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well, hello everyone i'm james, dobson

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and you're listening to family, talk a listener-supported

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hello everyone and welcome to another

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edition of dr james dobson's

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family talk i'm roger marsh

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today you will hear part two of the conversation

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we brought you yesterday featuring chris

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february from moody radio interviewing

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our own dr dobson about his forty

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years in the broadcasting industry on

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the second installment chris will ask dr

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dobson about his famous interview with ted

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bundy as well as some other intriguing

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questions well let's get right into it

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here now is part two of chris favorites

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interview with dr james dobson here

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dobson family talk

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what pleasure to have doctor james dobson with us

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today we're finding a little bit more about what goes

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on behind scenes were just on about laughter

1:02

and tears i ,

1:04

think that what people are looking for and this can

1:06

happen with radio because it's only

1:08

the voice but if you've just got your

1:10

voice and you're talking with somebody

1:12

else radio is so personal

1:15

a medium that's why it can

1:17

go so deeply and i've heard

1:19

you probably have gotten letters like this

1:21

are emails of people are saying was driving

1:23

down the road as in my pickup truck and i

1:25

heard this or that conversation

1:27

with that person and i had to pull over

1:29

because i was so gripped

1:31

by it the you love those kinds

1:33

of responses night i do

1:35

i am thinking of one woman

1:38

who was working an

1:40

adverb large companies

1:42

companies we were talking about had really gripped

1:44

her and she

1:47

got to work and see was

1:50

overdue she was late and

1:52

she would not get out the car

1:55

tell she was through listening to

1:57

us on focus on them sandwich in

2:00

finally we finished and she

2:02

popped outta the car and

2:05

all over the parking lot people

2:07

were popping out the their cars because

2:09

they were all so captivated

2:11

by what was me said there

2:14

and , so it is the

2:16

essence of what radio

2:18

is supposed to be in is why i love

2:21

it i love as i under

2:23

as liked the television

2:25

but it's a whole lot of fall

2:27

or fall i get bored with

2:29

that i love

2:31

radio because it is so personally

2:34

television is performance you know

2:36

it's eight minutes and will be right back

2:39

radio is more the

2:42

a purse know kind

2:44

of thing i mean people

2:46

on street that i've never met they

2:49

know my dog they know my

2:51

kids they know my wife

2:53

they know what i did last summer it

2:56

is far more of a relationship

3:00

then whereas television is a

3:02

day remember when you fell off a horse race

3:05

hide out nobody else does

3:09

there , know i have so many questions

3:11

that i want you to answer and you

3:14

have been on treadmill every day

3:16

and i don't mean i mean literal treadmill

3:18

you do this every day

3:20

reigns vs on

3:23

in the beginning beginning

3:26

i had heart attack i decided

3:28

to do to every single

3:30

day and i've done it now this

3:33

is as twenty fourth year or

3:35

that i'm done i'm exercise before

3:37

that in fact in was

3:39

playing basketball when i

3:41

had the heart attack so i've

3:44

always loved the exercise

3:46

and love competition the exercise

3:48

played tennis before that my dad

3:50

started teaching me played tennis

3:53

when was eight years old and

3:55

as sold that has always

3:57

been part of my life but so

3:59

when a bad had a heart attack

4:02

said doctor came at about midnight

4:04

and we talked about what has happened

4:06

to me and he

4:08

told me that it it would

4:10

really help me if i really got into

4:13

a daily exercise

4:15

routine and i decided

4:18

well that's what taste to stay alive whirlwind

4:20

so i've exercised

4:22

by forty five minutes a day almost

4:26

, day from that time to this

4:29

an ad my cardiologist

4:31

told me the other day day

4:33

had just done an exam on me

4:35

and my heart was functioning like that

4:37

of us have a younger man that hadn't

4:40

had heart attack then he said

4:42

there's i know that to give

4:44

the lord lot of credit for year

4:46

being alive then i agree with

4:48

that but i can tell you you

4:50

learned lot of it by exercise

4:54

and exercise just stayed with

4:56

that in my heart

4:58

is still functioning like that of is

5:00

the have is man and

5:02

i'm grateful for

5:05

who do you miss the most of all a voices

5:07

that are out there that are have been

5:09

silenced now as far as their

5:11

know what we can't ask chuck colson

5:14

question about this that of the other thing who

5:16

do you miss the most well

5:18

he's one arm

5:20

he and i would talk every two or three

5:22

weeks about ,

5:25

was happening in the country in an

5:27

election and other things earns

5:30

deeply spiritual things as well

5:33

well i just love that man

5:35

another one zaid when zaid to

5:38

both those guys were like brothers to me

5:40

i says the top the program

5:42

that i feel like your brother

5:44

to me but that those two guys

5:46

had a great impacts have

5:49

aaron rodgers was on our board

5:51

on directors and

5:53

a was absolutely amazing

5:56

he joined the board there

5:58

and instantly change

6:00

the nature of the whole

6:02

board i , mean that

6:05

they've they've changed their spiritual

6:07

views or what have you but they

6:09

just loved each other

6:11

and a different way in the

6:14

he made a great contribution on my

6:16

life i do miss both those guys

6:19

you know what does to that you

6:21

mention the

6:22

the common denominator that they

6:25

shared was they they had great

6:27

voices to they had this presence

6:29

they , this prosthetic

6:32

does kind of ministry in

6:34

the culture as well as in the church

6:36

but they'd also been through an awful lot of pain

6:40

adrian rogers and his wife lost

6:42

a baby early

6:44

, and i think it was

6:46

that event in their little philip i

6:48

think it was losing him

6:51

him really caused him to have

6:53

this tenderness in pulpit although

6:55

you know your favorite be very strong southern baptist

6:57

convention and chuck colson

6:59

as well you are you can't go stronger than the marine

7:02

and you know how tough he tough

7:05

and yet there was this tenderness to

7:07

him you agree that pain in

7:09

the life of leader can take

7:11

them to have a different well

7:13

in sense than and so there's no

7:15

doubt about that chris as those

7:18

two guys along with my dad were

7:21

three them had dad

7:23

were impact on me and

7:25

chuck one i'm afraid

7:27

to tell me that he thought was wrong

7:31

adrian and man and he

7:33

and i had some wonderful

7:35

talks together i feel

7:37

for men especially who

7:39

don't have anybody in their

7:41

life like that the

7:43

kid who will love them to

7:45

will tell them that they're a

7:47

little bit off track but

7:51

also were will tell

7:53

you when you're doing things right

7:56

i had a lot of those guys in my

7:58

life let

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me ask a question about the transition

