm

6:32

like, boy meets World, Yes,

6:36

I will take that meeting.

6:37

Are you kidding me? I know what they are doing

6:40

with you.

6:41

Know, their their podcast, you

6:43

know, I mean, pod meets World is

6:45

giant, I think on

6:48

the I went and did a little bit on their actual

6:50

podcast, and I was the one that let

6:52

them know they actually have a radio advertisement

6:55

that I had been listening. I had heard in

6:57

the morning several times on

7:00

and Kiss at Them, which is the radio station

7:02

I listened to in the morning on my way to work

7:04

or you know, out taking my kids to school,

7:07

things like that, and.

7:09

They didn't even know that it was, which was so

7:11

funny.

7:11

On there we have a radio,

7:14

we have a radio spot.

7:15

She's like, yeah, like

7:17

every morning I hear it.

7:20

And so anyway, I had known about the

7:22

podcast obviously.

7:23

Grew up. I was a Disney kid through and through.

7:26

I watched the channel probably every

7:28

day after school, and so I grew

7:30

up on Boy Meets World and you

7:33

know, loved it, and I've loved how

7:35

they've transitioned that into a podcast

7:37

and being able to go back and one

7:39

of the things that we love doing on the podcast

7:42

is kind of letting the viewers

7:44

dive into the fact

7:46

that we haven't known each other for a long

7:49

time.

7:49

We are getting to know each.

7:50

Other, and through these movies and rewatching

7:53

and getting each other's reactions and

7:55

learning about each other, we've become.

7:57

Friends throughout the process.

7:59

And that was something we were really adamant

8:01

from the beginning is you know, we

8:03

had.

8:03

Only talked a few times and we.

8:05

Met actually face to face at a photo

8:07

shoot, and through that we were talking

8:09

about we wanted to be very organic and

8:12

we weren't going to try to put across that we've

8:14

known each other for years and

8:17

talked about that get to know you process

8:19

should definitely be a part.

8:20

Of the podcast.

8:23

But after the first taping, everyone,

8:25

all the producers from High Heart that we're listening

8:28

in, we're saying, it sounds

8:30

like you guys have known each other for years, like

8:32

your chemistry.

8:33

It was so easy.

8:34

It felt like talking back to

8:37

a frund that I've had for a while

8:39

and you know, still learning

8:41

about him.

8:42

He you know, he's not a big fan of musicals.

8:45

I'm a giant fan of musicals, and so,

8:47

you know, we talk about that in the in

8:50

our podcast of what draws

8:52

us in and you know, what's special

8:54

to us and how we can kind of banter

8:57

back and forth of those kinds of things. And

9:00

he's got a great sense of humor. He's so hilarious.

9:02

He has me cracking up the whole time.

9:06

And it shows that you guys both have a passion

9:09

for the project too. Like when you start talking

9:11

about the films that you're going to

9:13

talk about today, both of you kind of light

9:15

up on the air, like you can hear your voice

9:17

getting excited to share some of the experiences.

9:20

And it's great that you guys have this common passion

9:22

behind the podcast.

9:23

Well it's also you know, just piggybacking off

9:25

of what Sabrina said, you know, Podmets World.

9:28

One of the reasons that people love podmeets World so much

9:30

is because they can tell that we grew up together.

9:32

You know, Daniel Ryder and I have known each other for thirty

9:34

years. It's effortless. We're family

9:37

and we're using that word properly. A lot of people throw

9:39

that word around, but we really are. Sabrina

9:41

and I met and we as we were talking the

9:43

first time, we were like, we can't fake this.

9:46

You can't fake Hey, we've known each

9:48

other forever and this is the way it's going to

9:50

be. It's like, so let's go exactly

9:53

the opposite. Let's let people know we don't

9:55

know each other. Let's let people know, especially

9:57

when it comes to these movies that are movies you watch

9:59

as a kid, we're like ten twelve years

10:01

apart, even a little bit farther. That's night

10:03

and day when it comes to Disney

10:05

Channel and the movies that you watch. So

10:08

my Disney Channel movies and Disney movies that

10:10

I grew up with are different than her Disney Channel

10:12

movies and what she grew up with.

10:14

And so we were like, let's lean

10:16

into that. Let's lean into.

10:17

The getting to know you process because

10:20

everyone people aren't stupid, and and fans

10:22

of podcasts especially aren't stupid, and they.

10:24

Can tell when you're faking it.

10:26

So it's like, we're gonna we're not gonna

10:28

fake this, We're gonna just get to know

10:30

each other.

10:30

The entire time.

10:31

I'm gonna be sometimes the curmudgeon old

10:34

guy going, what.

10:35

The music's too loud? I don't understand this movie,

10:38

and and.

