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what just happened with Silicon Valley Bank. The
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main difference is that the federal deposit
1:03
insurance corporation, the FDIC,
1:06
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1:08
the Silicon Valley Bank collapse. And so
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they swooped in, they essentially set up
1:13
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And so the FDIC was able
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to line up an existing bank to buy
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the failing bank in that case. But
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bank takeover.
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account of what happened when
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the FDIC took over the
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Long before most of the Bank of Clark County employees
3:06
knew their bank was dead, the FDIC was
3:08
planning its demise. They'd been having
3:10
meetings, contacting other banks in the region, trying
3:13
to find one that would take over the Bank of Clark County's
3:15
assets after it failed. All
3:17
of these negotiations were top secret.
3:20
And then the time came. Thursday, January 15,
3:22
2009, the operation begins.
3:25
80 FDIC agents pull into Vancouver,
3:28
Washington. Their rental cars are generic,
3:30
their arrival time staggered. One
3:32
by one, the agents check into the hotel, each
3:35
quietly offering a fake name to the guy
3:37
at the desk.
3:39
9 PM. The FDIC calls the CEO
3:41
of another bank nearby, Umqua Bank.
3:44
Your bank, they tell him, has been selected to take
3:46
over the bank of Clark County. You can't
3:48
tell anyone. Come to a meeting tomorrow
3:51
at noon, the FDIC will tell you everything you need
3:53
to know.
3:54
And so, Friday morning, the Bank
3:56
of Clark County employees get up, go to work,
3:58
turn on the lights, and go about their day. and
4:00
Rick Carey, a vice president from Umpqua
4:02
Bank, sits down with the FDIC
4:05
and begins to plan.
4:07
We actually met with the FDIC
4:09
beginning at about 1230 on Friday, and
4:12
they were in a hotel under
4:15
a different name. You
4:17
know, we made sure that there
4:19
was no one from outside of our
4:21
two organizations there.
4:23
My name is Todd Zalk, Bank
4:25
of Clark County, the best community
4:27
business bank because we've changed
4:29
the game in business banking and
4:32
we were winning. Often
4:35
when I would go to a networking meeting or
4:37
event, I would introduce myself that way.
4:40
Todd Zulk is what you call a team
4:42
player, total bank loyalist
4:44
to the end. Beyond the end.
4:46
Four weeks after the failure, Todd's
4:49
still wearing his Bank of Clark County name tag,
4:51
still passing out his bank business cards. always
4:54
with a warm handshake, constant eye contact,
4:56
inserting your name whenever possible.
4:59
Friday, as Rick carries Nick into the nondescript
5:02
FDIC secret location, Todd
5:04
was playing for the team.
5:06
Most of the day I had spent out meeting
5:08
with businesses. I had a couple networking events,
5:11
and then I came back to the bank
5:13
and...
5:13
So you were still bringing business in that
5:15
Friday? I actually was. I
5:18
had people that wanted to open accounts. In fact,
5:20
in the fourth quarter, I opened over 55 accounts
5:24
for Bank of Clark County.
5:25
Todd and his coworkers had no idea
5:27
the bank was about to be taken over. He
5:29
knew they were going through a rough time. Just last
5:32
week, the CEO had called the staff meeting about it. But
5:34
the CEO was clear, things were under control.
5:37
He used this analogy that we were the ship,
5:39
you know, and we've gone through a storm and that
5:41
we were, you know, a little bit tattered, but
5:44
we were still weathering it well and that we
5:48
maybe were taking on a little bit of water and
5:50
we were looking for someone to maybe buy the
5:52
bank and had a few buyers
5:55
that were very interested and within
5:57
the next 60 We should know
5:59
if
6:00
who the new face of
6:02
the bank would be. So
6:04
that's what I had thought. Many,
6:06
many Bank of Clark County employees told me about
6:09
the SHIP meeting. Mostly it made sense
6:11
to them.
6:12
The CEO said they were doing okay, they were doing okay.
6:15
But in fact, things have been changing at the bank
6:17
since 2005. That's when they
6:19
went big into commercial and real estate loans.
6:21
They were a young bank. They felt they had to be aggressive.