8:03

l a i don't ask this because

8:05

i'd have you know what you tell us something

8:07

you've never told anybody before but

8:10

, i recall one of the sayings

8:13

you know you think of bill bright campus crusader

8:15

crew and and other organizations

8:18

that faced a really difficult time

8:20

transitioning to the next phase

8:23

your belief with focus

8:25

on the family family

8:27

you really want to use set in

8:29

set the the

8:31

transition early on because

8:33

you really wanted that to go well

8:36

and

8:37

in some ways it went smoothly and in

8:39

other ways i sense there is still

8:42

a little regret with the

8:44

at how all of that were you

8:46

know that it could have gone better quote unquote

8:49

how you look at that today as you look

8:51

back at going from focus to

8:53

family top top

8:55

is that was the other than a loss

8:58

of my dad that was the most painful thing

9:00

in my life because i

9:02

had for more than ten

9:04

years prepared for smooth

9:06

a i knew

9:09

at time would com or when they

9:11

was time to go and i wanted to i

9:13

that one that time

9:16

came and i

9:18

we did a lot talking about it we had

9:20

big manual that we had

9:23

worked out the in the i thought

9:25

i was very much in harmony very the board

9:28

in anticipation of

9:30

that m i

9:32

had told the board that

9:35

the i thought it was time for me

9:37

to go but i wasn't ready

9:39

yet and that i

9:41

told them that it would be a

9:44

maybe six months as

9:46

surely now are approaching hours fiftieth

9:48

wedding anniversary and i thought that would

9:50

be a good time but i said i guess

9:53

i just don't feel at the lord has said

9:55

now and yet

9:57

i was approaching it's

10:00

rationally and i'd say care

10:02

a properly

10:03

and i got invited to

10:05

come down to george's

10:08

for a board meeting i

10:10

, this a reason why

10:13

why i was not given one

10:16

i was just oh well as some

10:18

transition issue so we need to talk

10:20

about serling i went

10:22

into our hotel room and we prayed

10:24

and we said we we

10:27

want to do things right and

10:29

if this is a time for us

10:31

to leave we would

10:33

tried to the compliant

10:35

with it

10:37

no we walked in and were

10:39

blindsided we were told her

10:41

you need to be gone by the next

10:44

board meeting and

10:46

, that was why the most painful

10:48

things i've ever been through because it

10:51

is by cited as i

10:53

was being heard by to two hundred

10:55

and twenty million people every

10:57

day day hundred

10:59

and sixty and i

11:02

our budget was a hundred and

11:05

forty six million dollars

11:07

a year i had

11:09

no great conflict

11:12

it , all the sudden sudden

11:15

the board said is time to go

11:18

and then we cried all the way home

11:21

don't you things i've never said publicly

11:24

before

11:25

and i'm not mad as anybody i

11:27

don't want try to hurt anybody should

11:31

, i'd been there thirty three years

11:34

as , of my baby and

11:36

away and

11:39

it , of the suddenly

11:41

was done and

11:43

i was asked said that board meeting

11:45

what you gonna do and i said well radios

11:48

my life i'll probably do more rail

11:51

and the next day as started

11:53

family talk i didn't

11:55

have anything i didn't

11:57

have have i didn't have a

11:59

staff i didn't never radio

12:01

studio and has had very

12:03

little

12:05

money i just went back to where i was

12:07

in nineteen seventy seventies started

12:09

over

12:11

and i have was known

12:13

anybody sir radio station

12:16

i just started from scratch and

12:18

the reason i did continue

12:22

is because the lord had his hand

12:24

in my back and

12:26

he said don't

12:28

even think about retiring

12:31

the job is not done a

12:33

family is still in great difficulty

12:36

and they're more that i want you to do

12:39

and the lord is blessed family talk

12:42

they , took off the way way

12:45

on his ama had taken off in nineteen

12:48

seventy nineteen and

12:50

so i'm and it and

12:53

i'm doing what doing