10:38

She's sometimes gonna be going, God, this this

10:40

movie is so old.

10:41

I don't understand that.

10:43

And we wanted that to be what people

10:45

experience. So as we're getting to know each

10:47

other, that's happening.

10:48

More and more.

11:06

Serena, you brought something up that I have to stop down

11:08

on that part about you hearing it on

11:10

Kiss FM. That's actually our secret,

11:12

Sauce at I heart too, is that we've got this massive

11:15

broadcast network to tell people about

11:17

the amazing podcast that we have. So it's

11:19

just built in marketing engine. And so I love the

11:21

fact, like that's

11:23

awesome.

11:25

So it's just.

11:25

Baland exactly how it was.

11:27

I was driving and went, what I

11:29

need to hear this, you know what, I'm like cool,

11:32

So I definitely clicked on

11:35

it, started it subscribed, it worked

11:37

one hundred percent.

11:38

I am like so sold.

11:40

That's great, Sabrina, what was it

11:42

like?

11:43

I think a lot of people would be interested in this growing

11:45

up in the Disney family, Like from an

11:47

insider's perspective, what can you share with us?

11:49

You know, to be because there's this you know, this

11:52

expectation that Disney does things a certain

11:54

way, Like what can you share about that?

11:57

You know, I I love being a part

11:59

of the family. I Disney

12:02

puts out nothing but good messaging.

12:04

And you know, even at a younger age,

12:07

you knew that you were a part of, you

12:09

know, for the Cheetah Girls, we were a part of kind

12:11

of the beginning of a girl power

12:13

movement, you know, just really leaning

12:15

into inspiring young

12:17

girls. But another part

12:20

of my experience was

12:22

before I'd been auditioning, I'd guest starred on

12:25

several different things, you know,

12:27

within the Channel and or on ABC,

12:30

and you walk around the

12:32

stage and you would see

12:34

so many of the young actors that

12:37

were what's called triple threat, so they were they

12:39

weren't just acting, They could dance,

12:41

they could sing. There was just so many of

12:44

them, especially when I joined

12:46

the Channel and at the time Cheetah

12:48

Girls was really the first big.

12:51

Musical that they put on as a d com.

12:53

And yet when you walk around obviously

12:56

the sets, there were so many of them

12:58

that could do well. They were multifacet

13:01

they could do a lot of different things, and it

13:03

was awesome to be at the forefront of

13:06

when they started to really lean in

13:08

and give their channel stars

13:10

opportunities to sing on

13:13

you know, albums like Disney Mania, which

13:15

was a full soundtrack of Disney

13:18

Channel stars that were remaking movies

13:20

from the Disney you know, cartoon

13:23

movies, the classic the actual animated

13:25

movies, and they were redoing them in their

13:27

own way, you know, whether they're making a song

13:29

into a rock song or a fast

13:31

song into a slow song. And

13:34

so that was kind of the beginning of

13:36

all of that. And then it comes to High

13:38

School Musical and now Descendance,

13:40

which, by the way, I've said it so many times,

13:42

I'm such a huge fan of the Descendants

13:44

now.

13:44

And that's from magical rewind

13:46

podcasts.

13:47

Literally I've never watched it before

13:49

and now I'm a giant fan.

13:52

I can't wait to watch all of them. But now

13:54

you're looking at the channel and they have so many

13:56

artists.

13:57

Olivia Rodrigo, I mean, it's

13:59

like saying to know that I was at

14:01

like the beginning part of that. So,

14:05

you know, being a part of the

14:07

Disney Channels like being a part of iHeart

14:09

It's a giant, huge,

14:12

mega machine that just knows how

14:14

to do it right, and that that's one thing

14:17

about the Disney Channel that I will always be appreciative

14:19

that I got a chance to work with a

14:22

company that just nails

14:24

it out of the park every time.

14:25

Was there like training and education? Was it more

14:27

like being part of a university than it was like,

14:30

okay, just this episode was there

14:32

that go to Disney School, Go to Disney

14:34

School?

14:36

And I don't know, did you feel that will as

14:39

you go along you got better? As

14:41

I went along, I would be around other you

14:44

know, channel stars that knew how to do press

14:46

better, knew how to you know, how to walk.

14:49

The red carpet a little bit better.

14:50

But it was kind of trial and air that there just certainly

14:53

wasn't like a sit down school process.

14:55

But I think being around you know, when

14:57

you come across somebody who's been on the channel longer,

15:00

you kind of watch how they do it

15:03

and start sort of get your own

15:05

stride, but you know, learn from each other

15:07

because we were all you know, so many people

15:09

on the channel as you're working are just so young,

15:11

and a lot of times it's like your first big

15:14

thing to do.