6:24
And sometimes that meant making loans other banks
6:27
wouldn't have made.
6:28
loans that ended up killing them. Washington
6:31
state regulators audit every bank several times
6:33
a year, and they noted the Bank of Clark
6:35
County's declining health. Its
6:37
capital reserves were getting low. So
6:40
low, the bank was in danger of not being able to cover
6:42
its debts and obligations. And
6:44
then, you know this story, housing prices
6:46
dropped, developers couldn't make payments.
6:48
The story finally ends Friday,
6:51
January 16th,
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2 FDIC agents and a Washington
6:56
State regulator enter the Bank of Clark
6:58
County, casual, head straight for the CEO's
7:01
office. There, behind closed
7:03
doors, they deliver the news.
7:05
They tell him his bank is under-capitalized. It
7:08
has failed. 5.03 PM. An
7:10
agent positioned by the CEO's office door
7:13
types this news into a blackberry. It's
7:15
received by everyone on the FDIC takeover
7:17
team.
7:18
5.05 PM. FDIC
7:20
agents begin closing in on the bank. A
7:23
few are already inside, quietly and discreetly
7:25
securing the cash and the vaults. Todd
7:28
Zulk, oblivious to all this, heads back into
7:30
the office after a long day of work.
7:33
I could tell that the mood at the bank seemed
7:35
odd. And I thought, well,
7:37
hmm, I wonder if they found a buyer
7:40
and kind of people have heard because I was gone
7:42
most of the day. And so I went
7:44
in and asked and they
7:46
said that There
7:49
was going to be a meeting at six o'clock
7:51
and there might be an announcement as to
7:53
who the buyer might be here or what
7:55
that would look like.
7:57
Todd hung around said to some customers.
8:00
did some banking. By this time
8:02
it was quarter to six and I went
8:04
up to someone that was an
8:07
executive or senior vice
8:09
president of the bank and I said how are you doing
8:11
and they said oh I'm doing all right and I could tell
8:14
something was going on and they didn't
8:15
want to say and we looked across to the other
8:17
side of the bank and there was two
8:19
employees adjusting pictures
8:23
on the wall and he looked
8:25
over at that and I saw his gaze go
8:27
over to the wall and so I looked over at the wall
8:29
and he kind of laughed and he said, wow,
8:33
he says that reminds me of adjusting
8:35
the chairs on the Titanic before it sank.
8:38
And that really told me something
8:41
was going down. Well
8:42
then, we hit,
8:44
it was probably very close, just a minute
8:47
or two after six o'clock and
8:49
Mike Worthy, our CEO, came out
8:51
and he stood up and said,
8:54
said,
8:54
well, I've used the
8:56
analogy that we were a ship
8:59
that was taken on some water and we
9:01
needed to pull up next to a bigger ship
9:03
and see if they wouldn't take us on in
9:05
our crew. And we thought we
9:07
had a few buyers for that, but now
9:10
the biggest ship that sails the seas
9:12
has come alongside us and
9:15
they are going to be taking us over and that
9:18
is essentially
9:18
the federal government. I would
9:20
like to introduce the
9:23
state of Washington regulators.
9:25
And he sat down and
9:28
the state of Washington stood up and said,
9:30
we are now taking possession of the
9:33
bank of all of its assets.
9:36
And we
9:36
are turning them over to
9:38
the receivership of the FDIC.
9:42
6.03 PM,
9:43
down the street from the bank where he's been told by the
9:45
FDIC to wait in his car. Rick
9:47
Carey with Umpqua Bank, here's his phone
9:50
vibrate.
9:51
At that point in time, a
9:53
signal was given to myself
9:55
and basically... What kind of a signal? It
9:58
was an email.
9:58
to the message. when you got it
10:00
on your Blackberry. Oh, just, uh, it's time.
10:04
It's time. Yeah, it's time. Come in.
10:08
605. Rick gets out of the car and starts walking toward
10:10
the bank.