12:55

play cod call me to do and

12:58

so that's where i am but

13:01

when i look back on my life that

13:04

probably is the most painful

13:06

experience of off and

13:08

i think there's lot people gonna deify

13:11

what you just talked about that experience

13:13

that you've gone through want go back

13:15

to what you just mentioned though he that the pain

13:17

the ahead with focus

13:19

on family the the transition to

13:21

family talk and now let's

13:24

look at it from this perspective cause are some by listener

13:26

today who says i had that hey

13:28

wasn't as big deal is it wasn't

13:30

as public , what doctor

13:32

dobson just talked about but i had a kenneth

13:34

things happen me personally

13:36

relationships or relationships work or at

13:39

now here's the question how his

13:41

god then use that pain

13:43

that struggle that you went through

13:46

and , used it both on

13:48

the air and moving forward

13:50

with with family talk with your ministry

13:54

well any and anything

13:57

intense like that intense like experience

13:59

j

14:00

the issue and

14:02

, nord uses it it

14:04

is used to than my life in

14:07

in i've had the choice

14:10

of being publicly

14:12

angry and hurt by that and

14:15

to the vocal

14:17

about it and it chose to take

14:20

die road and

14:22

, thank the lord is blessed that i

14:25

think that they're the he has

14:27

said to me i saw

14:29

it in

14:31

it's okay have

14:34

you ever had moment like that when

14:36

you , think you feel

14:39

lords smile it's

14:42

not because you perfect is not

14:44

because you've done some magnificent

14:46

thing by , because

14:49

you say say heard in

14:51

my voice and

14:54

who did what did wanna do to do

14:57

in what is that to the

14:59

for hold them me

15:02

in i believe that has occurred

15:04

in my life i think there's a softening

15:06

and there's there's ,

15:08

a gentle spirit tears

15:10

that i may not have

15:12

had throughout my life life

15:15

have to let somebody let interpret

15:18

that but i think that's what my wife

15:20

shirley would tell what the main

15:23

reasons people know james dobson

15:25

the broader culture is the interview that

15:27

you did with ted bundy take

15:30

us back that what do you remember

15:32

well there's just so world of memory

15:34

so related to that there was

15:37

one , the most bizarre things

15:39

i've ever been through through

15:41

in fact i knew it was coming

15:44

at ted the had

15:46

a lawyer friend who

15:49

was not his lawyer but he was

15:51

was and he

15:53

came down and met with ted

15:56

i think about two hundred times

15:58

about the lord about his

16:01

, about the on the thing says

16:03

he had done which were reprehensible

16:07

you know they they think that he killed

16:09

in probably around hundred

16:11

women and ,

16:14

told a lawyer to call me in

16:17

this was this was two years before

16:20

and said that that once

16:22

the governor of

16:24

the state of florida gov

16:27

martinez gave ,

16:29

okay for his execution

16:31

because he was on death row for alone

16:33

time that he wanted to talk

16:35

to me and reason ted

16:37

wanted talk to me was because

16:39

he has now been aware

16:41

of my service on the attorney

16:44

general's commission unfamiliar feet feet

16:47

the he wanted

16:49

to know more wanted to tell

16:51

his tell because

16:53

see cel said that

16:55

there there was but now you're fi that

16:58

really got him in got him

17:00

started in ten sado

17:02

masochism sado he

17:04

found magazines

17:06

added dump when he was thirteen

17:08

years old and

17:11

, is one those experiences

17:13

where it's progress even addictive

17:16

and that's really what

17:18

got into him and he wanted to tell everybody

17:20

because when i was in the attorney

17:23

general's commission though we've

17:25

ended would say two thousand page

17:27

report and he read it

17:29

all then

17:30

he saw himself in their twenties

17:33

sell to an obligation this may be

17:35

self serving on his car results