15:15

So a question for both of you when you

15:17

have your guests on is it. You know,

15:19

for the Disney does it feel more like a

15:22

fraternity and sorority of like

15:24

friends instead of guests. You call them guests, but

15:26

are they really because it seems like it's a small

15:28

world. Yeah, you know, everybody.

15:30

Knows each other.

15:31

It is.

15:32

It's you know what's funny is is it's there's

15:34

there's two.

15:35

Kind of schools going together, two

15:37

fraternities going together, because you have

15:39

the one that's certainly the Disney family. And

15:42

when you're in that Disney family, it is you

15:44

get the secret handshake and it's like you're going

15:46

from one fraternity to another across the country,

15:48

but you're still you've you've gone through the same

15:51

thing, so you know each other. But then on top

15:53

of that, you also have the added fraternity

15:55

of being a child actor.

15:58

So there's there's kind of the double

16:01

Hey, we've been there, we know what you've

16:03

been through, good and bad. Because there's

16:06

parts of being a child actor that are the greatest

16:08

thing you could ever have in your life.

16:10

It is phenomenal.

16:11

There's parts that are really really terrible,

16:13

and then there's everything in between. So when

16:16

you're dealing with people that have some of

16:18

the same life experiences, even if they're younger

16:20

than you, older than you. There is that kind

16:22

of winking and nod of hey, you know, I've been

16:24

there. I mean William Daniels, who played mister

16:27

Feenie on Boy Me This World, going to be ninety seven

16:29

years old, he still gives us

16:31

the kind of hey, I was a child actor.

16:33

I've been there. You know, he'll say that to us.

16:35

So that's something that it does. It bonds

16:37

you. And the second you bring

16:40

on any of these guests.

16:41

We've talked to people from Brink, We've talked to people

16:43

from the Descendants, We've talked to people. I mean, it doesn't matter

16:45

who we bring on. You're starting from

16:47

a place of I know.

16:49

What you've been through. I know it.

16:50

It's like I know how much fun

16:52

it is. I know this kind of the sum of the stories

16:55

you have. So let's get into it. So

16:57

there is that kind of camaraderie that's instantly

16:59

built in when these guests come home.

17:01

Yeah, you can feel it. There feels like just

17:04

a natural camaraderie. Two quick things,

17:06

One question.

17:07

For you Will, and then we'll bring.

17:09

A question to both how different

17:11

is it rewatching and

17:13

talking about films now at a different stage

17:16

in life than when you went through it, because when you were talking

17:18

about My Day with the President's Daughter, you're

17:20

like, I haven't seen that film in like years,

17:23

but it was such a big film for you. How

17:25

different is it rewatching and now

17:28

than what you thought, you know when you saw it ten fifteen

17:30

years ago.

17:31

Yeah, I had not seen My Day with the President's Daughter,

17:33

I think since it came out or close to it.

17:35

So that was ninety seven, so almost thirty years.

17:38

It's strange. I always tell people

17:40

it's like watching It's

17:42

like you have whole movies, but there

17:45

are hole movies of you that everybody

17:47

got to see. So when you see you

17:49

know, when you watch your whole movies, your birthday

17:51

parties when you're eight nine years old, you don't remember

17:54

the party, you don't remember even the video,

17:56

but you might have memories of what president

17:58

you got. I mean, there's so that's what it's like. Watching these

18:00

movies is or watching Boy Meets World. When

18:02

we do that, you don't necessarily

18:05

remember the shooting, you don't remember the episode,

18:07

but you might remember something that happened on the set that

18:09

day.

18:09

You might remember, oh.

18:11

Yeah, that's right, that guest star and I ended up going

18:13

out one time, we had a date or we had dinner,

18:16

So it brings back something to

18:18

where then it opens a whole new line of memories.

18:21

It's it's very interesting to

18:23

see I have home movies from the time

18:25

I started professionally acting at ten years

18:28

old to now that

18:30

I can turn on and stream whenever I

18:32

want, and it's really kind of an.

18:33

Interesting, interesting experience.

18:36

Yeah, and I think, really, I think that's

18:38

definitely something that our podcast

18:41

is really a little bit different for

18:43

us because we have our own experiences

18:46

like that, So we have a little bit more

18:48

intel when we bring those guests on to ask

18:50

them, like, we know, other stuff

18:52

happening on backstage, you know, what was

18:54

this like, or when you were filming at that you

18:57

know location, or you know Will

18:59

talking about well, on our first

19:01

episode, he talks about how exciting he was,

19:03

how excited he.

19:04

Was to work with the giant actor.