10:11
Inside, a woman from the FDIC takes
10:13
the stage. She said within the next 10
10:15
minutes, there will be 80
10:17
FDIC employees coming
10:19
into the bank. And I looked
10:21
out there, and it was dark, so I couldn't really
10:23
see. And then all
10:26
these people, and mostly
10:28
in suits and professional clothing with
10:31
attorney-type briefcases, started
10:33
entering the bank, just flooding
10:36
into the bank.
10:37
And I was so awestruck
10:39
at them coming in, and so many of them
10:41
coming into the bank, that I turned around
10:43
and looked over there and just
10:46
kept watching them, and they just continued to come.
10:49
I mean, 80? I mean, our bank had
10:51
like 100 employees,
10:53
And at this time it was dark outside
10:54
and a flash flashed
10:58
out in the parking lot. The
11:00
flash was the Columbia newspaper taking
11:02
a picture for Saturday
11:05
morning's front page news that
11:07
the bank had failed.
11:09
All of this happened, Hana, in just a
11:11
matter of minutes. So things are
11:14
going through my mind like I just lost
11:17
almost $25,000 worth of stock I bought four months ago bank
11:21
of Clark County in my bank. I mean
11:22
I'm investing in my bank and most of the
11:25
employees were shareholders and so for
11:28
me there was a sense of gosh
11:30
I think I just lost all my stock and
11:34
I looked around the bank I saw some people crying
11:36
I saw some
11:37
people with
11:40
just a white face blank
11:42
stare on their face just in
11:45
shock some people had their face on their
11:47
hand on their face and and
11:49
just were like, I can't believe this,
11:51
like, oh my gosh. After
11:55
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Six-ten pm, Rick Carey from UMCWA
13:36
Bank is introduced to the confused
13:38
employees of the bank he now owns.
13:41
They have a whole bunch of questions running through their heads. First
13:43
among them, do we get to keep our jobs?
13:46
Rick can't answer that. UMCWA will only
13:48
need about a third of the Clark County staff, the
13:50
people who actually deal with customers in the branches.
13:53
the support staff and administration will be let go.
13:55
But
13:56
it's too soon to let each person know whether
13:58
he or she has a job. Rick
14:00
is put in charge of supervising a full-on,
14:03
manual hand count of all the bank's
14:05
cash. A couple of his staff grab
14:07
the cash and begin to count. The
14:09
Bank of Clark County people watch AMQA.
14:12
The FDIC watches them both.
14:14
This takes three hours. Meanwhile,
14:17
Bank of Clark County staff come up to Rick to introduce
14:19
themselves. Tell him how important they are
14:21
at the bank. They're
14:22
worried for their jobs. And Rick
14:24
has other things on his mind. He bought
14:26
the bank from the FDIC for a pretty good price,
14:29
He only has to take the good parts, the insured
14:31
deposits and the actual branch buildings.
14:33
The FDIC will keep all the bad stuff, the problem
14:36
loans. But there's still a lot to
14:38
think about.
14:38
You know, I have to be open in three
14:40
days. What do I want that store
14:43
to look like? I remember
14:45
that one of the first things we did that
14:48
evening was contact their plants provider
14:51
and make sure that they were arranged to have 25
14:55
large plants taken out of the, you
14:57
know, out of the facility. We have a very
15:00
clean operating environment at Umpqua,
15:02
and plants aren't part of our MO,
15:05
and so those were to be removed immediately.
15:09
We were looking at signage, so I basically
15:12
was making a note of what signs that
15:15
we needed to change, replace,
15:17
how quickly we wanted to do that. We wanted to
15:19
make it look like Umpqua as quickly as
15:22
possible.
15:23
Meanwhile, FDIC agents have already secured
15:25
the vaults and the cache. They've grabbed a couple hard
15:27
drives. Now they need to inventory
15:30
the entire bank. Every account
15:32
needs to be transferred to UMCWA. The bank
15:34
has to open its doors Tuesday morning. Monday
15:36
was Martin Luther King Day, the bank holiday. To
15:39
get all this done, the FDIC needs the
15:41
Bank of Clark County staff to help them, to show them
15:43
where the files are, who the customers are,
15:46
how to get to the bathroom. And so
15:48
at 6.15 p.m., the FDIC makes
15:50
an announcement. We need y'all to sign
15:52
in on this sheet of paper, everyone. As of right
15:54
now, for the weekend, you're all temporary employees
15:57
of the FDIC.