17:37

an obligation to warn

17:40

parents about spanner

17:42

your feet and don't let the kids

17:44

get into it because it never

17:46

ends thin ,

17:48

it after two years we got

17:51

the phone call and i went

17:53

down to florida

17:55

state prison there were three

17:57

hundred members of the press

18:00

there with the all

18:02

on the tv equipment

18:04

nary thing in there are blink dishes

18:07

and they ah we're

18:09

waiting for something they

18:12

wanted to interview bundy

18:14

and he wouldn't talk to them then

18:16

i was the only one he would talk to him

18:18

when when i walked out of that

18:20

prison they have it was ten o'clock

18:22

at night they had strobe lights

18:25

on hand about sixty

18:27

microphones the way they do

18:29

in washington and

18:32

as it was bizarre

18:34

i'm telling you telling hid

18:37

did have did have impact on

18:39

me and when it was over

18:42

i wept like a baby i

18:44

can tell you

18:46

amid a with the remaining moments here

18:48

of god know was ever somebody wanted

18:50

to interview

18:52

wouldn't come on or didn't

18:55

i remember the pete maravich you're playing basketball

18:57

with him and you're gonna record with them and

18:59

that didn't get get to happen you you

19:01

had conversations with him at other times

19:03

but was there ever a person that you thought our

19:07

, get that person in studio talk with

19:09

with to france's schaefer

19:12

is one on them i really

19:14

wanted to interview francis

19:16

shave francis and now he

19:18

was on his hero of mine we were talking

19:20

about heroes earlier nine

19:22

france's save for france's philosopher

19:25

pie wouldn't did he have an influence on

19:27

me and regarding the sanctity

19:30

of life the hey on

19:33

just the for the understanding

19:35

of who christ is in of have

19:37

many things and

19:40

he was living in

19:42

santa barbara in i living

19:44

living santa barbara angeles and

19:47

i was invited

19:49

to come to santa barbara an interview

19:51

him

19:53

and it was a very busy saturday

19:56

for me and

19:58

i didn't go

20:00

and he'd died right after

20:02

that i , the opportunity

20:05

to interview one

20:07

of the great man of

20:09

our day

20:11

am i didn't get it done and

20:13

i've always regretted it neither

20:16

, is billy graham where i invited

20:18

him several times to come in i

20:21

don't regret

20:24

him not going because he has

20:26

a person on his life and

20:28

he had work to do do

20:30

he just never found the found

20:33

to be on my programmer

20:35

and let me and there but

20:38

i would love to have interviewed him

20:41

my as has great love and respect for

20:43

him and , to told

20:45

him that i think he knows it cause

20:47

everybody else is told him that too

20:51

well i think they're lol listeners who if we

20:53

in life today doctor would say the same thing

20:55

to you thank you for your input

20:57

when i had this toddler who

20:59

is scream in org gone through

21:01

colleague or a teenager as

21:04

didn't know how to love well or

21:06

the that grandchild that you know all

21:08

those different things things that you've talked about

21:10

through the years they'd say but

21:12

, arm around you and say the same saying thanks for

21:14

your faithfulness for your character

21:17

for doing what god has told you told

21:19

do for the warmth of

21:21

your voice on the radio that still come

21:23

in through and can't thank

21:25

you enough for for i still have bushel max

21:27

questioned the asquith will have to and

21:29

right there thanks for doing this for stood

21:32

again chris

21:41

you been listening to family

21:43

talk on your construct template

21:46

and that was the conclusion of

21:48

very special to part interview featuring

21:50

our host doctor james dobson

21:52

now and duct dobson doesn't usually

21:55

take the chair of the interview we

21:57

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21:59

as and few questions about as year

22:01

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