19:06

So when we know that someone else has done

19:08

that, you know, we

19:10

asked that question, you know, whether it was in that

19:12

movie or not, because that we

19:15

know from experience when it was our

19:17

time, how big it was for

19:19

us in our career at the moment,

19:21

what we learned from it. So I think

19:24

with our podcast, we get to bring

19:26

that special element versus

19:28

it just being rewatching the movies,

19:30

maybe having a guest on kind of going

19:32

through it, but to not really have that experience

19:35

yourself. That's something that I feel is

19:37

a little just extra sparkle that we bring

19:39

to our podcast.

19:40

And the one thing Disney does almost better than anybody

19:43

else is no matter when

19:45

you watch one of their movies, you're

19:47

gonna get something different out of it. So if

19:49

you're eight years old watching a movie, you're

19:51

gonna get one thing. If you're fifteen, you're gonna get

19:54

something else. If you're twenty five, you're gonna get something else.

19:56

If you're forty seven, you're gonna get something else.

19:58

So every time you watch these

20:00

movies or these TV shows that Disney is putting

20:02

out, it changed. When I was

20:05

watching Boy Meets World back in the day,

20:07

I was identifying with my character and Corey

20:09

because they are closest in age. When I'm watching

20:11

them now, I'm identifying with the parents. Eventually,

20:14

god willing, I'm gonna be old enough to then be identifying

20:17

with mister Feenie. You just everything

20:19

you watch your you're watching from

20:21

the generation that that you are at

20:23

the time, and that's one thing that he does

20:25

almost better than anybody else. So I

20:27

had never seen these d coms. So

20:29

now I'm watching through the eyes of the parents as opposed

20:32

to watching eyes of the kids.

20:33

It's or there's things that you you

20:35

pick up on when we're watching Brink. I'm I'm

20:38

asking, why is that kid's helmet

20:40

not locked in? Where is the safety patrol?

20:43

You know?

20:43

And it brings like a funny element

20:45

because you're you're thinking and I

20:48

probably never noticed. And if I did

20:50

notice when I was watching it back in the day, I

20:52

probably thought it was cool. Now I'm

20:54

like, somebody get on that kid

20:56

and buck his freaking helpt, you

20:58

know. So it is those kinds

21:00

of things that add a little bit of a funny twist

21:03

to it because we are seeing it and it's totally

21:05

different set of eyes this time around.

21:07

Hey, last question, just because we're running

21:09

out of time and see you guys can answer this one,

21:11

either one of you or both scripted

21:14

versus unscripted. You've done both,

21:16

like your thoughts and preferences,

21:19

Like I'm just curious for somebody that grew

21:21

up that we know you from a scripted world, but now

21:23

you've played an unscripted like, I'd love

21:25

to hear your thoughts.

21:28

I'll go first because I Will's got so

21:30

much more experience than I do.

21:31

This is super new for me on the podcast

21:34

world. I love it.

21:36

I first of.

21:37

All, love that I'm in my own

21:39

home and I'm able to not I don't have.

21:41

To drive all the way to LA That part

21:43

is amazing.

21:45

But I feel really free and able

21:47

to express my thoughts

21:49

with my opinions.

21:51

Keep it fun, keep it light.

21:52

That's how I am, you know, super laid

21:54

back. I will stay differently

21:57

on Unscripted. When I was on Dancing with the

21:59

Stars, I love that part

22:01

so much because I was on like a competition

22:03

show. I felt really guarded

22:05

because that was also the first time

22:08

I did the show was when they first started

22:10

having chat forums and

22:12

I was dumb enough to go in one and check

22:14

it out. And you know, what I

22:16

would say on camera seemed a

22:18

little bit more competitive than what I wanted

22:20

it to come across, you know, things like that. So I

22:22

felt really guarded here, especially

22:25

because there is no competition. We are

22:27

just here to have fun and and you

22:29

know, bring back the incredible

22:32

memories.

22:33

I feel so free and able to

22:35

really just kind of be myself on camera.

22:38

I obviously love acting, That's what got

22:40

me in the industry. I love petraying a character.

22:42

But I'm having the time

22:44

of my life doing this, and I'm so thankful

22:47

that my Heart's given me this opportunity because

22:49

I feel like I've been doing this like

22:52

I've that I found a niche that I never

22:54

realized I would love so much.

22:56

That's great.

22:57

Anything you would add to that, well, script it is

22:59

a great way to disappear into

23:01

another character. Unscripted is a great

23:03

way to disappear more into

23:05

yourself.

23:06

That's how I would say it.

23:08

Nice see you look at that.

23:11

I felt like you had prepared for that. You didn't even

23:13

know you didn't even know what the question was going to be. But I hope

23:15

that's pretty good. Listen. Really enjoyed

23:18

the conversation with both of you today,

23:20

looking forward to future episodes. Thank

23:22

you so much for joining us, and for everybody

23:24

that was able to join and listen in today.

23:26

Thank you, and we'll see you again next week.

23:28

Thanks everybody.

23:29

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