15:59
We're going to need you to stay late. tonight, work through the
16:01
weekend, you will be paid for your time.
16:03
We'll feed you. We need your help.
16:05
Ken Moody was vice president of information
16:08
systems at the bank of Clark County.
16:10
You know, again, most of us were planning on leading at the end of the
16:12
day. And so, you know, after that
16:14
announcement was made, we had phone calls
16:16
to make, you know, call our families. Um,
16:20
my daughter, uh, had a seventh
16:25
birthday that we were going to go to. Pick
16:28
your time. Sorry, I
16:31
didn't anticipate being this emotional about
16:33
it. Kinda silly.
16:36
6.20 p.m., agents take over
16:38
offices, storage rooms, hallways, any
16:40
space available. They tape handmade
16:42
signs to the doors, written on eight and a half by 11
16:45
sheets of printer paper, saying things like
16:47
audit, security, investigations.
16:50
It's a little chaotic. The FDIC moves
16:53
room to room. They go through files,
16:55
transfer accounts. They change the website.
16:57
They check the safe deposit boxes,
16:59
make sure everything that's supposed to be in there is
17:02
in there.
17:02
They go through desk drawers. They toss out bank
17:05
letterhead. Once agents have scanned
17:07
a room for all critical information, they
17:09
place a green dot on its door frame.
17:12
Then they take all that paperwork, all the hard
17:14
drives, all the files, and the FDIC has to reconstruct
17:17
the bank's entire balance sheet. It
17:19
has to know what it's selling to UMCQA, what's actually there.
17:22
Any account with a balance up to $250,000 is fully insured by the FDIC.
17:28
If the bank doesn't have the money to cover the balance, the
17:30
government will pay it out.
17:32
But some people have more than $250,000 and there
17:34
are business accounts and loans and it gets complicated.
17:37
Some is covered, some is not.
17:39
The FDIC now sorts all that out.
17:41
Things started happening very quickly and
17:44
with what seemed to be a lot of precision.
17:48
6.25pm in the IT department, three
17:50
agents approach Ken Moody, the IT guy.
17:53
They hand him a thumb drive. Please plug
17:55
this in, they say.
17:56
It has all the software to change your computer systems
17:59
over to...
18:00
That was, you know,
18:02
kind of a fascinating part about it. So it was almost like,
18:04
you know, on one hand, it's very sad. You have
18:06
the death of a loved one. But at the same time,
18:09
it was like watching an autopsy
18:12
being performed by a really skillful surgeon. They
18:14
just came in and just sliced and diced
18:16
and, you know, broke the bank up into
18:18
different pieces and threw them into different buckets
18:21
and did it with great efficiency.
18:23
An autopsy of the work that you've been doing? Yeah, an autopsy
18:26
of everything that we've been creating over the last 10 years.
18:29
At the Bank of Clark County, everyone I talked to
18:31
said this one thing about the FDIC that stuck
18:33
with me. Something you don't often hear
18:36
about a government agency, that
18:38
it did a really good job, that the agents
18:40
were kind, courteous, and efficient.
18:42
In fact, everything is ordered, structured,
18:45
everything, even how and when to grieve.
18:48
Here's Lisa Stapleton. She was an assistant loan
18:50
officer with the bank. So many
18:52
of the people who came in from the FDIC
18:56
got to where they were because
18:58
they were part of a bank that failed. And
19:00
they were all like, you know what, we've been where
19:02
you are and we
19:05
understand and it's
19:08
going to be fine. You know, so they were really
19:11
nice.
19:12
The Bank of Clark County had 100 employees and assets
19:14
of $446 million, which if you're not
19:19
used to bank numbers is a really small bank.
19:21
But
19:21
it took 80 FDIC agents,
19:24
about 50 of Clark County employees and 100
19:26
UMCW employees working around the clock
19:29
for three days to take it over and
19:31
have it reopened for business.
19:35
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Life and Serial and Formerly Planet Money.
19:40
This episode originally aired in March 2009
19:43
on This American Life from WBEZ
19:46
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19:49
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